HOW STRONG IS MR SATAN?
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To be fair, Mr.Satan is the only one to fight both Cell and Buu, and not die
Gohan never died
Agreed and both fearless on the occasions. Videl does matter to him.
Not die? He beat them both!
But Buu never blew up the earth. That was just a cheap parlor trick
@@ishowspeedplug2845No he didn’t he was the one who convinced the people of earth for the energy. This man IS THE REASON BUU DIED, and porunga
So he is Super Dave Osbourn of the cartoon world 😅
My thoughts on Satan's strength has always been:
During the first Tenkaichi Budokai of Dragon Ball, he would have been a strong contestant. He could have given Nam or King Chappa a good fight - he's probably on par with them, but Muten Roshi would have wiped the floor with him. He would have put up a solid fight against Krillin, Yamcha, and Goku but ultimately lose against any one of them.
How would videl fare against original dragon ball characters? You should make a video on that
Hercule would stomp raditz
If you're going to compare his feats to actual people, Hercule would be one of the strongest. His strength would be comparable to Mark Henry.
Even beyond that. No real person can pull three buses and punch a hole through one. Or chop through 14 concrete blocks.
@@blaketindle4703 I wonder what the record for chopping ceramic blocks actually is.
I love how Piccolo was disappointed Mr Satan survived.. 90s' Piccolo was a savage.
😂
Watching all the original Z movies and I'm digging every Piccolo save
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Mr. Satan has that one skill from JRPGs "Survive any melee attack (with 1 HP left) while HP is above 50%."
Oh my God, they should give him a health gate like that in the new game. It would be such a perfect gimmick.
True.
Specially considering that he never suffers "debilitating" injuries from ANY attack (only pain).
. The "Hit Point" bar acts the same way a passive Ki Barrier does (protecting both clothes & skin).
. Perhaps he always had a variant of "Divine Ki" that could not be sensed by anyone (not even him), that protected him from any lasting/mortal damage from non-mundane sources [since a bullet did put his life at risk].
-> My headcanon is that his dead wife Miguel (Videl´s mom) was an actual reincarnation of the biblical Angel [in the Dragon Ball mythos, beings with a literal "non-quantifiable" strength/power], who managed to "shield" him from the other world.
Or Sturdy skill in Pokemon if I still remember
How strong is Mr. Satan?
-He has more plot armor than the Suicide Squad in their recent video game
-His skills of swaying the public in his favor make Donald Trump jealous
-His sheer luck outweighs even Batman's prep-time tactics
Dude might not have the highest power level in the DB universe, but he somehow comes out on top in every situation!
Goku was LAUGHING while Mr. Satan was trying to survive against the ultimate evil.
The Champ, is the Champ.
His luck stat is through the roof!
Based on how quickly Videl was able to master flying with ki, I suspect Mr Satan actually has an affinity for ki and a large amount of it for someone who has never trained it, which is probably the real reason he did not get splattered by Cell or Buu. He's not a full on gag manga character, or else he'd body Vegeta like Arale did.
I actually kind of agree, he just never grew up with the correct teachers. I don’t think he’d get to like krillian levels but I could see him comfortably sitting near Yamacha if he had ki training earlier in life.
Bukujutsu is not an advanced technique of any sort to require special talent to learn, and neither does it require large amounts of ki.
If Mr. Satan had Dragon Ball Super's scaling, he'd one shot Cell by the ToP.
By GT logic he should. The fact he didn’t die from Omega Shenron hitting him With Mr Satans own Dynamite kick.
Strong enough to pull a bus.
4 actually and then he punched right through one but got his hand stuck in the process
Strong enough to gaslight the entire human race to collectively forget hundreds of years of history.
@@digitaladventurer2142 a school bus is 10-12 tons depending on size. That’s still pulling 40 tons
Sad to say physical strength means nothing as Goku's first World Tournament opponent was a massive body builder the kind that could do that same feat and Goku tapped the back of his leg with enough force to cause a ring out.
Kid Goku would’ve pulled the same four buses with a finger…..without breaking a sweat 😂😂😂
He's a gag character, so his feats are not supposed to be measurable, and are also inconsistent. Goku could tank gunshots since chapter 1 😂
In a Q&A, Toriyama is asked how strong Mister Satan is, and he answers that "I think he's pretty strong. But...I get the feeling he's not quite as strong as Bob Sapp (laughs)"
I just looked up the strongest punch ever registered and it was Francis Ngannou with 129 units, I couldnt find out what those units are or how to convert them into lbs or kgs but assuming Mr. Satan's machine uses the same type of measurement 137 is very impressive
stronger than most humans
Chi chi would whoop Satan up and down the ring
I think Mr Satan is a spoof of Hulk Hogan
More like Randy Savage “Macho Man”
Oh! Headcanon theory:
Cell, being partially Goku, has Goku's need for a human buddy, his own Krillin.
He picked Mr. Satan, and was going to keep him around after the Cell Games as his sidekick.
I like Mr. Satan. Sure, he looks weak and cowardly but compared to normal people he's pretty strong and also quite brave. It's just that the main characters of the show are much stronger than him.
if he existed on our universe he would be by far the strongest, fastest, most skilled AND more durable (after all he have taken a lot of beating and survived) person on the planet..
on DB universe he is probably the strongest, fastest, most skilled and more durable if we exclude all the important characters.. he is so celebrated because humanity of DB universe doesn't fully comprehend the scale of power of the important characters
Pre-Cell saga, Mark "Hercule" Satan actually fought Spopovitch, yes, the same man that stomped Videl so brutally after Babidi got his mitts on him, on equal footing and won. So, he at least has some skills and knowledge. However, where he really excels is at sheer heart and brass balls. He stood up to Kid Buu to try and reach Fat Buu because FB is his friend and he knew FB could help. A situation where anyone else would have thrown in the towel, and there he was, still trying his hardest.
I think Satan would have been an ok contestant in the first tournament in the original DragonBall. That's about the level I estimate him being on.
Nah. Lower bud.
@TheRealDyscyples really? You think Ranfan or Bacterian could have beaten Satan? Because their fights sure don't suggest them being anything special.
@@xander.357 Ranfan was able to injure Nam with a kick, a two handed blow to the head and punch to the body. Nam is stronger than pre-21st TB Goku, who is much stronger than Mr. Satan.
As for Bacterian, he was able to injure Kuririn with a kick, and Mr. Satan has nothing that suggests he'd be able to resist his bad smell.
I say the likes of King Chappa from the World Tournament would beat him. If I remember correctly, he won a tournament without any of his opponents managing to land a single hit on him. We know good and well he wouldn't standup to ANY of King Piccolo's children during that arc.
During the 21st World Tournament, he could possibly make it into the Top 8. Let's say he bested Ran-fan or something. However, he isn't competing with post-Roshi training Goku or Krillin.
Not even sure he could best the Ox-King in his initial appearance at Fire Mountain because Kid Goku couldn't even make his budge.
Cell Saga Mr. Satan was no doubt Mark at his peak because dude was slacking as much as Gohan during the time jump to the Buu Saga. He was just lucky non of the Z-Team or any other human of notable strength entered the tournament he won.
Yes Compa won the World tournament either before Roshi did or the tournament before Devilman/Spike who won the tournament right before the series began.
It's always baffled me as to why Mr Satan didn't learn Ki. He obviously knew the existence of ki control when his master was killed by Tao, so when ever faced an opponent that could use it, he would always cower and beg them not to kill him. But to his fortune Tao and other fighter alike had no interest in the world tournament until Cell showed up.
What are the chances Satan was good at instinctually using his ki for defense like Videl does? He seems more powerful than just a strong guy for sure.
Pretty sure its because he became a defeatest after his teacher was killed and vowed never to fight anyone stronger than himself rather than to get better. He has a strong body but a weak mental constitution, which is necessary for controlling ki.
A good fight would be one I think you did a poll of: Goku from episode 1 of Dragon Ball vs Mr Satan from the Cell Games.
Put some respect on the world champions name! He's the one who beat that "Cell" monster, and that pink blob "Mah jen boo"!
The Universe loves Mr. Satan, so keeps him alive.
In a real world consideration, though
+ He has World's Strongest Man competition tier strength
+ Gymnast level agility
+ Can run short distances at Faster Than Eye speeds
+ Is an exceptionally competent martial artist
+ Is AMAZING at P.R.
In something resembling the "Real World" he would absolutely live up to his own hype.
Here early 😊
Back to what I said in the Chi Chi vs Videl video
Chi Chi is relative to Muten Roshi
Videl couldn't beat Namu
Chi Chi casually jumps 100 stories into the air while juggling Goku ( who's not actively trying to hurt her though)
Videl beats the shit out of a punching bag with all her might for a whole session and just tears it.
Mr Satan is relative to Videl
Mr Satan has that Mankind/Cactus Jack/Terry Funk (RIP)/ Kane/Undertaker durability……which means absolutely nothing in the DB universe 😂😂😂
You can't say that Mr Satan doesn't use Ki. Even the farmer HAS ki. Every living creature has it it's just a matter of if they can utilize it effectively.
Yes and utilize is another word for “use.”
I think if he would have entered a tournement in dragonball, he probably would have lost to krillin, but would have been strong enough to make krillin break a sweat. He's probably about as strong as a normal human can get without ki, or cybernetic implants, or other such things.
I do wonder if he where to learn how to use ki though. If he spent a few weeks in the time chamber with gohan, I wonder how strong he could get.
He's not even remotely as strong as you can get without Ki.
We see numerous fighters, including pre-turtle Krillin, do things like fell trees or shatter solid stone with their bare hands. Goku in the 2nd or 3rd episode crushes a boulder with a bear hug and mopped the floor with an entire wolf pack the previous night before knocking a plane out of the sky with a kick.
Any of them would flatten Hercule, and be flattened in turn by people like 21st WMAT Krillin or Nam.
@@matthewbreytenbach4483 I'm not sure that goku and krillin are totally without ki before DragonBall starts. They both did some training prior to being introduced, goku trained with gohan and krillin trained with monks. I'm pretty sure krillin says he shaves his head to help with his ki.
@@smob0
Krillin shaves his head as a sign of his dedication to the martial arts.
Even if you want to say that they already know a bit of Ki control, their level of ability is the norm for elite martial artists of the time. And none of them would last a minute against anyone on Nam or 21st Krillin's level.
stronger than DBS Tien
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I thought about this the other day and id say he'd stay relevant ip until the first world tournament and finishing below Kid Goku, Jackie Chun, Krillin, and Yamcha. Past that he's completely outclassed and couldn't survive Muscle tower or Tao.
He might be able to stand a chance against first chapter Goku and bandit Yamcha. Other than that he is not beating any major character at all.
Note: Mr. Satan has had actual combat experience with Android 18, Perfect Cell, Fat Buu, and Kid Buu.
All of those characters would probably die in those fights, ESPECIALLY Yamcha, who died to a Saibaman.
At the very least, Mr Satan's physical reflexes are at the highest level for a human, reducing lethal damage to less than lethal.
Evidence: He survived Perfect Cell, which he had no prior relationship with, unlike Kid Buu.
@@douglascramer1501 He was almost killed by a bullet and would've been had Buu not healed him, An untrained Kid Goku mostly tanked being shot in head from point blank range. I'm with Mike in that all those battles were played off as comedy and shouldn't taken seriously as feats.
No Sporky. Mr. Satan isn't beating Kid Goku, who was barely hurt when being shot in the face then picked up and threw a car. He also isn't beating Yamcha, who beat the stuffing out of Goku and sent him flying through several menhirs. Or Chichi who decapitated a large therapod dinosaur. Then blew it up with a laser. He might be able to beat up the Pilaf gang, if they don't just shoot him.
Nor is he beating guys like Nam and Giran who gave that same Goku who did all that a rough time. I am not even convinced he could beat the gimmick characters like Bacterian and Ranfan, but given that they lost almost immediately after their foes found ways around their gimmicks I could see that argument.
I could see him beating Pamput from the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, though honestly they are similar characters.
His feats are calculated in the over 100,000 joules range and he has subsonic reactions.
Meaning he blitzes and kills Mike Tyson with one punch
Real life heavyweights were in the 900-1,300 joules punches on average
In other words,he is many times weaker than DC&Marvel Comics "peak humans" who are in the billions of joules and over hypersonic combat speeds
He lived a Cell attack, was fast enough to dodge Kid Buu. And tanked an attack from Omega Shenron
Hercule > DBZ
He'd absolutely destroy any other man on planet earth who isn't named "Yamcha", "Krillin", "Tien"' or "Muten" edit: forgot tao pai pai
I think Mr. Satan's power level could possibly crack the triple digits. If a farmer with a shotgun is level 5, it would be pretty impressive for Mr. Satan to even be 100. It's probably more realistic that he'd be level 50 or less. I think Goku was a kid was 10? It's possible that a full-grown man who's trained his whole life was a whole lot stronger than that.
I'd say superhuman, but not to a supernatural degree. Still weaker than chapter 1 Gokuu. Don't know about raw lifting strength, but definitely slower and less durable, though still insanely durable by human standards.
I mean yeah I agree with your assessment. He’s a gag character, though he’s probably got insane luck and charisma stats if he was an RPG character, lol. However I will say he’s a valid fighter in at least the first Budokai game, since you don’t have to worry about ki management with him. He’s completely physical and is good for keeping your opponent from powering up, which if you let happen can get you wrecked. The androids are better for this though, as you can equip them with an infinite energy generation capsule that gives them access to ki moves with a full ki bar for the entire match, and it’s downside of preventing transformations doesn’t apply to them.
Mr Satan is like a member of a power group back in th '80s and '90s that had feats of ripping a giant telephone book or lifting cars. The thing is if you know a techinic or it weights nothing. Even pulling a bus or three can be easy if it is just a plasitc cover, a plastic frame and some wheels. Same type of thing for 14+1 tiles, make 14 weak and 1 normal.
His strength is in that he lives while getting hit then breaking rocks, beending steel beams (tournment, most likely), and etc...
Goku in Super gets hurt by a bullet. It is either not a great concept for characters power or DB characters are weaker than 99% of shonen jump characters. You do not get to have both.
Commenting seconds into the video to drop the love for Hercule. Dude gets goofed on a lot but frfr he is definitely strong! Would have made a valuable Dragonball fighter and probably even ended up training with the gang if he were introduced earlier. What we see him execute in the Cell saga was the kind of stuff that was no joke.
It begs the question. Why didnt anyone of the same quality to dragon balls fighters appear in future tournaments? They were common enough to have at least 2 or 3 new faces show up for 3 in a row? Im talking non main cast
yajirobe doesn't use ki
Yajirobe doesn’t outwardly use Ki in the obvious way that the other prominent fighters do, but he’s trained alongside them with Kami and was able to perform numerous feats a human couldn’t without the use of Ki.
Yajirobe beat Cymbol though and might put up a good fight against Tamborine. I DO remember Yajirobe being kinda strong in OG dragonball.
When he was fighting goku, he shock mountains by stomping the ground. He was on par with tien and goku when he was first introduced.
You FAILED to fulfill my expectations.
-> I wanted a list of antagonists & villains from the original Dragon Ball that he WOULD be able to defeat (perhaps after a long fight).
. You redeemed yourself with the ASMR "Arnold" at the literal last second.
I think having Kid Buu play around with Satan is a huge mistake. Cell I could see holding back, probably because he didn't think it would take that much to kill him. But the entire point of Kid Buu being "the most dangerous Buu" hinges on him being unpredictable and having no chill. The first thing he does is blow up the earth. The first thing he does is attack. The first thing he does is go for the kill. Which is also why people think it is so impressive when it really isn't.
PS: The proper term is "head benis".
He's at least physically stronger than Dende since Goku chose him to fuse with over Dende because "Dende isn't a warrior".
So was Ox King the strongest non Ki user?…we need a deep dive of Non ki users…
Excluding the z fighters, Hercule is arguably stronger than 90% of the population on earth. Which is why he probably won a world tournament when the z fighters didn’t attend it
If you are winning a world martials arts tournament you are a better fighter than 99.999% of the population, easily. You can probably add a few more 9s
@@DannieRay23I was just being cautious considering a good portion of people in og db could probably beat him
An explanation I did not think I needed until today. I'm in,
Who would win Mr Satan vs Master Roshi's turtle?
In dragonball before it became Z theres an overwhelming amount of characters he couldnt beat. Hercule was just fighting normal humans that didnt possess ki. mercenary tao for example would have wrecked him without even trying. I just find it crazy that after piccolo was defeated hercule never faced any ki users. They wouldnt even have to be a very strong ki user. someone with a mere power level of 20 would still be impossible for him to beat.
Well as my favorite future Boy once said: "You know it's too bad you don't have a Saiyan biology. At this point you'd probably be unstoppable"
That's exactly what goes thru my head when i see what Mark survived
Also His punches made Buu move. It didn't even hurt Buu BUT to make an immortal world destroying bubblegum move is something😅
Truly "I saw this raw strength only once before" moment
He’d beat that random fat buff guy with the mustache who Goku poked out of the ring. That’s pretty much it lol
Human scale: 1-10
1-3 weak normal humans.
4-6 basic human fighters (who Mr. Satan fought in tournaments)
7-10 excellent human fighters (best without ki, no Roshi training)
10+ ki trained/powers
Mr. Satan I'd say is 7 or 8. He can beat anyone rated 1-6 without much difficulty 7 and 8 with some difficulty and 9 with luck, 10 and 10+ he has no chance. Since most fighters would be rated 4-8, Mr. Satan being very strong almost super human based on regular human scale will almost always win martial arts tournaments as long as those 9-10+ fighters stay away lol
Yeah on your scale I’d put Hercule at an 8 and Videl before training with Gohan at a 9.
Wait a minute, when he was actually trying to win tournaments according to the wiki he "easily beat spopovich" in the final round of the 24th tournament, of course we don't really know how strong that version of spopovich would have been.
from what I understand Spopovich was suffering from a stomach virus from food ge ate right before the final round so not even close to 100%
The way the story is written, the strongest version of Buu is Buuhan. There is no debate here, bad translations or adaptations be damned. C'mon now, nowhere else in the anime or Manga is it shown that anyone gains power by losing pieces of themselves. Kid Buu is the most DANGEROUS version because of his reckless aggression. Ik it's the epitome of headcannon but I really don't care because I wouldn't change my mind unless Toryama came out and said otherwise
THIS!!!!^💯
When the series started having characters with power levels in the millions, it also stopped showing lower power humans having insane feats of strength. I don't think it's really fair to compare the power scaling from early Dragon Ball to later. So while he's obviously not going to be jumping hundreds of feet in the air...I'd say that Satan was still probably at about Nam's level.
There's no reason to believe Mr. Satan is at Nam's level. Nam was able to trade blows with Goku during the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, who was much stronger than the Goku who could lift a 1 ton car and crush solid rocks as big as him.
I assume all the real fighters got too scared to enter after King Piccolo killed them all. and then the next tournament Piccolo was back and the arena and surrounding area was destroyed. they just want to win some prize money, not risk their life over the fate of the world.
It wasn't just King Piccolo but during the final World Tournament the number of fights is I think half of the 137 fighters from the first World Tournament and they point out it was more likely do to the Z Fighters always showing up and cleaning house.
Strong enough to beat everybody in the comment section
I mean he is legit. but this makes me question why king champa just stopped showing up to tournaments
Mr Satan vs Max for the BMF title, lets go.
Did the fighters in the main cast use ki to strengthen themselves up until the very first tenkaichi budokai in the story? Outside of using the kamehamaha.
I don’t think it is mentioned… please correct me if I’m wrong
So while it's not mentioned specifically I don't see how they aren't as after Goku and Krillin's first fights they realize they have to suppress their strength because they could actually knock guys through walls, what Yamcha does with his Wolf Fang Fist I would imagine being along a burst in ki energy, even other attacks that Roshi does in the tournament.
@@donovanbradford8231 definitely! I just find it funny that Toriyama never mentioned it… like was it not a concept he wanted to make explicit?
Farmer with the Shotgun claps Mr Satan.
That farmer claps Zeno
That moostache looks great.
It's not a moostache. On my world it means hope.
I'd say that King Chappa would stomp the shit out of Mr. Satan.
You're probably right
If Mr Satan wasn't afraid of super-techniques, he could easily learn everything Krillin knows (Like the kamehameha wave, and flight). He could also learn afterimage and shapeshifting. Any human can learn all of those.
My headcanon is that cell didn't kill Mr. Satan because of tournaments rules
But Cell said on the tv broadcast that although he’d try to avoid this, getting killed also means you lose.
king piccolo & junior really made martial artists quit their life
Well, probably around 70ish, that's being generous. None of the other crazy fighters fought the year he did.
I wonder how strong he would be with Ki control
Very weak
How exciting! I did say I wanted to see this video. Not saying that’s why you made it but I appreciate it anyway! 😊
Maybe instead of Roshi, Mr. Satan should have been the one who got the training power up. Considering how lazy we see him being, it could be a Frieza situation, where he is naturally strong and never needed to train and training would cause him to power up immensely.
weak? he had 187 at his punch... Krillin that had been training and had some power had 203...
but, then again... Piccolo had 210 in one finger...
It's all tricks I tell ya... tricks! it's just light shows and reflections. These amateurs wouldn't last a day in my dojo. (I hope they don't kill me)
He is a gag character who represents IRL worlds best possible fighter
I disagree that he'd be eliminated SO early. He'd definitely have NO chance against Goku, Krillin or Roshi and one or two of the stronger regular fighters in the 21st tournament, BUT let's not forget, he DID win every tournament he was in since at least the year before the Cell games and all the way up through the buu saga starts - and since the Z fighters were not participating, those were legitimate wins. He DID very EASILY beat a giant muscled guy too - Spopovich, when he had hair - and didn't get touched at all during that. He also hit the punching machine harder than any other fighter BUT the Z fighters - including some giant, muscle-bound types. So, yes, Goku EASILY beat that big muscle man, but so did Mr. Satan with a similarly large guy who he effortlessly dodged and kicked the hell out of. I think you're forgetting that, at least in the anime, he DID move for one scene - when making a move on the two gunners in the buu saga - faster than the eye can see - he's shown DISAPPEARING for a second. So he's on the very high end of NORMAL, non-ki user abilities.
So, back to the 21st tournament. I think he'd have beaten the big muscle guy Goku beat, for instance. He'd beat MOST fighters and make it into the finals - but he'd just become yet another guy Goku easily knocks out, once he does. Or Roshi would, or Krillin. Nam would win too. But not EVERY guy in the finals of that tournament would beat Mr. Satan, I'd say. Certainly he could never win back then, but the fact he DID win many tournaments DOES suggest aside from the freaks, like Goku, Krillin and Roshi, he'd do OK until he met them. HOWEVER, that all changes if you assume Mr. Satan were taught ki control for even a MONTH. If he DID learn how to use ki, he'd probably be on the level of a Nam or Choppa. While those characters don't VISIBLY throw ki blasts, I think they likely have some basic knowledge of INTERNAL ki control which explains why they're far beyond the other fighters other than Roshi, Goku and Krillin. I'd BET that they have very BASIC ki control and Goku did too back then - he just didn't yet know how to form it into an EXTERNAL blast. But just because you aren't firing off a ki blast doesn't mean you're not USING ki to move around, punch, etc. Mr. Satan is doing HIS feats with PURELY muscle action - no ki control at ALL. If he had ANY ki control, like if Goku gave him some lessons, he'd become EXPONENTIALLY stronger. Still nowhere near even Raditz, but maybe he'd be able to give kid Goku at his FIRST tournament a decent match IF he had learned some ki control first. Look what it did for his daughter - a few basic ki control lessons and she's kicking a guy's head so hard it nearly comes off his BODY.
Can you make a video on how strong is Yajirobe?
Yes. It's coming out this year.
@@LSMMIKE Nice
What about against Officer Black? Could Satan beat him?
I'm forgot how strong they were in OG Dragonball. I originally thought Satan could defeat Nam, Ranfan, Pamput, or Bacterian
He's gotta be around 100-150. He's pretty durable. I would say maybe as strong as Chi-Chi in the 3rd Budokai.
Didn't Roshi teach Goku and Kuririn to surpass the human limit of all stats like strength, endurance, speed, and so on.
So I think most human characters who could take kid Goku's hit had surpassed some few of the human limit abilities, but not on the same level as Goku and his friends.
21th Budokaitenkaichi tournament if Mr.Satan would fight against any character who is not Goku and his allies:
1. Mr.Satan vs Bacterian: Can maybe win if can get get close to the bad stench.
2. Mr.Satan vs Ranfan: High change to win, if not distracted by her feminine ability.
3. Mr.Satan vs Nam: High change to lose by a Knock Out, could maybe take the hit on the neck, but not the the double hand/arm on the throat.
4. Mr.Satan vs Giran: Lose he would not be able to break Giran's slime
22th Tournament
1. Mr.Satan vs Man Wolf: High change to win.
2. Mr.Satan vs Pamput: Could maybe Win but could also Lose.
Both have similar characteristics to be arrogant but Pamput a bit less than Mr.Satan.
23rd Tournament there he have close to 0% change, the only one he could "possible" fight is Chichi, but would possible lose.
When it come to enemies Goku had fought.
Mr.Satan could maybe deafeat General Silver and White in a fair fight, but not against General Blue, and Tao Pai Pai would send him to the line of the Great King Enma with the Express speed.
Against any of Denon King Piccolo's demons he would easily got killed.
So..For a average earthlings is Mr.Satan pretty strong, for earthlings who have surppased some their limits is he pretty weak,
for Goku's earthling's allies is he extremely weak, and mortal's above that is Mr.Satan so weak that they all decrease their strength extremely low so they do not obliterate him in a few nano secounds of their strength.
I think a serious Mr Satan could be a very dangerous high level human opponent, but at his age never reach DB levels of power. If Videl was serious, maybe she could hit middle to high tier DBZ fighting levels with a few unlocks. Like if Chi Chi didn't want to just be a muscle mommy and wanted to be serious, she'd be crazy TOP level. All choices, and the RNG of life. Roads not taken. Let's get serious!
We laugh and mock mr Satan but real talk he could fold all of us easily even if we jumped him.
Overall I agree that the World Tournaments as time goes on he falls further down because he really can't compete with the Z Fighters.
But the first World Tournament I can see Mr. Satan getting to the Quarterfinals and depending on who he fights is how far he goes, Ran Fan can fight but uses her looks to beat the chumps and Satan I think easily gets past her. Bacterian I can see Satan matching him in terms of strength and like Krillin over coming the smell issue. Naim that's a tough call I think he could withstand the sky attack and avoid a ko as he was knocked clear into a mountain and survived so I give that a 50/50 shot there. Monster Beast Giron mo chance while maybe he matches him in strength Grion uses the marry go round gum and Satan can't break it like Goku. Satan has no chance against our Z Fighters.
The Second World Tournament Satan chances are beats the boxer Goku faced, but everyone else he loses to no question.
The Third World Tournament hands down given how stacked it is Goku, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Yamcha, Hero/Kami, Chi Chi, Chatzuo, King Compa, Yajirobe...no chance Satan makes it past the qualifying rounds.
Remember when Mr Satan got punched by Omega Shenron, its not canon but still impressive considering ssj2 kid Gohan punched Cell jrs apart
Stronger than every human not named Tien Uub(if he counts) Krillin Yamcha Chiaoutzu Roshi Yajirobe
Probably once the competition gained publicity, the actual strong fighters stopped participating and the tournament became a one man show.
137 pounds per square inch for a punch is pathetic lol boxers hit between 800-1500. If that is what that was measuring MR Satan is pathetic
Hey! I've been watching your videos for a while and i trust your power scalings (i agree with most of them, not the 100% but I think you analyse more deeply than other powerscalers).
I wonder what you think about goku and vegeta's power level in their base forms after namek. Do they increase massively? Do they stay moreorless the same? Do they increase slowly? I'd like to know your opinion, it could be a great topic for a video (either now or whenever, even if you post that video in 3 years i'll watch it either way).
Lastly, i want to clarify that my english isn't perfect and maby there's something I haven't said properly that can lead to confusion, sorry for that 😅
Well now I feel stupid for thinking Satan could take on Master Roshi when he first appeared, so long as he didn't use any ki attacks. I didn't realize how much I needed this video.
(I'm gonna go back to one of your half year old polls and edit my post on it that said how I actually thought Satan could beat Kid Goku at the start of Dragon Ball...... I do still believe his punches are stronger than the average bullet though.)
He won the championship with Goku, Vegeta, Supreme Kai, and the rest of the Z fighters.
For human standards... he's a beast. Not even close to the Z fighters, tho (like Videl, Killin, Mr Roshi or Chi Chi).
Mr. Satan had the balls to fight alone vs two powerful enemies. Why not other humans (no Z WARRIORS) wanted to fight?
Maybe I missed it (getting kids ready and eating breakfast), but didn't kid Goku when we first saw him take a bullet (or slug) from a rifle (or shotgun) to the head and it only pissed him off? Any evidence suggesting Mr. S can take a bullet to the head?
Which has me believing the grenade Tao threw at Goku wouldn't have had much affect, unless its special grenade or something.
mr satan is someone that maybe could have presented some fight to goku... during the pilaf arc. he is on that level. after goku trains with roshi, not even that. he is yamcha level when yamcha met goku for the first time. a little lower than that even because goku and yamcha were already bulletproof by them and mr.satan is not.
Dont forget during the buu fight they are on the sacred world of the kais and that has 10X earth gravity and from the looks of it from the first time they got there mr satan doesnt appear to even notice
I used to love using hercule in the budokai games. It was like adding insult to injury. Plus he is a lovable idiot.
Mr Satan could be interesting to see against Colonel Silver, General White, Panput and... maybe Murasaki and Staff Officer Black. General Blue is where he stops having any chances. That guy jumped from a plane and landed on foot and also resisted an electric eel and also has psychic powers.
Satan can still beat the shit out of Pilaf Gang if they don't happen to be in some high tech fighting costume.
So your saying that after Judgment day happens and finally the smoke clears all you will see is the Champ??😂😂😂😂