Exactly,that's why I only buy 3rd party ones,which is kinda sad because you really can't compare the official joycons to official PS4 and Xbox One controllers,which have far better quality for the price and they are cheaper too.
We're going into the fourth year of the switch I'm shocked we don't have spot-on knockoffs yet. at this rate by the time the switch is finally disconnected they'll finally perfect it Lol.
@Mike UK Dude let people believe in whatever they want. We don't know if God is real, if there's a afterlife, etc. If you don't believe in it then that's fine but don't be a dick about it.
Not surprised that they exist. They've been selling nearly every part of the Joycon for those of us repairing these things. A good thing since Nintendo doesn't sell replacement parts to the general public.
@Dan Smith and @Sharqo. Just curious, were the cracking issues due to normal wear and tear or something else? I've owned 2 ds lites, dsi, 3ds, and 3ds xl without any issues. I've even been kind of rough with a couple of them too,lol.
@Dan Smith The Switch stuff may not be as quality as their old consoles, but they're still a hell of a lot better than the competition. Ive had my Switch since launch, and havent had a single issue (ive even dropped it). I bought a ps4 in late 2018 and have had CONSTANT problems with the system and controller.
@@basketpourrie That sucks. I think that happened to a friend of mine who had one of the pokeman special editions. I guess I just got lucky, cause my dumbass got pissed off years ago and threw it, but was totally fine,lol.
One time I closed my ds and it cracked.. The funny thing was I did it carefully too since the first time my DS cracked it was because I was being rough. My 3ds never cracked, but it has an issue where when dust gets in the should buttons they don't function properly..
@@Zhinoi i got the beboncool with the turbo utton and its petty good it feels just as sensitive as the real joy cons but feels limited in the directions it can turn. still kick ass in BotW though.
Yeah me too, but sadly Spawnwave is a casual guy, isn't very proficient in testing Controllers for real(like a player from the FGC), you would need to see someone like NihongoGamer for that. Since he plays fighting games and knows exactly what you need to do complicated stuff like pull of 360º x2 with Zangief and the classic motions like 236236 or 623 etc.
@@MikeVoss Define "decent"? I will give them the comfort advantage over the actual controllers but in terms of actual quality and responsiveness ehh maybe not so much...
If Nintendo priced theirs reasonably (with improved build quality) there would be no need for these. Fully on board getting some to give to the younger players.
Honestly, as long as they are not advertised as official joycons, and as long as they are not advertised as having HD rumble or the IR sensor, these sound like a pretty good deal. It'd be nice to have a set of these to have as more "expendable" joycons, to put less wear on the regular ones.
Im hoping they dont as well.. so far 2 pairs of my Nintendo joycons and the pro controller have all drifted within 2 months.. but the knockoff pro controller I have is still perfectly fine after almost a year.... 😑 So if they dont drift then it's well worth the $35-40.. Much better than the $200+ I've spent on defective Nintendo brand controllers!
it isn't hard, it's just that the tiny sticks on the OG joycons use slider pads instead of full size potentiometers. moving the stick causes the contact surface of the slider pad to slowly get worn off and cause drifting. the psp has a similar stick and it has the exact same issue.
It’s because of money. Plain and simple. Back in the day, most companies made controllers to last, because they cared about the customers experience. While they still do now, they also have become greedy money lovers. So they purposefully make them less quality. So you have to spend more money. Scummy? Yes. But this is the world we live in now
I probably know the answer to this already but, do they have NFC functionality? Awesome video as ever. Looking forward to your next GameCube pick up video. Also epic shirt as always.
No. When he took it apart there wasn’t an NFC reader, but if you’re using these as a player 2 controller or just don’t own any Amiibo at all it’s really not a big deal.
Considering that it's been impossible to find REAL joycon controllers as of late this might be a viable option for some. I'm personally hoping that Nintendo simply does a joy con revision to address the drifting issue which has shown up on both sets of my joycon in the near future.
I actually bought a pair of these because joy-con prices in my country are unreal ($90 or sometimes more!!). So far so good, has every feature I need and I turn off vibration on controllers anyways, so the “SD” rumble doesn’t affect me. Oh, and I got it in white color, since Nintendo doesn’t sell those separately :)
Fakes are getting scary these days. I've been buying fake Transformers Masterpieces (look them up). They are a tiny fraction of the cost of the real ones and almost virtually identical straight down to the box and manual. These days, a lot of these companies have access to the actual molds, patents or simply reverse engineer. Quality control is where you are going to have issues but otherwise, bootlegs are pretty stunning these days.
Yea alot of Chinese knockoffs can be pretty damn close to the original. As you said that's due to them actually using materials that are meant for the official products.
@@vincentd.allenii3310 eBay is your best bet. It's probably not an ideal time to buy them since they ship from China so it would take forever. Make sure to bid on the ones with feedback. There are a lot of scams. If the price is too good to be true, it is.
You know, I almost wanted to ask about Amiibo functionality in the event that was "and more" but as someone who has been inside Joy Cons and knows what I'm looking for, seeing the inside of a right Joy Con with nothing there tells me the answer is no lol
Christopher Ricca yeah, I’ve had my same two pairs of joy cons for over 2 years with no drift, I’m just saying these fake joy cons likely will drift just as much as the normal ones
I hate those bootlegs that look exactly as the originals, because then the market gets filled with knock-offs and you end up buying that crap on accident
Had those for about a year now. Plasticky compering to original. The click on button will go first very quickly so they will go off easily, and the right trigger got stuck. Overall triggers are so so... They dont work well with Ring Fit, theres no IR, disconnecting many times. I would say they good only for secondary. The do connect and update like normal JoyCons.
The fake joy cons are pretty good. I had no choice but to buy it at the time the pandemic first started because the real joy cons were sold out every where. I didn't even notice that it was fake until I received them. The only thing I don't like is if you want to play the switch on your tv, the fake joy cons don't fit into the hand controllers like the real ones do. My son was alittle disappointed about that.😒😒😒😒
HORI ( Split Pad Pro) Honestly the only way i use handheld anymore. I've got 4 different grips for Joycon but at the end of the day they still feel like a toy. nothing comes close to the Split Pad. (For handheld play) Highly under rated product.
Not sure if I’d ever buy the fake stuff, but I did replace the joy stick on the right joy con due to terrible drift. I actually watched your tutorial on replacing a stick and used the same one you used from amazon, still working perfectly to this day.
I bought a knockoff switch pro controller last month and opened it up. It actually uses a similar kind of hd rumble motor found in the legit nintendo ones. The only problem is that it's noisy af lmao
I have a pair and honestly, you can’t tell the difference. The only difference is that it says Nintendo on the original ones. I’m so impressed by the knock offs ones!!!
I'm curious if these can be used for a shell swap? (...would the guts fit into another joy-con housing?) ...and, if you bought a proper replacement vibration motor, could you upgrade it? (...is the connection to the circut-board the same?)
Sean McKinney I would just buy spare joycon shells, those are readily available on eBay and much cheaper and less wasteful. Plus the right joycon doesn't have the sensor on the bottom. And the interval molding is probably very different
Nintendo Sports wanted to upgrade the controller firmware and I couldn't figure out how to get these to upgrade. The normal way just says it can't connect to the controller.
Are they compatible with the charger grip, attachable straps with the built in L and R buttons, and the nintendo switch ergonomic grip stand? If so, I'm getting these from here on out.
Hey, there is a cutout for the HD ruble motor and the connection looks the same... Could you please try and put a real HD rumble pack in these? I would love to see how the fake joycon will react.
Ok. They look nice. But do they have a better wireless connection? I have the second version of the Nintendo Joycons and I have literally to play less than a matter away from the console to not have any distinction. 20 or 30 centimeters more apart and both start to have connectivity issues.
Them selling their own joycons for $70 is pretty bad. Me and my family bought a used switch with a defective R trigger and a joycon with out a rubber cap. I hope these will help, though.
I know it's an old vid, but I wonder if you could put a replacement HD rumble motor in it, and if it would work correctly? It looks like it uses the same plug as the one in the real Joycon, so just a curiosity, particularly since the cavity is still there.
Question I got a pair of new joy cons for Christmas the packaging looks good it’s just that the home button and the abxy buttons are on the opposite joy con colot can they just come like that or are they fake?
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Joy-Cons: *not drifting*
Me: *F A K E*
Fax
Fax but did u know real joycons 80% get drift
lmao🤣
Straight outta the box?!
The official joy cons are overpriced for how shitty the quality is and drift issues. They shouldnt be pricing the official ones for more then $50.
When i got a switch i was so surprised to find ps4 controllers cheaper when joycons have such shit quality for $80
I mean they have a good amount of tech in each joycon, I'd definitely still say that doesn't justify the failings of the joycons though
Exactly,that's why I only buy 3rd party ones,which is kinda sad because you really can't compare the official joycons to official PS4 and Xbox One controllers,which have far better quality for the price and they are cheaper too.
They cost so much because they have more technology in them then other controllers. I’m not tryna excuse drift tho
Yeah, but still, who uses joy-cons for anything else than portable gaming anyways.
0:54 is he expecting us to leave?
Yes I left then came back
Bruh
Pretty interesting seeing these knock offs getting closer and closer to the real thing.
it will be funny if they dont have the joycon drift
dusty reaper it will be the best
@@dusty_reaper96 if its using the same stick part as a real joy con, then it would have drift eventually.
@@charbound it is
We're going into the fourth year of the switch I'm shocked we don't have spot-on knockoffs yet.
at this rate by the time the switch is finally disconnected they'll finally perfect it Lol.
If you died and thought you went to heaven, but still experience joycon drift, then you're actually in hell.
Mike UK shots fired
@Mike UK I don't believe in it either, but we're all free to believe in what we choose, don't be an atheist douche.
@Mike UK Dude let people believe in whatever they want. We don't know if God is real, if there's a afterlife, etc. If you don't believe in it then that's fine but don't be a dick about it.
Mike UK wow man you really got us there damn you’re so cool
satan is truly evil for that
Not surprised that they exist. They've been selling nearly every part of the Joycon for those of us repairing these things. A good thing since Nintendo doesn't sell replacement parts to the general public.
And Nintendo use their own screws on the joycon to prevent us to fix it.
@@TheHitman644 are you talking about triwing screws? It's easy to buy a triwing screwdriver online
@@CrashFan03 they strip so easily its annoying
When the real ones definitely wouldn’t be up for the Nintendo seal of quality it must not exactly be hard to make some
@Dan Smith nah they always had flaws. I mean look at the cracking ds lite
@Dan Smith and @Sharqo. Just curious, were the cracking issues due to normal wear and tear or something else? I've owned 2 ds lites, dsi, 3ds, and 3ds xl without any issues. I've even been kind of rough with a couple of them too,lol.
@Dan Smith The Switch stuff may not be as quality as their old consoles, but they're still a hell of a lot better than the competition. Ive had my Switch since launch, and havent had a single issue (ive even dropped it).
I bought a ps4 in late 2018 and have had CONSTANT problems with the system and controller.
@@basketpourrie That sucks. I think that happened to a friend of mine who had one of the pokeman special editions. I guess I just got lucky, cause my dumbass got pissed off years ago and threw it, but was totally fine,lol.
One time I closed my ds and it cracked.. The funny thing was I did it carefully too since the first time my DS cracked it was because I was being rough. My 3ds never cracked, but it has an issue where when dust gets in the should buttons they don't function properly..
I’m curious about the sticks. The bootleg pro controller has a weird dead zone around the edges. Wondering if these have the same
Get the beboncool knock off. 28 bucks and it works better than the pro controller
@@Zhinoi i got the beboncool with the turbo utton and its petty good it feels just as sensitive as the real joy cons but feels limited in the directions it can turn. still kick ass in BotW though.
Drip media!!!!! Love ur vids😁
Yeah me too, but sadly Spawnwave is a casual guy, isn't very proficient in testing Controllers for real(like a player from the FGC), you would need to see someone like NihongoGamer for that. Since he plays fighting games and knows exactly what you need to do complicated stuff like pull of 360º x2 with Zangief and the classic motions like 236236 or 623 etc.
Joeshi?! Haha thanks!!!!
Shame we'll never get to give our friends the Mad Catz Joy Cons when they come over
Pure evil! I never wasted my money on a single MadCatz item.
There’s always the dragon quest slime controller
@@thomashernandez6536 Made decent gamecube controllers
@@MikeVoss Define "decent"? I will give them the comfort advantage over the actual controllers but in terms of actual quality and responsiveness ehh maybe not so much...
If Nintendo priced theirs reasonably (with improved build quality) there would be no need for these. Fully on board getting some to give to the younger players.
I may consider getting a pair if they do not drift.
they use the exact same analog stick's
Meh
if anything, gut it for the joystick if you're not intimidated by messing around with the internals.
Can i change the shells
Same sticks but still a lot cheaper
Honestly, as long as they are not advertised as official joycons, and as long as they are not advertised as having HD rumble or the IR sensor, these sound like a pretty good deal. It'd be nice to have a set of these to have as more "expendable" joycons, to put less wear on the regular ones.
I mean, if they don't drift, I'm cool.
It’s the same sticks that the joy con use so they will drift.
AVD I’ve replaced my official joy con sticks with some ones from China and they’ve gone a whole year now without drifting
Im hoping they dont as well.. so far 2 pairs of my Nintendo joycons and the pro controller have all drifted within 2 months.. but the knockoff pro controller I have is still perfectly fine after almost a year.... 😑
So if they dont drift then it's well worth the $35-40..
Much better than the $200+ I've spent on defective Nintendo brand controllers!
Isaac my original Switch joycon went three years without drifting, while a new pair started drifting in a month. It’s just the joycon lottery.
Same
Honestly if a friend passed this to me for a quick round of smash bros or something, I wouldn’t even notice
It's so good
Really enjoying the content and keep checking the older tech videos. I have no idea about these stuff but I find the narration fascinating.
Why is it so hard to make a working stick these days when decades old ones worked just fine?
because sensitive trackers for them cost money, so the good ones are not in wish-grade controllers because it would bump the price.
Well idk because joy stick design has not changed for 20 years. The ps1 joy stick and every other are so similar
it isn't hard, it's just that the tiny sticks on the OG joycons use slider pads instead of full size potentiometers. moving the stick causes the contact surface of the slider pad to slowly get worn off and cause drifting. the psp has a similar stick and it has the exact same issue.
OwlPlaysSiege OG? The joy cons joy sticks have not changed
It’s because of money. Plain and simple. Back in the day, most companies made controllers to last, because they cared about the customers experience. While they still do now, they also have become greedy money lovers. So they purposefully make them less quality. So you have to spend more money. Scummy? Yes. But this is the world we live in now
I want to hear about this again after a month of use.
Knockoffs wouldn't need to exist if Nintendo didn't charge an arm and a leg for a replacement pair. Seriously, $70 is way too fucking much.
You got to tell us where you get your shirts they are amazing
Hummmmm I might pick these up just to throw some aftermarket shells on them
I probably know the answer to this already but, do they have NFC functionality?
Awesome video as ever. Looking forward to your next GameCube pick up video. Also epic shirt as always.
Yeah I had the same question. But I probably doubt that it does.
@@cezarresand my thoughts also.
No. When he took it apart there wasn’t an NFC reader, but if you’re using these as a player 2 controller or just don’t own any Amiibo at all it’s really not a big deal.
Probably why there so cheap
I have other questions - does it fit into the Joy-con grip? And does it have a gyroscope?
The real question is do they last longer then 4 weeks.
Considering that it's been impossible to find REAL joycon controllers as of late this might be a viable option for some. I'm personally hoping that Nintendo simply does a joy con revision to address the drifting issue which has shown up on both sets of my joycon in the near future.
Anyone find the link? I see others that look different
Check the description of this video. The controllers are sold out.
Oh damn my bad ppl, i just saw that part in the description
Hopefully they restock
There's another listing on Aliexpress which have the exact same Joy Cons.
Link to the joycons?
Very surprised to see that they wake up the Switch. My 50$ 8BitDo SN30 Pro+ can't do that.
I wish they could change that but I’m assuming there is something specific or that it has to be an official third party like the power a controllers
John: How is Bluetooth performance on non-Nintendo devices, i.e. Android? Does it have the same terrible delay the OG joy-con do?
I have the same question. Please test it with android
I actually bought a pair of these because joy-con prices in my country are unreal ($90 or sometimes more!!). So far so good, has every feature I need and I turn off vibration on controllers anyways, so the “SD” rumble doesn’t affect me. Oh, and I got it in white color, since Nintendo doesn’t sell those separately :)
5:23 NOOO, TAILS!
Sonic:(keeps running)
mother of God i finally have the same shirt as Spawn Wave....now i gotta find the Sonic, Tails, Knuckles shirt
Fakes are getting scary these days. I've been buying fake Transformers Masterpieces (look them up). They are a tiny fraction of the cost of the real ones and almost virtually identical straight down to the box and manual. These days, a lot of these companies have access to the actual molds, patents or simply reverse engineer. Quality control is where you are going to have issues but otherwise, bootlegs are pretty stunning these days.
Yea alot of Chinese knockoffs can be pretty damn close to the original. As you said that's due to them actually using materials that are meant for the official products.
Can you dm a few links to the ones you've bought, please?
@@vincentd.allenii3310 eBay is your best bet. It's probably not an ideal time to buy them since they ship from China so it would take forever. Make sure to bid on the ones with feedback. There are a lot of scams. If the price is too good to be true, it is.
You know, I almost wanted to ask about Amiibo functionality in the event that was "and more" but as someone who has been inside Joy Cons and knows what I'm looking for, seeing the inside of a right Joy Con with nothing there tells me the answer is no lol
If they don't drift like a tricked out Corolla then Nintendo should be worried.
The most important question is, does it solved the issue of “Joy Con Drift” ?
I think they use the same sticks as the normal joy-cons soooo probably not
Luke Jones that is disappointing.
Luke Jones I’ve had them for months and no more drift.
Christopher Ricca yeah, I’ve had my same two pairs of joy cons for over 2 years with no drift, I’m just saying these fake joy cons likely will drift just as much as the normal ones
Ev'ixyn *does it solve
Good video, but one thing you didn't test and that I think is also missing is the NFC sensor. WIthout that the price drops significantly as well.
I 100% thought the final test would be the hammer test
The original Joy Cons are so cheap that fake ones feels almost like the original ones 😅
Im kinda interested to see what will show up if you check the serial numbers
1:47 I think it’s trying to say that the controller is compatible with any game that displays joycons as a supported controller.
Where's link for them I want to get them so I have some joy cons for the grip
7:20 I would love to see if that rumble motor could be replaced. I imagine it could be possible.
a lot of the knock offs use the regular stock photos that Nintendo use
does the right joy-con have the amiibo reader?
wheres the link to buy it?
Too bad you couldn't give us the link
From the titles I thought the sticks were going to turn out to be superior to the official ones.
I mean it's from China so probably at least 70% of it is official hardware.
The sticks seem to be just off the shelf parts seeing as how you can just bulk buy them from China.
I wonder if that's why they can't fix the drift.
I hate those bootlegs that look exactly as the originals, because then the market gets filled with knock-offs and you end up buying that crap on accident
Your channel is great. Love your style. Keep up the great work!
Had those for about a year now. Plasticky compering to original.
The click on button will go first very quickly so they will go off easily, and the right trigger got stuck. Overall triggers are so so...
They dont work well with Ring Fit, theres no IR, disconnecting many times.
I would say they good only for secondary.
The do connect and update like normal JoyCons.
The fake joy cons are pretty good. I had no choice but to buy it at the time the pandemic first started because the real joy cons were sold out every where. I didn't even notice that it was fake until I received them. The only thing I don't like is if you want to play the switch on your tv, the fake joy cons don't fit into the hand controllers like the real ones do. My son was alittle disappointed about that.😒😒😒😒
the reason i came to the comments! thank you
HORI ( Split Pad Pro)
Honestly the only way i use handheld anymore. I've got 4 different grips for Joycon but at the end of the day they still feel like a toy. nothing comes close to the Split Pad. (For handheld play) Highly under rated product.
Probably also missing the NFC for Amiibo.
I guess these use the same firmware as the official ones, so it makes sense that they would be so similar internally as well.
Not sure if I’d ever buy the fake stuff, but I did replace the joy stick on the right joy con due to terrible drift. I actually watched your tutorial on replacing a stick and used the same one you used from amazon, still working perfectly to this day.
Do they have NFC support?
Anybody have a link to them? I couldn’t find them when I searched
Cool video tech talk spawn wave
This is awesome! Great alternative! Thanks a lot for the review:D
The only way I would ever buy a 3rd party joycon, is if it does not get the drift.
That is all I want to know, will it drift?
I bought a knockoff switch pro controller last month and opened it up. It actually uses a similar kind of hd rumble motor found in the legit nintendo ones. The only problem is that it's noisy af lmao
Wait so your telling me you can boost the range of the joycons if you use a longer wire?
read the title and immeadiately thought "cake"
I have a pair and honestly, you can’t tell the difference. The only difference is that it says Nintendo on the original ones. I’m so impressed by the knock offs ones!!!
did you manage to connect them on the pc??
someone have a link to buy those joy cons?
I'm curious if these can be used for a shell swap? (...would the guts fit into another joy-con housing?) ...and, if you bought a proper replacement vibration motor, could you upgrade it? (...is the connection to the circut-board the same?)
Sean McKinney I would just buy spare joycon shells, those are readily available on eBay and much cheaper and less wasteful. Plus the right joycon doesn't have the sensor on the bottom. And the interval molding is probably very different
do they have amiibo support ?
I just came here to see if you looked surprised in the thumbnail. Was not dissapointed
can you put a link where you got these pls
Does it have NFC
Honestly, these would be really good for shell swaps
Do they have the sensors to be able to play mario party? As can be only played with joycons
I bought some of these because im waiting to get my repaired joycons back because of the drift issue. These are cool.
Do they work with mario party?
Nintendo Sports wanted to upgrade the controller firmware and I couldn't figure out how to get these to upgrade. The normal way just says it can't connect to the controller.
6:15 is the maddest I’ve ever seen Spawn wave
So it's basically like that pro controller that is almost identical to the real one, nice!
What game is that at 9:35
Are they compatible with the charger grip, attachable straps with the built in L and R buttons, and the nintendo switch ergonomic grip stand? If so, I'm getting these from here on out.
Hey, there is a cutout for the HD ruble motor and the connection looks the same... Could you please try and put a real HD rumble pack in these? I would love to see how the fake joycon will react.
Ok. They look nice. But do they have a better wireless connection?
I have the second version of the Nintendo Joycons and I have literally to play less than a matter away from the console to not have any distinction.
20 or 30 centimeters more apart and both start to have connectivity issues.
Hey these would be great for making a d-pad joycon. Do you think you could put it in the custom shell?
Anyone know if these are Bluetooth and if they work on pc?
Does anyone know if you'd be able to swap an hd rumble motor into these?
Could they be refurbished with different skins/plates since they're customizable?
What game where you playing close to the end ?? Looks pretty cool
I love the cute little joy cond
I actually saw these on eBay and they have animal crossing variants
this is why i looked up a review on these lol
where's the link?
Do they have NFC as well?
Them selling their own joycons for $70 is pretty bad. Me and my family bought a used switch with a defective R trigger and a joycon with out a rubber cap. I hope these will help, though.
Would have been nice if you included a link to the product
I know it's an old vid, but I wonder if you could put a replacement HD rumble motor in it, and if it would work correctly? It looks like it uses the same plug as the one in the real Joycon, so just a curiosity, particularly since the cavity is still there.
But how are the gyroscopic controls?
Dude, you forgot about the NFC reader.
i wonder if shell replacements would work with these
please do a fake vs original ps4 controller next.
Find it hard to believe you’ve only got two games on the switch 😂😂
Question I got a pair of new joy cons for Christmas the packaging looks good it’s just that the home button and the abxy buttons are on the opposite joy con colot can they just come like that or are they fake?
Sorry if this was asked already... but do they wake the system when not connected? I'm sold for just that alone.
Super interesting ! I wonder if they have different other colors ! ! !