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Hello! What doesn't make sense to me is that if you've set IPTV to LAN ports 3 and 4 on the router, why isn't the switch plugged into one of those ports (you have it plugged into LAN port 1)?
Hell! Based on a general understanding of network configurations, here's some insight that might help clarify your question: IPTV Settings on Specific LAN Ports: When certain LAN ports on a router are designated for IPTV, it usually means these ports are optimized or configured to prioritize IPTV traffic. This could involve specific settings like VLAN tagging or Quality of Service (QoS) adjustments. Connecting a Switch to a Non-IPTV LAN Port: If a switch is connected to a LAN port not designated for IPTV (like LAN port 1 in your scenario), it could be for several reasons: Different Network Segments: The devices connected to the switch may not require the specific configurations applied to the IPTV-designated ports. For example, general data devices (like computers, printers, or non-IPTV cameras) might be connected to this switch. Bandwidth and Traffic Management: IPTV might require dedicated bandwidth or specific network settings that are not necessary or desirable for other devices on the network. Network Design Preferences: The network's overall design may require different types of traffic to be separated, or there may be other technical reasons based on the network's topology. PTZOptics Camera Connection: If a PTZOptics camera is involved in this setup, it's important to connect it to a network segment that meets its data and bandwidth requirements, whether it's through the switch or directly to a router port. For a specific answer tailored to your equipment and network setup, it's advisable to consult the documentation for your router, switch, and any other relevant network devices. If you have a PTZOptics camera and need assistance with its network configuration, reaching out directly to PTZOptics support with details of your setup would be beneficial. They can provide guidance based on the specific requirements of their cameras.
Thanks for taking the time to put together a tutorial for such affordable gear! Now that I am starting to use NDI Tools, I regret not using gigabit switches in the older parts of the building!
Thanks for a great Video idea! Creating an affordable NDI (Network Device Interface) setup for video production involves selecting the right networking equipment to ensure a reliable and high-quality video stream over your network. NDI is a technology that allows you to send and receive high-quality, low-latency video and audio over a standard Ethernet network, making it ideal for live streaming, broadcasting, and video production environments. Here's a basic guide to setting up an affordable NDI network: 1. Network Switch Core Requirement: A gigabit Ethernet switch is essential for an NDI setup. It should have enough ports for all your NDI devices plus a few extra for future expansion. Recommendation: Look for switches with IGMP snooping, which optimizes network performance for multicast traffic like NDI. Affordable options include switches from TP-Link, NETGEAR, or D-Link. For a small setup, an 8-port gigabit switch might suffice, but consider 16 or 24 ports for more extensive setups. 2. Network Cables Quality Matters: Use Cat 6 or Cat 6a Ethernet cables to connect your devices to the network switch. These cables support higher bandwidths necessary for NDI video streaming. Length: Keep cable lengths to a minimum to reduce potential latency or signal degradation. 3. NDI-Compatible Cameras or Converters Cameras: Some cameras come with built-in NDI support, but these can be more expensive. PTZOptics offers NDI-compatible cameras that strike a good balance between cost and performance. Converters: For existing cameras without NDI, consider using NDI converters (like the BirdDog Flex 4K or the NewTek Connect Spark) to convert HDMI or SDI signals to NDI. 4. Computer for Streaming/Production Specifications: Ensure your computer(s) have sufficient processing power, RAM, and a solid-state drive (SSD) to handle NDI streams. Quad-core processors or higher and at least 16GB of RAM are recommended. Software: Use NDI-compatible software for mixing and streaming, such as OBS Studio (free), vMix, or NewTek’s TriCaster system. 5. Network Configuration Dedicated Network: Ideally, set up a dedicated network for your NDI traffic to avoid congestion with other network activities. Bandwidth Management: Be aware that NDI can be bandwidth-intensive. A single 1080p NDI stream can use up to 100 Mbps. Ensure your network infrastructure can handle the total bandwidth required for all streams. Additional Tips Wi-Fi Considerations: While NDI can work over Wi-Fi, a wired connection is more reliable for video production due to lower latency and higher stability. Test Your Setup: Before going live, thoroughly test your setup under different conditions to ensure stability and performance. Conclusion Setting up an affordable NDI network requires careful selection of network equipment and devices. By investing in a good network switch, using quality cables, and choosing the right cameras or converters, you can create a powerful and flexible video production environment. Always plan for scalability and future needs to maximize your investment. Thanks for checking out our Channel! Learn More: ptzoptics.com/
Thanks so much for this, very helpful for someone who is good on productions but not so much on IP networking. Noticing a ton of new settings in the Archer 6000 and wondering if any updated videos or places to point a learner trying to troubleshoot NDI issues that may be network related. For example "Link Aggregation" is not seen as a setting and seems like it may manage the heavy bandwidth of NDI better?
Hi! Troubleshooting NDI (Network Device Interface) issues that may be network-related, especially with newer routers like the Archer 6000, involves understanding various network settings and features that can impact NDI performance. "Link Aggregation" is one of those features that can enhance network performance, particularly for bandwidth-intensive applications like NDI video streaming. Here's a guide on where to learn more about these settings and how they might affect NDI: Understanding Link Aggregation What It Is: Link Aggregation (also known as port trunking or Ethernet bonding) involves combining multiple network connections in parallel to increase throughput and provide redundancy. It's useful in environments where high data rates and reliability are crucial. NDI Applications: For NDI, which can be bandwidth-intensive, link aggregation can help by providing more bandwidth and better handling of high data rates, reducing the likelihood of dropped frames or connectivity issues. Learning Resources Router Manual: The Archer 6000's user manual is a great starting point. It should explain the specific features and how to configure them. Manufacturer’s Website: TP-Link’s website and support forums can be valuable resources for understanding specific features of the Archer 6000. NDI Specific Resources: NewTek’s NDI Support Page: NewTek, the creators of NDI, offer resources and guidelines for optimizing network settings for NDI. NDI Community Forums: Places where professionals discuss setups and troubleshooting, including network configurations. Online Courses and Tutorials: Look for online courses or tutorials that focus on network management for video production, especially those that cover NDI. RUclips Videos: There are many tech channels on RUclips that offer tutorials and guides on setting up routers for specific applications like streaming. Troubleshooting NDI Issues Network Speed and Stability: Ensure your network is fast and stable. NDI requires a high-speed, low-latency network, ideally Gigabit Ethernet. Update Firmware: Make sure your router and NDI devices are running the latest firmware. Quality of Service (QoS) Settings: Adjust QoS settings on your router to prioritize NDI traffic. Network Segmentation: Consider segmenting your network to keep NDI traffic on a dedicated subnet or VLAN to reduce congestion. Cable Quality: Use high-quality, Cat 6 or above Ethernet cables for all connections. Avoid Wi-Fi: If possible, use wired connections for NDI devices as Wi-Fi can be less reliable and slower. Additional Considerations Compatibility: Make sure all your NDI-compatible devices are configured to work correctly within the network. Testing: Perform network tests (like bandwidth and latency tests) to identify potential bottlenecks. By understanding and correctly configuring network features like Link Aggregation and others, you can create a more robust and reliable network environment for NDI-based video production. Remember, every network environment is unique, so what works best can vary. Continuous testing and adjustment may be necessary to achieve optimal performance.
Hey David, If you're referring to a network configuration where certain LAN ports (like ports 3 and 4) are designated for IPTV and not used for NDI sources, this could be due to a few reasons related to network management and optimization. Let's explore why this might be the case: 1. Network Segmentation Dedicated Use: Ports may be configured for specific uses to segment the network. This is a common practice to manage network traffic efficiently and ensure that each type of traffic has sufficient bandwidth. IPTV Traffic: IPTV (Internet Protocol Television) streams can be bandwidth-intensive. Allocating dedicated ports ensures that IPTV traffic does not interfere with or get slowed down by other types of network traffic. 2. Quality of Service (QoS) Prioritization: Networks often use QoS settings to prioritize certain types of traffic. By designating specific ports for IPTV, network administrators can apply QoS rules to prioritize video streaming traffic, ensuring stable and high-quality IPTV service. 3. Security and Control Access Control: Designating ports for specific purposes can also help in implementing security measures. For instance, restricting IPTV traffic to certain ports can prevent unauthorized access or use. Network Monitoring: It's easier to monitor and manage network performance when different types of traffic are segregated. 4. Compatibility and Protocols Protocol Differences: IPTV and NDI (Network Device Interface) might use different network protocols or standards. Separating them ensures compatibility and optimal performance for each type of service. 5. Avoiding Network Congestion Bandwidth Management: NDI sources can also be bandwidth-intensive, especially when dealing with high-resolution, low-latency video. Keeping NDI and IPTV on separate ports or network segments can help in managing and balancing the overall network load. 6. Use-Case Specific Configuration Flexibility: In some network setups, ports could be dynamically reconfigured for different purposes based on current needs. Ports 3 and 4 might be reserved for IPTV under normal circumstances but could be repurposed for NDI or other uses if needed. Conclusion Designating specific LAN ports for IPTV and not using them for NDI sources is likely a strategic decision to optimize network performance, manage bandwidth, ensure quality of service, and maintain network security. Each network may have its unique requirements and configurations based on the specific use-cases and the network architecture in place.
Hello! You'll need to follow a few steps to configure VLANs on a TP-Link switch (such as the SG1016PE). First, you're correct that your TP-Link Archer C1200 v3 router may not support VLAN configurations directly since it is primarily a consumer router. However, the TP-Link SG1016PE switch supports VLAN functionality, which you can utilize to manage your IP-based video production network, especially for separating multicast and NDI equipment traffic. Steps to Configure VLANs on the TP-Link SG1016PE Switch: Access the Switch’s Web Interface: Connect your computer to one of the switch’s Ethernet ports. Open a web browser and type the switch's default IP address in the address bar (often something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1). Log in using the default credentials, usually admin/admin unless changed. Set Up VLANs: Go to the VLAN section in the web interface. Create VLANs to separate traffic for different types of devices, e.g., one VLAN for NDI traffic and another for general network traffic. Tagging VLANs: Ensure that your devices that need to interact with specific VLANs (such as NDI-enabled cameras) are connected to ports tagged with the appropriate VLAN. Untagged VLANs: Ports that handle regular traffic without VLAN tagging should be untagged. Assign Ports to VLANs: Assign specific ports on the switch to the VLANs you created. For example, you could assign your PTZOptics cameras and other NDI devices to one VLAN while general devices, like computers, use a different VLAN. You may also want to reserve one VLAN for your router’s connection to ensure proper network management traffic flow. Enable IGMP Snooping for Multicast: Go to the Multicast settings and enable IGMP Snooping to properly manage multicast traffic. NDI relies heavily on multicast for video data transmission, so this is crucial to ensure the smooth functioning of your IP video production system. This will optimize your multicast traffic flow and reduce network congestion by only sending multicast streams to the devices that request it. Configure Quality of Service (QoS): If your switch has QoS settings, you can prioritize traffic types to ensure that NDI traffic (which can be bandwidth-intensive) takes precedence over other types of network traffic. This can help prevent video stuttering or delays in your live production setup. Multicast and mDNS Setup on the TP-Link Archer C1200 Router: Enable Multicast Routing: Log in to your TP-Link Archer C1200 router’s web interface. Navigate to Advanced > Network > IPTV or Multicast settings, depending on your firmware version. Enable multicast routing and, if necessary, set IGMP Proxy or IGMP Snooping to help manage the multicast traffic more efficiently. mDNS for NDI Discovery: Ensure that your router is configured to allow mDNS traffic to enable device discovery for NDI products. Some routers may require enabling a setting for Bonjour or mDNS under advanced network settings. This allows the NDI-enabled devices to discover each other on the network. Final Steps: After configuring both VLANs and multicast settings, test your NDI cameras and software to ensure they are properly discovered and that video streams flow without interruption. If you encounter any issues with NDI discovery or multicast traffic, it’s important to double-check that the IGMP Snooping settings are properly configured on both the router and the switch and ensure that the VLANs are correctly set up for each device.
Hey friend. I have implemented this setup into an existing network (i.e. there is another device assigning IPs and providing Internet). A line runs from the downstairs to the upstairs which hits the WAN of our TP-Link router and setup is similar to this video with switch, etc. In short, my NDI devices are getting their IPs not from the TP-Link router but from the downstairs device. I have my NDI devices plugged into the switch and switch going to an IPTV VLAN port on TP-Link router (slot 3/4)… however, if I connect a device like our upstairs computer into the Internet port (slot 1/2) that device will receive an IP from the TP-Link router. What is happening? Thank you for the help earlier.
Hello! It sounds like there is a mix of configurations happening between your downstairs device (which seems to be acting as the primary DHCP server for your network) and the TP-Link router. Here’s a breakdown of what's likely happening: Downstairs Device as DHCP Server: The downstairs device (probably a modem/router) is assigning IP addresses to devices connected to the network, including your NDI devices. Since the NDI devices are connected to the switch, and the switch is connected to the IPTV VLAN port on the TP-Link router, those devices are still in the same subnet as the downstairs device and are thus getting their IPs from it. TP-Link Router Acting as a Separate Subnet: The TP-Link router is connected to the downstairs device via its WAN port, creating a separate subnet. When you connect a device (like your upstairs computer) to one of the Internet ports (slot 1/2) on the TP-Link router, it's being placed on the TP-Link router's local network, and thus receives an IP from the TP-Link router's DHCP server. IPTV VLAN Port Behavior: The IPTV VLAN port (slot 3/4) on the TP-Link router is likely configured to bridge or pass through the downstairs network's traffic without modifying it. This means any device connected to the switch, which is connected to the IPTV VLAN port, will communicate directly with the downstairs device's network and receive its IPs from the downstairs device's DHCP server. Why Your NDI Devices Are Getting IPs from Downstairs The IPTV VLAN port is configured to pass through the traffic without the TP-Link router’s DHCP interference, which is why your NDI devices plugged into the switch (which is connected to the IPTV VLAN port) are getting IPs from the downstairs device. Why Your Upstairs Computer Gets an IP from TP-Link Router When you plug your upstairs computer into one of the Internet ports (slot 1/2) on the TP-Link router, it’s on the local network created by the TP-Link router. This subnet is managed by the TP-Link router’s own DHCP server, which is why the computer gets an IP address from it. Solutions Option 1: Configure a Single DHCP Server: To avoid confusion, you could disable the DHCP server on the TP-Link router and let the downstairs device handle all IP addresses. This way, all devices will be on the same network and get IPs from the same DHCP server. Option 2: Configure the TP-Link Router in Access Point Mode: If your goal is to have a single, unified network, consider setting the TP-Link router to operate in Access Point (AP) mode. This way, the TP-Link router won’t create a separate subnet and will allow the downstairs device to handle all DHCP assignments. Option 3: Adjust VLAN Settings: If you want the TP-Link router to assign IPs to some devices and not others, you might need to adjust your VLAN settings. Ensure the VLAN configurations align with which devices should receive IPs from which router. Option 4: Use Static IP Assignments: If possible, you can set static IPs for your NDI devices and other critical network hardware to ensure they are on the correct subnet and reduce potential conflicts.
Hi Thank you very much for this video as someone who is new to this this really helps alot! Quick question: For my church due to our location we have poor internet speeds so when we are about to stream we switch to a tethered connection with a phone to use data. Would the NDI setup still work if the computer is not using the internet connected to the router? And if not would you know a work around? Thank you
Hello! I'm glad to hear the video was helpful! Regarding your question about using NDI in a setting with poor internet connectivity and switching to a tethered phone connection for streaming, it's important to clarify how NDI technology works within your setup. NDI (Network Device Interface) technology is designed for local network use and doesn't rely on internet speed or connectivity for local video transmission between devices on the same network. It's used primarily for high-quality, low-latency video and audio transmission over a local area network (LAN). Therefore, if your computer and PTZOptics camera are connected to the same router or network switch (even without internet access), the NDI streams should still work just fine for local production and monitoring purposes. However, when you mention streaming, it's crucial to differentiate between local NDI transmission and broadcasting to the internet. For actual internet streaming to platforms like RUclips, Facebook, etc., what matters is the upload speed of the internet connection you are using-whether it's your tethered phone data connection or another internet service. The NDI setup will not be directly affected by your choice of internet connection for streaming, as long as the devices involved in the NDI setup are on the same local network. If you're facing challenges due to changing the network connection for streaming (e.g., switching from a local router-based network to a tethered phone connection), here are a few considerations: Ensure Network Consistency for NDI: Keep your NDI-enabled devices (your PTZOptics camera, computer, and any other NDI sources) connected to the same router or switch to maintain a stable local network for NDI transmission. This setup is independent of your internet connection used for streaming. Dedicated Streaming PC's Internet Connection: For the computer that is streaming the output to the internet, ensure that it can switch to the tethered phone connection smoothly. This change in internet source shouldn't affect the local NDI network as long as the computer remains connected to both networks (the local NDI network through Ethernet, for example, and the internet through the tethered connection). Network Setup: If the computer needs to disconnect from the router to tether to the phone for internet access, consider using a dual-network setup. This can be achieved by using two network interfaces on the streaming computer (e.g., an Ethernet connection for the local NDI network and a Wi-Fi or USB connection for the tethered phone internet). This setup allows the computer to manage local NDI traffic and internet streaming simultaneously on two separate networks. In summary, your NDI setup within your local network will work regardless of your internet connection status. The key is ensuring that the devices for NDI use are on the same local network. For internet streaming, the quality and stability of your tethered phone connection will be the main factors affecting your stream's quality to the audience. If you have specific setup questions or encounter technical issues, please don't hesitate to ask for more detailed guidance! Please reach out to our PTZOptics Support Team Support Numbers: 833-888-9706 or 484 593 2584 Monday -Thursday: 8am to 6pm EST Friday: 8am to 4pm EST Not open Saturday or Sunday. Community Portal: community.ptzoptics.com/s/ Thanks for checking out our Channel! Learn More: ptzoptics.com/
Could you use a different router, say a Netgear ac1750 - r6700 v3 (think that's right) with this TP-Link switch? Or in a general, another brand of router?
Yes, you can use a different brand of router, such as the Netgear AC1750 - R6700 v3, with a TP-Link switch or switches from other brands. Routers and switches are generally designed to be interoperable and follow standard networking protocols, allowing devices from different manufacturers to work together seamlessly. Here are a few key points to consider when using a router from one brand (like Netgear) with a switch from another brand (like TP-Link): Compatibility Ethernet Standards: As long as both devices adhere to standard Ethernet protocols (which they typically do), they should be compatible. Speeds: Ensure that the speed capabilities of the switch match or exceed those of the router for optimal performance. For example, if your router supports Gigabit Ethernet, use a switch that also supports Gigabit speeds. Setup Connect via Ethernet Cable: Connect the router to the switch using a standard Ethernet cable. Typically, any port on the switch can be used to connect to the router. Network Configuration: The router will continue to manage network assignments (like DHCP for IP addresses) and routing, while the switch will expand the number of available Ethernet ports. Performance No Speed Reduction: Using a switch from a different brand should not reduce your network speed. The switch simply extends the number of available ports and does not typically process or limit the data passing through it. Quality of Service (QoS) and Advanced Features: Some advanced features may not be fully interoperable if they are specific to a brand's ecosystem, but basic networking and switching functions will work. Use Cases Expanding Network Capacity: If you need more Ethernet ports than your router provides, adding a switch is an ideal solution. Segmenting Networks: For more complex setups, managed switches (which offer features like VLAN support) can be used to segment and manage network traffic. General Considerations Firmware Updates: Keep both the router and the switch firmware updated for optimal performance and security. Cable Quality: Use high-quality Ethernet cables (Cat5e, Cat6, or higher) for connecting devices. In summary, you can certainly use a Netgear router with a TP-Link switch or mix and match brands as needed for your network setup. The interoperability of networking equipment makes it convenient to choose products based on features, price, and personal preference without being restricted to a single brand.
We didn’t have to do anything special as far as we know, but we’re also not networking experts. Would be great to know if there’s any configuration users of the Netgear ProSafe managed switches need for optimum performance. Some of the terminology you’ve described doesn’t translate 1:1 with the options we see. Thx much!!
If you have your NDI devices plugged into the switch (which is plugged into router port 3/4), would you plug your streaming machine (PC) into router port 1/2 to reach the Internet with a hardwired connection? Would streaming software on your streaming machine see the NDI sources? Thanks for video
I am new to NDI workflows...I know it is ideal to have one network for all of your NDI devices, and a separate network for internet so the upload and download while streaming does not impact bandwidth used for transmitting the NDI sources. Is this video essentially showing how to set up a single machine to have both an internet connection, and a connection to the NDI network without interference from each other?
Hey Sean, Yes, you're on the right track. In an NDI (Network Device Interface) workflow, particularly in a live streaming or broadcast environment, it's often recommended to have a dedicated network for NDI devices to ensure high bandwidth and low latency for video signals. Separating this from your general internet network can help avoid bandwidth conflicts and potential interference. When setting up a single machine (like a streaming computer or production workstation) to handle both NDI and internet connections, the goal is to ensure that each network connection is used for its intended purpose without interfering with the other. Here's a basic overview of how this can be achieved: 1. Dual Network Interfaces Two Network Cards: Ideally, your machine should have two separate network interfaces (NICs). Most computers have one built-in Ethernet port; you can add a second one via an expansion slot or a USB-to-Ethernet adapter. Dedicated Interfaces: Assign one network interface to connect to the NDI network and the other to your general internet network. 2. Configuring the NDI Network Connect to NDI Switch: Connect the NDI-dedicated network interface to a switch that is part of your NDI network. This network should include all your NDI-enabled devices like cameras, switchers, and any other NDI sources or receivers. Static IP Addresses: Assign static IP addresses to your NDI devices (including the dedicated NIC on your machine) within the same subnet to ensure reliable communication. 3. Configuring the Internet Connection Connect to Internet Router: Connect the second network interface to your internet router. This connection will be used for general internet access, including streaming uploads, downloads, and any other internet-related tasks. Dynamic or Static IP: Typically, this connection can be set to obtain an IP address automatically via DHCP from your router. 4. Network Prioritization Avoid Cross Traffic: Ensure that your streaming and production software is configured to use the NDI network for video traffic. Similarly, make sure your streaming output (like to RUclips or Twitch) uses the internet connection. QoS Settings: If available, configure Quality of Service (QoS) settings on your router to prioritize streaming traffic. 5. Testing and Monitoring Monitor Bandwidth: Use network monitoring tools to ensure that your NDI traffic is isolated to its dedicated network and that your internet connection is handling your streaming upload without interference. Test for Stability: Run tests to check the stability and performance of both the NDI network and your internet connection, particularly under load. Conclusion Setting up a machine with dual network interfaces for separate NDI and internet connections is an effective way to manage bandwidth and ensure the reliability of both your NDI workflow and internet-based streaming tasks. This setup helps in maintaining high-quality video streams over NDI while simultaneously managing your live stream's upload requirements.
You can connect the PTZOptics IP-JOY to control these cameras over the network. It is PoE so it just needs to be connected to the network for connectivity and power
Hello friends, I congratulate you on your videos ,,, I always see you I want to buy the TP-Link Archer C1200 v3 router, but I can't find it, maybe another model came out, which TP-Link model would be the equivalent of 1200? I hope you help me thanks (I'm from Chile)
Hello! Thank you for reaching out and for your kind words about our videos! It's always great to hear that our content is appreciated. The TP-Link Archer C1200 is a popular model known for its balance between performance and price, making it a solid choice for home networks. However, technology products evolve rapidly, and models are frequently updated or replaced by newer versions that offer improved performance, features, or value. If you're having trouble finding the TP-Link Archer C1200 v3, it's likely because it has been succeeded by newer models. TP-Link regularly updates its router lineup, so there are several current models that could serve as good equivalents or upgrades to the Archer C1200. Here are a few suggestions: TP-Link Archer A6/C6: The Archer A6 (or C6 in some regions) is a great alternative, offering similar features to the C1200, such as dual-band AC1200 speeds, which are suitable for most home networking needs. It also supports MU-MIMO technology for better performance in environments with multiple devices. TP-Link Archer A7: A step up from the A6/C6, the Archer A7 offers a bit more in terms of range and performance, making it a solid choice for slightly larger homes or for users needing a bit more from their network. TP-Link Archer AX10/AX1500: If you're interested in future-proofing your setup, you might consider moving to a Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router like the Archer AX10. Wi-Fi 6 offers improved speeds, efficiency, and capacity over the older 802.11ac (now renamed Wi-Fi 5) standard. The AX10/AX1500 is an entry-level Wi-Fi 6 router that can provide better performance, especially in environments with many connected devices. When choosing a new router, consider the size of your space, the number of devices you'll connect, and any specific needs you might have (such as gaming, streaming, or extensive file transfers). Wi-Fi 6 routers are more future-proof and offer advantages in crowded Wi-Fi environments, but AC1200 routers like the A6/C6 or A7 are still adequate for many current needs and can be more cost-effective. It's also a good idea to check local retailers and online stores in Chile for availability and prices, as these can vary significantly by region. Thanks for checking out our Channel! Learn More: ptzoptics.com/
are you talking about a camera or a PC you want to connect to a NDI Network? for a Camera you need a not so cheap converter. for a PC you just need the NDI toolset whitch is free.
Hello! Connecting an HDMI camera to an NDI (Network Device Interface) network on a budget can be a bit challenging due to the need for hardware or software that converts the HDMI signal into NDI. This conversion is necessary because HDMI is a physical connection standard for transferring video (and audio) signals, while NDI is a network protocol designed for transporting video over IP networks. Here are a few budget-conscious options you might consider: 1. Use a Dedicated HDMI to NDI Converter There are dedicated hardware converters that can take an HDMI input and convert it to an NDI stream. While some of these converters can be expensive, there are budget options available from brands like BirdDog, Kiloview, and Magewell. Prices vary, but you might find some entry-level models that fit your budget. 2. Software Solutions with Capture Cards If you already have a computer and an HDMI capture card (or a USB capture device), you can use software to convert the video feed from your camera into an NDI stream. Software like OBS Studio (free) can capture HDMI input through the capture card and then use an NDI plugin to output the video over your network as NDI. This solution requires a computer but might be cost-effective if you already have the necessary hardware. OBS Studio: Free software for video recording and live streaming that supports NDI through a plugin. NDI Tools: NewTek provides a free software package called NDI Tools that includes NDI Virtual Input. This tool can take a variety of video inputs (including those captured by OBS) and convert them to NDI. 3. Consider Lower-Cost Alternatives While not ideal, exploring other low-cost or DIY solutions might provide a temporary fix. For example, some community projects or less-known brands might offer more affordable converters, though reliability and support could be issues. 4. Check Compatibility and Network Setup Before investing in any hardware or software solution, ensure that your camera’s HDMI output is compatible with the capture device or converter you plan to use. Additionally, ensure your network setup is capable of handling NDI video streams, as NDI can be bandwidth-intensive, especially at higher resolutions and frame rates. Practical Considerations Quality and Latency: While budget solutions can be effective, they might not offer the same quality or low latency as more expensive professional gear. Assess your needs to determine if a budget solution will meet your expectations. Network Requirements: NDI requires a robust network infrastructure, especially if you plan to use multiple NDI sources simultaneously. Ensure your network can handle the bandwidth and has proper QoS (Quality of Service) configurations to prioritize video traffic. By exploring these options and considering your current setup and requirements, you should be able to find a solution that allows you to integrate your HDMI camera into an NDI network without breaking the bank. Thanks for checking out our Channel! Learn More: ptzoptics.com/
Hi Steve, there are certainly others that will work. We wanted to make a video about one that is really easy to use and affordable. If you have little experience with networking and routers, this is a great one to learn on. Yes, there are much more expensive and powerful systems available. But this will work.
@@PTZOptics I simply meant if you arent live streaming and instead just sending all video to a recording card or in house displays, is there even a need for a router?
@@stevegorczyk3133 - You can get away without one. But, it's not recommended for a bunch of reasons. It's so cheap it's worth it for many reasons including discovery and DHCP. But, yes, you could set static IP addresses for everything and go from there.
I have been turned on to Ubiquiti hardware... Love the style, power, and ease of use.... It is so easy to set things up and track all your connected equipment.
Have you seen our knowledgebase article about tuning Ubiquiti equipment for NDI?
Hello! What doesn't make sense to me is that if you've set IPTV to LAN ports 3 and 4 on the router, why isn't the switch plugged into one of those ports (you have it plugged into LAN port 1)?
Hell!
Based on a general understanding of network configurations, here's some insight that might help clarify your question:
IPTV Settings on Specific LAN Ports: When certain LAN ports on a router are designated for IPTV, it usually means these ports are optimized or configured to prioritize IPTV traffic. This could involve specific settings like VLAN tagging or Quality of Service (QoS) adjustments.
Connecting a Switch to a Non-IPTV LAN Port: If a switch is connected to a LAN port not designated for IPTV (like LAN port 1 in your scenario), it could be for several reasons:
Different Network Segments: The devices connected to the switch may not require the specific configurations applied to the IPTV-designated ports. For example, general data devices (like computers, printers, or non-IPTV cameras) might be connected to this switch.
Bandwidth and Traffic Management: IPTV might require dedicated bandwidth or specific network settings that are not necessary or desirable for other devices on the network.
Network Design Preferences: The network's overall design may require different types of traffic to be separated, or there may be other technical reasons based on the network's topology.
PTZOptics Camera Connection: If a PTZOptics camera is involved in this setup, it's important to connect it to a network segment that meets its data and bandwidth requirements, whether it's through the switch or directly to a router port.
For a specific answer tailored to your equipment and network setup, it's advisable to consult the documentation for your router, switch, and any other relevant network devices. If you have a PTZOptics camera and need assistance with its network configuration, reaching out directly to PTZOptics support with details of your setup would be beneficial. They can provide guidance based on the specific requirements of their cameras.
Thanks for taking the time to put together a tutorial for such affordable gear! Now that I am starting to use NDI Tools, I regret not using gigabit switches in the older parts of the building!
Yeah, I know that 10/100 network switches won't work for NDI. Does that present a problem with your networking equipment?
@@PTZOptics Only because I can't use it in older parts of the church, like using NDI monitor in the nursery.
I would love it if you revisited this subject with any new information or equipment you now recommend.
Thanks for a great Video idea!
Creating an affordable NDI (Network Device Interface) setup for video production involves selecting the right networking equipment to ensure a reliable and high-quality video stream over your network. NDI is a technology that allows you to send and receive high-quality, low-latency video and audio over a standard Ethernet network, making it ideal for live streaming, broadcasting, and video production environments.
Here's a basic guide to setting up an affordable NDI network:
1. Network Switch
Core Requirement: A gigabit Ethernet switch is essential for an NDI setup. It should have enough ports for all your NDI devices plus a few extra for future expansion.
Recommendation: Look for switches with IGMP snooping, which optimizes network performance for multicast traffic like NDI. Affordable options include switches from TP-Link, NETGEAR, or D-Link. For a small setup, an 8-port gigabit switch might suffice, but consider 16 or 24 ports for more extensive setups.
2. Network Cables
Quality Matters: Use Cat 6 or Cat 6a Ethernet cables to connect your devices to the network switch. These cables support higher bandwidths necessary for NDI video streaming.
Length: Keep cable lengths to a minimum to reduce potential latency or signal degradation.
3. NDI-Compatible Cameras or Converters
Cameras: Some cameras come with built-in NDI support, but these can be more expensive. PTZOptics offers NDI-compatible cameras that strike a good balance between cost and performance.
Converters: For existing cameras without NDI, consider using NDI converters (like the BirdDog Flex 4K or the NewTek Connect Spark) to convert HDMI or SDI signals to NDI.
4. Computer for Streaming/Production
Specifications: Ensure your computer(s) have sufficient processing power, RAM, and a solid-state drive (SSD) to handle NDI streams. Quad-core processors or higher and at least 16GB of RAM are recommended.
Software: Use NDI-compatible software for mixing and streaming, such as OBS Studio (free), vMix, or NewTek’s TriCaster system.
5. Network Configuration
Dedicated Network: Ideally, set up a dedicated network for your NDI traffic to avoid congestion with other network activities.
Bandwidth Management: Be aware that NDI can be bandwidth-intensive. A single 1080p NDI stream can use up to 100 Mbps. Ensure your network infrastructure can handle the total bandwidth required for all streams.
Additional Tips
Wi-Fi Considerations: While NDI can work over Wi-Fi, a wired connection is more reliable for video production due to lower latency and higher stability.
Test Your Setup: Before going live, thoroughly test your setup under different conditions to ensure stability and performance.
Conclusion
Setting up an affordable NDI network requires careful selection of network equipment and devices. By investing in a good network switch, using quality cables, and choosing the right cameras or converters, you can create a powerful and flexible video production environment. Always plan for scalability and future needs to maximize your investment.
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Pretty close to what I use - thanks for the video. TP Link Archer C7 - 1750AC and an 8 port POE TP Link Switch
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Thanks so much for this, very helpful for someone who is good on productions but not so much on IP networking. Noticing a ton of new settings in the Archer 6000 and wondering if any updated videos or places to point a learner trying to troubleshoot NDI issues that may be network related. For example "Link Aggregation" is not seen as a setting and seems like it may manage the heavy bandwidth of NDI better?
Hi!
Troubleshooting NDI (Network Device Interface) issues that may be network-related, especially with newer routers like the Archer 6000, involves understanding various network settings and features that can impact NDI performance. "Link Aggregation" is one of those features that can enhance network performance, particularly for bandwidth-intensive applications like NDI video streaming. Here's a guide on where to learn more about these settings and how they might affect NDI:
Understanding Link Aggregation
What It Is: Link Aggregation (also known as port trunking or Ethernet bonding) involves combining multiple network connections in parallel to increase throughput and provide redundancy. It's useful in environments where high data rates and reliability are crucial.
NDI Applications: For NDI, which can be bandwidth-intensive, link aggregation can help by providing more bandwidth and better handling of high data rates, reducing the likelihood of dropped frames or connectivity issues.
Learning Resources
Router Manual: The Archer 6000's user manual is a great starting point. It should explain the specific features and how to configure them.
Manufacturer’s Website: TP-Link’s website and support forums can be valuable resources for understanding specific features of the Archer 6000.
NDI Specific Resources:
NewTek’s NDI Support Page: NewTek, the creators of NDI, offer resources and guidelines for optimizing network settings for NDI.
NDI Community Forums: Places where professionals discuss setups and troubleshooting, including network configurations.
Online Courses and Tutorials:
Look for online courses or tutorials that focus on network management for video production, especially those that cover NDI.
RUclips Videos: There are many tech channels on RUclips that offer tutorials and guides on setting up routers for specific applications like streaming.
Troubleshooting NDI Issues
Network Speed and Stability: Ensure your network is fast and stable. NDI requires a high-speed, low-latency network, ideally Gigabit Ethernet.
Update Firmware: Make sure your router and NDI devices are running the latest firmware.
Quality of Service (QoS) Settings: Adjust QoS settings on your router to prioritize NDI traffic.
Network Segmentation: Consider segmenting your network to keep NDI traffic on a dedicated subnet or VLAN to reduce congestion.
Cable Quality: Use high-quality, Cat 6 or above Ethernet cables for all connections.
Avoid Wi-Fi: If possible, use wired connections for NDI devices as Wi-Fi can be less reliable and slower.
Additional Considerations
Compatibility: Make sure all your NDI-compatible devices are configured to work correctly within the network.
Testing: Perform network tests (like bandwidth and latency tests) to identify potential bottlenecks.
By understanding and correctly configuring network features like Link Aggregation and others, you can create a more robust and reliable network environment for NDI-based video production. Remember, every network environment is unique, so what works best can vary. Continuous testing and adjustment may be necessary to achieve optimal performance.
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I don't get it why config 2 lan ports 3&4 for iptv then don't use them for ndi sources. Do you never use those ports
Hey David,
If you're referring to a network configuration where certain LAN ports (like ports 3 and 4) are designated for IPTV and not used for NDI sources, this could be due to a few reasons related to network management and optimization. Let's explore why this might be the case:
1. Network Segmentation
Dedicated Use: Ports may be configured for specific uses to segment the network. This is a common practice to manage network traffic efficiently and ensure that each type of traffic has sufficient bandwidth.
IPTV Traffic: IPTV (Internet Protocol Television) streams can be bandwidth-intensive. Allocating dedicated ports ensures that IPTV traffic does not interfere with or get slowed down by other types of network traffic.
2. Quality of Service (QoS)
Prioritization: Networks often use QoS settings to prioritize certain types of traffic. By designating specific ports for IPTV, network administrators can apply QoS rules to prioritize video streaming traffic, ensuring stable and high-quality IPTV service.
3. Security and Control
Access Control: Designating ports for specific purposes can also help in implementing security measures. For instance, restricting IPTV traffic to certain ports can prevent unauthorized access or use.
Network Monitoring: It's easier to monitor and manage network performance when different types of traffic are segregated.
4. Compatibility and Protocols
Protocol Differences: IPTV and NDI (Network Device Interface) might use different network protocols or standards. Separating them ensures compatibility and optimal performance for each type of service.
5. Avoiding Network Congestion
Bandwidth Management: NDI sources can also be bandwidth-intensive, especially when dealing with high-resolution, low-latency video. Keeping NDI and IPTV on separate ports or network segments can help in managing and balancing the overall network load.
6. Use-Case Specific Configuration
Flexibility: In some network setups, ports could be dynamically reconfigured for different purposes based on current needs. Ports 3 and 4 might be reserved for IPTV under normal circumstances but could be repurposed for NDI or other uses if needed.
Conclusion
Designating specific LAN ports for IPTV and not using them for NDI sources is likely a strategic decision to optimize network performance, manage bandwidth, ensure quality of service, and maintain network security. Each network may have its unique requirements and configurations based on the specific use-cases and the network architecture in place.
What do you know about using the tp-link switch to configure VLANs? I believe this router does not support it, but the switch has options.
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You'll need to follow a few steps to configure VLANs on a TP-Link switch (such as the SG1016PE).
First, you're correct that your TP-Link Archer C1200 v3 router may not support VLAN configurations directly since it is primarily a consumer router. However, the TP-Link SG1016PE switch supports VLAN functionality, which you can utilize to manage your IP-based video production network, especially for separating multicast and NDI equipment traffic.
Steps to Configure VLANs on the TP-Link SG1016PE Switch:
Access the Switch’s Web Interface:
Connect your computer to one of the switch’s Ethernet ports.
Open a web browser and type the switch's default IP address in the address bar (often something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1).
Log in using the default credentials, usually admin/admin unless changed.
Set Up VLANs:
Go to the VLAN section in the web interface.
Create VLANs to separate traffic for different types of devices, e.g., one VLAN for NDI traffic and another for general network traffic.
Tagging VLANs: Ensure that your devices that need to interact with specific VLANs (such as NDI-enabled cameras) are connected to ports tagged with the appropriate VLAN.
Untagged VLANs: Ports that handle regular traffic without VLAN tagging should be untagged.
Assign Ports to VLANs:
Assign specific ports on the switch to the VLANs you created. For example, you could assign your PTZOptics cameras and other NDI devices to one VLAN while general devices, like computers, use a different VLAN.
You may also want to reserve one VLAN for your router’s connection to ensure proper network management traffic flow.
Enable IGMP Snooping for Multicast:
Go to the Multicast settings and enable IGMP Snooping to properly manage multicast traffic. NDI relies heavily on multicast for video data transmission, so this is crucial to ensure the smooth functioning of your IP video production system.
This will optimize your multicast traffic flow and reduce network congestion by only sending multicast streams to the devices that request it.
Configure Quality of Service (QoS):
If your switch has QoS settings, you can prioritize traffic types to ensure that NDI traffic (which can be bandwidth-intensive) takes precedence over other types of network traffic. This can help prevent video stuttering or delays in your live production setup.
Multicast and mDNS Setup on the TP-Link Archer C1200 Router:
Enable Multicast Routing:
Log in to your TP-Link Archer C1200 router’s web interface.
Navigate to Advanced > Network > IPTV or Multicast settings, depending on your firmware version.
Enable multicast routing and, if necessary, set IGMP Proxy or IGMP Snooping to help manage the multicast traffic more efficiently.
mDNS for NDI Discovery:
Ensure that your router is configured to allow mDNS traffic to enable device discovery for NDI products.
Some routers may require enabling a setting for Bonjour or mDNS under advanced network settings. This allows the NDI-enabled devices to discover each other on the network.
Final Steps:
After configuring both VLANs and multicast settings, test your NDI cameras and software to ensure they are properly discovered and that video streams flow without interruption.
If you encounter any issues with NDI discovery or multicast traffic, it’s important to double-check that the IGMP Snooping settings are properly configured on both the router and the switch and ensure that the VLANs are correctly set up for each device.
Thanks for the instructions. Can I still use this and run 3 NDI cameras efficiently.
You should be able to with NDI. Depends on your network.
Hey friend. I have implemented this setup into an existing network (i.e. there is another device assigning IPs and providing Internet). A line runs from the downstairs to the upstairs which hits the WAN of our TP-Link router and setup is similar to this video with switch, etc. In short, my NDI devices are getting their IPs not from the TP-Link router but from the downstairs device. I have my NDI devices plugged into the switch and switch going to an IPTV VLAN port on TP-Link router (slot 3/4)… however, if I connect a device like our upstairs computer into the Internet port (slot 1/2) that device will receive an IP from the TP-Link router. What is happening? Thank you for the help earlier.
Hello!
It sounds like there is a mix of configurations happening between your downstairs device (which seems to be acting as the primary DHCP server for your network) and the TP-Link router. Here’s a breakdown of what's likely happening:
Downstairs Device as DHCP Server: The downstairs device (probably a modem/router) is assigning IP addresses to devices connected to the network, including your NDI devices. Since the NDI devices are connected to the switch, and the switch is connected to the IPTV VLAN port on the TP-Link router, those devices are still in the same subnet as the downstairs device and are thus getting their IPs from it.
TP-Link Router Acting as a Separate Subnet: The TP-Link router is connected to the downstairs device via its WAN port, creating a separate subnet. When you connect a device (like your upstairs computer) to one of the Internet ports (slot 1/2) on the TP-Link router, it's being placed on the TP-Link router's local network, and thus receives an IP from the TP-Link router's DHCP server.
IPTV VLAN Port Behavior: The IPTV VLAN port (slot 3/4) on the TP-Link router is likely configured to bridge or pass through the downstairs network's traffic without modifying it. This means any device connected to the switch, which is connected to the IPTV VLAN port, will communicate directly with the downstairs device's network and receive its IPs from the downstairs device's DHCP server.
Why Your NDI Devices Are Getting IPs from Downstairs
The IPTV VLAN port is configured to pass through the traffic without the TP-Link router’s DHCP interference, which is why your NDI devices plugged into the switch (which is connected to the IPTV VLAN port) are getting IPs from the downstairs device.
Why Your Upstairs Computer Gets an IP from TP-Link Router
When you plug your upstairs computer into one of the Internet ports (slot 1/2) on the TP-Link router, it’s on the local network created by the TP-Link router. This subnet is managed by the TP-Link router’s own DHCP server, which is why the computer gets an IP address from it.
Solutions
Option 1: Configure a Single DHCP Server: To avoid confusion, you could disable the DHCP server on the TP-Link router and let the downstairs device handle all IP addresses. This way, all devices will be on the same network and get IPs from the same DHCP server.
Option 2: Configure the TP-Link Router in Access Point Mode: If your goal is to have a single, unified network, consider setting the TP-Link router to operate in Access Point (AP) mode. This way, the TP-Link router won’t create a separate subnet and will allow the downstairs device to handle all DHCP assignments.
Option 3: Adjust VLAN Settings: If you want the TP-Link router to assign IPs to some devices and not others, you might need to adjust your VLAN settings. Ensure the VLAN configurations align with which devices should receive IPs from which router.
Option 4: Use Static IP Assignments: If possible, you can set static IPs for your NDI devices and other critical network hardware to ensure they are on the correct subnet and reduce potential conflicts.
@@PTZOptics I see. That makes it clear. Thank you again!
Hi Thank you very much for this video as someone who is new to this this really helps alot! Quick question: For my church due to our location we have poor internet speeds so when we are about to stream we switch to a tethered connection with a phone to use data. Would the NDI setup still work if the computer is not using the internet connected to the router? And if not would you know a work around? Thank you
Hello!
I'm glad to hear the video was helpful! Regarding your question about using NDI in a setting with poor internet connectivity and switching to a tethered phone connection for streaming, it's important to clarify how NDI technology works within your setup.
NDI (Network Device Interface) technology is designed for local network use and doesn't rely on internet speed or connectivity for local video transmission between devices on the same network. It's used primarily for high-quality, low-latency video and audio transmission over a local area network (LAN). Therefore, if your computer and PTZOptics camera are connected to the same router or network switch (even without internet access), the NDI streams should still work just fine for local production and monitoring purposes.
However, when you mention streaming, it's crucial to differentiate between local NDI transmission and broadcasting to the internet. For actual internet streaming to platforms like RUclips, Facebook, etc., what matters is the upload speed of the internet connection you are using-whether it's your tethered phone data connection or another internet service. The NDI setup will not be directly affected by your choice of internet connection for streaming, as long as the devices involved in the NDI setup are on the same local network.
If you're facing challenges due to changing the network connection for streaming (e.g., switching from a local router-based network to a tethered phone connection), here are a few considerations:
Ensure Network Consistency for NDI: Keep your NDI-enabled devices (your PTZOptics camera, computer, and any other NDI sources) connected to the same router or switch to maintain a stable local network for NDI transmission. This setup is independent of your internet connection used for streaming.
Dedicated Streaming PC's Internet Connection: For the computer that is streaming the output to the internet, ensure that it can switch to the tethered phone connection smoothly. This change in internet source shouldn't affect the local NDI network as long as the computer remains connected to both networks (the local NDI network through Ethernet, for example, and the internet through the tethered connection).
Network Setup: If the computer needs to disconnect from the router to tether to the phone for internet access, consider using a dual-network setup. This can be achieved by using two network interfaces on the streaming computer (e.g., an Ethernet connection for the local NDI network and a Wi-Fi or USB connection for the tethered phone internet). This setup allows the computer to manage local NDI traffic and internet streaming simultaneously on two separate networks.
In summary, your NDI setup within your local network will work regardless of your internet connection status. The key is ensuring that the devices for NDI use are on the same local network. For internet streaming, the quality and stability of your tethered phone connection will be the main factors affecting your stream's quality to the audience.
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Could you use a different router, say a Netgear ac1750 - r6700 v3 (think that's right) with this TP-Link switch? Or in a general, another brand of router?
Yes, you can use a different brand of router, such as the Netgear AC1750 - R6700 v3, with a TP-Link switch or switches from other brands. Routers and switches are generally designed to be interoperable and follow standard networking protocols, allowing devices from different manufacturers to work together seamlessly.
Here are a few key points to consider when using a router from one brand (like Netgear) with a switch from another brand (like TP-Link):
Compatibility
Ethernet Standards: As long as both devices adhere to standard Ethernet protocols (which they typically do), they should be compatible.
Speeds: Ensure that the speed capabilities of the switch match or exceed those of the router for optimal performance. For example, if your router supports Gigabit Ethernet, use a switch that also supports Gigabit speeds.
Setup
Connect via Ethernet Cable: Connect the router to the switch using a standard Ethernet cable. Typically, any port on the switch can be used to connect to the router.
Network Configuration: The router will continue to manage network assignments (like DHCP for IP addresses) and routing, while the switch will expand the number of available Ethernet ports.
Performance
No Speed Reduction: Using a switch from a different brand should not reduce your network speed. The switch simply extends the number of available ports and does not typically process or limit the data passing through it.
Quality of Service (QoS) and Advanced Features: Some advanced features may not be fully interoperable if they are specific to a brand's ecosystem, but basic networking and switching functions will work.
Use Cases
Expanding Network Capacity: If you need more Ethernet ports than your router provides, adding a switch is an ideal solution.
Segmenting Networks: For more complex setups, managed switches (which offer features like VLAN support) can be used to segment and manage network traffic.
General Considerations
Firmware Updates: Keep both the router and the switch firmware updated for optimal performance and security.
Cable Quality: Use high-quality Ethernet cables (Cat5e, Cat6, or higher) for connecting devices.
In summary, you can certainly use a Netgear router with a TP-Link switch or mix and match brands as needed for your network setup. The interoperability of networking equipment makes it convenient to choose products based on features, price, and personal preference without being restricted to a single brand.
We use Netgear managed switches, equipped with PoE.
Is your netgear switch working well for NDI? Did you have to change any of the settings?
We didn’t have to do anything special as far as we know, but we’re also not networking experts. Would be great to know if there’s any configuration users of the Netgear ProSafe managed switches need for optimum performance. Some of the terminology you’ve described doesn’t translate 1:1 with the options we see. Thx much!!
If you have your NDI devices plugged into the switch (which is plugged into router port 3/4), would you plug your streaming machine (PC) into router port 1/2 to reach the Internet with a hardwired connection? Would streaming software on your streaming machine see the NDI sources? Thanks for video
Yes, and Yes, that connection would let you see the NDI sources and the internet.
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I am new to NDI workflows...I know it is ideal to have one network for all of your NDI devices, and a separate network for internet so the upload and download while streaming does not impact bandwidth used for transmitting the NDI sources. Is this video essentially showing how to set up a single machine to have both an internet connection, and a connection to the NDI network without interference from each other?
Hey Sean,
Yes, you're on the right track. In an NDI (Network Device Interface) workflow, particularly in a live streaming or broadcast environment, it's often recommended to have a dedicated network for NDI devices to ensure high bandwidth and low latency for video signals. Separating this from your general internet network can help avoid bandwidth conflicts and potential interference.
When setting up a single machine (like a streaming computer or production workstation) to handle both NDI and internet connections, the goal is to ensure that each network connection is used for its intended purpose without interfering with the other. Here's a basic overview of how this can be achieved:
1. Dual Network Interfaces
Two Network Cards: Ideally, your machine should have two separate network interfaces (NICs). Most computers have one built-in Ethernet port; you can add a second one via an expansion slot or a USB-to-Ethernet adapter.
Dedicated Interfaces: Assign one network interface to connect to the NDI network and the other to your general internet network.
2. Configuring the NDI Network
Connect to NDI Switch: Connect the NDI-dedicated network interface to a switch that is part of your NDI network. This network should include all your NDI-enabled devices like cameras, switchers, and any other NDI sources or receivers.
Static IP Addresses: Assign static IP addresses to your NDI devices (including the dedicated NIC on your machine) within the same subnet to ensure reliable communication.
3. Configuring the Internet Connection
Connect to Internet Router: Connect the second network interface to your internet router. This connection will be used for general internet access, including streaming uploads, downloads, and any other internet-related tasks.
Dynamic or Static IP: Typically, this connection can be set to obtain an IP address automatically via DHCP from your router.
4. Network Prioritization
Avoid Cross Traffic: Ensure that your streaming and production software is configured to use the NDI network for video traffic. Similarly, make sure your streaming output (like to RUclips or Twitch) uses the internet connection.
QoS Settings: If available, configure Quality of Service (QoS) settings on your router to prioritize streaming traffic.
5. Testing and Monitoring
Monitor Bandwidth: Use network monitoring tools to ensure that your NDI traffic is isolated to its dedicated network and that your internet connection is handling your streaming upload without interference.
Test for Stability: Run tests to check the stability and performance of both the NDI network and your internet connection, particularly under load.
Conclusion
Setting up a machine with dual network interfaces for separate NDI and internet connections is an effective way to manage bandwidth and ensure the reliability of both your NDI workflow and internet-based streaming tasks. This setup helps in maintaining high-quality video streams over NDI while simultaneously managing your live stream's upload requirements.
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Awesome! What's the maximum length for those ethernet cables. Is it up to 100m? Or it's less? Thanks
Yes, 100m
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I need a Network Switch for my home 😆
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I use Ubiquiti as well Love them
Yes we do too
Where is the NDI device? I see a switch, a router, cameras, a monitor and a laptop.
Cameras can be a NDI device.
If I don't need access to the internet, do I need a router or just a switch?
For NDI Installations, you should use a router. - Lindsey :)
the POE switch only has 110watts it can power. Pretty low and only cable of 30watts max on a port.
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What hard control ptz camera controller would work with this setup and how would it be connected?
You can connect the PTZOptics IP-JOY to control these cameras over the network. It is PoE so it just needs to be connected to the network for connectivity and power
@@PTZOptics OK, so any IP-style PTZ controller would work, then?
Seems to be a decent setup
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Hello friends, I congratulate you on your videos ,,, I always see you
I want to buy the TP-Link Archer C1200 v3 router, but I can't find it, maybe another model came out, which TP-Link model would be the equivalent of 1200? I hope you help me thanks (I'm from Chile)
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The TP-Link Archer C1200 is a popular model known for its balance between performance and price, making it a solid choice for home networks. However, technology products evolve rapidly, and models are frequently updated or replaced by newer versions that offer improved performance, features, or value.
If you're having trouble finding the TP-Link Archer C1200 v3, it's likely because it has been succeeded by newer models. TP-Link regularly updates its router lineup, so there are several current models that could serve as good equivalents or upgrades to the Archer C1200. Here are a few suggestions:
TP-Link Archer A6/C6: The Archer A6 (or C6 in some regions) is a great alternative, offering similar features to the C1200, such as dual-band AC1200 speeds, which are suitable for most home networking needs. It also supports MU-MIMO technology for better performance in environments with multiple devices.
TP-Link Archer A7: A step up from the A6/C6, the Archer A7 offers a bit more in terms of range and performance, making it a solid choice for slightly larger homes or for users needing a bit more from their network.
TP-Link Archer AX10/AX1500: If you're interested in future-proofing your setup, you might consider moving to a Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router like the Archer AX10. Wi-Fi 6 offers improved speeds, efficiency, and capacity over the older 802.11ac (now renamed Wi-Fi 5) standard. The AX10/AX1500 is an entry-level Wi-Fi 6 router that can provide better performance, especially in environments with many connected devices.
When choosing a new router, consider the size of your space, the number of devices you'll connect, and any specific needs you might have (such as gaming, streaming, or extensive file transfers). Wi-Fi 6 routers are more future-proof and offer advantages in crowded Wi-Fi environments, but AC1200 routers like the A6/C6 or A7 are still adequate for many current needs and can be more cost-effective.
It's also a good idea to check local retailers and online stores in Chile for availability and prices, as these can vary significantly by region.
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Pls is there any cheap way to connect my camera with HDMI output to a ndi network? I tried using the HDMI extender but its not working. Thanks
are you talking about a camera or a PC you want to connect to a NDI Network? for a Camera you need a not so cheap converter. for a PC you just need the NDI toolset whitch is free.
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Connecting an HDMI camera to an NDI (Network Device Interface) network on a budget can be a bit challenging due to the need for hardware or software that converts the HDMI signal into NDI. This conversion is necessary because HDMI is a physical connection standard for transferring video (and audio) signals, while NDI is a network protocol designed for transporting video over IP networks. Here are a few budget-conscious options you might consider:
1. Use a Dedicated HDMI to NDI Converter
There are dedicated hardware converters that can take an HDMI input and convert it to an NDI stream. While some of these converters can be expensive, there are budget options available from brands like BirdDog, Kiloview, and Magewell. Prices vary, but you might find some entry-level models that fit your budget.
2. Software Solutions with Capture Cards
If you already have a computer and an HDMI capture card (or a USB capture device), you can use software to convert the video feed from your camera into an NDI stream. Software like OBS Studio (free) can capture HDMI input through the capture card and then use an NDI plugin to output the video over your network as NDI. This solution requires a computer but might be cost-effective if you already have the necessary hardware.
OBS Studio: Free software for video recording and live streaming that supports NDI through a plugin.
NDI Tools: NewTek provides a free software package called NDI Tools that includes NDI Virtual Input. This tool can take a variety of video inputs (including those captured by OBS) and convert them to NDI.
3. Consider Lower-Cost Alternatives
While not ideal, exploring other low-cost or DIY solutions might provide a temporary fix. For example, some community projects or less-known brands might offer more affordable converters, though reliability and support could be issues.
4. Check Compatibility and Network Setup
Before investing in any hardware or software solution, ensure that your camera’s HDMI output is compatible with the capture device or converter you plan to use. Additionally, ensure your network setup is capable of handling NDI video streams, as NDI can be bandwidth-intensive, especially at higher resolutions and frame rates.
Practical Considerations
Quality and Latency: While budget solutions can be effective, they might not offer the same quality or low latency as more expensive professional gear. Assess your needs to determine if a budget solution will meet your expectations.
Network Requirements: NDI requires a robust network infrastructure, especially if you plan to use multiple NDI sources simultaneously. Ensure your network can handle the bandwidth and has proper QoS (Quality of Service) configurations to prioritize video traffic.
By exploring these options and considering your current setup and requirements, you should be able to find a solution that allows you to integrate your HDMI camera into an NDI network without breaking the bank.
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if your not sending any video out to the internet do you need the archer?
Hi Steve, there are certainly others that will work. We wanted to make a video about one that is really easy to use and affordable. If you have little experience with networking and routers, this is a great one to learn on. Yes, there are much more expensive and powerful systems available. But this will work.
@@PTZOptics I simply meant if you arent live streaming and instead just sending all video to a recording card or in house displays, is there even a need for a router?
@@stevegorczyk3133 - You can get away without one. But, it's not recommended for a bunch of reasons. It's so cheap it's worth it for many reasons including discovery and DHCP. But, yes, you could set static IP addresses for everything and go from there.
@@PTZOptics that's useful thank you
We use a net gear and linkus
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1.25x playback speed made this video perfffect
I'm glad RUclips has this feature. Do you think we should make our videos faster?
Ubiquiti, sonicwall and Intellinet
Which one do you use Chris? We have Ubiquiti network switches at our office for NDI
Well we have been using Ubiquity for WiFi. We use an 8 port POE+ Gigabit switch from Intellinet for our wired connections. So far so good.
We've only got wifi at the moment.
Did it work with only the router
@@odudumh yeah, we've been using ndi from our presentation computer
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Thank you
I am still trying to configure my router to see live feed from another computer.
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only wifi
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