Parkland fireworks: Judge EXPLODES on Nikolas Cruz lawyer for bringing up HER children
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2022
- Parkland trial Judge Elizabeth Scherer went ballistic on Nikolas Cruz's lawyer who objected to statements from victim family members criticizing the defense team and making reference to their children. During the argument, Cruz's attorney rhetorically asked the judge how she would feel if it were her children being brought up, and the judge snapped at the attorney and had him removed from the defense table and sent to the back of the courtroom.
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"No one in this courtroom had to endure what we had to endure." In front of the victims. Unbelievable.
Right!!!!! Absolutely unreal.
For real!!! Seriously!!! Does he even know what these poor families had to endure!!! How dare they!!!!
I almost threw my phone at that point
That’s obviously in reference to the topic at hand use common sense
@@Kujosreturn7960 tell that to these idiot lawyers bringing up her children
Just because she is a young Judge, doesn't mean they think they can talk to her that way. Shame on them.
There is no way she has kids, absolutely no one would make that thing a mother
she was justified for the first 2 min, but yelling at the GOOD lawyer breaks everything and disrespects her OWN children
@@mechwarreir2 cope and seethe
@@mechwarreir2 huh?
Young & dont forget.. female
I'm a man and I'm saying if the judge was a man they wouldn't push as hard. I give that judge major kudos for standing her ground and showing great restraint.
LOL, bad judge!
i mean she literally does not understand basic english....
She was a hypocrite. She had to step down after her unprofessional behavior.
She’s a stud.
She was reprimended after this and no is longer judge
She told him to sit down 10 times & he still ignored her is wild & highly Insubordination. Imagine if she was Judge Judy lol everybody going to jail
Facts 😂 why y'all in here for we tried to judge Judy 😭😂
Yes indeed. He just kept talking over the judge. Id have dismissed him out of the court for insubordination.
She looks like Corn Star Lisa Ann and I love it!
It's amazing how many times a judge needs to repeat themselves these days. It's like they're talking to children.
It's like a mom trying to explain to toddlers how to act
There is a reason they are called arguments
She should have held them in contempt imo.
the society we currently live in, is extremely toxic. I still miss the old days when people had zero access to phones and social platforms
It’s literally always existed. Just because people have job titles doesn’t make them special or different. We’re all just flesh& bones at the end of the day
For the defense to express ‘no one in this court as had to endure what we’ve had to endure’ while the victim’s families sit there is a level of evil I can’t comprehend.
@@amber82872 no public defender should ever have to endure this
This is the flawed justice system that has been made a mockery by leftist liberals who know it’s no longer about what’s fair or what’s common sense it’s about eroding our constitution.
The man should have been drawn and quartered for that statement.
It’s his job, he’s just playing chess at this point. There’s no emotions involved. Nikolas is clearly going to serve life no matter what way you cut it. But it’s good to practice new strategies
@@amber82872 i mean not really… most public defenders are failed lawyers who still enjoy the practice but are stuck with defending evil criminals.
These were the most disgusting, unprofessional, rude, obnoxious defense attorneys I've ever seen, and I've worked more than enough court cases in my decades in law!! They give lawyers, as a whole, a big black eye!!
"The Florida Supreme Court has publicly reprimanded the judge who oversaw the penalty trial of Parkland school shooter Nikolas Cruz for showing bias toward the prosecution." No wonder they acted the way they did.
"the most disgusting, unprofessional, rude, obnoxious defense attorneys" - seems you've not followed any of the multiple trials for Trump....
I forgot about all the violent crimes he did. Not like it was overvalued property in Mara Lago... Which wasn't overvalued...
Please, can you be more petty and stupid? Bringing up that crap during this horrible case?
@@Overlord277No one mentioned anything about the crime committed, or the defendant, except you. The only thing that was said was that the lawyers in both instances were similarly rude and unprofessional. No one is trying to say that the crimes committed by Trump are even remotely comparable.
@@ross-carlsonTrump is rich you know. He has plenty of money so you don’t need to feel bad asking him for rent considering he clearly lives rent free in your mind at the moment 🤣 I haven’t voted in the presidential elections for the past few years now so I don’t care much for politics one way (“left”) or the other (“right”), but literally no one was talking about that man before you did. People like you might as well be keeping him relevant despite clearly hating him 😂
I’m shocked she didn’t hold either of them in contempt
For what?
for not following simple orders from the judge lol@@user-qm9ot3gm8w
For not complying with the direction of the judge...multiple times... and in so doing disrespecting the court...thats what contempt is!
Absolutely! @@robfinch1522
@@robfinch1522 if what they did is not contempt, I don't know what it is. Simply challenging her again and again after the judge has dismissed a request would qualify as contempt - "oh, now that you've asked me for the 10th time, yeah now I will say yes". Those are not lawyers, they're clowns.
I'm shocked the judge had to repeat herself severally. She gave them too many privileges.
Find them in contempt and lock their asses up.
I would have said it twice, when he kept talking, then bailiff woulda carried his ass out
Not a fit judge. As most aren't. Egotistical power tripper. Bringing all that unneeded emotion and high strung energy into the situation. And we wonder why
@@slimpickin7999 bruh she was perfect throughout this entire trial. The defense was so far out of line that they’re lucky to even keep their jobs, idk what she could’ve possible done better
Well then perhaps u should stroll on over to the Brooks trial. Lmao. If you find this 'shocking' I wonder how you'll find the degree of patience that judge endures
….bringing up the judges children in any context in court is probably the dumbest thing I’ve heard a lawyer say.
The context made sense, some had mentioned the attorneys kids and the judge wanted to ignore it
Ignore it? I blatantly recall the judge saying that the defense could have all the time they needed by writing their objections…..the disrespect comes from defense and their disregard to address the issue at a later date through official means as the judge instructed.
@@drawyourcrayola she was emotional and no good come from a emotional judge making emotional decisions…
@Slimmeato Mat if she was emotional she'd have hit them with contempt
@@cmbsr4851 it’s levels to it
I have never seen such disrespect for a judge. Absolutely mind blowing
They don’t take her serious she gets defensive to easily , she shouldn’t try to argue and instead take action
It must be humiliating for a grown man to be sent to the naughty corner.
LMAO RIGHT
😂😂😂😂😂
"No one in this courtroom has had to endure what we had to endure". With victim families in the courtroom. Unbeleivable.
Right? I'd be like "um do you wanna think about what you JUST said!?"
Arrogance overload
Bunch of narcissistic a holes
Like it or not... the statement is a fact.
@@verabolton You said it. He is totally arrogant with a disgusting and wicked heart.
The strangest thing here is, that the lawyers actually think their behaviour helps their client.
Right 😂crazy stuff
The judge is way outta line
@@mikeherrera5302 She isn't.
By now the case was lost. This was an attempt to badger the judge and cause a mistrial or gain ammunition for an appeal.
It's called bullying
I can't believe she didn't throw either of them into contempt. That's insanity.
she lost her job because of how unprofessional she was during this long trial lol.......
Why?
@@sploomwhale9424 LIAR! She resigned! You gotta lie to look good and gain attention! It's very hard for a judge to lose their job.. you must be young and not know much
@@spoonypoon7998 when did i say she was fired? she resigned becuase of how many people were embarrassed by her performance. and many people involved were threatening to sue her.
@@sploomwhale9424 You said she lost her job and she didn't lose her job she resigned there's a big difference that's not losing your job that's giving up your job and guess what people can't Sue judges
I understand that everyone deserves a defense to the best of the attorneys’ ability but these guys are absolutely repulsive.
how? there doing there job.....
Why cuz the defense won….
@@sploomwhale9424 doing their job means openly laughing at grieving parents, making joke faces with their client, making violent statements about the judges children and literally sticking their middle finger up at the judge for calling out their atrocious behavior? Explain how that’s “doing their job.”
@@user-qm9ot3gm8w good to know you’re pro-mass murderer. But I’m talking about them openly laughing at grieving parents and that one lawyer who literally flipped them off and then further demeaned them in the name of her “providing a defense” for a despicable client.
@@jonathangill6584 is this your first time watching a court case? This is how the justice system works lol. Also you do realize this woman literally lost her job because of how unprofessional she was. Literally google it.
This literally felt like a 1st grade classroom. I cannot believe how childish these lawyers were. Wow.
Well she is speaking to them like children and saying stuff like “I feel” herself lol
Plus it’s a show trial or kangaroo court anyways. It’s meant to be dazzling and distracting. Just like the original shooter drill..
She even slips and gives it away “spectacle” she calls it
@@CoercedJab let me geuss.... you watch Alex jones..........
Have to wonder how many lawyers and doctors have personality disorders.
@@CoercedJab She's speaking to them like children because their small brains appearently can't comprehend anything else, in fact they can barely comprehend being spoken to like children.
"No one in this court had to endure what we had to endure." that sentence right there was the most disgusting thing, extremely self-centered and childish.. They've had to endure nothing compared to most other people in that court.
@@CoercedJab - get help
It is unbelievable how often she had to say "sit down" and they still tried to argue. That is so disrespectful.
I'm amazed she didn't throw them out for contempt of court... so utterly disrespectful and disgusting behaviour
It's because she's a woman and a pretty one with no wrinkles. That's why.
Seriously, like even I was yelling at him through my screen, “SHUT YOUR MANCHILD SELF UP AND SIT THE HELL DOWN!”
@@BubbyBrew I thought so too! ... I bet they wouldn't dare treat a man like this
@@BubbyBrew it's because they were trying to get the case dismissed. They were delaying by any means. Not only was it disrespectful to the court but more importantly to the families of the victims.
Soon as the attorney refused to not comply with the Judges orders, she should have held them in contempt of court.
She was too lenient. The judge should have but both lawyers in jail and fine them for contempt of court.
Correct.Tell them 3 times....call the Bailiffs.
THe Judge belongs in prison, and so do you for having a Russian profile
I have never before in my life seen people disrespect a judge like this. Is it her age? Her appearance? What made them keep questioning her?!
Clearly she’s not qualified to be a judge, she got the role through giving good head.
Im not usually someone to play this card but it’s probably bc she’s a woman, a young woman on top of that
Their lunacy?
@@WPC799 it's not. it's because she was inappropriate and because she failed to maintain order and decorum in proceedings. She stated they should have objected but that would have been bad for the defense to be seen to object to a victim statement instead she like most judges should have stepped in when the statement about the lawyers family was made and stated that it was inappropriate that is her job, she failed that's it nothing more. a seasoned judge would have known better. those are public defenders just doing their thankless job no one else wants to do period.
Largely her her-ness.
“No one in this court has had to go through what we have had to go through” says a guy whose kid wasn’t gunned down in a school
Two different situations though. He can't relate to the parents who's children were killed. The same way the parents of the children couldn't relate to the defense lawyers representing Cruz and the amount of hate they received for it. Just because they have it worse does not excuse him or his children being threatened.
I literally couldn't believe he said that...... I could understand just about everything else. But that was it for me. It's like, HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN why tf we're all HERE?
It's so tone deaf and oblivious, considering the circumstances. To make it about their difficulties. My jaw hit the floor when I heard that.
Has nothing to do with what he said. You’re a twit
That was tone deaf lol
Terrible Judge who will hopefully be in trouble for her actions today!
Justice is a joke. No Respect. No Integrity. Where is Justice! At this point arrest that lawyer for refusing to obey the Judge.
Umm, you might want to research the whole case before you look like an idiot here. The judge was reprimanded by the Supreme Court. She recently resigned and went to work at her father’s law firm. This case wreaks of judicial bias, especially when you consider he pled guilty on day one.
@HeatherRose2023 So? Her being reprimanded doesn’t mean anything. Who decided judicial bias? Another person which ARBITRARILY came to that decision. When you think about it, that is kind of hypocritical because no matter what metrics you try to follow to question a judge’s biasedness or affinity, those metrics were ARBITRARILY chosen to be used to come to an arbitrary decision to reprimand her. No matter how much you try to objectify laws, the fact that laws and rules were arbitrarily created will always undermine any objectivity behind them. But people who can’t think for themselves and blindly follow every rule “just because it’s a rule” have the inability to question them.
the supreme court??? HA!!! the supreme court too is getting to be a very bad joke @@HeatherRose2023
the thing about the supreme court is its NINE people that have handed down some questionable judgements that have pissed off MILLIONS of people do the math nine people versus MILLIONS there aint enough cops to handle the problem the supreme court KNOWS this and yet theyre doing it anyway @@HeatherRose2023
Bro was was sent to the principals office as an adult😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
As a lawyer too lmaooo
The audacity for any of them to be talking about their children in front of families who lost their children in the most brutal horrible way
It’s unimaginable. I don’t know how they are staying calm in there.
Speechless 😢
Claire elizabeth Phack the judge. She is a heartless killer.
Certainly. I however, failed to see how her children were being threatened by the lawyer’s comment. She was childish and tyrannical and completely irrational.
@@arlarl5122 I think you should put your foot in your mouth. Any other judge would have destroyed the defense for making that kind of argument…
The fact that the Judge had to repeat her self and they didn’t respect her . She’s the highest authority in that room makes me mad!!
she should have ordered the sherrif too escort the lawyers too his seat
She didn't deserve respect.
@@Yoseman1 why?
@@drakebell5649 She was one of the most biased judges in a case that I've ever seen. Public defenders are over-worked and under-paid, and don't need a grandstanding judge to discipline them for nothing more than public approval.
Authority?!?! 🤣 You're a puppet.
What a great judge standing her ground and talking to the defence like little children , just what they deserve.
Um, judges are meant to be impartial and professional. This behaviour is why she was reprimanded and resigned as a judge. You aren't supposed to act like this.
and yet she was formally reprimanded for it and now has since retired.
@@gregmumbai333 the LAWYERS are meant to be professional , what planet are you living on ?!
@@SigynIwaldidottir.7498I don't get what you are aguing with me about here. I was just pointing out that the judge was behaving unprofessionally. Everyone later including the judge herself agreed with this.
As for the lawyers I think they certainly made some mistakes but a lot of what they are saying here was reasonable. They just made the point that it should be out of line to target them by talking about their family members and the judge would not like that happening to her. She really didn't and then misrepresented that as an attack against her.
What good is a “contempt” charge if you don’t use it in UNBELIEVABLY disrespectful moments like these? 🤷🏻♂️
It is astounding to me how they would refer to their children being in harm when they are representing a child murderer.
Right I thought the same thing and assumed you was crazy.
Public defender. Meaning they have no choice. 🤦🏻 anything else you wanna say while you’re talking outta your ass?
So not everyone has the right to a proper defence?
@@unidahl5821 I mean if you want to defend a child killer go crazy but with all the evidence in there face there's no real proper defense, just up there looking despite
Exactly
Wtf? Is that normal for a Judge to be ignored several times when they’ve told someone to be quiet, more than once?! Seriously major respect for the judge having to put up with those clowns
Honestly it’s the judge who’s acting like a child. The court or the judge did nothing about them talking about the lawyers child. But if they were to talk about the judges child, they would do something then, I’d bet! So the lawyer was right for calling her out. PERIOD.
@@ChillandVersatile its the lawyers job to object to witness testemony ...lol
@@ChillandVersatile no he wasnt if had an issue with the comment he could of said somthing abt on the side not in the middle of a case about someone who killed 17 ppl him bringing that up is crazy
@@ChillandVersatilewhy didn't the defendant's lawyers object then? They missed multiple chances.
not at all, emotional female, thats why women shouldnt have power.
The craziest thing is how long it takes to get a sentence for someone like Nikolas Cruz
Judge will likely be disbarred. She failed, & she completely missed the point & meaning behind what the man on the left said. It had nothing todo with her kids, everything todo with what someone allegedly said about his.
It was obvious the lawyers were forced to work defense, & for the judge, this case was extremely traumatic.
She resigned from the court after being found guilty of multiple conduct violations during this trial. She was also issued a public reprimand. To be fair to her, most circuit court judges will never have to preside over such a high-profile case in their entire career, but she still handled herself unprofessionally and sadly did a lot of damage to the reputation of women in the judicial positions.
"no one in this court as had to endure what we’ve had to endure" I actually can't believe he said that in front of the family, who's children was tragically murdered by a soulless loser. pure disgusting.
Why are these comments so ignorant? This judge was out of line and was investigated for misconduct and eventually resigned.
From wiki:
On June 2, 2023, the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission found that Scherer violated many rules governing judicial conduct during Cruz's trial. Scherer "unduly chastised" public defender Melisa McNeill and her team, wrongly accused one Cruz attorney of threatening her child, and improperly embraced members of the prosecution team after the trial's conclusion. The Commission recommended a public reprimand for Scherer.[12] The public reprimand was issued the next month.[13]
You’re very misinformed. This judge is the most unprofessional I’ve ever seen. Pure hysteria. She resigned later after an investigation.
From wiki:
On June 2, 2023, the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission found that Scherer violated many rules governing judicial conduct during Cruz's trial. Scherer "unduly chastised" public defender Melisa McNeill and her team, wrongly accused one Cruz attorney of threatening her child, and improperly embraced members of the prosecution team after the trial's conclusion. The Commission recommended a public reprimand for Scherer.[12] The public reprimand was issued the next month.[13]
EXACTLY!!
@@codectified exactly what that sleazy lawyer wanted, judges are not robots, her having to resign doesn't mean anything, as humans we can see who clearly is in the wrong here.
@@xoxoxovaivaivai they are not robots but they are paid to be professional. If they don't do their job correctly they can't be entrusted with their position.
"Your honor, the families of the 17 people that our client murdered in cold blood are really making our client look bad. Can you please tell them not to be so mean? It's so disrespectful."
Are you kidding me when did he say that
I assume you are being sarcastic 😉 🙂
Why was she so full of hate towards that poor negro man.
Oppression is always wrong and so is the oppressor, and who can deny that the negro is systematically oppressed and she with her whiteness is the one oppressing him.
She needs to apologize and step down or immediately be fired.
@animepower1576I I think he's talking about when he said no one on our defense had to endure what they had to endure in this courtroom. What he's saying is that was his way of saying that, basically.
They deserve every bit of disrespect they get
they should of been held in comtempt and locked up for a few days to remind them they arent in charge
DUDES R SO DISRESPECTFUL TO WOMEN IN WORK THIS IS CRAZY
The fact that these lawyers weren't held in contempt is mind boggling.
Not really, they'll argue the contempt in the appeal
Contempt? For what specifically? Not being "nice" or "likeable" is not grounds for a contempt citation. Perhaps you should have some small understanding of subjects you choose to opine upon.
However, I am a strong supporter of free speech so please, opine away, but you are making a good case for the sorry state of education in your country as you do.
Cheers mate
✌😂🍻🍻
@@maxzorin9425 Not following the judges orders, over & over & over & over. The fact that she didn't have the deputies haul both of them to jail shows how feckless she really is. A courtroom isn't a free speech forum otherwise people could just get up there & filibuster all day everyday. The judge is charge of the courtroom or at least is supposed to be, this on isn't, much like that one in WI with the guy that drove his car into the crowd.
@@11C1P Just a thought.. what does a fulsome and vigorous defence look like to you? AND as you are obviously ignorant of the law... the defence was steering toward grounds for mistrial AND/OR laying basis for appeal. IT's THEIR JOB. The idiot judge should be subject to review by whatever body supposedly reviews judicial conduct on the bench. I am sure that Florida has a code of conduct for its judiciary.
@@maxzorin9425 Pretty simple- when the judge tells you something, and you are in fact professionally out of line- you just do what the judge says. She told them numerous times that they could put anything (complaints etc) in writing as much as they want. DUH- I guess what the statement you made is very indicative of the state of education in YOUR country...Cheers, mate (and check-mate as well...)
The amount of times that man tried to speak over her and refused to take a 'no' is disgusting
iTs DiSgUsTiNg
He’s doing his job as a public defender
He's entitled.
@@juanjordan6878 His job is to abide by her rulings and if he doesn't like it, he can walk down the road to the appeals court
@@avgfree21 True, but the judge was a little weak and emotional. She acted like a spoiled child.
The defense won this case so hard, they got him a life sentence (the best possible outcome they could have) and got the judge reprimanded by the Supreme Court and forced to resign LOL
The amount of disrespect shown to this judge was incompresible. If she was a male judge they would not be treating her this way. I apologize for these men treating you so badly your Honor!
Extremely disrespectful.
I wouldn't bet on that .
They treat her the way that high school kids treat their substitute teachers it’s insane!!! 😳🤦🏻♀️
she's tough though and didn't give an inch💪
Right? And still there are misogynists in the comments trying to degrade her. It’s obvious her patience was tried one too many times in this trial.
She kicked a lawyer out of court for saying that she probably would have heard it (referring to the statements she was pretending to not have heard), if it was her kids. She then accused the defense attorney of a felony by saying he threatened her kids (which never happened).
She has been overly emotional, and has never had control of the courtroom.. i cant imagine why everyone is so impressed with her, other than that the defendant is so hateable..
The accuracy 😂
@@lolawants2008 you're a misandrist
If a judge tells you to sit down you sit the hell down. The level of disrespect these people have is baffling
It’s not disrespect. Defence counsel has the right to make arguments. She is just dismissing them blinded with emotion
@@mattrodriguez6469Ah yes, the woman is irrational and emotional, she can’t be taken seriously… please listen to yourself 🤦🏻
@@rubensanchezramirez7028 Couldn’t have said it better myself
Matt is only in the 9th grade. Give him a break
@@rubensanchezramirez7028 she acted unprofessionally by saying the attorney threatened her children he just was unhappy with a comment made to his children any rational person would see she’s being unprofessional and not keeping order in the court on both sides the reason cruz is laughing and giggling is because she’s not being hard on him enough and the same goes for the other side
Boy, this gave me flashbacks to when my children were little, and they just keep coming back and coming back and wouldn’t take no for an answer until I finally said, just stop and walked away. That poor judge.
Outrageous abuse of the judge and her authority. Definition of contempt of court.
The lack of respect for the judge, victims families, and so on is baffling. What has happened to the world?!
Democrats happened. They like using other people to this level of overtness.
Only In America
Dont pull the world into it ........America is NOT the world , I know , hard to believe .
A bunch of narcissistic lawyers
@@susanna8612 No it happens all over the world. If you give me a country I can pull up multiple times from said country that a lawyer was out of line or a court room was a circus just from a quick Google search
Between this and the Darrell brooks case, I’m absolutely stunned at the levels of disrespect people dare to show a judge and courts. Unbelievable.
Me too been watching both. So much respect for both judges
This is the natural consequences of the increasing lawlessness that has been allowed over the past few years and in some cases (BLM riots, Antifa, etc) promoted with no absolutely no consequences. It's just now seeping its way into our courtrooms, but it's no different than what's already been going on in the streets of every American city. Diminishing respect for law and order and increasing entitlement to do whatever the hell you want to do.
Yes these judges have way more patience than I would have
I agree, Emma, both very disrespectful, but the responses of the judges are on a completely different level. Judge Dorrow (Brooks case) much more professional in my opinion.
I'm worried that others will follow suit in future cases. I respect the hell out of the judges, but I think its going to breed more dipshits like this in the future.
God bless yall on what yall do always from Jeff
If I were that Judge, I'd have that last attorney taken into custody by the bailiffs, for directly disobeying the order to go SIT down!
It's obvious these lawyers don't respect her as the Judge. Good on the Judge for standing up for herself and her court! They really thought she would back down, wow...
she's a women and over reacted as always. this is why women judges are just ew
It’s because she’s attractive, so they’re trying to downplay her
@@alphathe4760 that's not it. It's the heavy stripper makeup she has on. You would think she's going to the club, not a court room. Completely inappropriate.
@@pokinapllu4781 that's just a idiotic statement. Her makeup isn't heavy or inappropriate. The Judge for the Wakusha parade driver wore more makeup, and still not inappropriate. It's the lack of respect for authority that obviously that law firm has.
Once she got emotional she lost the argument
Deep respect to the judge. She's parenting the lawyers like misbehaving children.
What did she do?
@@jandersson724 lol
@@jandersson724 Did you not watch the vid?
It wasn't enough. They should have held in contempt and disbarred, especially the arrogant jerk who flipped the middle finger at her. Examples need to be made and this kind of outrageous behavior must be nipped in the bud. Failing to do so runs a very high risk of being perceived as weakness by those thugs. Now that the foot is in the door, it's only a matter of time before it happens again.
@@JohnDoe-yt1wb It is called free speech for the judge too. The lawyer deserves the treatment he gets. He should be held in contempt for be a disgrace.
The judge needed to hold him in contempt of court. She was way too nice to him.
"No one in this court had to endure what we had to endure." he says, while there are people sitting in THIS court who had members of their families murdered, by his client...
These guys are outright disgustingly vile in their attempt to force a mistrial.
"i think I'm being treated unfairly because people were mean to me" - he says concerning actual victims
Yes I found that comment absolutely astounding tbh .... The lack of self awareness is quite stunning
What a piece of garbage.
I think everyone of those defense attorneys should be locked up along with him. They’re all garbage.
Well stated!
So disrespectful. Are they REALLY trying to victimize themselves for having to sit through the statements made by the true victims?? Absolutely disgusting and pathetic.
Defense didnt kill the children in the school. Defense doing their job representing their clients and the families attacking them personally for that.
This is improper, and the judge just making excuses and grandstand for the camera
I'm disgusted by Cruz and some of their behavior. Their job is to defend their clients though. We all have that right. Cruz pleaded guilty, so he was always going to die in prison. I don't think it's appropriate to personally attack the defense, prosecution, judge or jury in this case.
@@hiddeninthewires2308 Is flipping people off part of their job? This defense team is 🗑
@@hiddeninthewires2308 No, it is not improper. what IS improper is the defense lying and making themselves the VICTIMS!
@@hiddeninthewires2308 so giving the middle finger isn’t improper? Boy, go to your corner and play with your legos, you’re too emotional.
The judge is honestly way out of line. The defense brought up an issue, the judge dismissed it, but then when the lawyer asked her to put herself in his shoes its suddenly "threatening my children"? When did he "threaten" her children?
People are allowing their hate for the defendant to cloud their judgement here. The defense lawyers have a job to do, and they're trying to do that job. They should get the same respect as any other lawyer
he did not threaten her children. he threatened her with her children.
whether it was threatening or not, he was told SEVERAL times to move on from the topic at hand and to drop it, but he continued.
plus, if you watch other videos, this defense team has been absolutely unprofessional and ridiculous this entire trial. there is video evidence that melissa mcneil, one of the shooter’s attorneys, literally FLIPPED OFF THE JUDGE. whether they are public defenders or not, they are expected to uphold a certain level of professionalism and they failed to do
so.
@@miloshroom1That wasn’t Melisa McNeill. It was another attorney, Tamara Curtis. But she wasn’t flipping off the judge. Court was not in session and the judge wasn’t in the room. She was flipping off one of the cameras.
Lawyer is lucky she didnt hold him in contempt. Refusing to be dismissed could easily be taken as contempt of court.
“No one in this courtroom had to endure what we’ve had to endure!?”… Are you serious! What a disgusting narcissist to say that comment in front of these poor grieving families! God bless this judge! We need more like her!
No you REALLY DON'T! What you actually NEED is far far fewer emotional haemophiliacs in positions of power.
@@maxzorin9425 why is it only men calling this "emotional"?
@@maxzorin9425 The defense team is injecting emotion in nonsensical ways. Please show where the judge got emotional instead of acted with the correct level of stern? Grow up. A man doing what this judge just did would be called tough but fair, not emotional.
I don’t think that’s a form of narcissism. Narcissism, narcissistic and narcissus are misused a lot today.
@@maxzorin9425 You have to be kidding me. Men are FAR more emotional than women could ever be. We don't see women shooting up schools cuz of their lil wee wee and fees fees getting hurt.
This is disgusting. I cant imagine the grieving families having to endure such childish behaviors
The Judge was overly emotional and then she stated “her kids were being threatened “ ridiculous
@@commonsense3921 its both of them not just one or the other
@@commonsense3921 Of all the people with law degrees in that room, the only person who brought up the children of another practicer of law was the defense attorney.
Fake Shooting , Stupid .
@@thomasdellarosa1960 fake shooting…….?
Man she was a couple minutes away from bailiffs taking those two lawyers away in cuffs for contempt of court. How stupid to bring up the Judges kids.
She is more suited to be a school teacher, one of the worst judges I have seen
The fact that she had to tell them to go sit down 10 times is crazy. In the 1990s after the second time that would a been a automatic arrest
Was more than 10
She wanted no reasons for anyone to call a mis trial.
Good on him for standing up. Literally and figuratively, for the fifth amendment of the citizens.
@@CloveCoast Judge tells you to shut up and sit down, you shut up and sit down!
@@andrewferrauiolo4618 no, that's just humiliation, rudeness, and tyranny, if you are so cuc*ed that you find that to be fine then that's a serious problem.
the fact that this court was so disrespectful that she had to tell a grown man to go into timeout… it’s so embarrassing it’s almost funny
the fact that this is our system and people are cheering the judge acting like a Karen is somewhat hilarious
@@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER right?! What planet are these people on. She acted like a clown
@@kaseyc9459 Dude please. I can't take these comments anymore. Where has the common sense gone?? I can only find them in the replies. The judge overreacted.
@@moth300 lol. Exactly. And complimenting her when she went off the rails.
@@MrOBJECTIVEOBSERVER Exactly; she’s treating this like a daycare, not like a court hearing. If an attorney steps out of line, you don’t scream your head off at them like they’re your 4 year old child. That’s a complete disrespect for all the people that have to listen to you whine.
Wow! They are so lucky she has so much patience.
No one threatened that judges children. He said she wouldn't like her children mentioned any more than they do. And she said she might not have children because she might be barren? How about not wanting to have children???
She is clearly a mother with the way she handled all these children in the courtroom!
I think that she's hot as hell!
Handling grown man-children lol
@@mcleandaniel how did she allowed that?
This is not justice when a mass murderer is placed on the stages of the world and given the publicity and fame of his evil. This was his ultimate goal in life. In this type of incident where guilt of killing 17 innocent people is proven beyond a shadow of doubt. This type of incident should start with the charge of a death penalty. All subsequent hearings in court merely prolong the pain and agony of those who lost their loved ones which play into the hand of what that killer wanted to achieve.
Cruz should have been considered a case for late abortion as well as for any future mass murderer. Don't play into their game for fame and make a spectacle of seeing the pain anguish and loss of those who lost their loved ones. Cruz should never be allowed to hear the testimony of those parents. That is what he wanted to hear and witness.
What we learned from his background upbringing circumstances and mental status the various behavioral reports and criminal behavior should have been reason for authorities to monitor and to Isolate him from society persay. How he was permitted to purchase a high powered rifle is astounding and there is most certainly a lack of control by government in this department. In retrospect of protecting children in the future, access control must include metal detection as well as face recognition for starters. Those windows of the classroom should have been bullet proof and most of those kids would be alive today.
Man-Child: "May we have a brief recess?"
Mother of actual children: "No"
Man Child walks away sad
She radiates such teacher energy and it’s so funny watching these “professionals” get talked down to like that.
I wish she had just pounded the gavel and sent them to jail for contempt
If I had to guess her profession, judge would be last on the list lol
@@georgepoly4842 right? Idk why people are praising her, she’s just as unprofessional as the defense.
She sounds a bit insecure and unauthoritative, to be honest. She's clearly still learning.
@@YourCreepyUncle. My guess is that if you’re a public Judge sending criminals away, you really, REALLY would rather the public not know you have a family they can take revenge on. Honestly sounds reasonably protective and now that information of hers is compromised forever.
I wish she was MEANER. It's been heart wrenching to watch the families speak.
This court is a joke
Dude she literally is treating these 100k+ a year people like actual toddlers and I'm here for all of it, her children had no bearing on the trial nor did they need to be brought up completely unprofessional and unwanted
His children shouldn't have been mentioned, but she "didn't notice" and he should move on. Yet all he did was say if it had been her child mentioned she would've noticed and she blew off the handle accusing him of threatening her children which he clearly did not do. Completely unprofessional and hypocritical on her part.
He meant what if it's her children as an example.
@@sabbatarian_muslim correct plus it was obvious she wanted the case to end quickly.
100k+ a year lol. What does that have to do with anything anyway? Your plumber makes 100k+ year.
I wouldn't be surprised if this outburst and hypocrisy is used by the defense later to claim the murderer didn't get a fair trial. Her inability to do her job professionally might end up costing the taxpayers a lot in appeals and possible retrial if the defense can successfully show they didn't get a fair trial because of her.
I'm having serious flashbacks from middle school watching this. The fact that these are grown adults acting like this in a court of law is insane, and the fact that the judge didn't hold anyone in contempt is amazing. Props to her for showing as much patience as she did.
Um.. are you referring to the same video I just watched? She's acting like a child ... I'm still trying to determine when the so-called threat to her children was made. Hoping she is barren.... imagine what her offspring would go through?,,!
I don't understand how that fat tub of lard who calls himself a lawyer got this far in life by not understanding the hierarchy. This is what happens when you let weak, immature adults hold positions like this.
I would have given him30 days in the county for his brief recess
You should see a parliament from inside. It's insanity.
AMERICAN COURTHOUSE DEMURE SOMETIMES GOES TOO FAR WITH THE PRESIDING JUDGE(S)!!!
THEY SOMETIMES "FORGET" THAT ANY LAWYER CAN/SHOULD RAISE CHALLENGES TO SOMETHING A JUDGE INCITES THE JURY TO THINK OF AS CORRECT,, WHILE IT ISN'T!!!!
IT'S ONLY MY OPINION,, BUT PERSONALLY I AM ALMOST CERTAIN THAT THIS JUDGE WAS BIASED
IN FAVOR OF THE PLAINTIFFS!!! I'M ALMOST 70, AND YOU CAN READ PEOPLE'S FACES, AND THEIR EYES
MANY TIMES GIVE THEM AWAY AS BEING PREJUDICE!!!!
This level of disrespect of the judge would not have occured if it was a male judge. This is sexism and misogyny on full display.
She’s probably the most beautiful Judge that I’ve ever seen. 😊❤
I’m a teacher, and this reminds me of how I need to repeat myself at times to 6th graders! Seriously, these lawyers are incredibly unprofessional. The judge shouldn’t have to repeat herself that many times, my goodness.
me too.
people of all ages nowadays think just because you keep asking the same thing over and over, you should get what you want.
(and it's working - parents too tired to parent are creating a world of toddlers)
@@brmbkl absolutely correct!
Lol!! This is crazy.🤪 I actually believe my 6th graders are more behaved.
@@mcleandaniel
she mentioned that she hadn't heard any remarks about their children, if any were made. she also notes that the lawyers themselves were bringing their own children into it. they're the reason their children were even addressed in the court room, because they decided to bring them up themselves. regardless, it's a bit odd that these lawyers have the immaturity to talk back, give the middle finger toward the court, and joke and laugh about the issue. it's especially odd considering they seem to idealize their kids so much, considering they're fraternizing with a man who took seventeen lives, and injured seventeen others-most of those being children. not to mention, with the middle finger situation, they [referring to a singular persons.] never apologized for it. they said they hadn't known the camera was on them, and that they were sorry they'd been caught, but never addressed, nor apologized, for choosing to flip off the court, and the affected families inside it.
Who gives a s*** okay Nicholas Cruz is enjoying it 100%. He's probably causing this commotion with his psychic energy and when you got that kind of ability all you got to do is just cause it you ain't got to do anything just project your thoughts and people are starting to act loony being don't even know why go see the movie cabin in the woods when those kids wanted to leave the cabin they couldn't when they get to the door they stopped now I left out a spoiler there so you got to go see the movie and see what I'm talking about when one guy so you know what I need to leave and he got to the door he couldn't turn the door knob and set back down so go see the movie to see what I'm talking about cabin in the woods
"No one in this courtroom had to endure what we have."
I'd say the parents in that courtroom had to endure losing their child to the psychopath they are defending.
I wonder what it was that they were enduring? Guess that's what happens when you talk out your ass. You end up embarrassing yourself and your profession.
This event shows there as a big problem i nthis country when it come to bully
a single one person get bullied and then he came back after commiting a massacre because no one wason his side when he needed to, this and the fact that everyone can have a gun is a big problem
@@AmicusAdastra How do you make any logical leap from being bullied to killing random kids? He was a psycho loser that wanted to drag others down to his level.
Correct, but did they have to endure what he did? They obviously endured worse but his statement was not about the level of the thing being endured but the difference of it
The judge was wrong for that. Nobody threatened her children. He was showing her what she’s allowing in her courtroom.
Yep
Imagine being in a room with a guy who murdered 17 people and you're the asshole
“no one in this courtroom had to endure what we had to endure”. wow. i can’t believe he actually said that while standing in a room filled with teenagers who watched their friends and themselves get shot at and families who will forever be grieving over their children. people who had no idea they’d be heading to a war zone instead of a history class. the audacity of this man. he genuinely believes having to listen to criticism over defending a child murderer, not only equates, but is worse than what these victims went through. shame on him
edit: wow my comment really attracted the bottom scum of society. to the decent people in the thread, don’t reply to the trolls or they’ll keep replying and showing us how idiotic a human can get
@mystic wolf I agree with everything you wrote. He is selfish and ridiculous and heartless.
Ikr does he even know what his client did
I'd like to second the crap outta this comment. Thank you in advance.
Then again. We are talking about the death penalty here. That is not something to take lightly even if they did commit the crime.
@@SS-yj2le Just like taking those children's lives wasn't something that should have been taken lightly.. but ok
If your lawyers are ever, at any point in the legal process, unprofessional: drop them immediately. A bad lawyer will lose you the case faster than a bad case will. They should never be argumentative or talking over people at any point, especially with the judge. Court is a formal debate room with rules, not the principle's office.
Criminal defense is important, but any lawyer defending a shooter such as Cruz, is already questionable in terms of morals. I'm not the least surprised by his actions.
They are public defenders lol
@@newjerseyyouth4853 It's harder to change public attorneys, but you still can. Especially if it's not just some personal matter and you feel they are not representing you very well. You will have to make the request to a judge. Public attorneys are held to the same standards of conduct as any other attorney.
If it's true they shot the middle finger up to the court, they should have been immediately excused. This defendant is not getting a professional defense, which is his right. This video right here is mistrial fodder.
I DESPISE smart@$$ mysogynistic men who have the audacity to disrespect and interrupt this judge, the rule and the dignity of the court. If I had been in charge, contempt and jail for them.
Im sorry are these defense attorneys or toddlers who misbehave when the teacher gives them a time out in the corner?
What the hell? Hold them in contempt of court and remand them into the courthouse jail. She was way too lenient. A male judge wouldn't have tolerated this much abuse. SMH.
Man, this is so sad. I can't believe the insensibility of these people towards the judge and the victim's families. Utterly disgusting.
Naga, bro?
That judge is out of control and an and original baby. She shouldn’t hold any power she said “I” about a million times.
WhT a disgusting person she is. How dare they do the same thing to her that was done to someone else in the court. Didn’t they know she’s above that?
She gives women judges a bad name. She needs to tone down the emotion. IdgF about her kids. But she can’t be that mad about it when it’s her and not someone else she was stupid and walked right into that one. Efff her
never had women judge, this will happen. Bring emotional to court room like a kindergarten teacher. FOOL JUDGE
@Gogu Chelu okay robot npc
@Gogu Chelu A good sentiment, but honestly a judge getting pissed off or annoyed in court is pretty common, man or woman.
Why isn’t he in jail for contempt? Why doesn’t this Judge have a stronger backbone?
Is this a school?
Such unprofessional conduct and disrespect, straight up refusal to listen to the judge!
For him to try and ask for a recess 3 times like he could intimidate her into changing her answer blew me
Yea blew your mind him trying to do his job. Lol if the judge was a man the same exact thing would happen and no one would say anything. Just another day in court
Because it was a Man.
I know, I felt like cursing him out, too! They both need to reprimanded
This is what my TODDLER does when she wants something. It's so upsetting to see adults do this.
Thank God she said no. The guy in the gray suit had to go sit down like a child it was so funny. What an idiot, first he puts his hands down on the table like he was a badass and gonna fight her, the African American guy never asked for a sidebar and then claimed he did. What morons and then to have to defend a killer. YOU GO GIRL. She is so beautiful too.
Imagine talking over a judge and disrespecting her authority in court. I've never seen anything like it. They should be disbarred immediately.
disbarred wtf 😳
@@highestkiller4627 yes.
Yes you can talk over a judge if you find it necessary. They’re human just like us and they’re not always right!
That would been contempt back in the day
Honestly, there have always been SOME people like this out there, but I feel like the Trump movement has made it far worse. This is exactly how he loved to behave - shout over people, make it all about himself, force his will on everyone else, cause he knew he wouldn't have to face real consequences.... and to a lot of people that had that type of personality, but didn't think they'd get away with acting on it, seeing that sort of bluster from the "leader of the free world" was like getting permission to do and say the things they'd previously kept inside.
I would have had him removed after the second time she ordered him to sit down. Not only out of line, he was very rude indeed.
I'm disappointed in these clowns. I gotta agree with the Judge here. This is immature of any lawyer.
The judge lost her job over this. LOL. The lawyers were right and the state supreme court agreed.
She went full mom mode on them and it was incredible. Probably wasn’t a great idea to bring up her kids
I totally understand her switching. I'd switch for less. But she actually ended up sounding unprofessional herself. She should have kept her calm. As a judge.
@@AB-qd2yh i was thinking she was the one out of line. She was like a battle axe
As a Judge, her personal feelings are supposed to remain in an anterior room. Especially when no one in any way threatened or even referenced her children specifically. All they said was "if they had said it about your children, you would have noticed it".
How dare you for calling her a mom
@@troybeebe8372 this was the EXACT conclusion I came to. I feel she abused her power and didn’t at all listen to the, or attempt to refer back to the statement given in reference to “her children.” There was absolutely no threat given to them in any way. Just as she stated to the attorney she didn’t know he had children, how was he to know she had any? Clearly, once making his remark it was taken as a direct threat to her children it was made known she did have children, but his statement was made to prove a point and honestly, it proved she either wasn’t listening to details that clearly aren’t relevant to the case at all at the end of the day, or whatever was supposedly said about the male lawyers children…wasn’t factually said and then on to be be heard, by her. Regardless, I think she abused her power to more and not only overreacted but did it in such a way it “highlighted” it!
The way he was talking to her makes me rage. She's telling him to go sit down and he keeps using a condescending, placating tone and ignoring what she said multiple times 🙄
Yeah because you dont just tell lawyers to sit down
I read his tone as extremely calm compared to the judge being obviously emotional. I'm not a lawyer, but he was highlighting that he asked for a sidebar so it wasn't the spectacle she didn't want.
@@Hotdog102 You would not have said this had this been a male judge you twig
He came at her from a told u so POV forgetting he can't school her. If he wanted to do calmly or not he should be sitting in her chair then.
@@Hotdog102 lol, BRIAN, a reaction like this isn’t “emotional”, it’s an appropriate reaction to a unethical, UNPROFESSIONAL, comment made in a public courtroom. you do not disrespect a judge in their courtroom, and you do not try and be condescending. it’s clear disrespect, the judge didn’t have to put up with that. for you to make it a gendered stereotype is INSANE. we get it Brian, women intimidate you 😂
No respect for the woman or the robe. That should have been a contempt charge.
The whole defence team were absolutely appalling. They should be ashamed of how they conducted themselves in court. If I was a family member of a victim I wouldn’t be able to hold back.
I hope that you would be able to hold back, just for the sake that you don’t need any trouble. I convey that in all love, peace, and harmony, for you, and yours.
Somehow, we still need to have faith in the current system.
@@launabanauna8958 This "system" is so laughable, it's a wonder they were able to get a conviction........
Freedom of speech
@Coconut Donut I am confused too
@@kaycee25 it doesn’t work quite like that dear. They’re public defenders.
The judge has been more than reasonable I'm surprised she did not find them in contempt.
She is not reasonable.
@@user-qm9ot3gm8w she IS reasonable and those defense attorneys are absolute disgustingly reprehensible. Straight up garbage in human form. And I’m not talking about their decision to provide a defense. I’m talking about the utter disrespect they flaunted around court, thinking they’re invincible.
They were all acting like children, including the judge. Her courtroom got out of hand way before this statement was made.
Yes, judges can be unprofessional too.
And that's the problem.
You want to argue when you were told to sit down. How many times do you have to be told?
"Go to the back of the room NOW." She should have never had to repeat herself so many times. They were disrespectful and I wish she could throw away their licenses. Imagine these men tried to bully the judge in her own courtroom, tried to force her to sidebar and distract from proceedings, tried to intimidate her. They are as cold-blooded as their client.
As cold Blooded as their client wow what a thing to say lets hope you feel good about yourself and that statement cause i think you need to go read what you just typed and go back to the video and take a rain check maybe next time!
She sounded like she was talking to a 6-year-old.
Exactly. But she is a female and they just don’t care. It’s disgusting to watch. Then ppl asks me why sometimes I speak like a man. Because there is no other way to talk and be heard. If we speak soft and gentle it does NO WORK.
Whoooaaa look out Zane is offended
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The lawyers are as disrespectful as their client. Totally zero respect. Well done to the Judge.
It it were an older male judge i bet that lawyer wouldnt have even said what he said
They won the case - they’re good lawyers, I’d hire them
@@streetracer2321 what are you even on about, he plead guilty. This is just his sentencing.
@@streetracer2321 advocates for child murderers
What a stupid statement, their client literally murdered 17 people. They are just doing their job given to them by our justice system. If they did not defend their client to the best of their ability there could be a mistrial. People demonizing them for doing their job are the problem.
Hold them in contempt
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I’ve never seen legal professionals talk back to the judge so much except for a tv show. I’m surprised the judge didn’t hold them in contempt
even on TV it doesn't go that far...
@@siesies000 Watch the Trump vs Biden debate
@Barrett i mean... they are the Judge..
She's a weak and ineffective judge
@Barrett they earn that level of responsibility. That's what it is, responsibility, not power.
That judge was EXTREMELY patient with that last attorney. She told him to "go sit down" too many times. She should have slapped a "contempt of court" charge on his azz and had the bailiffs remove him. He was WAY out of line.
Totally agree, 3 strikes and your out. I wonder if he would have argued the point with an old crusty male judge.
This man made Rottenborn looked like a saint
Are you volunteering to do all of the paperwork involved for that? Oh, and I’m sure you’ll attend the hearing or trial for that crime? Contempt is not something to just be thrown around for fun, you are naive.
@@DiamonDust but regardless, it was contempt of court given that she told him multiple times to go sit down and he was disobedient and disrespectful.
And he would have appealed it straight from his jail cell him being a lawyer and everything and then he would have helped every inmate in the pot or block judges don't like doing that s*** because that lawyer is going to get revenge by helping every inmate in that cell block that's why she didn't have him for contempt it's like throwing a match in a can of gasoline to lock up a lawyer for contempt not a good idea sheriff don't like it either because that lawyer would be helping inmate fire cases as a form of revenge sheriff's especially don't like it but when they get the order from the judge and lock a lawyer for contempt they got to comply with it but they will not put that lawyer in general population not because it makes going to do something not going to do nothing to him the inmates are going to protect that lawyer like gold while that lawyer helps every inmate in there file this file that okay now you this case do blah blah blah those inmates will be getting legal advice 24/7 and that would be emptying out the whole f****** pod, so you think that's a good idea to lock a lawyer for contempt no no my friend that's not a good idea the judge know that the sheriff know that by the time that inmate is doing time for contempt half the jail population is gone because he's filing paperwork on their behalf to get them out and that is the sweetest revenge. From the lawyer's point of view he charges for his work but since he can't get out what the hell for 30 days he going to free every mother f****** there and you think that's a good idea to lock him up if not I'm telling you what I know.
This beautiful judge is amazing and a true warrior at the court. I like to see how she is fighting for her children and the stupid behavior against her from the lawyers. Wel done judge! 🙂👍🙏
The fact that she had to step down for this is non sense. That lawyer or public defender was highly disrespectful
nothing wrong here. I'm sure you're all for it when it benefits you. As typical of humans.