Which Are The BEST GameCube Joy-Cons For Switch?
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Let's compare the DOYOKY & NYXI GameCube Joy-Cons for the Nintendo Switch!
The NYXI Wizard is no longer the only mass produced GameCube style Joy-Cons available for the Nintendo Switch, DOYOKY have just released their "retro controller Joy-Cons" too. We've got dedicated videos on both, if you want to see more. So, which are the best GameCube Joy-Cons for Switch? Let's find out!
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0:00 Intro - The NYXI Wizard & DOYOKY GameCube JoyCons
0:23 Design & Overview
1:57 Specifications
2:35 Triggers & Bumpers
3:03 D-Pad Comparison
3:47 Joysticks - ALPS Vs Hall Effect/Drift/Deadzone
5:15 Joysticks - Customisable Gates & Grips
8:59 Face Button Comparison & Sound Test
10:18 Analogue Triggers? Bad Luck Emulators
10:39 Turbo (What Is It & How To Use It)
11:34 Back Paddle Comparison (Macro VS Button Reassign)
13:53 Rumble
14:14 Handheld Mode Comparison (You Won't Believe This)
16:23 Pricing Comparison
16:45 The Verdict - The Winner Is... 
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I watched this video to help me with my purchase.
I was almost going to go for the Nyxi Wizard Joycons, but this video helped me decide on the Doyoky Joycons. Plus they updated them with Hall effect joysticks. I got the Silver one. May get the other colors too later down the line. Would love an orange one.
Hey I was thinking about buying the Doyoky too but I heard about some connections issue. Just wondering if you have had any issues with it.
Why can't I just have the original style analog triggers back already!?!?! I get that the switch doesn't use analog, but I don't only want these for my switch 😂.
I liked the comparison. Seeing the doyoky on the switch looks nice! And points for the clicks. The joystick just seems outdated but could be nostalgic for others. I never touched the original controller so hopefully my NYXI wizard will feel comfortable. Thanks for the review.
You're right, nostalgia plays a huge factor here, though I prefer the NYXI Wizard and still think it could use a bit more weight to make it feel more like the original GC controller.
Wow, great video! I couldn’t wait so I ordered both. Hopefully they come in this week and check out which one I prefer.
It's worth supporting them both, honestly. Good ideas should be supported. Give both companies your feedback.
@@CarrotsNotCakefacts. Competition will only make both products better
@@Pumpkinhead2400 That's the idea, unfortunately I'm not seeing any improvements from Nyxi. One thing that a lot of people want that would be super easy for Nyxi to do is to send small stick caps with each pair. The bigger thing that they need to fix is the feel and function of the face buttons. They are on their second or third batch, but they have not fixed the face buttons. Doyoky, on the other hand, is responding to feedback. People want Hall effect sticks, so they released their Doyoky Retro GameCube JoyCons with hall effect sticks.
If doyoky made one with Hall effect sticks and a purple centerpiece, it would be perfect
Spoiler Alert, They actually did 😂 They are releasing the Hall Effect version on August, and they already got the purple center piece if you order now!
Just bought the Doyoky. Thanks for the review!!
You're welcome! Hope you like it
Hey I was thinking about buying the Doyoky too but I heard about some connections issue. Just wondering if you have had any issues with it.
@@trollersupreme4316 No issues yet.
So great i needed this!
I’ve been waiting for this video before I made my purchase. Was leaning more toward the Doyoky one since I heard they reached out to shank mods for opinion and feedback, so makes me glad that they may have implemented some of his suggestions and came out with a better product because of them. Great vid, definitely earned a sub
Thank you! The NYXI does have better sticks and supposedly has addressed the mushy face buttons but the profile and feel of the DOYOKY is great
Doyoky didn't take all of his suggestions. I find that mad odd. Nyxi's does have better handles, which is a rather major thing. In my comparison, Doyoky comes out far ahead. I have hopes for Nyxi revising theirs, though!
@@CarrotsNotCake I found that odd too, could possibly be a event of higher ups thinking they know better then those who understand the products. Though I think they took just enough to give the slight edge. Here hoping that these comparisons helps both companies grow.
@@jackbuerer I think the edge is rather vast rather than slight. The face buttons are so much better, as are the triggers. Having a small C stick right out the gate is a big deal. It's more authentically GameCube.
For sure. I've been reaching out to Hyperkin, PowerA, PDP, Hori, Sunwaytek (high quality controllers) suggesting that they should get in on this GameCube nostalgia. If Switch does end up having GameCube Online, whichever company has the best GameCube JoyCons is going to make bank.
@@128KBdo either of them have joystick buttons because I want to play Luigi's mansion 3 with them and I need to press the joystick for the move set
Thank you for the video
Thank you for your video !!!!❤
NYXI has improved the Wizard from their first release. Dpad has proper pivot now and face buttons feel better. The sticks are more precise too. *Edit- Right stick is snapping to cardinal directions and dpad gets a bit tiring to use with the mechanical switches they chose to use. Left stick is good. (I would have preferred to have a perfect right stick for aiming because left stick usually doesn’t need that type of precision.)
I don’t recommend getting a Wizard anymore.
I wasn't aware of that, I'll have to check out the new ones that I have. I still prefer the slimmer profile of the DOYOKY though 😬
@@128KB I think I would much prefer the slimmer design myself
According to who? The only two videos I've found mention that the buttons feel the same
@@JuanRodriguezNushio according to me.. I have a set from the first wave and it had issues so they sent me a second pair and both sides are improved. Check out his updated video
@@No1Noz the Wizard sticks are not flawless though. they have large deadzones making them useless for Smash bros or any game you really care about having good responsive movement in. If you're a casual player just dinking around in single player games, then sure, they should be okay for you.
I like the nyxi personally. I have large hands, so they fit me better than smaller controllers. As long as you're able to use something that is comfortable, i think that's fantastic. Enjoy!
I ordered my Nyxi wizard on the 12th of May, received them somewhere in June (I live in Europe). ZR button does not click anymore when pressed. I am an avid smash player but always very careful with my hardware. On top of that I had not played that much yet (it was maybe my 10th session). My gamecube controllers lasted me 19 years now. I am writing NYXI to see what can be done, but they offer only a 30 day warranty...
I've read many comments regarding issues with the shoulder and trigger buttons on Nyxi's. I don't think Doyoky's hold up to legit competitive Smash, but they're definitely better quality. 150 hours in with Doyoky's without a single issue.
The DOYOKI now has the magnetic joysticks if you get the black version of it
Yep, we've got a sample on the way
This button layout makes 💯 more sense than the "updated" layout. It's based on how they are used in game play and not just symmetry for looks
Yes. The conventional button layout is not an improvement.
I just bought a NYXI controller. Then i see this vid in my recommended and i'm like oh hell no... Did jump the gun?! Thank goodness i got what i did. The NYXI controller has the things that i both wanted and needed. So i'm happy or at least content.
20 work days to get here tho... lol
The NYXI controller is excellent but spoiler... the DOYOKY will have hall effect sticks soon, they just told me :O
@@128KB Is it coming out anytime soon?
@@vladimirfranciscodiaz3688 This month... hopefully.
@@128KBthey gonna fix that busted ass c stick nipple
Hey I was thinking about buying the Doyoky too but I heard about some connections issue. Just wondering if you have had any issues with it.
I just got the Doyoky myself
Aside from the buttons and dpad being better. The weight itself is something I didn't expect to like over the Wizard.
It being lighter makes it much more suitable for portable play.
This comparison should be the number one video to show to people aiming for gamecube joycons.
You and I might be the only ones that don't mind that, and even prefer it. People always complain about light controllers.
@@CarrotsNotCake going back to the nyxi wizard, i just realized how much I overlooked the weight in portable play
doyoky really is the way to go
@@adamalarcon4973 Overall, for sure. I do prefer Nyxi's handles, though.
Been thinking about getting the dokyoky just didn’t know if it was reliable and responsive and only looked like a GameCube controller
@@flightkidd123 my advice for you is to wait for the updated Doyoky gamecube joycons.
they're planning on making a version with hall effect joysticks so hold off on buying them for now.
Actually the thumbsticks on the Wizard are my biggest problem with it. Either there is some kind of significant deadzone on mine, or it’s just plain slow, but either way my character movements in Smash Bros are just not cutting it with the wizard. Got me wondering if I just got a defective one because everyone is saying these Hall effect sticks are spose to be amazing? Well my son & my nephew both liked it enough that I ordered two more for them, so I’ll be able to test those out to see if the thumb sticks are still trash. I also have one of the doyoky’s on the way and I have a feeling that one will be the one I like more.
Any update on which controller you like better ?
I'm with @ShiningSHORYUKEN Got an update?
@@CarrotsNotCake @ShiningSHORYUKEN Yes, turns out all the NYXI's have the crap large deadzone so they are simply useless for me for Smash. the Doyoky doesn't have the deadzone problem, so the thumbsticks are better in that regard (being more responsive). however, we know the doyoky will eventually develop drift, and not only that, but the replaceable thumb caps EASILY snap off when i'm playing a match really intensely. Like i will go to jam my C stick quickly to catch someone with a Tilt attack and the yellow nub will just go flying off the stick. So i literally had to super glue the caps i wanted to use on permanently. lol. the ABXY face buttons on both controllers i can perform about the same with. they're not as good as OEM GC face buttons of course, but they're better than other cheap 3rd party GC controllers I've used before. So for now, i do prefer the Doyoky. once the left thumbstick inevitably develops drift, i will swap the left joycon side out for a real joycon i've fixed the drift on and just use the doyoky's right Con for any Smash bros portable gaming i do.
@@Sickentist Lovely. heh.
If Doyoky used modules as good as GameCubes, they'll last for a looooooooong time. Eventually could be decades away. Doyoky has their hall effect model out now. I'd link it, but my comments with links usually get deleted. It's showcased on the homepage of their website.
Yo, easily on yours? Mine is on so tight. I put the small cap on the left side for kicks, and it took a lot of force to get it off. If yours pops off again, compare it with the grey one. I wonder if there's a manufacturing defect on the yellow one, or maybe on the joystick module's column.
ABXY on Nyxi... I just can't. The height difference is too much. On Doyoky's, they're so close. Not like OEM GameCube, like you said, but good enough for sure.
That gonna look goofy, but it will work.
For the back paddles, can both controllers have any button assigned to both left and right back paddle buttons. Or only the left can have buttons assigned to the left, and right assigned to the right only?
@@brentleycourtney while technically true, you can get a little crafty with the switch button remap software to program the back buttons however you want
As a standalone controller, I dig how THICCCC the NYXI is; I could damn well have gotten a wireless Gamecube controller from PowerA, which would have been the same size and shape as the wired GC controller, but I wanted a NS version of my homie's Wavebird.
Just because of the magnetic sticks the nixy are better to me, antidrift is the biggest reason to buy unofficial joycons, id buy both anyways xd
How does it feel to use the Nyxi on the left side for a better stick and the other ones right side for better buttons?
Love how other reviewers mention the bottom buttons are flush so you don't accidentally press them
Cool.
Talking about the macro button mapping on the NYXI:
Mine didn't arrive so I can't check yet whether it's true, but apparently mapping a single button is also possible.
I found a message on reddit stating this:
"The manual isn't really clear but you can actually map the macro button to a single button map and not a macro sequence, to do it you have to press profile, then while HOLDING the button you want to map, press profile again. This is the only way to get the back button to single map without a lag to it that comes when you program a sequence"
Can someone verify if this message is correct?
I just had to try this after reading your comment, because I do not feel like using Macros on any game at all, and to my surprise it does work pretty good as a button remap.
@@jetman4521 I see, thanks for telling me! :D
I think you just sold me Doyoky ones (have one of their old Binbok joy cons) my only question is can you remap buttons in the Switch itself as sometimes Gamecube button layout doesnt suit a Switch game but i want to be able to swap say Y with B in the Switch's button remapping
Yep. Remappable.
Do you think the sticks from this controller will fit my switch pro remote? I'm looking for the C-stick feel for smash.
Can the assignable buttons assign the joystick press buttons normally found in the joycons? like the L3/R3 buttons on ps4
I really like these types of videos, they help me a lot to decide what to buy. I look forward to purchasing an IINE controller zelda edition, it would be awesome if you could check it out.
I think that that controller is very... copycat. Basically, if you like the Switch Pro controller, you'll like that one.
You can buy the NYXI Wizard with a charging port in the connector
You can now, yes, we have a video about it!
Just ordered a Doyoky. They have Hall effect now.
Would you be able to tell me if I can use the doyoky charging bridge for the nyxi hyperion?
They've just released a HALL sensor revision with a matching colour centre rail too, unsure if the button height was improved.
No no. Nyxi is the one with the trash buttons. Doyoky's button height is nearly perfect to OEM GameCube, and now they have the Hall sticks.
@@CarrotsNotCake that's great to hear!
Yep, we'll be getting a sample very soon!
Bought the doyoky ones, 3 weeks ago, in France. They feel great when working, but they keep randomly disconnect every few minutes. Apparently it is a common issue on reddit. Customer service doesn't answer emails. It seems they don't care much about their market outside USA..
As much as I want one of these, both seem to have too many "third party controller" isms for me to bite. We need an OEM version of these. maybe on switch 2?
My RZ is jumpy on Metroid. I can't scan things. How do I fix this?
the DOYOKY comes with hall effect joysticks now!!!
Doyoky! Doyoky! Doyoky!
Hey mate what wrist watch are you wearing in this video?
I hope we get one thats just a pro controller cut inhalf with no extra back button crap
the wizard lasted me about two weeks and then it stopped working for handheld mode nyxi doesn’t really put quality in their controllers
Doyoky actually are releasing the Hall Effect version on August, and they already got the purple center piece if you order now!
Any update???
Is it coming out soon?
I’ve asked the same thing, they haven’t updated me yet except that they will be releasing this at the end of this month or early next.
@@eseich perfect. Thanks
DAMN I ALREADY ORDERED THE OTHER ONE T_T
Watching this video made me realise I want a third option lol
Wavebird cut in half lmao
I just don't get why these have to be joycons. I think they'd be much better as a solid controller and then they could get rid of that awkward middle piece that makes the controller too wide
I've used the NYXI exclusively since March, mine did somehow get stick drift on the left. I'd have to recalibrate like once per hour of gaming and then the left one just stopped working
Once per... hour? Damn.
@@CarrotsNotCake Yeah, it makes it almost unusable
@@Jake-uf4cp Get in touch with Nyxi. They better replace that. I'm confident that they do not have any quality checking on these controllers. Out of probably a hundred and fifty comments that I've read from people that own these controllers, I've seen at least fifty complaining about issues. That's an incredibly high percentage.
@@CarrotsNotCake I contacted them, they said I needed proof, I sent whatever I could, then heard nothing from them
mine also started to malfunction. the stick. what's the point if it doesn't drift if it crashes before it does.
I want to buy a Hyperion and I would like to buy some thumb grips for it but I don't know what the size of the sticks are. Are they like an xbox controller, Playstation or Nintendo Pro controller?
PlayStation
Will you be doing a review on the Nitro Deck when it's out?
The Nitro Deck is barely any more ergonomic than the official Nintendo Joycons. I think you would be much better off and you would pay a lot less for the DOYOKY Wired RGB Joycon Controller for Switch.
@@SunDownSamurai I'm not interested in non hall effect sticks tbh. I like the no deadzones and the reassurance for no drift
So now Doyoky has a Hall Effect version of their controller? What's the comparison now?
Video coming soon. Spoiler, nothing changes, I prefer the Doyoky personally.
we understood you liked more the doyoky one
Watched both of your Individual videos on both DOYOKI and the NYXI! Great reviews on both! Edit: just watch THIS shootout video and I agree with your assessment.
Great video here and would be invaluable if I were having to choose between the two. Right now I’m playing my Switch OLED with the NYXI Hyperion Light controller and will be sticking with it. Glad to be a 128KB subscriber!
NYXI quality control is absolutely awful, 3d printed parts on the inside, mine arrived with broken buttons and throws out random inputs and disconnects. Its awful. Get Doyoky or wait for a better one.
I think doyoky is a brand owned by binbonk. The main makers os the alternatives joy cons..
That's correct, Doyoky is the main company and BinBok and even NYXI get their joycons made from them.
I want to like the Doyoky but my god the black middle piece looks so awful. Why isn’t it purple?!
It's purple now, and black on the upcoming black Hall effect model.
Does either the doyoky or the wizard have HD ruble or the're both traditional?
neither have HD rumble :(
Neither. Both old school.
Question dose anyone have problems with any of those controllers drifting im asking cuse im planning on getting on i have joycons that drift
The NYXI can't drift, it's got hall effect joysticks
There’s now an easy joycon drift fix involving a thick piece of paper/paper card. RUclips it!
I've read dozens of comments regarding quality issues on Nyxi's, but only two on Doyoky's, and it was fixed in both cases, as I recall.
Listen, the Doyoky being so thin the rails are going to bust. Trust me. It’s nice it’s thinner but it’s fragile
Is it possible to use those controllers with the switch lite?
It is
You’re just completely downing the wizard controller first you said that you didn’t like how they had clicky controls and you prefer the mushy ones and now you’re saying that you prefer the mushy controls instead of the clicky ones make up your mind stop bashing things be honest
You said the same thing twice
I like the fatter wizard, better to grip. The thin one feels so cheap. I dgaf how it looks flush
Oh you've tested both?
There is absolutely no more mush in the revised Wizard…
Awesome, I've just got the new colourways of the Wizard, I'll have to compare them with my original one!
@@128KB that’s cool. I’m looking forward to a video. I think they deserve a new review by somebody (hopefully you) that points out the improvements they made, because they really did listen to the community. I had some issues with my order from the first wave so I was sent a replacement. I was blown away by how much better the face buttons feel. The dpad also has a proper pivot now, so all directions can’t be pressed at once. Thanks for the response. Love your videos.
Is it me or the only thing hori has is that Nintendo approve them
Pretty much
I mean, yeah. Better stick modules, I imagine.
1:40 LOOK AT THE GURTH ON THAT
Hahaha I know right
I would prefer the DOYOKY, but why bother if its gonna drift in less than a year? I dont need to be buying a new pair every year lol
Yeah I get you, they'd be epic with hall effect but there's nothing to say they will drift in a year. Some controllers with potentiometers last decades
If their joysticks are as quality as GameCube's, they'll last for at least as long as GameCube's have. 22 years in, I have perfect GameCube controllers. No input issues, no drift. Quality potentiometers last for a looooong time.
@@128KB Exactly! I dig Hall effect, but this outright anti-potentiometer sentiment is unfounded.
bro, have u review "Omelet Switch Pro+ Joy-Pad Wireless Controller" seems like one of the good choice for pad pro replacement
In 2024 the doyoky is cheaper then normal joycons
loon at the girth on that thing
128kb 2023
😂😂😂
I just hope Doyoky releases the hall effect version of this controller anytime soon, because I've been having a lot of issues placing my order on the Nyxi website, and the Nyxi GC controllers do not appear on amazon or elsewhere, as far as I know...
Should be this month. Maybe next. Sooner than later, hopefully.
I imagine you've seen, but they are out!
@@CarrotsNotCake yes! I'm just waiting until they release the case for the controller, they said it is coming out near the end of the month, so it should be close by. Thanks!
Review was 1 ago, dude. What kind of nonsense did you say about ZL and ZR? Super Smash Bros. for Wii U - release date: 11/28/2014.
And this is the first one with support for the GameCube controller. True, this is not the original, but Nintendo made a 100% copy.
No idea what you're talking about 🙃
@@128KB What I'm saying is that at least the last two games in the Super Smash Bros. series. (for Wii U and Ultimate) have a GameCube controller, when it comes to the fact that ZL + ZR on Joy-cons does not feel the same as L and R on the GameCube controller.
Are the Z button hinges? That's the thing I hate most about OG gcc's because my hands is large and my finger naturally rests on the hinge and most of the time I don't end up hitting it
Do either of these have amiibo support?
There's no NFC support, sorry.
This review is heavily biased in favor of the doyoky. Who TF sugar coats not have hall sensors 😂😅😅😂
There's no bias here just my opinion on what I prefer. Also, the DOYOKY DOES have hall effect sensors now, video will be soon.
I have twenty year old potentiometer sticks that work perfectly after over a thousand hours. Potentiometer sticks can be very high quality, or they can be the low quality junk that seems to be common in first party controllers these days. Hall sticks can be junk, too, as has been seen with the sticks in Nyxi's having issues at an alarming rate.
@@128KB I think the only thing that changed is the sticks. I'm hoping that they use Hall triggers in a future revision. They are a very good imitation of GameCube's analog.
Sigh. If only doyoky had hall effect….. because they got the buttons right. And nyxi has the hall effect, but not the buttons….
Doyoky will be releasing Hall effect versions. They're doing quality control on their first batch of them right now, ensuring that they get to customers in working order. Unlike some companies.
Don't fat shame the Wizard.
I like some weight to my controller
Add weights! Take off the back shell, hot glue 'em where you want 'em, and there you go.
@@CarrotsNotCake that’s a lot of extra steps when I could just have a controller that fills the hand without needing me to physically mod it
@@Numatruehome It's really not, but alright.
@@CarrotsNotCake I mean why would I do that when one of them has all of that, and the superior longer lasting joysticks
Wow no hall effect sensors for that price? HARD PASS!
They're releasing a hall effect version soon.
Doyoky loses for that god awful C stick design.
if it aint Thicc it aint shit 🤣🤣🤣 NYXI FTW
Nyxi all the way😁
That’s right
These types of videos are really toxic on actual facts. Promoting products they have never tested for themselves. Reminds me of politicians.
Lol whut, look at the channel and you'll find my reviews of each product. I've tested these products showing both pros and cons. These aren't sponsored or paid either.
@@128KB "whut" You trying to make a dime like everyone else I get. I could care less sponsored or not. The agenda is the same on these pathetic alternatives and misleading the audience like Nancy Pelosi. People catch on. Stop pretending. You are not the only one.