The Ultimate M1/M2 Mac Buying Guide for Music Production: M2 vs M2 Pro vs M2 Max vs M2 Ultra

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • With Apple Silicon chips, you don't always get the performance you paid for depending on the DAW you use. In this video, I will be analyzing all the M1- and M2-series chips (M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Ultra, M2, M2 Pro, M2 Max, and M2 Ultra) and discussing which Mac computer might be the best for you for music production, audio production, audio engineering, recording or writing music. The video includes a test that shows how Logic Pro X, Pro Tools, Steinberg Cubase, REAPER and Ableton Live perform very differently on the same chip.
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    ⏰ Timestamps:
    00:00 Start
    00:29 Video Overview
    01:02 Bechmarks & Tests Videos
    01:15 Disclaimer
    01:36 M1- & M2-Series Chips: Are 2nd Gen Chips Better?
    02:12 Base M1 Chip vs Base M2 Chip
    02:51 Power of M2: Running My Entire Studio on an M2 MacBook Air
    03:17 Why the Base M1 Chip Is Better Than the Base M2 Chip
    04:04 M1 vs M2 CPU Cores Comparison
    04:54 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro: Not What You Might Expect
    05:46 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): DAW Performance
    06:45 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): REAPER
    07:16 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): Cubase
    08:00 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): Pro Tools
    08:42 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): Logic Pro X
    09:10 M1 Pro vs M2 Pro (10c): Ableton Live
    09:48 Your Primary DAW Is an Important Factor to Consider When Choosing a Chip
    10:56 10-Core M2 Pro vs 12-Core M2 Pro: Which One to Get?
    11:27 M1 Max & M1 Ultra vs M2 Max vs M2 Ultra
    11:46 M1 Max & M2 Max: Improvements Only for Video/Graphics Work
    12:38 M2 Max Is a Better Deal Than M2 Pro in This One Scenario
    13:10 M1 Ultra vs M2 Ultra
    14:46 Choosing the Right Amount of RAM
    15:12 Mac Users: Look at Memory PRESSURE Instead of Messory Used
    15:55 MacOS Tells You if You Need More RAM
    16:24 Choosing the Right Amount of SSD Storage
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  • @JamesZhan
    @JamesZhan  6 месяцев назад +5

    NEW VIDEO ➡ The Problem with M3 Pro MacBook Pro for Music Production | M3 Pro vs M2 Pro vs M1 Pro ruclips.net/video/FSqX4bt9to4/видео.htmlsi=ZCU8BG-toWwNcJLu

    • @Mondo-ot6ec
      @Mondo-ot6ec 21 день назад

      Thanks James, these have been very helpful I'm about to check this one out. Have you made one for the Mchip with Ableton 12?

  • @baldrust
    @baldrust 9 месяцев назад +208

    Definitely confirms what I suspected all along. Our challenge as musicians is that most of the Mac reviews are created by video-oriented creators who focus on rendering tests. Usually the only way they acknowledge audio is by saying the total number of tracks that can run, without really qualifying what’s on those tracks. This is a great explanation of how a DAW needs computing resources and does away with the hype about M2 being “better” than M1 for our use. The way I understand it, M2 focused on more significantly improving power efficiency with some performance gain. Particularly for desktop users, that’s pretty much a non-issue regardless of using M1 or M2. James, thank you so much for making this video and putting a few false perceptions to rest.

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  9 месяцев назад +35

      Glad you like the video!
      For tech review channels, it makes sense to do video-oriented tests because video tasks are (generally speaking) much more CPU-intensive than audio tasks.
      Video tasks allow reviewers to test not only the CPU performance but also the GPU performance, the media engines, and the SSD speed. And these Apple Silicon chips are pretty video-focused in general.
      These audio tests I've been doing on my channel wouldn't be a good way to give people a *general* idea of what these chips can do, but they have proven to be very helpful to people who work with audio a lot. That's why very few people do audio tests on YT and that's why I do them!

    • @rob_fabre
      @rob_fabre 3 месяца назад +4

      @@JamesZhan Where can I find/purchase a Macbook Pro 14in with the M1 or M2 and 16GB RAM? I can only find refurbished... They dont have them new... :(. What do you recommend? The only option seems to buy the latest but dont want to over pay. THANKS

    • @ImOzify
      @ImOzify 2 месяца назад

      @@rob_fabreeBay. Do thorough research and make sure you buy from a REPUTABLE seller, meaning 99% or higher positive reviews.

  • @LIFELOVER715
    @LIFELOVER715 9 месяцев назад +115

    You deserve an award for your presentation. The amount of information, with excellent articulation is worthy of great admiration & appreciation.

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  9 месяцев назад +8

      Wow, thank you so much for your kind words!

  • @Siri_Duffa
    @Siri_Duffa 9 месяцев назад +135

    This is excellent. Your buying guides for musicians/producers/engineers are the best I've seen on youtube. Great attention to detail. Thank you.

  • @jameslast3192
    @jameslast3192 9 месяцев назад +12

    Thanks for keeping it plain , concise and simple! Great guide.

  • @newbreednet
    @newbreednet 9 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent video -- I thought I knew the differences quite well, yet you still taught me a few new things!

  • @jesseemmoth5482
    @jesseemmoth5482 7 месяцев назад +1

    Love this video man! Nice to see you really know what you’re talking about and give us viewers examples and stuff. Great!

  • @SpectacleMusic
    @SpectacleMusic 8 месяцев назад +11

    As a die-hard Apple user and mixing engineer, I have held out on upgrading my 2015 MacBook Pro with 16 GB RAM. Mainly because of the ports that were not included throughout the reign of the M1 chip. I can finally say that the Mac mini would be a substantial upgrade. And this video really helped thank you.

    • @jimi272
      @jimi272 2 месяца назад +1

      Never change a running system. What did you end up doing?

  • @ulteriorreignsupreme
    @ulteriorreignsupreme 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic overview, just what I needed.

  • @ShogunxCAL
    @ShogunxCAL 7 месяцев назад +1

    Everything is clean about this man. Video quality on point. Comparisons 🔥 Well done sir well done.

  • @TokarTK
    @TokarTK 8 дней назад

    Thank you for this comparison, nice work!

  • @cd-er3fb
    @cd-er3fb 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video! This is a perfect break down thank you! Cant wait to see if you get a chance to get your hands on the M3s

  • @colm131
    @colm131 8 месяцев назад

    Brilliant video, James. Thanks for posting.

  • @rouje44
    @rouje44 6 месяцев назад

    The EXACT video i was looking for! thank you James!!!

  • @Zaleskee
    @Zaleskee 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you James, this was an amazing detailed guide!.

  • @BAND-MAID-USA
    @BAND-MAID-USA 7 месяцев назад

    One of the best tech videos I’ve ever seen. Very valuable info. Thank you so much.

  • @marksteinemann4063
    @marksteinemann4063 4 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the Video. This was super helpful for making a informed choice.

  • @eoinodunlaing4391
    @eoinodunlaing4391 9 месяцев назад +1

    An excellent and extremely useful presentation -thank you!

  • @svenpoppe9509
    @svenpoppe9509 3 месяца назад

    Thanks heaps for the help clarifying amongst all that mumbo jumbo tech talk. I start to know where to head up on my Rec Studio upgrade + DAW , etc.. Very helpful! Thanks.

  • @SiddharthaNaithani
    @SiddharthaNaithani 8 месяцев назад +1

    outstanding analysis, really helpful!

  • @mento6
    @mento6 6 месяцев назад

    Awesome super informative vid. Thanks James!

  • @EastLaneDonte
    @EastLaneDonte 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this video! I've been looking for one specifically for music for a while!

  • @noeysun8780
    @noeysun8780 2 месяца назад +1

    I haven't "liked" a video in a long time but...I'm really impressed with your presentation, how direct it is, and how informational it is. Thank you for putting this together.
    I even hit the subscribe button, which I never do when RUclipsrs tell me to.

  • @SH-jv5uf
    @SH-jv5uf 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for this helpful explanation.

  • @shred6strings
    @shred6strings 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent. Thank you, James.

  • @revp01
    @revp01 9 месяцев назад +2

    As always with your videos: Excellent analysis. Extremely helpful. Confirms most of my thoughts on this subject.
    I’m a Reaper user on Mac M2. The M2 MacBook Pro w/32GB RAM is beyond amazing and well worth the purchase.

  • @powertaitai
    @powertaitai 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much helping me to get more details. Cheers

  • @sarinsahil
    @sarinsahil 5 месяцев назад +3

    You my friend are bringing so much value to the world of musicians right now! Thank you :)

  • @CharlieRobbins
    @CharlieRobbins 9 месяцев назад

    Great video! Thanks! 🤘🏻

  • @gypsymothgillis3537
    @gypsymothgillis3537 3 месяца назад

    Thank you 😊 this video explained 100% exactly what i was looking for .

  • @HarleyBob957
    @HarleyBob957 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent buying guide. I'm actually getting ready to upgrade my Mac mini to the Mac studio, within the next couple of days and your video timing was perfect for the questions I have been asking myself. Thanks.

    • @JuriKet
      @JuriKet 6 месяцев назад

      I'm considering buying the Mac Studio as well, comming from an MBP Intel. Which one did you buy and how does it perform?

  • @angelinek_
    @angelinek_ 9 месяцев назад +2

    Just wanted to say thank you for this comprehensive video with clear breakdowns of your analyses! Was mildly stressing over this decision and your video has been a lot of help for me!! Really appreciate it!!!

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad you found it helpful! :)

  • @masterpref84
    @masterpref84 9 месяцев назад

    This was super excellent, you really did your home work

  • @technosoulman
    @technosoulman 22 дня назад

    Super useful information shared - thank you!

  • @julianmoss581
    @julianmoss581 6 месяцев назад

    thanks a tonne man, really appreciate you doing this!

  • @antoinesry7906
    @antoinesry7906 8 месяцев назад +1

    Man I've never seen someone paying attention to details and to what we need precisely like this, already subscribed and the video is still on , fantastic job on this one thank you so much for this

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  8 месяцев назад +1

      Wow thank you so much for your kind words!

  • @donteno
    @donteno 3 месяца назад

    Precious work ! Thank you so much. Clear and just detailed enough. :)

  • @MOBOfficial7
    @MOBOfficial7 9 месяцев назад

    I been waiting for this vdo for months. Appreciate it man❤🙏🏾

  • @SylvanWilliams
    @SylvanWilliams 7 месяцев назад +16

    I had no idea about the E and P core utilisation differences in each DAW. you sir are a gentleman and a scholar! Very helpful.

  • @kingslaphappy1533
    @kingslaphappy1533 7 месяцев назад

    I liked your presentation, clear and concise.👍

  • @Agga1904
    @Agga1904 7 месяцев назад

    Exactly what I was looking for! Perfect video - subscribed 🤝🏼

  • @benadgatemusic
    @benadgatemusic 3 месяца назад

    thank you so much for this video! i’m shopping for a new computer for the first time in 13 years and this helped me narrow down between the imac, mac mini and studio.

    • @paulsimpson7040
      @paulsimpson7040 Месяц назад

      I am in the same boat. What will you buy?

  • @mariovaliquette5310
    @mariovaliquette5310 5 месяцев назад

    Thx James for your time and commitment
    👍
    I’m subscribing 😋

  • @DJMarcusGrant
    @DJMarcusGrant 4 месяца назад

    Can I just say, you are an absolute legend with all of your in depth content! You're the only RUclipsr who goes so in depth with your comparisons and everything to do with music production.
    I have a base Model M1 (non max or pro) which I use for Open Format DJing paired with my controller but am looking to have a completely separate MacBook for music production and you've definitely set me on the right path of going for an Apple Refurbished M1 Pro MacBook Pro seeing as I will be plugging in to multiple monitors when at my desk at home.
    Thank you so much for your work!

  • @toonesh
    @toonesh 8 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you very much James for this great video, I learned a lot thanks to you, a superb source of information!!! I acquired a Mac mini 3.2Ghz i7 64 Gb RAM and 1Tera SSD 2.5 years ago and my CPU is quickly in the red in my mixing or even production sessions (especially a latency problem when recording songs). that there are a lot of avenues...) in short, I am more enlightened on the type of processor (although I wonder if the graphics card does not also have a role to play on all the spectrum visualization plugins ( Flux Analyzer, ADPTR audio etc....) but according to your advice I don't really fit into the boxes announced, but rather as an (almost) advanced producer AND Mixer (production is my job but I mix my productions before send them to the master then...) and switch back to windows I admit that makes me very very afraid 😅

  • @UnluckyMinority
    @UnluckyMinority 4 месяца назад

    This was really helpful! Thank you!

  • @darodrisc
    @darodrisc 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hey James, excellent video, thank you. Have you any thoughts on the M3 chips?

  • @830jkl
    @830jkl 21 день назад

    This was so awesome! Thank you for sharing what seemingly no one else has, info on actual music production. I subscribed just because of this video. 🎹♥️

  • @En_Diel
    @En_Diel Месяц назад

    Your videos are very detailed, thank you for the info bro

  • @MD-wf5fm
    @MD-wf5fm 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks! That was really helpful

  • @faautobahna9416
    @faautobahna9416 9 месяцев назад

    Excellent analysis, thanks.

  • @servHis221
    @servHis221 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for the video. Leaving this here for my future self. Get the M1 10-core Macbook Pro

  • @hankfowler8194
    @hankfowler8194 9 месяцев назад

    This is a very informative video. I was thinking of buying a new Macbookair M2 but my M1 air is fine according to you. You saved me some money. Thanks

  • @anaroquea
    @anaroquea 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you very much for this video, it helped me a lot! I would love to know your opinion about the M3 line of chips and the new RAM size configurations. One more time, thanks for this!

  • @juhokettunen8245
    @juhokettunen8245 2 месяца назад

    Excellent, excellent video. Informative content, and professional presentation.

  • @studiotakt3865
    @studiotakt3865 5 месяцев назад

    very nice, thanks for the in depth info!

  • @DangerousPOSSE
    @DangerousPOSSE 5 месяцев назад

    Fantastic video!! Thank you bro

  • @torrecalba
    @torrecalba 9 месяцев назад

    What a great video and analisys. I'd take note of all your recommendations! Thanks a lot an cheers from Italy James

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  9 месяцев назад +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @bahalospanty
    @bahalospanty 9 месяцев назад

    Hey @Jameszhan Great Video! can you let us know which one of these works best for DJ Programs such as Serato? Maybe one for the tractor and virtual dj programs?

  • @nickpmusic
    @nickpmusic 9 месяцев назад

    Best analysis thanks for your insight

  • @mathisellis
    @mathisellis 7 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic video! What is the best scenario if you do a lot of mixing AND use a lot of plugins and sample libraries? Is a M1 Pro typically enough? And is increasing the memory make a significant difference? Thanks!

  • @jeromeclatot1769
    @jeromeclatot1769 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much this is excellent. For someone who does not know much about computers this is amazing.

  • @bubblegummusic6285
    @bubblegummusic6285 9 месяцев назад

    Super great video man!! Thanx a lot!! 🙏✌️

  • @Bourbosaurus
    @Bourbosaurus 10 дней назад

    I don’t normally comment, but fantastic video. One of the best I’ve ever seen on RUclips in general 😂 straight to the point with complete clarity.

  • @AaronPetrini
    @AaronPetrini 19 дней назад

    This video should get a gold medal. Thanks so much!

  • @malteadotas4
    @malteadotas4 9 месяцев назад +20

    RUclips is full of redundant videos about the m1 and m2 comparisons and recommendations, but THIS video is actually super informative and really eye opening. Excellent job, my man. You have a new subscriber. 👍👍

    • @JamesZhan
      @JamesZhan  9 месяцев назад

      Really appreciate your kind words! I think it’s good to have many people reviewing the same products, as everyone’s perspective and experience are different ☺️

  • @livefromthepsy-op1170
    @livefromthepsy-op1170 5 месяцев назад

    Classy and clean video. I'm subscribed.

  • @Chrissyduds
    @Chrissyduds 2 месяца назад +2

    That was awesome ! I’m an Apple employee and talk about stuff like this often and you did a great job helping me break stuff down better and going to share this video with my team so they understand what the chips are all about for musicians vs video editors

  • @HarleyBob957
    @HarleyBob957 8 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the information, much appreciated. I just bought the Mac mini, m2 pro, 1 tb, 32 g..love it. I use Studio One as my DAW. When recording or mixing, everything is snappy, no spinning beach balls. I upgraded from a 2018 Mac mini, 256 tb, 16g. I used a lot of external ssd's. Sometimes, depending on my mix, I would be maxing out the Mac mini, I'd see beachballs spinning, a couple of times I had a freeze. I thought about going with the Mac Studio, but I really like the mini, it's footprint, just works for me. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

  • @mosys5838
    @mosys5838 6 месяцев назад

    THank you so much for this video!

  • @paulpaul00
    @paulpaul00 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks! Perfect information!

  • @pdac86
    @pdac86 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hats of for you! This is a amazing and well structured guide! I know now that I will probably buy a refurbished M1 Pro MacBook Pro for hopefully a lot less then the price of a new M2 pro!

  • @thevoiceofgrandmother
    @thevoiceofgrandmother 7 месяцев назад

    thanks so much for this video James! saved me a lot of time :)

  • @furiobisotti8150
    @furiobisotti8150 9 месяцев назад +1

    Extremely well done vid. Using your hints I am going for an M1pro solution, with 32 giga ram and 2 TB SSD. I play keyboards live fully software. Currently using an M1 Macbookpro, first edition

  • @vincent33195
    @vincent33195 7 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for such a great video. I had no idea how the DAWs utilize the silicon chips, and the differences between power vs. efficiency. I’m surprised that Logic, of all the DAWs, doesn’t fully utilize the silicon chips. Any thoughts on that?

  • @kynomatix
    @kynomatix 8 месяцев назад

    Great video! I hope sometime you do one comparing bitwig too, I really want to see how it stacks up for CPU optimization

  • @MikeLindup42
    @MikeLindup42 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great analysis, thanks James. Weight is a major consideration when thinking about a MacBook upgrade, as my backpack virtually doubles in weight with my 2017 MBP, so I’m looking at an Air. I do some video editing as well as music production, and I like to think a new laptop will last 5-6 years.

  • @nathanvanderhoof7124
    @nathanvanderhoof7124 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow so amazing- you saving me hundreds of dollars on that max vs pro chip part. 🙏🙏🙏😊

  • @EduardoMoreira_Producer
    @EduardoMoreira_Producer 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing video. Well done!

  • @granadamusic
    @granadamusic 6 месяцев назад

    man this is EXACTLY what i needed, fr!!! thanks a lot James!!!!

  • @sandonsmith
    @sandonsmith 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much James!

  • @ianchattam9368
    @ianchattam9368 8 месяцев назад

    This is sooooooooooo helpful man, thanks a million.

  • @JonDaiello
    @JonDaiello 9 месяцев назад +6

    This is a great to hear! I have been doing some light mixing and recording, and I was wondering if upgrading beyond the basic M1 would be helpful. For my situation, it seems like the answer is “no”, and that’s reassuring. Thanks!

  • @kidsofhouse9869
    @kidsofhouse9869 Месяц назад

    Thanks man totally the best and only good video and guide when it comes to buy a Macbook for audio Production. You help me a lot and i can def. Say a ton of people. Keep going G.!

  • @eternalstudios4749
    @eternalstudios4749 9 месяцев назад +4

    Ahhhh mannn, this is an awesome video. I know it’s a lot of work. But I’d be REALLY interested to see a comparison added to this, with Studio One and Luna. Mainly because they are the best alternatives to pro tools, but also because both of them are doing some interesting work. Plus, to my Knowlege Luna is one of the only other Mac exclusive DAW’s, other than Logic.

  • @prod_adrian
    @prod_adrian 2 месяца назад

    Just the perfect MacOS video for music creators!! I find myself going back to this one a ton of times, thinking about purchasing my first Macbook Air.
    Are you already planning to do an updated version of this comparison now with the M3 airs officially being released?
    Thank you for your indepth work and the time you put in, thats great informative content for us!! 🙌🏻

  • @drbakker
    @drbakker 8 месяцев назад

    Very helpful! Thanks

  • @joegorfinkle8677
    @joegorfinkle8677 4 месяца назад

    Really terrific analysis, thanks for the effort and tremendous info. Am curious about the effect of tracks which are linear vs the scene based approach that Live and Bitwig are moving towards. Will the efficiency cores provide accretive performance in scene based arrangements? Your thoughts?

  • @unconditionallovechild
    @unconditionallovechild 26 дней назад +1

    Wow thank you so much for putting together such an informative and concisely explained video! Only bought my latest mac a year and a half ago and now as im levelling up my production with both more plugins and sample libraries, its really starting to struggle. Im an ableton user so sad to learn its not as favorable for the newer chips, though i recall seeing in the reddit thread where this vid was recommended that Ableton are discussing rectifying this for future updates 🤞

  • @mikebeats95
    @mikebeats95 8 месяцев назад

    Very informative thank you 💯

  • @andyread5363
    @andyread5363 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you, very helpful

  • @whatintheworld6501
    @whatintheworld6501 2 месяца назад

    Excellent video, thanks

  • @01amilne
    @01amilne 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. I'm curious if you have any experience using VEPro to know which cpu is best suited to it. I've been contemplating replacing my Hackintoshes with a MacStudio at some point. thx.

  • @BeatsAndGuitars
    @BeatsAndGuitars 7 месяцев назад

    Awesome video. Thank you

  • @jeanpijeau9324
    @jeanpijeau9324 7 месяцев назад

    Best review out there!🎉

  • @brunolacerda4611
    @brunolacerda4611 6 месяцев назад

    Best clarifying video

  • @j-station
    @j-station 9 месяцев назад +2

    I have been looking for this channel for years. Great vid! Thank you so much!
    Crazy that Logic won’t utilize all the cores…that makes no sense on Apples part

  • @BrettFairchild
    @BrettFairchild 7 месяцев назад

    I liked this video, I just was hoping for a clear conclusion and what computers and specs you specifically recommend for people

  • @stofenn
    @stofenn 2 месяца назад +1

    excellent content. Thank you for this, James. I went with the M1 MAX at 64gb Unified and 4tbSSD. Should be more than enough for my needs as a professional producer and hobbyist film composer.

  • @androidlust
    @androidlust 2 месяца назад

    This is extremely helpful. Thank you! Any idea about Digital Performer? Not sure if it takes advantage of the efficiency cores.