Parkland father shreds Nikolas Cruz lawyers for their behavior: 'You should be ashamed'
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- Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2022
- Fred Guttenberg, the father of murder victim Jaime Guttenberg, gave a powerful victim impact statement during Nikolas Cruz's sentencing for killing 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. At one point Guttenberg directly addressed Cruz's defense team, accusing them of admitting to giving the middle finger during an earlier proceeding when they lost a ruling, but refusing to apologize and simply blamed the media for putting it on camera. Guttenberg also called for the resignation of Gordon Weekes, the head of the public defender's office, for his comments during the sentencing, when he asked the judge to limit what the victims could say about Cruz's defense team during their impact statements.
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It is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that that female lawyer tried to sneak in the middle finger and she laughed *with* a mass murderer - she should be disbarred IMMEDIATELY. I cannot even fathom that kind of behaviour.
Exactly and not just a mass murderer a mass CHILD murderer. Absolutely disgusting. Something like that is so dark and karma will get her.
I hope the Florida Bar Association takes action regarding the defense attorneys. Their behavior was disrespectful to the victims and their loved ones. I hope they rot in hell with their client.
@@kimma508 if enough people contact the bar association and complain they will very likely disbar her.
She's pure swine.
Won't be disbarred... definitely may be sanctioned or suspended though.
The fact that it took over 4 1/2 years for a verdict to finally be reached is absolutely ridiculous. This was not a fair and speedy trial.
The fair and speedy trial is for the benefit of the criminal/defendant, they can wave and delay it unfortunately
I agree, this lengthy process only emphasizes & burdens the pain & the traumas these families have to go through on a daily basis.
It should have taken 1 month. Not 4 1/2 years.
Covid
Well the rhoden murder trial has taken almost 5yrs but it could also be because of 8 people being murdered, with 4 murderers 2 put on trial..exactly 5yrs 2 the day Jake wagoner pled guilty and even his momma decided 2 take a guilty plea...literally leaving George Wagner and Billy Wagner..son and father 2 go on trial
This father stood there and delivered his speech with eloquence and class. I salute this man and on behalf of all of us, I'm deeply sorry for your loss.
Do you think the gun problem will ever stop in America ?
@@OyePapaJi it probably won’t for a very long time unfortunately. this country is full of narcissistic gun lovers.
The way the judge looks with so much empathy while he’s getting his feelings out makes my heart hurt. She makes him feel heard, she truly hears him, and despite all the pain he’s been through, he came in with an open mind and spoke his thought process and mind so eloquently.
This judge is amazing!!Beautiful,tough as nails with loads of compassion.
@@umarbentley4953 lol karen family complain more why dont you
Her empathy is what got her disqualified from hearing other cases! Judges are suppose to be FAIR AND NEUTRAL, NOT BIASED! These families need to GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON!
Get over the death of their children? There is no moving on from the death of a child.
@@lindalou6808 Society shouldn't have failed in getting Nikolas the help, he obviously needed!
“I have a broken heart, but I am okay.”
Wow. This father’s testimony is so powerful. All of the family’s speeches have been so beautiful. Their loved ones were all taken too soon.
He’s right in saying that Weeks should resign. That’s ridiculous conduct.
It's unreal that Americans even have to go through this you know it's it's really sad. It's like every city every 3 months there's going to be some bad tragic movie like this you know it's not right. 📡👽🇺🇸 RUN!!!
@@charlesincharge.5161 Men and their guns before kids in Murca.
@@charlesincharge.5161 He's a politician now, so I wouldn't get too worked up.
@@FD-qd7zy What? That doesn't make any logical sense.
@@crforfreedom7407 It doesn't make sense? US education obviously.
The way those lawyers were acting was sickening. Bless the children + families 🙏
To be fair I haven't seen much of the trial, but I really don't know how anyone can be mad at the lawyers. They're job is to represent and defend the defendant, because someone has to. It's they're job because everyone has the right to a fair trial.
Edit: When I made this comment I had not watched much of this trial. Afterwards I have seen a little bit more and I retract my original opinion. Their conduct has definitely been unprofessional.
@@OG-GHOST2 maybe not giggle and laugh, throw the bird finger at the families and judge, and propagating outrageous lies about the psychotic murderer. Their actions was atrocious.
@@teresajeffries3934 that lawyer was flipping off the cameras and despite your very normie brainwaves simpleton brain where you just grab on to and latch on to anything and everything that is public pop opinion you personally have no clue why that lady had her middle finger up and you damn sure have no proof at who it was intended for. If I was an attorney and a judge who's job it is is suppose to protect the Integrity of the court and all its officers on all sides I would not Blame her if she was flippingoff the judge. That emotional inept judge allowed civilian victims to personally attack and really proffesinally destroy lawyers who were doing nothing more or less than their assigned Job. In your alls sick communist perception Cruz did not deserve representation and what do you personally care who that lady was flippingoff? Are you not an adult? Do we as adults allow gestures to make us personally attack someone back? What happened to being professional and cordial?
@@OG-GHOST2 Even all other lawers are calling them out on their behaviour. You must be a fun person to be around pfffffff
@@teresajeffries3934 you or nobody gets to decide how anyone should or should not act. Those Public defenders have their own souls and their own minds. It would be immature petty and even ignorant to.say that person should not do XYZ and if so they deserved to be personally attacked? It goes to show how little millions of Americans know aboht how our courts operate. Because of the way our system us set up Cruz was entitled to friendly mutual logical attorneys who were "REPRESENTING HIM" NOTICE THE QUOTATIONS in representing him? If they do not befriend him and look at him as just another client they cannot represent him fairly. All this has done is expose how biased millions of American are. They look at it because their feelings that this or that should or.should not happen. That's not how the real world works
💔. A father’s intense pain. So brave. Our hearts go out to you, Sir.
I have always said “ If I lose my child, dig two graves because I won’t go on” These parents GO ON and have strength to be in a room with the murderer. Phenomenal. 💔
Dig three if someone else caused their death cause I am dragging them to hell
This father has been on their necks for years. Relentlessly advocating for Justice for his daughter. Whether it be in front of senate committees or news outlets-he’s never backed down. When I heard this indefensible killer didn’t get the death penalty, my heart broke for every family but his face came to my mind first. He’s turned his pain into advocacy. I truly pray for him and every family involved.
Plz explain why u would want someone to have the death penalty it's legit a get out of jail free card I swear ppl make 0 sense solve murder with murder bc my murder is just 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@OSPKeaZ Your statement speaks of equivalency of punishment. You have no differentiation between Justice and retribution. And it is not a get out of jail free card as you suppose. There is a judgement after this life that cannot be avoided. Take that into consideration.
He will be taken care of in prison if you know what I mean. If he was on death row it would be 20 years plus before this little scum bag got what he so richly deserves. He will be killed within one year of being in prison no matter how or what the Florida department of corrections takes to protect him.
@@lastfirst78 why would I there's nothing after death u die it's over lights out😂
@@OSPKeaZ please every man and woman that walks this earth fears death.
The fact that this man is creating a foundation that offers emotional support dogs for victims of gun violence made my heart flutter. AMAZING.
I’m crying for these parents. It hit me hard when Jamie’s father said he won’t be able to walk his daughter down the aisle.
I'm crying for these parents. It hit me hard when Jamie's father said he won't hard walk his daughter down the aisle.
You're not 'crying' so much that you can't post your oh-so-incisive comment, Einstein.
@@nickslick75 Was it just a bad day making you post all these hateful comments, or are you truly heartless
@@deb1161 I was just making an observation, Einstein. Just like you are. Don't cry!
@@nickslick75 Gotcha slick. No crying here 😘
I've never heard a victim's statement quite like this. This guy is really good at letting us feel his point of view.
It wasn't that good
Very well said Jane.
@@timopheim5479 better than yours.
I particularly liked the statement by Max Schachter - both gentlemen think alike !
@@timopheim5479 shut up dawg It’s not a film to critique.
The defense team should absolutely 💯 be ashamed of themselves. They behaved in an inhumane and disgusting way.
The real culprits are the three jurors that nullified the death penalty. May every conceivable misfortune in life, both big and small, follow them all of their days.
@@silverfishimperetrix4818 stop spreading hate!
@@mimi-lg8lo Aww, are you offended? GOOD.
Imagine doing your job right and getting berated for it. If they like it or not they had to defend him because its his constitutional right.
Just because you’re defending a killer doesn’t mean you can’t show compassion, respect and professionalism to the victims family. This monster confessed to killing 17 people so the lawyers should have reached out a hand to the families as well. Truly disgusting lawyers.
the fact that this case didn’t get the death penalty is absolutely MIND boggling. those poor families i can’t even imagine what they have to go through
My heart is aching for these poor people. The pain of losing your child is unbearable ( I lost a child to an un-diagnosed medical condition), but to have to sit in the room with someone who MURDERED your child- and listen to "excuses" for why they did it - must be heartbreaking. May they gain some peace for the future and whatever comfort they can find to move onward.
Sorry for your loss
@@Thatguy27250 t laywers ar mean he wasnt sick he knew what he was he doing .
Most people can't even begin to imagine what those parents have been through. To even imply that the defense team has endured more is unforgivable
They did get threats because they were forced to take the case... They didn't wan't it. But the state forced them. And the Judge didn't want to hear anything about it.
@@TemalCageman Exactly. They were appointed to the case, but all these ignorant people think the lawyers flew across the country just to defend Nikolas because they admired his actions. 🤦🏻♀️
@@AAP0000 no reasonable person who understands the basics of law thinks that, the dude in the video even admitted as much…
Developers get death threats over delaying video games… that’s just what happens with high profile and controversial events… that doesn’t mean the lawyers get to act like asses half of the trial.
Honestly, at least 2 of them should’ve been held in contempt imo… for their behavior and outbursts alone.
@@The.Nasty. They didn’t point the middle finger at the families, but they made that about them because they want to be the center of attention.
@@AAP0000 I’ll assume you’re trolling at this point because that’s a braindead comment.
The defense team should be held accountable for their ridiculous behavior.
I agree and the fact that the judge didn't hold them in Contempt for that behavior is sickening!
What's sickening was the way the judge allowed our judicial system and the members of that system to be openly and frequently attacked. THEY WERE NOT ON TRIAL. Their client was. One would be hard pressed to understand that by the comments permitted which is by all decorum in a legal proceeding: UNHEARD OF. So is a judge going out after and 'hugging' and mingling with the crowd after. I've never seen such behavior.
@@crforfreedom7407 Agreed
@@crforfreedom7407 Yea…a little surprised by the contempt for the defense attorneys. As you said, they aren’t on trial. I haven’t been following the whole case but apparently they were pretty unprofessional so there’s that, but being angry at them simply for providing this guy with a legal defense makes no sense.
The State Bar Association NEEDS to look into this!!!
The look on his face makes me so angry. This man explained it perfectly, looking howdy doody like he didn’t kill 17 people. The defense and this animal are deplorable
Someone gonna kill him in prison.
Every defense is needed and that just makes it every more so he can't appeal and rot in prison. But, it doesn't defend their actions.
What does a man that kills 17 people look like?
Should he have a PERMANENT *DURH* look for the rest of his life? Even as he sits?
@@polishpat95 ikr .... doesnt Change a thing actually....
Well? I am in no way trying to excuse Cruz, but as a retired educator, I know that that kid was just as much a victim of the cruel world we live in and the failure of our social support systems for kids like Cruz. He was probably born broken, but he was made a monster by his parents, the adults who failed him, and the foster care system that is overwhelmed. He should have been dealt with long before he escalated to mass murderer. Since he wasn’t…prison for the rest of his life is now all we can do.
The moment they raised their hands answering the father's question is the moment I broke and cried for these people.
Same 💔💔
Great speech, too bad it's wasted on people with no souls.
I just love how intently the judge is listening to him and it must mean so much to her to be finally appreciated
A judge is not there to be appreciated.
@@crforfreedom7407 no but she is more human than a lot of those I have seen.
Did the judge not give the death sentence?
@@Jhart44 not necessarily, in Florida the jury needs to vote unanimously for the death penalty and in this case, 3 jurors voted "no" to the death penalty
@@damaskgrinnell oh okay. Thanks for the answer
I cried throughout his entire speech about losing his daughter and to endure the hell him and his wife went through. Especially when he watched the shooting of his daughter. I cannot imagine that. We have a 15 year old daughter who is so special to us that I know exactly what was taken from him. Not just him but the rest of the families sitting there. I am so sorry you'll have to spend the rest of your life without them. Thank you for trying to implement laws to protect future generations, for that I'm eternally grateful. God bless all of you
Murder is already a crime and a very serious one and that didn’t stop him. No laws will ever stop someone intent on hurting others from doing so.
@@tacosaurus317 yep so just better to abolish the government and the legal system altogether, such a great idea Mexican dinosaur!
Fred Guttenberg is a self seeking grifter. Everyone feels bad about this. But he has hijacked every political event for years trying to gain personal fame (maybe money, but he seems more like an attention whore). He’s trying to strip away our rights.
How about incarcerate or lock up nut jobs? How about prosecute criminals. Y’all’s party is soft on crime - like the guy with 18 sexual assault arrests you released in NY that raped two more people last week. How about Darrell Brooks being released early by a bleeding hart lib? How about DePape (the Pelosi attacker) who was here illegally. You horrible ideas have horrible real life consequences.
@Edwin Worsech common ground is how we start getting back on the same page! Progress.
doesnt matter how you lose a child or what age the child is...
stop compairing hurt.
I lost my daughter to a brain embolism. There is nothing worse than losing a child. My child died due to malpractice. I'm fighting for the third year but it is unlikely I will get justice as medical doctors with fancy lawyers are up against just me. Mark Twain says attempting to describe child loss` would bankrupt all languages'. I cannot imagine the suffering of these parents and their rage and sorrow at these murders. My sincere love and condolences.
My condolences
Im sorry for your loss what does brain embolism have to do with malpractice? Its a blood cloth in the brain did your daughter have a blood disorder? How did medical doctors cause it? Just curious im truly sorry for your loss medical malpractice do happen often but sometimes some situations are just out of medical professionals hands. I hope you have grieved properly remember anger is part of grieving
Im so sorry 😢. If that ever happened to me the montage music is starting and blood is being spllilled
That dad is a great guy...he learned and was humble with the process, no matter how frustrating it can be, My heart goes out to all the families that lost children to a maniac.
I think the families have uniquely good traits. Max Schacter was great with getting the killers facts straight, the Alhadeff’s were a great support for Alyssa, Manuel Oliver has a great sense of humor, the Montaltos were very patient, Michael Schulmann was great with his knowledge of the law, and Freddie Gutenberg was very humble.
This was the best argument of the trial. His passion and restraint to get all his valid points across was astounding. May he continue to do great work and prevent other peoples daughters and sons being murdered.
@Darth Desec what the f???.
The only way that can be achieved is by removing every single gun from society.
We are all with you Fred and Jen. ❤❤
Talking about spending Mother’s Day and Father’s Day at the cemetery tore me apart. This is horrific
A father of a daughter, This is one of the hardest things I've had to watch. This man's spirits is sooooo strong. Personally I would not be able to speak without losing it. I'm had to grit my teeth so many time just listening to him speak to the killer because I just can't Comprehend how he hasn't launched at him.. I feel for everyone of these parents but that man gets allll my respect
You 'had to watch' this, Einstein? How's that work? The rest of us can stop watching if we want to.
This father makes me feel grateful to be alive. I'm in college now, so when I get home for fall break I'm gonna go hug my parents.
I was choked up the entire time this father spoke. My heart hurts for the victims. The parkland shooter’s lawyers fit him well. They showed no compassion or sympathy. All they care about is getting their way by whatever means possible. My heart goes out to all the parents who lost a loved one because of Nicholas Cruz.
Cope.
@@righteousone1 you cope
A defense attorney's job is not to gave compassion or sympathy in court. That's not his/her job. His/her job is to provide the strongest defense possible for their client and to make sure that the state fully meets its burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
@@Colgate64 All those things and giving the middle finger...
@@user-dc1gz3yd9n I'm going to suggest a lawyer wrote a check or was otherwise disciplined by a review board for that unethical behavior. NOT a good look for future clients either...
This father’s statement is gut wrenching yet provided some type of pay back for himself and the other victim’s family. 🙏🏽
It should have NEVER been allowed. Attacking the defense team rather than making a statement of grief was way out of any legal bounds. How this judge allowed this attack on our justice system I have no idea. This man didn't attack his daughter's assailant, he attacked his defense team. HUH?!?
If the defense team makes a mockery’s of the justice due to these victims, then they deserve the attacks. There is zero reason to be flipping the finger in a courtroom when you’re supposedly there as a “professional”, being paid by our tax dollars as a public defender.
@@TentinQuarantino_ The defense nor the prosecution is in control of the proceedings. That's the job of the judge. If the proceedings are getting so unbalanced and so out of control that the defense is lashing out, however improperly in their own defense, it's the fault of the judge for not controlling her own court. These attacks against our legal system should have NEVER been permitted to start.
@@crforfreedom7407 better call out these defence lawyers for their behaviour then, very unprofessional and inappropriate. They have no excuse. The grieving families have a reason to be angry and frustrated. Lawyers are not gods in spite of their hubris but if they expect respect they better give it as well.
@@tonyfanfarone I think they do have an excuse. If the judge kept her court fair and didn't permit the defense team to be constantly attacked and hurrassed WHICH IS UNHEARD OF, I think you would have seen dramatically different behaivior. They have basic human rights too. We haven't gone totally fascist YET ya know...
How can someone flash the middle finger and laugh with a murderer is beyond me. I hope she faces some backlash for her insensitivity and disgusting behavior.
I can’t imagine the composure it takes to deliver such a long, emotional speech so perfectly. I want to work for this guy.
This dad is a hero, strong, poised and articulate in describing the pain along with the other families of their suffering . He painted the story so well to explain his pain around the room and to the judge. Empathy ❤
Sometimes defense attorneys turn into the monsters they defend. What a shock.
Not true. SOMETIMES, the 'justice system' doesn't act in a blind manor of justice. They not only pre-convict a defendant in violation of the Constitution, but attack his defense team as well. THIS HAPPENED HERE. Things were allowed to be done and said in the legal process, TO AND ABOUT THE LEGAL PROCESS that NEVER should have been permitted. This was a complete breakdown of decorum on the part of the judge from day 1.
That seems to be an inherent problem with the legal system that defense attorneys are allowed to metaphorically stick a knife in the wound, many times over.
That's why this father is so angry! I can't believe that the parents had to sit through this disgusting mess of a legal system.
@@raiden72 He acknowledged that the team was doing their job, WHICH THEY WERE, yet he condemned them anyway? WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY?!?
@@crforfreedom7407 Respectfully, If someone's job is to do the devil's work, then they must be reprimanded.
@@crforfreedom7407 The father meant it cynically. They abandoned morality to get the win.
This story is bone chilling.
That fact he only decided to give this statement hours before… and gave such an incredibly powerful and well constructed speech. He addressed everything he wanted to and did so with such clarity and precision. He did Jamie proud today.
As someone who was engaged to a public defender. They don’t get to choose what cases they get. They have to take mandatory tests to “level up” (different tiers of crimes)The woman who flipped the bird should be disbarred immediately.
This guy despite his Trauma still had enough respect to acknowledge this point whereas there is zero respect from the defence. The egotistical Blonde was by far the worst and needs the sack immediately. 😅
I’ve never loved a man more then this guy right now. This broke me as well. Beautifully spoken.
Giving up YOUR HUMANITY & YOUR DECENTCY are the KEY words....It is SO SAD that nowadays we have lost both of those.
He’s right the Lawyers of Nicholas Cruz should be ashamed of themselves they are disgusting
My heart goes out to him. Jaime was the same age as my son and a freshman in February 2018. She should be a sophomore in college now. He spoke eloquently and from the heart. He went through all that pain and said nothing to make sure there wasn't a mistrial. What a brave thing to do. I pray for him, his wife and all the families affected by this evil act.💜🙏🏽
I'm glad this guy's 15 minutes of fame are over
Cope.
@@theloanranger2632 Can you say that when your child dies? Yes or No, nothing more.
@@cooldued5308 Some people are insensitive by nature
These two are GOOD people. All of the families are just incredible. I give the highest respect to all of the friends and family of the 17 victims. You are an incredible example of the good that can exist in human beings. Thank you 💜
I think that you and @kate9864 both made great points. I can agree that if I had a child and it was murdered, I would be able to sit in a room with the murderer and control myself. These victims legacies and being honored and remembered for the wonderful people that they were. All 17 will be remembered as angels. Cruz will just be remembered as the convicted murderer who dodged the death penalty and will always be remembered as being one of the true scums of the earth. He said that he did not know any of the other victim's family members. They now know each other and support each other and are working to prevent things like this from happening. This man is amazing, not just speaking on behalf of himself but on behalf of ALL the victim's families. He gathered their strength together into his body and let it flow from his mouth. He made a statement as a father individually and also made it known that this was an event that affected dozens of people and that he was not the only one in that courtroom who had suffered for almost 5 years waiting for justice. God bless this man! God bless his wife! God bless these fallen people's families! There are still good people in this world! And with his foundation for getting service dogs for victims of gun violence, he is going to fight back and help others endure what other people have to endure if another Cruz shows up! God bless them!
Well if you can’t have evil you can never have good. Unfortunately tragedies can show people their true colors and these families are hard working and determined.
It’s actually disturbing that the Supreme Court reprimanded this judge. She had lawyers pushing so hard against her and when she fired back she gets the paddle. That’s BS.
Powerful words. The attorney that flipped the bird should be disbarred.
So true.Jeeper P. I hope the bar association takes some action.
Agreed, but not sure she is still there. She was frumpy looking with glasses. Arrogant.
shes being investigated by the bar
news just broke today
I remember a video on courtcam where a man did that 🖕 to the judge and *got two years in prison*
@@ninalou4629 that’s awesome.
He, should be an Attorney. He seems like a very motivated and professional Speaker.
He was very measured and eloquent despite his pain. I pray they find some kind of relief from the end of this trial.
He is now
I could never have been that calm and forceful and dignified at the same time. I would now be in a mental institution because I would have had a complete psychotic break. Thank you for being strong for all of us. You deserve better
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This is sickening what the parents are having to go through
*"I have a broken heart, but I'm okay"*
That is strength at the highest of levels. Every single one of those parents are incredible humans. They inspire me daily. Wow, just wow. Your children are looking down SO PROUD. ❤️🩹
What an amazing father and an amazing statement. He understood exactly why things happened the way they did and understood what defense attorneys have to do and still called them out for their disgusting behavior that went beyond their duty.
The ONLY thing that went 'beyond their duty' was that finger. Otherwise, they were doing exactly what they were SUPPOSED to do. This father knows NOTHING about the justice system and he was talking out of anger, hate and ignorance. I was embarrassed just to listen to it. The purpose of impact statements is to talk about the person who died and to talk about the person found guilty. It is NOT and never has been about attacking the defense counsel for doing their jobs. That judge should have stopped him at once!
@@retroguy9494 But how can you even have a defense team for this guy and it takes 5 years of court proceedings and they have video evidence.
What a great actor, so glad he could maneuver his personal loss and pain into a great new lucrative gig.
@@sukhjitsingh8269 hope you get to enjoy the legal system you’re creating by your ignorance.
@@Billsbob why would you say something so disgusting. I see you keep making these comments on here. I can’t wait till this happens to your family.
I have daughters and hearing this man brought tears to my eyes … rest in peace to every soul lost that day
Having to endure such loss and then face the reason for it without leaping across the court and ripping his throat out is just stunning to me..... Humanity is just unbelievable. Such strength
When he said "I have a broken heart", I felt mine break.
He doesn't care. Evil does not care. Evil has no feelings. He is sitting there thinking his evil thoughts, laughing inside with no remorse. I believe this is therapeutic for the parents. I am in awe of the judge and I know their thanks to her will help her peace. I know with my being, that that evil sitting there will get what he deserves.
I’ll just never understand how you could take 17 lives and get to keep yours. The system is truly broken.
You can hear the tears in this father's voice.
This is really deep and real. May this dad be blessed. Thank you for confronting the defenders of evil in our society.
This judge is the epitome of control. She never lost her cool, didn't get upset by the antics of the defense team. I have so much respect for her. The prosecution team was superb.
The judge is the definition of temperance.
Thank you for speaking out and not letting the defense attorneys off the hook for some of the worst behavior I have seen in a court room. But then, I think most defense attorneys have sold their souls.
No money on this earth would be enough for me to be a defence lawyer for this kind of evil
Its not about the money. They see it as an opportunity to make a name for themselves in this case.
@@ninalou4629 and what does the name for themselves generate? Money, same difference, and one gave the middle finger, no morals
That is the most gripping victim impact statement I’ve ever witnessed. And actually, I’m happy for the family that the sorry sack of garbage didn’t get the death penalty. Remember what happened to Dahmer? He’s going to suffer just as much as those parents and kids in prison, truly suffer. And that’s the thing, even the criminals and guards in prison don’t like him. Those kids and parents are going to get their justice, in all it’s brutality and emotional damage. He will feel the hurt he’s caused.
I wonder which security classification he will receive !!
@@ladytamaya4737 probably solitary in a max security prison! The bad thing is, they’ll make sure he’s safe….except for a few “unexplained” beatings.
@@TellurcatIsaidpspsps For a while. After a few years, he will most likely be classified to medium or even minimum where he is among others.
@@ladytamaya4737 Max at first. He attacked that guard, and it's a high profile case.
@@TellurcatIsaidpspsps They won't keep a maggot like that in max, too much resources for someone who isn't a threat himself and nobody gives a fraction of an iota of a f*ck if he gets abused in turn.
This man needs to go to school to be a prosecutor lawyer. He knows how to speak Due to the intense pressure of losing his daughter. Bravo to you YOUR HONOR.
This victim statement gave me chills. Hope these families can begin to heal from this proceeding and the horrific behaviour of the defence team.
Why are we so afraid to give those people the Death penalty????
Because society views them as people, not monsters.
Not we - 1 person on that Jury... Only 1... voted against the Death Penalty, and so the entire Jury was held hostage by that one person.
@@elgar7252 if only we could change the rule to make it 2 people instead of 1.... Hmmm.....?
@@pensnme A DEMOCRACY views them as people until they are convicted. Once they are convicted, a death penalty is a most appropriate penalty, but 'liberalism' has made that penalty untenable. If you're unhappy with the change from our traditional, historical past, blame Marxism. The proliferation of Marxist ideologies since the 1960s is solely responsible for this change.
The kid is as crazy as a shithouse rat. If you kill him, it will put wind in the sails of those who are critical of the prescription of psychotropic drugs, many of which, by the way, have actual workings that are admittedly unknown to their creators.
Have you watched TV lately, and noticed the percentage of commercials hawking prescription drugs? Well... Seeing this kid go to the gas chamber is not in the interest of Big Pharma, because if such a spectacle invigorates drug detractors' attempts to prove that such medications cause such actions, the ensuing lawsuits against the producers of said drugs might just multiply his wrongful death judgement by 18 (for this case alone), plus whatever punitive amounts might be assessed. Moreover, it would also undermine the credibility of some of the most powerful companies in the world if it's shown that they knew what their medications were likely to do to a segment of their customers, as well as what that same segment of their customers was likely to do to those around them.
What incredible parents. The strength, resilience and vulnerability they’ve shown is beyond what you’d think is possible.
My hands are shaky and cold from this speech, he is legend... I wish I could once be father like him
The day that "thing' flipped the middle finger the judge should have put her in jail for 30 days for contempt of court no questions asked.
How someone could kill 17 people and escape the death penalty is unbelievable.
I don’t know if getting life imprisonment qualifies as “escaping”
He will be killed in prison. They dont like people that do evil things to children.
@@Janon743 Most, if not all, serial killers wants their life spared. Getting life in prison is a better sentence for them. That's a fact.
@@jobbins008 I never heard that before, and never thought about it that way. I always just saw the death penalty as the easy way out for monsters who deserves so much worse than death..
Yeah, it’s not like this is some detective work and circumstantial evidence pointing the finger. There is no question it was him. We don’t need the labor from his work in jail. We don’t need tax dollars going towards his climate control and food and entertainment. He’s taken lives, he hasn’t been found mentally unstable, he shows no remorse. Take him away.
This is a parent who absolutely loved his child more than anything. Condolences and wishing these families all the very best with thier healing
How these parents can sit in the same room witht the killer of their kids without out trying to tear the monster apart baffles me!
As a father, I wish no father will ever endure this, too much pain
Sadly in this world many do. And will continue to
Teared up a hell of a lot when he spoke about all the amazing things the family of the victims are doing now. Respect to this man and all those family members that have maintained their decency in the face of this cruelty
Wow. Wow. Beautiful speech. Heartbreaking and delivered so eloquently without tears. I hear strength in those man’s words. It garners respect.
This is a powerful statement. It's from the heart.
It was high time somebody told it like it is. This defence team has behaved utterly reprehensibly. Nobody expects them not to do their job defending that creature. But the defence team lost their humanity (if they ever had it to begin with) while doing so because of their utter lack of empathy for the victims (yes, the families of the murdered individuals are victims too), their lack of dignity in the way they treated the courtroom like a circus (with them as the clowns) and their overall shameful behaviour while court was in session.
Bravo to this father who spoke so well. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hey ding dong! If you don't properly represent your client you can get the whole case in trouble! You people are the reason why democracy is the dumbest system in the world.
Hated the defense from the beginning
@@mewesquirrel6720 Congrats.
Very poignant what the father said! He has more dignity and character than the whole defense!
My heart goes out to the father.
I admire this man more than words could say. The succinct, powerful, and confident summary/display of his stance and pain is phenomenal. I'd be a blubbering mess. His strength is incredible.
Salute to you sir! Your daughter would be so proud of you for standing up for justice. It's so sad that her life was taken by this monster.
The lawyer who said "No one else endured anything like we have in this courtroom" is a clown. Absolute buffoon to even think that was remotely appropriate to say in that context. These families will take this pain to their grave. I'm just appalled that he even had the nerve to say that.
You can tell this man was/is an amazing father, I wish I had one like him you're bound to be amazing being raised by someone so well spoken
i would 100% use the tense is. he is still her father. she is still his daughter. nothing that cruel man did can ever take that bond away from them. he is being a wonderful father for speaking here.
This might be one of the worst things a parent can experience. Having your child murdered and then actually seeing it, but not being able to stop it in the moment.
His calmness and class yet delivers a LOUD resounding resentment to the murderer and those garbage lawyers. Well done. I actually cried a bit, I can't imagine what he went through BUT the fact that he turns the hate into love and will help victims have beautiful endlessly loving dogs is wonderful. Every child should have a pet in my opinion, im here as a 27 year old even and my dog is my love and I'd give anything for him. I sincerely thank these families for this unprecedented push for gun safety and child safety, they are all heroes and deserve the world and hopefully we, as Americans, can FINALLY learn from this and protect children.. no child should ever feel trauma of any kind or be told what a shooter safety drill is.. absolutely appalling BUT there's still time to make it better.. its never too late to change the future.
He didn’t just speak for his daughter, he spoke for all the families. This was an amazing impact statement.
That man/father! Wow he spoke so eloquently and so direct. I am absolutely proud of him
How did that judge hold it together through all of this as well. These stories actually restore my faith in humanity
This poor Dad. I wish I could give him a big daughter hug. 🥺❤❤
I find that this man made MANY good points and he did not just speak on behalf of himself. He spoke on behalf of all of the victim's family members. "How many people in this courtroom won't see their family member get married?" "How many people in this courtroom will not be able to send their child to college?" He made mention of the way that they had supported each other. He said he did not know any of the other victim's family members before the shooting. He indicated that they were all there to support one another through these trying times. He could have easily been having a heart attack when the medical examiner was discussing what happened specifically about his daughter. He indicated that he is going around "harassing" politicians. I think he is not "harassing" them, but rather making them aware of something that they're ignoring. In my opinion that is not "harassment" but a respectable concerned citizen who lost his daughter to murder holding the government accountable and bringing to light serious issues that need to be addressed. Anyone who is reading this can call it what they like and disagree with me. That is NOT harassment. That is being a good person and an advocate. This man spoke about what they had to "endure" and I think this man is a saint and a survivor. The shooters team made statements that the victim's families were "inciting violence" during the trial. Let me ask you this. Did ANY of those family members pick up a gun and shoot someone? Did they injure anyone? Did they commit any violent acts? They had peaceable protest. If they want to see inciting violence, they should look at the idiot that they had to defend in this case. HE incited violence and not only that but he murdered a large number of people and injured many more. I think that the defense attorneys lost their sense of morality in this case. I have seen other videos from the trial. The defense team was rude, disrespectful, took shots at the judge and the prosecution, and in general just made their office look terrible.
It's amazing to see how the parents of a victim will work to help other victims of gun violence in the name of their child. The world is crazy but I still think that the love and care of fellow human beings is stronger. I've been contemplating it. If someone sees another person about to fall its just innate instinct to intervene. We watch out for each other.
I just got chills I felt your pain my brother… To get up there and get your point across not just for your family but other families as well takes strength.. rip to your daughter 😢
Thank you so much, sir, for saying what we all wanted to say. Those attorneys have been acting like absolute and utter clowns. To make a mockery of what these people have lost is absolutely monstrous and especially that one woman needs to be disbarred and never ever be allowed to practice again.
I love this dad and he did a great job speaking from his heart. 😢
Well said Sir. My deepest heartfelt condolences go out to you and all the mums and dads who have been forced to live this horror.
Public defender Gordon Weekes thinks that he and his staff are the victims. Who thinks he should resign in disgrace?
Upcoming Politician I am sure.
Resignation is not an option. I remember when the attorney for the cyber ninjas wanted off the case when he realized it truly was a fraudit. They wouldn't let him off the case.
@@helenpatterson3858 resign from his job, not just the case.
YIP....HE SHOULD RESIGN
His staff was being publicly attacked and he did his job: defended them and attempted to protect them.
The public defenders had to take this case. They tried to remove themselves, but the judge refused. They are required to defend their client or risk losing their license (and having the case overturned).
The fact that the defence actually said no one had to endure what they (the defence) had to endure during the trial. Absolutely *disgusting* to believe they had it worse than the victims families and loved ones. Yes, they should be utterly ashamed. I don’t believe they are though. At least 3 of those defence attorneys should never be able to set foot in a courtroom again. They make Elaine Bredehoft look good
I'm disgusted by the defense and their antics. Despicable
My heart breaks for these families it's unimaginable what they're going through
The words spoken by this father is just chilling.. May Jamie and the other victims rest in peace ❤️
As a 30-year trial attorney I can say with confidence that for those defense lawyers this was their worst nightmare, being chewed out by a grieving father, with his saddened wife standing and staring too. The defense lawyers will never forget these days (and probably considering a new law specialty, so s/he never has to face this again).
I especially enjoyed watching them squirm, keep their composure, trying to hide by looking away; alas there was nothing they could do except look at the speaker. That was a wise move, lest they risk the bereaved SCREAMING "can't you look at me when I'm talking, can't you show my murdered daughter just a little respect. Just fake it you scumbag!"
To avoid that trauma, at 6:48 we see them all shutting up and keep eye contact with the father. (That's hard to do, especially while on worldwide TV the bereaved is telling the universe you guys are the biggest assholes in it, and that in a nutshell you're all pieces of 💩.)
They would all need bodyguards in a perfect world.
I've been feeling the whole thing from France. I am disgusted with these lawyers' behaviour and I really hope you're right.
@@janetmurphy7053 in some respects I agree with you. I kept thinking of the judge who presided over the Ahmad Aubrey case. Night and day.
This judge was an embarrassment. She could have stepped in during the most personal attacks. But the parents were just “doing their jobs” for their lost child and their families.
They are entitled by law to speak. So she let them speak.
Just as jurors knew what they were taking on, so were ALL attorneys. Suck it buttercup.
They could have objected but they didn’t. Maybe because they realized they went overboard defending a confessed murderer and the families called them out.
They was not a trial to prove guilt but to decide punishment. And he escaped just punishment.
@@janetmurphy7053 These public defenders all know in their legal capacity the defendant is guilty of mass murder. To try and a get him off with a miss-trial therefore allowing him back in society is what makes them all a piece of 💩. Yes
@Padraig Warren not nearly as bad as portrayed.
I did not hear anyone threaten a juror or attorney.
The confessed mass murderer? Oh yeah. I think a little leeway was in order.
The parents were just “doing their jobs”.
just saw this for the first time utterly heart breaking from this proud and honest man speaking his truth from infinite grief in his hear for this incomprehensible loss. My heart is broken for you sir...
Omg this broke me! 😢 the pain inflicted to these families is unbearable. We need to do more as an American society
Public defenders don’t even help people that they know are innocent not take a bogus plea. But fighting this case for almost 5 years is insane.
Aren’t cases like this normally 2 years? And when Covid hit, it most likely slowed it down. So 2018-2020, Pause, Start again 2020-2022… idk
No lies being told here
@@GBULL1982 that wasn’t the point. PD usually don’t work this hard for innocent people.
@@ajatathemu Most cases aren't this notorious. They saw an opportunity to make a name for themselves.
Yeah, I find that so fking weird and sick. All this time I thought they were his private lawyers..