Exactly, this needs to be more at the forefront of such discussions. Not just cheaper, you also never need to re-buy your games on future hardware generations.
@@McGeezlebecause steam sales are awesome... personally I buy from steam only because I know the likely hood of steam shutting doors are alot less likely then companies like epic games.
Consoles are like Honda Civics, they work great for what they are designed for. PCs are like blank project cars whose performance is going to be totally based on the budget.
Yeah, I have the adblock-trifecta: pi-hole, adblocker, and a browser with a built-in adblocker (and on top of that, I pay for a family plan of YT Premium)
You hit the nail on the head there. Having a "gaming PC" is so much more than gaming for me. I get endless amounts of joy tinkering and planning my next upgrades.
And with a gaming PC, you have everything on one machine. If you own a console, it's highly likely you'll also own either a laptop or basic PC too for other stuff.
I am disabled, lost my legs 4 years ago. My family lost too. I am now on my own at 52 years old in the UK. I do not have extra money other than my monthly allowances & I am permanently housebound medically. I cannot even start making PC's as a home sit down business because I cannot get the funding. I will watch your videos & learn anyway. I have never had an issue with any console in the 40 years I have been playing computer games.
Try to find people in your area to maybe teach/help you with computers maybe? Definitely read the Bible Remember: THIS life is only temporary The NEXT life is what's going to last
I'm 41 and paralyzed too.....also homeless. I had a PS5 with a portable monitor attached but it was big and bulky and hard to travel with. I ended up getting an Acer predator Helios 18" with an rtx 4090 graphics card 32gb and 14 gen i9 processor and it changed my life. I never new gaming had advanced this far and with all the corks & crashes and just downright 🐂......I still think PC is better and it makes PS5 games seem like a PS3 games in comparison.
Built my first PC when I was 15. Glad I started this hobby, it gave me money making skills that changed my life. I got into IT and now I'm a Network Engineer. All because I wanted to get into PC gaming.
@thestig007 exactly the same story with me as well, apart from I built my first PC when I was 10, it was out of my dads old parts he had left over after many upgrades 😅
have a Switch and have a PC, like... as far as I'm concerned, as long as you know what you are getting into, and you are making the choice for the right reasons, more power to you. I don't like people that are just "Console better." no PC is better from an objective standpoint, but that doesn't mean that a console can't fill a specific need. if what you get with a PC is not needed, and you just want to play (approved) games and watch Netflix or CR, then get a console. if you like the idea of game pass get an xBox, if you like the features of PlayStation then get that. if you want portability get a switch, it doesn't matter. a PC will get you further, but a console isn't a bad choice at the end of the day if all you want to do is play video games and watch netflix.
These types of video are more catered to those that are younger or live in conditions not allowing them to own both. These people usually have to make a decision that have consequences lasting years until they find themselves in a position to upgrade.
@@christownsend552 Windows defender is all you need which is free. I’ve played thousands of hours on MnK and never had an issue. While both of my PS5 controllers had the same drastic stick issues.
@@ATREES I'm on ps4 n. I still don't have an issue out my controllers, and it's only $60 a year, not $80. For a community willing to spend 100s , almost 1000s of dollars on one component, $60 bucks a year is what breaks your pocket book. I'm pc n console, and I've played on my console than my pc
The thing i find people like alot about consoles is the fact you just plug it in and play, and you dont have to worry about it a game will run or not, but for me with PCs, I probably spend more time playing with the hardware, running benchmarks (Timespy & cinebench for example) and trying to overclock it, than i do actually gaming on it
@@flaw885ok? But it’s a fact. A console is much simpler and on PC some games don’t run unless you spent $500+ on it and sometimes that doesn’t even matter when some games are just made for the console. On a PS5 you turn it on, pick a game, and play it. You don’t have to mess with the settings to make the game work properly.
@@Man-p9c I play on console currently but on pc you literally do the same thing but you can change around your graphic settings in a minute to fit what type of build you have and be good. Yeah you can just boot it up on a console and play but you are locked to 30-60fps on most big titles
@@cam_mich Most of the games I play on the PS5 I get 60-120 FPS. If you play on a PC that isn’t brand new with older used parts to compare to the price of a PS5 then you have to figure out how to optimize certain games by turning the settings and quality down in order to have a decent frame rate. On consoles all the games are optimized for it and all you do is just turn on and play with a decent FPS and good graphics quality as well. If you do that with a PC you’re going to have a bad time on certain games where it can be unplayable if your hardware is not compatible with the game. That is not an issue with consoles, they are more consistent.
most of us voting for PC is because we all have multiple purposes of pc not just gaming .yt, work, twitch, editing movies,. multiple screens. and so on..
The reason why many choose console is because they already sit front of the desc during work hours, paying bills etc. so when they wanna relax and enjoy gaming it's much nicer to lie or sit comfortably on the couch and relax. Also console you can take with you where ever you go, pc u cant. Console is also easier, just put it on and play... no playing endlessly with settings before u are good to play.
@@susanna8612 I understand what you're saying but PCs are just as portable if you get a smaller case and you can also play a PC on a TV and use an Xbox controller
Both in the living room for me cause it’s easy to move my ps5 to the bedroom, just swap an hdmi and bring the power cord and my living room is bigger to accommodate my setup. Great system.
Consoles are entertainment devices. PCs are entertainment, creativity and work devices. Nobody's creating a RUclips channel on their PS5 or coding on their PS5 or editing music on their PS5.
Back in the ps3 days I wondered why Sony didn't port over their video editing suite that was included with Sony built PCs. The controller would have been great for editing by using the analog sticks for shuttle and jog.
Some of us don't do youtube, code or edit, I've got a pretty powerful laptop but only really use it for watching youtube these days. was a waste of money really.
@@kylepawson true I built a gaming PC in 2016 for SWBF2 then I started playing Fortnite betta test in 2020 my PC could no longer play either game luckly I had a PS4 and Xbox and Switch never went back to PC gaming
I got into PC gaming watching my father play stuff like Fallout, Baldur's Gate, and Half Life on the family computer. Just this last Christmas I upgraded his old tower, went from a 4690k and GTX 970 to a 7800X3D and a rescue 3090.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT Not from what i have seen, actually i have not really seen a FPS game that even looked half interesting in the past 2 decades. NO Battle royale for me. No calling in stuff or weapon upgrade / skill tree And no Medic stuff, jabbing yourself with needles or padding your self with kevlar ASO And if it do not have Capture The Flag i am not interested, it must also have always run i can not bother with getting slowed down by stamina ASO.
I always just tell my friends "if you cant afford to build/buy a PC that performs better than your console, just stick with console". No sense in trying to scrape together some 600-700 dollar budget pc that is gonna perform identical/worse than your console. just imo
Depends a lot on the kind of videogames you want to play though. Games like LOL and strategy games aren't even available in any other platform or if you also want to emulate older consoles , PC is really good at it. Also having option of playing with mouse and keyboard or switching to controller depending on the game is very convenient and I like the flexibility that a PC has. But then there's a lot of things to consider, if power is all that matters then why does the Nintendo switch alone sells better in any country than a Xbox series S/X and PS5 combined?
Gonna be late on this one, however that's only worth it if your feiend is strictly thinking about playing games. PC has so much more use for school/work or side projects and just by default browsing on it is very comfortable. Consoles come with a lot of mtx memberships that you have to pay for while on PC most things can be a single purchase so in the long run it should come out ahead in terms of budget after all consoles usually sell at a loss or very close to it because they bet on you buying all of those memberships in the long run to make up for them making the hardware more accessible.
If you build a budge PC, one can watch Jay here or Paul at Paul's Hardware to learn where you money should go to first. I started out with an AMD 5700 series card and 16GB of ram. I upgraded to a 3800 TI and 32GB of RAM. Games which didn't look as good as on the console all of the sudden looked better. My next upgrade will be to a 4070TI. My Ryzen 7 3700X is still holding out, but even if I needed to upgrade that, the 5800 version is fantastic for gaming. This will hold me for years to come with games. Building for future considerations and upgrades is possible with a PC. Not so with a console. You will end up spending as much as I do over a decade or longer going the console route, and have no path other than getting a console every 4 years.
What’s nice with the PC is you can still use it for work and everything else. Just get an Xbox controller you can plug in, and a 32 inch screen monitor. Also depending on your PC build, you can upgrade parts when new ones come out.
@@jd-py5nm A advantage of PC's for a lot of us is the building of it. Inspired by this channel I decided to do hard line water cooling. When all the equipment arrived and I was surrounded by fittings and pipes and radiators and enough wiring to fit out the star ship enterprise I remember thinking "This is that Jay's fault" But I'm glad I did it. It's part of the fun
PC gamers love praising they're machine while ignoring it's flaws. Thousands of troubleshooting tutorials and forums about game fixes/bugs/crashes say otherwise.
I agree with you, during pandemic all I did was being in front of a computer and I own a PC with low specs and I know I can upgrade and I will, but I need something specifically to play, just that, that’s why I think I might be buying a console, anyway have a good day my friend
Console: 1. Ability to resell games and buy used games 2. Lower price and easier initial setup. 3. No compatibility or system requirement guesswork 4. Clear separation between work and play. 5. Collection display PC: 1: Game Bundles 2. Control over parts and programs 3: Mods 4. Better but not perfect ability to carry games forward across systems 5. Easier to use for other tasks.
Steam's refund program is the best in gaming which is a big perk on PC. I've never understood buying a game if you're just going to sell it. If that's the case, you might as well sub to Game Pass. Also, if you buy a prebuilt pc, there's nothing any more difficult about the setup than a console. Nor is there any compatibility guess work. It's not difficult to figure out what a suitable gaming pc is for what you kind of experience you want.
@@cronyan I disagree. On PC gaming is a luxury that you have to opt in to when you buy your laptop. On a console gaming and the associated performance is certain. There are some laptops out there that have under 100gb of hard drive space and 4gb of ram. You are not sure to be able to install and run The Witcher 3 for example.
@@mulatdood I played witcher 3 on my PC from 2013 that got a GPU upgrade in 2016. PC gaming is cheaper on the long run and better quality (performance, graphics, usabillity etc).
Console may be lower priced but for multiplayer games you’re paying a subscription on a monthly basis. Days of reselling games will be over in five years or less. Retail stores like Best Buy are eliminating physical media.
I gave XSX a try 2021-2024. Got a new PC recently to replace it. Honestly, if you're not a PC nerd, a console is a non-brainer. But I have that enthusiast bug and it won't ever leave. I just like top of the line tech when it comes to gaming, but I don't need it. Most people don't need it.
I'd still argue to get a PC even if you aren't a PC nerd. Most people already know how to use a PC, and PC doesn't require a subscription to play games online.
@KevDawg1992 the vast majority of people wa t sonething thats going to work out of the box a custom.oc isnt guareenteed to do that. That something pc cant seem to grasp.😊
@@digizilla164 buy a pre build if you really do not want to build your own. If you're close enough to one, go to Micro Center. The whole "the vast majority want something that works out of the box" argument doesn't really hold true nowadays. There's also the fact that there are far more PC gamers than console gamers combined.
Jay is right. Once you build your first pc. There's no going back. I have built so many pc's For myself for my friends and family. And i'm thinking about building a new one again😅 But I also own consoles. I have a PS4, xbox one x and xbox series x.
another big point to point out is this: if you took a picture of me on my pc, it is me in my bedroom with the door shut, lights off at my computer desk with some headphones on. me on console is me in the livingroom on the couch, and i will say "zup" to you when you pass through :)
I'm 58 and You and Paul were the ones that gave me the knowledge to build my first Gaming PC back in the vanilla WOW days. I've now built 5 with my latest being my first water-cooled system. Thanks.
Honestly, to provide a bit of contrast to this comment section, let me speak as someone who built a $3,500 PC back in 2021 and just bought an Xbox series X for $330 during their winter sale last year. PC setup was over $5,000 if you include the two monitors, desk, and chair. I put a 3080ti and ryzen 7 5900x in my rig. For me personally, I love my gaming PC. But when you can get a console that plays games at 120 fps for $350-$550 it truly does make a PC a very hard sell. The current generation of consoles competes so well with a nice PC for such a fraction of the cost that it’s honestly astounding. Pair it with a a 120-144 refresh rate monitor and you can rarely and barely tell the difference between my pc and the series x. Also, while tinkering is a plus when it’s fun. Having to diagnose and tweak settings to figure out why a game is running like crap on my $3,500 PC is not fun at all. It’s annoying and irritating as hell when I just wanna play the damn game. Not sift through settings menus and check temps etc. I turn on the Xbox, I boot up a game, the game plays perfectly. Every. Single. Time. The consistency of that is truly valuable and I would argue a big con to PC gaming. I love both. But honestly speaking, I’d rather just buy a series x or PS5, pair it with a gaming monitor then get a $300-$400 laptop for work if I were buying again today.
I completely agree with you, I didn’t have a PC as expensive as yours, but it was around $1000, so I expected to be able to run all games just fine, I was wrong, I had to tweak the settings to get the games working, at the end I spent more time changing the settings and looking for the issue my pc was having than actually playing games. I also ended up buying an Xbox Series X, I was instantly happy with my decision, never had any problems again. Console is just SO MUCH BETTER in that regard, all you have to do is turn it on and play, you don’t have to change any settings, on 95% of the games you pretty much have a locked 60fps, and 120 in competitive games, which in my opinion is more than enough. My favorite things about consoles are: -Having no problems when playing games and not having to tweak settings -Having all your games at one place and not having 10 different launchers like pc does 😂 -Price to performance I don’t see myself going back to pc in the near future unless both PlayStation and Microsoft mess up hugely on their next consoles.
It's the main argument why I've always been gaming on Console ; "Plug & Play" On the other hand paying 50€+/yr to just play online is a bummer, to say the least.
@@josef689 What do you think about the Xbox and how much time are you using it already? I'm having an older HP Omen with GTX 1050 and I7 7700HQ with which seems like I can't play any new game :/ So I I'm here becase I tried to build a PC but it's way too damn expensive for someone from Eastern Europe as USD is almost more than our valute so everything cost two friggning times more and I'm seriously thinking of buying an Xbox X but the dude in the video is talking baout how they ain't worth it and that they have soft or hardware problems
I love my PC, but it’s incredibly hard to get work done on it because I always get distracted, or am tempted to play games, or watch movies instead of doing what I’m supposed to do. So, to solve this issue, I got two different devices that perform their own respective tasks. I got a PS5 console for entertainment for the end of the day and a MacBook air for work (because the Mac can’t really run games or run them well). I find my life being much better and much more organized with everything having their own purposes. The PC is great and can do everything, but it’s too chaotic and does too much for me.
@@pondracek its not illegal to emulate yes, but acquiring the roms to play the games through emulation involves either having the equipment to dump physical copies, which most people don't have, or pirating, which is illegal, even if you own a copy and think its your right to have a digital copy, still illegal. Not saying I agree with that, but thats how game companies see it
Im in my 50s now and have been gaming since the 48k ZX spectrum and was building PCs back in the days of Pentium 2, Celerons, 3D FX, Matrox, . going to the faires, buying and trading.. and today.. I own over 700 games across steam, ubi, blizzard, gog, origin.. and my PS5.. i currently run an i7 @ 4.5gb, 16gb, gtx 1080ti... and at this point.. ive had enough of pcs, upgrades, drivers, crashes, sitting fiddling with graphics options, waiting for fixes and patches after paying £70+ for something that might crash or not even work on release day and the insane price of graphics cards.. and because i play C & ARPGs and 3rd person games.... i bought a PS5.. and im loving it.. Everything just works out of the box.. from pre-owned £4 ps4 discs to latest stellar blade.. It just works.. Dont get me wrong... I absolutely love my pc.. and use it for everything, including Diablo, BG3 & all crpgs.. but for general gaming and chill out fun.. Console for me now... Ive been there, done it, built it, broke it and fixed it... but these days @ 53.. I just enjoy games and life..
I got a 2080 in a i7 rig with 32 g Ram and that damn thing struggles to give me 1440p with all settings at high (Not even ultra). The PS5 does 4k without a problem. I'm playing Diablo 4 in 4k with Ray tracing or 4k with 60 fps no problem, with my PC it's a struggle to even get 1080p without freezing and hanging. I don't know what Sony is doing but it's freaking magic.
@@Justmeandmy20cents my point exactly friend.. you just get so fed up of tweaking and fiddling with the pc and in-game settings, a PS5 or Series X is a dream come true.. and the damn cost.. a 4090 is over $/£1000.. and thats on ebay, yet a PS5 is just $/£450 New.. its a no brainer imo
You know what is even betteer than that, that feeling of when you undervolt your pc parts but still get the same performance, lower power draw and a cooler system. I undervolted my RTX 3050 8GB and it went from 105w-120w of power to 75w-85w and it performs the same as defualt and my temps barely exceed 60C. That is what makes pc fun.
@armyxveteran No, they don't. German cars are known, across Europe as quite unreliable and have been that way for several years now. It's a major reason why car brands such as Kia and Hyundai are so popular, because they are reliable and offer upto 7 years free warranty included, in the sale of the car, which will also be much cheaper than most german cars to purchase. Also the drivers of German cars, for some reason tend to be to worst drivers on the roads, arrogant, speeders, with no regard for other road users. Just watch any dashcam videos about poor driving in European countries, particularly the UK and the most common examples of poor driving are from german car drivers. It's even noticeable in some US dashcam videos. Not that, that, is the fault of the germans who produced them but German cars seem to bring the worst out of people.
Console and PC are totally different mindsets. Most people I play with on console just want a box that plays the game, They dont want to have to adjust settings and theyre happy to take sony/Microsoft advertising about 4k at face value. In my experience brand loyalty is a huge part if it, they get upset when you meet their shilling for a giving cobsole with the objective fact that a mid range PC performs far better, but they dont care about fidelity of frame rates and theres nothing wrong with that
this! everyone thinks better stats = better choice but theres more to it than that and people give a shit about different things. i personally want a Play Station and my ps5 does that just fine and i don't Ever have to read an email on that thing ever
@@debomb721 you underestimate brand loyalties, I have quite literally had a console player get upset with me on cross play when I pointed out his Xbox is not rendering warzone in 4K at 120fps. They're not upset that a much more expensive PC can outperform a console, they're upset that they believed Sony and Microsoft's deceptive marketing
I have a pretty busy life, so ive always loved just coming home, hanging with the fam and turning on the tv and ps5 and playing for an hour then shutting it off and not having to constantly adjust or upgrade. Ive built 2 high end pcs now and cant stand upgrading it to play something. BUT i really enjoy the whole build process, its really fun.
@@TsengtheTurk LOL I was quite shocked to read that Nvidia had bought the XBox production rights from Microsoft yesterday, until I saw what day it was.
I was a pc gamer, that switched back to console. Time and money man time and money. 500$ for something that’s going to have a 7ish year life cycle, no different than a lot of pc parts, but it’s one box. I don’t have much time and life has gotten really expensive, I’d rather just push a button and play when I can, pc doesn’t always give you that experience.
that’s what i’m thinking, I had to take my pc in for repairs this weekend because my cpu fried, granted that was my fault because I bought the pc last year without knowing anything about them and now I know to prevent it. But without a warranty it would’ve cost me $300 or more, and I just think to myself if it’s even worth it anymore
@@user-ux3jp9oo7r Ive owned my pc almost a year and up until recently I realized I had to set fan curves to keep my system cooled down, and for the longest time I never got my drivers.
I'm doing the same, but I do have a decent PC. I have a large 360 and decent OG Xbox catalog, so I really enjoy my Series X. If only Xenia and Xemu were as good as the Series X.
My top 5 reasons for console over pc: 1. Directly focus on game, no need for configuration, tweating, controller setup... just start a game and have fun. 2. Couch play, tv hookup easy 3. Low cost as compared to pc 4. Even in perfect settings on pc, i had really bad experience of game crashes constantly. Bcoz where i live, everything is pirated from windows to softwares, no laws stopping them. So when gaming on a pc which is loaded with pirated windows, and softwares, anything can go wrong. 5. After every few years, newer games tend to be more demanding in pc and the same pc which was built using 2000$ and was able to play latest game on ultra, now struggle on medium. So constant upgrade is frustrating. Busy person, busy life, just get only a day or two in a week, so dont want to waste that on configuring things rather than actually playing game.
PC, plugs into TV as easily as console, click the game, runs straight away like console but better, over the duration of console lifespan the PC works out cheaper if you include games and online sub and when it comes to games becoming demanding, console lowers settings to maintain performance same as PC but with PC we can upgrade as and when we want, heck, I am running latest games in ultra and still perform better than consoles and my PC is 3 years old.
How do so many people struggle with simple logic? Why would you need to upgrade to keep up with the even older hardware in consoles? You people need to wear a helmet in public I swear
@@Farscape_247on pc just click on the game and play ? 😂 what a lie Windows updates , stupid errors sometimes , bad optimizations , a new game release ( where I can find it in the 300000 launchers) Video games are best optimised on consoles because is the same hardware everywhere. I had a pc with r5 3600 16gb rtx2070s and still choose playin on my ps4slim or series s
@@mord7072 yeah ok, i have both consoles and they flat out suck, constantly crashing, save file corruption, constant updates and inferior graphics. more choice on pc, better pricing and way more game genres to choose from. And no i don't deal with windows updates, when they arrive they install without me even noticing and finalise when i choose to restart or shutdown the pc. Psst, I can also keep playing when Xbox live goes down which is quite often.
Just to add "one more little thing" to the PC side ... What about the INFINITE amount of GAMES that ARE NOT on PS nor XBOX ? ... Yep, I think that's a real PLUS on the PC side. Thanks
Honestly, you don't have the time to play all the interesting games out there anyway, so I think the point is kinda moot. Gaming is one of my primary hobbies, but it still takes me months to finish a single game.
this. There are entire genres that did not make it to the console space or are severely behind their PC counterpart. Factory games, grand strategies, tycoons, etc. Also so many awesome indies on PC and on top of that - game moding!
42 Life long PC gamer, built half a dozen PCs in my life, just recently made the switch to console. I'm just over the price of GPUs anymore when I can be all in for $500 or less and every new game is optimized for consoles it is a no brainer. So many new releases run like garbage on PC at release even if you have a good rig, it takes months for patches and optimization on PC..plus I'm old and have less time to game lol
You know, years ago, I started watching your channel because I wanted to build a PC for gaming. I'm doing things I never thought I'd be doing. It really is an experience in itself.
I’m slowly making that same journey you’re on now. I’m currently on Xbox. The only thing keeping be back are the exclusives (one day gta 6), and cross platform on certain games
Very much true. The fact that a console killer PC price during the ps3/xbox360 & ps4/xbox x/s era was with new parts versus now which requires used pricing is depressing.
I can remember when a decent mid level PC cost LESS than an X-Box or PlayStation. The late 2000s and early 2010's was the golden age for PC gaming entry.
If you're on a budget when it comes to PC, you kind of have to think out of the box, I went on AliExpress, and got a somewhat oddball Chinese Erying MATX Mobo with an included a Intel Core I9 12900H( yes it's originally a laptop chip but it's 14 cores/20 threads with a 5Ghz turbo boost) that cost me less buying a mobo, and CPU separate close to the specs. Also the used market, or if you're willing to get your hands dirty, and have access to the e-waste bin at your local recycle drop off, you can sometimes find some decent gear that with some basic upgrades can still game, and do daily PC task. I literally just built my 5 year old nephew a basic gaming PC for Minecraft(Classic Cube on Linux so no MS account needed) out of an HP e-waste system with an Intel Core i7-2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB SSD, and an old AMD R7 350 2GB GPU I had in the parts bin doing nothing, so for his age and the basic game he plays it does fine on a 1080p 75hz monitor, even if I have to drop it down to 720p in game, as he's happy as can be.
@@digizilla164 Until you play Dragon's Dogma 2 on PC with 100 FPS vs the slideshow experience by comparison on console, then you realize as an adult you don't have to put up with that nonsense.
true. if you mostly just wanna play games that are also on consoles.. just get a console. If you like playing games that are exclusive on PC. or you also do other stuff like Photo/video editing which require a strong PC. just stick with PC.
Honestly though, PC defiantly has its perks with more game variety, but can also do a lot of things a Console can’t. But if you Lena casual gamer consoles are still goated. For 500$ you can play games and have fun. I swapped to PC just becuase console game variety was mid for the last couple years.
Forgot to mention that for every 1 or 2 games that come out on console, there is about 15 that come out on PC. And a large amount of games on PC can be modded and tweeked into anything you want.
@@solosuck You can think that all you want but it's not true. Mobile destroyed the PC market which is why every company that makes PCs (think Dell) is a complete piece of crap when they used to be the tech giants.
PC Master Race..... Heres why -No Extra Cost for playing online -Games on Console all cost 10 bugs more than Pc Games -Mouse and Keyboard and Controller support -Steam( Sales make up for the Money you payed more on your Pc over the Console) -120-240 FPS -And all the pros Jay Mentioned So its pretty save to say PC is actually Cheaper than Consoles
i swear it's only the pc players that keep saying that consoles are dying. pc players are getting on us console gamers mothafuqin nerves bruh when they keep saying them lies also going on about ""pc is better this, pc graphics better that, pc frame rates better this, pc mouse/keyboard better that, pc master race destroys all console peasants, pc will put consoles out of existence, pc is more affordable, blah blah blah"" & us young people (console players) are all getting sick of it. us console gamers don't care if pc is better because consoles are doing just fine. i mean look at Japanese PlayStation & Nintendo of how great they are selling = consoles they are doing just fine and more fun to play on especially with having a far way better more friendly online community & fanbase with also being far less toxic in online play than pc any day. seems to me like pc players wants consoles to die off badly so that pc can be the only gaming platform left
@@1moblin2I think Nintendo is really the only “great” company left. They really are the only company left with exclusives since all ps and Xbox exclusives are going to pc. I think ps will be for the casual gamer, pc for the hardcore, and Nintendo for everyone. Xbox isn’t really in the console market like that anymore.
@@Jonfgc naw bruh your wrong nintendo is not the only good company because Sony is a great company too with their amazing PlayStation consoles, controllers, & portable handhelds while having many several hundreds stacked on hundreds of amazing Japanese/Asian hardcore games that everyone would like especially us minority people who tends to like Sony more. it's not only about nintendo. also i don't care about american xbox because their consoles & their games are pure boring out of this world to me which are most 98% boring american/western games & nothing else. then you have nintendo always sueing people over fan made games, emulators, & stuff so no they are not the only great company left
now when everything becomes digital you would think the price of games would go down a bit since they dont need to spend money on discs but no the greedy companies just want more money 😭
In reality they did go down as we're paying the same we did for games 30 + years ago and just recently with PS5 have we seen the 69 dollar price tag. the only reason we weren't paying 70 a game 10 years ago was because of it going digital.
@@dozilla77 lol, going digital has nothing to do with it as everything that's digital hasn't made things cheaper. It's more actually unless you get a sale or go to a third party place.
@@dozilla77Funny I remember buying Doom 2 on super Nintendo back when it came out for 70$, it was one of the most expensive games at the time. THe difference is we no longer need the catridges which were what made them so expensive. CDs and the like should have made it cheaper since they costed pennies each to produce and going digital costs them virtually nothing and even physical copies could just be cards like the Switch and only cost 20$ per unit and be bloated uncompressed files.
One thing I always tell people when they ask me about getting a PC is that yes, the price to enter is high but games are so often on sale that you end up saving so much money in the long run.
@@MrSamadolfo gamepass cost 10 bucks a month and comes with tripple a games on both systems. PC where cheap 6 years ago that's absolutely not the case today.
having a PC is only expensive if you get all brand-new cutting edge parts. that's why PC building got stupid. people like jay keep telling you to upgrade to keep themselves relevant.
I think the experience of playing on a console with a very restricted UI vs a custom PC with all the bells and whistles + modding support + ad blockers etc makes the argument a lot harder and it depends on if you're simply a "gamer" or a "PC enthusiast"
@admontblanc heard. Lol but I'd argue TF outta that shorter life span point. Maybe in terms of like performance but there's things to improve depending on your use and how you take care of it externally. For example my first laptop I still have its Toshiba Satellite 15in quad core amd 8 vision radeon 32gig ram with a recently installed 512 SSD replacing the HDD. Not as powerful as my omen but good as new. Been having it since 2013. Omen since 2020
Jay you started me on my journey when you first started, and I've been building my own custom rigs eversince. Just finished a custom build for my old boss ready for Christmas. Thank you for your channel thank you for inspiring me
One thing I love about PC is that the longer you have it the more money you save. No Xbox Live/PS Plus subscription, every game you buy will be in your steam library forever and almost always remains compatible with new PC hardware, and lets not forget about Steam sales.
exactly.. mine is 18 years old.. 1300 games.. all the AAAs I ever wanted. For this reason, I bought a 4090 and a 83" LG OLED with 120hz gsync............ fkn amazing experience
I have Xbox series x I don’t play online games I like campaign games buy the game on disc then sell it after completing so don’t cost me much for games
@@mar1134 That's the craziest thing to me about most PC gamers. Like, why would you suck at the teat of a website like Steam or Epic or install a GD "launcher" to play games? Windows _is_ a launcher and the _seven seas_ have all the "sales" you could ever want. Only limit is storage space and hardware that can play the games.
"Don't hook it up to a TV"... Here I am sitting on a OLED 4k LG C2. Unless I want more than 120Hz or I'm just plan stupid and screen burn it I'M NEVER GOING BACK
Same. Haven't used a monitor in years and my games look sick on my HDR 4k, especially if you have a powerful enough PC to run DLAA. It's damn near perfection 👍
We all game on 42in LG C2s as well. I will go back to a monitor eventually as I came from a Samsung Odyssey G9. After going OLED, I can never go back to anything else but I do miss ultraiwde/super ultrawide gaming and now they have pretty decent UW monitors that are not small. LG actually has a 42 inch ultrawide OLED out now but the C2 has been life changing. That was my first taste of OLED!
@@andrewsolis2988 you do know you can set up your lg oled to game using ultrawide res right ? i know its not quite the same, as your have black borders, still cool thou.
The PS5's audio tech is incredible. The controller and it's haptic feedback and adaptive triggers is amazing and brings more immersion to games (I'm aware that it's also available on PC for PS games that later came to PC). Also, PS5's HDR settings is really well done, unlike windows hdr which is complete crap. I'm a PC gamer and I also enjoy my PS5 for its exclusives.
This is very true, as a PC gamer and also a PS5 gamer there's a lot of one sided viewpoints here, to be expected on a PC channel. A lot of people are saying the games are stupidly expensive, but if you get PS+ there's almost no reason to be a single game... you get many hundreds of games, with dozens that are AAA quality and many are first party Sony titles as well! You can totally get away without buying a single game for the PS5
I usually play on xbox controller because I always had an xbox before I got into PC gaming. I just got one of the dualsense controllers and it's a great controller. Hopefully it last longer than xbox controllers have been since the new controller model that launched with the series X I'm doing good to get over 3 months out of one before stick drift or broken button
I ve been a console user for almost 25 yerars till I both my first PC for work, cost me only 500 GBP but it was a console killer in terms how games were looking like, 1.5 years later with a help of your channel and content available I builded my own rig and I know I will never comeback to console again,
I remember building my first PC with my dad when it was i386 processors… I knew from that point on what I wanted to do in life. Fast forward what 30+ years and I’m a Director of IT that always said I don’t want to touch computers when I get home from work (was consoles only from Xbox 360-PS5). I started getting into your channel last year as well as GN and Der8auer… Got right back into building computers! It felt so nice working on desktops and not just enterprise level crap… I really appreciate everything you do for this community and 100% it can help guide people into a lifelong career!
@@kwbarron I was a very young kid… I just stood there and touched things while my dad put it all together from a local shop. He was an electrician and into that as well :) my first personal custom pc was much like yourself; a i486 tower. I believe I still have my 3dfx box that we put in that!
@@dbrown23 I remember the 4MB 3dfx add on card from back in the 90's. That was a real powerhouse back in the day. I had one of those in my Pentium 200 with (maybe) 16MB RAM. An absolute blast to build and play on.
I'll add to this and say. There's no fee for being able to play with your friends on pc like you don't have to pay a subscription to Xbox live or PlayStation Network
I still would pick a PC even if just gaming, you still have more options available from games to mods and all that, like even something as simple as making a old game feel new with shader mods that you wouldn't be able to do with a console.
Built my first computer 25 years ago, but didn't build a second one until 2018. Now I have built around 20 and some really high spec with water-cooling, one of cases and even furniture builds.
I moved from console to PC in late 2015. Bought a Costco HP tower with a 6700 and put a 970 and PSU in it. The itch started. Realized I wanted a full custom PC so I restored the HP back to stock, returned it, and built one myself. The itch grew. Built a friend a photo editing PC that can play games. That turned into a few more friends wanting me to build them one. Nine years and at least two dozen builds later, PC building is a passion of mine. And Jay's channel is, in part, to thank for that.
@@secularspectator That's probably a part of it, I became even more interested in gaming after learning how to build PCs. I can mod the games, I can mess with settings in those games, I can have a higher FOV, I can crank the settings to max or set them to the lowest settings for a huge fps gain and I can even max out my monitor's refresh rate at 165 hz by doing that and the games feel so much better and more responsive to play
The one thing you did not mention when considering price is over the life of a console, if you want to play online, you will spend another $500+ just for the "privilege" of online gaming. That is a major cost that many people seem to gloss over. PC gaming has been 100% free to play online for decades, and most likely will remain for decades to come. Two generations for consoles will have bled you around $1k JUST to play online, plus that much more for the last 2 generations of console. (ps4, ps5, xbox one, series x/s)
Which is doubly funny because the services they provide are just hosting the download servers for the games, all the "online" game play is locally hosted on the console.
Yup, I facepalm so hard when console gamers say PC gaming is too expensive. Like brother, I spent $700 on my PC in 2018, it still runs AAA games at 60fps in 2024 lol console gaming is way more expensive. $500 game box + $360 worth of Xbox Live and you’re already paying significantly more than me. Plus the games they buy are pretty much always full price.
@@charlesbrown4483 Console games go on sale just like Steam. I think more are offered on the console side actually, as I can't even remember the last time I bought a game for full price on console. You give it a month, and it starts going down. Same thing on PC. For people that have both, they really aren't all that different aside from a yearly cost to play competively.
I have a good gaming PC and a PS5 and i found that, if you turn off all the "optimizations" ( vrr, 120hz, hdr, etc ) it feels just like a pc regarding latency ( on controller ) and it's quite a good gaming experience with excellent graphics. Having said that......a PC is a PC....much higher frame rates, tweaks, mods, etc and you're not confined to that particular platform. So, in the end....PC is the way to go.
Some things that weren't mentioned: - modding on PC is quite big - on consoles, you have to pay extra for basic stuff like playing online or backing up your saves
Also I feel like the games last longer and are actually around to build communities. I’m still playing arma 3 today and that game is over 13 years old.
Even if consoles can close the performance gap with PC, there’s still too many other perks to using a PC. 1. Mods 2. Steam Sales (cheaper games) 3. Free Online Service 4. Emulators 5. Much broader library of games. 6. All the other functions/programs that PC can utilize that can’t be done in console.
Since building my first PC about 2 years ago, I have convinced three of my friends to make the switch from console and helped them build their PC’s. Addicting hobby for sure!
17 seconds in and I've already had a good chuckle "whether or not you should just say screw it with PC, and get a console *dramatic music*" straight into the sponsored segment about a gaming PC
As much as I hate to admit it, PC ports of modern games have been so terrible lately that the appeal of something that mostly "just works" is much more grounded now.
I’ve always played consoles. I want to try a pc but I have no idea where to start. It seems a bit of a minefield to me and have no idea what I should prioritise.
Reviews first and foremost. If you're planning on buying a prebuilt, look on RUclips to see if anyone's reviewed it and go from there. Figure out your wants, expectations, and budget. What games are you planning on playing? Do you want to run games on medium settings or maxed? Lots of games don't require 4090's to play on max settings, a 3060/3070 might do you just fine. Do you care about a flashy case with lots of rgb fans, or are you okay with a cheap plain case? Take your time, do your research, watch videos, and don't rush. Think it over for a bit before pulling the trigger.
It's wild that now at the age of 30 I can remember a time when literally NOBODY gave 2 shits about PC stuff. When I was in highschool not that long ago, we had MAYBE 6 of us that were into PC hardware and what not. Now a days everyone is into this, which is pretty damn cool. From taking apart my moms Dell apart in 2001 to where things are now, what a fun journey. Also, if you are into PC stuff and you are broke, just find shitty old PCs people/schools/businesses are throwing away and just tear them apart, swap parts from other machines play around with stuff. So much fun. PC building is just the best
I always had a PC and consoles both. When I was a kid, it was TI99/4A - a console and PC in one. Then it was Sega Master System and Genesis with a 386/DX and a Pentium... in the 6th generation, I didn't have a PC because so much good stuff was on consoles. Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2, NGC... truly a golden age. Now... there's just nothing. Just get a PC and maybe a Switch if you like the portability (and don't want a Steam Deck), and you're covered for pretty much everything worth playing.
I became a software engineer out of a passion for building my gaming PC back when I was 10. My mom always motivated that because she knew it could lead to a career. We didn't have money to purchase parts, so I started fixing PCs to make my builds, and one thing led to another. I also know people who have been in a similar situation. I often talk to parents who are afraid of the PC hobby, and I always tell them to direct their kids. Of course, as anything, it can become a bad thing. But if a kid is properly directed, a silly hobby can expand a myriad of career possibilities a few years later. The possibilities a PC brings, the curiosity it attracts, and the problem-solving skills you have to develop, are things that cannot be neglected. On the other hand, a console is obviously just a console. Anyways, I haven't played a single game for years now, but I still have a custom PC and refuse to work on laptops. I guess the passion is still there. Edit: your channel has a great part on that. So thank you!
@12:00 It does become addictive. I built my first PC last year and had an instant itch to do another one right away; Luckily my wife wanted her own PC as well after seeing mine which I built for her about a week later and much more efficiently lol.
When I play CoD on console I always feel a slight lag in my play and when playing against other players who have gaming PCs they always seem to have a slight advantage regardless of their actual game play. Are my observations valid?
"Don't hook up your PC to a TV" - and here's me with a 42" LG C3 that is a superior display to any monitor I've previously owned and costs less. Unless you play competitive esports and/or FPS games you don't need a 240Hz + monitor.
I think it depends on your setup no? If I had a PC in my living room I'd for sure get a TV like that for it, but for at my desk anything more than like 27-32" is waaaayyy too big imo
Lol. I am also on a LG OLED. I switched from an Asus Proart 4K monitor which cost a shitload of money. And the LG is just perfect. Especially for gaming. But also streaming. Mounted it to my wall directly behind my desk. It’s just great.
People always forget about the subscription to play online for console. Over a 5 year period, $60/year, can take your $500 to $800. Then all your games are on Xbox, you find out your friends are on PS, or vice versa, can't play with your friends etc.
this is true to a point but at least with Xbox all those games and contacts are also available to you on PC, also over that 5 year period you get access to 100+ games, that evolves over the time period, including new AAA releases, to play as much as you like, on both your Xbox and your PC pretty seamlessly, A year of all that for less than the cost of 1 of those AAA games. your additional cost point is muddied by the fact that it would cost more to buy 1x AAA game ($70-80) a year, 1 game! Xbox subscription automatically gives you access to 100+ games including AAA games for less than 1 game a year, and again, Xbox access available on PC also.
@TPBOOMER69 What if I have no interest in playing the games that my Microsoft corporate overlords decide that I get to play for free alongside my arbitrary and unnecessary payment to unlock the privilege of playing games on the console online? After I already paid the extortionate price for the console and the games that I actually want to play? If you think "free" games somehow justify you spending money on a subscription just to use the product that you already paid for then I hate to break it to you but those games weren't free. Especially when you consider that if you don't pay for your subscription next month then you lose access to them entirely, congratulations you just paid for nothing.
@@VikingKong. then you buy that title along side, but if you cant find a game in an ever changing library of 100+ games then the subscription is not for you, and well yes if you stop paying for access to the library, there not going to keep letting you use it are they lol, but also on that note, you can renew anytime, & as soon as you pay get instant access to them all again. and I'm guessing your still buying all your games physically, because if not those digital copies are only good as long as the service you purchased them through continues support for them lol, so if they give up on that games support, congratulations, you just paid for nothing! lol you say extortionate price for the console but its pretty wide spread information that Sony & Microsoft both don't really make a profit on the hardware, they keep the price viable to get people on the platform, both sides make their money in subscriptions and game sales.
@@TriPBOOMER I do think that Game Pass is definitely worth it for having access to games to play. Mostly for story based games which might not have replayability its wonderful. That doesn't block off the fact you HAVE to pay for a subscription service to play online with consoles at all. For PC the subscriptions are an optional bonus, for consoles its a necessity that shouldn't be there. The point of the excess cost still exists and with PS+ costing $80/yr and Game Pass Core costing $120/yr and Ultimate, the console version of standard PC Game Pass, being $200/yr (according to Microsoft's own website on a monthly subscription) you're looking at $560-$1400 over the course of a console lifetime as a REQUIRED cost to simply play online. Also Game Pass Core, the cheaper $10/mo option, only has access to 25 games and not the hundreds of GP Ultimate, which if you want cross-platform access on pc, is required.
@@hvyarms4496 Except you can play Ps5 exclusives now on PC. but for these games Demon's Souls Returnal Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart Astro's Playroom Destruction AllStars Sackboy: A Big Adventure Spider-Man: Miles Morales Gran Turismo 7 (upcoming) while we have many great games you can't play on PC. That have way bigger play bases and more loyal. lol I mean they even make some games saying the consoles can't handle them because they are to big and require to much.
I have a Series X and Ps5 Pro, and for me it's just ease of access and comfortability using the console. I was kinda pressured to try pc by family and it was a nice Asus laptop with a i9 and a 3070ti but I honestly just hated it. It was so much more complicated to use and to get the system configured. It was also difficult with updates, figuring out resolution, and figuring out controllers. Also hated keyboard controls and found steam really clunky compared to xbox live or psn
@@Phone_Steveyanything after ps3 is considered current gen as companies are still making new games for ps4/ps5. And a pc can play all of them and Xbox titles, Plus we can emulate switch games even if it’s only 30 or 60 fps, so really it’s all consoles
Huge advantage to consoles. The vast majority of the games are on the media, do not require the internet to install or play and cannot be blocked from playing. Edit, apparently he thinks theres no passion for console.... this is just wrong
I’ve built many computers for myself and for others and I love it each time! I don’t go as custom as you with the water cooling etc but I really enjoy it!
I would choose a PC over a console because: 1. It offers a much better gaming experience, whether I use a controller or a mouse and keyboard. 2. The image quality on gaming monitors and TVs is superior. 3. I can perform all my work tasks on it. 4. It operates extremely quietly during gaming sessions. 5. I can upgrade it incrementally as needed. On the other hand, I can see how a console might be better because: 1. It's very compact and user-friendly. 2. It's cost-effective (I won't need to upgrade it six times a year). 3. It's much easier to use as a party entertainment system, with support for 4-6 player games that are easier to find and play. 4. It's more convenient to transport during work travel (though I wouldn't do so). 5. I can use its controllers with my existing gaming PC.
my currentr computer i've had since 2018 i've got one set of upgrades 1 time in 2022 that's like 4 years after building it so what are you talking about upgrading ti 6 times in one year.... it's 2024 not 1994
1. Depends on the PC you have. 2. This makes no sense 3. What if you just want to play games 4. Both consoles are quieter than most pcs 5. You just buy a new console when needed at 500 bucks is half the price of one single gpu upgrade
If you need to upgrade 6 times in a year, you're pretty much just building a new system, and at that point it probably means you've made a bad initial decision on the original PC in the first place, whether that's building a super imbalanced one or buying a bad pre-built. PC is really the cost effective platform if you save up and pay the higher upfront cost for it. Not having to pay to play online, getting more and better sales on PC and not having to buy new $60+ controllers every couple of years will over time cost just about as much as you'd be paying for a console, and then having to do all of those things on console will just equal out over time all while you don't get to choose what settings, resolutions and frame rates you want to play at.
i got bit by the bug back in 2016 with pc gaming while in the military. after i got out i got more into computer and how they work. started watching you and linus and now i have a whole new career in IT and plan to be a project manager one day.
PC = Multitasking... second and + Monitors... Cheaper games... can run other Programms like PS LR .... Mods for Games... special interest games like simulations. And the most important thing is, if a Game runs not smooth u can change settings till it runs smooth
I think the biggest factor is budget- to have a pc that plays games at level of a series x and ps5 you’d be paying the price of both consoles if not more. Anyway, just get all three it'll solve the problem of deciding
No you've got that wrong, i play Ps5 and Pc myself, mainly PS5 i built my wife a Pc 2 months ago for a little under 900 euro's. She plays GTA 5 with me looking better than the Ps5 version i can tell you that. Pc just has way better on shadows and draw distance.
What hit me is your comments about the PC bug or making a career change. Thats what happened to me. I made the switch from console to PC back in the HD3870 era and all I wanted to do was build computers. I made a career change from working for steam fitters to building computers. Since then I worked my way up from building computers in the training and simulation space to now I am a program manager for a large technology company. Youre right you hardly ever hear of anyone making a life choice like this with consoles.
The easy answer is both. There are some games I just want to lay on the couch in my living room and play on my 75" TV and relax. Then there are certain games I wouldn't even want to play on console.
@@KevDawg1992 this is just a trash why of playing games , you can do that for a time but not for years and that's what makes console so good for couch gaming.
@@BeyondReasonableClout Not quite. We can emulate up to the PS3 gen. PS4 is only just starting up emulation, PS5 not at all. XB1 and Series X haven't started emulation at all.
1. Upgradability; 2.Choice of OS; 3.Doing anything else besides gaming and entertainment; 4.Way more choice of peripherals which can be used; 5.Tinkering with it. There you go. In favor of PC, obviously.
@@firestorm4477 I own a lot of old games like for example Syphon Filter on the PS1, you can't play it on a PS4 even if you still have the disc, but they will still generously sell it to you again. And that is the story of how I got into PC emulation. I still have the Syphon Filter disc and multiple copies of the iso I ripped from it on several emulation consoles.
@@anderssorenson9998 yeah, even if they resell the old games it’s still not worth it because you can always have a better experience emulating it with upscaling, custom higher res textures, QoL patches, and the ability to use any controller in existence.
I'm 62 , been building computer since windows 3.1 ... And my last gaming PC I built 9 years with windows 7 , still runs today ... Looking at jumping over to console system....
As a kid I loved consoles and when the Iphone came out, I loved jailbreaking and fixing other peoples busted jailbroken Ipods. I always told myself I would never be smart enough to be a computer engineer, but after watching tech channels like yours, I realized my passion for computers and have been pursuing a career in Computer Science ever since
I emulate 27 consoles, have over 30 controllers, can play 30+ years worth of pc games from drm free services like GoG, and get cheap or free games on steam and epic games. I can go virtual reality, desktop, laptop, or handheld form factors. Uh… why would I ever buy a console again?
My reason as well. Console's just for entertainment, just that. PC can do a lot more, games go on sale a lot. Consoles can't run exe files, you can't develop applications there and emulators doesn't work.
I have a mechanical engineering bachelor's degree and an electrical engineering master's degree. I work as a computer engineer, doing both computer hardware and software development. I also do that stuff as a hobby.
Thats why I have both PC and console. Can game on the main monitor with my console and run whatever I want on my PC without having to worry about resource contention issues or constantly having to alt-tab out of my game just to click something on my second monitor. When you use your PC for a lot of things outside of gaming it is a pain in the ass to also try to game on it.
On auto stand, expand storage on any console that matters people put SSB in their PS4 all the time replacing the hard drive in there with a much larger ssd which improve both the performance and the storage space
I'm slowly moving over to console, simply because I'm getting older and appreciate laying back on my sofa more. Yet I suck at console and the experience isn't even a fraction of my (now also aging) GTX1080 rig.
I don't know how people can play a video game with the tv screen so far away. I bought a standing table for my living room so I can sit rite up to the tv 😊
as you get older and your eyesight fades you will need to get a pc to get 400 fps on games at 12k soo i say stick with PC's. it will also keep you on sharp as you age cause of all the troubleshooting and tinkering
Building a PC is like building a fast car or restoring one. It's not just playing games or using a PC. It's a whole learning experience with endless paths to go down.
I had a boss 25 years ago make the same observation when he overheard me talking about a PC I was building. I pointed out that being a shade tree mechanic wasn't really possible once everything was tied to computer software in the car. I rebuilt a Chrysler slant 6 in the late 80's, but that wasn't happening with anything in the 90's.
For me building a pc is about spending four times the price of console for worse performance. That’s how it has been for the past two generations for me. A gaming pc is only good for running past gen games. Because it will run them at high and stable frame rate. Forget doing that with current gen games.
I think I built a PC in the gold days: in 2017 It still holds up to this day. It does not run games in max, but it runs most of recent games with no issues. I spent 1000$ or so back then
@@dfxjedi There is no right side of the number. It varies by region and language. After always makes more sense anyways, it's not Dollars 1000 its 1000 Dollars.
2017 for me as well. PUBG had me in a hypnotic episode. I enjoyed building my PC skill much. About 2k with a 7700k and a OC 1080. Was just running Spiderman at 70-80 fps on max settings. I'm sitting here every day thinking about a PS5. The comfort, matchmaking and exclusives is calling me. Grew up on Xbox and with Halo and Gears gone I just don't see a reason. PC will always be there for upgrades as well.
I have both PC and PS5. I see the pros and cons to both. However, saying that a con a console is it breaking is a touch unfair. PC’s have many parts by both expensive, cheap and in between manufacturers with just has many issue if not more ranging across them all. They can both break. I’ve had more issues with a PC part going bad than a console having its “red ring of death”
I’d choose PC over console for the wealth and breadth of games from 30 years ago to now. They’re basically all playable, even if you have to jump through some hoops. Also, they can be enhanced either with Nvidia control panel or with mods. I love to be able to customise, even down to the thumb screws I use. The faster FPS is a big one for me, playing games at 144hz is MUCH smoother than 60hz!
Just wait for PC2. Gonna be sweet.
That was supposed to be the IBM PS/2 .
I'm on PC10 already.
But does it satisfy the GN X factor...
PC PRO is going to be awesome.
Facepalm @@FcoEnriquePerez
only way I go back to console is if they stop making PCs
My man 👊
Same here. Consoles are too locked down for me to be able to tinker with.
or if thay change input to mnk
Same here.
I think most of them do support mnk now. Games with crossplay sometimes show mnk as the input for console players. @@unlikerex5475
I will say this. With the amount of games I bought on steam on sale, I probably made up for the cost of my PC tenfold vs a console.
Exactly, this needs to be more at the forefront of such discussions. Not just cheaper, you also never need to re-buy your games on future hardware generations.
@@seeibe When you buy new console, you can keep the old one if you want to play old games.
You buy pc games?
Don't forget on consoles you need a subscription to even play any games online.
@@McGeezlebecause steam sales are awesome... personally I buy from steam only because I know the likely hood of steam shutting doors are alot less likely then companies like epic games.
Consoles are like Honda Civics, they work great for what they are designed for. PCs are like blank project cars whose performance is going to be totally based on the budget.
One big reason I love pc gaming is the fact a lot of games have greater longevity via modding.
And if you’re short on money, you can always get a pirated version until you have the chance to support the game
@@Iesous27 and chances are you can buy them at a huge discount as sales on PC are far more prevalent and at a higher discount.
And I can play a game from the PS2 Days without changing consoles or generations... PC "1.0" playable from the noughties to the present.
Was just going to mention the MODing on PC's. I have both a PC and a PS4 but enjoy my PC more.
@Iesous27 thanks for the drm
For me, the killer PC app is adblocker. I haven't willingly watched an ad (outside of the cinema) for around 20 years. I live an ad-free life.
Yeah, I have the adblock-trifecta: pi-hole, adblocker, and a browser with a built-in adblocker (and on top of that, I pay for a family plan of YT Premium)
Me too, and I grew up without TV (only VHS)
Same.
Facts, and I'm always surprised a lot of people don't know about it and when I see ads on other people's machines 😮
There is such a thing? 😲😲😲🤦♂️
You hit the nail on the head there. Having a "gaming PC" is so much more than gaming for me. I get endless amounts of joy tinkering and planning my next upgrades.
Absolutely, same for me. It's also about the mechanical and upgrading that I get a stiffy for
And with a gaming PC, you have everything on one machine. If you own a console, it's highly likely you'll also own either a laptop or basic PC too for other stuff.
That is exactly why a console could be better someone else...
I'm not interested in getting a CS degree to be able to do all that shit.
I'm here to game. Not tinker. So lol no thanks
I am disabled, lost my legs 4 years ago. My family lost too. I am now on my own at 52 years old in the UK. I do not have extra money other than my monthly allowances & I am permanently housebound medically.
I cannot even start making PC's as a home sit down business because I cannot get the funding. I will watch your videos & learn anyway.
I have never had an issue with any console in the 40 years I have been playing computer games.
Damn, sorry about your situation. If you can move around with a wheelchair I would do that. Try to go outside and talk to people on occasion.
Try to find people in your area to maybe teach/help you with computers maybe?
Definitely read the Bible
Remember:
THIS life is only temporary
The NEXT life is what's going to last
@@Dreadeyeknight Amen
I'm 41 and paralyzed too.....also homeless. I had a PS5 with a portable monitor attached but it was big and bulky and hard to travel with.
I ended up getting an Acer predator Helios 18" with an rtx 4090 graphics card 32gb and 14 gen i9 processor and it changed my life.
I never new gaming had advanced this far and with all the corks & crashes and just downright 🐂......I still think PC is better and it makes PS5 games seem like a PS3 games in comparison.
Built my first PC when I was 15. Glad I started this hobby, it gave me money making skills that changed my life. I got into IT and now I'm a Network Engineer. All because I wanted to get into PC gaming.
Imagine if you had gotten into consoles instead...you'd be Louis Rossman now :)
can you become network engineer by getting certs or do you have to have a bachelor
you'd be an anomaly, most people waste thousands of dollars on what becomes a time sink that teaches them nothing besides how to install a few drivers
I'm a network engineer and I do as much gaming on console as possible.
@thestig007 exactly the same story with me as well, apart from I built my first PC when I was 10, it was out of my dads old parts he had left over after many upgrades 😅
I'm old enough to get tired of this console vs PC thing.
I have both of them and I appreciate them.
Fuckin A. There's so many reasons to own either/or. It's annoying and needs to go away.
PC MASTER RACE
have a Switch and have a PC, like... as far as I'm concerned, as long as you know what you are getting into, and you are making the choice for the right reasons, more power to you. I don't like people that are just "Console better." no PC is better from an objective standpoint, but that doesn't mean that a console can't fill a specific need. if what you get with a PC is not needed, and you just want to play (approved) games and watch Netflix or CR, then get a console. if you like the idea of game pass get an xBox, if you like the features of PlayStation then get that. if you want portability get a switch, it doesn't matter. a PC will get you further, but a console isn't a bad choice at the end of the day if all you want to do is play video games and watch netflix.
I built a new PC, and bought a PS5 on the same day. Both are good. I prefer my PC, but PlayStation has games I really want to play
These types of video are more catered to those that are younger or live in conditions not allowing them to own both. These people usually have to make a decision that have consequences lasting years until they find themselves in a position to upgrade.
$400 is just the down payment for a console. The more you play, the more you pay. Monthly subscription fees and terrible controller stick drift etc.
@AnimeComics-j7z Which defeats the purpose of console being the cheaper, easier, plug-and-play platform
Like every Anti virus protection is free and cheap and and mice n keyboards never fail......🤡🤡🤡
@@christownsend552 Windows Defender is a free and decent antivirus software. Odd choice of mentioning anti-malware of all things...
@@christownsend552 Windows defender is all you need which is free. I’ve played thousands of hours on MnK and never had an issue. While both of my PS5 controllers had the same drastic stick issues.
@@ATREES I'm on ps4 n. I still don't have an issue out my controllers, and it's only $60 a year, not $80. For a community willing to spend 100s , almost 1000s of dollars on one component, $60 bucks a year is what breaks your pocket book. I'm pc n console, and I've played on my console than my pc
The thing i find people like alot about consoles is the fact you just plug it in and play, and you dont have to worry about it a game will run or not, but for me with PCs, I probably spend more time playing with the hardware, running benchmarks (Timespy & cinebench for example) and trying to overclock it, than i do actually gaming on it
That's on you then brother.
@@flaw885ok? But it’s a fact. A console is much simpler and on PC some games don’t run unless you spent $500+ on it and sometimes that doesn’t even matter when some games are just made for the console. On a PS5 you turn it on, pick a game, and play it. You don’t have to mess with the settings to make the game work properly.
@@Man-p9c I play on console currently but on pc you literally do the same thing but you can change around your graphic settings in a minute to fit what type of build you have and be good. Yeah you can just boot it up on a console and play but you are locked to 30-60fps on most big titles
@@cam_mich Most of the games I play on the PS5 I get 60-120 FPS. If you play on a PC that isn’t brand new with older used parts to compare to the price of a PS5 then you have to figure out how to optimize certain games by turning the settings and quality down in order to have a decent frame rate. On consoles all the games are optimized for it and all you do is just turn on and play with a decent FPS and good graphics quality as well. If you do that with a PC you’re going to have a bad time on certain games where it can be unplayable if your hardware is not compatible with the game. That is not an issue with consoles, they are more consistent.
most of us voting for PC is because we all have multiple purposes of pc not just gaming .yt, work, twitch, editing movies,. multiple screens. and so on..
Console keyboard and mouse support? No, okay no.
@@antipathy17Xbox and PlayStation both have keyboard and mouse support
PC + PS5 or XBox
Nobody says it has to be one or the other.
The reason why many choose console is because they already sit front of the desc during work hours, paying bills etc. so when they wanna relax and enjoy gaming it's much nicer to lie or sit comfortably on the couch and relax. Also console you can take with you where ever you go, pc u cant. Console is also easier, just put it on and play... no playing endlessly with settings before u are good to play.
@@susanna8612 I understand what you're saying but PCs are just as portable if you get a smaller case and you can also play a PC on a TV and use an Xbox controller
I game on both PC and PS5, thats my preference. I’ll always have my PC build in one of the bedrooms, and one of the Consoles in the living room.
Same
I have Do the same except I have an Xbox Series X.
Both in the living room for me cause it’s easy to move my ps5 to the bedroom, just swap an hdmi and bring the power cord and my living room is bigger to accommodate my setup. Great system.
Same dont need an xbox with pc
Yeah pc and ps5 are the best combination
Consoles are entertainment devices. PCs are entertainment, creativity and work devices. Nobody's creating a RUclips channel on their PS5 or coding on their PS5 or editing music on their PS5.
I mean. You could though. Live streaming on a PS5 is 100 percent possible. (Not the other stuff though)
nor do console gamers have computer viruses
Back in the ps3 days I wondered why Sony didn't port over their video editing suite that was included with Sony built PCs.
The controller would have been great for editing by using the analog sticks for shuttle and jog.
Some of us don't do youtube, code or edit, I've got a pretty powerful laptop but only really use it for watching youtube these days. was a waste of money really.
@@kylepawson true I built a gaming PC in 2016 for SWBF2 then I started playing Fortnite betta test in 2020 my PC could no longer play either game luckly I had a PS4 and Xbox and Switch never went back to PC gaming
I got into PC gaming watching my father play stuff like Fallout, Baldur's Gate, and Half Life on the family computer. Just this last Christmas I upgraded his old tower, went from a 4690k and GTX 970 to a 7800X3D and a rescue 3090.
PC gamer since the Amiga 500 got retired, and until FPS games was ruined around 2005 or so.
Building PC since 700 mhz
@@pliashmuldbaLOL... FPS HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT I mean First Person Shooters, i gamed on a 22" CRT with 200 FPS and 200 Hz back in the early 00s
@@pliashmuldba I ALSO MEAN FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS, THAT HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT Not from what i have seen, actually i have not really seen a FPS game that even looked half interesting in the past 2 decades.
NO Battle royale for me.
No calling in stuff or weapon upgrade / skill tree
And no Medic stuff, jabbing yourself with needles or padding your self with kevlar ASO
And if it do not have Capture The Flag i am not interested, it must also have always run i can not bother with getting slowed down by stamina ASO.
I always just tell my friends "if you cant afford to build/buy a PC that performs better than your console, just stick with console". No sense in trying to scrape together some 600-700 dollar budget pc that is gonna perform identical/worse than your console. just imo
Depends a lot on the kind of videogames you want to play though. Games like LOL and strategy games aren't even available in any other platform or if you also want to emulate older consoles , PC is really good at it. Also having option of playing with mouse and keyboard or switching to controller depending on the game is very convenient and I like the flexibility that a PC has. But then there's a lot of things to consider, if power is all that matters then why does the Nintendo switch alone sells better in any country than a Xbox series S/X and PS5 combined?
Gonna be late on this one, however that's only worth it if your feiend is strictly thinking about playing games.
PC has so much more use for school/work or side projects and just by default browsing on it is very comfortable.
Consoles come with a lot of mtx memberships that you have to pay for while on PC most things can be a single purchase so in the long run it should come out ahead in terms of budget after all consoles usually sell at a loss or very close to it because they bet on you buying all of those memberships in the long run to make up for them making the hardware more accessible.
If you build a budge PC, one can watch Jay here or Paul at Paul's Hardware to learn where you money should go to first. I started out with an AMD 5700 series card and 16GB of ram. I upgraded to a 3800 TI and 32GB of RAM. Games which didn't look as good as on the console all of the sudden looked better.
My next upgrade will be to a 4070TI. My Ryzen 7 3700X is still holding out, but even if I needed to upgrade that, the 5800 version is fantastic for gaming. This will hold me for years to come with games. Building for future considerations and upgrades is possible with a PC. Not so with a console. You will end up spending as much as I do over a decade or longer going the console route, and have no path other than getting a console every 4 years.
@@JacobHowland-w5j lmao Name one AAA game. I need a PC to play
A slight worse pc is better than a better console, because its a pc. You can do so much.
What’s nice with the PC is you can still use it for work and everything else. Just get an Xbox controller you can plug in, and a 32 inch screen monitor. Also depending on your PC build, you can upgrade parts when new ones come out.
I work on a pc all day though so honestly I use my consoles in another room setup for games and movies and go back to my pc a bit on the weekend.
@@jd-py5nm A advantage of PC's for a lot of us is the building of it. Inspired by this channel I decided to do hard line water cooling.
When all the equipment arrived and I was surrounded by fittings and pipes and radiators and enough wiring to fit out the star ship enterprise I remember thinking
"This is that Jay's fault" But I'm glad I did it. It's part of the fun
if you hook up a keyboard and mouse to xbox you can do most everything you need to do as long as you can do it with a browser.
I use my pc for sim racing and music production, i also own a ps5 that i never use 😂
Less cheaters on consoles
PC gamers love praising they're machine while ignoring it's flaws. Thousands of troubleshooting tutorials and forums about game fixes/bugs/crashes say otherwise.
And you ignore the millions of people enjoying playing on pc instead of on forums bitching.
It's a mental hygiene thing for me. After 6 hours of office work on a computer, a pc is the last thing I want to look at.
I agree with you, during pandemic all I did was being in front of a computer and I own a PC with low specs and I know I can upgrade and I will, but I need something specifically to play, just that, that’s why I think I might be buying a console, anyway have a good day my friend
underrated comment!
but a console is technically a computer...
@ImARocketMan258 you can use PC "as a console" if you connect it to your TV.
i literally have been feeling this
Console:
1. Ability to resell games and buy used games
2. Lower price and easier initial setup.
3. No compatibility or system requirement guesswork
4. Clear separation between work and play.
5. Collection display
PC:
1: Game Bundles
2. Control over parts and programs
3: Mods
4. Better but not perfect ability to carry games forward across systems
5. Easier to use for other tasks.
PC: gaming is bonus, you can do anything on it. Console: can only do gaming lmao
Steam's refund program is the best in gaming which is a big perk on PC. I've never understood buying a game if you're just going to sell it. If that's the case, you might as well sub to Game Pass. Also, if you buy a prebuilt pc, there's nothing any more difficult about the setup than a console. Nor is there any compatibility guess work. It's not difficult to figure out what a suitable gaming pc is for what you kind of experience you want.
@@cronyan I disagree. On PC gaming is a luxury that you have to opt in to when you buy your laptop. On a console gaming and the associated performance is certain. There are some laptops out there that have under 100gb of hard drive space and 4gb of ram. You are not sure to be able to install and run The Witcher 3 for example.
@@mulatdood I played witcher 3 on my PC from 2013 that got a GPU upgrade in 2016.
PC gaming is cheaper on the long run and better quality (performance, graphics, usabillity etc).
Console may be lower priced but for multiplayer games you’re paying a subscription on a monthly basis.
Days of reselling games will be over in five years or less. Retail stores like Best Buy are eliminating physical media.
I gave XSX a try 2021-2024. Got a new PC recently to replace it. Honestly, if you're not a PC nerd, a console is a non-brainer. But I have that enthusiast bug and it won't ever leave. I just like top of the line tech when it comes to gaming, but I don't need it. Most people don't need it.
I'd still argue to get a PC even if you aren't a PC nerd. Most people already know how to use a PC, and PC doesn't require a subscription to play games online.
@KevDawg1992 the vast majority of people wa t sonething thats going to work out of the box a custom.oc isnt guareenteed to do that. That something pc cant seem to grasp.😊
@@digizilla164 buy a pre build if you really do not want to build your own. If you're close enough to one, go to Micro Center. The whole "the vast majority want something that works out of the box" argument doesn't really hold true nowadays. There's also the fact that there are far more PC gamers than console gamers combined.
Biggest part of consoles is they're convenient. That's it.
Yes, PCs are better, but so what?
Jay is right.
Once you build your first pc.
There's no going back.
I have built so many pc's
For myself for my friends and family.
And i'm thinking about building a new one again😅
But I also own consoles.
I have a PS4, xbox one x and xbox series x.
another big point to point out is this: if you took a picture of me on my pc, it is me in my bedroom with the door shut, lights off at my computer desk with some headphones on. me on console is me in the livingroom on the couch, and i will say "zup" to you when you pass through :)
For real
I'm 58 and You and Paul were the ones that gave me the knowledge to build my first Gaming PC back in the vanilla WOW days. I've now built 5 with my latest being my first water-cooled system. Thanks.
Hell yeah old man
Honestly, to provide a bit of contrast to this comment section, let me speak as someone who built a $3,500 PC back in 2021 and just bought an Xbox series X for $330 during their winter sale last year. PC setup was over $5,000 if you include the two monitors, desk, and chair. I put a 3080ti and ryzen 7 5900x in my rig. For me personally, I love my gaming PC. But when you can get a console that plays games at 120 fps for $350-$550 it truly does make a PC a very hard sell. The current generation of consoles competes so well with a nice PC for such a fraction of the cost that it’s honestly astounding. Pair it with a a 120-144 refresh rate monitor and you can rarely and barely tell the difference between my pc and the series x. Also, while tinkering is a plus when it’s fun. Having to diagnose and tweak settings to figure out why a game is running like crap on my $3,500 PC is not fun at all. It’s annoying and irritating as hell when I just wanna play the damn game. Not sift through settings menus and check temps etc. I turn on the Xbox, I boot up a game, the game plays perfectly. Every. Single. Time. The consistency of that is truly valuable and I would argue a big con to PC gaming. I love both. But honestly speaking, I’d rather just buy a series x or PS5, pair it with a gaming monitor then get a $300-$400 laptop for work if I were buying again today.
u just sold me. im done with my pc.
I completely agree with you, I didn’t have a PC as expensive as yours, but it was around $1000, so I expected to be able to run all games just fine, I was wrong, I had to tweak the settings to get the games working, at the end I spent more time changing the settings and looking for the issue my pc was having than actually playing games. I also ended up buying an Xbox Series X, I was instantly happy with my decision, never had any problems again. Console is just SO MUCH BETTER in that regard, all you have to do is turn it on and play, you don’t have to change any settings, on 95% of the games you pretty much have a locked 60fps, and 120 in competitive games, which in my opinion is more than enough. My favorite things about consoles are:
-Having no problems when playing games and not having to tweak settings
-Having all your games at one place and not having 10 different launchers like pc does 😂
-Price to performance
I don’t see myself going back to pc in the near future unless both PlayStation and Microsoft mess up hugely on their next consoles.
It's the main argument why I've always been gaming on Console ; "Plug & Play"
On the other hand paying 50€+/yr to just play online is a bummer, to say the least.
@ishou9437 geforce now
@@josef689 What do you think about the Xbox and how much time are you using it already? I'm having an older HP Omen with GTX 1050 and I7 7700HQ with which seems like I can't play any new game :/ So I I'm here becase I tried to build a PC but it's way too damn expensive for someone from Eastern Europe as USD is almost more than our valute so everything cost two friggning times more and I'm seriously thinking of buying an Xbox X but the dude in the video is talking baout how they ain't worth it and that they have soft or hardware problems
You ain't kidding about that PC building itch! Built mine 2 Christmases ago and I still look at stuff daily.
I built 2 iAM4 systems n 2020. I want to build more.
I think this is the perfect example, some people like build more than the games..
*_"and I still look at stuff daily"_*
Daily? You're weird.
@JD99-zj3gq yip obsessed with the build not the actual application
I love my PC, but it’s incredibly hard to get work done on it because I always get distracted, or am tempted to play games, or watch movies instead of doing what I’m supposed to do. So, to solve this issue, I got two different devices that perform their own respective tasks. I got a PS5 console for entertainment for the end of the day and a MacBook air for work (because the Mac can’t really run games or run them well). I find my life being much better and much more organized with everything having their own purposes. The PC is great and can do everything, but it’s too chaotic and does too much for me.
Spot on 100%, especially for people that get overwhelmed and distracted/ ADHD
My current set up is a PC, PS5 and Switch. They all serve their own purpose in the end.
This is the way.
Could you name the game that's better on switch than emulated on PC?
I rest my case.
@armyxveteran Piracy is not the same thing as emulation.
It is not illegal to run games that you own.
@@pondracek its not illegal to emulate yes, but acquiring the roms to play the games through emulation involves either having the equipment to dump physical copies, which most people don't have, or pirating, which is illegal, even if you own a copy and think its your right to have a digital copy, still illegal. Not saying I agree with that, but thats how game companies see it
The only reason I'd want a ps5 having a 4060 ti PC is upgrading my GT7 machine (also known as ps4) for that game only. No thanks.
Im in my 50s now and have been gaming since the 48k ZX spectrum and was building PCs back in the days of Pentium 2, Celerons, 3D FX, Matrox, . going to the faires, buying and trading.. and today.. I own over 700 games across steam, ubi, blizzard, gog, origin.. and my PS5.. i currently run an i7 @ 4.5gb, 16gb, gtx 1080ti... and at this point.. ive had enough of pcs, upgrades, drivers, crashes, sitting fiddling with graphics options, waiting for fixes and patches after paying £70+ for something that might crash or not even work on release day and the insane price of graphics cards.. and because i play C & ARPGs and 3rd person games.... i bought a PS5.. and im loving it.. Everything just works out of the box.. from pre-owned £4 ps4 discs to latest stellar blade.. It just works.. Dont get me wrong... I absolutely love my pc.. and use it for everything, including Diablo, BG3 & all crpgs.. but for general gaming and chill out fun.. Console for me now... Ive been there, done it, built it, broke it and fixed it... but these days @ 53.. I just enjoy games and life..
I got a 2080 in a i7 rig with 32 g Ram and that damn thing struggles to give me 1440p with all settings at high (Not even ultra). The PS5 does 4k without a problem.
I'm playing Diablo 4 in 4k with Ray tracing or 4k with 60 fps no problem, with my PC it's a struggle to even get 1080p without freezing and hanging.
I don't know what Sony is doing but it's freaking magic.
@@Justmeandmy20centsps5 does not do 4k native. Maybe 2k upscale. Maybe. You can do that on pc genius
@Justmeandmy20cents the magic is literally just upscaling. You aren't getting true 4k. Id rather play native 2k on pc
@@Justmeandmy20cents my point exactly friend.. you just get so fed up of tweaking and fiddling with the pc and in-game settings, a PS5 or Series X is a dream come true.. and the damn cost.. a 4090 is over $/£1000.. and thats on ebay, yet a PS5 is just $/£450 New.. its a no brainer imo
Well said. Respect. I game on console for the simplicity. That has value.
I'm a German car mechanic and PC building is right up my alley. I find PC building therapeutic and fun
Not just a car mechanic guys, a GERMAN car mechanic
You know what is even betteer than that, that feeling of when you undervolt your pc parts but still get the same performance, lower power draw and a cooler system. I undervolted my RTX 3050 8GB and it went from 105w-120w of power to 75w-85w and it performs the same as defualt and my temps barely exceed 60C. That is what makes pc fun.
let's point out that people from germany still watching these channels
not like a flachpfeife
I speak German, yet I am not from Germany. where am I from? Unnecessary question, but I love messing with people. 😂
@armyxveteran No, they don't. German cars are known, across Europe as quite unreliable and have been that way for several years now. It's a major reason why car brands such as Kia and Hyundai are so popular, because they are reliable and offer upto 7 years free warranty included, in the sale of the car, which will also be much cheaper than most german cars to purchase.
Also the drivers of German cars, for some reason tend to be to worst drivers on the roads, arrogant, speeders, with no regard for other road users. Just watch any dashcam videos about poor driving in European countries, particularly the UK and the most common examples of poor driving are from german car drivers. It's even noticeable in some US dashcam videos. Not that, that, is the fault of the germans who produced them but German cars seem to bring the worst out of people.
Console and PC are totally different mindsets. Most people I play with on console just want a box that plays the game, They dont want to have to adjust settings and theyre happy to take sony/Microsoft advertising about 4k at face value.
In my experience brand loyalty is a huge part if it, they get upset when you meet their shilling for a giving cobsole with the objective fact that a mid range PC performs far better, but they dont care about fidelity of frame rates and theres nothing wrong with that
this! everyone thinks better stats = better choice but theres more to it than that and people give a shit about different things. i personally want a Play Station and my ps5 does that just fine and i don't Ever have to read an email on that thing ever
I’ve never seen a console gamer get upset at the fact you can make a better build with pc. Why make made up battles
If they don’t care about graphics fidelity and frame rate, then they should get a Nintendo switch instead.
Lmfao then they are losers. They are like apple fan girls bitching about their product
@@debomb721 you underestimate brand loyalties, I have quite literally had a console player get upset with me on cross play when I pointed out his Xbox is not rendering warzone in 4K at 120fps.
They're not upset that a much more expensive PC can outperform a console, they're upset that they believed Sony and Microsoft's deceptive marketing
I have a pretty busy life, so ive always loved just coming home, hanging with the fam and turning on the tv and ps5 and playing for an hour then shutting it off and not having to constantly adjust or upgrade.
Ive built 2 high end pcs now and cant stand upgrading it to play something. BUT i really enjoy the whole build process, its really fun.
I’m in the same boat
Same here. Sick to death of pc updating and patching. Plus pc cheaters ruin most games.
Was a die hard pc gamer in my teens, but I'm with you guys, I don't feel like tinkering as much anymore, the consoles are easy to just start and play.
Let me enlighten you. Steam deck.. waaaauauuuuu. Let that sink . 😂
Just don't upgrade?
Either way, you'll need to upgrade to whatever the newest console is, eventually.
A deep insight of the current PC Gaming scene for a Monday April 1st.
Was seriously expecting an April Fools video on this topic
@@TsengtheTurk LOL I was quite shocked to read that Nvidia had bought the XBox production rights from Microsoft yesterday, until I saw what day it was.
I was a pc gamer, that switched back to console. Time and money man time and money. 500$ for something that’s going to have a 7ish year life cycle, no different than a lot of pc parts, but it’s one box. I don’t have much time and life has gotten really expensive, I’d rather just push a button and play when I can, pc doesn’t always give you that experience.
that’s what i’m thinking, I had to take my pc in for repairs this weekend because my cpu fried, granted that was my fault because I bought the pc last year without knowing anything about them and now I know to prevent it. But without a warranty it would’ve cost me $300 or more, and I just think to myself if it’s even worth it anymore
@@Zurosake how did u fry it? i remember having a pc since 12 years old and never in my life faced that
@@user-ux3jp9oo7r Ive owned my pc almost a year and up until recently I realized I had to set fan curves to keep my system cooled down, and for the longest time I never got my drivers.
I'm doing the same, but I do have a decent PC. I have a large 360 and decent OG Xbox catalog, so I really enjoy my Series X. If only Xenia and Xemu were as good as the Series X.
Holy lies, consoles are not cheaper end the end you will spend more money and pc has longer life
My top 5 reasons for console over pc:
1. Directly focus on game, no need for configuration, tweating, controller setup... just start a game and have fun.
2. Couch play, tv hookup easy
3. Low cost as compared to pc
4. Even in perfect settings on pc, i had really bad experience of game crashes constantly. Bcoz where i live, everything is pirated from windows to softwares, no laws stopping them. So when gaming on a pc which is loaded with pirated windows, and softwares, anything can go wrong.
5. After every few years, newer games tend to be more demanding in pc and the same pc which was built using 2000$ and was able to play latest game on ultra, now struggle on medium. So constant upgrade is frustrating. Busy person, busy life, just get only a day or two in a week, so dont want to waste that on configuring things rather than actually playing game.
PC, plugs into TV as easily as console, click the game, runs straight away like console but better, over the duration of console lifespan the PC works out cheaper if you include games and online sub and when it comes to games becoming demanding, console lowers settings to maintain performance same as PC but with PC we can upgrade as and when we want, heck, I am running latest games in ultra and still perform better than consoles and my PC is 3 years old.
How do so many people struggle with simple logic? Why would you need to upgrade to keep up with the even older hardware in consoles? You people need to wear a helmet in public I swear
@@Farscape_247on pc just click on the game and play ? 😂 what a lie
Windows updates , stupid errors sometimes , bad optimizations , a new game release ( where I can find it in the 300000 launchers)
Video games are best optimised on consoles because is the same hardware everywhere.
I had a pc with r5 3600 16gb rtx2070s and still choose playin on my ps4slim or series s
@@mord7072 yeah ok, i have both consoles and they flat out suck, constantly crashing, save file corruption, constant updates and inferior graphics. more choice on pc, better pricing and way more game genres to choose from. And no i don't deal with windows updates, when they arrive they install without me even noticing and finalise when i choose to restart or shutdown the pc.
Psst, I can also keep playing when Xbox live goes down which is quite often.
This might be the dumbest thing Ive ever read.
Just to add "one more little thing" to the PC side ... What about the INFINITE amount of GAMES that ARE NOT on PS nor XBOX ? ... Yep, I think that's a real PLUS on the PC side. Thanks
Yep, also you can emulate older consoles on your PC so you have a huge library of games out there.
Honestly, you don't have the time to play all the interesting games out there anyway, so I think the point is kinda moot. Gaming is one of my primary hobbies, but it still takes me months to finish a single game.
On top of that, dont have to pay an online subscription just to play
this. There are entire genres that did not make it to the console space or are severely behind their PC counterpart. Factory games, grand strategies, tycoons, etc. Also so many awesome indies on PC and on top of that - game moding!
Why not own both...
42 Life long PC gamer, built half a dozen PCs in my life, just recently made the switch to console. I'm just over the price of GPUs anymore when I can be all in for $500 or less and every new game is optimized for consoles it is a no brainer. So many new releases run like garbage on PC at release even if you have a good rig, it takes months for patches and optimization on PC..plus I'm old and have less time to game lol
Yeah.. very true about GPU prices. They are a total joke.
You can build a rig way fucking stronger than a console for cheaper with a used gpu and cpu
@@Renegades103 lol used
there's an entire world of indie games on PC you know. You don't have to play the latest AAA studio garbage
@Renegades103 so why not buy 2 used consoles for the price of one
You know, years ago, I started watching your channel because I wanted to build a PC for gaming. I'm doing things I never thought I'd be doing. It really is an experience in itself.
I went from Playstation to X box and now a pc with a RTX 4080, with a 57in ultrawide monitor. I would never go back to console.
How much was the GPU?
I got gpu for 500
I’m slowly making that same journey you’re on now. I’m currently on Xbox. The only thing keeping be back are the exclusives (one day gta 6), and cross platform on certain games
Your ex-girlfriend says 'Hi'
Your gpu alone costs as much as the ps5 lmao. PC is better if you have the money but nothing beats the console in terms of value
jay letting his daughter just come build a pc at work for fun is such a cool dad move!
So great to hear he supported her ambition & creativity
@@JrockProject1 Name one AAA game. I need a PC to play
@@Rye-t2r idk fortnite
@@JrockProject1 and this is PC gamers. In a nutshell, thank you for proving my point
@@Rye-t2r bro u hopped on a 3mo ol comment just to complain go get some help
I own a computer and both consoles. And I have to say computers have benefits but price is out of control.
The price of pc gaming just isnt worth it like it was 20 years ago.
Very much true. The fact that a console killer PC price during the ps3/xbox360 & ps4/xbox x/s era was with new parts versus now which requires used pricing is depressing.
I can remember when a decent mid level PC cost LESS than an X-Box or PlayStation. The late 2000s and early 2010's was the golden age for PC gaming entry.
If you're on a budget when it comes to PC, you kind of have to think out of the box, I went on AliExpress, and got a somewhat oddball Chinese Erying MATX Mobo with an included a Intel Core I9 12900H( yes it's originally a laptop chip but it's 14 cores/20 threads with a 5Ghz turbo boost) that cost me less buying a mobo, and CPU separate close to the specs.
Also the used market, or if you're willing to get your hands dirty, and have access to the e-waste bin at your local recycle drop off, you can sometimes find some decent gear that with some basic upgrades can still game, and do daily PC task.
I literally just built my 5 year old nephew a basic gaming PC for Minecraft(Classic Cube on Linux so no MS account needed) out of an HP e-waste system with an Intel Core i7-2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB SSD, and an old AMD R7 350 2GB GPU I had in the parts bin doing nothing, so for his age and the basic game he plays it does fine on a 1080p 75hz monitor, even if I have to drop it down to 720p in game, as he's happy as can be.
@@digizilla164 Until you play Dragon's Dogma 2 on PC with 100 FPS vs the slideshow experience by comparison on console, then you realize as an adult you don't have to put up with that nonsense.
Why pick sides, just pick what works best for you and is what you want.
People have money limits and enjoy batting for teams. Why do aliens in human skin seem to not understand people like competition?
The problem is consoles have far less games than PC
true.
if you mostly just wanna play games that are also on consoles.. just get a console.
If you like playing games that are exclusive on PC. or you also do other stuff like Photo/video editing which require a strong PC. just stick with PC.
PC has all the sides so no need to pick.
Honestly though, PC defiantly has its perks with more game variety, but can also do a lot of things a Console can’t. But if you Lena casual gamer consoles are still goated. For 500$ you can play games and have fun. I swapped to PC just becuase console game variety was mid for the last couple years.
Forgot to mention that for every 1 or 2 games that come out on console, there is about 15 that come out on PC. And a large amount of games on PC can be modded and tweeked into anything you want.
Yeah but most people don't even use PCs anymore, so building a whole PC that cost 3x what a console does makes no sense for those people.
AND they're usually cheaper via steam sales, key sites etc.
AWESOME.... NAME 1 SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT having over 120FPS
@@solosuck You can think that all you want but it's not true. Mobile destroyed the PC market which is why every company that makes PCs (think Dell) is a complete piece of crap when they used to be the tech giants.
PC Master Race.....
Heres why
-No Extra Cost for playing online
-Games on Console all cost 10 bugs more than Pc Games
-Mouse and Keyboard and Controller support
-Steam( Sales make up for the Money you payed more on your Pc over the Console)
-120-240 FPS
-And all the pros Jay Mentioned
So its pretty save to say PC is actually Cheaper than Consoles
i swear it's only the pc players that keep saying that consoles are dying. pc players are getting on us console gamers mothafuqin nerves bruh when they keep saying them lies also going on about ""pc is better this, pc graphics better that, pc frame rates better this, pc mouse/keyboard better that, pc master race destroys all console peasants, pc will put consoles out of existence, pc is more affordable, blah blah blah"" & us young people (console players) are all getting sick of it. us console gamers don't care if pc is better because consoles are doing just fine. i mean look at Japanese PlayStation & Nintendo of how great they are selling = consoles they are doing just fine and more fun to play on especially with having a far way better more friendly online community & fanbase with also being far less toxic in online play than pc any day. seems to me like pc players wants consoles to die off badly so that pc can be the only gaming platform left
@@1moblin2I think Nintendo is really the only “great” company left. They really are the only company left with exclusives since all ps and Xbox exclusives are going to pc. I think ps will be for the casual gamer, pc for the hardcore, and Nintendo for everyone. Xbox isn’t really in the console market like that anymore.
@@Jonfgc naw bruh your wrong nintendo is not the only good company because Sony is a great company too with their amazing PlayStation consoles, controllers, & portable handhelds while having many several hundreds stacked on hundreds of amazing Japanese/Asian hardcore games that everyone would like especially us minority people who tends to like Sony more. it's not only about nintendo. also i don't care about american xbox because their consoles & their games are pure boring out of this world to me which are most 98% boring american/western games & nothing else. then you have nintendo always sueing people over fan made games, emulators, & stuff so no they are not the only great company left
That is NOT always true.
$600 for a PC is a FAR better deal than $1K IMO. I will NEVER spend THAT kind of money just for 300 FPS. EVER.
now when everything becomes digital you would think the price of games would go down a bit since they dont need to spend money on discs but no the greedy companies just want more money 😭
That was what they said about outsourcing, said about digital music, then streaming services.... It is a lie
I've stopped buying AAA releases until they go on sale. The indie scene is way better value now
In reality they did go down as we're paying the same we did for games 30 + years ago and just recently with PS5 have we seen the 69 dollar price tag. the only reason we weren't paying 70 a game 10 years ago was because of it going digital.
@@dozilla77 lol, going digital has nothing to do with it as everything that's digital hasn't made things cheaper. It's more actually unless you get a sale or go to a third party place.
@@dozilla77Funny I remember buying Doom 2 on super Nintendo back when it came out for 70$, it was one of the most expensive games at the time. THe difference is we no longer need the catridges which were what made them so expensive. CDs and the like should have made it cheaper since they costed pennies each to produce and going digital costs them virtually nothing and even physical copies could just be cards like the Switch and only cost 20$ per unit and be bloated uncompressed files.
One thing I always tell people when they ask me about getting a PC is that yes, the price to enter is high but games are so often on sale that you end up saving so much money in the long run.
🙂 you get a free game every week at epic, next game is Outer Worlds and Thief
@@MrSamadolfo gamepass cost 10 bucks a month and comes with tripple a games on both systems.
PC where cheap 6 years ago that's absolutely not the case today.
Plus there are so many indie games that you just don't have access to on a console. It's well worth getting a budget PC just to have access to those.
having a PC is only expensive if you get all brand-new cutting edge parts. that's why PC building got stupid. people like jay keep telling you to upgrade to keep themselves relevant.
Another thing that can save you money on PC is not having to pay extra for online connectivity.
I think the experience of playing on a console with a very restricted UI vs a custom PC with all the bells and whistles + modding support + ad blockers etc makes the argument a lot harder and it depends on if you're simply a "gamer" or a "PC enthusiast"
This🎯now what about laptops lol
@@jamerv777smerflaptops are basically the same but with limited upgrade capabilities and shorter lifespans.
Also no mandatory subscription to play online.
@@kurgan1291 lol now this is an underrated 1
@admontblanc heard. Lol but I'd argue TF outta that shorter life span point. Maybe in terms of like performance but there's things to improve depending on your use and how you take care of it externally. For example my first laptop I still have its Toshiba Satellite 15in quad core amd 8 vision radeon 32gig ram with a recently installed 512 SSD replacing the HDD. Not as powerful as my omen but good as new. Been having it since 2013. Omen since 2020
Jay you started me on my journey when you first started, and I've been building my own custom rigs eversince. Just finished a custom build for my old boss ready for Christmas. Thank you for your channel thank you for inspiring me
One thing I love about PC is that the longer you have it the more money you save. No Xbox Live/PS Plus subscription, every game you buy will be in your steam library forever and almost always remains compatible with new PC hardware, and lets not forget about Steam sales.
exactly.. mine is 18 years old.. 1300 games.. all the AAAs I ever wanted. For this reason, I bought a 4090 and a 83" LG OLED with 120hz gsync............ fkn amazing experience
I have Xbox series x I don’t play online games I like campaign games buy the game on disc then sell it after completing so don’t cost me much for games
U buy games lmao
@@mar1134 That's the craziest thing to me about most PC gamers. Like, why would you suck at the teat of a website like Steam or Epic or install a GD "launcher" to play games? Windows _is_ a launcher and the _seven seas_ have all the "sales" you could ever want. Only limit is storage space and hardware that can play the games.
"Don't hook it up to a TV"... Here I am sitting on a OLED 4k LG C2. Unless I want more than 120Hz or I'm just plan stupid and screen burn it I'M NEVER GOING BACK
Same
You’re having a better experience than most. Enjoy it my friend!
Same. Haven't used a monitor in years and my games look sick on my HDR 4k, especially if you have a powerful enough PC to run DLAA. It's damn near perfection 👍
We all game on 42in LG C2s as well. I will go back to a monitor eventually as I came from a Samsung Odyssey G9. After going OLED, I can never go back to anything else but I do miss ultraiwde/super ultrawide gaming and now they have pretty decent UW monitors that are not small. LG actually has a 42 inch ultrawide OLED out now but the C2 has been life changing. That was my first taste of OLED!
@@andrewsolis2988 you do know you can set up your lg oled to game using ultrawide res right ? i know its not quite the same, as your have black borders, still cool thou.
The PS5's audio tech is incredible. The controller and it's haptic feedback and adaptive triggers is amazing and brings more immersion to games (I'm aware that it's also available on PC for PS games that later came to PC). Also, PS5's HDR settings is really well done, unlike windows hdr which is complete crap. I'm a PC gamer and I also enjoy my PS5 for its exclusives.
This is very true, as a PC gamer and also a PS5 gamer there's a lot of one sided viewpoints here, to be expected on a PC channel. A lot of people are saying the games are stupidly expensive, but if you get PS+ there's almost no reason to be a single game... you get many hundreds of games, with dozens that are AAA quality and many are first party Sony titles as well! You can totally get away without buying a single game for the PS5
Wait, PS5 has exclusives?
@@mrlightwriterWhen will Gran Turismo 7 make its way into PC…just like the Horizon Forbidden West?
I usually play on xbox controller because I always had an xbox before I got into PC gaming. I just got one of the dualsense controllers and it's a great controller.
Hopefully it last longer than xbox controllers have been since the new controller model that launched with the series X I'm doing good to get over 3 months out of one before stick drift or broken button
@@unknownunknowns Everything is possible...you're telling me you know in advance those games will never have a pc version?
I ve been a console user for almost 25 yerars till I both my first PC for work, cost me only 500 GBP but it was a console killer in terms how games were looking like, 1.5 years later with a help of your channel and content available I builded my own rig and I know I will never comeback to console again,
I remember building my first PC with my dad when it was i386 processors… I knew from that point on what I wanted to do in life. Fast forward what 30+ years and I’m a Director of IT that always said I don’t want to touch computers when I get home from work (was consoles only from Xbox 360-PS5). I started getting into your channel last year as well as GN and Der8auer… Got right back into building computers! It felt so nice working on desktops and not just enterprise level crap… I really appreciate everything you do for this community and 100% it can help guide people into a lifelong career!
I'm impressed. My first 'build' PC was a 486-66, and that was VERY early on in the PC building days.
@@kwbarron I was a very young kid… I just stood there and touched things while my dad put it all together from a local shop. He was an electrician and into that as well :) my first personal custom pc was much like yourself; a i486 tower. I believe I still have my 3dfx box that we put in that!
@@dbrown23 I remember the 4MB 3dfx add on card from back in the 90's. That was a real powerhouse back in the day. I had one of those in my Pentium 200 with (maybe) 16MB RAM. An absolute blast to build and play on.
If all I was doing was gaming, sure Id go with a console. PC just has way more things to do and easier.
Helldivers being a PlayStation/Pc only is just so nice
And you can't do your taxes on a console.
I'll add to this and say. There's no fee for being able to play with your friends on pc like you don't have to pay a subscription to Xbox live or PlayStation Network
Thats what most people dont get, they only think of gaming while forgetting the million other things you can do
I still would pick a PC even if just gaming, you still have more options available from games to mods and all that, like even something as simple as making a old game feel new with shader mods that you wouldn't be able to do with a console.
Literally recommended a customer of mine to your channel, this is honestly the perfect answer for every question he asked me. Hopefully he tunes in.
Built my first computer 25 years ago, but didn't build a second one until 2018.
Now I have built around 20 and some really high spec with water-cooling, one of cases and even furniture builds.
Let me save you 20 minutes. It’s not time to ditch the pc.
Ever.
😂😂😂 thank u but pc will be forever ❤
Is the steam deck any good?
I'll embrace PC gaming the day physical games are no longer avaliable. It's the only reason I'm sticking to consoles.
Best reason not to ditch the PC? Squadron 42 coming this year, or 2025.
I moved from console to PC in late 2015. Bought a Costco HP tower with a 6700 and put a 970 and PSU in it. The itch started. Realized I wanted a full custom PC so I restored the HP back to stock, returned it, and built one myself. The itch grew. Built a friend a photo editing PC that can play games. That turned into a few more friends wanting me to build them one. Nine years and at least two dozen builds later, PC building is a passion of mine. And Jay's channel is, in part, to thank for that.
Passion for gaming?
@@secularspectator That's probably a part of it, I became even more interested in gaming after learning how to build PCs. I can mod the games, I can mess with settings in those games, I can have a higher FOV, I can crank the settings to max or set them to the lowest settings for a huge fps gain and I can even max out my monitor's refresh rate at 165 hz by doing that and the games feel so much better and more responsive to play
This console generation has a serious lack of games. I definitely play my PC way more than my PS5
The one thing you did not mention when considering price is over the life of a console, if you want to play online, you will spend another $500+ just for the "privilege" of online gaming. That is a major cost that many people seem to gloss over. PC gaming has been 100% free to play online for decades, and most likely will remain for decades to come. Two generations for consoles will have bled you around $1k JUST to play online, plus that much more for the last 2 generations of console. (ps4, ps5, xbox one, series x/s)
Yes as upthereuc mentioned "price of the services" over time AND I might add the price of games that generally are higher on consoles.
That's a good point. With pc, its just the cost of your internet provider
Which is doubly funny because the services they provide are just hosting the download servers for the games, all the "online" game play is locally hosted on the console.
Yup, I facepalm so hard when console gamers say PC gaming is too expensive. Like brother, I spent $700 on my PC in 2018, it still runs AAA games at 60fps in 2024 lol console gaming is way more expensive. $500 game box + $360 worth of Xbox Live and you’re already paying significantly more than me. Plus the games they buy are pretty much always full price.
@@charlesbrown4483 Console games go on sale just like Steam. I think more are offered on the console side actually, as I can't even remember the last time I bought a game for full price on console. You give it a month, and it starts going down. Same thing on PC. For people that have both, they really aren't all that different aside from a yearly cost to play competively.
I have a good gaming PC and a PS5 and i found that, if you turn off all the "optimizations" ( vrr, 120hz, hdr, etc ) it feels just like a pc regarding latency ( on controller ) and it's quite a good gaming experience with excellent graphics. Having said that......a PC is a PC....much higher frame rates, tweaks, mods, etc and you're not confined to that particular platform. So, in the end....PC is the way to go.
Some things that weren't mentioned:
- modding on PC is quite big
- on consoles, you have to pay extra for basic stuff like playing online or backing up your saves
also, internet/multiplayer is free on pc.
Not to Mention that some Mods for example Skyrim/Minecraft, actually cost money on Console while being free on PC and in most cases even look better.
Also I feel like the games last longer and are actually around to build communities. I’m still playing arma 3 today and that game is over 13 years old.
Even if consoles can close the performance gap with PC, there’s still too many other perks to using a PC.
1. Mods
2. Steam Sales (cheaper games)
3. Free Online Service
4. Emulators
5. Much broader library of games.
6. All the other functions/programs that PC can utilize that can’t be done in console.
Since building my first PC about 2 years ago, I have convinced three of my friends to make the switch from console and helped them build their PC’s. Addicting hobby for sure!
I converted my room mate to PC and he only plays Warzone. I was playing in tournaments with him.
Your prefered controller and reWASD lets me play nearly any game on my HTPC
17 seconds in and I've already had a good chuckle "whether or not you should just say screw it with PC, and get a console *dramatic music*" straight into the sponsored segment about a gaming PC
So glad I wasn't the only one to notice this irony lol
I have an ad blocker so I didn't had to see the sponsor ad... 😝
Yup, same thought 😂
As much as I hate to admit it, PC ports of modern games have been so terrible lately that the appeal of something that mostly "just works" is much more grounded now.
Also the fact that you have some graphics options and customizability in the newer consoles helps
why i still use windows... but even then "it just works" isn't really holding that true anymore... so many annoyances. and bad directions.
PC ports of console games have gotten better, in the past they didnt even change the menus for mouse input
oh don't worry, those ports also run like garbage on consoles.... developers suddenly forgot the word optimization exists apparently
Guess I'll just leave this giant pile of uncompressed assets over here :^)@@jesusbarrera6916
I’ve always played consoles. I want to try a pc but I have no idea where to start. It seems a bit of a minefield to me and have no idea what I should prioritise.
Reviews first and foremost. If you're planning on buying a prebuilt, look on RUclips to see if anyone's reviewed it and go from there.
Figure out your wants, expectations, and budget. What games are you planning on playing? Do you want to run games on medium settings or maxed? Lots of games don't require 4090's to play on max settings, a 3060/3070 might do you just fine. Do you care about a flashy case with lots of rgb fans, or are you okay with a cheap plain case?
Take your time, do your research, watch videos, and don't rush. Think it over for a bit before pulling the trigger.
Jus start off with a gaming laptop or even better now a steam deck to start off wit
It's wild that now at the age of 30 I can remember a time when literally NOBODY gave 2 shits about PC stuff. When I was in highschool not that long ago, we had MAYBE 6 of us that were into PC hardware and what not. Now a days everyone is into this, which is pretty damn cool. From taking apart my moms Dell apart in 2001 to where things are now, what a fun journey. Also, if you are into PC stuff and you are broke, just find shitty old PCs people/schools/businesses are throwing away and just tear them apart, swap parts from other machines play around with stuff. So much fun. PC building is just the best
😄 most of the sellers on craigslist are crazy what they are asking for their used PCs
I always had a PC and consoles both. When I was a kid, it was TI99/4A - a console and PC in one. Then it was Sega Master System and Genesis with a 386/DX and a Pentium... in the 6th generation, I didn't have a PC because so much good stuff was on consoles. Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2, NGC... truly a golden age. Now... there's just nothing. Just get a PC and maybe a Switch if you like the portability (and don't want a Steam Deck), and you're covered for pretty much everything worth playing.
I'm 43, and I remember a lot of PC only games through the 90s.
@@TheZoenGaming AOL MultiPlayer Battletech Solaris was the SHIT in the 90s... god i miss those days
@@JohnnyxRogain One Must Fall.
I became a software engineer out of a passion for building my gaming PC back when I was 10. My mom always motivated that because she knew it could lead to a career. We didn't have money to purchase parts, so I started fixing PCs to make my builds, and one thing led to another. I also know people who have been in a similar situation.
I often talk to parents who are afraid of the PC hobby, and I always tell them to direct their kids. Of course, as anything, it can become a bad thing. But if a kid is properly directed, a silly hobby can expand a myriad of career possibilities a few years later.
The possibilities a PC brings, the curiosity it attracts, and the problem-solving skills you have to develop, are things that cannot be neglected. On the other hand, a console is obviously just a console.
Anyways, I haven't played a single game for years now, but I still have a custom PC and refuse to work on laptops. I guess the passion is still there.
Edit: your channel has a great part on that. So thank you!
@12:00 It does become addictive. I built my first PC last year and had an instant itch to do another one right away; Luckily my wife wanted her own PC as well after seeing mine which I built for her about a week later and much more efficiently lol.
When I play CoD on console I always feel a slight lag in my play and when playing against other players who have gaming PCs they always seem to have a slight advantage regardless of their actual game play. Are my observations valid?
"Don't hook up your PC to a TV" - and here's me with a 42" LG C3 that is a superior display to any monitor I've previously owned and costs less. Unless you play competitive esports and/or FPS games you don't need a 240Hz + monitor.
I also don't understand this quote!
I think it depends on your setup no? If I had a PC in my living room I'd for sure get a TV like that for it, but for at my desk anything more than like 27-32" is waaaayyy too big imo
Lol. I am also on a LG OLED. I switched from an Asus Proart 4K monitor which cost a shitload of money. And the LG is just perfect. Especially for gaming. But also streaming. Mounted it to my wall directly behind my desk. It’s just great.
But I like my 65 inch LG OLED. I ain't gonna go back to a small monitor, I'm too old and the eyes are getting weaker.
Same here man. I just pulled the trigger on a 55 inch C3 and oh my God it is so nice! Screw these monitors that are double the price.
People always forget about the subscription to play online for console. Over a 5 year period, $60/year, can take your $500 to $800. Then all your games are on Xbox, you find out your friends are on PS, or vice versa, can't play with your friends etc.
this is true to a point but at least with Xbox all those games and contacts are also available to you on PC, also over that 5 year period you get access to 100+ games, that evolves over the time period, including new AAA releases, to play as much as you like, on both your Xbox and your PC pretty seamlessly, A year of all that for less than the cost of 1 of those AAA games. your additional cost point is muddied by the fact that it would cost more to buy 1x AAA game ($70-80) a year,
1 game! Xbox subscription automatically gives you access to 100+ games including AAA games for less than 1 game a year, and again, Xbox access available on PC also.
@TPBOOMER69 What if I have no interest in playing the games that my Microsoft corporate overlords decide that I get to play for free alongside my arbitrary and unnecessary payment to unlock the privilege of playing games on the console online? After I already paid the extortionate price for the console and the games that I actually want to play?
If you think "free" games somehow justify you spending money on a subscription just to use the product that you already paid for then I hate to break it to you but those games weren't free. Especially when you consider that if you don't pay for your subscription next month then you lose access to them entirely, congratulations you just paid for nothing.
@@VikingKong. then you buy that title along side, but if you cant find a game in an ever changing library of 100+ games then the subscription is not for you, and well yes if you stop paying for access to the library, there not going to keep letting you use it are they lol, but also on that note, you can renew anytime, & as soon as you pay get instant access to them all again. and I'm guessing your still buying all your games physically, because if not those digital copies are only good as long as the service you purchased them through continues support for them lol, so if they give up on that games support, congratulations, you just paid for nothing! lol
you say extortionate price for the console but its pretty wide spread information that Sony & Microsoft both don't really make a profit on the hardware, they keep the price viable to get people on the platform, both sides make their money in subscriptions and game sales.
@@TriPBOOMER I do think that Game Pass is definitely worth it for having access to games to play. Mostly for story based games which might not have replayability its wonderful. That doesn't block off the fact you HAVE to pay for a subscription service to play online with consoles at all. For PC the subscriptions are an optional bonus, for consoles its a necessity that shouldn't be there. The point of the excess cost still exists and with PS+ costing $80/yr and Game Pass Core costing $120/yr and Ultimate, the console version of standard PC Game Pass, being $200/yr (according to Microsoft's own website on a monthly subscription) you're looking at $560-$1400 over the course of a console lifetime as a REQUIRED cost to simply play online. Also Game Pass Core, the cheaper $10/mo option, only has access to 25 games and not the hundreds of GP Ultimate, which if you want cross-platform access on pc, is required.
THAT SUBSCRIPTION COMES WITH AROUND 40+ GAMES A YEAR AND SUPERIOR ONLINE. 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly I don't care what platform some one plays on nowadays as long they enjoy the games they play
Ya, but once the ps5 exclusives get announced, prepare for some rage 😅
@@hvyarms4496 I don't get angry at all to be honest. there are still plenty of games to play regardless of platform
@@hvyarms4496 Except you can play Ps5 exclusives now on PC.
but for these games
Demon's Souls
Returnal
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Astro's Playroom
Destruction AllStars
Sackboy: A Big Adventure
Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Gran Turismo 7 (upcoming)
while we have many great games you can't play on PC. That have way bigger play bases and more loyal. lol
I mean they even make some games saying the consoles can't handle them because they are to big and require to much.
I have a Series X and Ps5 Pro, and for me it's just ease of access and comfortability using the console. I was kinda pressured to try pc by family and it was a nice Asus laptop with a i9 and a 3070ti but I honestly just hated it. It was so much more complicated to use and to get the system configured. It was also difficult with updates, figuring out resolution, and figuring out controllers. Also hated keyboard controls and found steam really clunky compared to xbox live or psn
They did not say they are getting away from hardware. Sara Bond made a public announcement about this not too long ago.
People be misinformed or just spreading misinformation. They are definitely not going away from hardware.
Not to mention ,people really forget about the series x playing any generation of xbox on physical is really cool
"Dont hook it up to a tv!" But my C3 is 65". Even the Samsung Odyssey Ark is only 55.
I also don't understand this quote!
haha I just made the same comment for my C2
I play all consoles on my PC.
ps3 is the most current console you can emulate, and that has a ton of issues
@@Phone_Stevey Most current console you can emulate is the switch. Wii U and PS3 works really well I find.
@@tdmdchannel2339 oh right the switch does work really well. I was thinking PlayStation and Xbox though.
@@Phone_Stevey PSemuX is an open source PS5 Emulator for Windows, Mac, iOS & Android. Free to Download for anyone.😉
@@Phone_Steveyanything after ps3 is considered current gen as companies are still making new games for ps4/ps5. And a pc can play all of them and Xbox titles, Plus we can emulate switch games even if it’s only 30 or 60 fps, so really it’s all consoles
Huge advantage to consoles. The vast majority of the games are on the media, do not require the internet to install or play and cannot be blocked from playing.
Edit, apparently he thinks theres no passion for console.... this is just wrong
I’ve built many computers for myself and for others and I love it each time!
I don’t go as custom as you with the water cooling etc but I really enjoy it!
Never going to console, why would I give up all the freedom a PC offers for crappy emulators and locked in hardware...
Yeah, why give up cheating, everything is easier 😎
@@LV_daWEEDlmao jealous much?
@@mandavaler no not really
I would choose a PC over a console because:
1. It offers a much better gaming experience, whether I use a controller or a mouse and keyboard.
2. The image quality on gaming monitors and TVs is superior.
3. I can perform all my work tasks on it.
4. It operates extremely quietly during gaming sessions.
5. I can upgrade it incrementally as needed.
On the other hand, I can see how a console might be better because:
1. It's very compact and user-friendly.
2. It's cost-effective (I won't need to upgrade it six times a year).
3. It's much easier to use as a party entertainment system, with support for 4-6 player games that are easier to find and play.
4. It's more convenient to transport during work travel (though I wouldn't do so).
5. I can use its controllers with my existing gaming PC.
Six times a year that is cute. I haven't upgraded in almost 10 years.. I probably haven't bought any new games in 10 years either
my currentr computer i've had since 2018 i've got one set of upgrades 1 time in 2022 that's like 4 years after building it so what are you talking about upgrading ti 6 times in one year.... it's 2024 not 1994
1. Depends on the PC you have.
2. This makes no sense
3. What if you just want to play games
4. Both consoles are quieter than most pcs
5. You just buy a new console when needed at 500 bucks is half the price of one single gpu upgrade
If you need to upgrade 6 times in a year, you're pretty much just building a new system, and at that point it probably means you've made a bad initial decision on the original PC in the first place, whether that's building a super imbalanced one or buying a bad pre-built. PC is really the cost effective platform if you save up and pay the higher upfront cost for it. Not having to pay to play online, getting more and better sales on PC and not having to buy new $60+ controllers every couple of years will over time cost just about as much as you'd be paying for a console, and then having to do all of those things on console will just equal out over time all while you don't get to choose what settings, resolutions and frame rates you want to play at.
@elusive4072 But that's an upgrade too! :D I've upgraded fans, thermal paste, GPU fix, even cables, etc etc..
you forgot the con for consoles that you have to have a subscription to play most titles online
i got bit by the bug back in 2016 with pc gaming while in the military. after i got out i got more into computer and how they work. started watching you and linus and now i have a whole new career in IT and plan to be a project manager one day.
Wishing you the best ♥️🙏🏻
PC = Multitasking... second and + Monitors... Cheaper games... can run other Programms like PS LR .... Mods for Games... special interest games like simulations. And the most important thing is, if a Game runs not smooth u can change settings till it runs smooth
🙂 plus the huge library of abandoneware and setting sail for other games that have been delisted
@@MrSamadolfo"abandonware" what Epic Games did to Unreal is criminal, how the heck they killed Unreal Tournament 4 for the sake of Fortnite?...
Yeah like all the new PC games run like butter...oh wait stuttering
I think the biggest factor is budget- to have a pc that plays games at level of a series x and ps5 you’d be paying the price of both consoles if not more. Anyway, just get all three it'll solve the problem of deciding
No you've got that wrong, i play Ps5 and Pc myself, mainly PS5 i built my wife a Pc 2 months ago for a little under 900 euro's.
She plays GTA 5 with me looking better than the Ps5 version i can tell you that. Pc just has way better on shadows and draw distance.
lol the PS5 has a gpu with the same power as a 2070 and a sieris x is equal to a 2080 super so no your only looking at about 200 more if that
What hit me is your comments about the PC bug or making a career change.
Thats what happened to me. I made the switch from console to PC back in the HD3870 era and all I wanted to do was build computers.
I made a career change from working for steam fitters to building computers.
Since then I worked my way up from building computers in the training and simulation space to now I am a program manager for a large technology company.
Youre right you hardly ever hear of anyone making a life choice like this with consoles.
The easy answer is both. There are some games I just want to lay on the couch in my living room and play on my 75" TV and relax. Then there are certain games I wouldn't even want to play on console.
😄 i have a PC in every room in my house
Just hook the PC up to the TV and a controller hooked up to the PC. There's even an official Xbox wireless adapter for PC.
@@KevDawg1992 because you have your gaming PC in the middle of the living room....
@@jesusbarrera6916I use the steam link app on my TV. Turn on my wireless controller and bam. No need to move the PC....
@@KevDawg1992 this is just a trash why of playing games , you can do that for a time but not for years and that's what makes console so good for couch gaming.
The only passion I can think of for consoles would be retro/old consoles
Ever heard of emulators? You can play any game known to man on PC.
@@BeyondReasonableClout
Can you play Rise of the Ronin? No? Didn't think so. Stop making incorrect statements.
@@Patrick-y4d1z bro calm down, nearly any system can be emulated. Jeeze
@@BeyondReasonableClout
Not quite.
We can emulate up to the PS3 gen.
PS4 is only just starting up emulation, PS5 not at all.
XB1 and Series X haven't started emulation at all.
@@Patrick-y4d1z you're right. Ya happy? Feel good?
1. Upgradability;
2.Choice of OS;
3.Doing anything else besides gaming and entertainment;
4.Way more choice of peripherals which can be used;
5.Tinkering with it.
There you go. In favor of PC, obviously.
Don’t forget emulators. It’s awesome being able to play GameCube games like Mario Party online with friends or play old SNES or PS2 games.
@@firestorm4477 I own a lot of old games like for example Syphon Filter on the PS1, you can't play it on a PS4 even if you still have the disc, but they will still generously sell it to you again.
And that is the story of how I got into PC emulation. I still have the Syphon Filter disc and multiple copies of the iso I ripped from it on several emulation consoles.
1. Missing the point completely...
@@anderssorenson9998 yeah, even if they resell the old games it’s still not worth it because you can always have a better experience emulating it with upscaling, custom higher res textures, QoL patches, and the ability to use any controller in existence.
Moddability. Also, when a part breaks down, you don't lose the entire machine.
I'm 62 , been building computer since windows 3.1 ... And my last gaming PC I built 9 years with windows 7 , still runs today ... Looking at jumping over to console system....
As a kid I loved consoles and when the Iphone came out, I loved jailbreaking and fixing other peoples busted jailbroken Ipods. I always told myself I would never be smart enough to be a computer engineer, but after watching tech channels like yours, I realized my passion for computers and have been pursuing a career in Computer Science ever since
I emulate 27 consoles, have over 30 controllers, can play 30+ years worth of pc games from drm free services like GoG, and get cheap or free games on steam and epic games. I can go virtual reality, desktop, laptop, or handheld form factors. Uh… why would I ever buy a console again?
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ding ding this! not to mention you can build a PC for the same price of a console lmao
dont forget that a cool looking pc will get you laid cause girls get really impressed with the flashy lights
I'm a mechanical engineer, so I switch between AutoCAD, Steam, Gamepass, Netflix, and VR...can't do that on a console...
My reason as well. Console's just for entertainment, just that. PC can do a lot more, games go on sale a lot. Consoles can't run exe files, you can't develop applications there and emulators doesn't work.
@@ynsignia Almost true except on Xbox if you pay the nominal fee for the development kit or similar, you can emulate on it. Unless they removed it.
Anything work related probably not.
I have a mechanical engineering bachelor's degree and an electrical engineering master's degree. I work as a computer engineer, doing both computer hardware and software development. I also do that stuff as a hobby.
Thats why I have both PC and console. Can game on the main monitor with my console and run whatever I want on my PC without having to worry about resource contention issues or constantly having to alt-tab out of my game just to click something on my second monitor.
When you use your PC for a lot of things outside of gaming it is a pain in the ass to also try to game on it.
On auto stand, expand storage on any console that matters people put SSB in their PS4 all the time replacing the hard drive in there with a much larger ssd which improve both the performance and the storage space
I'm slowly moving over to console, simply because I'm getting older and appreciate laying back on my sofa more. Yet I suck at console and the experience isn't even a fraction of my (now also aging) GTX1080 rig.
I don't know how people can play a video game with the tv screen so far away. I bought a standing table for my living room so I can sit rite up to the tv 😊
@@MrSamadolfoI don’t know how people can play on a tv. 😊
Great monitors cost 150$ for console and good ones for 100.
as you get older and your eyesight fades you will need to get a pc to get 400 fps on games at 12k soo i say stick with PC's. it will also keep you on sharp as you age cause of all the troubleshooting and tinkering
@@weroliera i dont get how people play on 24 or 32 inch lol i need at least a 48 inch screen to feel immerse hahaha
you can also use your pc on the tv with a controller
Building a PC is like building a fast car or restoring one. It's not just playing games or using a PC. It's a whole learning experience with endless paths to go down.
I had a boss 25 years ago make the same observation when he overheard me talking about a PC I was building. I pointed out that being a shade tree mechanic wasn't really possible once everything was tied to computer software in the car. I rebuilt a Chrysler slant 6 in the late 80's, but that wasn't happening with anything in the 90's.
For me building a pc is about spending four times the price of console for worse performance. That’s how it has been for the past two generations for me.
A gaming pc is only good for running past gen games. Because it will run them at high and stable frame rate. Forget doing that with current gen games.
Maybe I just want to plays games...not build a car.
I think I built a PC in the gold days: in 2017
It still holds up to this day. It does not run games in max, but it runs most of recent games with no issues.
I spent 1000$ or so back then
mine want even run windows 11 built it in 2016 it has a rtx570 ryzen 5 it could run SWbattlefront 2 at max but not now whent back to console
What's with putting the dollar sign on the wrong side of the number?
@@dfxjedi There is no right side of the number. It varies by region and language. After always makes more sense anyways, it's not Dollars 1000 its 1000 Dollars.
Funny enough the last golden year for building PCs was last year haha
2017 for me as well. PUBG had me in a hypnotic episode. I enjoyed building my PC skill much. About 2k with a 7700k and a OC 1080. Was just running Spiderman at 70-80 fps on max settings. I'm sitting here every day thinking about a PS5. The comfort, matchmaking and exclusives is calling me. Grew up on Xbox and with Halo and Gears gone I just don't see a reason. PC will always be there for upgrades as well.
I have both PC and PS5. I see the pros and cons to both. However, saying that a con a console is it breaking is a touch unfair. PC’s have many parts by both expensive, cheap and in between manufacturers with just has many issue if not more ranging across them all. They can both break. I’ve had more issues with a PC part going bad than a console having its “red ring of death”
I’d choose PC over console for the wealth and breadth of games from 30 years ago to now.
They’re basically all playable, even if you have to jump through some hoops.
Also, they can be enhanced either with Nvidia control panel or with mods.
I love to be able to customise, even down to the thumb screws I use.
The faster FPS is a big one for me, playing games at 144hz is MUCH smoother than 60hz!
Yes.
why would I want to play games from 30 years ago lmao
@@TheAbandonedAccount7because some of those games are incredible and haven’t been remade or remastered.