One thing I didn't say in the video is that in OBS when you add the NDI source, you can select "Audio Only" under the Bandwidth option. This hasn't worked very well for me (why I didn't mention it in the video), but go ahead and give it a try. It could mean sending a lot less data over your network.
This video saved me from finishing off the little hair I have left on my head. I have been working almost nonstop for a week now trying to accomplish getting my audio from Reaper into my livestreaming computer which I use VMIX instead of OBS. I felt like if I could figure out how to get my VMIX desktop capture on my DAW computer to see the output from Reaper then getting it to my livestream computer would be easy, which it was. The Voxengo plugin was my missing piece of software. Once I installed that everything fell into place. So Thank you!!
With the release of NDI 5, DAW integration has just become much easier. NDI 5 comes with a VST plugin that lets you input and output individual tracks from and to NDI.
I’m glad you mentioned a Voxengo VST. Elephant is one of if not my favorite mastering plug-in I use. Props for mentioning them, really all their plugins are excellent! If you don’t use them check them out, you won’t be disappointed
Excellent Video. Thank you! As Derick McWilliams said in above comment, it takes a long way to be ready to understand (and want) to make a project like this, and this information it´s just what we need. Cheers!
For what it's worth, NewTek's NDI 6, which was just recently released comes with a VST plugin that directly supports NDI (up to 16 channels), which VASTLY simplifies this setup.
For simple setups and small to medium size churches, You can also route audio for live streaming through an audio interface that has loop back function capabilities such as the Motu M4 audio interface.
Thanks Stephen! I got this working with Studio One 4 Professional and XSplit Broadcaster. Jbridge converted the Voxengo plugin to 64bit and I installed NDI Tools on my streaming PC. The Reaper solution looks interesting but XSplit does not support VST.
thank you! very detailed instruction. do you have a video using Soundcraft SI IMPACT, iMAC (streaming computer), mac book pro(logic mixing), Logic and wirecast (streaming software)?
Fantastic video - thank you. Is there a Mac equivalent of the Voxengo recording plug-in since it appears to be Windows only? Soundflower or Loopback perhaps? Thanks!
You don't know how glad I am founding your video, this is exactly what i'm looking for my church. We are using x32 for FOH and trying to figure out on how using DAW for separate live streaming mixing feeding to OBS. I have one question, we plan to buy blackmagic atem mini pro as dedicated video switching and also streamer unit sooner to replace the obs. How the configuration will change if use Atem instead of OBS. Thank you so much for the video.. God bless you 👍👍😁
You'll just need to find a way to get your audio out of your DAW back to analog to input in to the Mini Pro. You can route it back to the x32 and use outputs from the x32 to send to the Mini Pro.
Hi @Ballast Media This video is really helpful to me as a beginner. I just have a question though regarding connection of camera. I am using a Lumix G7 camera which requires a capture card to have a clean live video output. with that, where am I supposed to insert the capture card in the diagram ( Computer --- AJA U-tap SDI --- HDMItoSDI ---- Camera) ?
Hello Steven, I must say i like your video as it is very informative and has lots of info to learn from. I do have a question though. How can i route my Church's sound board (Behringer Wing) to a DAW then use the DAW's PC audio output to send the sound to our live streaming computer which runs Wirecast 13? For a long time now we have been routing the audio from our board through an AUX send to an interface to feed the audio to our live stream PC but we want to do things much better by routing the audio to a DAW and possibly using the DAW as a seperate mixer for the live stream if that is possible? I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks, Bernard
A couple options, depends on how you are sending audio to the DAW from your Wing. If you are just using USB from the Wing to the DAW, you could route the mixed audio from the DAW back to the Wing, and route that to a physical output of the Wing to send to your stream. If you use Reaper, you could also use ReaStream to send the audio from the DAW over the network to the computer that is streaming (you'd need to install the ReaPlugs pack on that computer and insert the ReaStream plugin in to Wirecast. OR, I think the best way is to use Dante to send channels out from your Wing to the DAW, and then you can use Dante to route mixed audio to your streaming computer.
@@BallastMedia Currently i have the wing routing the main out to an aux out which then sends the signal to an interface then the interface sends the signal to our streaming computer. What i'd like to do is send each channel being used from the wing to the DAW so that we can mix it live on the DAW then send that live mix to our streaming PC.
I'm not sure about livestream studio, I don't know how they handle other audio sources, but I'm sure if you poke around enough you'll find a way to do it. You can always use something like the audinate AVIO (amzn.to/3aZBSa7) to output your mix from the DAW to Dante and send it to whatever device you need to.
This is a great video with lots of info. Any chance there could be a new one, as there seem to be more options now, 2 years later. I like pro tools but it is a different to get the sound from the desk top into OBS or Streamlabs OBS, which is now on mac as well/
Really good stuff! Just want to ask, can I simultaneously use the x32 for our FOH mix and use the usb out for the independent livestream mix using a DAW?
Which is the best option for the following: PC 1 has an audio interface + microphone + daw PC 2 has an app like Zoom where I want viewers to hear PC 1's DAW/microphone
Cool Video, but my Problem is, that the PC with the DAW is also the streaming PC. How can i bringt the Dante Mix out if ProTools in vMix without another PC?
Hey brother, God bless you and thank you for revolutionizing church a/v. Question: Do both computers need to have Dante controller and virtual sound card?
Dante Controller only needs to be installed on one computer to setup and make configuration changes to your Dante network. Once things are configured properly you don't even need to run Dante Controller. You do need some sort of Dante interface on each computer, yes. If you aren't using many channels you can use DVS on the computer mixing, but I've found that adding too many channels that way really taxes the system because the CPU has to process the audio channels coming in through the network port. DVS will work just fine to bring in the stereo mix in to your computer that is streaming.
Thanks for this video . Is there a way you can make a video if you are using AVB. This has been one of the only videos that I have seen with such a good detail step by step for using a daw computer and a live stream computer . But I can’t download Dante virtual sound card because we use studio one and have a presonus mixer using an AVB network. Obs is not on our live stream computer is not seeing the audio from our DAW. So we are currently going out of the headphone jack of the digiface on the daw into the back of the computer in that tiny 8mm mic input of the live stream. I just ordered a cheap interface for our live stream where the plan is to still go out of the headphone jack , but it will go out of headphone jack via trs, into the interface of live stream with split ts into channels one and two. I hope this works . Any suggestions would be appreciated .
I've found some better ways to route audio on the network since this video, I need to make an updated video about it! Are you on a PC or Mac for your DAW and OBS computer? If you are on a PC, you can install the plugin ReaRoute from Reaper (you don't install Reaper, you go to their website and install their free Reaplugs pack of plugins to get ReaRoute). Then you can use ReaRoute in the DAW and in OBS to transmit the audio over your network between the two machines. (You'll also need to install the ASIO plugin for OBS, as ReaRoute creates an ASIO audio device on your computer to do the routing)
I know this is an old video, but I've referenced it several times over the last year. Thanks for the helpful content. Question for you. I'd like to tweak your recommended Dante DAW setup a bit and would appreciate your thoughts. We use a single X32 for FOH and livestream mixing currently, but would like to offload the livestream mixing to a DAW. We currently have the X-USB card in the X32 connecting to a ProPresenter iMac via USB. I'd like use Dante to connect to a DAW in a soundproofed studio about a 100 ft away. Without buying the X-Dante card for the X32, what about installing the Dante Virtual Sound card in both the iMac next to the X32 and the DAW in the remote studio. The audio input path would be something like X32--(USB link)--->iMac---(Dante)--->DAW. The DAW mix return/output path would be, DAW--(Dante)-->iMac--(USB link)-->X32--(XLR out)-->ATEM Video Switcher--(SDI)-->Video Encoder. If this worked, it would be a pretty cheap way of transporting multi-channel audio via Dante. Sorry for the long comment, but appreciate your thoughts! Take care!
My first thought would be 1.you might run in to latency issues with the additional hop in there and 2. You're going a second level of device to fail and cause an issue. But my 3rd thought is, try it and see if it works!
Will usb extender work with Presonus Studiolive 32 ? Cos the Studiolive doesn't have dante but rather AVB which can't send the mix into a regular switch
I did this to OBS without any NDI, once you start the DAW and Voxengo OBS will detect the Audio from the DAW since it’s playing on the desktop just make sure the desktop Audio in OBS is set to default...
Man it seems stupid having to jump through hoops like this. I wish more companies would make easier solutions. I'm trying to use Restream from Reaper but I'm not getting any signal back in OBS. Any idea why this could be? Thanks!
hello mr ballast, nice to see your videos, i use an avid s6l console and it works at 96khz uses avb audio, if i can send this to the pc, the obs works at 48khz, do i have problems with this? I have this question about the sample rate ... what would be the best option for me? use avb at 96 khz, or send analog L.R through an interface to convert to 48khz?
We have been going from our X32 straight to our Blackmagic Design ATEM Television Studio HD Live Production Switcher and using our house mix for online, but now we want to go from X32 to a computer with Ableton on it and our into an interface and then out of the interface to a direct box then to the ATEM with XLR, but the ATEM is not picking up the audio. Any reason why?
I have a couple of questions. 1st: if your FOH engineer changes the gain level on the console does that make the signal on your broadcast computer louder? 2nd: How do you control the gain coming into your DAW for mixing?
Yes, the FOH board has control of gain. With proper gain structure and a proper sound check, you really shouldn't need to change gain much during the show. The DAW technically doesn't have any gain control, although there are several plugins with volume output controls that I'll use to set a different level in the channel if I need something different then what the house is using. But by and large this is a lot less of a problem in practice then you would think.
Ballast Media I see. I have a FOH guy that doesn’t really understand gain structure and likes to think gain is just another volume knob. It’s very frustrating. Any advice on how to deal with that? I want to implement this system but don’t want this guy to be changing gain all the time and messing up everything on our broadcast
Hey I have Yamaha MG32/14fx as FOH mixer and trying to split the channels to stream in Wirecast. I try using an output to a mixer and then to the ATEM switcher but it doesn’t sound good please if you can help a lot for our church. God bless you much. I like how you explain everything
Stephen, not sure if it was in this video, or another, but you said you would address routing audio from the DAW directly to the OSB ( we use Blackmagic TV HD) without the use of a network. The Blackmagic has L/R XLR inputs for audio. Do I simply use Voxengo and a D/A converter? Or route the Voxengo output to a camera audio input? or ??? Thanks for the help.
Best way over a network is Reaper's built in plugin called Reastream. You'll have to install the Reaper stand alone plugin pack, you can download from their website, on the computer running OBS. Then add the Reastream plugin to the output bus in reaper and set it to transmit, and add the Reastream plugin to any active audio device in OBS and set it to receive.
Or, if your channels are coming direct from your mixer, like from its USB port, route your channels back to the mixer and use an output from the mixer to go to the switcher.
So, noob question: couldn't I use Voxengo Recorder to output the master (or what other bus) to my "Speaker/Headphones Out" (or any other output, even Virtual Audio Cable's line) and send it into OBS, using the NDI filter "Dedicated NDI"? Seems like less trouble than sending it through vMix.
Hey Steven. I just recently started getting some bad cracking in reaper during my live stream. It’s been solid for 3 months. Now all of a sudden crackling. Sample rates haven’t changed.
Hello sir, thanks for the tutorial. Please how can I get the NDI plugin for OBS? I tried downloading it following the link you gave but the site is not available. Please any help or update on this? Thanks.
Hi, my church are using A&H QU 16. I'm planning to project this set up to help me improve the live stream audio quality. Right now I do have a streaming Computer, sent the OBS NDI Output, to the ProPresenter Computer because it has multiple output card on it, so it could help the worship team to see what really happen in the live stream also to help them see the lyric (at the monitor) using a NDI Studio Monitor. My question is, do the NDI audio send from DAW Computer (3rd Computer) to streaming computer would need a lot of bandwidth at it? because I don't want to have a drop frames in OBS. The streaming computer are a laptop with AMD Rayzen 5 with 16GB RAM. By the way I don't use USB output from QU 16 to my streaming computer since I don't find any solution out there to connect it in OBS, so I just take a Aux out from the QU to another Behringer 308 USB Mixer, and works fine, just the not the quality I hope for. God Bless. *sorry for long post english are not my first language
Excellent video. I do have a question. We are currently running Dante thru our existing network. I’m mixing the live stream in my office using a Mac and Logic Pro. I need to get the final mix back to our streaming computer that is using ecamm. Any thoughts on how I would accomplish this? Nothing stands out so far.
Is the streaming computer on the same network as your Logic Pro computer? You could run DVS (Dante Virtual Soundcard) on the ecamm computer and route the audio over dante back to that computer.
@@BallastMedia Yes...it's all on the same network. My issue is how do I get the logic mix back to the streaming computer over Dante? Should I use Dante Via?
@@coreyfranklinmurphymusic Just use Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS) on the streaming computer. DVS acts like a sound card on the computer, but get's its inputs from Dante.
I usually use Windows computers for streaming because it's a whole lot cheaper. If you are more comfortable with mac, use that. Either will do just fine. Just get an i7 processor with 16GB of ram. Also, an NVidia graphics cards is nice if you plan to use OBS for streaming because it can off load the encoding to the graphics card.
Here is my set up: 1) X32 Mixer with Dante Card. 2) Windows PC with Virtual Sound Card for mixing in Studio One. This PC is also used to send audio to FOH using ProPresenter. 3) McBook Pro with Dante Via for streaming with OBS. My question: Can the Windows PC share drivers between Studio One and ProPresenter so they both can output audio at the same time?
I don't believe DVS will work in multiple programs at the same time, you'd need to go to VIA for that. On a deeper issue though, I wouldn't be running Studio One to mix audio and running Pro Presenter on the same computer, you're asking for a hiccup. Those should be single use machines.
@@BallastMedia You are right. Is best not to use the same machine for both tasks. I have another MacBook Pro I can use to mix with Studio One and a bunch of Waves Plugins we have. Also, we have an X32 Rack we can use to mix the sound for the stream. What do you think would be best?
Best way is to send your mix from the DAW back out on Dante and use a device like this (amzn.to/2UTTEG6) to take audio out of Dante to your speakers for monitoring.
If your computer running pro-tools is sitting next to your streaming computer, do you need to run things over the network? Couldn't you just run over an aux cord?
Thank you so much. Thanks to your videos we have our livestream setup in a separate room. Everything is working perfectly. We have the Behringer x32 and we are using the x32’s usb to get audio to another computer. On this computer We are using Logic Pro X to create the livestream mix. This computer is connected to an audio usb box which is how we are getting sound to our studio monitors. The only thing we are experimenting with is sending audio to OBS. The audio usb box has a headphone out line. Could we not just run a line from this headphone out and into the computer that is running obs? The computer running obs is a Mac and we do have option to switch its headphone Jack from an output to an input. Is this a bad idea?? Will the quality be diminished doing it this way? Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the very useful video! But I have a question: I also use REAPER and I am streaming virtual instruments (piano livestream cuz virtual piano's sound so nice these days). I use reastream to obs in an asio input but if i mute my reaper master track so that I can only hear the obs received audio i notice a bit latency (20-25 ms) which is just a little to high. Would dante be a better option than reastream? Kind regards and keep up the good videos!
@@BallastMedia Well this was a great idea, I did a recording with a video and played some notes and my fingers and the audio were perfectly in sync! I guess my viewers see the same as my obs recordings? Then its solved! Thankyou and greetings from Belgium
Great video, but I have some problems, I hope you really answer me I need to solve them . Ok 1. When I go to the "mme device" options in the voxengo recorder "Microsoft sound mapper" does not appear. I am Latin and I am using a translator to comment, sorry for the inconsistencies HELP!
Is there an encoder/module that can take my multi-channel audio from my digital mixer and send it out over NDI? I'm trying to avoid adding another computer to our media centre.
How do u control the level of sound sent from the console through Dante coming into ur daw so the stems are all at a similar level coming in? Is there a way to adjust this in ur daw or do u do have to do this from your console? It’s just somewhat confusing not using a normal interface to adjust gain for stems from a direct input and our console is a distance from the live stream computer so measuring stems running back and forth doesn’t seem like a practical solution..
We use QU24=> usb-B => Reaper => OBS on the same PC. The audio from Reaper to OBS is sent through ReaRouter. We get a "robotic sound" interference frequently. I am planning to use the NDI setup that you have in the video. Will this eliminate the "noise"?
No, actually the way you are doing it through ReaRoute is probably the better method on the same computer. What is your CPU usage at in Reaper and OBS?
@@BallastMedia CPU usage is not much, I will check tonight during band practice. Can I send you a clip of the noise so you can advice what could be wrong?
I use Reaper's built in vst called Reastream to the OBS streaming computer. It's free and works well. It also works with any daw. You don't need Dante or NDI.
I am running Logic Pro X in My iMac. How Can I Route My Audio From iMac To my Streaming PC ? I Am Able To complete till VMix Desktop Capture For Mac But After that VOXENGO is not available for PC. Help Me Please !!
We are using Dante to send mix to OBS and we hear the audio great on the computer however the stream is silent. While trying to trouble shoot I set every aux channel in OBS to Dante and finally go audio on the stream by setting OBS Aux 4 to Dante. Any idea why?
So I have a X32 and this is something I’m definitely interested in doing but the livestream studio is far from my front oh house mixer so I cannot run a USB? How can I do this
Hi Steven, we’re using a Canon XA11 and running it they the Atem Mini, we’re also running a mix from a QU16 into the Atem Mini and streaming thru an iMac. Our sound is terrible in the live stream during P&W. We’re streaming with only the Atem, should we run it thru OBS or another program before we stream? Is a DAW necessary? Thank you!
Have you listened to what's coming out of the Qu16 for your mix that you are sending to the stream? In other words, just running it through OBS isn't going to fix a bad mix. If you want to send me an example in messenger on my facebook page, I can take a listen and give you some feedback. Just click the facebook link in the description of the video above, and click "Send Message"
Ballast Media yes, it was a mix that was coming out in a stage monitor and we redirected that mix straight from the QU16 to the stream. I’ve been deleting the P&W after the service and just leaving the sermon but I will send you a link as soon as I can find one. Thank you so much!!!!
Hi Steven, So I’m using Pro Tools and would love to switch to Reaper but the resources I have only know Pro Tools (PT) That being said PT doesn’t support VST plugins, I found that I might be able to use Blue Cat Audio Patch Work $100 PT plugin to run VST plugins on PT. Also, I was planning to use Vmix instead of OBS and the latest version only supports VST3 plugins. Based on this above which route do you recommend for passing the audio to the stream PC? I’m getting the Audio into PT via USB from our Presonus board, I can’t use Dante with the Presonus Studio Live Series 3 and my PC doesn’t have an AvB Ethernet Card. Thanks for your time and help.
Can you run your final mix back out the USB to the presonus board and use a hardware output there to route it to a simple 2 channel audio capture device in to your streaming computer?
Ballast Media We should, the brother from church mentioned we almost max out on the 32 channels so I guess we would need to leave some space for the digital returns
Hey! I need help! I’m using the USB HOST to send the tracks. But my church is setting up our live streaming Broadcast room and it’s about 50ft away from the sound console. How can send the tracks to that room using the usb host. I’m using the Yamaha ft5
Best long term solution will be to put in the Dante expansion card in the TF5 and run your audio to the broadcast room over cat cable and a Dante network. You can try using USB extenders over cat cable, but don't cheap out, most of them will give you trouble with sustained throughput of data.
Check out my newest series on mixing in a daw with Dante: ruclips.net/video/dKVooCnI-_U/видео.htmlsi=xPel9VDC9UuD1ky5 Short answer is you can keep the latency below a frame or two.
Please someone help me here.? in our livestream setup for our church I have the "reaper" DAW connected to our behringer x32 but I dont know how to output the audio from reaper to our iPad with Switcher Studio
I'm not real familiar with Switcher Studio, but how are you getting audio from the x32 to Reaper? Your best bet may be to get an audio interface for the iPad, but I'm not sure what capabilities Switcher Studio has for bringing in audio.
@@BallastMedia I use Studio One for this and it doesn't seem to be able to find the Voxengo Recorder plug in. Studio One also doesn't appear to have this option that Reaper has. Any suggestions on an alternate method or why this method isn't working through Studio One?
If I'm using Dante, and I route the mix output from the DAW to the streaming computer via Dante controller, how do I get audio to my studio monitors if the audio from the DAW is routed to the streaming computer? Hope my question makes sense.
Probably the simplest way is to also route your mix output on Dante to something like this amzn.to/3dgdWCB (Just be aware you need a POE Dante switch to power these) and then you can send audio to a pair of studio monitors, or even to a small mixer that will let you send to speaker or headphones (amzn.to/3xV088y)
Hello Doug Lukas, do you already have a solution for your comment? We have a Dante M Card in the Mixer. Then we made in ProTools the Mixing. Now i want output the mix direct in vMix for the Livestream. When i go back in the Dante Network, i can't import the audio in vMix.
I got the scheps omni channel not long ago and really like it but my old favorites are the c4 and cla-2a cla-76. I have an impact server I run on my personal rig as well.
Cool, I'll have to check out the Omni Channel, haven't tried that one yet. Most recent plugin I've really been liking is the CLA Master Bus on my main mix, just adds "something" that makes it sound better. I've got an Extreme Server setup at our FOH with a dLive, really nice combo. I have found that I'm using the onboard Dyna8 (multiband compressor and multiband EQ) more now on my channels then the C4/C6, but those are always favorites!
If you are using Reaper as your DAW, I'd use ReaRoute. Add a ReaRoute output to your mix bus, and then add a ReaRoute ASIO device in your streaming software and you can receive the audio from Reaper.
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One thing I didn't say in the video is that in OBS when you add the NDI source, you can select "Audio Only" under the Bandwidth option. This hasn't worked very well for me (why I didn't mention it in the video), but go ahead and give it a try. It could mean sending a lot less data over your network.
I'm finally at a point where I'm ready for this level of thinking. Thank you for taking the time to advance the Kingdom of God! Thanks Man!
This video saved me from finishing off the little hair I have left on my head. I have been working almost nonstop for a week now trying to accomplish getting my audio from Reaper into my livestreaming computer which I use VMIX instead of OBS. I felt like if I could figure out how to get my VMIX desktop capture on my DAW computer to see the output from Reaper then getting it to my livestream computer would be easy, which it was. The Voxengo plugin was my missing piece of software. Once I installed that everything fell into place. So Thank you!!
With the release of NDI 5, DAW integration has just become much easier. NDI 5 comes with a VST plugin that lets you input and output individual tracks from and to NDI.
I’m glad you mentioned a Voxengo VST. Elephant is one of if not my favorite mastering plug-in I use. Props for mentioning them, really all their plugins are excellent! If you don’t use them check them out, you won’t be disappointed
Excellent Video. Thank you! As Derick McWilliams said in above comment, it takes a long way to be ready to understand (and want) to make a project like this, and this information it´s just what we need. Cheers!
For what it's worth, NewTek's NDI 6, which was just recently released comes with a VST plugin that directly supports NDI (up to 16 channels), which VASTLY simplifies this setup.
Ok you have demonstrated using OBS, can you advise on how you can connect monitor speakers in this setup
Thanks for this in-depth setup and walk through . 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
For simple setups and small to medium size churches, You can also route audio for live streaming through an audio interface that has loop back function capabilities such as the Motu M4 audio interface.
Wait so I don't need to buy software separately if I have a yamaha tf-1
That video for the delay is brilliant thank you!
Thanks Stephen! I got this working with Studio One 4 Professional and XSplit Broadcaster. Jbridge converted the Voxengo plugin to 64bit and I installed NDI Tools on my streaming PC. The Reaper solution looks interesting but XSplit does not support VST.
DANTE is a very good IP Audio solution! I'm working on the design of DANTE audio.
This is super useful! Just the thing I needed. so much thank u
This video is mostly obsolete.. Anybody looking to go the NDI route, just download & use vMix.
thank you! very detailed instruction.
do you have a video using Soundcraft SI IMPACT, iMAC (streaming computer), mac book pro(logic mixing), Logic and wirecast (streaming software)?
Awesome video, well explained. I learned a lot. Thank you. Rob
Fantastic video - thank you. Is there a Mac equivalent of the Voxengo recording plug-in since it appears to be Windows only? Soundflower or Loopback perhaps? Thanks!
You don't know how glad I am founding your video, this is exactly what i'm looking for my church. We are using x32 for FOH and trying to figure out on how using DAW for separate live streaming mixing feeding to OBS. I have one question, we plan to buy blackmagic atem mini pro as dedicated video switching and also streamer unit sooner to replace the obs. How the configuration will change if use Atem instead of OBS. Thank you so much for the video.. God bless you 👍👍😁
You'll just need to find a way to get your audio out of your DAW back to analog to input in to the Mini Pro. You can route it back to the x32 and use outputs from the x32 to send to the Mini Pro.
@@BallastMedia , thanks for replying Steven.. definitely will try the route back configuration.
Hi @Ballast Media
This video is really helpful to me as a beginner.
I just have a question though regarding connection of camera.
I am using a Lumix G7 camera which requires a capture card to have a clean live video output.
with that, where am I supposed to insert the capture card in the diagram ( Computer --- AJA U-tap SDI --- HDMItoSDI ---- Camera) ?
How do you monitor/mix the sound in your DAW machine? How do you hear what you are mixing irt?
Excellent information Stephen much appreciated cheers sandy
Hello Steven,
I must say i like your video as it is very informative and has lots of info to learn from. I do have a question though. How can i route my Church's sound board (Behringer Wing) to a DAW then use the DAW's PC audio output to send the sound to our live streaming computer which runs Wirecast 13? For a long time now we have been routing the audio from our board through an AUX send to an interface to feed the audio to our live stream PC but we want to do things much better by routing the audio to a DAW and possibly using the DAW as a seperate mixer for the live stream if that is possible? I appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks,
Bernard
A couple options, depends on how you are sending audio to the DAW from your Wing. If you are just using USB from the Wing to the DAW, you could route the mixed audio from the DAW back to the Wing, and route that to a physical output of the Wing to send to your stream. If you use Reaper, you could also use ReaStream to send the audio from the DAW over the network to the computer that is streaming (you'd need to install the ReaPlugs pack on that computer and insert the ReaStream plugin in to Wirecast. OR, I think the best way is to use Dante to send channels out from your Wing to the DAW, and then you can use Dante to route mixed audio to your streaming computer.
@@BallastMedia Currently i have the wing routing the main out to an aux out which then sends the signal to an interface then the interface sends the signal to our streaming computer. What i'd like to do is send each channel being used from the wing to the DAW so that we can mix it live on the DAW then send that live mix to our streaming PC.
Steven, that video was awesome and helpful. We are using Dante. Will everything you explained for OBS also work with Livestream Studio?
I'm not sure about livestream studio, I don't know how they handle other audio sources, but I'm sure if you poke around enough you'll find a way to do it. You can always use something like the audinate AVIO (amzn.to/3aZBSa7) to output your mix from the DAW to Dante and send it to whatever device you need to.
This is a great video with lots of info. Any chance there could be a new one, as there seem to be more options now, 2 years later. I like pro tools but it is a different to get the sound from the desk top into OBS or Streamlabs OBS, which is now on mac as well/
Try Reastream. There are videos on RUclips that explain how. It's not as complex as Dante or NDI. It's also free and works with any modern daw
Really good stuff! Just want to ask, can I simultaneously use the x32 for our FOH mix and use the usb out for the independent livestream mix using a DAW?
Yes, just route Direct Outputs from all your channels to the USB output.
@@BallastMedia Thank you very much!
Awesome help! Thank You!
Fantastic video. Many thanks !
Hi! Any updated version of this setup (non-Dante)? Can you please try to make a video using Cocker restream (via network transmission)? Thanks
Just wondering how were you using both the Qu32 and Audio Interface in Reaper? Asio4all?
Thanks for right guidance
Can I use NDI wirelessly or does both pc have to be plugged directly to the router with an Ethernet cable?
Which is the best option for the following:
PC 1 has an audio interface + microphone + daw
PC 2 has an app like Zoom where I want viewers to hear PC 1's DAW/microphone
Thank you so much! This was very helpful!
Cool Video, but my Problem is, that the PC with the DAW is also the streaming PC. How can i bringt the Dante Mix out if ProTools in vMix without another PC?
Hey brother, God bless you and thank you for revolutionizing church a/v. Question: Do both computers need to have Dante controller and virtual sound card?
Dante Controller only needs to be installed on one computer to setup and make configuration changes to your Dante network. Once things are configured properly you don't even need to run Dante Controller. You do need some sort of Dante interface on each computer, yes. If you aren't using many channels you can use DVS on the computer mixing, but I've found that adding too many channels that way really taxes the system because the CPU has to process the audio channels coming in through the network port. DVS will work just fine to bring in the stereo mix in to your computer that is streaming.
Excellent, much appreciated
Thank you for ur Explanation
Thanks for this video . Is there a way you can make a video if you are using AVB. This has been one of the only videos that I have seen with such a good detail step by step for using a daw computer and a live stream computer . But I can’t download Dante virtual sound card because we use studio one and have a presonus mixer using an AVB network. Obs is not on our live stream computer is not seeing the audio from our DAW. So we are currently going out of the headphone jack of the digiface on the daw into the back of the computer in that tiny 8mm mic input of the live stream. I just ordered a cheap interface for our live stream where the plan is to still go out of the headphone jack , but it will go out of headphone jack via trs, into the interface of live stream with split ts into channels one and two. I hope this works . Any suggestions would be appreciated .
I've found some better ways to route audio on the network since this video, I need to make an updated video about it! Are you on a PC or Mac for your DAW and OBS computer? If you are on a PC, you can install the plugin ReaRoute from Reaper (you don't install Reaper, you go to their website and install their free Reaplugs pack of plugins to get ReaRoute). Then you can use ReaRoute in the DAW and in OBS to transmit the audio over your network between the two machines. (You'll also need to install the ASIO plugin for OBS, as ReaRoute creates an ASIO audio device on your computer to do the routing)
Wow. Outstanding!
Is it the same setup for NDI ON a Mac using logic ? I know in logic you can set a separate out
I know this is an old video, but I've referenced it several times over the last year. Thanks for the helpful content. Question for you. I'd like to tweak your recommended Dante DAW setup a bit and would appreciate your thoughts. We use a single X32 for FOH and livestream mixing currently, but would like to offload the livestream mixing to a DAW. We currently have the X-USB card in the X32 connecting to a ProPresenter iMac via USB. I'd like use Dante to connect to a DAW in a soundproofed studio about a 100 ft away. Without buying the X-Dante card for the X32, what about installing the Dante Virtual Sound card in both the iMac next to the X32 and the DAW in the remote studio. The audio input path would be something like X32--(USB link)--->iMac---(Dante)--->DAW. The DAW mix return/output path would be, DAW--(Dante)-->iMac--(USB link)-->X32--(XLR out)-->ATEM Video Switcher--(SDI)-->Video Encoder. If this worked, it would be a pretty cheap way of transporting multi-channel audio via Dante. Sorry for the long comment, but appreciate your thoughts! Take care!
My first thought would be 1.you might run in to latency issues with the additional hop in there and 2. You're going a second level of device to fail and cause an issue. But my 3rd thought is, try it and see if it works!
Will usb extender work with Presonus Studiolive 32 ? Cos the Studiolive doesn't have dante but rather AVB which can't send the mix into a regular switch
HOW DO YOU SEND THE ZOOM GUEST AUDIO TO THE NETWORK THROUGH DANTE WHERE GUEST AND PRESENTER BOTH CAN COMMUNICATE.THANKS
I did this to OBS without any NDI, once you start the DAW and Voxengo OBS will detect the Audio from the DAW since it’s playing on the desktop just make sure the desktop Audio in OBS is set to default...
Interesting, so you're running the DAW and OBS on the same computer?
Man it seems stupid having to jump through hoops like this. I wish more companies would make easier solutions. I'm trying to use Restream from Reaper but I'm not getting any signal back in OBS. Any idea why this could be? Thanks!
hello mr ballast, nice to see your videos, i use an avid s6l console and it works at 96khz uses avb audio, if i can send this to the pc, the obs works at 48khz, do i have problems with this? I have this question about the sample rate ... what would be the best option for me? use avb at 96 khz, or send analog L.R through an interface to convert to 48khz?
We have been going from our X32 straight to our Blackmagic Design ATEM Television Studio HD Live Production Switcher and using our house mix for online, but now we want to go from X32 to a computer with Ableton on it and our into an interface and then out of the interface to a direct box then to the ATEM with XLR, but the ATEM is not picking up the audio. Any reason why?
I have a couple of questions. 1st: if your FOH engineer changes the gain level on the console does that make the signal on your broadcast computer louder? 2nd: How do you control the gain coming into your DAW for mixing?
Yes, the FOH board has control of gain. With proper gain structure and a proper sound check, you really shouldn't need to change gain much during the show. The DAW technically doesn't have any gain control, although there are several plugins with volume output controls that I'll use to set a different level in the channel if I need something different then what the house is using. But by and large this is a lot less of a problem in practice then you would think.
Ballast Media I see. I have a FOH guy that doesn’t really understand gain structure and likes to think gain is just another volume knob. It’s very frustrating. Any advice on how to deal with that? I want to implement this system but don’t want this guy to be changing gain all the time and messing up everything on our broadcast
Hey I have Yamaha MG32/14fx as FOH mixer and trying to split the channels to stream in Wirecast. I try using an output to a mixer and then to the ATEM switcher but it doesn’t sound good please if you can help a lot for our church. God bless you much. I like how you explain everything
Do you have an aux out available on the board?
Yes I do
I did how you can explained on the other video but it still doesn’t sound good
Dante card is installed on the streaming computer. I want to use Spotify that is on this computer to the stream
Stephen, not sure if it was in this video, or another, but you said you would address routing audio from the DAW directly to the OSB ( we use Blackmagic TV HD) without the use of a network. The Blackmagic has L/R XLR inputs for audio. Do I simply use Voxengo and a D/A converter? Or route the Voxengo output to a camera audio input? or ??? Thanks for the help.
Best way over a network is Reaper's built in plugin called Reastream. You'll have to install the Reaper stand alone plugin pack, you can download from their website, on the computer running OBS. Then add the Reastream plugin to the output bus in reaper and set it to transmit, and add the Reastream plugin to any active audio device in OBS and set it to receive.
Sorry to be difficult, but I was hoping for solution that does not use a network.
@@brianmills4573 how are you getting channels in to your daw for mixing? Dante? Use the audinate avio to route your mix out. amzn.to/3bAHYh6
Or, if your channels are coming direct from your mixer, like from its USB port, route your channels back to the mixer and use an output from the mixer to go to the switcher.
So, noob question: couldn't I use Voxengo Recorder to output the master (or what other bus) to my "Speaker/Headphones Out" (or any other output, even Virtual Audio Cable's line) and send it into OBS, using the NDI filter "Dedicated NDI"? Seems like less trouble than sending it through vMix.
Hey Steven. I just recently started getting some bad cracking in reaper during my live stream. It’s been solid for 3 months. Now all of a sudden crackling. Sample rates haven’t changed.
Usually it starts to crackle when the CPU is overloaded. Have you added some more plugins recently? Try reducing the number of plugins used.
Hello sir, thanks for the tutorial. Please how can I get the NDI plugin for OBS? I tried downloading it following the link you gave but the site is not available. Please any help or update on this? Thanks.
obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-ndi-newtek-ndi%E2%84%A2-integration-into-obs-studio.528/
Do you know of a plugin that works like the voxengo but for apple?
Hi, my church are using A&H QU 16. I'm planning to project this set up to help me improve the live stream audio quality. Right now I do have a streaming Computer, sent the OBS NDI Output, to the ProPresenter Computer because it has multiple output card on it, so it could help the worship team to see what really happen in the live stream also to help them see the lyric (at the monitor) using a NDI Studio Monitor. My question is, do the NDI audio send from DAW Computer (3rd Computer) to streaming computer would need a lot of bandwidth at it? because I don't want to have a drop frames in OBS. The streaming computer are a laptop with AMD Rayzen 5 with 16GB RAM. By the way I don't use USB output from QU 16 to my streaming computer since I don't find any solution out there to connect it in OBS, so I just take a Aux out from the QU to another Behringer 308 USB Mixer, and works fine, just the not the quality I hope for. God Bless. *sorry for long post english are not my first language
Excellent video. I do have a question. We are currently running Dante thru our existing network. I’m mixing the live stream in my office using a Mac and Logic Pro. I need to get the final mix back to our streaming computer that is using ecamm. Any thoughts on how I would accomplish this? Nothing stands out so far.
Is the streaming computer on the same network as your Logic Pro computer? You could run DVS (Dante Virtual Soundcard) on the ecamm computer and route the audio over dante back to that computer.
@@BallastMedia Yes...it's all on the same network. My issue is how do I get the logic mix back to the streaming computer over Dante? Should I use Dante Via?
@@coreyfranklinmurphymusic Just use Dante Virtual Soundcard (DVS) on the streaming computer. DVS acts like a sound card on the computer, but get's its inputs from Dante.
Muito bem transmitido, simples e objetivo
Great video, can we connect the audio directly from the without a 2nd computer?
You mean directly from your front of house mixer? Using an aux output? ruclips.net/video/SBpx3cBn5U0/видео.html
Or, do you mean mix audio in a daw on the same computer you are streaming on? I wouldn't recommend that, both a pretty CPU intensive activity.
I usually use Windows computers for streaming because it's a whole lot cheaper. If you are more comfortable with mac, use that. Either will do just fine. Just get an i7 processor with 16GB of ram. Also, an NVidia graphics cards is nice if you plan to use OBS for streaming because it can off load the encoding to the graphics card.
Here is my set up:
1) X32 Mixer with Dante Card.
2) Windows PC with Virtual Sound Card for mixing in Studio One. This PC is also used to send audio to FOH using ProPresenter.
3) McBook Pro with Dante Via for streaming with OBS.
My question:
Can the Windows PC share drivers between Studio One and ProPresenter so they both can output audio at the same time?
I don't believe DVS will work in multiple programs at the same time, you'd need to go to VIA for that. On a deeper issue though, I wouldn't be running Studio One to mix audio and running Pro Presenter on the same computer, you're asking for a hiccup. Those should be single use machines.
@@BallastMedia You are right. Is best not to use the same machine for both tasks. I have another MacBook Pro I can use to mix with Studio One and a bunch of Waves Plugins we have. Also, we have an X32 Rack we can use to mix the sound for the stream. What do you think would be best?
Awesome!!! Question.... Would it work with logic pro?
It should, I've heard from one person who was struggling with lots of latency in logic, but that might have been thier hardware.
@@BallastMedia Thank you!
Ótimo vídeo parabéns
Since I'm mixing live, how will I be able to listen to what I'm mixing in my DAW through my speakers when using DANTE ?
Best way is to send your mix from the DAW back out on Dante and use a device like this (amzn.to/2UTTEG6) to take audio out of Dante to your speakers for monitoring.
NDI now has Audio Direct. Allows you to send 16 ch over network.
Yes, it will be a great solution for a lot of applications
If your computer running pro-tools is sitting next to your streaming computer, do you need to run things over the network? Couldn't you just run over an aux cord?
Whatever works! No reason you have to run over the network.
Thank you so much. Thanks to your videos we have our livestream setup in a separate room. Everything is working perfectly. We have the Behringer x32 and we are using the x32’s usb to get audio to another computer. On this computer We are using Logic Pro X to create the livestream mix. This computer is connected to an audio usb box which is how we are getting sound to our studio monitors. The only thing we are experimenting with is sending audio to OBS. The audio usb box has a headphone out line. Could we not just run a line from this headphone out and into the computer that is running obs? The computer running obs is a Mac and we do have option to switch its headphone Jack from an output to an input. Is this a bad idea?? Will the quality be diminished doing it this way? Thanks for the help!
Headphone outputs are a different level then line level, so you will likely get distortion. An actual line level output would work.
@@BallastMedia Thanks!
Thanks for the very useful video!
But I have a question: I also use REAPER and I am streaming virtual instruments (piano livestream cuz virtual piano's sound so nice these days). I use reastream to obs in an asio input but if i mute my reaper master track so that I can only hear the obs received audio i notice a bit latency (20-25 ms) which is just a little to high. Would dante be a better option than reastream?
Kind regards and keep up the good videos!
Is it actually out of sync with your video though? In other words, have you tested the sync between audio and video?
@@BallastMedia Well this was a great idea, I did a recording with a video and played some notes and my fingers and the audio were perfectly in sync! I guess my viewers see the same as my obs recordings? Then its solved!
Thankyou and greetings from Belgium
Great video, but I have some problems, I hope you really answer me I need to solve them . Ok 1. When I go to the "mme device" options in the voxengo recorder "Microsoft sound mapper" does not appear. I am Latin and I am using a translator to comment, sorry for the inconsistencies HELP!
Is there an encoder/module that can take my multi-channel audio from my digital mixer and send it out over NDI? I'm trying to avoid adding another computer to our media centre.
I know there is a Dante card for the x32 but at $1000CDN, that's a bit too steep for my church.
Hi
A solution for the mac users?
Thanks.
How do u control the level of sound sent from the console through Dante coming into ur daw so the stems are all at a similar level coming in? Is there a way to adjust this in ur daw or do u do have to do this from your console? It’s just somewhat confusing not using a normal interface to adjust gain for stems from a direct input and our console is a distance from the live stream computer so measuring stems running back and forth doesn’t seem like a practical solution..
If you have proper gain structure at the front of house console, it's actually a lot less of an issue then most people think.
The audio sent from de FOH to the DAW using DANTE is directly after the preamp?? Or it will get all the fx that i did in the FOHMIX?
Hello. Thanks for video. We have Allen&Heath dLive C3500 mixing deck. Is there any solution to create stream mix by DAW? And that are your advise?
I'd get a Dante card for the dlive. This is exactly what we do every week, check out some of my other videos on mixing with a daw.
We use QU24=> usb-B => Reaper => OBS on the same PC. The audio from Reaper to OBS is sent through ReaRouter. We get a "robotic sound" interference frequently. I am planning to use the NDI setup that you have in the video. Will this eliminate the "noise"?
No, actually the way you are doing it through ReaRoute is probably the better method on the same computer. What is your CPU usage at in Reaper and OBS?
@@BallastMedia CPU usage is not much, I will check tonight during band practice. Can I send you a clip of the noise so you can advice what could be wrong?
@@velenjanidube7525 sure, check my Facebook page in the description above and send me a message there.
@@BallastMedia I am thinking of adding a second computer, to separate the DAW from the streaming.
I have sent two files
Any other option to stream from reaper to vmix?
Take a look at voicemeter vban
I have tried this on my setup but there is an audio stutter every time I do lives stream as well as recording
I use Reaper's built in vst called Reastream to the OBS streaming computer. It's free and works well. It also works with any daw. You don't need Dante or NDI.
Yes, Reastream is great, I've wanted to do a video about it for a while. Unfortunately it only works on PC.
I keep forgetting that not everyone uses PCs and Windoze.
I am running Logic Pro X in My iMac. How Can I Route My Audio From iMac To my Streaming PC ?
I Am Able To complete till VMix Desktop Capture For Mac But After that VOXENGO is not available for PC. Help Me Please !!
I do FB live stream an I use Yamaha mixer mg 12xu and the software I use is obs I want my audio to be crystal clear what do I do
I will try this on Cubase 10 pro. Do you think I need to turn on *monitor* in every track?
You may, that's what you have to do in Reaper.
Please help, i already get the audio signal but obs said that the ndi audio source is inactive
We are using Dante to send mix to OBS and we hear the audio great on the computer however the stream is silent. While trying to trouble shoot I set every aux channel in OBS to Dante and finally go audio on the stream by setting OBS Aux 4 to Dante. Any idea why?
Have you installed the ASIO plug for OBS? DVS uses ASIO and OBS doesn't support ASIO by default.
So I have a X32 and this is something I’m definitely interested in doing but the livestream studio is far from my front oh house mixer so I cannot run a USB? How can I do this
Extend your USB output from the mixer with these: amzn.to/2CKWkhD
Can we use voxengo to livestream directly on the same system we are using the DAW? i.e. no second PC
If you are on the same computer, use ReaRoute and install the ASIO plugin for OBS.
How do i split the signal from my Tio stageboxes to both FOH and Broadcast mixing consols?
I believe those are Dante boxes, you should be able to use Dante Controller to route the inputs to both your FOH and broadcast mixers.
@@BallastMedia Thanks mate! ill let you know how i go :)
Can we use Dante to offload VST processing to another computer to save CPU on the main DAW?
No
@@dirkdiggla78 That's okay I already found something that can.
Hi Steven, we’re using a Canon XA11 and running it they the Atem Mini, we’re also running a mix from a QU16 into the Atem Mini and streaming thru an iMac. Our sound is terrible in the live stream during P&W. We’re streaming with only the Atem, should we run it thru OBS or another program before we stream? Is a DAW necessary? Thank you!
Have you listened to what's coming out of the Qu16 for your mix that you are sending to the stream? In other words, just running it through OBS isn't going to fix a bad mix. If you want to send me an example in messenger on my facebook page, I can take a listen and give you some feedback. Just click the facebook link in the description of the video above, and click "Send Message"
Ballast Media yes, it was a mix that was coming out in a stage monitor and we redirected that mix straight from the QU16 to the stream. I’ve been deleting the P&W after the service and just leaving the sermon but I will send you a link as soon as I can find one. Thank you so much!!!!
Hi Steven, So I’m using Pro Tools and would love to switch to Reaper but the resources I have only know Pro Tools (PT) That being said PT doesn’t support VST plugins, I found that I might be able to use Blue Cat Audio Patch Work $100 PT plugin to run VST plugins on PT. Also, I was planning to use Vmix instead of OBS and the latest version only supports VST3 plugins. Based on this above which route do you recommend for passing the audio to the stream PC? I’m getting the Audio into PT via USB from our Presonus board, I can’t use Dante with the Presonus Studio Live Series 3 and my PC doesn’t have an AvB Ethernet Card. Thanks for your time and help.
Can you run your final mix back out the USB to the presonus board and use a hardware output there to route it to a simple 2 channel audio capture device in to your streaming computer?
Ballast Media We should, the brother from church mentioned we almost max out on the 32 channels so I guess we would need to leave some space for the digital returns
Hey! I need help! I’m using the USB HOST to send the tracks. But my church is setting up our live streaming Broadcast room and it’s about 50ft away from the sound console. How can send the tracks to that room using the usb host. I’m using the Yamaha ft5
Best long term solution will be to put in the Dante expansion card in the TF5 and run your audio to the broadcast room over cat cable and a Dante network. You can try using USB extenders over cat cable, but don't cheap out, most of them will give you trouble with sustained throughput of data.
How do you manage latency in a Dante set up like this?
Check out my newest series on mixing in a daw with Dante: ruclips.net/video/dKVooCnI-_U/видео.htmlsi=xPel9VDC9UuD1ky5 Short answer is you can keep the latency below a frame or two.
My SoundCraft digital mixer came with a MADI card. Can that be used?
Sure, you can use a device like this to get all your channels into a computer to be mixed in a DAW if that is what you are going for. amzn.to/3LrbLup
In the voxengo recorder plugin the option "microsoft sound mapper" does not appear
HEEELP
Please someone help me here.? in our livestream setup for our church I have the "reaper" DAW connected to our behringer x32 but I dont know how to output the audio from reaper to our iPad with Switcher Studio
I'm not real familiar with Switcher Studio, but how are you getting audio from the x32 to Reaper? Your best bet may be to get an audio interface for the iPad, but I'm not sure what capabilities Switcher Studio has for bringing in audio.
You know there is asio re route in the reaper installer, you have to select when installing/updateing reaper
Ya, I need to update this video, I've discovered several different ways to accomplish this since then.
@@BallastMedia I use Studio One for this and it doesn't seem to be able to find the Voxengo Recorder plug in. Studio One also doesn't appear to have this option that Reaper has. Any suggestions on an alternate method or why this method isn't working through Studio One?
@@BallastMedia please do!! I'm struggling... Thx
If I'm using Dante, and I route the mix output from the DAW to the streaming computer via Dante controller, how do I get audio to my studio monitors if the audio from the DAW is routed to the streaming computer? Hope my question makes sense.
Probably the simplest way is to also route your mix output on Dante to something like this amzn.to/3dgdWCB (Just be aware you need a POE Dante switch to power these) and then you can send audio to a pair of studio monitors, or even to a small mixer that will let you send to speaker or headphones (amzn.to/3xV088y)
How can I install the Voxengo plug-in on an Apple device? Is there any alternative programs that are compatible with a Mac?
I don't know of an alternative on Mac. There are a lot of audio routing programs you can look in to and see if they work.
Can you bring FOH to a DAW and direct out to another Soundboard and then digital input that into VMix as audio?
Hello Doug Lukas, do you already have a solution for your comment? We have a Dante M Card in the Mixer. Then we made in ProTools the Mixing. Now i want output the mix direct in vMix for the Livestream. When i go back in the Dante Network, i can't import the audio in vMix.
Thank you..
I use waves plugins to mix FOH every Sunday.
Yup, love me some waves! What are your favorite plugins at the moment?
I got the scheps omni channel not long ago and really like it but my old favorites are the c4 and cla-2a cla-76. I have an impact server I run on my personal rig as well.
Cool, I'll have to check out the Omni Channel, haven't tried that one yet. Most recent plugin I've really been liking is the CLA Master Bus on my main mix, just adds "something" that makes it sound better. I've got an Extreme Server setup at our FOH with a dLive, really nice combo. I have found that I'm using the onboard Dyna8 (multiband compressor and multiband EQ) more now on my channels then the C4/C6, but those are always favorites!
I also have the CLA master bus. I have a ton of pluggins but usually have my go to's that I always use.
No 64bit for ableton 10? Sad it dont support 32bit and the plugin only comes with 32bit.
How do I do this if my daw and live-streaming is happening on the same computer
If you are using Reaper as your DAW, I'd use ReaRoute. Add a ReaRoute output to your mix bus, and then add a ReaRoute ASIO device in your streaming software and you can receive the audio from Reaper.
@@BallastMedia thank you for getting back to me I do use reaper, I will give this a try 🙌🏼