Gear Review: PHLster Enigma Holster Chassis System
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
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We can now carry our pistol when we're walking around the house with no pants, got it!
Dale Gribble status.
I was thinking of the Goldberg tv show dad :)
You already could it's called the prison wallet
Donald Duck approved. 🤣
This comment is my spirit animal.
Saw this first on "She Equips Herself" and immediately thought "This is innovative".
Very cool.
I think Stav did a great review.
That was even more of a first impression. Can't wait to see what else she does with it.
Did it to
"We're not talking about the holster itself."
You should though. I stand in solidarity with dudes who run hot pink gear.
It's a Dark Star Gear Orion. Very good holster!!
Hot pink for concealed carry? Lmfao no thanks
@@googlesucks3163 not sure how anybody would see your holster if youre effectively concealing
@@joshhill4903 white t shirt
@@googlesucks3163 if a pink holster would print through color then likely your (not skin tone) edc likely will aswell- different materials will have difference opacity.
I recently got mine and I can completely shocked at how much I love it. I am not a women who is going to wear tactical pants and a belt every day. I need a way to carry in my leggings or joggers!! Previously the only options were sticky holsters or belly bands. Both are terrible and the last thing I want around my stomach is extra bulk!!
With the Enigma I am safely and securely carrying in just my sweats!! It's so comfortable I forget it is even there!! Complete game changer is absolutely correct!!!
Also maybe TMI but going to the bathroom has never been easier!!!! Carrying as a women every time ya gotta pee in public it was previously am ordeal!!
I loathe belly bands and it is so TRUE, it is such an operation to go to the girlz room. I'm sold!
Like The Savvy Pup, my question is the same...how is it against bare skin? I’m in the hot, humid south and wearing another tanks or tee under your clothing isn’t gonna happen.
What about the leg strap and underwear?
I've heard (another review) that Mrs.Enigma wears a bandeau top/bra under the holster to avoid sweat/chafing, they're pretty stretchy for all sizes. I'm going to try that myself.
Thank you for your comment. I was going to ask about using the bathroom with this
"Tactical HOBO's"... that's the perfect description!
🤣🤣😂😂 absolutely
Watched this a year ago and finally committed to buying one. Best holster I’ve had by far!
This is on my list of upgrades. But I want a red dot first.
This is great for those of us who are required to wear business attire/suit. Thank you very much for posting.
If I had to wear a business suit I would get a galco miami shoulder holster.
No doubt about it 😂
I'm newer to EDC and I love the Enigma. This is my number one go-to holster. I started using it with a G43x, then moved up to a G45 and it works great with both guns. I wear sweats most of the time, working in fitness and it's perfect. Only thing I don't like is the price. Going on $100 for a bag of screws and some straps is a lot of money. That said, I'm going to buy a second bag of screws and a strap so I have one set up for both of my carry guns. Thanks for the review John!
Yah their price is ridiculous. I think this holster should be $90 max. It cost more than most sidecars that allow you to carry an extra magazine. If you buy their sport belt you're paying significantly close to $180
Why not just buy a adjustable belt and a iwb holster? Thats basically what it is??
@rossauce12 this is much more concealable,and versatile
@@mmafanatic-tz5or I agree and the holster I decided to go with was the PHLste flood light. Cost 138 it was 99 but oh no it don't come with the clips which are another 38 bucks.
@@Riverrockphotos yah they need to bring their cost down. It's just too expensive. Spending over half of what I would on a decent gun.
I worked and carried AIWB in scrubs for years. My homemade version was secure, but wildly uncomfortable and didn’t provide a great draw. This seems like it would have fixed my issues and some! Very cool!
I think people would be amazed how many medical folks carry firearms. A lot of EMS does. It's always kept super low key, because it's usually against policy and the general public probably wouldn't like the idea. But yeah, it definitely happens quite a bit. A lot of EMTs are moonlighting after their day jobs as correctional officers and cops and stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of nurses, especially in the ER, are carrying too, but I don't have direct experience with that like I do with EMS (not that I'm admitting to having carried on shifts, myself). Patients can be dangerous, everyone's heard the stories, and many people want protection. It's better to get fired for violating a policy than losing your life.
@@fakecubed I don't see why people would have anything against EMTs carrying, that just makes sense.
@@Chicky_Lumps It certainly doesn’t bother me. But it’s a perception thing and you have to remember that most EMS is working in fairly built up areas, cities and metro areas, where guns are unpopular to begin with. EMS aren’t supposed to be cops, and so the public may think they’re out of their lane. That’s why it’s generally against policy. Plus, EMS is supposed to avoid danger. An EMT or paramedic to turns into a patient himself ties up two EMS. They’re supposed to wait back and let the cops and fire fighters make the scene nice and safe for them before they come in and do medicine. EMS is not expendable. There may be the worry that if an EMT carries a gun on a shift, they may be overconfident or get themselves into a gunfight and get hurt, when they should be super cautious and avoid getting hurt at all costs.
It’s nonsense of course. No matter how careful somebody is, there is still danger on the job, and an EMT or paramedic who can’t defend himself at all may end up dead instead of merely wounded, and there’s only a small fraction of the population who is willing and able to get through the training and serve the community. Of those who do get through it, the burn out rate is very high. It’s high stress, and you spend all your time meeting people on their worst day of their lives, and losing patients isn’t fun either. So I’m of the opinion that anyone who is willing to do the job should not eschew any safety gear for themselves, including firearms, and the public should just get the heck over it. Whatever it takes to keep EMS in the job and comfortable, that’s a net good. But anyway, departments are worried about liability and want to cover their butts so they generally have a policy against it. But many do ignore that policy.
I"m in the process of getting my license to carry. While I wait, I've been trying to figure out the best way to carry. I can't dress in "tactical hobo" at work - I'm in a business casual environment. I've seen several reviews of the Enigma and it seems like the perfect solution. There is a really good review from the female perspective on Armed and Styled. Plus it solves the "what the heck do I do with my gun when I'm in a public restroom stall?" question. I finally was able to order one a couple days ago. I am looking forward to trying it.
Yep Tessah did a good job showing it!
After using this for a few months, it really is a game changer.
You can literally wear whatever you want and it works. Going to the gym/for a run is way easier.
Getting rid of the belt clip/loops is awesome. When you need to use the bathroom, it stays on you rather than on your belt, or (god forbid) on the ground.
The only problem I’ve had is pants with a stiff belt riding up as I go about my day, removing the gap between my belt line and the grip.
That means I have to get my hand in behind my belt to get a full firing grip.
It’s the only way I carry.
Also, if a man is carrying with belts/clips going to the bathroom can expose the weapon and can also cause the pants to drop due to the weight of the weapon.
@@Swampthing401 I don't have any personal experience with belly bands. From reviews, a large number of them don't have proper holsters. I can use a proper kydex holster with the enigma, and it's super secure.
i know its a year later but they sell a clip system now that you can add to the holster on the outside portion of the enigma to help keep the pistol grip above the pants so the system does not drop below the belt line.
@@chrisboyd1408 dont know about you but when i pee i just unzip my zipper and handle business. there is no need to undo your pants to pee, unless you wear pant with no zipper
Removing the handgun carry method from having a stiff belt attached to your pants is a definite game changer. I really really like the idea.
I know John is super impartial, and if something impresses him positively, it's because it's practical. Once at home, I was wearing t-shirt and sweat pants and I thought: I can't carry, dressed like this... Bummer ! Now, John just showed me wrong again...and I'm glad and thankful to him again.
man, your life must really suck if you need to carry a firearm in your house, more so if you need to conceal it.. no offence
@@gggromay its humor my man, no need to be so serious
@@gggromay So a stranger comes to your front door, and you don't have a camera or a peephole to see who it is, but you open the door anyway, and see the stranger pointing a gun at you. Or, you have a 2-3 story home with bedrooms upstairs, and while you are upstairs, a perp(s) breaks in to rob you (or worse). Yeah, maybe you have an alarm system or cameras, but many don't. Or, perhaps you unknowingly left a door unlocked during the day while you are in your home office working. Hmmm...more scenarios could happen while you seem safe at home with no gun on you. At the least, the gun, holstered, moves with you while moving about your home.
PHLster is the man! He seems to be a very foresighted guy. Very Engineer minded. I got into PHLster years ago and watched his holster making videos. Even made a few myself that turned out to be not too shabby!
Those videos are super old school!
John taught me how to do kydex, in the spare bedroom of his philly Apt. On video. Cardboard shields on his sander!
Game changer! I dress in athletic apparel 90% of the time. Tried so many ways to make it work with no luck. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Just received mine. Super aggravating to set up, mostly because I have an adjustable holster and the screws weren’t long enough, so I had to go to home depot and buy 1 inch #8 stainless steel machine screws. After that it worked fine. The threadlocker you want to buy is Loctite 243, not 242 unless you want to buy an expensive primer as well. It can be purchased at NAPA. After it’s setup, it’s awesome. Lowest profile/print I’ve ever had!
The other thing I did which made it easier is I removed the thread locker on the small screws that hold the belt. I then added my own liquid thread locker and it was much easier to fasten together.
Edit: PHLster got back to me and said it’s not a good idea to remove and replace the pre-applied threadlocker. It needs to be very secure or it will eventually loosen and fall.
Also, I’ve completely stopped using belt attachments and solely use the enigma to carry. It’s the least printing option I have and it’s easy to make it ride at any height. I was having issues finding the perfect positioning when using belt loops.
Super stoked to see this review drop. I've been using my Enigma for about a month and it's an absolute game changer.
Can you use it with shorts?
@@aviationdylan3353, you can use it with anything. Jeans, gym shorts, sweatpants, scrubs. Mine has completely replaced any belt and holster combo I used before.
@@jpabe9321 Perfecttt, I rarely wear pants, mostly athletic shorts. I was looking at the belly bands but they look cheap asf. While this is expensive, this seems perfect.
@@aviationdylan3353, the Enigma's a big step up over belly bands, the biggest advantage being that you're using an actual kydex holster with the Enigma. With belly bands, especially those cheap nylon or neoprene ones, you're gun can shift around while you carry and screw up your draw and presentation, and doesn't actually protect the trigger.
@@jpabe9321 exactly, what pistol do you carry with the Enigma? And how is the printing with shorts and a t-shirt.
The review I’ve been waiting for, been loving my enigma so far Phlster makes the best holsters and gear hands down
I just got one of these recently. It is everything John said it is but I'll add one thing. One of the things I have hated about belt mounted AIWB holsters is trying to use a public restroom while carrying. It requires either taking the holster off or doing a lot of fumbling around to keep it from flopping off on its own, all while you're trying to manage evacuation. The Enigma eliminates that issue. At most, you might have to disconnect the leg leash and twist the holster away from the front of your body. But it's still attached and fully supported. There is no risk of it flopping on to the floor or, worse yet, setting the holster and firearm down somewhere and forgetting it.
It’s an advantage!
Looks like this addresses the issues with carrying in a belly band. Same concept, but utilizes a real holster that meets the requirements of a holster.
A real holster, and a real belt. The geometry of the faceplate allows the belt to orient your pistol in ways a belly band can't.
Meets the same need in a MUCH better way.
@activeselfprotectionextra Have you taken a look at the Crossbreed Modular Belly Band? I didn’t care for the idea of carrying with a belly band until I saw it then got it. It’s a kydex holster that velcros to the belly band. So far I’ve gone on runs, worked out with on and gone to church with it tucked underneath my dress shirt.
@@angelo_higherpurposetraining I believe that's the one belly band John said he's actually ok with in one of his videos
Any issues with the band bunching? That's one problem I've had with belly bands due to the shape I'm in (round 😂)
@@ASPextra I've been mostly happy with my Smart Carry holster, but it has gotten loose and is starting to wear out, so I'm glad I just ordered this. Looks good.
I’ve been eyeing these more and more lately. I think this video has convinced me to try one out.
LOVE all your work John! You’re the reason i now carry POM OC & i just ordered an appendix carry holster to EDC my cpx-2 w/ red dot. Cover your ASP👍🏼
"The Humble Marksman" did a review on the CPX2 w/red dot. Highly recommended in his opinion. Check out his channel, good stuff. And a 14oz blaster with 10 rounds and a dot is *solid* edc!
@@AOMartialArts It's not solid. That firearm is noted for poor quality. Most ppl who talk about how great cheap guns are and their high quality haven't shot them enough. There are exceptions but SCCY firearms are well known for QC issues. And I say this as someone who has owned 3 at one time. Finally learned my lesson after selling off the last one.
@@procrastinator6902 I’m glad you made comment on SCCY. My first EDC was one but after I couldn’t adapt to the long trigger, I sold it. So glad I did too
Mom's with kiddos that carry, this is the best! You can run around the park with your kids and not worry about anything. If you don't have a flat mid section, work great.
I've been using mine for a few weeks now. Love it. def a game changer. I don't have to plan my attire around the gun I'm running now. put the gun on and then decide what I want to wear. Side note, I find I don't actually need the leg strap. I have removed it completely. It was just getting in the way. I've practiced my draw repeatedly without it to make sure it was the right choice and it was. Holster stays put just fine and gun comes out as needed even with solid retention in the holster. All in all, fantastic piece of equipment!. Another side note, I personally still prefer to run a wedge with this even though john says in this he doesn't. I tried without a wedge and just didn't like how it fit so I put my wedge back on.
Yeah that definitely depends on body shape with the leg leash. If you're wider in the hips than waist it'll ride up without something to keep it down. If not, no need!
What great timing! I just bought a new handgun and was researching holsters. I kept getting hits on the Enigma. So, I put that aside and started binge watching videos on the ASP channel. I then get this alert about this review of the Enigma. Your review is excellent, and I'm going to order one right away! I really like this design! I currently have a bellyband Velcro style holster, but it's so flipping hot and humid here where I live that it causes carrying to be quite uncomfortable. I'm excited to try out the Enigma in this heat and see how it goes! Thanks again, John, for a great review!
I wear scrubs and usually just tie my holster using the bands on my scrubs but I’m now thinking about getting this! This would totally change how I carry!!
It's super useful.
I love this review among your many other reviews and I just purchased my enigma and am so much anticipating its arrival! I look forward to the day when I can wear jeggings, leggings and all of the above with out the fear of printing around my mid area.
any updates for us?
My Son in Law has one for his p365 XL.
No matter what he’s wearing it never prints.
Just the other day we were practicing draw and shoot times with a shot timer.
I was really impressed with how fast he could draw with that set up.
So
Much in fact I had to order one for myself.
Just got it in the mail.
I also ordered the papoose covering which is supposed to help for people who chafe easily like me.
I do a lot of manual outdoor labor and I sweat like no other so I’m often chafed as I have very thin skin.
Winter is definitely my time of year and summer has always been brutal for concealed holster discomfort for me so hopefully this will be a game changer for me as well.
The pappoose is awesome!
I'm super excited for the lightbearing one that is supposed to come out this month since I use a Streamlight on my G19. I carry all my handguns in PHLster holsters and have not been disappointed in the slightest.
I love my enigma. Best holster setup on the market. Best part is it opens up your options for wardrobe choices.
Lol I was afraid once it went dark it had failed!! Glad I was wrong!! John and his wife spent a long time developing this. I think it’s a great backup option or as you said a run to the store in sweats holster you know you’ll actually wear. I’m looking forward to getting one of these in hands as well. Thanks John 👍🏼
I live in sweats. I think this is going to be perfect for me.
Thanks for showing us your ASP John!
Haha!
I’ve been researching this rig and I think you’ve sold me on it. I’m left handed as well and was waiting to see a left handed setup. Appreciate the video review.
With the number of views on this vid the PHLster Enigma Holster Chassis system is out of stock. I'm on the list to get one of these. Thanks for the great review.
After months of waiting for a light bearing version, I received the in stock notification and snagged one. It should be in on Monday.
John, Thanks for the review. This is what I have been looking for. I wear scrubs a lot and I was using ankle carry which for many reasons is less than ideal. But this is as you said a game changer for me. Thank you!
It’s a great option! Glad to help!
That hot-pink holster is a great idea! It must make it easier to visualize the ‘target’ when re-holstering
That's cool!! I have looking for something for gym shorts. This would work great!
Just purchased my Enigma and this helps tremendously.
Was about to order the trex arms sidecar 2.0 but I think this will work for me perfectly. Thanks John
I’ve been practicing holster draw and timing it with the MantisX and I’ve noticed my biggest issue is getting hung up on my belt when clearing the garment. I was wondering if this Enigma chassis system would make for a nearly foolproof way to clear the shirt when pulling up from the lower edge since a belt outside the pants isn’t needed. All potential snags to clearing the garment are gone. I’m going to buy this, when it’s back in stock : (, and run some tests, but I’m betting it will result in a more predictable, confident and repeatable draw compared to a system requiring a belt over pants. Just thinking with my thumbs here.
Edit: update 4/7/2021: it acted as expected. No more hangups with clearing the garment. When wearing pants, I’ve switched to a thin nylon belt with offset buckle and use the enigma system under my clothes. Works perfect.
Many thanks for updating this. I've been looking at this holster for a bit now. Seems to be one of the only holsters that allows you to dress normally and still have your gun
SOLD!!! Thank you John for your insights on holsters, I actually ordered a Henry Holster using your link. Now though I see this and I'm tempted to do a return.
The Enigma will mount to your existing Henry Holster.
😁Your Bits..... I just about spit coffee on my computer.... Just picked one up. Thanks for the great review.
Have fun!
You joke about the part about keeping another layer on under for the demo, but serious question, is it comfortable on your skin or do you need to wear a layer like that under the swears to keep the thing from chafing your skin?
I prefer to have a layer under the gun for any holster, as I am not a big fan of the feel of a textured gun on my skin. So I would always wear an under-layer. Chonies and undershirt on, gun on, outer clothes on. But that's more my preference than a requirement.
@@ASPextra agreed
@@col.cottonhill6655, there are some mods you can use to make the belt and holster more comfortable without an undershirt. Some users have been using a Nike head wrap as a sleeve that goes over the belt with good results. Others use a bandeau bra around their torso under the holster. There's also the Papoose, a tweave liner that goes around the belt and holster, that's been really well received.
There's definitely ways to make the Enigma more comfortable against your skin while you go out to kill fiddy men.
@@jpabe9321 don't forget to carry dental floss!
Check out the Phlster Concealment Workshop Facebook group. In there you’ll see John Ticker who created the “papoose” for the Enigma. He’s selling them in small batches but I believe he’s working with Phlster to get them made in larger quantities. I just received mine and it’s great. It’s basically a soft sleeve to go tightly around the whole thing so that nothing harsh it touching your skin.
I saw this thing release awhile back and was wondering if I'd see anything on it. Thanks John! I may get one for my girlfriend
That's a good idea...i made meself something similar by using a belly band but adding a hard kydex holster riveted to it...so that i could go to the gym and not have to wear a belt...good review
I was looking for options for my wife and now considering this for both of us. Thank you for the review and vid!
Glad I could help!
Very interesting concept! I will definitely take a hard look at this as I am in scrubs all day.
In scrubs it is literally ridiculously amazing.
@@ASPextra Thanks. I am a bit fluffy so it is VERY difficult to find a good rig.
Just got one of these! Ive owned easily 50+ holsters over the years and the enigma is the best BY FAR. I decided to get the phlster pro to go with it. Never been able to carry my g19 in sweatpants. Not anymore! Get on the email list and buy it the instant you get the in stock email.
Thanks for taking the time to do such a detailed review on this! I was skeptical of this product but now I need to pick one up as well.
Glad it was helpful!
A very good breakdown and demonstration of the product.
Enjoyed the video very much 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
All of Phlster's gear is top notch. Had a good laugh at "tactical hobo"!
Just ordered mine, so excited.
Thank God for this i was looking for shoulder holsters but this thing solved my problem definitely gonna buy it
Been seeing ads for this thing recently and thought it was eeeh. Thanks for the review though now it seems like something I could actually use!
You're welcome!
I have a holster that has a similar idea to this one. It's called the Smart Carry holster. I prefer holders like this so I'm going to try this one out to!
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Out of stock
looks good for nurses in scrub pants
Great video. First one I've seen that shows how the system is worn.
Interesting, will have to check it out....and thanks for not showing your wedding tackle. Just got it for Christmas, works great! Thanks John
Got lucky this morning on the Sons of Liberty Gun Works M4-76 13.7" p&w complete upper drop at Big Tex Outdoors. They lasted like 2 minutes. Ike is a solid dude and BTO rocks.
The BTO customer base is RABID when it comes to limited stock items like that!
I'm wearing my Engima system as I type this. I just received it today.
Holy shet 😮. Yeah i need this, living in Florida my daily attire is either joggers or shorts and it's a mission to CC. This.....this right here is innovative
I’ve been running something similar for a few years when I have gym shorts or something. I used a low profile gun belt attached to the holster and just run it around my waist under the shorts. I had some sketches for a similar chassis/holster/bellyband/gunbelt concept. Never did anything with it though. Interested to try this, looks like a solid solution for women particularly given the varied clothing.
This. I’ve also been doing this for years, a quick way to strap while wearing sweatpants, gym shorts, etc. Same belt that you would use with pants; quick, cheap and easy solution.
I know rite, thank you! When I wear sweats or gym shorts, I just wrap a 10 buck web belt around my waist...and then spend the extra dough on coke and hookers, instead of an expensive enigma chastity belt.
I really need to spend the time and finish setting mine up.
If you need any help with it or have questions, check out the PHLster Concealment Workshop group on Facebook. Tons of helpful tips there!
Thanks, yep, I’m in it. :)
Sweet!! Can't wait until mine arrives
John, I think you just solved one of my big gun carry problems! Thank you from the westside (El Mirage)!!!
For work I wear a polo shirt(tucked in/sales calls) at home I'm in sweats and jeans. The sweats is a j-frame and the pants are a subcompact. For work, it's a j frame in a crossbreed supertuck and honestly it's something I'm always adjusting. This looks right!
Great!!!
And now I'm still waiting for them to become available. Sad times! My sweat pants remain unused.
I am on the waiting list for mine and right now I assume I will be using it with my Glock 48. But, I am excited to see if it will allow me to carry my CZ 75. Do you think it will?
I know I'm late to the party but thanks for the review and demo. Wish I knew of this product before buying a bulkier belly band.
I would replace the belly band with an Enigma in a heartbeat.
I absolutely love my Enigma. Only way I can manage to carry appendix and not be irritated.
He's working on a light bearing version of the enigma and I've got money in hand ready for that
Good for scrubs to.
They were already sold out, now after this video they'll never be in stock again.
I might have to try this out! I wear gym clothes most the time and those belly bands are way to hot in the summer.
That leg-leash is money. I have been wearing a tactipac IWB for years and it lifts out of my pants all the time. Sometimes, when I draw, the holster comes with it.
Only works with “ModWing, Darkwing, Raven wing, and similar AIWB concealment claw/wing attachments which have the standard 5/8ths hole spacing.”
Correct. Those are high quality holsters so this is a good thing.
@@ASPextra I use the Enigma with Phlster Pro with my P365XL around the home in shorts and t-shirt! Its convenient for those instances though otherwise carry on my belt.
Looks good. I have been using a 3 Speed Holster for my Concealed Carry for a few years now, and this looks to accomplish similar things. I'm interested to try it out. It seems like the Enigma has the important advantage of customizability and adjustability. However, it doesn't look nearly as comfortable as the 3 Speed Holster (honestly most holsters are not). I think I will try it out though. If it's comfortable enough, then I think the adjustability will be worth it.
I would want a system like this that could be worn carrying at 3 o'clock. I have never been comfortable carrying appendix. It is not safety related but a physical discomfort. I like the idea of something that deletes the need for a belt or denim to attach to. I have been looking at Belly Band Holsters and it has come down to Crossbreed, Clip n' Carry, and this unit. The thing I like about the other two that I do like is they are both universal positioning where this one is dedicated to appendix. I like the minimalist nature and some of the features that this one has that others do not but again I carry on my hip not hovering above my member.
Out of stock! Any idea when they'll be in stock? Pretty good price too.
We have thousands more on the way this week!
They're making them like mad, so soon I know. Get on the email list.
@@PHLster Fantastic! I have put my e-mail on the waiting list and check for in stock every morning and evening! Hopefully I can get my order in when they are in stock! 👍
@@ASPextra thank you
I waited what felt like months for mine! Well worth the wait! It's amazing!
Decided on ordering one for my Sig P365 XL, I’ve tried a ton of holsters and can’t find anything comfortable. This seems promising though.
I need this. I am usually wearing athletic shorts/ pants whenever im not working and find it annoying to carry since I don’t have a belt. This is exactly what I want
It's a great solution.
Thanks John. Great job. Good info.
You train jiu jitsu too? What a cool test you did for this set up. I'll check this out as I get some more firearms training in.
Finally an appendix carry rig that I can actually wear cause out of all my pants only my levi’s & dress pants have belt loops. Ik tell me about it not sure if it’s because I prefer the elastic band type of cargos & most modern pants these days since I dress more trendy working in film & music production also the last thing I want is to look like one of those dads who wear all Under Armor & 511 clothing which screams “Hey I totally carry but want you to think i’m not” Lol.
Any who Im gonna give this a try cause the other con of appendix/ IWB carry is having to buy pants an extra size bigger which I don’t like , needing belt loops & I love how this can be worn no matter what bottoms you are wearing cause it attaches to the body. Still not as fast a shoulder holster which is my main way to carry cause I just throw it on like a vest & im out the door but this is nice to put on when beginning my day it’s perfect for my back gun & still can be worn with my shoulder holster which carries my XD-40 or XD 10mm both big boys.
Ok I said enough thank you for this review I would have never known about this I’m definitely going to purchase hopefully it doesn’t cost the price of a quality leather rig, lol
Thank you for this review.
Phenomenal.
Great Review!
Glad you think so!
I believe this kit is compatible with jm custom kydex which has a foam wedge
Yeah, and I can put a wedge on my DSG Orion too.
Not gonna lie my mind went somewhere else when i saw the thumbnail😂😂😂 pretty cool holster tho!
“Grabby piece” lol. Good video 🤙🏻
I've done something similar for years. I wear a gun belt under my sweats and it works really well.
Yeah that's kind of the base, but the chassis up front changes how the gun rides and really is the core of how it's different.
Jon, one of the creators, is heavily into physics and has designed this whole thing around using the physics of concealment. That faceplate with its adjustment options allows you to pull the muzzle in a little here, pull the grip in there, rotate the whole gun a bit so that it hides better, just so many options! It’s way more than a belt to hold a gun. It’s just crazy.
So, after a year since this video was published...
How does it feel or any suggestions to customize for heavier men?
Love it and stand by it. Wore it Saturday and worked wonderfully.
Dude... I need this! AND I LOVE the pink holster dude! That's badass!
Awesome video and review! Thanks...
Great review! Thanks John
I'm definitely interested!
Hopefully PHLSTER adds more staff to their team. I forsee this holster getting a lot of demand. They're already out of stock.
Our vendor for these has been hiring staff and adding equipment and we’re close to getting through the backlog.
@@PHLster Awesome! Looking forward to trying this holster out.I have a feeling I'll agree with John on the versatility of this holster and be able to recommend it to my female students.
Been doing this with an elastic Arcade belt and an Incognito Concealment holster with the Incognito Clip for about 2 years and have loved it. A bit apprehensive to spend money on some contraption like this. If I need to shit, I just pull it up around my chest and slide it back down around my waist when I'm done, looks like this might add some complications.
The purpose built front plate makes a huge difference.
omg i saw your foot and ankle...how lewd
Thanks for this review that looks like a great rig!!
We really like this concealed carry system. They do not make a holster for our handguns. Will a different brand holster fit on this? From the video I'm guessing Orion holsters will fit on this.
Is this much better than just clipping my holster onto a nylon belt and just wearing it under my basketball shorts?