Gut-wrenching: Parkland parents listen in horror as medical examiner describes injuries | LiveNOW
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2022
- Nikolas Cruz is facing a possible death sentence for killing 17 people at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, including 14 children. The parents of Gina Montalto, Jaime Guttenberg and Helena Ramsay sat in the courtroom as medical examiner Dr. Marlon Osbourne detailed the injuries he found on the autopsies. Gina Montalto was shot and killed at close range, Jaime Guttenberg was shot in the back and torso, and Helena Ramsay was killed with a gunshot to the head.
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I am legit amazed that none of those parents have tried to attack him.
Omg ik
I was wondering the same, especially when they walked to the stand to give their testimonies. Perfect opportunity to lunge at him and at least try to clobber the sicko. I admire their strength.
They are w/ there eyes!!
Really!? They have more humanity than the man who killed their kids. It's also a Court room and it will never bring their kids back. Their strength is undeniable and I give them credit...
They have been told that if they did so, a mistrial would be called and the trial would have to start all over again.
As a parent, when your child is born, hearing the weight, height is a significant and joyful moment. For these parents to hear age, weight, height because someone murdered them just kills your heart.
@@iamwhoiam7887shut up troll.
@@iamwhoiam7887ur not the edge lord u think u are
@@winkwonk7130 yeah well. At least I'm not a black
@@iamwhoiam7887 shut up
I love how supportive Alex father is with the other parents. Such good people who didn’t deserve this
Nobody deserves this.
@@katperson1955 I think that’s what they said 🙄
Yes, and his fiancée is also supportive.
Exactly.
@@katperson1955 true
I am sure that doing these autopsies on a bunch of slaughtered children was incredibly traumatizing for this doctor. I feel compassion for everyone who was a part of this tragedy.
Yeah, u can tell by the tone of his voice and the exhales he does a lot when asked questions. He hates describing all that, reliving it, and especially with the victims' families present.
He seems pretty chill about it tbh
@@iamwhoiam7887He was acting chill but we can tell he really wasnt
There is nothing chill about this. Unforutnately it is the job of a medical examiner to analyze and interpret the results of an autopsy. It's his job to be objective about his results especially in a court of law where the defense can draw on an pathologist to reivew the results and think differently. I can't imagine that this medical examiner went home and had a "good night" after this. It is a terrrible situation. But in this case his job is to be objective.
@@iamwhoiam7887how's he gonna look freaking out? He has to stay as well composed as he can
Unbelievably sad. I can't imagine having to hear how my daughter was murdered. It's awful hearing it as a stranger. I know the medical examiners have done thousands of cases, but I'm sure it was extremely difficult to handle these cases too.
For real. I imagine the ME are very professional and desensitized, but I imagine its rare for them to get SEVERAL autopsies (of children) in one go. That would effect anyone.
Very young victims, terrible for anyone im sure. Not to belittle the loss of the older victims- the statement of one of the teacher’s relatives, clearly such a beautiful soul, who gave so much to others, the story from the grandmother whose granddaughter talks to her twice a week now, i mean thats truly a beautiful person taken so unfairly and too soon, truly heartbreaking. Its all so very sad, I’ve cried for the victims and their families, similar to the judge’s statement, i wish I could take a tear or two from them
Don’t ve gone through times on life where i wonder how to get up in the morning, but never anything like this, the strength of these family members to appear so dignified and strong. I thought joquin’s dad was a superhero, I bet his son was a legend, i hope one day in a better world I’ll meet him
Every time you see Alex‘s father it makes you want to cry
If there ever was a personification of parental grief it’s him :/
And Tom Hoyer, Luke Hoyer’s father, breaks my heart. The pain on his face….
@@katehenderson8194 and Alex’s stepmother. You can tell she is a genuine soft, caring, wonderful person. Especially since Alex’s biological mother passed away.
@@katehenderson8194 Also why is like 😷 Nicholas Cruz like the only one wearing a mask during a grief struck testimony
You can see pain from his face deep traumatised
You know how when you cry for more than a few moments you start getting a headache shortly after? These families have been crying constantly, imagine the INSANE amount of physical pain they're experiencing while they're reliving and learning the disgusting fine details of these crimes. Putting families through this is almost just as much torture as them losing their child to this. Which is INSANE.
Can't we all just collectively agree to toss him to hell where he belongs?
I agree with you but would add let the parents each have 5 minutes alone with him.
@@ledob9140 I thoroughly approve of this spectacular stipulation!
Agony.
They dont have to be there.
Yes we all agree with you but unfortunately he too “deserves” his time in court.
We don’t have to like it. But we do have to live by it. The kid is seriously messed up but I also believe that there is hope for everyone. I just thank God he will not be out in the real world to hurt anyone anymore. He’s done too much damage. I pray the families do not die angry and bitter and that they find some forgiveness in their hearts. Forgiving isn’t just for the wrong doers sake. It’s for your own sake. Forgive as Christ forgave us.
I don’t know why the camera has to zoom in on the parents whilst these horrific things are read out. It’s grossly insensitive and stinks of voyuerism.
My brother was killed in work related accident caused by negligence on his company's part. My family sat in a court room and herd the devastating consequences My beautiful brother sustained because of his careless company he was employed with. The court actually begged my mom and myself to please leave the room during this time due to the graphic pictures that were to be shown. I died with him that day. I pray that God will comfort all the families. This pain will never ever go away. They will someday just learn to survive with the pain. I am so truly heartbroken for the loss these families feel. Take comfort in knowing that at the moment of their deaths They were looking into the eyes of Jesus who was assuring them their suffering was over.
I'm so sorry you have had to deal with that type of trauma
Charity, I'm so sorry for the loss of your brother. In 2007 I lost my 23 year old son to suicide and you're so right when you say the pain will never go away, that you just learn to survive with it. It becomes a part of you and even on your happiest days, there's still that place in your heart that aches for the loss of someone you love so dearly. My daughter and I both had to learn how to accept it and live with it. My heart hurts so much for these parents, siblings and friends who have lost someone they loved and to hear how they were murdered by this monster. I hope and pray they have the faith 🙏 to know that God will help them learn to live with what has been done. Without my faith, I wouldn't have made it, as I'm sure your faith helps you and your family live through a pain that is beyond what words can express and that is always with you. God bless you and yours!
@@lucy2014 wow as a mother myself, your message hit a soft spot.
I'm so sorry for your loss
You touched my soul when you said "you died with him that day and the pain never goes away but you learn to live with it" .. I lost my sister when she was only 28. And we was on BAD terms. It eats me up every single day. 😢
Im so so sorry for your loss ♥️ im sending you all the hugs and well wishes in the World to you and your family, stay strong!
My god, this is pure trauma for those parents. My heart breaks for them. Unimaginable pain 😞
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It’s ridiculously unnecessary you can imagine how a little
Body responds to automatic weapons. And they died. They need to decide the fate and end the b s
How the parents were able to sit there, and listen to the fact that their children were ripped to pieces by bullets, some point blank, and not fly off the handle is amazing at how strong willed they are. As a security guard of now 9 years, If I was one of the guards in that court room, I would’ve STRONGLY anticipated that, given that many of those years have been spent observing people. My heart goes out to these families, I had such a hard time watching this and the family of victim statements. If I was a father of any these children, Id likely would’ve tried to kill this monster, charges or not, consequences be damned
Just seeing ginas dad brake down is tears is very upsetting. A loving father who should still have lots of time on this planet to do things and create many more memories with his first born child.
Watching Gina’s parents is so painful. God bless them and give them strength.
Gina mom didn’t even give a victim impact statement
Imagine hearing the way your son/daughter died. I can only imagine. Bless the family's and those acquainted with those they have lost.
They would have heard it already long before the trial. But it's having to sit through this after 4 years, going through this again with the murderer right in front of you.
That is torture
Hi Stacey, correct you are. This is one big show for the jury for the State and for asshole to be forced to listen over and over again what the “ voices “ told him to do....
@@slak24 Then to top it off the cameras are pointed at the parents suffering rather than focusing on the testimony. The Maldanados(sp) got more airtime than the Doctor when he testified about their daughter. The media can't let them grieve privately, its intentional and disgusting.
@@EricK-tb2dn absolutely agree with you. I mean they barely even reveal the murderer. To me he shows absolutely no remorse whatsoever.
Death penalty is quick and painless I think the parents and the victims should be left to handle him.
Here in South Africa 🇿🇦 the black communities take matters into their own hands now as our justice system is more torture to be put through.
You should be able to have a look, if they rape, steal etc they tie up hands hands feet, beat them and then put a tyre over them throw paraffin on them and burn them.
I prefer that way knowing that all the pain and torture they put people through they feel the pain.
And the people will stand and watch. There are families that watch them being burnt alive, they won't dare get involved because they will be thrown in with them.
If people want to claim that it's a crime as it's a violation of that person's rights.... what happened to the rights they violated....
Maybe send this monster to snake island.....
@@slak24 I hope he get life in general population.
Dr. Osborne...God Bless you. This is a lot for you to go through. Blessings and prayers
My heart hurts for those poor babies who did not deserve that. I feel so very bad for the families.
@Boston Gal shut up .l.
Key word...babies. And he's a baby himself. I hug mine everyday. I'm scared for them...
@@dontknowyoubutloveyou we must keep God in our hearts and put our trust in him to cover our children….
@Elaine Beck absolutely. And for healing. These shootings are getting out of hand. I don't have a solution or answer. I don't think anyone does. But mental health and healing need to be addressed. There's so much PAIN!
Who „he”?
This doctor has a tough job. I'm grateful for his work because I couldn't do this.
I feel such a pain in my chest as my daughter is named Helena so I can’t imagine hearing this about my little girl. My absolute condolences to these 17 families and friends of the murdered victims!
And attorney Weekes has the audacity to say”no one has had to endure what we have had to endure” what a psycho!!!
I just wish I could hold every one of these parents. As if loosing a child isn't enough, they have to relive it everyday in court.
I'm with you. I'd give anything to show these 34 victims how much they are supported and loved.
And still won’t bring their children back . Love and prayers do nothing . These gun laws need to change , nothing more , nothing less
It’s really hard to imagine the parents smiling again. Moving on without one of their children. What a heartbreak this is to them. Their frowns i feel are eternal on their faces. What a tragedy.
And to have to sit through this is so traumatizing. Having to be in the same room as the murderer too must be torture
@@slak24 - They show amazing restraint by not lunging at him.
@Boston Gal This is truly not a choice. They are there to represent their loved one. To be seen, heard, their pain validated, and ensure justice for their children. No one "chooses" to be there. Many survivors of violent crime endure the criminal justice process to represent their loved ones.
@Boston Gal I'm very sorry this happened to you and your family.
@Boston Gal I'm so sorry
This is so sad and heartbreaking. I can't begin to describe the hate that I have for Cruz for causing all of the pain in these wonderful people.
Don’t hate him. Pity him. He doesn’t deserve anything not even hate
Hate only hurts the hater never the hated. Focus on loving these victims . Don't waste your good energy on this waste of space.
He was clearly very mentally crazy nutcase
Remember you and society created him. So to hate him is to hate yourself. 🤔🤔
@@writtenhousesecurity6499 nope, wrong you are. I didn't create evil.
I don't know if I could sit in that room listening to the ways my loved one was murdered. These family members are extremely strong. My heart goes out to them.
Nothing can ever take place of the loss. Yet going through all the accounts, examining each one and reading statements is cathartically part of the grief process. Laying bare and raw pain - I am so grateful each parent, family member .etc.. has the chance to publicly validate their grief.
These parents' faces convey everything; disgust, outrage and utter despair. No parent should outlive their child, especially in this horrendous manner. God bless these families.❤
I'm in bits watching this I have been following this case and have posted in the past.
I cannot imagine what the Family and Friends of the 17 murdered innocents are going through, my condolences,sympathies and prayers are with you all
Mark,Liverpool,England.xx
It shouldn't be happening. As parents, we aren't equipped 2 Bury our young. Goes against nature. I hope this psycho gets the ultimate penalty
@@angelawatson1594
I agree.
My goodness. Seeing the parents just breaks my heart. I can’t imagine the pain they are feeling.
heartbreaking, praying for all of the families who lost loved ones❤️
Mr Schater never missed a single hearing. Always there shaking his head in disbelief. I also recognize the blonde mother with glasses, she is also there all the time. Bless those poor parents reliving this trauma when the moster who did this is just few steps away.
I think the blond woman is the mother of beautiful Jaime Guttenberg. Unbelievable how strong these parents are to be there day in and day out... it must be so impactful to the jury to experience their pain.
He has been present for all the hearings except when the ballistic expert testified. It is understandable.
@@MariaPerez-ch4zu i saw one where he was there when either the coroner or someone else testified that the gunshot wounds he sustained crippled him, Mr Shacter was there crying 😭
The Dworet's have been to every one too.
And what's even sadder is this was all for nothing. The whole purpose of revealing how these poor children were killed was to secure the death penalty. And that didn't happen. So these parents went through this for nothing.
I work in this field and I can only imagine how hard it is looking at endless photos of kids autopsy photos, not to mention your own child's.
God Bless You and thank you for what you do. I was an AA in a District Attorney’s Office and quit after just under 6 years because I couldn’t look at the photos of children or animals anymore. 🙏🏼♥️🕊
God bless these poor, brave broken parents. There are no words 🥺 no parent should have to endure such heartache
Day in, day out. Week in, week out .... these parents & families sit and listen to the horrors of that fateful day. They are reliving the pain of their losses, knowing that their lives will never ever be the same.
I’m amazed at the bravery of the victims families, it was hard listening to this and I didn’t know any of them. I couldn’t imagine being a parent having to listen this. I am truly sorry this happens to children.
I don’t know if I could be strong enough to do this. I’ve thought about this in depth and this is one of the major parts of the entire trial I really don’t think I could handle if I was in their shoes. As said previously I’m sure the parents knew all of this before the trial but to hear it again, this time with their murderer right in front of you is devastating. My brain keeps thinking “why is he alive and gets to sit here and listen to this when their children who were totally innocent can’t.” Nick doesn’t deserve to breathe the same air as these families.
I’d like to think I would be as strong as these parents and do what I have to for justice for my child..but I don’t know if I could be in the courtroom for this part. The pain on the parent’s faces says it all for me. They’re suffering listening to this 😞 I cried through every single impact statement and the entirety of this video. These people are complete strangers to me and they don’t even know I exist, but if I could take their pain away I would in a heartbeat. NO ONE deserves this. No parent should lose their child in this way… Normally I’m a very vocal person and I like to talk, write, type, etc but this case has me at a loss for words. There is nothing any of us can do or say to help these families heal. They will never be able to escape the impact of the actions of this murderer. The impact statement of one of the victim’s sister said it perfectly when she said “there is no normal.” “there is no peace”.
That's exactly how I feel about this
Actually they didn't know the gruesome details until this sentencing hearing. All of the parents who showed up on court as often as they could are incredibly strong people. I don't think I could do it.
@@shellos8 wait are you serious? I figured they would know at least some of the details after the autopsy 😳 although if I put myself in their shoes I wouldn’t want to know those details. Losing my child is already too much for me to cope that hearing the details would ruin me.
I’m with you, these families are so much stronger than I am. I would not be able to keep my composure
The same families have sat through all of the this trial together as a group, they have strength in number I feel so much admiration for them all to face the loss of their kids head on in this senseless way. This is a life long prison sentence and there’s no chance of escape.
Those poor children...
My heart breaks for their parents & family.
This is so sad to listen to.
🥺💔
The forensic details force the shooter to comprehend the awful thing he has done. He blew those victims to pieces.
You should see his interrogation. Dude seemed happy with the details, and even mimicked holding the gun to relive the experience. This is not a normal human-being. He does not see the horror like you and I do.
Can’t you believe 5 years to solve this case how much it cost to society
My heart just breaks for the parents love to you all
This is absolutely brutal to watch/hear. Those poor parents! I don't know where they get the strength to keep going.
May God bless all of these families and give them the strength to move forward from this evil and senseless act!
amen !!! I know it will never stop hurting but I hope they can be there for each other to help each other grieve
and I hope they can continue to live their lives so as to honor the loved ones they lost, because I know they would like their families to live long happy lives !
I don’t know how these parents or jurors can listen to these details. I know for a fact, I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t even make it through this video without my emotions getting the best of me. I will keep all of these innocent souls in my prayers.
I pray at some point these families will heal as much as anyone who lives through this hell possibly can.
I am a defense lawyer and ardent opponent of the death penalty, but I cry watching these videos. The anguish of the parents is palpable and so tragic. I am a parent of a high school freshmen girl and a senior boy. Their classroom buildings, and in particular the classroom doors with large vertical windows, are designed and laid out exactly like Parkland. I live in Arizona, home of the most lax gun laws in the country. Any 18 year old can walk into a local gun store and within 30 minutes walk out with as many AR 15s, semi automatic handguns, magazines for them, and as much ammo as they can afford to buy. It's insanity, and I worry about my kids' safety at their extremely nice and frankly well to do school every day, to the point I am considering removing them from the school until the classrooms are properly secured. The school district recently spent well over a million dollars installing a state of the turf football field. How about spending half that to secure the damn classrooms! It's a sad commentary on our country and state of politics.
if you research just who in politics are in the deep, deep pockets of the NRA, you can see just who has been taking millions from them. Those are the people that continue to do nothing with all the mass murders across this country. They need to be voted out.
Please stop defending people like this. Become a prosecutor.
@@klvoshall6799 I appreciate your perspective, especially when looking at a horrific case like this. But our Constitution entitles everyone, no matter how horrific their crimes, to a defense. I happen also to be a firearms enthusiast and hunter, most of my friends are quite conservative, so we agree to disagree about the death penalty. I would shed no tears if Cruz is executed. But I can assure that despite his video rants, etc., at bottom he is profoundly mentally ill. Wait to hear the defense side. Why they reserved their opening statement to preview their side of the story is beyond me, legal malpractice in my view. I have two kids in high school - my heart aches for the victims and their families.
@@MegaSickcat As an historical firearms enthusiast and life long hunter and recreational shooter, I could not agree MORE. AR 15s have no place in civilian hands, and to the extent our dumb ass current Supreme Court mandates their legality, they and other semi automatic eifles and hand guns should be heavily regulated and subject to education, safety training, licensing, and waiting period requirements.
@todd hale I agree. I own a semi automatic hand gun and have my license. I also take continuing education and re- cert regularly.
Why do all these students turned into killers look very similar? It’s creepy. I wish it actually upset him hearing what he has done to these poor kids. But I’m afraid he actually enjoys this process of hearing the damage he has caused.
Fr…negative attention is still attention. Its so hard not to be mad and wanting something bad to happen to him, and itll be well deserved.
Oh dear God, what a heartbreaking job to have. But he helps convict criminals
😢 this is so heartbreaking. Those parents are so strong to sit there and listen to how this monster murdered their babies. I’m sorry you all have to be so strong. I know you don’t want to be and I know you’re all tired and have no answers. My heart goes out to all of you! I’m happy this monster will rot in jail.
God bless these parents. I couldn't sit and listen to this. May God bring each of them peace🕊️
How he didn’t get death penalty is beyond me
4 years not knowing how and how many times your child died unbelievable the pain these Families had to endure and sit in court listening but not seeing any pictures of their own child so heartbreaking your always in my thoughts and prayers my deepest sympathy and condolences I am forever sorry for your loss
how many times? people only die once...
How many times your child died?
Why would they want to see pictures
So horrific for the parents to have to relive these details, to have to deal with this in the first place. The pathetic shooter always looks bored & frustrated at having to sit through the process of the details, it makes me feel sick.
]as a mother my heart is breaking feeling so terrible these family’s
I can't watch anymore, hugs and prayers to all these people.
this is truly heartbreaking, just seeing knowing the Mental Anguish, the pain in their Expression, is gut wrenching!
i can barely keep it together myself so i can only imagine what these parents have to endure, and will for the rest of their lives. 🥹
..be strong you guys, and hold out hope that you'll get through this,
i say this in the most sincere way possibly.
Peace and LOve to yous all 🙏🙏❤💜💜
These families are there of their own will. I'm sure the prosecutor briefed them well what to expect. These people are the best of the best parents.
They already know the autopsy. That's not the first time they heard it. They already had funerals for their departed.
They may hear new stuff. I have been through testimony like this as t he sister of the murdered person. I heard new stuff I cannot unhear at the trial.
These families are having to relive hearing, and possibly visualizing what happened to their children. Just because they have buried their children who was murdered by a sociopath, doesn’t mean that the pain is gone. The emotions are high in that court room.
They are the voices of their children. When you lose someone who was taken from you, especially a child, you don’t get closure when you bury them.
You can see the pain in this man.
I can’t stop crying and I’m not even one of the parents. I can’t IMAGINE the PAIN
@@mixedfeelings5484 please stop watching and take care of yourself. This can be too much! My heart with you too! 🥺
this is pure torture but I hope this can bring some resemblance of closure to the grieving families. i can’t imagine anything worse than having to hear how your loved ones passed away, specially considering how brutal this was, but not knowing is something that would probably gnaw at them forever. May the Lord bless them and give them strength to live and the justice they and the wonderful kids that passed away deserve.
It will be interesting to hear the outcome of this trial. Such a horrible and heartbreaking incident. I know hit these parents feel. One of my sons was shot in the face and died instantly. This will live in me forever. This kind of hurt will always be there just a heartbeat away..
My thoughts and prayers to you .
I’m truly sorry 🙏
Im so sorry for your loss 🙏♥️
🙏🙏🙏
These poor families having to sit through this. I don’t think I would be able to do it, it’s horrible that they were killed to begin with, but listening to how they were killed, in detail, would seem unbearable.
@Boston Gal they are there to assure this creep gets the chair
@@bostongeorge2099 The chair is so cliche. It’s not even used anymore.
@@wgcds7jyg897 im from mexico i dont how americans kill this p… of s…
Life imprisonment seems to easy. And because he is truly guilty , I wouldn’t be opposed to a QUICK DEATH PENALTY .
It's the opposite really... death is too quick and too easy. Spending the next 80+ years in solitary confinement is a more fitting punishment. Cruz wants death, they should not give him what he wants.
I don't think I'd have the strength that these parents have. I just can't imagine that kind of strength and with the murdering monster just feet away. I'd be going for his eyes with my thumbs.
I am just so sorry.
goodness this is heart wrenching.
i cant begin to imagine how it feels, but having the same last name as helena just made it more real to me, absolutely devastating.
So heartbreaking sad. Prayers for the victims who were taken suddenly and so brutally. Pray they are in heaven with God's protection and love feeling no pain.
These parents sat there and listened to the description of the manner of death of their children. I don’t know if I could sit through that. My heart breaks for them. That killer hanging his head and plugging his ears is ridiculous.
These poor, poor families. Cruz... what a monster.
May these Parents find some comfort in bringing this proceding to a close. My heart goes out of them in this continuing anguish.
These proceedings were all for nothing, he didn't even get the death penalty.
I am rewatching and transcribing this after the jury's verdict. Were they sleeping during this expert testimony of the autopsies?
These 3 children suffered prior to death and this is not okay. Jaime Guttenberg was instantly paralyzed from the neck down. She could not breathe and in laymens terms she was literally drowning. Helena Ramsey and Gina Montalto were both shot at point blank range causing burns from the barrel of an AR-15 automatic rifle. Can someone please tell me how the jury found mitigating factors possibly outweighing aggravating factors? Jury is supposed ro be reasonable individuals and there is nothing reasonable in their decision making. They were not competent in making a rationale decision and were clearly biased or lacked cognizant reasoning.
@333지은 not Jamie or do you not think drowning on your own blood pooling in your lungs suffering? And because her spine was severed she couldn’t even attempt to to roll over or try and stop her drowning in blood. And to add to all of that her and the other two Victims final minutes were hearing the sounds of fellow classmates screaming and dieing.
@333지은 Gunshot wounds are not always fatal and certainly not always fast. The pathologist testifying is able to determine how a person died and some of these people suffered terribly. Perhaps more research is needed for you.
Literally wtf could Nicolas Cruz be writing….? The entire time wtf! Prolly scribbling in an attempt disappear from the horror he inflicted ….. hope he gets his SOON
Yep its pretty sad that he's not made to watch and listen.
I blame the judge, she should have more control over her courtroom. Force his ass to pay attention.
@@lindabradford9591 not sticking up for this heartless monster but you can not force someone to pay attention.. literally it's impossible.. you can be looking directly at someone who's talking and be in your own la la land not listening to a word being said. And as for him passing messages to his lawyer that's something your aloud to do during court they can't tell him he can't take notes or pass questions to his lawyer.
14 years old? 108 pounds? 63 inches..!? My god, what a little innocent baby growing up. I cannot imagine enduring the never ending nightmare that must have consumed every aspect of the Montalto family.
Oh dear God, this poor man
This is just dragging on and on. I don't even watch these videos anymore. I can't imagine what it's like for the families.
Yea there’s like 20 videos of this.
Well yea, there was 17 victims who were killed, and a massive number who were injured/present for the victims who were killed. The justu has to see this, the families don't have to stay, they're staying in support of each other it would seem. It's a kind of closure they need to move on.
@@SCUMMY4205 they’re talking about how the videos are constantly reposted🙄
talk about re-traumatizing those poor victims' families - this truly breaks my heart how awful!
They can leave. They chose to stay bc the feel guilty, I think. And want to understand what their kids went through.
Make the killer SIT UP AND LOOK AT THE PERSONAL TESTIMONIALS, EVIDENCE, ETC.
It is disrespectful to the Court, the Witnesses, the experts, and the Families to HIDE behind his mask and hand!!!
Judge, ORDER NC to SIT UP, REMOVE HIS MASK AND RESPECTFULLY OBSERVE the proceedings!!!!!
For weeks, NC has sat there and acted indignant like all of the testimony is a waste of his time. It's infuriating to watch. I'm sure if the lethal injections don't get him first, prisoners will.
HELL NO YOU THINK HE CARES ? HE LOVES HEARING EXACTLY WHAT HE DID . HE LOVES HEARING THESE LAST PERSONAL MOMENTS THESE KIDS HAD TO THEMSELVES AFTER 100’S WALKED PAST THEIR DEAD BODIES
I mean at this point does it really matter how he acts? He’s going to burn in hell for all of eternity. I don’t care if they face time him from a cell to the court room. As long as this story ends with lethal injection.
I agree
NC shows no emotion....just writes notes and draws.
What the hell is Cruz writing on notes and passing to his lawyer?
apparently this entire trial he has been doodling in his notepad
I just want to sit there with the victims families and put my arm around them for support, This is so unbelievable heartbreaking
“intimately close contact wound” yes sir, that is correct. So these poor parents have to envision that maniac sitting across them holding the rifle intimately close enough to their 14 yr old child. Imagining the fear she felt as this happened…. I dont know how they do it. They also hear about the defense wounds and know their child was experiencing pure terror with a rifle being pointed at her. I think all the lawmakers that wont change the laws should have to sit through these testimonies. And maybe some of them should sacrifice their own children up to another maniac and hear it about their deceased child. How do people keep doing this? Parents, you are so strong and I am so sorry you had to sit through this. Heart breaking. I think about pulling my child from school daily bc of this.
Please, pull your child from the Godless government school system. After home educating mine for 30 years successfully with no degrees of my own I can tell you it is quite doable and a great blessing. All five of mine have ended up well educated responsible and loving adults contributing greatly to society. By the grace of God it can be done.
@@milliejoneel9437 I hope your children are also educated in science and not brain washed by religion
@@t.roberts god comes before science, there is no science without god. lol science science cant explain the soul and creation and dont tell me "big bang"
How hard it must be to hear this😢
What was the shooter even sitting there writing down when all of this was said? Was he sitting there drawing or something because he couldn’t handle it ? Prayers for all the people who have had to experience a loss. 🙏🏽
god bless everyone during these times😭
Or putting him in a locked room for just an hour with all the grieving parents would be acceptable as well!
I like how that sounds!!! Totally deserved
I like how they do it in the Middle East where they bury them to the chest and have them throw rocks at the convict until death.
yep!!
27:11 beautiful Gina Montalto's dad... I think he could do it on his own. Mom's pain is torturous. These poor parents.
AGREE. Now that would be some justice for them. He dished it out so let him take it. Let him feel some terror and fear. But I'm sure someone at prison already knows when he's going to be there. Then he will probably live in fear every day for the rest of his life.
Why oh why do these already grief stricken parents have to endure anymore pain an suffering by hearing the details of how they're children were killed. I pray 🙏🏼 🤲 for them.
I can't imagine sitting there watching this go on for even one day, much less day after day for weeks.
So heartbreaking for all these Families listen to this and knowing how their own child was killed and not to show any emotions and tears How can anyone asked that being a parent yourself These Families has a lot of support and a Friendship that can't be broken but hearing this is so devastating heart-wrenching my deepest sympathy and my deepest condolences I am so sorry this ever happened because it never should have Great Judge for holding it together and remaining calm because this isn't easy for anyone to hear again my Deepest Condolences to everyone involved School Teaches all the Students and Family Members Law Enforcement s and Hospitals and this Court
He executed that girl. I don't often have these thoughts, but an eye for an eye crosses my mind so strongly in these cases.
I must admit iam morbidly transfixed by this sentencing, I'm trying to make sense of something which is perhaps impossible to make sense of
The only way I made it through this was reminding myself as hard as it was for me it was infinitely worse for those families and friends
This testimonial that this guy is going to give will be heartbreaking to the parents who lost children in this incident of 2014 but things like this have to take part in the order of the trial. God bless their souls x
2018. February. This medical examiner is top notch/ professional/ together.GOD BLESS these children, and their grieving blessed parents. I cannot imagine. Horrific.
Nick is very disturbed.we have to now pay for his food and medical bills as he does life
I use to type these reports for our county pathologists/coroners. As a parent, I can’t imagine listening to such details! These reports are very detailed! Knowing what I know, one describes being shot through the heart!
Heart, brain, spinal cord were parts that were shot.
I do not understand why court rooms must make victim's parent's sit and listen to brutal ways in which they're babies were savagely murdered by a monster. How does hearing this change any part of what he did to all of these poor innocent babies, sittin there quietly listening would be out of my abilities. If i heard these depictions of how my baby was murdered i wouldn't be sitting there long before i would lose my mind. Also they knew he murdered them and so ill never understand what explaining all of their wounds that caused their deaths would not matter as much to me as the fact that no matter in what way they we're killed they'll never see their babies again or be able to watch them graduate high or get married have children. Their futures stolen from them because this sicko had a vendetta against his past and decided to take it out on innocent children who had not a thing to do with his past . He is a mental psychotic madman and deserves to endure years of constant reminding of what he has done. I was bullied in school, nearly tortured and i still couldn't imagine even having the thought of hurting another human being for any reason. He has destroyed so many lives and he will never know exactly how he changed all their lives. God be with these precious families. My thoughts and prayers are with them all. 🙏 ❤
Gosh my heart goes out to their loved ones😔😔
A senseless act of cruelty
I wonder if they polled the victim families how many would want death penalty vs. life in prison.
that's a good question. i was wondering the same thing.
All the parents look extremely broken and sad. What a horrific ordeal
Joaquin Oliver has a beautiful mother and Sister, I’m sure he was just as beautiful. So tragic.
I feel so sorry for the coroner, so hard to be so calm.
How long is this Goin to continue
These poor parents.