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because the reason they dont have an actual dpad on the joycons is because they're designed around splitting the joy cons for easy multiplayer. i think it would be cool if you could choose, like you could remove the face buttons and replace them with a dpad if you wanted easily, but idk if nintendo would do that
Here's the thing about the Playstation D pad buttons. They aren't actually four separate buttons. It functions like any other + D pad. There's just a gap in the middle.
Yep, plus it is way more comfortable than the spread out, tiny, clicky Joy Con directional buttons. Try playing all the way through a 2d Mario or Zelda with those things. You will hate them by the end.
Yeah, they seemingly did that cause I guess Nintendo has a patent on the + style d-pad. Though the Vita has + styled d-pad (the center is just indented slightly), so I'm not actually sure on that. Edit: The Dreamcast also had a + style d-pad, so I guess Sony just wanted to be unique.
@@ValcudaBy the time the vita came out the Nintendo patent expired. The original patent expired in 2004. It's also not really just about the shape of the d-pad but also the underlying mechanism of how it pivots
@@Valcuda Nintendo did have a patent on the + d pad, but it expired in 2005. The Sega Genesis' d pad, while shield style, was functionally identical to the Nintendo style one. The difference was how it was built. It sat on top of the central pivot, instead of having it built it in. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dreamcast's d pad was built the same.
Is it too specific to want a 6-face button, right Joycon-alternative to compliment this Hori D-pad, left one? I just don't get why 6-face button portables are so rare when the Saturn controller is so well-loved!? Ultra SF2 and Street Fighter 30th Anniversary ARE actual fighting games on the Switch that would've benefitted ALOT from having the option. Hell.... Sega integrated Circle Pad Pro support into their 3DS for simple arcade conversions & Nintendo themselves made 2 different versions of the CPP! Modern Nintendo are lazy assholes that would rather sue everyone and shutdown githubs instead of making fun games and cool hardware. They suck now.
I know Scott isn't exactly a PC gamer but I would love to see him do a full video on the Steam Deck. As someone with a lot of opinions on controllers and D-pads I have to say the Steam deck nailed every aspect of a controller.
@@troopper1026 I agree, but mis-inputs have been pretty rare for me tbh. I think it's due to the fact that the left arrow is "taller" than the rest because it's where the curved edge starts, and I only ever have issues with left/up or left/down
Oh i think hed despise it. So much setup needed to get steamdeck going. It's like using a bad pc and he hates pc gaming, regardless of how good the ergonomics are (...for people who have large hands). At least it isn't a windows handheld
The Playstation dpad is one piece, not 4 separate buttons. If you press one direction, you see the whole thing rock instead of just one direction pressing down. It just has a groove in the middle to allow it to fit under the shell of the controller.
That's the first thing I noticed about it lol, had to refund mine 3 times and I'm still stuck with a shitty controller, it works but man the quality control sucks (or at the very least here in europe shopping from France/Germany to Spain) It was a tough battle that lasted for months but now I don't even want to use the thing lmao, still, it's there
Those that was trying to figure out what he was talking about It's Switch, Apple, direct input, X input I don't really know what the difference is between switch and direct input but hey.
@@bland9876It's a PC thing. Direct input is basically the "generic" gamepad that you'd find in a third rate tech shop or something. Whereas Switch is specifically for the Switch, and while it _might_ work on PC games it's significantly less of a guarantee.
@@bland9876 if you connect to a PC with direct input it reads as a generic Xbox controller. If you use switch it thinks it's a switch pro controller and enables gyro
It's been so frustrating to play Celeste on the Steam Deck because it misreads my diagonals whether I'm using the joystick or D-pad. Makes me want to get it on Switch and play it on Joycon. Or save the money and use my PC keyboard.
2:03 Fun fact, the full version of this saying is "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one." So yeah, goes from being a mild insult to a full compliment.
I like how the full quote is like an inverse of the famous Bruce Lee quote of “I fear not the man who has practiced 1000 kicks once, but the one who has practiced one kick 1000 times”.
I own the Zelda variant of this D-Pad Joy-Con. Great for playing Tetris, and it was an absolute lifesaver when my left Joy-Con started drifting and I had to send it over to Nintendo.
I don't know why everyone prefers the D-pad, I've never liked the idea of being able to misinput because you rock your thumb a slight bit too much. Separate buttons prevents that
For fighting games in particular, this d-pad allows you to roll your thumb for special move inputs like a quarter circle motion. rolling you thumbs on separate buttons is a bit awkward.
It's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be imo it works perfectly fine, the different feel tho throws people off because they are so used to the traditional D-Pad, it reminds me of the time when Windows 8 came out and they changed up how the start menu functioned people went ape shit over it and Microsoft had to implement it back in, so really it's just being used to something for so long and then having to get used to something new
Honestly, with how terrible most modern d-pads are it's not really that bad. I have played hours of games using the steam controller's haptic touchpad as a dpad though, so I'm a total creature
Same here, a block d-pad just eats inputs and makes more particular input unbearably mushy. Would kill for a controller with joycon-like direction buttons & touchpads instead of joysticks.
It's nice and tactile, I understand the practicality of having a D-pad that's basically one button instead of 4 seperate ones, but they just don't feel as good
I'm a weirdo who actually prefers the D-buttons over the D-pad and analog stick(s) in general for consoles like the Switch The GBA and (3)DS I'm very comfortable with using these days, there's a solid feel to em that clicks with me - I know we're well into "just emulate those games" territory for even the 3DS but sometimes you just can't beat the real hardware But the D-pad on the 8bitdo I have, man It's not bad but it's got a different feel from the old handhelds and as a result it doesn't click quite as well
It really bugs me that people mistake the Dualshock d-pad as four separate buttons. It is a single plastic piece that works as a normal d-pad, it's just that it is molded in a way that there is a gap in the outside
It really bugs me that people mistake the 8Bitdo controllers as having anything even remotely resembling a good d-pad. The false diagonals on the Sn30 Pro+ are *ATROCIOUS* and makes it even worse than a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller's d-pad. Can't even push left or right without it freaking out and registering up or down with it.
@@Landfall364Maybe you just have a bad controller. I like mine over any other Dpad. I got every achievement in Celeste with my SN30pro dpad. I find it much better than anything modern Nintendo, Microsoft, and especially Sony have to offer.
@@Landfall364Heard 8bitdo's quality control is ass but I might just be lucky. It might not be like THE dpad but it's significantly better than anyother controller I own in terms of flase diagonals. But as an aside what happened to dpads in general, how have we regressed so far.
Thank you. It's not remotely close to the Switch's separate buttons. The PS d-pad is a legitimate d-pad. Not necessarily my favorite, but it works just fine.
I was skeptical at first, but I ended up loving the button d-pad. The "regular" d-pad on the Pro Controller feels so mushy and imprecise in comparison. I wish Nintendo was better at providing alternative official controllers to make everyone happy.
For me personally, once I got used to the joycon "d-pad" it's actually not that bad to use and in a lot of games I prefer it. The only time this D-pad sucked to use was trying to play Metroid Fusion. That games already difficult, but that game showed me why most people don't like to use the joycon's D-Pad.
I got a d-pad shell back in like 2018, which I put onto my launch-left-joycon. It still works awesomely, and by gosh do I love it, to the point that Ive gotten new joycons since then, but it's still my go-to
I like the default arrow buttons. Yeah, they can kinda scuff up your skin a little but they feel kinda cozy on certain games. (Capcom Fighting Collection)
Scott forgetting that the gamecube and wii had pretty bad d-pads. Im ngl, i like the directional buttons. I played all if hollowknight with joycons while on vacation when i was younger and really enjoyed using them. They're very precise so it felt fantastic for puzzles and combat in the 2D world. Its also my preferred way to play tetris for the same reasons, no misinputting
They were surpisingly easy to do diagnoals on for some reason, and i used them a lot before i got a fairly well made 3rd party switch controller with a great d-pad for playing gba and ds games.
Despite my Switch OLED screen, this why I also got Switch Lite for this, the D-pad on that thing feels so good! I'm more on to Handheld gaming so this makes more sense for me.
I know this will be buried but I’m a little bit of a Hori connoisseur. I absolutely adore this dpad. As far as I have researched, they have been putting this style on their controllers since the PS2 era with their shindou controller for PS2. They have a similar, albeit larger dpad on the Pokken and Fighting Commander controllers. I have several variations of this joycon for spare parts and the Blue one from Japan rarely leaves my switch. I ordered a Mario red one for the right side to have a similar non-pastel color to match. If I’m playing on the TV I’m using the pro controller for modern games or 8bitdo or Pokken controller for side scrollers.
it's nothing like the playstation d-pad, which is an actual d-pad on a pivot just the middle of the + goes under the plastic between the segments, where the left joy-con's d-pad really is just four separate buttons
Shocked you didn't mention the Switch Lite, since it does have a traditional Nintendo D-Pad I figured it would've at least been mentioned. Honestly the D-Pad is really the only reason I'd ever buy a Lite model.
@6:48 I have the Zelda one of these. It never locked into place quite right on either the original Switch or my OLED Switch. But the D-Pad felt alright.
I like the Joy-cons separate buttons d-pad. The inputs are much clearer and precise. Playing Celeste was way easier with the joycons d-pad. I hope they keep it, I like it very much.
honestly the best d-pad ive used, not just for the xbox controllers but controllers in general is the series x controller, it just has the responsiveness of the 3ds dpad with basically the design of the sega sturn d-pad and its like bliss
The Switch Pro controler D pad o is perfect. I have 2 and thousands hours and never once have I pressed up or down by accident. If u are hitting up or down by accident, it is a you problem, because I never have and one of my top 3 contorllers D pads of all time
I have played SO many games using that not-a-d-pad. And honestly, it works fine. The only big drawback is that it kinda starts to hurt my thumb after long play times.
This is how I feel about the Hori controllers. Got the Gengar split pad compact on sale and man it looks cool! But with no rumble or wireless support it mostly looks cool on my dresser.
NGL i love the button d-pad. With dpads getting consistently worse and worse and me playing more difficult and precise games, i want to get my inputs correct and love not worrying about sliding my finger and suddenly i get back quarter circle down and whiff and suddenly I'm in a 20 hit combo.
I bought one for about $16 a couple months ago but I was very disappointed by how cheap it feels and the rubber minus button. I would have rather paid more for better quality but it works in a pinch.
"This is a highly situational controller" I put mine on when I bought the Switch in 2019 and I don't think I've ever removed it! I mainly played retro/retro style games and metroidvanias when in portable mode though. I love my Steamdeck OLED, but it would be nice to have swappable controllers like the Switch. As a Sega Saturn fan I am legally required to complain about any d-pad which is not the Japanese (or model 2 Western) Sega Saturn d-pad, but I found the Hori d-pad and the Steamdeck d-pad acceptable.
As someone who came from using a keyboard my entire life, I VASTLY prefer the switch dpad over every other Dpad I've tried, it just feels so much more tactile and less mushy. Like I refuse to play 2d games on my steam deck because of the dpad, But LOVE playing them on the switch. Am I crazy?
I have a custom shell w/ dpad on my left joycon and it's great. I do have the Zelda HORI dpad I got probably around beginning 2020. How do I know if it's the battery drainer model?
Hey, I have this one! The lack of wireless does make it very situational. If you want to play a retro 2D game in handheld mode, Bob's your uncle. Normally I prefer to use my 8BitDo Pro 2 with the Switch docked.
I'm sorry everyone, I vastly prefer the Joy-Con's fake D-pad to any other controller's D-pad. The PlayStation Vita's D-pad is a close second place. It's simple, with the segmented buttons acting as a D-pad, you'll never have another accidental diagonal again. Tetris is the perfect example. It was unplayable on a Pro Controller. But even beyond Tetris, it just removes all potential ambiguity. For example, trying to crouch in a 2D platformer. There's always going to be some ambiguity when holding diagonal Down Right on a plus style D-pad. You can easily accidentally slip into one or the other. But with the segmented D-pad, there's zero ambiguity. And yeah, the Pro Controller's D-pad was particularly bad, but I still think the tactile feel of separate buttons is better than the + design on all controllers in general. I wish I could get a PlayStation style controller with the Joy-Con segmented D-pad.
Same I love the vita and joycon dpads because of how clicky they are not to mention they're great for fighting games because you can feel the input clearly
Scott, I have the greatest accessory, I don't recall if you've made a video on it, but the AA Joy-con adaptors. Unironically love that stupid thing to bits.
I loved these when they came out but I believe Hori uses the same factory mold as Nintendo for the analog sticks. I've bought 3 of them and they've all succumbed to drift
I was hoping you also talked about the nyxi controllers, those are actually good joycons with good quality material and they do have rumble, wireless and a d-pad I got for myself yhe hyperion pro but they also have the wizard line which is made to resemble a gamecube controller
I got a hori split pad pro because I despise how the joycons feel. Those felt great for the few times I got to use them. After 32 days (conveniently 2 days outside the warranty!) one of them completely stopped working, and I had only used it like 8 times, never swapped them on/off, never even took it outside That was like $60, down the drain. Very disappointing considering how I have a 20 year old n64 hori pad mini that still works
Once upon a time target would clearance out those Hori D-pad controllers for $7 apiece. I got a Zelda, Mario and pokemon one. When I use a satisfye grip, I still use those D-pad controllers to this day.
It does function apperently. But I would much rather use the Hori Splitpad pro. It's also just for handheld gaming with no rumble or motion controls. However this controller feels so much better if you don't have the hands of a 13 year old. The D-Pad is the same form but about twice as big. One of the best D-Pads I ever used.
For all the rumors of Switch 2 magnetic joycons, nobody has even attempted to try and make a fake leak that they would actually have a d-pad.
If they did the leaks wouldn't be believeable.
I think as long as the rail buttons exist, a dpad will not :(
@@Calvin_Coolagethey would certainly deserve critique
Imagine, they put a magnetic overlay to turn the four independent direction buttons into a d-pad
because the reason they dont have an actual dpad on the joycons is because they're designed around splitting the joy cons for easy multiplayer. i think it would be cool if you could choose, like you could remove the face buttons and replace them with a dpad if you wanted easily, but idk if nintendo would do that
Here's the thing about the Playstation D pad buttons. They aren't actually four separate buttons. It functions like any other + D pad. There's just a gap in the middle.
Yep, plus it is way more comfortable than the spread out, tiny, clicky Joy Con directional buttons. Try playing all the way through a 2d Mario or Zelda with those things. You will hate them by the end.
Yeah, they seemingly did that cause I guess Nintendo has a patent on the + style d-pad.
Though the Vita has + styled d-pad (the center is just indented slightly), so I'm not actually sure on that.
Edit:
The Dreamcast also had a + style d-pad, so I guess Sony just wanted to be unique.
@@ValcudaBy the time the vita came out the Nintendo patent expired. The original patent expired in 2004. It's also not really just about the shape of the d-pad but also the underlying mechanism of how it pivots
@@Valcuda Nintendo did have a patent on the + d pad, but it expired in 2005. The Sega Genesis' d pad, while shield style, was functionally identical to the Nintendo style one. The difference was how it was built. It sat on top of the central pivot, instead of having it built it in. I wouldn't be surprised if the Dreamcast's d pad was built the same.
Yes, the key detail is that the 4 buttons on Sony D-pads are all parts of the same piece of plastic, so they still feel like Nintendo D-pads.
With how specific these Scott's Stash videos are getting, we're getting ever closer to the prophesied 'L button' episode
Is it too specific to want a 6-face button, right Joycon-alternative to compliment this Hori D-pad, left one? I just don't get why 6-face button portables are so rare when the Saturn controller is so well-loved!? Ultra SF2 and Street Fighter 30th Anniversary ARE actual fighting games on the Switch that would've benefitted ALOT from having the option. Hell.... Sega integrated Circle Pad Pro support into their 3DS for simple arcade conversions & Nintendo themselves made 2 different versions of the CPP! Modern Nintendo are lazy assholes that would rather sue everyone and shutdown githubs instead of making fun games and cool hardware. They suck now.
@@TexasHollowEarthWhere the fuck did this come from lmao
@@TexasHollowEarthbro in what game do you need 6 BUTTONS!?
@@TexasHollowEarth what
Scott making a joke about an L-button episode of Scott the Woz was very unexpected, but very appreciated
Can't wait for this comment to get flooded with replies once the L-button episode comes out
wait when?
L
Imma leave this here to keep track of this thread.
I know Scott isn't exactly a PC gamer but I would love to see him do a full video on the Steam Deck. As someone with a lot of opinions on controllers and D-pads I have to say the Steam deck nailed every aspect of a controller.
I think the steam deck dpad isn't great tbh, I've had it misread inputs from time to time. That being said I do love my steam deck
Impressive 🤔
@@troopper1026 I agree, but mis-inputs have been pretty rare for me tbh. I think it's due to the fact that the left arrow is "taller" than the rest because it's where the curved edge starts, and I only ever have issues with left/up or left/down
Oh i think hed despise it. So much setup needed to get steamdeck going. It's like using a bad pc and he hates pc gaming, regardless of how good the ergonomics are (...for people who have large hands). At least it isn't a windows handheld
@@tipsy634how much setup did you have? Mine was just an account login and click install on games.
The Playstation dpad is one piece, not 4 separate buttons. If you press one direction, you see the whole thing rock instead of just one direction pressing down. It just has a groove in the middle to allow it to fit under the shell of the controller.
It's like an armoured Xbox dpad
As someone who’s been inside a ps controller, yup. there _are_ 4 pads, but the d pad itself is 1 button.
@@cubeheadexists you've been inside one? What's it like, is it comfortable?
@@cubeheadexistsDid you wear protection at least?
@@cubeheadexistsdid you get aids?
I only just noticed the 8bitdo controller switch is laid out S-A-D-X.
gotta respect the love for Sonic Adventure DX Director's Cut
But is it on PC, where you can mod it to be the best of all versions?
That's the first thing I noticed about it lol, had to refund mine 3 times and I'm still stuck with a shitty controller, it works but man the quality control sucks (or at the very least here in europe shopping from France/Germany to Spain) It was a tough battle that lasted for months but now I don't even want to use the thing lmao, still, it's there
Those that was trying to figure out what he was talking about It's Switch, Apple, direct input, X input
I don't really know what the difference is between switch and direct input but hey.
@@bland9876It's a PC thing. Direct input is basically the "generic" gamepad that you'd find in a third rate tech shop or something. Whereas Switch is specifically for the Switch, and while it _might_ work on PC games it's significantly less of a guarantee.
@@bland9876 if you connect to a PC with direct input it reads as a generic Xbox controller. If you use switch it thinks it's a switch pro controller and enables gyro
i love how scott always has a lot to say about the most random things all the time
he managed to make a 15 minute video about the joycon d-pad. he is getting stronger.
Once the L button episode drops, he will be unstoppable.
Hilariously, I actually love the button d-pad. It'll never misread inputs and it's a lot more precise than a standard d-pad.
I loved it for resident evil 4
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Same here, and I mostly play 2D games.
It's been so frustrating to play Celeste on the Steam Deck because it misreads my diagonals whether I'm using the joystick or D-pad. Makes me want to get it on Switch and play it on Joycon. Or save the money and use my PC keyboard.
@@TheRenegade... you can get separate buttons for dpads now! i have them for my ps5 controller for fighting games and celeste and it's awesome
2:03 Fun fact, the full version of this saying is "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one."
So yeah, goes from being a mild insult to a full compliment.
not a fact, no support for that existing before the Internet. Tumblr may be dead but their particular brand of misinformation lives on
Should be Nintendo's slogan.
I like how the full quote is like an inverse of the famous Bruce Lee quote of “I fear not the man who has practiced 1000 kicks once, but the one who has practiced one kick 1000 times”.
I own the Zelda variant of this D-Pad Joy-Con. Great for playing Tetris, and it was an absolute lifesaver when my left Joy-Con started drifting and I had to send it over to Nintendo.
I have that variant too. It also pairs pretty well visually with the launch grey right joy-con.
I have the same, I don't use it because I find the dPad if very squishy. It's fine to tinker with, but I wouldn't keep it on my switch for long.
real shit scott woz
I don't know why everyone prefers the D-pad, I've never liked the idea of being able to misinput because you rock your thumb a slight bit too much. Separate buttons prevents that
For fighting games in particular, this d-pad allows you to roll your thumb for special move inputs like a quarter circle motion. rolling you thumbs on separate buttons is a bit awkward.
To change directions faster and do patterns quicker
I'm accustomed to using controllers that are actually functional
It's honestly not as bad as people make it out to be imo it works perfectly fine, the different feel tho throws people off because they are so used to the traditional D-Pad, it reminds me of the time when Windows 8 came out and they changed up how the start menu functioned people went ape shit over it and Microsoft had to implement it back in, so really it's just being used to something for so long and then having to get used to something new
i feel like the only person who actually likes the separated buttons as the dpad making it easier to be more exact in 2d platformers
I will always be a staunch defender of the Joy-Con's "D-Pad" no matter how many people absolutely despise it and try to convince me otherwise
Honestly, with how terrible most modern d-pads are it's not really that bad. I have played hours of games using the steam controller's haptic touchpad as a dpad though, so I'm a total creature
Same here, a block d-pad just eats inputs and makes more particular input unbearably mushy. Would kill for a controller with joycon-like direction buttons & touchpads instead of joysticks.
I’m gonna say it, I like the Joycon Dpad. No particular reason. I like it.
👉NERD!👈 😂
It's nice and tactile, I understand the practicality of having a D-pad that's basically one button instead of 4 seperate ones, but they just don't feel as good
It makes sense when you play on its side. Using a real dpad as buttons would feel weird
I dislike you. No particular reason. I just dislike you.
it feels way more accurate than any other nintendo dpad imo
I'm a weirdo who actually prefers the D-buttons over the D-pad and analog stick(s) in general for consoles like the Switch
The GBA and (3)DS I'm very comfortable with using these days, there's a solid feel to em that clicks with me - I know we're well into "just emulate those games" territory for even the 3DS but sometimes you just can't beat the real hardware
But the D-pad on the 8bitdo I have, man
It's not bad but it's got a different feel from the old handhelds and as a result it doesn't click quite as well
Finally someone's talking about the REAL problems
No 6-button layout, right joycon clone for 2D fighters 🗿👎
It really bugs me that people mistake the Dualshock d-pad as four separate buttons. It is a single plastic piece that works as a normal d-pad, it's just that it is molded in a way that there is a gap in the outside
It really bugs me that people mistake the 8Bitdo controllers as having anything even remotely resembling a good d-pad. The false diagonals on the Sn30 Pro+ are *ATROCIOUS* and makes it even worse than a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller's d-pad. Can't even push left or right without it freaking out and registering up or down with it.
Thank you… THANK YOU!!!! Their cross style dpad SUCKS donkey balls. For the reasons you said. It’s hard stiff and clicky.
@@Landfall364Maybe you just have a bad controller. I like mine over any other Dpad. I got every achievement in Celeste with my SN30pro dpad. I find it much better than anything modern Nintendo, Microsoft, and especially Sony have to offer.
@@Landfall364Heard 8bitdo's quality control is ass but I might just be lucky. It might not be like THE dpad but it's significantly better than anyother controller I own in terms of flase diagonals. But as an aside what happened to dpads in general, how have we regressed so far.
Thank you. It's not remotely close to the Switch's separate buttons. The PS d-pad is a legitimate d-pad. Not necessarily my favorite, but it works just fine.
I was skeptical at first, but I ended up loving the button d-pad. The "regular" d-pad on the Pro Controller feels so mushy and imprecise in comparison.
I wish Nintendo was better at providing alternative official controllers to make everyone happy.
One step closer to the L button video.
And I'm about to break!
I love the switch button dpad. It’s so accurate and snappy. You’ll never have mis inputs.
"You can flick it if you want to. That's f***ed up!" Scott the Woz, 2024
I just bought one of these! I love it!
The full quote is "Jack of all trades, master of none. Though often times better than one." Just somethin' to think about Scott !
nobody has ever heard that before
I've always preferred the 4 face button as a d-pad. It's more natural than most people say and I always know which button I'm pressing
eh the joycons lacking an actual d pad was actually pretty good for stuff like rhythm games
oh right i loved playing rhythm heaven with my left joycon!!!
oh wait-
Yeah, it’s actually perfect to play Taiko with to be quite honest
It’s actually not too bad for Crypt of the Necrodancer
Puyo Puyo Tetris
hori was the only company making high quality arcade sticks for a long time too
got mine about 2 months ago, cant play without it.
wow amazing
For me personally, once I got used to the joycon "d-pad" it's actually not that bad to use and in a lot of games I prefer it. The only time this D-pad sucked to use was trying to play Metroid Fusion. That games already difficult, but that game showed me why most people don't like to use the joycon's D-Pad.
The Joy-Con D pad is my favorite. It's impossible to miss an imput
Scott doing these shorter niche videos has been the best thing to happen to RUclips in as long as I can remember
preach dude , preach
I got a d-pad shell back in like 2018, which I put onto my launch-left-joycon. It still works awesomely, and by gosh do I love it, to the point that Ive gotten new joycons since then, but it's still my go-to
Been using this Joycon for 2 years now. It's amazing
Scott is the only RUclipsr who can make a video on the dpad and I'd watch it.
been using hori split pad pros for a while and love them. 10x more comfortable than joycons
I like the default arrow buttons.
Yeah, they can kinda scuff up your skin a little but they feel kinda cozy on certain games. (Capcom Fighting Collection)
Scott forgetting that the gamecube and wii had pretty bad d-pads.
Im ngl, i like the directional buttons. I played all if hollowknight with joycons while on vacation when i was younger and really enjoyed using them. They're very precise so it felt fantastic for puzzles and combat in the 2D world. Its also my preferred way to play tetris for the same reasons, no misinputting
They were surpisingly easy to do diagnoals on for some reason, and i used them a lot before i got a fairly well made 3rd party switch controller with a great d-pad for playing gba and ds games.
They both recycled d-pads from portables. GameCube had GBA design and Wii had DS design. Maybe the Wii's was raised a bit higher.
Despite my Switch OLED screen, this why I also got Switch Lite for this, the D-pad on that thing feels so good! I'm more on to Handheld gaming so this makes more sense for me.
I love these videos... they're just so inoffensive and painless to watch
the skit he did a few months ago was weirdly transphobic :/
Cry about it @@jmc042
@@jmc042?
@jmc042 cry
@@ferweenie sorry i was just tryna stir up shit, he did no such thing
I know this will be buried but I’m a little bit of a Hori connoisseur. I absolutely adore this dpad. As far as I have researched, they have been putting this style on their controllers since the PS2 era with their shindou controller for PS2. They have a similar, albeit larger dpad on the Pokken and Fighting Commander controllers. I have several variations of this joycon for spare parts and the Blue one from Japan rarely leaves my switch. I ordered a Mario red one for the right side to have a similar non-pastel color to match. If I’m playing on the TV I’m using the pro controller for modern games or 8bitdo or Pokken controller for side scrollers.
The four dirctional buttons are really good for undertale, i prefer it than my dpad joycon
it's nothing like the playstation d-pad, which is an actual d-pad on a pivot just the middle of the + goes under the plastic between the segments, where the left joy-con's d-pad really is just four separate buttons
I like the switch "dpad" with the buttons
Shocked you didn't mention the Switch Lite, since it does have a traditional Nintendo D-Pad I figured it would've at least been mentioned. Honestly the D-Pad is really the only reason I'd ever buy a Lite model.
Most of these would look great on the OLED with the white (R)Joy-con. I love that look
My honest reaction: the what now? 😂 i’ve never heard of this and this is usually something i would hear about in a Scott video
The d pad is what I called my dorm room
@6:48 I have the Zelda one of these. It never locked into place quite right on either the original Switch or my OLED Switch. But the D-Pad felt alright.
i feel like im literally the only one who likes this. its just so much more precise than a dpad ever will be
I like the Joy-cons separate buttons d-pad. The inputs are much clearer and precise. Playing Celeste was way easier with the joycons d-pad. I hope they keep it, I like it very much.
i use the split pad pro. same thing with a matching right joycon and a ergonomic grip.
definitely need the d-pad controllers
I got one of these after my original got drift. Works great and was the cheapest option.
honestly the best d-pad ive used, not just for the xbox controllers but controllers in general is the series x controller, it just has the responsiveness of the 3ds dpad with basically the design of the sega sturn d-pad and its like bliss
I just got new shells for my joy cons. The left one has a d-pad, and it works fantastic.
I have the Pikachu and the Zelda Hori D-Pad joycons... The Zelda one looks sick with the OLED Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Switch.
The Switch Pro controler D pad o is perfect. I have 2 and thousands hours and never once have I pressed up or down by accident. If u are hitting up or down by accident, it is a you problem, because I never have and one of my top 3 contorllers D pads of all time
I have played SO many games using that not-a-d-pad. And honestly, it works fine. The only big drawback is that it kinda starts to hurt my thumb after long play times.
Scott can make us watch a video about anything.
This is how I feel about the Hori controllers. Got the Gengar split pad compact on sale and man it looks cool! But with no rumble or wireless support it mostly looks cool on my dresser.
NGL i love the button d-pad. With dpads getting consistently worse and worse and me playing more difficult and precise games, i want to get my inputs correct and love not worrying about sliding my finger and suddenly i get back quarter circle down and whiff and suddenly I'm in a 20 hit combo.
3ds dpad is so good, there’s no way to misinput, it feels like when you click something it only reads what you want
Love the Ds lite pudding
15 minutes of talkong about a dpad and i still watched all of it
I swear this guy could talk about an actually wall for 30 mins and make it interesting
Really hope Scott does a video on all of the GameCube Joycons on the market!
I bought one for about $16 a couple months ago but I was very disappointed by how cheap it feels and the rubber minus button. I would have rather paid more for better quality but it works in a pinch.
The joycon d-buttons really are *fantastic* for Tetris-type games.
"This is a highly situational controller" I put mine on when I bought the Switch in 2019 and I don't think I've ever removed it! I mainly played retro/retro style games and metroidvanias when in portable mode though. I love my Steamdeck OLED, but it would be nice to have swappable controllers like the Switch. As a Sega Saturn fan I am legally required to complain about any d-pad which is not the Japanese (or model 2 Western) Sega Saturn d-pad, but I found the Hori d-pad and the Steamdeck d-pad acceptable.
As someone who came from using a keyboard my entire life, I VASTLY prefer the switch dpad over every other Dpad I've tried, it just feels so much more tactile and less mushy. Like I refuse to play 2d games on my steam deck because of the dpad, But LOVE playing them on the switch. Am I crazy?
I like what the XBOX elite series does with it's d-pad, letting you magnetically attach and detach the pad to suit your game or playstyle
I've been using the Hori Split Pad Pro for since 2020, take it from me it's a great joycon alternative.
I have a custom shell w/ dpad on my left joycon and it's great. I do have the Zelda HORI dpad I got probably around beginning 2020. How do I know if it's the battery drainer model?
The opening joke is perfect
Awesome!! 10:50
i remember when this dropped and i wanted it so bad-
It always amazes me how long Scott can yap about small Nintendo things
No way i was thinking to get this yesterday 😂
Hey, I have this one! The lack of wireless does make it very situational. If you want to play a retro 2D game in handheld mode, Bob's your uncle. Normally I prefer to use my 8BitDo Pro 2 with the Switch docked.
I'm sorry everyone, I vastly prefer the Joy-Con's fake D-pad to any other controller's D-pad. The PlayStation Vita's D-pad is a close second place.
It's simple, with the segmented buttons acting as a D-pad, you'll never have another accidental diagonal again. Tetris is the perfect example. It was unplayable on a Pro Controller. But even beyond Tetris, it just removes all potential ambiguity. For example, trying to crouch in a 2D platformer. There's always going to be some ambiguity when holding diagonal Down Right on a plus style D-pad. You can easily accidentally slip into one or the other. But with the segmented D-pad, there's zero ambiguity.
And yeah, the Pro Controller's D-pad was particularly bad, but I still think the tactile feel of separate buttons is better than the + design on all controllers in general. I wish I could get a PlayStation style controller with the Joy-Con segmented D-pad.
Same I love the vita and joycon dpads because of how clicky they are not to mention they're great for fighting games because you can feel the input clearly
@trimcut Except they aren't lol
I actually owned it when I first got my Switch. Sadly a former friend of mine never gave me back that D-Pad controller. It was lovely.
Scott, I have the greatest accessory, I don't recall if you've made a video on it, but the AA Joy-con adaptors. Unironically love that stupid thing to bits.
0:35 that digital camo dualshock 3 tho :O
this is wild
Hey Scott! Fight us, the regular buttons on the joy cons are just FINE! 👀✨💖
When I had an switch
This think saved me so much time
I just had detached one joy con 😂
I best Celeste with the face buttons, so I have gotten a bit to used to them now lol
Finally he did it, Scott talks about the d-pad
as someone that plays tons of 2 platformers in mostly handheld mode, purchasing the d-pad joy-con has saved me
I loved these when they came out but I believe Hori uses the same factory mold as Nintendo for the analog sticks. I've bought 3 of them and they've all succumbed to drift
I used a Pokémon one of these as my main Left Joy-Con for a couple of years. Not too shabby
I was hoping you also talked about the nyxi controllers, those are actually good joycons with good quality material and they do have rumble, wireless and a d-pad
I got for myself yhe hyperion pro but they also have the wizard line which is made to resemble a gamecube controller
I got a hori split pad pro because I despise how the joycons feel. Those felt great for the few times I got to use them. After 32 days (conveniently 2 days outside the warranty!) one of them completely stopped working, and I had only used it like 8 times, never swapped them on/off, never even took it outside
That was like $60, down the drain. Very disappointing considering how I have a 20 year old n64 hori pad mini that still works
The switch already has a D pad by default. It's at the top of the right joycon
I love the Xbox controller and it’s dpad so much more especially their newest controller it’s crazy comfortable
Once upon a time target would clearance out those Hori D-pad controllers for $7 apiece. I got a Zelda, Mario and pokemon one. When I use a satisfye grip, I still use those D-pad controllers to this day.
It does function apperently. But I would much rather use the Hori Splitpad pro.
It's also just for handheld gaming with no rumble or motion controls.
However this controller feels so much better if you don't have the hands of a 13 year old.
The D-Pad is the same form but about twice as big. One of the best D-Pads I ever used.