How gun ranges stop bullets
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- Watch as Rob Euerle take you down range to see first hand what material is used to stop the thousands of rounds shot at The 21 Gun Salute Shooting Range. The Parma Armory Shooting center is a bulletproof fortress that provides gun enthusiasts with the best shooting experience possible. This is something you won't get to see anywhere else!
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Please tell me this guy didn't say the shell casing firing pins were pointing up in the floor. Well, I watched it a second time and yes, he actually said that. I certainly hope he is not one of the trainers.
I also watched it twice to make sure I heard what I heard. Cringe.
I wasn’t about to say the same thing. Did he mean primer?
Maybe speaking extemporaneously on camera is not his first skill.
Well, when you go shoveling and raking the trap of a range with zero PPE, in your street clothes, you tend to accumulate a bit of lead on your clothes, skin, etc. This is especially true when you handle bullets and fragments that you said you weren't going to touch. We all know what lead poisoning does to intelligence... There's rules for handling hazardous materials that are every bit as important as range safety rules. If this guy is so willing to ignore those rules how vigilant are their RSOs? Do they even have RSOs or is it just one kid checking a tiny monitor with a terrible picture every few minutes while also handling the check-in desk, equipment rental, and ammo sales??
@@life_with_bernie I retract my statement. After further research I rescind what I said earlier. You have a wonderful day
He went on so long about the floor I literally forgot what the video was about
What would you like to see instead?
@MeetRob exactly this, they are just being grumpy.
Damn it took him the whole hour to make a point.
Yes, it does take time. Some of us are slow learners
@@MeetRob The firing pin, in the catridges was a good one. Wonder how manu fell for that?
Live ammo in the floor helps you find it in the case of a building fire.. great audible representation of down
Well it’s in the epoxy floor
@@jeffl8915 what’s is the hazard if the cartridges are incased in epoxy. True,it would be better to have used dummy rounds. You can get them from major ammo makes-for function testing gun actions,display and collectors.
i think what the fire department would be more concerned about the thousands of boxes of live ammunition stored in cardboard in the front
@@MaximusMin I went through a recent home fire and had lots of ammo. You could hear the ammo popping of during the fire. Neighbors said the same if the homes caught fire.
6:42 "We're not gonna touch it"
7:16 Touches it
Haha thank you for documenting, your attention to detail is great!
I can’t believe a fire Marshall was ok with live ammo in an epoxy floor
It’s all encapsulated
😂😂😂so true
I mean if a gun range is on fire that handful of live rounds are probably the last thing of your worries😅
@@ushiochengyou may not be concerned with it, but every fire inspector I’ve worked with would have that floor torn out unless it was dummy ammo. They worry about it all before so their guys don’t have to worry about it during a fire.
@@MeetRobthat is obvious, but it’s not impervious to heat, and if the rounds cook off it’s essentially sending shards of hot plastic flying. Hopefully the epoxy melts before that happens
Hats off to you for not discouraging new shooters for hitting the floor, pillars or whatever. Most ranges by me charge you flat fee or cost to fix stuff if damaged. It discourages some from trying out of fear
The money made from all the lead and copper collected is that enough to pay for the bullet trap cleaning.
That is the goal
Love your range. Though, I had a catastrophic failure of a firearm, and when I asked to view the surveillance video footage to replay it back to see what happened, I was denied, three times over. The answer was "because the lawers said so / advised against it" ... and has forever left a sour taste in my mouth, along with the metal fragment in my face. Talk about a missed training and learning opportunity.
I’m sorry to hear about the failure and issue
File a lawsuit and subpoena the video. Once they provide the video, drop the suit.
I just thought that was a piss poor answer, which I followed up for over two weeks time, three times over, for management to come down with THAT as an answer. "Because our lawyer said so." Seriously? How about looking out for your paying patrons, who support you and your business? A more appropriate answer would be; "Please give me the time and date, and I'll be happy to review the video with you." Rob. Very seriously.
@THINKforYOURSELFinstead They're too afraid of getting sued. I agree with the other guy to sue them for the footage to be released. Otherwise, they are hiding something. Then have lawyers review the footage and sue them accordingly. This is a safety issue. No lawyer gave him that advice. He wants a lawyer in case he gets sued for a bullet flying back at one of his customers. That's the real reason why he doesn't want you to see the footage. He's in the wrong and he's hiding something.
When I was stationed in Bahrain, our base had a shooting range for qualifying for weapon qualifications. The range was just a trailer like you see being towed by diesel trucks, and it had a shooting range in the trailer. Anyways we shot 9 mm pistols and 5.56 mm rifles in there. They closed that range down because people were shooting M60 and M240b machine guns in there, and one day they noticed a hole in the back of the trailer because a round went through.
First time coming here I was intrigued by the floor filled with bullets. Love it
Thanks! We thought it was a neat floor as well so we had to build it
Gave me lead poisoning just looking at him raking the lead with no respirator on 😅
Not possible, I am too clean
You know... lead isn't the radioactive substance that requires the might of COVID mask mandates to keep you safe. You can temporarily breathe the dust and it won't hurt you. I wouldn't want to go breathing heavy amounts of leaded smoke, but that's not what this is. It isn't even close. This isn't as deadly and toxic a substance that you make it out to be.
"How gun ranges stop bullets" Spends 80% of the video talking about everything but... 🫤
Can you show the cleaning process? I'm curious how they separate the bullets from the rubber. The only thing I can think of might be if the rubber can float in water, but that would be insanely difficult to dry afterwards. I'd also like to see the bullets brought into the scrap yard.
Yes, I’m gonna do more videos on that actually have a cleaning we’re doing very soon
guys, even if the live rounds were to go off in the floor, nothing other than a loud bang would happen. 1. it's not in a barrel, so it dischargers everywhere 2. epoxy is quite tough and will actually dissipate most of the energy 3. There is a 100% chance there will be no discharge, is someone going to walk too fast over the floor and cause a risk?
I think a lot of people don’t understand that
did he say " firing pin" ? Are they only empty shells or live rounds ? I thought the firing pin was located in the gun.
I’m astonished at the number of arrant shots. I’ve never missed the target little alone hit the fixtures, walls or floors. Geez people.
Yeah, that’s pretty typical for a gun range
That's why we don't give formula one cars to kids without a drivers license: they gotta practice first. Unless your name of course is Max Verstappen. 🤔😇🤣 Rob mentioned it several times: people go to the range to LEARN.
People here don’t understand how ammo works and that even on fire it will not just ‘’shoot everywhere’’
Ha! My wife shot the ceiling at the range we use. Only the one time when she was learning.
Is this a video about the floor or about how bullets get stopped in the range?
Little bit of both
@@MeetRob Fair
It was interesting, but your cameraman sucks!
We will improve that we are amateurs
I swear I was just about to say the same thing just terrible 😅
Good on you for owning it. To be more constructive: when talking about the floor or wall show those subjects not the host. Grab some close up B roll to show during explanations @@MeetRob
Stop complaining , the video was free . Your whining like a true Maga Monster .
I blame auto focus that never focuses on the right thing. It is a corollary to Murphy’s law.
Every video creator has auto focus issues.
Bro...that floor cost WHAT? You shoulda contacted me first and I woulda done it for 3/4 that cost. :)
Ong. 3 days of labor and some epoxy and basically free shell casings? You silly Americans with your prices 😭😂 Where I'm at, in East Europe I can only imagine a half drunk guy with an Russian accent: "Alright boss, 250 euro for the work, take it or leave it"
It was a test project for us as well
@@MeetRob I was just ribbing you. It looks great!
Very cool and informative video, thank you!
I like the bullet floor. That's so cool
$10,000 bucks for a 10 x 10 floor. Someone got took to the cleaners. I'm in the wrong business for sure.
Americans like there shooting ranges,and bullets
C-mon people quit DEMONizeing this range owner,these places ware dissapearing…stand UP!!!
This looks like a great facility.
If I didn’t live so far away I would give you guys a try.
If you’re ever around this area, you should stop out and check it out
All the dbags hating have inspired me to visit next time I'm in state. I have family in Madison and Ashtabula, I heard parma and thought. There can't be that many Parma's lol.. sure enough its the same one. Definitely going to make the voyage, to see that floor and take my brother to his first indoor range! Cheers!
Dude ...just get on with the video. Your Floor is cool ..moving on ..
Hey sorry you didn’t enjoy it
Are you too dumb to click ahead?
How the heck is live ammunition in the floor safe? What about 20 years from now or whatever and somebody unsuspecting has to tear that out? How the heck are you guys supposed to tear that out?
Because it’s in epoxy. How do you think I could make it safer?
A lot of high shots and never saw perpendicular beams on a range in line with gun fire
That’s from Range cleaning equipment
For the semi-annual cleanup, does a metal recycler haul off the lead to make new bullets and jackets? I always wondered whether shooting berms make the perfect vein of lead and copper ore and if it's better than mining fresh from the earth.
Maybe it's not worth recycling if the scale is not as big as industrial mining operations?
Yes, the lead at least pays for the labor and supplies to do the clean-out, sometimes there's money left over as profit. Depends on the scrap price for lead and the crew doing the work. We pull thousands of pounds of lead out of our ranges every year.
Yeah that seems kinda scary to me, I could see dummy rounds casings and bullets, but live just doesn’t seem safe, what if somebody dropped a gun, ammo bag, accidental discharge, or fire.
Let’s likely but could happen
You could also die driving your car to the range. Lets ban all cars. No freedom, if someone can get hurt 😉😅
The never ending annoying music track takes away from an otherwise excellent video.
Thanks for the feedback
Oh yes as a kid I did help clean out the “splash plate” backstop at the indoor pistol range my Dads pistol team used. Most of the bullets and bullet parts fused together. The backstop was entered like a day after the range was used. Surprising not much dust. The bullets landed in a sand filled pit in front of the angled splash plate. These types of bullet traps no longer used. This like 60 yrs ago and have no lead in my body system. The outdoor range had the dirt berm backstop. Found all kinds of bullets there-even 50 cal BMG.
$10k for epoxy floor? You got ripped. And why would you glue down each shell casing????
The brass will move around and float when the epoxy flows over it.
Is this the gun range in Parma? Because I’ve been here.
30,000 lbs lead = 32,000$. Say one ton copper = 18,000$. Brass 1.75 per pound.... wow.... you said clean out twice a year, I hope you pass the savings on to your customers
No copper, lead is $.65/lb
But are an affordable range to shoot at, have you been there?
its a primer not firing pin rob
Yes you are right, I miss spoke
I always thought it was gravel
I’m sure you’re not the only one
Can you supply the name of the company that cleans the bullet trap. I am on the board of directors for an indoor range and we are looking for a company to clean the bullet trap.
Is the rubber for the bullet trap coming from recycled tyres?
Yes, it is. It’s approximately 100,000 pounds.
I mean I get everyone's worry about the potential fire hazard but like... if the building is already on fire and it starts melting the epoxy floor, then you have bigger problems, and the bullets aren't gonna make much of a difference. I'd be more worried of any unspent bullets in the range and built up unburnt gunpowder.
No to mention that every gun range that I've been to is full of ammo that they sell to their customers. That and every range I've been too reloads their own ammo, they also have a lots of powder on premises somewhere on premises for reloading. And while I can believe that their powder might be stored in a fireproof/resistant cabinet, I'm not sure they do that with all of the ammo they sell.
I agree, but people are very uneducated as you can tell
Did he mean AR500 steel? For the vertical supports?
That’s really interesting. Thank you.
10k??? Bro! You pay 3 times the price! Maybe 2 and something but…. Darmmmm!!!!
You got ripped off on the floor and the camera man sucks
Thank you for this pretty helpful comment
This guys employees HATE him. Idk how to even describe this personally. Jesus dude
How do you remove and pick up bullets and fragments out of the rubber?
There’s a certain process that’s proprietary on how you clean the range
The range by me uses a company that uses a vacuum to pick up the rubber and it leaves the lead to pick up by itself after rubber is gone
Interesting. Is there a machine that you scoop the backstop rubber into that sorts through the rubber bits to remove the lead/jackets/debris? Or do you have to do the cleaning out of the debris from the rubber manually?
Yes, there is a whole set up of equipment that processes the rubber when you go to clean it
your floor flex literally got me to stop watching
Very interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it
Firing pin?
Man I bet I could get all the bullet I need for a project I want to build in a day of digging in there
Yeah probably depending on how big your project is
Interesting setup i like it
What else would you like to know?
I aint buying the live ammo...maybe live primers..but not bullets.
10k for that.. you got ripped off
That's alot of range rules on the wall. Can't do anything in there.lol
Firing pins in the floor...
Someone doesn't know shit about firearms but has lots of money.
Who has money?
what firing pins in the floor? what r u tallking about?
Interesting video, but that feeble background "music" was annoying and unnecessary.
10k for spent case, 5x6, apoxy floor. 😓
Great video, thanks for sharing
Your very welcome
I rubbed one out while watching this...
It's a pretty cool facility - in my town. Unfortunately, ruined by the staff. I was told they couldn't help me purchase a new firearm because "they only cater to tactical shooters." Imagine saying that at a range that doesn't allow headshots and only 1 shot/second 😂
What range is that at?
This guy is training people??? Please hire a professional to do an important job related to firearms. This is a serious business.
I am not a training instructor, I am the owner
I bet you make a killing from recycling all that lead and copper from that rubber berm twice a year doing those cleanouts.
Firing pin in the floor?
Neg, meant primer*
Shout-out parma armory
Thanks!
@@MeetRob aww no shit this is awesome a RUclipsr at parma armory congrats on greenscapes man 👍
$10K? I would have done it for 1/2 that
Ok
Epoxy itself is stupid expensive
Yes very true
Go to 5:30
Thanks for sharing a great time of the video?
@@MeetRobyeah that's where you start to answer the question that is the title of your video.
Thanks, Rob, beautiful range. It’s the best I ever seen. 😊
this guy is the wow factor..has no idea what hes talking about
Oh,,, so you glued them down to the floor?
Got what glued down to the floor?
Yes
So many things wrong with this video!
That floor is ugly
Since when do BULLETS have Fireing pins. They hace Primers that are struck by a Weapons Firing Pin. BOT.
Since when do you spell firing pin with an e?
isn't it kind of dangerous to go in there without a mask and gloves due to lead poisoning?
All the money for safety equipment was well spent on fancy shoes, suit, and a baller watch.
Yes
Yes if you live in California but every where normal non idiotic humans live as long as your not eating the lead it won’t harm you but please if you live in California stay home in your little safe bubble
Wash hands afterwards
Lead doesn’t work that way. If this was a lead acid battery recycling area, absolutely. But lead bullets don’t become airborne fine powder here, and unless someone is somersaulting into that pile of lead and rubber, licking the bullets, or handling them with bare hands for extended periods of time, there is almost zero chance of exposure anywhere near sufficient enough to cause lead poisoning.
Stupid waste of money on a tasteless ugly floor.
I call bs on the 10k floor
Come on by and I can explain further, I am on site almost everyday
I believe it haha. Probably not in material but in time itself. I used to custom doors and I usually charged 70 an hour. Assume 6 hours a day for three days, and you're at 1260 on labor alone, not counting the ammo which looks to be easily in the 1k-2k range. I don't know the price of resin or expenses in this job but a 20- 30% profit margin would add another 2k ish. It makes sense to me haha
Your hearing it from the owner, who spent the $ on it. Maybe its too much. But i've been to a lot of ranges never seen anything like that. Very cool first impression. And aligns with rest of the range, quality equipment, attention to detail and safety. A lot to like about this range, compared to many other indoor ranges this is nearly as good as it gets
10k waste of money
The amazing Tony, thanks for letting me know.
No gloves or mask while down range . Not a good idea with all the vaporized lead everywhere .
Well I got news for you nobody is vaporizing LEAD in this video
Yeah true
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Shells ??????? aren't they on a Beach?.
Firing Pin Facing Up ?????? or do you mean the Percussion cap?
Nice Floor art though.
I'm sorry it can't be that sharp to split Bullets on the upright pillars & How can people be that inaccurate to hit the walls and ceiling? Even hitting the Pillars that are not in the middle of a lane, I know you are training, but even if people do it for the first time I would hope they are taught to hold the weapon correctly and what to aim at.
The fact that you referred to a primer as a percussion cap makes it difficult to take you seriously.
@@capt.squirrel8516 Excuse me i meant to Add that, you call them Primers we call them percussion cap's. The Main point I wanted to make was About the firing Pin comment.
@@rock0122 it’s all good. I just felt like messing with someone and you happened along.
Have a good day and stay safe.
This is a really neat for for sure
Very interesting.
Thank you for the tour.
Our pleasure!