Ok, a few comments saying that ACTUALLY it's carbon fiber...it's not plastic...it's not cheap...it's a space age design that uses the same material that supercars use. It's polycarbonate (plastic) reinforced with carbon fiber. Does it still feel plasticky as a result? It's reinforced plastic, why wouldn't it feel like plastic. Space age? Dunno, they landed on the moon ages ago. Before my time. But carbon fiber reinforced plastic has been used on the Nikon D5300 before and I don't remember anyone from the internets making such a fuss about it. But, hey, I like that it's light in weight and that it's a really bloody good camera, alright? The BMPCC 4K that is, not the D5300. 👍
Wow I am currently using a D5300 for video and was looking to upgrade to one of these 4K camera. But I guess lack of a tilting screen is a deal breaker for me, so will most probably go with GH5. Really wish that this had the tilting screen (which I know can be added externally).
& the carbon fibre chassis... ;) "...The highly compact form factor features a carbon fiber reinforced composite body that makes it extremely durable and lightweight so you can take it anywhere..."
Kai has a fun style reviewing and he nails an important point. He makes the important distinction of how this camera is designed for professional video and offers many conveniences and the logic you would find in other cinema cameras. Not to say hybrid cameras can't shoot video professionally of course. It's up to individual shooting style but with the pocket4K you get into the mentality that can make you comfortable working with any cinema camera with a production team including Arri and RED with just a few minutes for learning the menus of those systems. If you are coming from a stills camera mentality that learning curve can be much harsher and a lot of crucial parts of the professional cinema production process are not that obvious at first.
@@TheLokCheung Come to Cornwall, bring the bmpcc4k with you, hang out at the studio & we'll shoot a bmpcc vs bmpcc4k fight or something! Not a real fight you know; but a camera comparison; I'd hate to see all that plastic breaking.
I've been using it for a couple of weeks now and my overall feeling is it's a lot like the GH5 and Ursa Mini had a baby! - It's light, but a better weight with a cage on it. - The screen is quite inconvenient and I'll need to get a second monitor for sure. - If Blackmagic made an affordable viewfinder for it, they would sell like....BMPCC4Ks. - The batteries haven't been too much of an issue so far. We used 4 batteries for a one day shoot and that was fine, but for interviews an external battery option is a must. - I'm way more likely to shoot raw now that I can record to an affordable SSD drive. - It's not for everyone, certainly not good for vlogging but if you are an aspiring filmmaker or have a small production house, it makes sense. The most important thing is the image is unbeatable at it's size and price!
yeah love my gh5s, build quality rocks, and 10 bit internal is good, but it's not raw. it'd be a really straightforward upgrade to have that. just got a Sound Devices mixpre 6 and it's an audio equivalent..for lowish price, missing some bells and whistles, you get magic pre-amps that give you sound you can push to the nth degree in post and attain broadcast or cinema quality.
Seems like a watered down GH5 to me. I don't see an appeal in it due to already owning a GH5, but if I were just starting out the price point would be hard to beat. M43 lenses are some of the most expensive on the market though so you may think you're getting a great price until you start needing more than a kit lens for anything.
I used this on a commercial shoot a few weeks ago and it is UNBELIEVABLY good. The image is one of the best I've seen, especially with the new Blackmagic LUTs. The screen is great, I could nail focus without peaking because the definition was that good. And although by no means will fit in your pocket, its still super lightweight and small considering what you get. Honestly this paired with a speedbooster you've got a set up punching way above its price.
Finally someone going after the fact that everyone's annoyed that "photo" cameras aren't doing high enough quality video. Don't like it? Get a video camera :D
One awesome thing about it, that no-one mentions, is it's based off an FPGA processor. So firmware updates are actually HARDWARE updates. They physically change the way the hardware works. This is insane for new features and it's how they could add BM Raw after it was released.
I watched A TON of reviews for the BMCCP 4k, literally, but NOBODY ever mentioned that you can use the AC wall outlet to power your camera, for example for studio shooting. I wanted to buy the BMCCP4K for the competitive price, for the features and davinci, but I was worried I was going to need to buy very big power banks. Nobody, I repeat, ever said sh*t about this awesome possibility. I wonder why.... Thanks Kai.
I don't know why people don't talk about the xlr input more when talking about this camera. That is so useful. No more external recorders to have to sync up in post. Saves so much time.
Just wait when Black Magic Raw comes to this camera! Much more efficient than current raw (Black Magic Raw already on Ursa Mini, same version coming soon for bmpcc 4k).
Kai as usually takes care about the detailed stuff which is in 99% irritating in regular camera usage when you just bought from the store. Great stuff man, you always make this videos for people. Keep it coming!
I got excited by the amazing quality, got very excited by the amount of times he mentioned how good it was for the money... then checked the price... then realized I still can't afford it...
Such a good cam. Been shooting with it for a month now and love it. Easily the best value on the market for a video camera. I also don't mind the look, it is quite confortable to shoot with and the image is insane :).
So basically you get an affordable camera then have to invest $2-3k for decent lenses. M43 lenses are some of the most expensive on the market. I own a Gh5 and shelling out money for lenses hurts my soul. I recently purchased a Sigma 16mm f/1.4 and that's the best bang for your buck in that lens format currently, sadly. While EF lenses are easily in the $50-$100 range used all the time. In terms of price, EF > Sony E > M43. My only regret with using M43 is the expensive lens selection. And given how horrendously the GH5 focuses with an adaptor or speedbooster, I imagine the BMPCC probably has similar issues with using non-native lenses on an adaptor. You'd have to sacrifice fast and accurate focusing for a cheaper lens selection.
@@JoaquimGonsalves I have a G9 after 10 years of Canon. I recommend the Viltrox speed booster because it's cheap and will allow your M43 camera to access more light from your canon glass - although I have not tested it with EF-S (I only have full frame glass). If you only have EF-S glass and no FF glass, then get a cheap adaptor with no conversion. It's cheap and there will be no optical degradation. I'm loving the results with my FF glass on my MFT G9.
Kai! You've finally settled into your new channel and you're charming again! When you first started the channel-it felt like you lost the charm and humor from when you were on that other channel. But now I'm gonna watch all your vids! Keep up the laughs! (Too bad you can't ruin cameras anymore though 😆)
Canon is a nightmare. They have the technology to give us the best camera ever, but if they did that, no one would by their C-series cameras. Horrible company, although still better than Apple and RED.
it depends how much you arne't in the range by, because there are more cameras in between these options, like alot of sony professional ranges or cannon c100, 200, 300
Thanks for doing an actual sane review of this unit. Basically, BMD calls it a cine camera and they give you image capture that's in the same class as a $20K camera body - yet people complain because they still have to get accessories like a gimbal or an external monitor and powerpack to build a full custom rig. Honestly, people are just ungrateful and STUPID (TM). Basically, this thing combined with the bundled studio version of Davinci Resolve and BRAW (which BMD did not change hundreds for a firmware update to have) is fucking 10 Christmases coming at one - yet spoilt brats still want to bitch and moan LOL. Thanks for doing a grownup review. Keep up the good work.
I just hope that BMD doesn't give up on catering to the low end of the market due to the fact that so many STUPID people seem to occupy it and then make YT videos to put their stupidity on display.
This is going to be 2018's Panasonic MS1. Bring the skatevideos back again ;). Loving the footage from the BMPCCQEROIUPAFIP, get one. It's ridiculously good.
Not only the name of the camera is huge but also the file sizes: 5.8GB per minute for 4K video... and it can get to 16.2GB in CinemaDNG RAW, that's absolutely insane! Is there really any visible advantage to shoot and work with such exquisite codec with humongous bit rates and massively large files?! That thing is going to make SD card makers rich all by itself!!!
The potential of RAW is not it's image quality because compared to Prores you can't see much a difference but it gives you way more options and flexibility when it comes to post. (Color grading, Recovery, Keying, etc.) Never shoot losless CDNG Raw... Just wait for BRAW and shoot Prores or if you need it DNG 4:1 You can't get the High quality with smaller files.
@@evantracysounds768 Yes, I know... but it's not just about space, it's also about extra computing resources and time needed to process and work with such huge files, and as far as I know, that format isn't yet widely implemented in cinematography. For the moment it seems like a nightmare job to work with this camera, even if it may very well be "the best" video camera for the price.
The uncompressed bit rate for a 1920 x 1080 50i (4:2:2) digital image stream is 1.485 gigabits per second. The full chroma resolution version (4:4:4 sampling) is around 11.88 gigabits per second. (www.ti.com/lit/an/snla232/snla232.pdf) That's around 8.9 gigabytes of disk space for 1 minute of Full HD (1920 x 1080,50i 4:2:2) video, uncompressed. 4K would be around 35 GB per minute. The "exquisite codecs" are the h264 and mpeg 4 compression algorithms which bring the data rate down to 5 or 10 Mbps. RAW and CinemaDNG are not "insane" they are truer to the actual image being read from the camera sensor. They contain information and detail thrown out by the mpeg compression software, such as chrominance resolution, motion etc. Those highly compressed codecs are very good, but as a delivery mechanism. For professional post production you need less compression. If you are doing highly complex CGI integration with "green screen", the last thing you want is the chroma keying to have artifacts on the MPEG sample block boundaries when there is fast action. Editing software generally works faster with the less compressed codecs (presuming you have fast disk drives) as there is less processor overhead in decoding highly compressed MPEG source streams. I generally convert all my source footage (which may come from Canon 5D, 300C, 80D, GoPro, OSMO, etc) to ProRes422 and edit in ProRes, before converting the final export to the desire delivery format. For some jobs this might be VimeoHD, for other jobs an MXF wrapped 50Mbs broadcast file.
I was really hoping the BMPCC4K was the one for me. But I feel like the A7III is more suitable for run and gun shooting which is what I do 3 out of 4 times.
A lot of Sony likes on this page.. I was holding out for another price break on the D750,... but man I hear the sony name alot. I can only afford the A711 ,,, is that good enough for full frame DSLR,, and Video?
I wish the Panasonic G7 got more love from you. $500 for a 4K MFT camera with 14-42mm stabilized kit lens? Yes please. The GH5 is really nice, but the G7 is massively lighter and cheaper with comparable video quality.
I upgraded from a Canon T3i about one year ago. I waited until the G7 went on sale from $797 to $497 (USD) and decided to go ahead and just buy two of them. I bought 2 for roughly $1,000 instead of one for roughly $800, so I basically upgraded to a 3 camera set up for an extra $200! B&H seems to run that sale often, too.
I don't consider this a beginner video camera at all. If you're just starting out making videos, get a Panasonic G85 or G95. I think that's a great beginner video camera that can still deliver great results. I use a G85 as a beginner in video, and I love it. The IBIS, fully articulating screen, and photo/video hybrid qualities of it are ideal for people just starting out shooting video. The price is pretty hard to beat as well. This camera is a specialized tool that belongs on a movie set...maybe independent films, but it definitely requires a lot of work, skill, and rigging to get the most out of it. This is a camera that is most at home on a tripod with ideal lighting.
@@nordfresse Thank you. It is a bit frustrating because there has not been a robust demonstration of the 10-bit N-Log yet. The tid bits I have seen so far do look good though.
The main reason this will be my next camera is for the upcoming Blackmagic RAW. Anyone who is currently trying to edit video with Sony 8 bit should be looking at this camera.
Even if I agree with you on the awesomeness of the BMPCC4K, I've learned one thing these last few years: Never trust a Canon fanboy. They're either sellouts or have poor judgement...
Glad you came to see how the 'plastic' in this case is super tough, lightweight, and completely appropriate carbon fiber composite -- a 21st century material ideal for rugged applications. Indeed, old-timers are impressed by a camera that weighs a ton, is awkward to handle, and cost a king's ransom. But as it turns out, such attributes are no longer major selling points.
I am amazed that you are the first "mainstream" photography person to actually review this camera. This Black Magic camera may be a bit of a "joke" as far as build quality and design is concerned but in terms of being wholly aimed around the function and output, exactly what you want a video camera for, it is spot on plus the price is ridiculously low for "real cinema" type footage. Their software is pretty good too !
Apparently it's not far off now, well..The World Trade Organisation are in talks due to pressure from USA ( EU's tariff 5.4% duty On video cameras ) have a read on it.
Check out the Panasonic GH series. They've been making mirrorless cameras with no record time limits for years. The GH5 and GH5s are probably the two most popular models right now. :D
I don't even need this but now I want one. I've actually been eyeing it for awhile just for the price alone. Damn steal, especially as it comes with Resolve.
Just received the camera, but i can tell you one thing: if you don't have the money, it will be a while before you can begin taking videos. It requires numerous additional batteries; lens_gimbol and brakets: a very large SSD rapid hard drive all will cost you(second hand items are a must): Once assembled, however, there is so much to appreciate about this unit. The interface is very user-friendly, but excellent tutorials are required to set up the unite. It is my first camera, and I am learning daily
Please do more challenge videos for photographers with not high end gear. Those are some of the most inspiring videos seeing great photographers put together great work with entry level gear.
I have to say when it comes to video cameras in terms of ergonomics I miss the Betacams... Perfectly heavy and yet perfectly balanced doing some walking shots... No problem but with these toys... I mean good image but I really hate clunky shoulder rigs etc. Beta was on your shoulder or on sticks without having to reconfigure stuff...
photojournalistsf XT3 is best of both worlds. Shooting RAW is cool because of the flexibility, but having 10bit 4:2:2 in the XT3 is good enough for online content, I’m think of picking up an XT3 to replace my a7rii and a7sii, unless I wait for the a7siii with 10bit and better color science but highly doubt it
X-T3 is definitely the best for fast fieldwork, but for the technically-conscious the Blackmagic has broadcast features not available to hybrids (except the GH-series to some extent). I certainly agree that Fuji is the way to go for both photographers and videographers who focus on nimble imaging and release rather than production-heavy modes of operation, though.
... it’s not the sensor size that determines the quality of the shadow/noise. It’s the pixels.
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@@The_Guth Be warned! XT3 is 10 bit 4:2:0, not 4:2:2! It's only outputs to HDMI the better chroma/color data. But still, both are amazing tools! I'll go with the pocket 4k.
1. Vlogging can be cinematic too, and it can have cinematic b roll shots 2. Even people making cinematic film would benefit from a fully articulating screen 3. The guy over the black magic cinema camera said that it would be rhe perfect camera for vlogging. He was wrong
Darth Nihilus you can say that all you want but one of the people over it specifically said it was the perfect vlogging camera so your point is mute. All of the people you see reviewing this camera are people who do vlogs
@@jeffmurnahan The individual making the claim that it's the perfect vlogging camera is just wrong, regardless of his position at BM. Companies will make claims about their products that aren't entirely accurate to increase market appeal, but an informed consumer shouldn't put any stock in those claims. It is strictly a cinema camera. For some non-vlogger reviews and real world examples of it in use as it was intended (with a fair amount of humor added) check out ruclips.net/user/darkfablemedia
eire138 I put more weight into the claims of what people over this camera say more than what random youtube commenter says about what the camera is suppose to be. At the price range a large chunk of its users will be vloggers, people over it said it was the perfect vlogging camera. Besides that, it doesn't matter, cinema cameras should have image stabilization, great autofocus and a flip out screen to see what you're filming at high and low angles
I don't get the design hate. Sure, plasticky is meh, but this is the most beautiful looking camera in years. So simplistic, so clean! Like old Braun products. Anyone with me? :p
Yes. Its nice. But: It should have has a VIDEO or CINE form factor. Like the BM micro cinema. A lot like the ZCAM E2. The box, and maybe a screen. But NOT THIS DSLR form factor which sucks. And the design id s little too futuristic
It may seem plasticky but it's really a carbon fiber/polycarbonate composite which is why it's so light. After putting a cage on mine it feels like it's at a good weight now.
Carbon fibre just like those plastic Formula1 cars. Had mine for a while. Favourite camera to date. Once it gets BRAW it will be my perfect camera. Added a few bits and pieces but nothing compared to the first version, which was also an awesome camera. Like everyone else has said, plus $300 of resolve for free.
At the end of 2018 it just feel like micro 4/3 is on its last legs. Not sure I would want to buy into a system where the end of new lenses is in the forseeable future.
4/3 cameras will be the first to get better features even in the future, due to less overheating issues. You don't need to buy into their lenses, you can get a speed booster which will give you a S35 equivalent. Then you also can enjoy the upside of using smaller 4/3 lenses with more reach should you want a smaller set up. TV shows like The Walking Dead are shot on 16mm which is even smaller than Micro 4/3 which just goes to show sensor size isn't everything.
M43 mounts has more lens options than probably any other mount. There are things called adapters and speedboosters. You can get aps-c, super 35, and even full frame like footage with speedboosters. I would argue m43 mounts are here to stay.
It's actually carbon reinforced polymer plastic, which is completely different to normal carbon fiber. It's a bit better than normal plastic, but doesn't come close to the strength of carbon fiber.
@@RedHatMedia When something is said to be made of "carbon fibre" it simply means carbon reinforced polymer as the carbon fibre itself is in form of a woven material which can't be used on it's own but in combination with plastic to form a composite material. So, my initial assertion still stands. Carbon reinforced polymer is what someone people call "carbon fibre" because it has carbon fibres in it. So this camera and Lamborghini aventador are made of the same material. No one is inferior to the other just that the shell of the BMPCC 4k would contain fewer layers of the carbon fibre material for a thinner mold.
NewEsc Because it's a camera that gives you the opportunity to take control of it and make most out of it which can only be done in filmmaking where you can be in a position to take charge. When you are youtubing if that's even a word you can't be..you need too much auto auto auto..I guess.
I worked on a pilot a couple weeks ago as the B cam op, using this camera (A cam was an ursa mini 4.6k) We had some 8+ minute long takes with no overheating issues.
She is currently based in Melbourne and is active on instagram. She has her own youtube channel but only posts stuff extremely rarely. instagram.com/alambyl/
Did you just call me a slot slut? I'm deeply honored. I also saw the camera for the first time in one of your vids. You make a case. In an imperfect world here is another imperfect camera, but at least it's a cheaper imperfect camera. Yes changing from stills to video with my A7rii makes me forget where I am and what I'm doing. Bad Bad Sony. TYG my daily driver is m9 which feels the same way about video as the brown magic does about stills. I have also been learning video in the last year, it's been fun to watch all the usual suspects get up to video speed at the same time. Even Huff can do it now :)
ConCoClem auto focus is shit on black magic, but the video quality is actually more detailed on XT3, only thing the magic has over is a slightly higher dynamic range...
@@notyetperfect6769 and 12 bit raw, in camera luts, xlr connection, dual iso, clapperboard metadata, larger screen, false color... No one is better, they are just different.
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Ok, a few comments saying that ACTUALLY it's carbon fiber...it's not plastic...it's not cheap...it's a space age design that uses the same material that supercars use. It's polycarbonate (plastic) reinforced with carbon fiber. Does it still feel plasticky as a result? It's reinforced plastic, why wouldn't it feel like plastic. Space age? Dunno, they landed on the moon ages ago. Before my time. But carbon fiber reinforced plastic has been used on the Nikon D5300 before and I don't remember anyone from the internets making such a fuss about it. But, hey, I like that it's light in weight and that it's a really bloody good camera, alright? The BMPCC 4K that is, not the D5300. 👍
I have it, it does feel cheap, but you can't argue with the quality, so oh well. Just deal with your insecurities needing it to feel like a tank haha
It's amazing that something we use to scrape off toast, is now being used to make supercars, and other things.
Wow I am currently using a D5300 for video and was looking to upgrade to one of these 4K camera. But I guess lack of a tilting screen is a deal breaker for me, so will most probably go with GH5. Really wish that this had the tilting screen (which I know can be added externally).
@@TechReflex Well, clearly I'll believe this, being that I bought the BMPCC4K but they're very different beasts.
TechReflex Your camera is space age apparently so keep it
forgot to mention that you get Davinci Resolve 15 with it for free
Yeah, in fact the full version not the free version. Just such a goddamn bargain.
I test the free one . Dont like iT its a no go
Resolve is perfect .
& the carbon fibre chassis... ;)
"...The highly compact form factor features a carbon fiber reinforced composite body that makes it extremely durable and lightweight so you can take it anywhere..."
Almost made me spit out my drink. That's a good deal!
Kai has a fun style reviewing and he nails an important point. He makes the important distinction of how this camera is designed for professional video and offers many conveniences and the logic you would find in other cinema cameras. Not to say hybrid cameras can't shoot video professionally of course. It's up to individual shooting style but with the pocket4K you get into the mentality that can make you comfortable working with any cinema camera with a production team including Arri and RED with just a few minutes for learning the menus of those systems. If you are coming from a stills camera mentality that learning curve can be much harsher and a lot of crucial parts of the professional cinema production process are not that obvious at first.
Great inputs! Thank you!
I love how Kai makes fun of the internet's obsession with 2 card slots every chance he gets
its like people forgot that just 10 years ago this stuff wasn't standard and people got along just fine.
A little Blackadder's Prince Regent in there too...
@@syty747 or that you can't just use the video out slot into a recorder if it's that important to you, because youre such a pro.
And crop crop crop crop....
IT a funny one 😁
“Lucky for all those slot sluts” lmao I lost it 😂
Antonio Rodriguez 😂😂
That got me too 🤓
same! almost spilled my tea haha
You've got a Top Gear style of critiquing, love it.
WOW I didn't even realised the price until now! That's cheaper than most (if not all??) of those full frame mirrorless cameras!
OMG it"s like nobody noticed Lok had commented? Whats wong with the wold. Lok I appreciate your comment ! PS: please upload more regularly
Haha may be because I replied a bit late
@@TheLokCheung Come to Cornwall, bring the bmpcc4k with you, hang out at the studio & we'll shoot a bmpcc vs bmpcc4k fight or something! Not a real fight you know; but a camera comparison; I'd hate to see all that plastic breaking.
Whats the recording limit on one of these?
@@CYBERDECIMAL I'm pretty sure it's unlimited as it is classed as a video camera. Your limits will be storage & more likely, battery life!!
I've been using it for a couple of weeks now and my overall feeling is it's a lot like the GH5 and Ursa Mini had a baby!
- It's light, but a better weight with a cage on it.
- The screen is quite inconvenient and I'll need to get a second monitor for sure.
- If Blackmagic made an affordable viewfinder for it, they would sell like....BMPCC4Ks.
- The batteries haven't been too much of an issue so far. We used 4 batteries for a one day shoot and that was fine, but for interviews an external battery option is a must.
- I'm way more likely to shoot raw now that I can record to an affordable SSD drive.
- It's not for everyone, certainly not good for vlogging but if you are an aspiring filmmaker or have a small production house, it makes sense.
The most important thing is the image is unbeatable at it's size and price!
yeah love my gh5s, build quality rocks, and 10 bit internal is good, but it's not raw. it'd be a really straightforward upgrade to have that.
just got a Sound Devices mixpre 6 and it's an audio equivalent..for lowish price, missing some bells and whistles, you get magic pre-amps that give you sound you can push to the nth degree in post and attain broadcast or cinema quality.
Seems like a cage is necessary. Stick an external battery,sad and monitor and all its issues are gone
Can you record whilst charging from a usb-c powerpack? Thanks for the impressions :)
Seems like a watered down GH5 to me. I don't see an appeal in it due to already owning a GH5, but if I were just starting out the price point would be hard to beat. M43 lenses are some of the most expensive on the market though so you may think you're getting a great price until you start needing more than a kit lens for anything.
How about the Pause button ? can we use it? coz i had alot of problem using my canon to filming.i got much pause to do
Man, I love your work. Since you've been on your own you've just gotten exponentially better.
I used this on a commercial shoot a few weeks ago and it is UNBELIEVABLY good. The image is one of the best I've seen, especially with the new Blackmagic LUTs. The screen is great, I could nail focus without peaking because the definition was that good. And although by no means will fit in your pocket, its still super lightweight and small considering what you get. Honestly this paired with a speedbooster you've got a set up punching way above its price.
"pocketable for who?
A T rex"
FUCKING killed me
Ever heard of JNCO jeans?
Looks like a Sega Game Gear with a lens sticking out of it
Ha! Yes!! I know it looked familiar to me and this is spot on, hahaha.
+1 And it is a good design. Sega was best in industial design back than. I want more tech with same design
Oh, how sweet it is to be thirty-something!
Lol
Similar battery life too by the sounds of it! Great way to burn 6 AA batteries in an hour.
Finally someone going after the fact that everyone's annoyed that "photo" cameras aren't doing high enough quality video. Don't like it? Get a video camera :D
One awesome thing about it, that no-one mentions, is it's based off an FPGA processor. So firmware updates are actually HARDWARE updates. They physically change the way the hardware works. This is insane for new features and it's how they could add BM Raw after it was released.
I watched A TON of reviews for the BMCCP 4k, literally, but NOBODY ever mentioned that you can use the AC wall outlet to power your camera, for example for studio shooting. I wanted to buy the BMCCP4K for the competitive price, for the features and davinci, but I was worried I was going to need to buy very big power banks. Nobody, I repeat, ever said sh*t about this awesome possibility. I wonder why.... Thanks Kai.
I don't know why people don't talk about the xlr input more when talking about this camera. That is so useful. No more external recorders to have to sync up in post. Saves so much time.
takes five seconds to sync audio in premiere these days
Record RAW internally on that price point? ALRIGHT IMMA GET IT
and directly to SSD ;)
Just wait when Black Magic Raw comes to this camera! Much more efficient than current raw (Black Magic Raw already on Ursa Mini, same version coming soon for bmpcc 4k).
Kai as usually takes care about the detailed stuff which is in 99% irritating in regular camera usage when you just bought from the store. Great stuff man, you always make this videos for people. Keep it coming!
To this day, Kai is said to be still trying to get that flap closed
I got excited by the amazing quality, got very excited by the amount of times he mentioned how good it was for the money... then checked the price... then realized I still can't afford it...
Dan Odden 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Such a good cam. Been shooting with it for a month now and love it. Easily the best value on the market for a video camera. I also don't mind the look, it is quite confortable to shoot with and the image is insane :).
That's wonderful! Does it take EF-S lenses? What's the cost like for EF to BMPCC adapters?
Joaquim Gonsalves Hi, it doesn’t take EFs lenses as it is a M43 Mount but you can buy an adapter as cheap as $30 :)
So basically you get an affordable camera then have to invest $2-3k for decent lenses. M43 lenses are some of the most expensive on the market. I own a Gh5 and shelling out money for lenses hurts my soul. I recently purchased a Sigma 16mm f/1.4 and that's the best bang for your buck in that lens format currently, sadly. While EF lenses are easily in the $50-$100 range used all the time. In terms of price, EF > Sony E > M43. My only regret with using M43 is the expensive lens selection. And given how horrendously the GH5 focuses with an adaptor or speedbooster, I imagine the BMPCC probably has similar issues with using non-native lenses on an adaptor. You'd have to sacrifice fast and accurate focusing for a cheaper lens selection.
@@ConnorLipke spoken like a true beginner to videography.
Lenses cost money, boo fuckn hoo. This has been the case for 50 years.. lol
@@JoaquimGonsalves I have a G9 after 10 years of Canon. I recommend the Viltrox speed booster because it's cheap and will allow your M43 camera to access more light from your canon glass - although I have not tested it with EF-S (I only have full frame glass). If you only have EF-S glass and no FF glass, then get a cheap adaptor with no conversion. It's cheap and there will be no optical degradation. I'm loving the results with my FF glass on my MFT G9.
Kai! You've finally settled into your new channel and you're charming again! When you first started the channel-it felt like you lost the charm and humor from when you were on that other channel. But now I'm gonna watch all your vids! Keep up the laughs! (Too bad you can't ruin cameras anymore though 😆)
Canon EOS R crop crop crop crop 😂🤣
was looking for this!
Stephen Ukadike EOSR crops less than this
Canon is a nightmare. They have the technology to give us the best camera ever, but if they did that, no one would by their C-series cameras. Horrible company, although still better than Apple and RED.
I love your reviews. As a new photographer/Videographer, I’ve pretty much learned everything that I know from you.
Sweet! I got my d750 for photos and now I’ll get this for video! Plus it comes with a full version of resolve 15 NLE!
I love Kai’s reviews. I love the way he compares cameras to anything like « it looks like thoses Hi-Fi from the 90s »
Damn I absolutely want to get this camera, thanks for the video, made in just in time.
Yes sir! Bring back the best of the comedy in our photography world
You are my favorite camera industry personality!!!!!
Dalvin-Earl Nichols i know only Kai and Lok. Is there anyone else?🤔
Yes!! Bring back the varied stuff! The old Dig Rev stuff was amazing!
If you are looking for a really good video camera but not in the range of Alexa or RED this is the perfect camera.
We like the FS5 as well!
it depends how much you arne't in the range by, because there are more cameras in between these options, like alot of sony professional ranges or cannon c100, 200, 300
Tried that cam at IBC, extremely comfortable to hold and frame, light and very easy to hold steady, they got it right
Thanks for doing an actual sane review of this unit. Basically, BMD calls it a cine camera and they give you image capture that's in the same class as a $20K camera body - yet people complain because they still have to get accessories like a gimbal or an external monitor and powerpack to build a full custom rig. Honestly, people are just ungrateful and STUPID (TM). Basically, this thing combined with the bundled studio version of Davinci Resolve and BRAW (which BMD did not change hundreds for a firmware update to have) is fucking 10 Christmases coming at one - yet spoilt brats still want to bitch and moan LOL.
Thanks for doing a grownup review. Keep up the good work.
I just hope that BMD doesn't give up on catering to the low end of the market due to the fact that so many STUPID people seem to occupy it and then make YT videos to put their stupidity on display.
Well, this is one of my favorite RUclips channels.
Kai never ceases to entertain me.
how am I just finding his channel, I've been watching him on digitalrev for years
This is going to be 2018's Panasonic MS1.
Bring the skatevideos back again ;).
Loving the footage from the BMPCCQEROIUPAFIP, get one. It's ridiculously good.
i can't believe that voice is coming out of that face
That's a good price! - sidenote: I am glad you opened your own channel, Kai! Best of luck!
Not only the name of the camera is huge but also the file sizes: 5.8GB per minute for 4K video... and it can get to 16.2GB in CinemaDNG RAW, that's absolutely insane! Is there really any visible advantage to shoot and work with such exquisite codec with humongous bit rates and massively large files?! That thing is going to make SD card makers rich all by itself!!!
The potential of RAW is not it's image quality because compared to Prores you can't see much a difference but it gives you way more options and flexibility when it comes to post. (Color grading, Recovery, Keying, etc.)
Never shoot losless CDNG Raw... Just wait for BRAW and shoot Prores or if you need it DNG 4:1
You can't get the High quality with smaller files.
thats part of why you can record directly to external hard drive as well. They're more than aware of how big the files from RAW and ProRes are.
@@evantracysounds768 Yes, I know... but it's not just about space, it's also about extra computing resources and time needed to process and work with such huge files, and as far as I know, that format isn't yet widely implemented in cinematography. For the moment it seems like a nightmare job to work with this camera, even if it may very well be "the best" video camera for the price.
The uncompressed bit rate for a 1920 x 1080 50i (4:2:2) digital image stream is 1.485 gigabits per second.
The full chroma resolution version (4:4:4 sampling) is around 11.88 gigabits per second.
(www.ti.com/lit/an/snla232/snla232.pdf)
That's around 8.9 gigabytes of disk space for 1 minute of Full HD (1920 x 1080,50i 4:2:2) video, uncompressed.
4K would be around 35 GB per minute.
The "exquisite codecs" are the h264 and mpeg 4 compression algorithms which bring the data rate down to 5 or 10 Mbps.
RAW and CinemaDNG are not "insane" they are truer to the actual image being read from the camera sensor.
They contain information and detail thrown out by the mpeg compression software, such as chrominance resolution, motion etc.
Those highly compressed codecs are very good, but as a delivery mechanism. For professional post production you need less compression.
If you are doing highly complex CGI integration with "green screen", the last thing you want is the chroma keying to have artifacts on the MPEG sample block boundaries when there is fast action.
Editing software generally works faster with the less compressed codecs (presuming you have fast disk drives) as there is less processor overhead in decoding highly compressed MPEG source streams.
I generally convert all my source footage (which may come from Canon 5D, 300C, 80D, GoPro, OSMO, etc) to ProRes422 and edit in ProRes, before converting the final export to the desire delivery format. For some jobs this might be VimeoHD, for other jobs an MXF wrapped 50Mbs broadcast file.
@@thetys4659 And BRAW is now on the BMPC4K
just wanna put it out there man, love your channel dude! lmaoooo your sense of humor and classic reviews keep me coming back every time!!
I was waiting for this guy to do this camera
Great presenter I can’t help but feeling like his voice is a voice over of a British top gear presenter lol cheers from the states
Awesome review of an awesome camera. I am really looking forward to have one copy of it here to shoot with it and have a short review.
Been waiting for Kai's take on this camera like forever..only Lok left now.
I was really hoping the BMPCC4K was the one for me. But I feel like the A7III is more suitable for run and gun shooting which is what I do 3 out of 4 times.
Each tool has a purpose
Check out the new soon to come Nikon Z6.
A lot of Sony likes on this page.. I was holding out for another price break on the D750,... but man I hear the sony name alot. I can only afford the A711 ,,, is that good enough for full frame DSLR,, and Video?
I'm glad videos like this exist
I wish the Panasonic G7 got more love from you. $500 for a 4K MFT camera with 14-42mm stabilized kit lens? Yes please. The GH5 is really nice, but the G7 is massively lighter and cheaper with comparable video quality.
I upgraded from a Canon T3i about one year ago. I waited until the G7 went on sale from $797 to $497 (USD) and decided to go ahead and just buy two of them. I bought 2 for roughly $1,000 instead of one for roughly $800, so I basically upgraded to a 3 camera set up for an extra $200! B&H seems to run that sale often, too.
@@MarkMooseFilmmaking Oh yeah, a G7 kit for $500 is quite common at this point! Glad you've been enjoying the G7 as much as I have :-)
This is the best video you have made in a very long time. It is great to see!
you definitely should be the voice over of Nat Geo or some Travel Channel
Kez did i said anything abt chinese?
tell me
I don't consider this a beginner video camera at all. If you're just starting out making videos, get a Panasonic G85 or G95. I think that's a great beginner video camera that can still deliver great results. I use a G85 as a beginner in video, and I love it. The IBIS, fully articulating screen, and photo/video hybrid qualities of it are ideal for people just starting out shooting video. The price is pretty hard to beat as well.
This camera is a specialized tool that belongs on a movie set...maybe independent films, but it definitely requires a lot of work, skill, and rigging to get the most out of it. This is a camera that is most at home on a tripod with ideal lighting.
Nice vid Kai. How did the 4k picture compare to that of the Nikon Z7's N-Log?
slashcam just did a Z7 n-log video, looks very good indeed. I still think this is the better package, also hoping that bmraw is coming to it soon.
@@nordfresse Thank you. It is a bit frustrating because there has not been a robust demonstration of the 10-bit N-Log yet. The tid bits I have seen so far do look good though.
The main reason this will be my next camera is for the upcoming Blackmagic RAW. Anyone who is currently trying to edit video with Sony 8 bit should be looking at this camera.
Even if I agree with you on the awesomeness of the BMPCC4K, I've learned one thing these last few years: Never trust a Canon fanboy. They're either sellouts or have poor judgement...
Glad you came to see how the 'plastic' in this case is super tough, lightweight, and completely appropriate carbon fiber composite -- a 21st century material ideal for rugged applications. Indeed, old-timers are impressed by a camera that weighs a ton, is awkward to handle, and cost a king's ransom. But as it turns out, such attributes are no longer major selling points.
It looks like a very expensive dash cam 😂
It looks like you found yourself funny.
Nailed it!
VFX Todd it looks like u got salted
Can you run it off the cigarette lighter though?
Wkwkww jancukkkk
First time on this channel.
I can listen to this cat speak for hours.
And charming presentation.
Subcribed and recommended!
What brand is your jacket !? Love it
I am amazed that you are the first "mainstream" photography person to actually review this camera. This Black Magic camera may be a bit of a "joke" as far as build quality and design is concerned but in terms of being wholly aimed around the function and output, exactly what you want a video camera for, it is spot on plus the price is ridiculously low for "real cinema" type footage. Their software is pretty good too !
it looks like babby's first camera
With menus designed by the AMD Crimson graphics driver folks
I loved my old BMPCC, cant wait to try this one.
If only somebody can make a Camera that could record longer than 30 minutes.
Apparently it's not far off now, well..The World Trade Organisation are in talks due to pressure from USA ( EU's tariff 5.4% duty On video cameras ) have a read on it.
Check out the Panasonic GH series. They've been making mirrorless cameras with no record time limits for years. The GH5 and GH5s are probably the two most popular models right now. :D
Finally,..been waitin for Kai to review this.
Nice bro 😉👍
I know the video is about the camera but love the bomber jacket, man
Cine camera , not a photo camera use for cine ....thanks take my money and give me one
Right! I wish people would understand their phot camera is not a cine camera
@@ChrisParayno Some give the best of both worlds. Personally I wouldn't touch this thing.
I don't even need this but now I want one. I've actually been eyeing it for awhile just for the price alone. Damn steal, especially as it comes with Resolve.
What?! using a camera with a m/43 lens mount? Are you insane?! Tony Northrup says m/43 is DEAD!!!
/sarcasm
the sarcasm is strong with this one.
Yea, and an added bonus is that there is so much noise in your video, you don't even have to record audio.
Just received the camera, but i can tell you one thing: if you don't have the money, it will be a while before you can begin taking videos. It requires numerous additional batteries; lens_gimbol and brakets: a very large SSD rapid hard drive all will cost you(second hand items are a must): Once assembled, however, there is so much to appreciate about this unit. The interface is very user-friendly, but excellent tutorials are required to set up the unite. It is my first camera, and I am learning daily
I think.the pocket is for pocket friendly not pocketable
Please do more challenge videos for photographers with not high end gear. Those are some of the most inspiring videos seeing great photographers put together great work with entry level gear.
Might be a good camera but the design is horrific. If they replaced the shell with a beat up brick it would look better.
Function over form, as any tool should be.
Stop thinking like a woman :)
I think it looks pretty bad ass. But does it even matter how it looks, if it looks great.
I think you should go get yourself a Leica camera, those are made for people like you.
@WCUK Radio Well that would be the Ursa Mini Pro then, costing like 4 times as much.
It's cute you mention a few times that it's purely a video camera as if you never held/used a dedicated video cam. You're funny!
I have to say when it comes to video cameras in terms of ergonomics I miss the Betacams... Perfectly heavy and yet perfectly balanced doing some walking shots... No problem but with these toys... I mean good image but I really hate clunky shoulder rigs etc. Beta was on your shoulder or on sticks without having to reconfigure stuff...
When I hear sony I hear jello effects and 8 bit video :D
that jacket dope asf .. i see you trynna step up the swag
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Edit : actually 3 :(
Daam i have been waiting for this review from quite some time, thanks u kai, love u ♡
Fuji XT-3 is another option at only $100 more. Larger sensor so better shadow noise, better AF and more pocketable.
photojournalistsf XT3 is best of both worlds. Shooting RAW is cool because of the flexibility, but having 10bit 4:2:2 in the XT3 is good enough for online content, I’m think of picking up an XT3 to replace my a7rii and a7sii, unless I wait for the a7siii with 10bit and better color science but highly doubt it
But doesn't shoot 12bit cinie dng or 16bit BMraw also doesn't have black magics colour science
X-T3 is definitely the best for fast fieldwork, but for the technically-conscious the Blackmagic has broadcast features not available to hybrids (except the GH-series to some extent). I certainly agree that Fuji is the way to go for both photographers and videographers who focus on nimble imaging and release rather than production-heavy modes of operation, though.
... it’s not the sensor size that determines the quality of the shadow/noise. It’s the pixels.
@@The_Guth Be warned! XT3 is 10 bit 4:2:0, not 4:2:2! It's only outputs to HDMI the better chroma/color data. But still, both are amazing tools! I'll go with the pocket 4k.
Awesome video as always, now I kinda want one..
Totally
It's terrible for vlogging. Any camera without great auto focus, image stabilization, and a fully articulating screen is terrible for vlogging
Vlogging and Cinema r different kind of things lol
1. Vlogging can be cinematic too, and it can have cinematic b roll shots
2. Even people making cinematic film would benefit from a fully articulating screen
3. The guy over the black magic cinema camera said that it would be rhe perfect camera for vlogging. He was wrong
Darth Nihilus you can say that all you want but one of the people over it specifically said it was the perfect vlogging camera so your point is mute. All of the people you see reviewing this camera are people who do vlogs
@@jeffmurnahan The individual making the claim that it's the perfect vlogging camera is just wrong, regardless of his position at BM. Companies will make claims about their products that aren't entirely accurate to increase market appeal, but an informed consumer shouldn't put any stock in those claims. It is strictly a cinema camera. For some non-vlogger reviews and real world examples of it in use as it was intended (with a fair amount of humor added) check out ruclips.net/user/darkfablemedia
eire138 I put more weight into the claims of what people over this camera say more than what random youtube commenter says about what the camera is suppose to be. At the price range a large chunk of its users will be vloggers, people over it said it was the perfect vlogging camera. Besides that, it doesn't matter, cinema cameras should have image stabilization, great autofocus and a flip out screen to see what you're filming at high and low angles
KAI got a set of pipes. VO on that large-diaphragm mic sounds great!!
go to 0:04 and pause.
✊🏼💦
🤣😂🤣
You’re like a cross between James May and Maurice moss from the IT crowd , great video SUBBED
I don't get the design hate. Sure, plasticky is meh, but this is the most beautiful looking camera in years. So simplistic, so clean! Like old Braun products. Anyone with me? :p
Yes. Its nice. But:
It should have has a VIDEO or CINE form factor. Like the BM micro cinema.
A lot like the ZCAM E2. The box, and maybe a screen. But NOT THIS DSLR form factor which sucks. And the design id s little too futuristic
It may seem plasticky but it's really a carbon fiber/polycarbonate composite which is why it's so light. After putting a cage on mine it feels like it's at a good weight now.
Nope
No
Carbon fibre chassis ;) I like its 80s aesthetic
Carbon fibre just like those plastic Formula1 cars.
Had mine for a while. Favourite camera to date. Once it gets BRAW it will be my perfect camera.
Added a few bits and pieces but nothing compared to the first version, which was also an awesome camera. Like everyone else has said, plus $300 of resolve for free.
No it is not. If it used the same material as used in Formula 1 cars it would cost 5 figures. That stuff is expesive.
At the end of 2018 it just feel like micro 4/3 is on its last legs. Not sure I would want to buy into a system where the end of new lenses is in the forseeable future.
4/3 cameras will be the first to get better features even in the future, due to less overheating issues. You don't need to buy into their lenses, you can get a speed booster which will give you a S35 equivalent. Then you also can enjoy the upside of using smaller 4/3 lenses with more reach should you want a smaller set up.
TV shows like The Walking Dead are shot on 16mm which is even smaller than Micro 4/3 which just goes to show sensor size isn't everything.
bollocks
M43 mounts has more lens options than probably any other mount. There are things called adapters and speedboosters. You can get aps-c, super 35, and even full frame like footage with speedboosters. I would argue m43 mounts are here to stay.
@@bumkiss It's possible. I'll be interested to revisit this topic in three years
Someone's been watching too many camera vloggers this week.
Another great video Kai 👍😊😂
Always informative..... And funny as
It's called carbon fibre. It's stronger than steel per unit mass. That's what supercars and hypercars are made of these days.
nope.
Bro it is plastic! That thing which you said is true about last designs of BMD cameras
It's actually carbon reinforced polymer plastic, which is completely different to normal carbon fiber. It's a bit better than normal plastic, but doesn't come close to the strength of carbon fiber.
@@RedHatMedia nor the feeling.
@@RedHatMedia When something is said to be made of "carbon fibre" it simply means carbon reinforced polymer as the carbon fibre itself is in form of a woven material which can't be used on it's own but in combination with plastic to form a composite material. So, my initial assertion still stands. Carbon reinforced polymer is what someone people call "carbon fibre" because it has carbon fibres in it. So this camera and Lamborghini aventador are made of the same material. No one is inferior to the other just that the shell of the BMPCC 4k would contain fewer layers of the carbon fibre material for a thinner mold.
Not gonna lie I've wanted one of these for a long too - primary since you can edit the footage so well
Suuure buy one if you want to be a ''film maker''
forget about it if you want to be a ''social media influencer'' ie youtuber
Mmmm why? Not all RUclipsrs are vbloggers
NewEsc Because it's a camera that gives you the opportunity to take control of it and make most out of it which can only be done in filmmaking where you can be in a position to take charge. When you are youtubing if that's even a word you can't be..you need too much auto auto auto..I guess.
How does this compare to the Sony a 6400 for 4K video? I really like the wide-angle lens that the Sony comes with
It's much better than the a6400... But it depends on what you plan to use it for.
#Pleaseanswerthis
Does the BMPCC4k got overheat as said online?
I haven't had any overheating issues at all.
I worked on a pilot a couple weeks ago as the B cam op, using this camera (A cam was an ursa mini 4.6k) We had some 8+ minute long takes with no overheating issues.
i have heard that the camera body gets a little bit hot, but the internal hardware keeps freshhhh
@@migu1el Yes it can get hot at the vents but nothing more than that.
it is very hot at the bottom of the body and also the mount. it wont work in summer for long.
Kai, absolutely love your reviews.
1300 dollars? fo starters? Im just looking fo ra cheap canon rebel t3i lmao
But is the t6i a "cine" video camera
I spend $1K on my first “real” camera which was in fact a rebel t3i.
So if had to be 19 again, and have $1300 for this, I fracking would.
Get a Canon EOS m, the first one. Get magic lantern for it and buy an EF to m adapter.
Learn on that. The camera can be had for 150 dollars now.
@@agus.lorenzo Not if you use it for stills as well. The t3i kicks this thing as a hybrid, and the t3i is a crappy hybrid compared to modern cameras.
@@pahwraith speed booster? no good. think about the 1.9 times crop factor
*you always deserve a million subs*
weres alamby? she was funny
She got married or something
She is currently based in Melbourne and is active on instagram. She has her own youtube channel but only posts stuff extremely rarely. instagram.com/alambyl/
Alamby, Kai, and Lok all have their own channels now
@@julianwarren8059 alamby hasnt uploaded in like a year
Did you just call me a slot slut? I'm deeply honored. I also saw the camera for the first time in one of your vids. You make a case. In an imperfect world here is another imperfect camera, but at least it's a cheaper imperfect camera. Yes changing from stills to video with my A7rii makes me forget where I am and what I'm doing. Bad Bad Sony. TYG my daily driver is m9 which feels the same way about video as the brown magic does about stills. I have also been learning video in the last year, it's been fun to watch all the usual suspects get up to video speed at the same time. Even Huff can do it now :)
This is probably the ugliest camera I've ever seen
I think it looks pretty cool.
7:22 "The Canon EOS R crop crop crop crop" Perfect. That needs to be its name!
x-t3 is better
ThePorscheGTO much
@@notyetperfect6769 indoobidadubly
not for video
ConCoClem auto focus is shit on black magic, but the video quality is actually more detailed on XT3, only thing the magic has over is a slightly higher dynamic range...
@@notyetperfect6769 and 12 bit raw, in camera luts, xlr connection, dual iso, clapperboard metadata, larger screen, false color... No one is better, they are just different.
This guys is so talented