My Khar CW9 was the first I purchased. Eventually I added a glock 43 and then a s&w shield. I’ve since gotten rid of the glock and my wife likes the shield. 10 years down the line the CW9 is still my daily.
Nice review. I personally think the 9mm suits these guns much better than the .40, 45. I own the PM9 & P9 in 9mm. Excellent single stack polymer striker fired pistol! Thanks for sharing.
27 yrs ago, I went to my favorite sporting goods store. I mozied over by firearms although my juvenile self wasn't that interested in firearms. I seen the newly released Kahr K9. I fell in love immediately. Such a beautiful pistol. The attention to detail was obvious to my novice self. Fast forward many years and hundreds of firearms later. I stumbled upon a Kahr CW9 and was impressed by the quality. The price was far below my expectations for a firearm with this attention to detail. Bought and carried for a few months. I absolutely love the trigger. Literally last night, I could not stand it no longer and bought myself a K9. After all these years, it's funny that through all the different systems I used and carried, the first gun to ever catch my attention checks all my boxes for my wants and needs. I am thinking about buying a second K9 so my daughter and my son won't fight over my Kahr when I am gone!😂🤣😂. Thanks Yankee, I really appreciate the content and your perspectives as well.
Outstanding! CW9, easy disassembly, reassembly, extremely light, easy to conceal, and extremely accurate for it's size. I own a Ruger, Rossi, Sig Sauer, among others, and gave my wife a CW9.
Love my CW45! No issues with the 300 rounds I've put through it so far. I did notice at some shops when I was looking for the best price, some of the CW45 had trigger issues which I pointed out to the shops and those pistols were sent back.
I recently sold my Walther CCP because I did not like the funky takedown, and bought a new Khar CT-9. I love the Kahr smooooth trigger, and my Kahr has worked flawlessly.
A left wing "gun nut", I love it! His brother has a bushcraft page & I started looking into these pistols off of that. I trust your reviews because I view them as honest & experienced. Thanks for the upload Sir.
I haven't experienced customer service for a long long time from anyone like I got from Kahr when I had an issue with a Kahr I have. They don't screw around. I had a NIB CW9 that had an issue with the trigger, emailed Kahr over the weekend, and got a return email first thing that Monday with a next day postage label attached. From the day I mailed my pistol to them (didn't have to pay postage, didn't have to haggle at all with them) to the day I got it back fixed...LESS than one week. No hassles, no haggles, nada. Notations were included on what they did to it. Compare that to a Century rifle I had....took them 6 weeks to sort of fix it, no notations on what they did to it when I got it back. Kahr has certainly earned my respect, and my future business. BTW, I love my CW9. smooth trigger, reliable, simple (perhaps my favorite feature), light, thin, yet, it has a grip lets you get that third finger on it and makes it very comfortable to shoot, which is not the case with a lot of concealed carry guns out there where you can only get 2 fingers on the grip and your pinky dangles. Real solid little piece of hardware.
A little history lesson. Starting after WW2, the Reverend Sun Myung Moon started the Unification Church. It was and still is considered a cult. Members were referred to as “Moonies”. Very popular in the 70’s. Reverend Moon had two sons, Justin Moon and Hyung Jin Moon. Justin Moon is the founder, CEO, and president of Kahr Arms. Jin Moon is pastor of World Peace and Unification Sanctuary Church, known for holding blessing ceremonies for AR-15 rifles (Wikipedia). I’m glad Justin decided to build firearms instead of being a religious leader. They make some really fine firearms.
I am still in love with my Kahr Pistols after all these years. Just like my wife, Kahrs only get better with age. It's too bad my wife left me for another man.My TP45 is a great carry gun. No problems that I can complain about. Smooth accurate and reliable. Yes, the grip is long, but it's thin and fairly easy to keep covered.
Currently running the MK9 for EDC. I carry either on an Alessi belt slide or their ankle holster. One should note that when cleaning, make sure you pull the firing pin and q-tip the recess very throughly. The Kahr has a unique fire control that cocks the striker as the slide moves into battery. This keeps the firing pin protruding throughout the ejection cycle and causes more then a normal amount of brass to sheer from the case head. This brass finds its way into the firing pin recess and could cause a ftf if not removed. If you want to upgrade to Kahrs full length SS guide rod, you're expected to disassemble the existing telescoping guide rod (thereby ruining it) and reassemble parts onto the new one.
Just revisited this video. Excellent content, very informative, and entertaining as always. I was just scrolling through the comments and noticed all the trolling you have been subjected to. I just wanted to say I've been a long time subscriber and appreciate your work. Your self-deprecating sense of humor is a courageous attribute, considering all the crabs in this pot.
Just going through some of your other videos and found this. I think the Kahr T9 is probably one of the prettiest pistols that I've ever seen. A friend of mine had on and it was immediate lust when I saw it. That lust remains unfulfilled. Occasionally I'll look one up on the internet and stare at it.
This guy humans4targets2 made a video saying the Kahr was a bad gun because the trigger, it's an excellent trigger, especially if you like good revolver triggers. I love revolvers so I find Kahrs very nice, and simple to use.
2-1 BrAvO Noticed he turned off the comments. He said the trigger is dangerous if you have to hold someone at gunpoint since it is hard to tell where it breaks.
Funny you mentioned Glock 40s blowing up in your hand I had a Glock blow out a large section of the base of the case partially ejecting the magazine when i was shooting one day. It was a friends gun and he was a witness to this having happened. as well as a piece of the brass partially embedding in my face.
Yankee, Great video. I like the way you just state for people to look at a Kahr. That does not mean that a Kahr is the right gun some people. There are so many variables that come into play when considering a gun to purchase and or carry. Lastly, about all the comments about safety checking on video. A weapon should be safety checked each time it is picked up. It has nothing to do with being on camera or not. Keep up the good work!
On the contrary, there are still way too many dumb people out there, showing a safety check every time helps to hopefully drill it into their feeble memories.
Love my CM9! My CM9 is the most reliable carry piece iv ever owned, about 1,000 rounds or more through it and not a single malfunction, very very reliable and accurate, I am a commercial refrigeration tech and get dirt, lint, and all kinds if crap in my gun and take it to the range and fire it with the ammo in the mag I carry to make sure it will function properly after the crap its been through and have yet to have any issue, even put 500 rounds through it didn't clean it, carried it for 2-3 months and took it to the range without it being so much as dusted or blown off and it functioned flawlessly, just my 2cents and experience.
I bought a used CW40. It had been shot so few times there weren't any rub marks on the barrel yet. But, it already had a bent slide stop spring. After straightening the spring it gave me no problems. But I have had other issues with mags dropping out and once I had a trigger fail. Kahr is sending me a new spring, mag catch, and follower. I cleaned and lubed the trigger bar and cam. I have fired over 200 rounds and it seems to be reliable as long as the mag stays in, no FTF probs. Hopefully the new parts will resolve that.
I was worried about the frame shaving too, was told by kahr that all polymer frames will bite until "break in" period is complete, and to their defense, the metal guide rails built into the game are still fully intact.
I love, love, love my MK9. Been reliable and accurate from day one. Had mine for well over a decade now and it's been great. It's been my off duty carry gun of choice for a long time.
I bought a Kahr PM40 back in 2001 from a gun shop in Dallas Texas that had a shooting range I didn't even get through two mags before the rail broke on the slide couldn't even shoot the gun but fortunately since I was still there I took it right back in and got the steel version k40 I've had the gun ever since and I've never had a misfire with it. Looking for a lighter gun now so maybe I'll look at PM again. Good video THANKS
I have put just over 500 rounds down the pipe in my pm45 without any problems must say a really nice CCW with lots of stopping power! very very happy with it
My PM9 has been flawless with Winchester white box ammo, same with my PM45. Originally had to send the PM45 back for feed issues- they repaired and polished everything, but eventually I just wised up and learned my Kahrs only like certain brands of ammo. I also have a T40 now and it shoots perfectly as well.
I've been carrying a PM9 for about 2 years now and couldn't be happier with it. I shoot at least 21 rounds through it most weeks (6+1 capacity, my hand loads) so it's approaching 2,000 rounds and has never had a failure of any type. I think the way the mag fits is by design, to make it easier for the mag catch to engage with the magazine. Some pistols you have to smack the mag pretty good to make sure the mag catch engages, not so with a Kahr.
I have carried the Kahr PPS (9mm) for just over a year as my EDC. The points made here are all good and valid. Two things I am not delighted with: 1) The 200+ round break in period. 2) When reassembling the gun after cleaning, I find it annoyingly fidgety to push the slide release pin back through the gun's frame. Fortunately Kahr has a RUclips video clearly showing how to do it, but it is still a pain. My first Kahr, during the .380 fad was the P380. I had some problems with that one and, while I didn't need to send it back, had uneven experiences with e-mailing Kahr's customer service. In all fairness, this was back in 2011, YMMV. It was finally recommended that I only use good quality, American made ammo and that seemed to make a difference. Now I would just like to sell the .380 since I only carry the PM9. BTW, I would rather carry my Walther PPS more. I feel it is a better quality gun and 100% reliable. Unfortunately, the slim, light Kahr PM9 is so comfortable to carry you want to carry it everywhere you can, every time. And that my friends is key if you make the decision to concealed carry. No gun, no matter how excellent, will be of any use if left at home.
Nice video. I've had three Kahr's along with 3 other vendors. I've put at least 1000 rounds through each Kahr and have had zero problems. I even dropped a loaded PM9 on concrete once with thankfully no discharge. The low weight is a huge advantage for me.
As mentioned in the video by TheYankeeMarshal, the P45 pistols may be pushing things too far. I purchased a new one in 2016 and followed the manufacturer's break-in procedure of 300-rounds and noticed the following defects: 1) barrel lock-up area had become peened and damaged, returned to Kahr and they replaced the barrel; 2) would not feed hollow point ammunition; 3) frequent jamming with FMJ ammunition; and 4) plastic was being shaved of the plastic portion of the frame rails
I had 3 Kahrs, PM9, CM40 and CM45. I only had issues with the CM45. The 45 version was throwing the brass straight to my forehead. I sent it back 3 times to the company for service but unfortunately they were unable to fix the issue. I got a replacement.. in 9mm. They didn't fix the original issue but their customer service was wonderful.... from the gunsmiths to the customer service director they are awesome. Excellent job!
I put off buying a kahr when I saw the price on their budget lines (c series) thinking that low price meant low quality. I ended up getting a ct9 at a really good price and now I absolutely love them. great firearm, amazing trigger!
My first gun show I went to, I bought a Kahr CW 40. Very smart decision on my part. It has been my carry gun for 4-5 years. I love it. Only thing I didn't like was only one mag. There was a magazine lady at the show though that got me two mags for a few dollars cheaper than KAHR's website. I had those a couple months after I bought the gun, when the gun show came to my town.
They will on a Kahr because the slide rides on a set of secondary polymer rails. If the frame flexes under heavy loads it becomes an issue. It has caused them a lot of trouble in the past.
I own the first run Kahr in 9mm and it is a well thought out and engineered gun from the get go. Personally, love the trigger; you can feel the break coming so it's kinda like line bifocals versus no-line, a smooth and controllable transition. The quality of the barrel was well covered in this review, so kudos on that. It is a heavy piece, so I agree with the reviewer that the Polymer .40 is ideal for everyday easy carry. .40 cal has given the .45 a real run for the money. So, all considering the reviewer nailed it.
My PM40 breaks so smoothly, I can't tell before it fires. Not at all like my duty Glock 23. In fact, had trouble qualifying with the Kahr because they're so different. Ended up with a 27 for backup.
I bought a used pm40 black diamond for 300 dollars used and the frame was cracked. I sent it in to Kahr, told them the story , 8 weeks later I got my pistol back with a new frame , no charge! I am a Kahr customer for life.
Great review. I have a Kahr K9 Elite and I love it. It shoots great and is my favorite range gun. I prefer the higher capacity of my glock for home defense however.
Thank you for this review. I recently bought a Kahr CW9 as a back up to my Sig Sauer daily carry. It is a great gun for the price point and I am looking at purchasing a MK40. Really impressed with the Kahr.
I have never had issues with my Kahr pistols. I friend had bad issues with one of the first PM40's though. It was before they changed the polymer and the frame would flex and the polymer rails would cause the gun to jam.
Cw9 was my first pistol, can't ever see myself getting rid of it. Picked it up used and have put about 600 rounds through it without a single issue, shoots nice, feels nice, accurate and easily concealed in my kholster
One thing to keep in mind is that striker type fire control systems are not design compatible with the Browning tilt breach short recoil action. There are a lot of things that gun designers do to get around this incompatibility, otherwise the firing pin tip would snap off before you empty the first magazine. However, even with those design fixes, you can still end up with a carry gun going "click" at the very worst time.
Thanks for posting this video. One thing I'd like to see is, a comparison of the Ruger LC9s Pro to which ever Kahr model comes closest in size. I'm just curious how the lower prices Ruger would compare with the build quality of the Kahr pistols.
Good points. Polls show, time after time, that corporate CEOs are usually split on the conservative/liberal and Republican/Democrat political spectrum. They reflect the overall general voting patterns of the American voting public. Just because you make the BIG bucks doesn't mean you are conservative. Not by a long shot.
I love my CW9. It is the cheaper version, but I don't care if the slide is milled, as long as it shoots. It is my daily carry and it is easily concealed. I have never had it fail while shooting. The only issue I have is the magazine release is in a bad spot for me. I have been shooting and my thumb has hit it causing a fail. (I consider that a shooter fail, not a gun fail)
I'm not saying it in an insulting manner, but this guy is naturally the class clown. He's a funny guy. But I'm guessing by him growing up around a bunch of serious people damaged him and now as an adult he's lashing out. Thus the "grown ass man" comment.
Thanks for this. Just bought one not knowing much about it because this (PM9) was the only piece in the configuration the store had left and even IT was on consignment. I'm feeling a bit better about it now. Haven't trained with it yet but, one of the knocks is recoil management and flip. Got it for the bride. Hope she can handle it. Thanks again.
I am a big Kahr Fan. It is my Carry Brand and I trust my very Life to my Kahr. It is as big a part of me as the shoes I wear or the keys that I carry everyday. Yes, it isn't perfect, but neither am I. I trust my Kahr Pistol as much as I trust myself.
I bought a Kahr CM9 a few days ago. Was experiencing nosedive jams, apparently Kahr had a bad batch of recoil spring assemblies, because when I contacted Kahr about it they immediately offered to send me a replacement recoil spring assembly without even asking me to try any other ammo or something.
great video. Very helpful. I will definitely seriously look at a Kahr for my first ccw. Wouldn't have considered it prior to your vid. Great work as always!
Most people I know complain about the length of the trigger pull and the reset. I never had an issue with the trigger pull. The reset I didn't like though. being use to double action revolvers, the revolver seems to have more "push back" to reset the trigger. then using DA/SA pistols with short reset. it's taken me some time, but I've been getting use to the trigger since I put the Glock and Beretta PX 4 towards the back of the safe. and only carrying my LCR, and Beretta Nano. But my Kahr K9 is much more "classy" looking! wish they would make the K series in 357 Sig as well!
No, that is not typical. The rails should not look frayed. That is the issue early Kahrs were having and it does effect function since frame flex is what is causing the wear.
Nice to see the recognition. My MK9 has been there And I mean BEEN THERE for me for damn near 15 years. It's MK9 #10(no bullshit) according to the serial number. Everybody that SAYS they wanna carry a gun at all times, then goes out and buys a frickin 20 round capacity pistol, I just laugh...... Good vid man, I think I'm gonna subscribe...... Thanks
I have the Kahr P380. After the first three hundred rounds I began to notice that my slide was shaving off the right side of the polymer frame just above the forward rail. I've now cleared the one thousand round mark and its continued to shave the right side of the frame. Not sure if it's because I'm a right handed shooter or that I slingshot the slide forward with my left hand. But it is something to note on the Polymer frame versions. I purchased mine in early 2011.
I got the CM9, it handles better than my S&W SD9VE. I did get some shaving the first time I took it out. I haven't noticed any more shavings the other few times I took it out so it might have just been a breaking in thing. But if that's something that worrys you and you have the cash go for the alloy frame. I just assume my gun will eventually wear out and I just accept that I probably won't be handing it down to my grand kids one day...🤷♂️
I've never sold or traded any of the Kahrs that I've owned. If you like shooting a revolver then Kahr is the CCW for you. I did end up giving my CW9 to my Dad, along with an XD9sc for his first CCW firearms in Illinois. He bought a Ruger because he thinks he has to have a thumb safety for carry but you know what? He won't send either of them back to me. Some kind of excuse that the FFLs in Il won't send to me in Ca. Harrumph Yankee, some say you are fickle but I'd like to point out that your thoughts are the same for the 40 S&W in this video as it is in your recent Rhino purchase. All of us evolve as we try different avenues/items in life (at least I hope we do) and you've tried a lot of different firearm platforms and I have to applaud you for that. OK, back to our werewolf vs monster hunter rivalry. grrrrrr
It has full rail look in front of the fireblock in the frame you will see 2 stainless rails that run parallel to the guide rod and recoil spring in the front frame and then look closely to the slide by where the guiderod perch is on the front of the slide you will see 2 small cuts where that rides on the inside of the frame very similar to how a CZ-75 does it is ingenius hiw they did this and explains the razor sharp accuracy of these little pocket rockets. Ironically the regular standard rifled barrel produces better velocity specs than the polygonal cut on a chronograph test using the same load and manufacturer's ammo from same box. Making the polygonal cut barrel just a more expensive addition in manufacturing cost to be honest. Like the collection you have going though.
Nice review. It sounds odd but the way you keep adjusting the guns for the camera to keep them in line gives your review more credibility. You definitely seem like a perfectionist or at least like it when a product has that high quality. The positives outweigh the negatives for sure in the Kahrs. I have another one, a K9, on its way in to join a CW9 I use as my conceal carry.
Problems with a 45? Not me. My TP45 is my daily carry pistol and I love it. I have had no problems since its third round many months ago. It does have a long grip length and is not the easiest to hide, but I carry mine in a shoulder holster. The longer grip is great for me. I'll keep my TP45 over any other .45 ACP I own.
@jrvalles The extra weight of course adds some stability but the difference is not huge. The PM40 is a harder on the hands because of the rough textured frame.
If you really want to fall in love with the trigger install a Wolff 5# striker spring. It's still long smooth, safe and reliable. It will bring the trigger pull down to about five pounds.
Great trigger.. a bit long.. Very accurate as well.. only downside I had was a broken recoil spring which locked up the pistol to the point where I had to send it back to Kahr. I learned from the factory they recommend replacing the spring after 1500 rds. I might also add Customer Service was first rate. I should note this was a " ladysmith model " which is in reality a K-9.
Thanks for the video. Your explanation about the trigger mechanism was especially helpful. How is recoil of the Kahr PM 40 compared to the Glock .40 cal? My Glock 22 is a little much to pocket carry and the PM 40 looks almost the same size as some 9mm pocket guns. Thanks again.
On the issue of "Polygonal vs. Lands and Grooves" one of the very best independent studies I have seen simply does not state as you have, an advantage to "Polygonal" barrels. But at the same time it does not sway the advantage to traditional "lands and grooves." One thing for certain, both do the job and do it well. but "the best or better" simply depends from barrel to barrel and ammo to ammo. You can see an excellent example of this here, www.guns.com/2013/12/07/polygonal-lands-grooves-glock-tests-bbti/
Can't believe this old man's been at it for over 11 years now. Always good watching your videos.
My Khar CW9 was the first I purchased. Eventually I added a glock 43 and then a s&w shield. I’ve since gotten rid of the glock and my wife likes the shield. 10 years down the line the CW9 is still my daily.
Nice review. I personally think the 9mm suits these guns much better than the .40, 45. I own the PM9 & P9 in 9mm. Excellent single stack polymer striker fired pistol! Thanks for sharing.
I absolutely love my MK9. Solid and compact, the weight is a none issue in my ankle holster.
27 yrs ago, I went to my favorite sporting goods store. I mozied over by firearms although my juvenile self wasn't that interested in firearms. I seen the newly released Kahr K9. I fell in love immediately. Such a beautiful pistol. The attention to detail was obvious to my novice self. Fast forward many years and hundreds of firearms later. I stumbled upon a Kahr CW9 and was impressed by the quality. The price was far below my expectations for a firearm with this attention to detail. Bought and carried for a few months. I absolutely love the trigger. Literally last night, I could not stand it no longer and bought myself a K9. After all these years, it's funny that through all the different systems I used and carried, the first gun to ever catch my attention checks all my boxes for my wants and needs. I am thinking about buying a second K9 so my daughter and my son won't fight over my Kahr when I am gone!😂🤣😂. Thanks Yankee, I really appreciate the content and your perspectives as well.
Outstanding! CW9, easy disassembly, reassembly, extremely light, easy to conceal, and extremely accurate for it's size. I own a Ruger, Rossi, Sig Sauer, among others, and gave my wife a CW9.
Love my CW45! No issues with the 300 rounds I've put through it so far. I did notice at some shops when I was looking for the best price, some of the CW45 had trigger issues which I pointed out to the shops and those pistols were sent back.
I recently sold my Walther CCP because I did not like the funky takedown, and bought a new Khar CT-9. I love the Kahr smooooth trigger, and my Kahr has worked flawlessly.
They are reliable and super easy to carry. I am surprised at how well they handle the recoil too.
A left wing "gun nut", I love it! His brother has a bushcraft page & I started looking into these pistols off of that. I trust your reviews because I view them as honest & experienced. Thanks for the upload Sir.
Have three Kahr pistols. All have been flawless, reliable performers. Do wish Kahr would make a double stack version.
I haven't experienced customer service for a long long time from anyone like I got from Kahr when I had an issue with a Kahr I have. They don't screw around. I had a NIB CW9 that had an issue with the trigger, emailed Kahr over the weekend, and got a return email first thing that Monday with a next day postage label attached. From the day I mailed my pistol to them (didn't have to pay postage, didn't have to haggle at all with them) to the day I got it back fixed...LESS than one week. No hassles, no haggles, nada. Notations were included on what they did to it. Compare that to a Century rifle I had....took them 6 weeks to sort of fix it, no notations on what they did to it when I got it back. Kahr has certainly earned my respect, and my future business.
BTW, I love my CW9. smooth trigger, reliable, simple (perhaps my favorite feature), light, thin, yet, it has a grip lets you get that third finger on it and makes it very comfortable to shoot, which is not the case with a lot of concealed carry guns out there where you can only get 2 fingers on the grip and your pinky dangles. Real solid little piece of hardware.
A little history lesson. Starting after WW2, the Reverend Sun Myung Moon started the Unification Church. It was and still is considered a cult. Members were referred to as “Moonies”. Very popular in the 70’s. Reverend Moon had two sons, Justin Moon and Hyung Jin Moon. Justin Moon is the founder, CEO, and president of Kahr Arms. Jin Moon is pastor of World Peace and Unification Sanctuary Church, known for holding blessing ceremonies for AR-15 rifles (Wikipedia). I’m glad Justin decided to build firearms instead of being a religious leader. They make some really fine firearms.
I am still in love with my Kahr Pistols after all these years. Just like my wife, Kahrs only get better with age. It's too bad my wife left me for another man.My TP45 is a great carry gun. No problems that I can complain about. Smooth accurate and reliable. Yes, the grip is long, but it's thin and fairly easy to keep covered.
The wisdom from this video gets my vote for best ever
Yankee we need long videos like this more from you they are so enjoyable
Currently running the MK9 for EDC. I carry either on an Alessi belt slide or their ankle holster. One should note that when cleaning, make sure you pull the firing pin and q-tip the recess very throughly. The Kahr has a unique fire control that cocks the striker as the slide moves into battery. This keeps the firing pin protruding throughout the ejection cycle and causes more then a normal amount of brass to sheer from the case head. This brass finds its way into the firing pin recess and could cause a ftf if not removed.
If you want to upgrade to Kahrs full length SS guide rod, you're expected to disassemble the existing telescoping guide rod (thereby ruining it) and reassemble parts onto the new one.
Just revisited this video. Excellent content, very informative, and entertaining as always. I was just scrolling through the comments and noticed all the trolling you have been subjected to. I just wanted to say I've been a long time subscriber and appreciate your work. Your self-deprecating sense of humor is a courageous attribute, considering all the crabs in this pot.
This is an old video. I have ran out of actual information since I made this one.
Just going through some of your other videos and found this. I think the Kahr T9 is probably one of the prettiest pistols that I've ever seen. A friend of mine had on and it was immediate lust when I saw it. That lust remains unfulfilled. Occasionally I'll look one up on the internet and stare at it.
I do that with the khar k9 😆
It always has your back! Carrying is like having a back support
This guy humans4targets2 made a video saying the Kahr was a bad gun because the trigger, it's an excellent trigger, especially if you like good revolver triggers. I love revolvers so I find Kahrs very nice, and simple to use.
2-1 BrAvO Noticed he turned off the comments. He said the trigger is dangerous if you have to hold someone at gunpoint since it is hard to tell where it breaks.
@rothschadel They are great guns that I think get overlooked way too often. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Funny you mentioned Glock 40s blowing up in your hand I had a Glock blow out a large section of the base of the case partially ejecting the magazine when i was shooting one day. It was a friends gun and he was a witness to this having happened. as well as a piece of the brass partially embedding in my face.
Yankee, Great video. I like the way you just state for people to look at a Kahr. That does not mean that a Kahr is the right gun some people. There are so many variables that come into play when considering a gun to purchase and or carry. Lastly, about all the comments about safety checking on video. A weapon should be safety checked each time it is picked up. It has nothing to do with being on camera or not. Keep up the good work!
Drives me crazy when people feel they need to record the safety check. I guess you have to please all the hall monitors on RUclips .
Yea me to
On the contrary, there are still way too many dumb people out there, showing a safety check every time helps to hopefully drill it into their feeble memories.
sunrisesurfbum The Darwin Award winner will get their award irregardless of showing the safety checks, just skip over it like 99% of people do.
it's a good habit to reinforce. can't hurt.
@@MrChaes do it for you dont do it for the viewer
Love my CM9! My CM9 is the most reliable carry piece iv ever owned, about 1,000 rounds or more through it and not a single malfunction, very very reliable and accurate, I am a commercial refrigeration tech and get dirt, lint, and all kinds if crap in my gun and take it to the range and fire it with the ammo in the mag I carry to make sure it will function properly after the crap its been through and have yet to have any issue, even put 500 rounds through it didn't clean it, carried it for 2-3 months and took it to the range without it being so much as dusted or blown off and it functioned flawlessly, just my 2cents and experience.
I bought a used CW40. It had been shot so few times there weren't any rub marks on the barrel yet. But, it already had a bent slide stop spring. After straightening the spring it gave me no problems. But I have had other issues with mags dropping out and once I had a trigger fail. Kahr is sending me a new spring, mag catch, and follower. I cleaned and lubed the trigger bar and cam. I have fired over 200 rounds and it seems to be reliable as long as the mag stays in, no FTF probs. Hopefully the new parts will resolve that.
I was worried about the frame shaving too, was told by kahr that all polymer frames will bite until "break in" period is complete, and to their defense, the metal guide rails built into the game are still fully intact.
I love, love, love my MK9. Been reliable and accurate from day one. Had mine for well over a decade now and it's been great. It's been my off duty carry gun of choice for a long time.
I have a TP45, P45 and PM45. Each on runs great. In fact the P45 might actually be my favorite Kahr.
I bought a Kahr PM40 back in 2001 from a gun shop in Dallas Texas that had a shooting range I didn't even get through two mags before the rail broke on the slide couldn't even shoot the gun but fortunately since I was still there I took it right back in and got the steel version k40 I've had the gun ever since and I've never had a misfire with it. Looking for a lighter gun now so maybe I'll look at PM again. Good video THANKS
I have put just over 500 rounds down the pipe in my pm45 without any problems must say a really nice CCW with lots of stopping power! very very happy with it
My PM9 has been flawless with Winchester white box ammo, same with my PM45. Originally had to send the PM45 back for feed issues- they repaired and polished everything, but eventually I just wised up and learned my Kahrs only like certain brands of ammo. I also have a T40 now and it shoots perfectly as well.
I've been carrying a PM9 for about 2 years now and couldn't be happier with it. I shoot at least 21 rounds through it most weeks (6+1 capacity, my hand loads) so it's approaching 2,000 rounds and has never had a failure of any type. I think the way the mag fits is by design, to make it easier for the mag catch to engage with the magazine. Some pistols you have to smack the mag pretty good to make sure the mag catch engages, not so with a Kahr.
I have carried the Kahr PPS (9mm) for just over a year as my EDC.
The points made here are all good and valid.
Two things I am not delighted with:
1) The 200+ round break in period.
2) When reassembling the gun after cleaning, I find it annoyingly fidgety to push the slide release pin back through the gun's frame. Fortunately Kahr has a RUclips video clearly showing how to do it, but it is still a pain.
My first Kahr, during the .380 fad was the P380.
I had some problems with that one and, while I didn't need to send it back, had uneven experiences with e-mailing Kahr's customer service.
In all fairness, this was back in 2011, YMMV.
It was finally recommended that I only use good quality, American made ammo and that seemed to make a difference. Now I would just like to sell the .380 since I only carry the PM9.
BTW, I would rather carry my Walther PPS more.
I feel it is a better quality gun and 100% reliable.
Unfortunately, the slim, light Kahr PM9 is so comfortable to carry you want to carry it everywhere you can, every time. And that my friends is key if you make the decision to concealed carry. No gun, no matter how excellent, will be of any use if left at home.
Nice video. I've had three Kahr's along with 3 other vendors. I've put at least 1000 rounds through each Kahr and have had zero problems. I even dropped a loaded PM9 on concrete once with thankfully no discharge. The low weight is a huge advantage for me.
As mentioned in the video by TheYankeeMarshal, the P45 pistols may be pushing things too far. I purchased a new one in 2016 and followed the manufacturer's break-in procedure of 300-rounds and noticed the following defects: 1) barrel lock-up area had become peened and damaged, returned to Kahr and they replaced the barrel; 2) would not feed hollow point ammunition; 3) frequent jamming with FMJ ammunition; and 4) plastic was being shaved of the plastic portion of the frame rails
I have a CW40 and a K40 Covert and love them both. Plus, I've had no problems with either.
I had 3 Kahrs, PM9, CM40 and CM45. I only had issues with the CM45. The 45 version was throwing the brass straight to my forehead. I sent it back 3 times to the company for service but unfortunately they were unable to fix the issue. I got a replacement.. in 9mm.
They didn't fix the original issue but their customer service was wonderful.... from the gunsmiths to the customer service director they are awesome. Excellent job!
I put off buying a kahr when I saw the price on their budget lines (c series) thinking that low price meant low quality. I ended up getting a ct9 at a really good price and now I absolutely love them. great firearm, amazing trigger!
Mixteddd you ever have a rough break in period? I just bought one and have yet to fire it. its the ct40 but how was your experience?
My first gun show I went to, I bought a Kahr CW 40. Very smart decision on my part. It has been my carry gun for 4-5 years. I love it. Only thing I didn't like was only one mag. There was a magazine lady at the show though that got me two mags for a few dollars cheaper than KAHR's website. I had those a couple months after I bought the gun, when the gun show came to my town.
Great video, helped me make the decision to replace my pps with a kahr p9, I've owned a cm9 and loved the trigger, getting the p9 for $400 used
About the best low down info on kahr I have found on Utube, thanks for the vid. Now Ive got to pick a model..
The Kahr may not be my preferred gun, but it is a pretty good one.
They will on a Kahr because the slide rides on a set of secondary polymer rails. If the frame flexes under heavy loads it becomes an issue. It has caused them a lot of trouble in the past.
I own the first run Kahr in 9mm and it is a well thought out and engineered gun from the get go. Personally, love the trigger; you can feel the break coming so it's kinda like line bifocals versus no-line, a smooth and controllable transition. The quality of the barrel was well covered in this review, so kudos on that. It is a heavy piece, so I agree with the reviewer that the Polymer .40 is ideal for everyday easy carry. .40 cal has given the .45 a real run for the money. So, all considering the reviewer nailed it.
My PM40 breaks so smoothly, I can't tell before it fires. Not at all like my duty Glock 23. In fact, had trouble qualifying with the Kahr because they're so different. Ended up with a 27 for backup.
I bought a used pm40 black diamond for 300 dollars used and the frame was cracked.
I sent it in to Kahr, told them the story , 8 weeks later I got my pistol back with a new frame , no charge!
I am a Kahr customer for life.
william gardner really? Good to know. I bought a p40 and it had a pin walking.
Great review. I have a Kahr K9 Elite and I love it. It shoots great and is my favorite range gun. I prefer the higher capacity of my glock for home defense however.
Thank you for this review. I recently bought a Kahr CW9 as a back up to my Sig Sauer daily carry. It is a great gun for the price point and I am looking at purchasing a MK40. Really impressed with the Kahr.
I forgot that Yankee got his start by talking about guns. Those were the days. Love that mk40.
I LOVE MY KAHRS.NEVER A PROBLEM...BEST TRIGGER PULL.I HAVE THE CW380 AND THE CW45.....LOVE YOUR VIDS..
Very nice review, thank you YankeeMarshal. I leaning towards purchasing a PM9 in burnt bronze.
I have never had issues with my Kahr pistols. I friend had bad issues with one of the first PM40's though. It was before they changed the polymer and the frame would flex and the polymer rails would cause the gun to jam.
The CW9 was my first Kahr too.
“Kahr’s are really high quality and reliable”.
*CW380 enters the chat*
Cw9 was my first pistol, can't ever see myself getting rid of it. Picked it up used and have put about 600 rounds through it without a single issue, shoots nice, feels nice, accurate and easily concealed in my kholster
Very detailed video. Thank you for sharing.
This has always been a big debate. As far as I can see the accuracy difference is so small it will not make much difference for the average shooter.
One thing to keep in mind is that striker type fire control systems are not design compatible with the Browning tilt breach short recoil action. There are a lot of things that gun designers do to get around this incompatibility, otherwise the firing pin tip would snap off before you empty the first magazine. However, even with those design fixes, you can still end up with a carry gun going "click" at the very worst time.
Every single striker gun made today disagrees with you... Glock, XD, M&P etc are extremely common and don't have issues.
Thanks for posting this video. One thing I'd like to see is, a comparison of the Ruger LC9s Pro to which ever Kahr model comes closest in size. I'm just curious how the lower prices Ruger would compare with the build quality of the Kahr pistols.
Good points. Polls show, time after time, that corporate CEOs are usually split on the conservative/liberal and Republican/Democrat political spectrum. They reflect the overall general voting patterns of the American voting public. Just because you make the BIG bucks doesn't mean you are conservative. Not by a long shot.
I love my CW9. It is the cheaper version, but I don't care if the slide is milled, as long as it shoots. It is my daily carry and it is easily concealed. I have never had it fail while shooting. The only issue I have is the magazine release is in a bad spot for me. I have been shooting and my thumb has hit it causing a fail. (I consider that a shooter fail, not a gun fail)
Good video Yankee ! Your videos have changed a lot over the years.
I really like this guys early videos. Not all this silly dancing yelling I'm a grown ass man.
I'm not saying it in an insulting manner, but this guy is naturally the class clown. He's a funny guy. But I'm guessing by him growing up around a bunch of serious people damaged him and now as an adult he's lashing out. Thus the "grown ass man" comment.
That's Funny!
Thanks for this. Just bought one not knowing much about it because this (PM9) was the only piece in the configuration the store had left and even IT was on consignment.
I'm feeling a bit better about it now. Haven't trained with it yet but, one of the knocks is recoil management and flip. Got it for the bride. Hope she can handle it. Thanks again.
I am a big Kahr Fan. It is my Carry Brand and I trust my very Life to my Kahr. It is as big a part of me as the shoes I wear or the keys that I carry everyday. Yes, it isn't perfect, but neither am I. I trust my Kahr Pistol as much as I trust myself.
I bought a Kahr CM9 a few days ago. Was experiencing nosedive jams, apparently Kahr had a bad batch of recoil spring assemblies, because when I contacted Kahr about it they immediately offered to send me a replacement recoil spring assembly without even asking me to try any other ammo or something.
My favorite EDC khar ct9 and my duty pistol.
great video. Very helpful. I will definitely seriously look at a Kahr for my first ccw. Wouldn't have considered it prior to your vid.
Great work as always!
Most people I know complain about the length of the trigger pull and the reset. I never had an issue with the trigger pull. The reset I didn't like though. being use to double action revolvers, the revolver seems to have more "push back" to reset the trigger. then using DA/SA pistols with short reset. it's taken me some time, but I've been getting use to the trigger since I put the Glock and Beretta PX 4 towards the back of the safe. and only carrying my LCR, and Beretta Nano. But my Kahr K9 is much more "classy" looking! wish they would make the K series in 357 Sig as well!
No, that is not typical. The rails should not look frayed. That is the issue early Kahrs were having and it does effect function since frame flex is what is causing the wear.
Nice to see the recognition. My MK9 has been there And I mean BEEN THERE for me for damn near 15 years. It's MK9 #10(no bullshit) according to the serial number. Everybody that SAYS they wanna carry a gun at all times, then goes out and buys a frickin 20 round capacity pistol, I just laugh...... Good vid man, I think I'm gonna subscribe...... Thanks
Your right...thanks for helping me relax.
@nathan00campbell I have no idea. I do know the made some minor changes to the PM40 shortly after it was introduced. Maybe those were the changes.
I have the Kahr P380. After the first three hundred rounds I began to notice that my slide was shaving off the right side of the polymer frame just above the forward rail. I've now cleared the one thousand round mark and its continued to shave the right side of the frame. Not sure if it's because I'm a right handed shooter or that I slingshot the slide forward with my left hand. But it is something to note on the Polymer frame versions. I purchased mine in early 2011.
Thanks I was getting obsessed with Kahr lately.😂
I got the CM9, it handles better than my S&W SD9VE. I did get some shaving the first time I took it out. I haven't noticed any more shavings the other few times I took it out so it might have just been a breaking in thing. But if that's something that worrys you and you have the cash go for the alloy frame. I just assume my gun will eventually wear out and I just accept that I probably won't be handing it down to my grand kids one day...🤷♂️
Also, the slide release lever is 2-piece, with the axis free to pivot.
Still waiting on my S&W 640 Pro to come in - now your making me want a Kahr.
@Voyeur12 Yes, I actually did a video segment about that but cut it because of length.
I've never sold or traded any of the Kahrs that I've owned. If you like shooting a revolver then Kahr is the CCW for you.
I did end up giving my CW9 to my Dad, along with an XD9sc for his first CCW firearms in Illinois. He bought a Ruger because he thinks he has to have a thumb safety for carry but you know what? He won't send either of them back to me. Some kind of excuse that the FFLs in Il won't send to me in Ca. Harrumph
Yankee, some say you are fickle but I'd like to point out that your thoughts are the same for the 40 S&W in this video as it is in your recent Rhino purchase. All of us evolve as we try different avenues/items in life (at least I hope we do) and you've tried a lot of different firearm platforms and I have to applaud you for that.
OK, back to our werewolf vs monster hunter rivalry. grrrrrr
Great looking pistols, especially the MK and K40.
Great informative vid. I love the comedy ones too, but hope to see some more like this one day
It has full rail look in front of the fireblock in the frame you will see 2 stainless rails that run parallel to the guide rod and recoil spring in the front frame and then look closely to the slide by where the guiderod perch is on the front of the slide you will see 2 small cuts where that rides on the inside of the frame very similar to how a CZ-75 does it is ingenius hiw they did this and explains the razor sharp accuracy of these little pocket rockets. Ironically the regular standard rifled barrel produces better velocity specs than the polygonal cut on a chronograph test using the same load and manufacturer's ammo from same box. Making the polygonal cut barrel just a more expensive addition in manufacturing cost to be honest. Like the collection you have going though.
Nice review. It sounds odd but the way you keep adjusting the guns for the camera to keep them in line gives your review more credibility. You definitely seem like a perfectionist or at least like it when a product has that high quality. The positives outweigh the negatives for sure in the Kahrs. I have another one, a K9, on its way in to join a CW9 I use as my conceal carry.
GREAT REVIEW. I ENJOY EVER ONE YOU DO. THANKS MUCH
Problems with a 45? Not me. My TP45 is my daily carry pistol and I love it. I have had no problems since its third round many months ago. It does have a long grip length and is not the easiest to hide, but I carry mine in a shoulder holster. The longer grip is great for me. I'll keep my TP45 over any other .45 ACP I own.
@jrvalles The extra weight of course adds some stability but the difference is not huge. The PM40 is a harder on the hands because of the rough textured frame.
They are a nice shooting pistol with ACCURACY. I would love to get my hands on one of them.
It does not bother me. It was the son taking his dad's money and doing something decent with it.
If you really want to fall in love with the trigger install a Wolff 5# striker spring. It's still long smooth, safe and reliable. It will bring the trigger pull down to about five pounds.
@JPBill2 I am not sure how you make that comparison. 1911 mags fit flush and even with the magwell.
No, the differences are mostly finishing things and other small manufacturing/accessory differences. (sights, barrel rifling, slide finishing, etc)
Great trigger.. a bit long.. Very accurate as well.. only downside I had was a broken recoil spring which locked up the pistol to the point where I had to send it back to Kahr. I learned from the factory they recommend replacing the spring after 1500 rds. I might also add Customer Service was first rate. I should note this was a " ladysmith model " which is in reality a K-9.
Thanks for the video. Your explanation about the trigger mechanism was especially helpful.
How is recoil of the Kahr PM 40 compared to the Glock .40 cal? My Glock 22 is a little much to pocket carry and the PM 40 looks almost the same size as some 9mm pocket guns.
Thanks again.
I have Kahr CW45 and the gun has about 400 Rounds thru it and it functions flawlessly
On the issue of "Polygonal vs. Lands and Grooves" one of the very best independent studies I have seen simply does not state as you have, an advantage to "Polygonal" barrels. But at the same time it does not sway the advantage to traditional "lands and grooves." One thing for certain, both do the job and do it well. but "the best or better" simply depends from barrel to barrel and ammo to ammo. You can see an excellent example of this here,
www.guns.com/2013/12/07/polygonal-lands-grooves-glock-tests-bbti/
You should be talking about the reliability of the 380 because of all the jamming problems.
Like your videos and your honesty about your politics.
Keep up the honest reviews.
You've got yourself a new fan.