Parkland trial: Nikolas Cruz lawyers accuse state of witness tampering | LiveNOW from FOX
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2022
- Attorneys for Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz suddenly raised issues of prosecutorial misconduct, accusing the state of Florida of tampering with a witness for the defense. The judge denied a motion for a recess and the defense implied that they would file a motion to have the death penalty thrown out.
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the way she keeps on arguing after she’s already denied the motion is infuriating
Yeah that speaks a lot about her and her superiority complex.
Billable hours
the way the judge told her to speak directly to her I LOVE IT
Yeah it reminded me of Amber heard.
She has a bad habit of speaking to the prosecution
His main lawyer is so beyond unprofessional and has absolutely no respect for the court. She has proved this time and time again. Absolutely disgusted by her behaviour
This defense attorney is literally trying everything for a mistrial or to drop the death penalty. I can’t believe this lawyer acts like this to the court. It’s absurd.
This is what happens when a team of defense lawyers have to make an attempt at defending something that is indefensible.
That's what he's paid to do...
@@KatJ3st there are a few cases wheee it’s just not going to happen rather you act like a dick or not and this probably one of them lol
It is their obligation. If they did not do this then he could sue for ineffective assistance of counsel.
@@SponsoredByRitalin there’s respectfully defending your client and being just a terrible person and acting a fool
The patience this judge has is impressive…
I think she is showing no patience.
@@MendyJanelle …it’s impressive how patient she has been throughout this case, with the Defense trying to practically sabotage the trial with any excuse they can make up just to save this killer, I can’t believe it… This happened in 2018, all those poor kids slaughtered by this piece of sh*t. I don’t know if you saw the videos of the doctors talking about the autopsies, but one kid was shot 12 times!! All these years and those parents are still waiting for some kind of justice… Yes, she’s a very patient judge.
@@MendyJanelle she more patience than me , his defence is annoying and trying delay at every second they can . If things aren’t going their way one of them looses it and throws a tantrum . They aren’t playing a game out in the park they are in court and when things don’t go their way one throws a hissy fit and more or less says she not continuing . Can you blame the judge for loosing it ?
And if you look back this has been the same judge for 4 years and the lead the attorney has been like this the ENTIRE time. She is consistently pulling this and being rude to this judge.
@@MendyJanelleI feel like now that I'm going back and rewatching this trial the Judge was definitely impatient, aggressively rude and snapped at the Defense every single time there was an opportunity to do so... I will also agree the Defense were annoying and somewhat unprofessional and were disrespectful of the Judge's rulings - they were pushy and painful to listen to but they were doing their job.... just because I comment that the Defense were often treated unfairly by the Judge doesn't mean that I need a lesson to be reminded of how brutal and tragic and horrific what Cruz did at that school that day was ...whether he deserved the death penalty or not I'm not going to say, but it is possible to believe that Judge Scherer was out of line at times and there's definitely a reason she's no longer a judge! But I've also been paralegal for over 30 years and have attended at least 60 trials of which 25 were murder trials... I've worked 20 years as a DA's Paralegal and 12 now for a Criminal Defense law firm... so I am very familiar with courtroom behavior.
What is going on with the legal profession in the state of Florida.
Nobody seems able follow any form of professionalism.
You answered your own question. It's Florida.
Gareth, do you care to explain or elaborate by what you mean with your statement? To me it looks like it's not a Florida thing but a typical lawyer trying to get the person she was charged with out of the death penalty, that is her job as a defense lawyer, even though this kid deserves the death penalty.
Its Florida you answered your own question
@@stephguz I wish I could have Judge Eliz Scherer scold me at Walmart
It’s not just legal profession. It’s Florida not a person or thing professional about it.
the way the courtroom is setup with the lawyers able to see opposing council at a 90 deg level is just too weird for me.
The judge didn’t say she couldn’t file motions on the tampering allegations…she said you have time to do it later. I think the lawyer knew that and just said pushed the issue to get it into people’s minds. I
Where else is the defense lawyer supposed to present her case/concerns? It wasn't just to push the issue into peoples minds. It was done to defend her client.
Ok Joan.
Saying "that's fine" after the judges ruling as if that's her place🤨
The judge is right, she could just file the papers in later. There’s no need to stop the court’s time, the jury or the witness for this.
Ya but if the state is witness tampering they should deal with it now.
Try to be a little objective here and put your emotions to the side. If you were on trial and facing a death penalty, you would hope your legal team would identify this misconduct at the time and not wait until later on. But of course since this is about nikolas Cruz and I of course hate that guy too, but gotta think objectively
@@letsgobrandon7339 facts. So much emotion, and very little objectivity.
@@16MedicRN You to decide on life or death and see if you can keep you 'emotion' out. What is 'objectivity' have to do with it. Two platters on the scales of justice, one is the law, the other is justice. What qualifies as justice is all emotion. Getting down to amount of trivial detail in this trial is objectivity.
@@letsgobrandon7339 Their is no such objective. The scales of justice have two platters. law and justice. Justice has punitive elements which have emotion wrapped in. The other scale is the law where objectivity resides.
I truly appreciate this judge. She is fair, to the point and most importantly, no nonsense. Exactly what these families need. The defense is going to make as much noise and disruption as they possibly can. Simply because they have none.
What trial are you watching? It is important to know the why and the defence is doing a great job in answering that question.
@@stevene9785 Exactly! The Defense has a job to do, just like the Prosecution.
This judge is not doing a good job, sorry. The defense kinda sucks but they have a job to do: avoid the death penalty for their client.
Are we watching the same trial? This judge is in WAY over her head..
@@blakejohnson7148 I think the judge is kind of to emotionally involved, however; I don't know how a judge could not be emotionally involved with this kind of case, and trial It would be very difficult not to be. The judge has denied almost all of the requests the defense has put in if not all which could potentially cause for an appeal, mistrial down the road. Therefore, I hope the judge is prepared to be able to give a good reason as to why she is denying all these requests when the defense puts appeals in for a new trial.
She is so unprofessional!!! How about to ask permission to approach the bench?! Clown!
I haven't been following the trial very closely but the last two videos I have watched it's jaw dropping the amount of disrespect they're showing this judge. Has this been going on the whole time?!
That defense attorney has always been a moron. Very unprofessional woman
The judge is being biased and with this that pos can get a mistrial . The lawyers are trying there best to defend that pos bc it's his right
With the blonde lady yes
@@Music_junke "For years"????? perhaps some jealousy ??? Resentment ?? on the attorney's part?
So you would want potential misconduct to continue in a trial? Do you know what misconduct does?
I could never be a lawyer for someone who is guilty of committing a crime of this magnitude
Wow! These are not people acting as adults...I would hate to preside over this case.
not as smooth and staged as u seen in the movies huh.
I've noticed in general lately any televised court cases now have become a circus
@@snoot4873 the judge even called them out for being unprofessional. She’s not wrong
As a former law student, I’m sorry to say but I feel this trial has turned into a complete joke.
And the families and loved ones have waited 4 and a half years for justice. . And regardless of what sentence is ultimately imposed the end result will be a life sentence for the families. And if Cruz is put to death he will be on death row for years.
Just like Nikolas' life
Does that mean you’re a lawyer now?
@@disneyrockz12 i did not go into the legal profession. However i can tell you that it is a very tough and competitive field. It’s not for everyone and you need to have a certain personality and a really thick skin. Relations between prosecution and defence atternies can be severely strained, if not out right hostile at times.
@@MrStundon1 well yeah, a lawyer is someone you never want to meet compared to a doctor as someone you need to meet. I get it
She is just short of arguing with the judge. She said no multiple times.
I’m sorry... this is the most lunacy I have ever witnessed in a trial and if I were the parents and loved ones of the victims I would be SO angry! This is all so insulting!
So you believe the prosecution?
Apparently, you never watched the Jodi Arias trial?
Regardless of what anyone thinks about nikolas Cruz his law team are doing their jobs by trying to avoid death penalty
This is all normal and appropriate court activities. The law is complex and thousands of facts along with testimony and behavior by both sides must be discussed openly in pursuit of justice.
The same here this is a long trial when it going be over with
This lawyer seems to be insane 🙄 she is continuing to disregard what the judge is telling her. Does she have something in her ears blocking her from hearing correctly good grief 🤦♀️
"I need 20 minutes to go to my office"...Judge said no and she kept going and walking around interupping the judge. That attorney is ridiculous. I'd be irritated if I was that Judge too.
This attorney has also asked multiple times to no longer represent me Cruz and the judge has denied that each time sooooooooo
@@seizuregirlllll yes because if the defense Attorney, excused herself or was asked ...to leave the court room and not represent cruz ...it would leave him unrepresented and lead to ,a Mistrial she isn't stupid unfortunately
Those defense lawyers are shameless! Their ceaseless antics are going way beyond simple "defense" of their client!
How is this trial still going on? Just sentence him already! The victims and the families of the victims are already traumatized enough!
I can't believe it either someone is making money
FOX media … the defense lawyer… plus this is something she can put on her resume for landing high profile cases in the future…
Agreed.
It’s the penalty phase he already pled guilty
This is to determine how much time is reasonable and to determine whether or not he’s a danger to society if ever let out, basically just a negotiation of how much time to give him
"I called his lawyer and asked to speak to his client.."...umm you mean the witness giving a testimony? Both lawyers are idiots and I'm surprised she didn't throw them both out a long time ago.
Yea both sides are making it personal between them.
If it isn’t, that should be a very serious allegation. Wow.
I am honestly surprised more commenters aren't seeing how serious this is that the state's attorney's office contacted a witness about his testimony. That is not good that they did that before his testimony and they very well could hurt this trial.
@@MissiPality this is very serious! There should be no need to contact a witness ready to testify at this point!! Not a good look at all!
@@MissiPality I have noticed, in general, a lot of people see right and wrong based on who is doing it rather than on the act itself. I suspect there would be outrage in the comments if the defense did this.
The district is going to get sued now! He should have never been allowed to attend a mainstream school to begin with.
He's got 6 flipping lawyers how ridiculous one of them could be working on that now. They're clearly not doing anything. This lawyer is really pushing the line of contempt.
They actually have more than that ,they are just bringing 6 in at a time !
This in itself is such an insult to the victims .He deserves NOTHING but at most he should get one overloaded fresh out of lawschool attorney !
For the love of God, he killed all those children, sentence him and get it over with. This is ludicrous😡
Well that's entirely on the prosecution. The defence offered to plead guilty in exchange for dropping the death penalty. The prosecution wouldn't accept that. NC still pled guilty regardless, saving a whole entire trial that would have had to occur before the sentencing phase. If they wanted to just sentence him and get it over with, they could have just done the plea bargain, gave him life imprisonment, and it would be over already.
he's already guilty and has plead as such. this is the punitive stage, which is just how figuring out he'll be punished. the state wants the death penalty because they wouldn't settle for him dying in prison--which is silly because people on death row aren't killed right away anyway.
he's already guilty and has plead as such. this is the punitive stage, which is just how figuring out he'll be punished. the state wants the death penalty because they wouldn't settle for him dying in prison--which is silly because people on death row aren't killed right away anyway.
@@cthulhuhoops They're still put to death. There's a possibility in the FAR future for him to be released, as are others in jail. We don't want him to be in society.
@@tabora_ he cannot be released nor can he appeal. He pled guilty to life in prison...if they rule the death penatly, then he can appeal but if the life sentence stands then he cannot appeal
These lawyers are impossible! They don't ask for permission to speak, they don't get permission to approach the bench, they don't stand up to address the court. Why doesn't she reprimand them? She needs to get control over her courtroom.
The judge is so done with this.. throw him in a cell for life.. the end! Someone will try and get him especially if he goes to prison in Florida!!
I am ready to hear his half brother talk.. he was a very big bully to him.. I’m sure he knew about his obsessions also..
@@lifeoflw84 do you know when his brother is scheduled to testify?
She did yesterday
The judge did reprimand and in very strong terms. There is a separate video on this.
Judge: I need people to stop getting up, moving around and making noise
Defense: Your honor, I would like to step out and go to my office...
I was dame like dame lady shut up please 😹
Just because the judge said it doesn’t make it right.
@@ryanmurphy5472 she is the judge. Yes she can
I love how glamourous this judge is. I have never seen a judge look like she is ready to go clubbing after work... lol
🤣 Can't tell if compliment or not..... 😂🤣
The defence is assuming that the death sentence is going to be the only outcome.
thats because it is, their case is in shambles and their desperate
It is the professional responsibility of a defense attorney in a death penalty case to attempt to take the death penalty off the table at any point in the trial. Also, if you look at statistics about how many individuals are sentenced to death in Florida for less violent crimes than Cruz's crime, it is smart for his attorneys to be attempting to remedy the worst-case scenario. Cruz has already pled guilty to the crime so the death penalty is a real, and daunting outcome.
and so it should!
@@colindavid2078 if you kill a murderer, that makes you just as bad and it makes you a killer all the same. The only difference is that he killed more people at once but he hasn't killed more people than that stupid country has put to death. I hate your backwards country.
Hopefully that will be the outcome
That judge is not doing a good job in that courtroom!
These Defense attys are way out of line as to how they are talking to the judge. She's being pushed around.
that's because she's annoying af and incompetent
Why is judge allowing the lawyers to talk from their desk, there is a podium to speck from out-of-control court.
Oh shut up and sit down. Your client is going to be locked up forever.
That’s what they want, he’s already been convicted they r just arguing over giving him death r life in prison
Obviously. The point is whether he gets the death penalty. His lawyers are fighting hard to avoid that outcome, hence all the hysterionics.
@@XlogicXX which is only happening because the prosecutors wouldn't accept the plea deal of life in prison. these histrionics are only happening because the prosecution wanted to seek the death penalty.
@@cthulhuhoops that goes without saying. If I were a prosecutor in this case (and thank God I'm not) I'm not so sure I wouldn't seek the death penalty. This is some really evil stuff.
Understand feeling unsafe when you’re a witness for the defense and a principle of a school that a school shooter happened at. And I think this matter was handled fairly.
What kind of Justice are they looking for ? He killed so many in a cold blooded rampage!
This judge does not have control of this court
My goodness this is ridiculous more delays n excuses just rest for everyone’s sake finish up decide cruz fate n start the healing process
I have just watched a few episodes of these proceedings in the last 2 days.
From what I've seen, the whole place seems like a kangaroo court, IMO. I won't make any comments regarding "sides" as far as defense, prosecution, judge, etc. Some good points/some bad points all around. But the lack of professionalism by everyone in there is sorely lacking, IMO! 👀
The defense is so disrespectful.
There's NO WAY prosecution should be asking about somebody's testimony and talking about its implications.
WHAT US GOING ON? It's an open and shut case but prosecution still acts like this?
We know Cruz is guilty but getting the truth about him and his life shouldn't be something the prosecution is scared of. FFS, ridiculous.
The defendants are so disrespectful. What a great judge
My condolences to the appellate justices that have to handle this
The Defense Lawyer is extremely argumentative and even rude. Listen to the Judge - She clearly sees the bigger picture and what would be appropriate procedure to be followed at the time.
I'm sure we would all be argumentative and rude to a judge like her. My way or the highway. What kind of person sits in a chair that's supposed to be neutral and unbiased and is that bitchy and unfair? Wow! I think she comes in cranky from too much wine the night before. She's all about the cameras,. She knows where they are...she doesn't care about what's going on with this trial...she cares about how she looks, who's looking and who's not, but should be. I don't know how she got that position.
Thank you!
This defense attorney is so unprofessional. The judge said, “no.” It’s like listening to a teenager arguing.
Lol. Seriously? This judge is practically the most unfair judge in history.
Mary - that defense attorney is actually covering every right the defendant has -
@@thewholetruth5473 Agreed
@@maggiehogland1891 and the judge keeps denying her at every turn...bias and mistrial
The Judge is the very definition of unprofessional. Really phenomenal on how to escalate a situation as well. 🙄 I feel so bad for the families💔
She seems overly dramatic about everything. Before they even got started, she accused the news station in the courtroom of printing the names, addresses, occupations, and seating arrangement of the jurors! She said she had seen it on the news station's website. The judge was immediately telling the reporter that she was to tell her employer to remove this information IMMEDIATELY, which was the correct action.....however, after the judge came down hard on the reporter, Ms. McNeil admitted that they had only listed the jurors gender and seating position in the jury box, which is no big deal, and is often done. So the judge told the reporter everything was fine. McNeil seems to be an act first, think later kind of lawyer. I will be very surprised if she doesn't come back and formally apologize for making accusations before she had any evidence. She seems really desperate to have a mistrial declared at this point. She knows her boy is going to get the death penalty, so she's trying every trick in the book to keep him off death row. She's realizing her case isn't strong enough, so she's going to focus on a mistrial, since that's her best bet at this point.
I think she really feels there are grounds for a mistrial. His constitutional rights aren't being protected. This is her job, to defend her client.
@@jaydee4269 I understand that she is standing up for her client, but how are his constitutional rights being violated? Lawyers frequently ask witnesses what their testimony will be. As long as they aren't told how they should testify, threatened based on how they testify, or bribed to get them to testify a certain way, there is no witness tampering. My point about Ms. McNeil is that she has asked for a mistrial multiple times, during every stage of the trial, and for multiple reasons (this situation, a family member reacting verbally to the audio of the shooting, the court allowing the swastika evidence, potential jurors being released before the defense questioned them because they told the court they couldn't follow the law in this case, etc). She doesn't like this judge, and they've been butting heads from the beginning. These repeated requests for a mistrial feel a little like polite "jabs" at the court! Honestly, I hope they give him life. That way the families can get closure, knowing his only way out of prison will be in a body bag. If he gets death, there will be endless appeals, and the outcome will be the same. But if a mistrial is granted, these families, witnesses, and experts will have to go through everything again, which will be torture. And these poor jury members will have wasted the last couple months of their time. So I hope it doesn't get to that point. Just lock him up and throw away the key! 💙
This judge is extremely immature.
100%!! She is extremely immature and narcissistic.
2 jealous harpies.
@@Mike-og3xb lol no. I love a strong female, especially one that practices law. This judge throws tantrums and bad attitude when she should remain calm and diplomatic.
@@joannt2298 Leftist loons drive her crazy, I get it.
It is unbelievable this judge feels indifference about tampering witness behavior.
"OK thats denied" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Judge really not investigating witness tampering allegation? Giving basis for appeal…
So now we can address one of the jurors being threatened.
This chick keeps bringing things up and looking around for gasps and all she keeps getting is a “sit-your-ass-down-and-chill”
If I was on a defense and wanted the day off because I saw the plaintiff eating food, I would love a judge to novate my request and inure my demands.
I'm glad this judge isn't being played by that attorney !
Defense was so offended the judge didn't just trust her without evidence and through the entire case out on the spot.
Is the trial still going on? I need to see this 😩like why is it taking so long to just punish this murderer
I have seen snippets of videos regarding this trial.
Honestly, it sounds and looks like a train wreck!
This guy is exactly why others are afraid of owning a gun. I hope the families affected can move on with their lives and start the journey to healing
Wrong!! It is a reason for sanely people to have guns not broken people
This guy and the recent many like him, are why I have become a lot less afraid of owning a gun so I can defend myself and others against people like him.
This guy... and many others. 😑
@@rattata30 you can want to kill people and be mentally just fine. So that won't stop them cuz they ain't damaged to the point where its noticeable to society
@@rattata30 it’s not wrong it’s an opinion based on many conversations… it works both ways … some people want one and some don’t …
He already admitted to doing this terrible thing. Why waste the time and money to try to save his loose ass
Because of that whole ‘right to a free and fair trial’ thing. Emotions are running high and the defense are all underpaid public defenders, forced to represent a guy who did the unspeakable. If they don’t defend him with vigor, as they would with any other client, we would 100% see a mistrial. I’d rather them sort out the particulars now opposed to on appeal.
Because it's the law darling even that he is guilty he has the right for a trial.
@Boston Gal he most certainly can appeal his sentence even though he pleaded guilty. Also, in Florida you get 30 days after sentencing to withdraw your guilty plea.
Because it's the law cupcake. If you don't like it move to North Korea where they shoot you on the spot.
Absolutely no respect for this judge at all. It's disgusting
Do you mean you have no respect for the judge, or that the defense attorney has no respect for the judge?
Every single person convicted in Florida that receives the death penalty gets an automatic appeal. Not only that, he will be on death row for Years! Learn about what you're saying before you say it.
🤡
Thank you!
This comment section is unbelievable.
I’d like to bet on that. When you think of heinous crimes John Allen Mohammed and Timothy McVeigh come to mind. John Allen Mohammed was Executed 6 years after he was caught and Timothy McVeigh was executed 7 years after he was caught. This case fits that bill. They are going to execute Nikolas Cruz. He has already been in custody for 4 years. To be honest I would not be shocked if he’s dead by the age of 26.
@@Yyyyyy5 I understand where you're coming from, but those convicts weren't executed in Florida. Florida has a lengthy stay on death row. We're talking at least a decade, if not more.
@@kathleenfannin8486 all 27 states that have the death penalty have lengthy stays if you have appeals. John Allen Mohammed was executed in Virginia a state where any execution is rare and he was executed in just 6 years. Tim McVeigh was executed by the federal government, all 50 states have the federal death penalty.
She needs remove herself from this case. She is clearly biased.
Definitely!!!! Someone posted the other day that this judge used to work for the lead prosecutor. IF...IF that is true, she needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY!!! Totally biased and conflict of interest
@@nicolekirk8754 That's exactly what I've been asking since day 1 and I'm shocked to see nobody else asking this question! I'm not familiar with US law but common sense says that if someone's former boss is part of the legal team on any side then it's likely that the trial might not be a fair one 🤷🏻♀️
@@nicolekirk8754 yea she did
"Can i have 20 minutes to go to my office" No.
Add more volume....... I can turn it down if it's too loud..... I can barely hear this......
If any juror holds out on the death penalty I feel sorry for what their life would be after the trial...the defense is freaking crazy, you would have to be to defend th0at monster
It may be good the defense is making so many arguments, there is no way an appeal for a negligent defense team could happen after this. (I'm not a lawyer just speculating)
The defense is making a lot of arguments because this case is so high stakes for their client. While making multiple arguments and lodging objections are crucial to competent defense, appeals for ineffective assistance of counsel can still be viable based on several other factors. The defense's arguments may leave less errors to justify a claim for ineffective counsel, but such an appeal could still be made and could still succeed depending on the circumstances.
@Boston Gal Except for you know,, the many appeals that he has a right to make because of the constitution..
@Boston Gal Lol what? The death penalty gets even more scruinity and appeals than a normal sentencing... Because it's the death penalty.
@@TheFlyingZulu but obviously in witness tampering they would be able to try for an appeal otherwise I’m sure the lawyer would not have even asked for one.
@Boston Gal he gets no appeals on the fact that he's found guilty. He still gets appeals on the sentencing.
State lying!!!! Busted..
The Judge is so over this already… crazy how court works..
What a shameful bunch of fools. Trying to throw anything at the wall to see if something will stick. Shame on them.
Holy smokes there are some serious sleazeballs for attorneys! What the actual!!!
This is a very important trial in many ways, it brings so many issues to light and is far away from the simple eye for an eye thrive of the very simple folks. Since unfortunately there will be more andmore and more school - shootings, it is to presume with deep regret, it would be the appropriate reaction to listen carefully and to take measures of PREVENTION!
School are taking measures. I hope you’re wrong about more shootings…
@@alexmontes6275 I believe schools do as much as we can. Issue is politicians doing 0 and.this is the best example that there should be laws about insurance to cover fully psych care. Especially in cases like this with a kid that had red flags since birth
Teach your kids to be nice 😬 that’s a start a simple step. Starts with the parents
The monster himself called for more shootings: "I ask for mass murders and terrorists to destroy this country". This should never have been released as there are lots of other monsters that might want to follow in his footsteps. He must be made an example of.
@@StellaFl when did he say that?
Oh my God!!!?!! This judge!,... it's over. He Will get a mistrial on his sentencing! 🤯🥺 unbelievable! To all the families I am so SO sorry
@@eff2973 yup 🥺
Lol no he won’t.
@@eff2973 He won't walk out. Regardless of what happens, he signed a deal for life in prison! This trial is simply about whether the state can kill him. No matter what, he will never set foot outside of a prison again, maybe not even out of solitary confinement. The only two punishments here are final, and no matter the outcome (mistrial, retrial etc.), he will never be out into the free world again.
@@eff2973 are you stupid? He already plead guilty so he’s not ‘walking out the front door’
There is more then enough testimony for the jury to decide. The witness will say the same as the others. Just delete this witness and move on.
That's the shortest route from a to b. However, possible witness tampering is a federal felony. I think it's worth the long route. I mean the prosecutors called the witness just before they were scheduled to appear and said they were "concerned about the effects his testimony would have on the case and community". If that's not trying to sway or intimidate a witness, I dont know what is. Furthermore, they thought they could get away with it since one of the witnesses friends works for the prosecutors office and was in on the call. The defense was right. The judge should have been outraged.
@@lynn9496 "concerned about the effects his testimony would have on the case and community".
where is the intimidation? out of the many witnesses already testified. With or without one person's testimony will change nothing. There has been plenty more damming testimony that would 'have an effect on the community' and so what? The jury is the only 'community' of concern.
@@MrBonners the difference is the prosecution didn't call each witness and camp a friend in the conversation, just prior to their testimony. That is Intimidating...or at least tampering...as if to sway him by means of friendship. You don't have to break the law hundreds of times, not even ten times. Only once.
@@lynn9496 What sway? This is not a prosecution, it is a life or death determination. The witness was a school principal. Only going to answer questions on the records available to him. He would have no medical or legal opinions or authority. Would be the same stuff as the other service providers records and testimony. What is to sway? Has nothing to do with the community sensibilities. That has no relevance to what this case is doing.
@@MrBonners what would the purpose of calling him and camping in a friend serve if not to attempt to sway his testimony? You keep referring to the cruz case and preponderance of witness testimony. tampering is a separate issue. It is a federal felony. There's no excuse for calling a witness the same morning as his testimony and camping a friend in on the call a d expressing "concern about their testimony". None.
They must be desperate at this point 🙄
I’ve been following what I can in the UK and online. I’m torn about the death penalty, but surely if there has been possible witness tampering that needs to be looked into? I would hate to be the judge in this case but there has been 2 or 3 times now I feel the judge hasn’t been particularly fair towards Cruz. I know what he did was beyond words, I can’t even describe it and he should be held accountable for that but at the end of the day everyone deserves a fair trial no matter their crime.
Between her mistrial motions, hollow complaints about certain evidence, and now witness tampering claims, it seems to me like the defense is merely throwing crap at the wall and hoping something will stick. Luckily the judge sees right through her shenanigans.
Been watching from Day 1. The judge has been very fair. The defense is incredibly poor. This is unfortunate because if I was Cruz, I would appeal the decision (if death) due to incompetent defense.
I agree.
Agreed. There's NO WAY prosecution should be talking to a witness and telling him the implications of his testimony outrageous behaviour. Cruz is guilty of an awful crime but that doesn't mean you behave like laws snd rights don't matter
@@DJ-769 I've watched from the beginning, and I disagree. Thanks for your input.
They are so desperate. This is a joke defense
The Judge:.....dolled-up!!
Well according to the witness he was contacted by the asst prosecutor and felt they were trying to get him not to testify. I watched the entire trial yesterday.
The witness is NC former principal.
That defense attorney loves to have a hissy an awful lot. She seems unprofessional and that doesn’t help her with the judge.
The judge looks exhausted by the defense
Why don’t the lawyers stand when speaking to the judge.
This so called lawyer seems like she does not like the death penalty
Good for you judge
This witch is unreal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! those Kids that were murdered had no rights no choice in what happened to them .
I think the defence is picking up even the slightest hint to defer the case further even if it requires her to manipulate the info about that call done by state attorney to the witness. She was clearly talking from high above the clouds and she need to come down on earth and give others respect too. I think she is high on herself.
honestly this shouldnt even have to be discussed... he killed innocent people, why are we still arguing about his 'rights' ? he is nothing but a waste, get rid of him already and let the victims mourn finally in peace
His lawyers should get the D.P. for bothering to defend him.
You know the state did it.
That lawyer has NO respect for the Judge at all.
the nuts on this defense team, man...
This defense lawyer has been trying to get out of this since day 1 .
I would be too
The defense is really dragging this on. UGH
Wow these lawyers! She didn't even ask to approach the bench!
These lawyers need to get a grip on themselves and learn how to behave in a court room. In addition there's no reason for the state to witness tampering given he plead guilty and this is only the sentencing. No one is going to risk that over just sentencing!
These defense lawyers are like a soap opera…trying to use these kind of “legal” tactics to help their client……anything to try to save him…..the lady lawyer was so “offended” by the alleged conduct of the prosecution, she wanted the entire trial stopped so she could have 20 minutes in her office to immediately. Address the alleged prosecution misconduct. All this for a client who was caught on camera and personally admitted to shooting scores of school children to death. There is no reasonable doubt in play here. This legal grandstanding and display of personal show of being offended is sad to watch. It’s becoming almost like a soap opera and circus with the defense. Very unprofessional behavior.
Mike. Re-read what you wrote.
The defense is trying to help their client… anything to save him?
Stick with me here, I reckon that might be their job mate. Could be wrong, but I’m not.
Also, this isn’t about guilt. Defense is not arguing he didn’t do it. This is a penalty phase. He plead guilty. “Reasonable doubt” isn’t a thing.
Defense is right. I personally guarantee, if the death penalty is awarded there will be an appeal granted based off this incident alone if the judge does handle this. There has been many, many other incidents that will very reasonably warrant an appeal, outside of the one he’d be automatically awarded should the death penalty be imposed.
An appeal means, in some cases, we gotta do this all again. More court for the families.
You’re assuming she’s emotional FOR the offender. She’s gotten visibly emotional for the victims. More appeals mean more court and less closure for the families.
How are you going to literally list the things attorneys are supposed to do and call them unprofessional?
You have to put your emotions aside. If it was you or your loved one going up for the death penalty you would want the lawyers to do everything in their power to get you or your loved one off of desth row. Witness tampering is illegal and it needs to be dealt with if it's true.
@@jessicaely2521 THE JUDGE DIDNT DENY THE DEFENSE THE ABILITY TO FILE A MOTION REGARDING WITNESS TAMPERING....JUST SAID NOT NOW, NOT WHILE JURY WAITS TO HEAR OTHER WITNESSES.
@@sydnidowney3598 WHY ARE YOU YELLING???? YOU DONT NEED TO YELL
I understand that Nikolas Cruz is definitely guilty, but the judge is SO unprofessional and CLEARLY bias and guilty or not thats NOT fair and it doesn't look good in a judge. She couldn't even look the defense lawyer in the eye when she denied the recess and for her to say "why cant you file it next week?" when it comes to witness tampering? She's absolutely nuts and she deserves to be fired. Thats not TRUE professional justice
The judge was forced to resign from her job. She killed her career
This attorney is very unprofessional.
These defense attorneys should be disbarred!!!
It is a very long trial and for the parents whose children died, each day that passes is very difficult for them and what they want is that I have already finished what the jury determines will not change that their children
There are levels to this woman’s unprofessionalism. From her talking directly to the prosecution, instead of the to judge. To her wanting everyone to wait 20 minutes for her to do something she can do on her own time. This defense attorney is a Karen through & through.
This isn't unprofessional - she's advocating for her client based on witness tampering she observed. It is the exact type of thing to bring up in session.
Shes doing a damn good job 👏
@@ilovetati91 Yeah, we may all want the conviction but a functioning justice system is far more important
Shut uppp
I wonder if she’s related to amber Heards attorney Elaine LOL, reminds me of her 😬
The prosecution is really upsetting that judge-they should be a little more diligent!
What happened to all the families sitting in the courtroom