Kahr CW9 (Sunday Gear Review)
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I conceal carry a CW45 daily.
Also have a CM9 that I love.
Kahr is a decent brand and as reliable as the rest.
Absolutely, I carry a Kahr CW380 and absolutely love the long trigger pull as an added safety. Granted 5 years later there are many improved options out there right now but my Kahr has served me well.
@@billhartley7469still got my kahr cw9 it’s a dope ass pistol
I've had a Kahr P9 for years. It was my EDC when I first got my CCW. The 7+1 capacity eventually moved me into a Glock 19. I still keep the P9 as a staged gun in my house, and I carry it when I want easy concealment with light clothing. The thing is really slim. I like the clean handsome look of Kahr guns. Mine has never failed to feed or fire. John sounds like he wants to hate the thing but can't find a real reason. Why the negative undertone? A good gun is a good thing, including the ones that aren't fancy, but just good.
He has a marked preference for large double-stack guns with red dots.
"John sounds like he wants to hate the thing but can't find a real reason. Why the negative undertone? " That's the vibe I got as well. Very weird.
@@ronmoore6598i think his main concern is the capacity and the trigger. I think those are the 2 key points he makes. And also the sights he said. So it may make more sense to go for the hellcat, p365, or glock43x. However if u dont mind those things, and u prefer the slimest most concealable option, then sounds like the kahr is still a good choice.
The cw9 is my carry because as a female in hot as f Florida, it conceals super well under minimal clothing. I don't love range time with it in terms of ergonomics as I have big hands and all smaller arms feel less comfortablefor me, but it's been 100% reliable. I agree about the less than desirable capacity, but that sacrifices the footprint for concealment. At any rate, I'm satisfied carrying it until something else blows my mind.
Have we dated?
My thoughts exactly 'cept for the "as a female" piece.
Cheers.
Im a biggrr guy and I like it because its really comfortable for me to carry and I never ever feel like Im printing.
Lol concealing a gun is an art if you are under 150 and don't have a hoodie or Xtra Xtra large clothes.
My wife has had one for years. Have tried to replace it with Glocks, Sigs, HK, anything I could get her to because......Kahr. No luck. She loves that thing. At 7 yards she's surgical with it. To me it feels like a nice double action revolver. Trigger is super smooth, but looooonnng.
I agree with you!
Roger that!
"Hi, you need to receive some Lead Therapy... Hold on a minute, not just yet, okay then, sometime soon, surprise me. "
If it works for her and she likes it, why replace it?
Then sounds like it's the perfect firearm for her. And as long as it works for her then alls well.
Exactly. Always let the wife choose her own gun. She 's happy with the Kahr, and confident with it too, I bet.
I just went back to Kahr after a 2 years of carrying a Helcat, P365 XL, and Shield
I forgot how nice these guns shoot and how small the PM9 is
The trigger is just like shooting my S&W 360PD so I'm used to the trigger
The TP 9 and the PM9 are still awesome guns and Im glad I was able to find them new in the box
Whats better the kahr or the Hellcat? Thinking about buying a kahr
Kahr p9 vs sig p365?
I have a gen 2 Glock 19 that has been my EDC for over twenty years now. Two years ago, my brother-in-law gave me a Kahr CW9 for helping him work on his rental house. Took it to the range, and was pleasantly surprised when my first shot was dead center in the bullseye. The rest of my shots were cloverleafed around the bull. I'm OK with 7+1, and you really have to do some dry firing to get used to the trigger. I actually like the trigger now. 1,000 rounds later, never a FTF. I wish I could say that about my Glock. So now I carry the Kahr fulltime, still shoot the Glock at the range. I used to carry extra mags for the Kahr, but lately have been packing a stapler to throw at the bad guys when the Kahr runs dry.
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I had the same experience with my CW9. First round at the range was dead center bullseye at 10yds. It was love at first shot. Over time, I learned to love and prefer the safer, longer trigger as I like to keep a round in the chamber. And it's the most comfortable and easy to conceal 9mm I own. No other compact feels as good in my hand. An extra mag in my pocket, and I have no capacity worries. Thousands of rounds at the range and 0 FTF's. Checks all the boxes for me.
That was my first concealed carry piece back in 2011. A generous gift from my now wife actually. At the time it was hard to beat for a single stack striker fired pistol but it’s far outclassed by others now. It has a warm place in my heart but I won’t be carrying it.
Outclassed? Hardly. Just has less capacity than others.
Richard, my wife also gifted me my Kahr K9 2003 Elite one Christmas. I still carry it quite a bit. Runs like a jewel! I am looking at other options, but I had wanted a Kahr for a long time and have been very happy with it.
Mine too except the cheaper CM9, did well for a couple years then higher capacity became available
I don't get people still carry a 1911 with 7 rds. and not because it's the big boy. Actually most to put in enough range time to carry a 1911...to be able to master it. just a thought
I prefer the da revolver like pull of kahr's trigger over most striker fired pistols. I don't mind having only 8 rounds. Seems like a big improvement over the 5 .38 special my 2nd most carried gun holds.
I was an MP in the .45 days but when I really learned to shoot was as a Federal LEO with short barrel S&W 66 & 686’s (Glock 23 later). I love a long, smooth trigger, like those snub revolvers. I have newer higher capacity pistols, but often carry the P9, CW9, and it’s newest incarnation the S9. For capacity I carry 2 reloads. You have to get used to Kahr’s and their idiosyncrasies and invest a lot of range time, but I’m a huge fan. Thanks for being fair & even. Theres some undeserved Kahr hate out there.
It kills me people turn their noses up at these guns over capacity. It's only a 3-round difference and Kahrs are WAY less expensive than the 365's.
I own a Kahr CM9 and I love it. It’s dated solidly to 2010s like parachute pants are to the 80s. The trigger is great - IF you take into account it’s competition was stock 2010 Glocks. It can’t clown car 9mm like the new double stacks. But it’s solid, reliable, accurate, small but controllable and aesthetically pleasing. You can get a grip activated laser sight that binds so seamlessly to the gun it looks like it came stock. Incredibly the battery the laser came with in 2012 is still strong in 2022.
Due to the vagaries of CA law, that is one of the few "Slimmer then a G19" 9mm guns with a full grip that are available, and the least expensive one that I'm aware of. I prefer the G19 myself, but people with smaller hands have said the Kahr was more comfortable for them.
That's interesting that it's on the roster!
Were P80s a way around the roster? Certainly would explain CA’s politicians pushing for Biden’s attack on home made tools.
The Kahr feels great in the hand and points like a 1911.
@@finngamesknudson1457 Unfortunately the Safe Handgun Roster has a offense for making "unsafe" handguns, and there is a separate requirement for people making homemade firearms to apply for a serial number and a restriction on purchasing 80% receivers that goes into effect really soon.
@Red Bnting - What about imports brought in by new residents? I’d suspect one can only bring in serialized firearms, but isn’t one allowed to bring off roster owned firearms with them?
It carries VERY WELL. Very thin and very light. It weighs under 16Oz unloaded and it’s just a matter of practice to get used to the trigger.
That is exactly why it is a great concealed carry pistol, in 9mm, no less.
Our ridiculous atf were really hoping to soon get down to banning something like this, on their current trajectory this would soon be a high capacity assault pistol. Really glad we're about to shut those terrorists down, imo.
I’ve always liked the way Kahr engineered their guns.
Excellent Triggers, slim to carry, acceptable capacity and the gun’s
weight shifts toward the muzzle.
The PM9 is a great pocket EDC.
I pocket carry a PM9 every day. I love it.
Great review, solid and fair on the pros and cons of the Kahr. Today we have so many amazing choices in that segment I see no reason to even look at the Kahr. That absolutely doesn’t make it a bad gun it just shows how much innovation has been brought to market in that segment. I think when it came out it was a viable option, but that time is long gone. If you carry and like your Kahr then rock on, by the way I’m no one to judge I carry a Nighthawk CCO 1911 in 45 acp talk about the past.
Rick
Kinda hard to compare a $400 dollar gun to 3k gun.
@@daneh3443 who was comparing?
Higher capacity magazines are heavily marketed and overblown. Unlikely that you will on average, and researched throughly, will need high capacity, Most gunfights are documented as 3 to4 rounds fired, at 3 yards in a few seconds, as an average. Your not likely to become John Wick out there. If you like, and want high capacity, that is your choice, but a single stack is fine. Also Kahr pistols are very well made guns. The CW9 is part of Kahr's budget value line. It's premium model counterpart, is the P9, which is superb. Seems every shooter, including these guys, are somewhat critical of Kahr's long trigger, but admitted it, was smooth. They use Glock's trigger as an example of a more positive trigger. Kahr's trigger is a good one, and you "roll" your trigger with a very crisp break. Learning the Kahr trigger simply boils down to a training issue, that can be mastered, like any other trigger system. Kahr's like the P9 feel great in the hand and point like another single stack- the 1911.
The Statistic that you quote of 3 to 4 rounds is completely on supported by evidence.
I've got a CW9 myself. It's the budget line but the trigger is very nice. Don't really mind the smaller, single stack magazine and in many cases a single stack will not only suffice but will be an excellent choice where concealment is concerned. It's a great gun whether you're just getting into concealed carry, if you're transitioning from revolver to an auto, or if you want to conceal carry something that is small, but not so small as to be difficult to use.
@@ASPextra Did you mean "Not" supported by evidence? Hard to tell what you were trying to say with "On supported by evidence", but those numbers are legit, I read it more all the time. Also, you were very critical and surprised when your friend liked it- but 3/4's of us that responded gave the Kahr's a thumbs up.
I carry a number of single stack pistols on rotation, including my Kahr P40. The main reasons why many go on about not having enough capacity are marketing, newer products like the Sig P365, so now everyone feels under-gunned with their older single stack carry pistols. A concealed carry gun is a, "get-off-me/help me stop an immediate threat", gun. If you need a ton of capacity, you're heading into a full-on combat situation. In that case, your pistol better be your second line of defense and a carbine your first.
The thing about the gun community I love is, there is no such thing as the best brand, but individuals favorite brands!
The CM9 is the best carry gun ever, slips into the front pocket, so light and so comfortable to carry, accurate and reliable. Not the funnest gun to shoot but it's easy to carry religiously in any situation.
Love my cw9 good value, and in California options are slim in the category. I would recommend this firearm to anyone who wants something light and thin. Good accurate barrel, smooth trigger. You gotta keep them clean, and use a 124gr 9mm
I picked up my CW9 for an absolute steal back in 2015. Was looking for a good concealment option and it seem to fit the bill better than anything else at that time.
Took it to the range and absolutely hated it. A mile long trigger pull, felt like the tension of a bowflex when I would rack it, and was a bit more snappy than I had expected, making follow-up shots not so great.
In my safe it sat for a year or so, but there’s something about this gun that always brought me back to it.
Ammo application is something to play with.
I’ve found 100gr hornady lites are about perfect, and they have all the ballistic capabilities someone is looking for. Also outfitting it with a Galloway precision upgrade kit like tension springs, short stroke trigger, talon tape, ect. Made night and day difference.
Last but not least this gun is reliable. Like 100% reliable. I would probably bet my life on it more than most any other handgun I own.
It has its flaws like anything and ammo capacity is lacking but For the price, size, and dependability it’s hard to beat.
The Kahr seems to get the nod ( here locally ) from those who transition in their concealed carry from a double action revolver to an auto, as the trigger is more reminiscent of the trigger pull and duration of the double action revolver. This seems to be it's strong point for those folks.
I think it’ll feel familiar for sue. Not positive that’s a good thing though! :)
Had a PM9 and sold it. Later on, wished I hadn't, so I bought a CM9. Just bought a CW9 and it's the perfect size, imo. Tomorrow will be buying an OG K9 just because I've always wanted a steel framed Kahr. I like them. Kahr knows what role they fill and I think they fill it well.
Cw 40 had 4 at least 10 yrs no problems with it still love it.
I used to carry a CW9 in addition to my HK USP Compact .40. I sold it to a good friend of mine and I wish I still had it.
Have a CM9 in my car and carry one as well. Another staged along with a couple of high capacity Glocks. With a lot of range time and hunt cabin shooting I’m hammering nails with the CM9 at 7-10 yards. Also own a CW380 for special occasion carry. Been loving on both brands for 10+ years
I had the PM9 for some time (actually purchased when the micro version was first introduced). I wish I had it today. Still expensive for its class, but that trigger was amazing...sure long, but smooth. I would like to see Kahr offer an update with the modern 1 1/2 stack mags.
the kahr trigger is a "cocking trigger" when you load a round in the chamber(allways use the slide stop lever for this) the firing pin isnt fully cocked, when you pull the trigger it fully cocks the firing pin then it fires the round. kahr is a very tight tolerance gun with a strong recoil spring, lock the action open and put it away for 2 or 3 days then rack it a 100 times or more. lube the slide rails then take it to the range. run a few hundred rounds thru it, no cheap ammo! galloway precision has a short stroke trigger and a spring kit upgrade, mcarbo also has items for kahr.
I’ve had one for years. It’s alright. I carried it for a while, now I carry the G43. I packed up the Kahr with the intention of selling it, stuck it in the safe, and forgot about it. Now that I’ve been reminded, I’m going to have to get it out and finally get rid of it.
I have owned a CW9 since 2013 and carried it often. Paid $350 back then. But I will say after buying a S&W Equalizer on a whim, I could never go back to the CW9. I would trust my life 24/7 on the Equalizer and its the most accurate handgun I have ever shot.
Love it as a summer carry, got a extendo on it.
I absolutely love mine, aka "Kelly". She has specific roles, particularly in hot weather (think AZ) and in a fanny pack or as BUG. The factory insists on 200 rounds as break in before counting on it, but mine didn't even flinch. Get one!
There used to be a shop in the nearest town that was almost exclusively a Kahr shop. I’d honestly forgotten about them until this video. It looks like they’ve followed the car makers, and offer “tiers” of guns now.
I like both of my Kahr's a lot they shoot well for a small gun and are not too snappy. CW9 & CW45
I have a p9 Ive had it since before the 365 was a thing. I like it because its so comfortable to carry and it works, more rounds would be nice but I just dont need to upgrade right now.
The Kahr Pm9 has been a good pocket carry (in a pocket holster) for me during hot summer days. Is it better than my Sig P365? No. But if it is time for pocket carry vs no carry at all. This little Kahr gets the job. A good shooter.
It is a DAO trigger! What did you expect?
They're Glocktards what did you expect?
Like the pm9 for pocket. Have to concentrate on smooth long trigger pull. Gets the job done and small enough to carry when can’t take a larger one.
Seriously? You carry an HK P30 LEM (with its beautiful, smooth dao-style trigger) in an AIWB holster, yet claim the Kahr's similar-feeling trigger is a drawback? I can see complaining that the slide has to cycle to re-set the trigger. More importantly, I believe the grip-frame and magazine would benefit from the "P365 Treatment" for added capacity. The slide could be supplied with an RDS baseplate and high-line co-witness sights. But the over-riding positive attribute of the LEM, DAK, and Kahr triggers is their intrinsic safety for everyday carry in positions that would otherwise risk eventual self-perforation (e.g., AIWB or Flash-Bang holsters).
I have a few Kahr’s. One is a P9 which is almost exactly the same as a CW9. I love the trigger. I love the I sites and I absolutely hit what I shoot at out to 30-40 yards. Is it a Sig P365xl?, no but it carries better than most shootable CCW. It is a small very shootable carry handgun that is very reliable “after” about 150-200 rounds, a price you pay for a pistol with tight tolerances. No slop at all. Actually It is my 21 round weapon, just carry two small extra mag’s. The mags are also thin and smaller than double stack mags. The mag eject/insert is very fast with my set up. You can’t go wrong with this handgun for the price. I carry my P9 more than my Sig P365xl. 21 easy to carry rounds
Nonthing else this size has a 3.6" barrel. More spin, accuracy and hitting power. Talon grip and check out MCarbo for something very special. Awesome EDC
I still carry my CW9 pretty regularly even though I have several other, newer firearms. I changed sights and made my own grip textured panels for it. I run Sig V-Crown 115gr carry ammo so its a little snappy but manageable.. When I bought it it literally was all I could afford at the time. Had to dump change out of my Ford Rangers ash tray to pay the sales tax at the gun store..
Growing up on Long Island the all metal Kahr K & T series guns were the hotness. I tried the CW series early on but found the triggerguard and trigger too small.
I carry a cw380 (very similar but even smaller) & find it's small for my average size (male) hands. The trigger pull is so long that if my finger is positioned incorrectly, I physically can't bend it far enough. It's tiny, very concealable, & I enjoy shooting it despite the issue.
Had a couple of these. In their day, before hi-cap little guns they were actually quite a nice carry gun.
Only complaints I had was the squared off slide release that chewed up your hand....Dremel to the rescue, and low recoil spring life. I had one that started to reciprocate back past slide lock and just get stuck. Wack it or let it cool and it would go back into battery. Discovered it was just crappy recoil spring.....it was over an inch shorter than a new one IIRC. Install a new one and it would be almost 1/2" shorter after a few slide racks!! 🤦♂️
Accurate and trigger is revolver like.
Wouldn't be my first choice anymore but I wouldn't feel totally underarmed if that's all I had.
Oh yeah, only pistol I've ever seen where the manual says do not slingshot the slide, use the slide stop/release or it may not go into battery......yep, they're right. 🤷♂️
Just a fantastic, high quality gun. And one of the finest EDC triggers made. For God sake guys, it is a DAO (striker fired) trigger. The Kahr triggers are NOTORIOUS for being smooth as silk. I have many Micro 9mm's. Shoot each week. And the Kahr remains my favorite carry. own many of them. What a shame most folks will not appreciate DAO. This is about as good as it gets. All mine are totally reliable, and it is amazing how a small gun this size is so smooth and mild to shoot. Most Kahr fans are immensely devoted to them. The internet is so full of light Triggers and short resets it has become ridiculous.
I have a cw380 with a 7 round mag you know what light fast easy to shoot sometimes I forget I have it love it
I love my kahr I have a P380 I’ve carried it every day for 7 years, But I’m thinking of the Ruger lcp max for more capacity.
I've got a Kahr P45. I use this as my carry gun. I have other pistols also. That I could use as a carry. I have shot over 5,000 rounds have only had two malfunctions due to certain ammunition as well as being dirty. My other weapon that I carry is the HKVP9 but I carry that on the belt or as open carry.
KAHRS are Legendary.
Back in the early 2000s I had the K9 if I remember the designation right
Basically that gun but all Steel
Absolutely loved the trigger, and coming from a revolver the long reset didn't bother me a bit and I shot it very well
But it was heavy
I have the K9 2003 Elite version. It is heavier that the plastic versions, but in a good holster it feels great. It's actually been my primary carry gun for quite some time. For some reason, the Kahr has just pointed very well for me. I see these sights so much better than other pistols I own. I have no idea why.
@@NoBite2 I honestly kind of wish I still had mine, these days I don't mind carrying even K frame revolvers, depending on just how much concealment I need
@@artwebb6939 It’s funny how we change over time. I get gun fever every year after SHOT Show. I read about all the new guns. But, generally I find myself actually carrying something old and tried. Heck, I’ve considered carrying my 1911 again! 🤷🏻♂️
@@NoBite2 same here
I bought one because its nice and because its thinner than most pistols for conceal carry. Bought an MCarbo Spring kit to reduce the trigger travel to 3lbs instead of 6lb
Interesting!!
It's a long pull & reset because it's a full DA. Striker is not pre-cocked. Right about "no wall" but they are smooth (at least every Khar I've shot).
I had a CM9 for a short time. I could never get used to the trigger, it never jammed but I only put maybe 400 rds though it. Sights are good, but that revolver like trigger I just could not shoot as well as like a 43x(my current carry) or my past CCW pistol the most accurate Walther PPS M2. YMMV
Try point shooting. Don't lock for the front sight. It worked great for me with the CW9.
If you're going to do a gun review, it would nice to see a comparison between the Glock 43 and the Glock 26. I carried a 26 for years, and when the 43x came out I made the switch thinking that the 43 was going to be better. Though I can only get three fingers on my 26, it turns out that I seem to be a little bit faster and more accurate with my 26 than I am with the 43. It could be a hand size issue but I'm wondering if anyone else is finding the same to be true?
100% I would guess hand size.
@7:08 According the HandgunHero it's actually considerably smaller in every dimension,. including width, than a Glock43. It's one of 2 or 3 smallest 9mm handguns available. True Pocket Pistol. It's made for Pocket Carry that's why the long trigger and single stack mag.
I carry a CW9 and a K40. Both are great carry guns with smooth triggers, but - man - those long triggers pulls can throw you off balance; all my other striker-fired guns have short travels so the decision to shoot and the actual shot occur close together, but the long Kahr trigger pull can make you alter your grip if you don't initially have the correct trigger finger placement. Add to this a subconscious fear during the pull that the gun isn't working; it's the same feel you get from pulling the trigger of a different gun that's empty. This can be overcome if you practice enough, but it's hard if your other guns have crisp triggers.
Sounds like a training issue, not a trigger issue.
@@LoneStarLawman *sigh* Yes, of course, it's obviously me, and not a long trigger pull like the video said. Glad you pointed it out.
I love my CW9, shoots great, hits what I aim at and only thing I might replace it with would be a Kahr CT9, an inch longer barrel and +2 capacity for 10 over all.
The long heavy trigger pull is by design; the purpose is to prevent accidental misfires since it doesn't have a manual safety. You get used to it. I alternate between the CW9 and the CM9 for EDC because they can use the same holsters.
But it doesn't prevent NDs.
For some reason my front sight came off when I used a holster for my first time It’s my only issue at the moment
i want one for a beginner should i get one?
Any breaking in needed?
U can tell the one guy hates on that gun big time I bet he didn’t like when his friend was giving it praise after shooting it I like honest reviews not hater reviews he couldn’t find enough bad stuff to say about it he started reaching for any thing Great Gun cw9!!!
Completely wrong.
@@ASPextraSounds about right to me
Returned to ccw about 5 years. CM9 was my first semi auto. The gun had done me well. I'm confident that i reliably carried much more often than my buddies larger guns. (And yes, this was my discrete church fun:)
Having said this, my kids, now adults, purchased more family guns... and there are better options now. (But kudos to kahr for leading the single stack design). The p365 for me is so similar and i can aim it better than any of my pistols.
Ps... i was disappointed in seeing kahrs "new" gun show items. 1911? Really?? I'm super patriotic, but i want to see some NEW R&R. are they stagnant or evolving?
That guns a keeper.
I believe you can run +p also.
I carry a cm9 on many occasions when I want a semi auto. Not concerned with rounds. 6 plus 1 along with a spare mag is more than enough. I am not going into a battle field. Usually I carry a snubbie. I love the trigger on the kahrs. I also have the cw9 but a tad big to carry for me.
Never seen any private citizen ever use any rounds from a spare magazine ever in any capacity in a gunfight after analyzing 50,000 gunfights.
@@ASPextra be that as it may, i carry it just if in case. like a flashlight and pocket knife. even still i dont plan on a full out battle. get out of the situation and not to proud at my old age to run away for another day,
Is it the best out there...no. But, it's a great value overall for a small concealed 9mm.
My Edc is a .38spl 6 shot Dao The cw9 is a great entry to semi-auto Edc no safety just a very familiar pull
I’ve never shot a Kahr but was intrigued enough to order one in 9mm. But after reading about the loooong trigger pull, I cancelled the order and bought a Springfield Hellcat. I couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn with the Hellcat so I traded that in for a Canik Mete MC9 which I do love. But I’m still intrigued by Kahr bc they look good and have good reviews and I’d like a compact in 45ACP. It’s just too bad there’s nowhere around me to rent one.
They’re hard to find!
It's a gun you have to learn the quirks of but I find them to be fantastic. Extremely accurate. These are very well-made handguns.
John, Need to mix in iron sights it seems. If they feel awkward its a performance gap you should work on at the range. Agree though...After getting comfortable with pistol red dots irons do feel weird, Like you aren't paying attention to the target much.
Why? I never shoot iron sights. It's like saying that you should mix in driving with a right hand drive from time to time because it's a gap, when you never drive a right hand drive car. Not really necessary.
@@ASPextra and if your optic fails when needed? Do you just call time out?
I love my Broze Kahr cw9
I switch between my Kahr PM9 and my S&W 442 and it’s all I’ll ever need. I’m almost 40 years old and in my 39 years I’ve never even had to draw a firearm as a civilian and I likely never will. This capacity garbage is more of a marketing scheme by gun manufacturers than anything. It’s shown statistically across the board that the vast majority of self defense shootings are over within about 3 rounds and extremely close distance. And I know I’ll get a lot of “but what if” guys…ok, what if? Then what’s desired capacity to daily carry? 15 rounds, 25 rounds? 50 rounds? Good luck lugging around and dressing around your 30oz Glock and a bunch of extra rounds. Concealed carry is all a trade off! The main thing is having a firearm on you. I’ll take my 7 round Kahr for my grocery trips. Haven’t encountered 50 ninjas with AK’s yet. And I think a lot of people forget about legality of self defense encounters. Our only job is to shoot until the threat stops what they’re doing or, if possible, run away from the situation. That’s it! I’ll defend myself to a jury any day with a 7-round PM9 with double action trigger over your “super cool tactical” Glock. I honestly don’t get why people bash the Kahr trigger. It’s one of the best triggers out there in my opinion. Like a finely tuned double action revolver trigger. Which is what you want for a self defense trigger opposed to something like a Glock trigger. I dunno, just my opinions, but I think the main reason of a self defense firearm has largely eluded some of the “tactical commandos” in the gun community. Shut off the John Wick movies and hop back over into reality.
Mediocre capacity is a disadvantage, but for it you get lighter weight and thinnest possible slide and grip. That's not the best for everyone, but the greater concealment and carry comfort is better for some people.
For combat shooting, if you hold by "finger off the trigger until you shoot" then you get the fastest shot with the Kahr -- because you don't don't have to take time to feel for the wall (it doesn't exist). Bullseye competitors may not like it, but on the plus side for accuracy at least you don't get the jerking and flinching that can throw a shot if your trigger has a wall but you try to ignore it and just pull through.
(That is to say, the trigger is designed for self-defense, not sniping.)
Kahr it just works and budget friendly they also sell 8/10 round mags for it
Lol, talk about damning with faint praise! Lost count of the number of times you said, “it’s not baaad, I don’t haaate it.”
I bought a CW9 in 2006. Didn’t get to shoot it for a while, and I was concerned about something I read saying you could jam the gun up putting the slide stop in incorrectly. So I didn’t take it apart when I got the chance to shoot it. So I’d shoot it, put it away, shoot and put away. I never lubed it, cleaned it, wiped it down or disassembled it - for 4 thousand rounds. Because I got curious how long it would go.
At 3,971 I had a failure to fire due to a light primer hit. That was my very first malfunction. Very first. At 4,021 and 4,023 I had the same malfunction. I finished the mag (4,025) and decided to tear it down and clean it. I don’t know of any other pistol you could abuse like that and get 4 thousand round with one malfunction.
It is stupid accurate out to at least 20 yards, and I much prefer the dot over square to the 3-dot sights. Yes the trigger is long, so for us revolver shooters it is perfectly comparable to what we usually shoot, only smoother than many. And you are supposed to press straight through, not try to stage it like they were talking about.
Eight rounds should be adequate for what the civilian encounters, although Kahr is releasing a double-stack this year. And if you are ever pointing a gun at someone, all of your fine motor skills will have disappeared, and you will be shaking. You will be very happy to have a long trigger pull instead of being a quarter inch of finger movement sending a missile down the tube. It’s a little extra bit of insurance against an accidental shot.
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Best firearm is the one you have on you. Many like to think they will carry every day . I can tell you that the trip to the lake wearing swim short etc you wont be carrying. A pocket 380 or this 9mm i find is the sweet spot for me.
Not true with an Enigma.
Ok
Is this where gun snobs go to brag?
Can you carry it?
Can you shoot it well?
Is it reliable?
Then you carry the one that fits those criteria and the one you like. If you want or need more capacity there are limits to size and shape.
Carry the one that meets your criteria and budget, but carry.
No Glock 43 or sig p365 allowed in Cali. Given the roster of allowed handguns and the 10 round mag limit anyway, it’s hard to beat this one on a warm day with light clothing… that is if you can get a CCW.
I own a lot of semi autos that occasionally jam, especially it they’re a little dirty, or cold-soaked.
My CW9 isn’t one of them.
Is there a better ankle carry pistol? Seriously asking 🧐 🤔
Most folks carrying an ankle gun will go with something like a Smith 642 or the like.
Good review. Just a thought I'm on my 33rd year of Law Enforcement. My Smith 36 / 5 shot served me well for decades as a back up. My P9 is fine too. I used Glock cause I had no choice with my dept.. Just don't care for all guns compared to Glocks. there are plenty of better guns.
I weigh 130 and like no one knowing that I carry. I love the khar for summer or lack of coverage... Anywho an m4 my next pistol.
I had a CW45 at one time.
I love the CW9. The trigger is super smooth and great for a self defense trigger. It’s not a competition trigger but it’s still very accurate.
Have several hundred rounds through mine without any issues.
Kahr is still a thing?
That's a new thing I learned today.
Sig has a reputation for its guns going off by themselves. I’ll stick to using the Springfield XD
I had a CW9 and really liked it. I like a longer trigger pull. But I handload and it was chewing up all my brass (which Kahr said wasn't abnormal!) so I got rid of it and moved on. I wish someone would make a single stack DAO.
I got one of these for my wife about ten years ago. It's probably the snappiest gun I own. The trigger is nice, but it doesn't help with accuracy for me. One of the more annoying things about this gun is its magazine; it really likes popping off the top round when carrying a spare. I've had as many as three rounds come out of my spare magazine. Mine is also not terribly reliable. In the years I've had it, I've put only 500-600 rounds through it, and it's malfunctioned three times. I want to like it, but it doesn't have many redeeming qualities.
That's unfortunate. I've had mine for several years now and put several hundred rounds through it as well and can't say I've had any issues. Either with the magazine nor malfunctions. That may have been an issue you can contact the company over to get a replacement or repair. Largely, anytime I hear about reports of issues with the pistol, it's due to the ammo being used.
I haven't seen a Kahr Handgun in a Gunshop in years, Are they still in Business?
They're still in business. They just aren't nearly as popular as other brands like glock, S&W, HK, etc.
Long trigger. After firing Glocks for almost two decades When I fired this particular weapon system I shot at 6:00 No idea that trigger was as long as it was
It’s a good gun
I loved my KAHR while I had it. But how can they call it a DAO trigger? It's striker fired and the slide must be cycled to reset the trigger. WTF.
It has a trigger pull similar to a DAO pull and reset which is why everyone refers to it that way.
I like but not love the CM9. Mine is not tolerant at all to being even the least little bit dirty. Maybe 20 rounds before I have to meticulously clean it to avoid feeding issues, especially with FTX rounds. Man, it conceals up real nice though. It's also a pain to clean compared to glock, springfield, sig, etc.
Man, only 20 rounds between cleanings? That is unsat for my tastes.
@@ASPextra yeah.. it's a backup to my backup for a reason
I don't know that I'd want 500k rounds through a CC pistol but you do you man.
That sounds like a lot.
Not enough capacity? Carry TWO!! "New York Reload" style LOL!😎👍👍
The Kahrs were good guns back in the day but they have grown long in the tooth compared to the new micro 9s (minimum 10 round capacity) and I also think it was bad idea to only sell their guns with one magazine
Their guns almost always come with two to three mags
It's not a bad beater truck gun, I picked one up for $300.
Your truck is not a great place to store a gun…
In an adrenaline fuel encounter, you won’t be conscious of that trigger pull, or even the gunshot sound. You probably won’t even remember how many shots you fired. Your mag will be empty in a flash. Carry extra’s