Hey dudes, I need to say this up front. I love my Blackmagic design pocket 4k. Yes its a quirky camera, but the images that a pocket 4k can produce are amazing. So much has changed since its release, the biggest being the introduction of BRAW. Blackmagic design RAW is one of the best, most widely adopted RAW formats on the market today. There is so much to like about this camera. Let me know what you like or dislike about the pocket 4k. Super interested to hear all of your thoughts....
@@carmit.shaham Do you mean buying the pocket 4k as a kit that comes with a lens? Normally new they are not sold with lenses. If buying used, I would bargaining to get a lens with it yes. Otherwise buying blackmagic design pocket cameras is pretty cheap for what you get. I would recommend a lens with stabilisation of you are not intending on using a tripod. However a great go to fast wide lens for the pocket 4k is the sigma 18-35mm. Its affordable and very sharp. It is not stabilised though. If you tell me more about what you are trying to achieve I can offer better advice.
You dont get a lens with the pocket 4k from Blackmagic Design. So yes you will need to get one - the sigma 18-35 is an affordable, very sharp and clean lens that pairs well with the system
@@cinechimp what lens are featured in the video towards the end? Where to find them? Just looking for a basic setup to shoot cinematic quality indies 😇
As a proud owner of this camera, I would not recommend you to follow the advice of most RUclipsrs and go all out on rigging your camera. Just use it for what it is, learn, have fun, and only expand your gear when it makes sense! I say this from experience as my rig got so out of control, that it stopped me from taking my camera with me. Remember creativity comes from necessity and constraint.
Definitely this is a great tip @dietcoke9536 its sort of like content creation and streaming PC setups only expand ones equipment that you will actually need or use if not you have essentially wasted equipment.
I bought the neewer battery grip and it works really fine especially with a Sd card this combo really strip the camera down if u just want to do casual shooting.
Very well-put (especially the bit at the end!). I really dig Blackmagic's ethos as a company more than anyone else's, too. The way that Grant Petty (the CEO) does the announcements and demos himself and understands every aspect of the tech, parts, supply chain, colorist needs, codec decompression/workflow is so, so different to most companies, and I really appreciate their frankness in what works great and what corners have to be cut to achieve that price. Hell, I called support because I couldn't get my Røde Wireless Go 2 to get me anything above -30dB no mater what, and the customer service rep told me that the Pocket models just have really weak preamps (he shoots on a Pocket 6K himself), that it's one of the cheaper parts in the camera, and that the lack of signal boost is inherent in the camera hardware and isn't my fault. Aspects like the above are _so refreshing_ when compared with the ultra-glossy, shareholder-approved, "we've never done anything wrong in our lives" attitudes that pervades the product/tech industry.
Another upside to this great camera, I live in BM’s hometown of Melbourne. I fried the motherboard of the camera (long story but my fault) I took it to their repair shop at 11 am and before the end of that day, it was ready to pick up. An expensive lesson but I can't fault how quick they repaired it.
The b-roll stop motion type segments are GREAT! So creative. Came here just to learn some about this camera and was totally impressed with overall video production quality. Well done!
Just bought my BMPCC 4K used for 850€ with Davinci Resolve after saving money for what felt like years.. So stoked to get it next week!! Upgrading from a G85 should be a HUGE step up! Grant Petty, you are our saviour!! PS: Yes, the used market prices SHOCKED me. But you are right, prices reflect just how high it is still valued! PPS: If you want to buy a BMPCC used in Germany, be aware that scammers are flooding Ebay and other online markets with fake listings; At least half of all listings i encountered were fake. Be aware! Scammers know too how high demand still is for BMPCC 4k!
Thanks for informing the community about the scammers out there. The internet, right. Great for somethings and a playground for others. Stoked you were able to find a good deal on a pocket 4k used. Amazing!
A lot of criticism of the Black Magic Pocket’s ‘’lack of features’’ or ‘’design gaps’’ comes from people who want to use this camera in scenarios that fall outside the focused intention of the camera’s design. It’s a cinema camera: It’s meant to excel in the clearly defined context of making films, with some level of planning and control, as you capture your shots. >> No IBIS? It’s a cinema camera: You’re expected to put it on a gimbal. No flip screen? Because it’s not a run-and-gun Vlog camera; You’re supposed to be the cinematographer BEHIND the camera, filming your pre-planned actors/ or spontaneous documentary subjects. Plastic build that doesn’t seem very rugged? Cause it’s not supposed to be your rough and tumble adventure goPro, where the camera is an after-thought, that you might drop on a rock while you’re focused on extreme mountain biking. It’s a cinema camera, where the user is expected to be primarily focused on operating the camera, while other people and things provide the action/activity that’s being filmed.
I’ve watched a lot of reviews on RUclips for this camera and MFT lenses recently and this one easily had the most fun visuals. I hope you keep going nuts with them, it’s a real point of difference.
I ordered at launch, and it's still my A cam. The value of Blackmagic's free firmware updates can't be overstated. The best part of this camera is it initially provides a low barrier of entry to shooting professional images and it can continue to grow with you by making incremental rig upgrades over time. I have a few recommendations to add to your great list. The cine-lock version of the Metabones speedbooster designed specifically for this camera is expensive, but will more than double the quality and functionality of this camera. A Portkeys monitor can wirelessly control the camera, which is invaluable if using a shoulder rig. I use and recommend four lenses. First, the Sigma 18-35 1.8. The other three are Canon FD lenses converted to EF by Simmod. The 55mm 1.2, 70-210mm F/4 and 24mm 2.8. Lastly, a wireless follow focus system. Happy shooting!
All still true. I've been shooting on one of these for over three years and still love it. I am looking for another camera to add to it, but not replace it as the image it produces is still stellar and and will continue to be so for a long time yet.
I was recently looking for a new camera for personal projects and had my eye on the BMPCC6K Pro. I was surprised that the cam hadn't dropped in price during the several years since its launch. Even used models didn't have as big a discount as I expected. I realized that, like the 4K, this really spoke to the kind of value Blackmagic cameras offer. I went back and forth between the BMPCC6K Pro and the Sony FX3. Ultimatly, the 6kPro one out because of the internal ND filters, RAW+ProRes Recording, and the lovely color science. Having owned it now for a little while, I can see why the value hasn't changed in the last few years. There really is no one else offering so many features at so small a price.
Oh totally agree mate. But with the Alexas now floating around for 4k, im starting to think maybe I should sell my pocket and bbuy an Arri again. Oh the world we live in today
Pocket 4 K rules! I shoot daily on my Sony FX 6, 3 & 30 but I will honestly say the image from the BMPCc 4k is absolutely gorgeous. I’m hoping to get one just for personal projects. cheers
Your stop motion looks super nice. Bravo! One camera that can produce exceptional images and can be used in conjuction with bmpcc4k and not brake the bank (I bought mine for 299$) is canon 6D with magic lantern and sd hack. 1080p14bit raw footage from it , is very easy to match with BM.
The Pocket 4k is the pure image king in any budget up to $3400. I have 2 GH5S's and a GH5... all great cameras... Straight IQ the Pocket 4k. All around, weather, rugged build, ergo, power, low light, GH5S.
I dont think anyone is going to argue with you on this. Those GH5's are little nuggets of cameras. But, yes the pocket 4k all day long for image quality.
How is it in the cold? Looking for something to use while outside doing winter sports like xc skiing and fat biking. GoPro's are not lasting very long below freezing temps. And your video is next level as far as quality goes.
Hey there, with a small MFT lens it would be great for fat biking and skiing, but you would need to bag the camera as it is not weather sealed. As far as video quality goes, the pocket 4k smokes a GoPro, but you're not going to get steady shot in camera which is really what you want for action. If you use a manual focus lens, run the screen brightness on a low setting, the battery will get you about 55 minutes. As the Pocket uses Canon batteries, they are pretty good in the cold weather. However, to get more run time you can use a Sony NPF 960 with a small cheap adapter then you will get a around 3 hours. This does increase the size of the setup though and how that suits you shooting action sports is the real question. Im interested to know which way you go....?
I agree. 100% Best low budget entry level cinema camera of all time. You can ez 10x your investment with in a year with the pocket4k & 2 lenses. A wide & standard 25mm lense. Master this camera, & by the time your ready to buy a Red or high level cinéma camera, you'll be a filmmaker.
Proud owner of BMD Camera here! So happy with my purchase from Nuzira who offered me some discounts and their customer service is excellent! Highly recommended!
@@cinechimp yes it is! Not sponsored but really loved their customer service. Anyways, liked your video a lot! Very comprehensive and worth the time! Looking forwards to more camera recommendations!
Yes and No. I think it's times to an update version of the Bmpcc4k: ( bmpcc 4.6k G2) With: - Tilt Screem - Sony Baterry (As the Pocket 6k G2) - 2 mini XLR - New Sensor 1.8x M43 & New Science Color Generation. - 14+ Stop Dynamic Range. - Dual Native ISO 640 & 6400 - Update Version of Gyro Stabilization, and Better in Camera control. - Fuji XF Mount Optional, or E-Mount, as well M43 Mount.
I totally agree with you Robert. These would all make great additions to the pocket lineup. I actually posted a video about this a year almost to the day. So we think alike brother!
Yes. It's still relevant. Great results. I have three, imagine how much that would cost with any other camera. M4/3 lenses are fine, they are small and light weight. I like to use adapted old glass from the 1970s and 1980s, really good value for money.
@@tmmnago2722 The three lenses that see the most use are: Panasonic H-HSA12035E Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm/F2.8 II; Panasonic H-FS014042 Lumix G Vario 1:3.5-5.6/14-42 Asph. Mega O.I.S.; Tamron 80-200mm 1:2.8 LD 30A. Then less often a Kiron 28mm f/2 MC Kino Precision; Tamron SP 1:2.5 90mm Tele Macro.
very well explanation! i have GH5 and want upgrade to pocket 4k. do you think the IQ is worth the upgrade? or save money for pocket 6k? i love the color coming out of pocket4k. Reply
Depends where you are at with your career and current lens situation. I love the 4k, as like the GH5 you adapt all your lenses. If you go to a 6k, you may as well save up for the PRO version. Its worth the extra coin IMO. The down side is that you may have to change your lens lineup.
Hello, thank you so much for your reviews! Do you have any suggestion for budget lens to shoot interviews indoor? Can you please suggest the most budget gear to go with Blackmagic 4k? I will film a documentary about immigrants and refugees. I'm a student, my budget is tight. Thank you very much in advance!
Hi there, I would start with the used market in your local area and look for a Sigma’s 18 to 35 F1.8 in EF mount. And if you can afford one, a speedbooster of some kind. Then this lens can be kept if you ever move on from the MFT mount. Plus for doco work the speedbooster will come in handy for those lower light situations. Cheaper than this would be a couple of Loawa primes or zooms. Hope this helps you out.
They are both great cameras. Vastly different price points - P4K super easy to use, FX30, super easy to get a result but more complicated to use. You cant go wrong either way.
If your using a speed booster, Canon 24-105 L kit lens. Buy it used, they are super affordable. And they have IS. The F4 will be come a F2.8, which is good for most stuff. If you are not using a speed booster, Loawa has amazing affordable lenses that are optically very good. These lenses have good resale value, so if you do decide to move up to FF lenses, you should get most of your money back.
I think it's funny when ppl call bmpcc's cheap. Sure for cinema cameras and pros definitely but for ams like me who saved up and splurged on one, it's like the maybach of cameras for me and my friends
Hey Ben, I think it's awesome that you saved up and bought a BMD pocket cinema camera 4k. Looking back on when I started, it was all film. Man I would have given a kidney for a camera that has this cameras functionality.
@@cinechimp *ahem* it’s actually 6k pro 😮💨I’m in love with the camera, actually prefer the image to the red. But that’s my unpopular opinion. Hey! If you could do a lighting video for specifically bmpcc’s optimized for its colour space that would be amazing, hard to find that. Anyway great content man just subbed
what lens are you using for your camera? I have one 24-105 mm canon, 25m Panasonic lumix g, canon 50mm 1.8, lumix 12-35mm. One metabones .64x, I want to shoot interviews, people, and places. I find the use of the camera very poor outside. I can't even see the screen when it is bright. I am waiting for the monitor ordered and hope that it will solve the issue of brightness.
Great question Tim. Im using all EF glass with the Viltrox focal reducer. My lenses are a full range of Canon CNE primes, Canon EF primes and zooms. But I wouldnt use more than 3 lens for most productions. Travel lite work fast. Sounds like you have a great setup. If you are disappointed in your monitor, send it back and get an EVF, they are much better for focus and outdoors use.
Great video as always! Q: I'm planning to build an ATEM based Stream/Work Studio. Never planning to shot outside. Would be better to buy a few of the PCC4K vs few of the Studio 4K Pro? Have a great day!
For a mirrorless or DSLR handgrip I would totally agree with you, but for a cinema camera the ergonomics are not good. The price and image quality are the main reasons users forgive the poor ergonomics. A cameras with good ergonomics is the Arri Amira that out of the box requires no gak has a good weight to it and is balanced by design. The only difference is the price, image and build quality.
Hi there, I am not a gimbal user, but I would say this, if I was to use a gimbal with the Blackmagic pocket 4k / 6k /6k Pro cinema camera - I would use the DJI RS 3 Pro with lidar and manual lenses. Its pretty rock solid. Or the same setup with a focus puller.
I only recommend what I use myself. So Angelbird SD 128GB AV PROs. They work the best and come with free data recovery. But mainly Im using Angelbird CFast or their PKT SSD 2 go for longer recording times.
I'm looking for GOOD 4K images for slomo documentary-like animal / birds videos ... is this what i need ? And also ... what telefoto / zomm lens would be the equivalent of my Nikon 200-500mm that would be perfect for this body ?? Thanks !
This camera would be great for what it sounds like you are doing, but it may pay for you to get the 6k instead as the resolution + the crop factor would be far more advantageous than just the MFT sensor….food for thought
M1 first year first gen, I had the issue, and I remember BMD maybe 1 year after that made resolve native M1 OS compliant. So no more rosetta, so if your mac is still having this issue, its NOT the 3rd party software as Apple will try and tell you. Let me know how you go.
@@cinechimp I'm using a Nikon D5300 right now and want to upgrade to something with better quality. I plan on doing interviews, adds for local business and documentaries with the new camera.
@@BerserkFlow Ok then the main question I would ask is do you need AF? If you need AF for video, neither the GH5 or pocket 4k are the right camera for you. You’d be better off with a Canon, Sony and even some of Nikon Z line of cameras. But these options all vary drastically in price point. So budget is a real concern. If you are using Nikon’s you probably have Nikon glass, so looking a Z-line mirrorless for you could be a good way to save some money and have more lens options. Or you could look into adapting your lenses to the MTF mount.
@@cinechimp autofocus would be really nice, as it's very important when recording people in movement. I'm just now entering into this world of audiovisual, just finished my college and I'm looking for something that is good enough to be used for years to come.
@@BerserkFlow In thats case whats your budget? If you already have a dedicated stills camera, the Nikon, you should go for a dedicated video camera. The AF hierarchy for dedicated video cameras, not hybrids = 1) Sony/Canon, 2) DJI 3) Red 4)Panasonic/Arri/BMD/Zcam/Kinefinity and for Hybrids = 1) Sony/Canon 2)Panasonic/Nikon 3)Fujifilm 4)Olympus etc The best video cameras around 5k USD are Canon c70, Sony FX6 and both will work great straight out of the box. You also have the Red Komodo or a used Arri Alexa. But both require money spent on accessories to start shooting. But also dont be afraid to look into the Canon XF range of handy cams. These are excellent cameras, that dont generate a lot of data, have solid AF and work out of the box. They have attached zoom lenses and are pretty good in low light, plus they are SUB 5K new with good audio.
nice - what other more expensive cinema cameras are giving you sort lifespan for so little upfront money with the type of ROI you get from these pocket cinema cameras?
@@cinechimp That is a good question. NONE, really. I don't do "Run and Gun", or "shoot and scoot". When I do ENG stories, complete with interviews and B-Roll, I need nothing more than HD footage, or even just stills and narration. I can use my venerable HXR-NX300 for THAT, plus my iPhone 12 Pro Max with the Blackmagic spp for B-Roll. I need no expensive cameras for that. I used an old Cinealta F3 when helping someone with a shoot, and the only advantage was the Super 35 sensor. Otherwise, Sony, at the time, seemed to be like Arri - concentrating on color science rather than resolution. NOPE! The PCC 4K is probably the best one for its price range.
@@SLACKPLAN9 Oh that brings back memories from when I used to shoot ENG reportage but with SONY 900 series, zooms CCD sensors - in a way I do miss those days, those older videos cameras where great on the shoulder, like the old Aatons and SRs. But I never bought one as a full-time working cameraman, I left that to the stations and rental houses. A lot of people today just don't get how lucky they are to be able to OWN the cameras they use. 2010 F3 announced in the 18-23K USD and was advertised as a low cost option. 2 years later BMD 2,.5k cinema camera sub 3k, then pocket 4k in 2018 at 1300 bucks. Crazy!
You batteries must be old or non genuine. Try using the newer Canon LPE6N batteries internally, you should get over an hour per battery. Even our old genuine batteries still get 50mins record time. If you are actually on a production and not running around with the camera in your hand, use V-lock or mini Vlock battery with your pocket 4k. Then run times for the camera will be several days at a time. For really demanding shoots we us a 230Wh batteries with both our 6k Pro ad 4k, which is no different from any other production camera on the market. In fact this camera with the same Vlock as an Alexa requires only 20% of the batteries for the same shoot day. But if you are just using the camera to document your life, cars, horse riding and home videos - you would probably be better off with a Canon or a Sony.
@@cinechimp I contacted them .. they said we don't have a clear answer to you.. they said you can always try to shoot in other frame rates .. and you still have the 60fps .. so I insisted to get an answer they said its an unfortunate but we can't give you an answer !!
I only have limited experience with Nikon camreas, but I would say if you want a dedicated budget friendly cinema camera, the pocket ccamera is far better than the z50. But you will need to kit it out, you cant grab it and go like the z50.
See for me it’s tough coz my iPhone 14promax looks very similar to cameras like this… I feel like if you have iphone14pm just save for a $5000 camera if you want noticeably different better quality and dof cinematic cameras
Hmmm there are so many differences, the iphone doesnt come close is so many areas. But if you are only publishing online, maybe I could see where you are coming from.
pocket 4k is the cheapest in terms of media and quality camera on the market and also the most smooth in terms editing. buying thisused for 700 USD plus speedboster. this is the most valuable setup you can imagine... but its not vloging camera... !!! so for every day use you should think about second camera! with AF like canon or fuji
BMPCC4K as a cinema camera is better than Sony FX30, all Lumix cameras (GH6 S5IIX etc). And generally better than BMPCC4K in the budget segment is only BMPCC6K (Pro or new FF) or Sony FX3 + Atomos Ninja V (FX3 itself is not better) or Canon c70 or Red Comodo... but these are much more expensive solutions.
Black Magic knew what they were doing: give people the ability to capture cinema level images with minimal hardware at a minimal price point. Nice achievement 🪄✨
Its a great camera, the plastic build quality for a “cinema camera” isn't great, but at the price point would be drastically different if it was metal, like the new Pyxis, which better meets, the definition of a cinema camera.
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Hey dudes, I need to say this up front. I love my Blackmagic design pocket 4k. Yes its a quirky camera, but the images that a pocket 4k can produce are amazing. So much has changed since its release, the biggest being the introduction of BRAW. Blackmagic design RAW is one of the best, most widely adopted RAW formats on the market today. There is so much to like about this camera. Let me know what you like or dislike about the pocket 4k. Super interested to hear all of your thoughts....
hi ! , can you pls tell me if you got a lens? or i should but it separately?
@@carmit.shaham Do you mean buying the pocket 4k as a kit that comes with a lens? Normally new they are not sold with lenses. If buying used, I would bargaining to get a lens with it yes. Otherwise buying blackmagic design pocket cameras is pretty cheap for what you get. I would recommend a lens with stabilisation of you are not intending on using a tripod.
However a great go to fast wide lens for the pocket 4k is the sigma 18-35mm. Its affordable and very sharp. It is not stabilised though. If you tell me more about what you are trying to achieve I can offer better advice.
You dont get a lens with the pocket 4k from Blackmagic Design. So yes you will need to get one - the sigma 18-35 is an affordable, very sharp and clean lens that pairs well with the system
@@cinechimp what lens are featured in the video towards the end? Where to find them? Just looking for a basic setup to shoot cinematic quality indies 😇
As a proud owner of this camera, I would not recommend you to follow the advice of most RUclipsrs and go all out on rigging your camera. Just use it for what it is, learn, have fun, and only expand your gear when it makes sense! I say this from experience as my rig got so out of control, that it stopped me from taking my camera with me. Remember creativity comes from necessity and constraint.
Thanks for sharing
Definitely this is a great tip @dietcoke9536 its sort of like content creation and streaming PC setups only expand ones equipment that you will actually need or use if not you have essentially wasted equipment.
That’s real
I bought the neewer battery grip and it works really fine especially with a Sd card this combo really strip the camera down if u just want to do casual shooting.
Thanks for sharing. Can I trust the AF sistem for live streaming? or for sitting person interviews? Thanks
Very well-put (especially the bit at the end!).
I really dig Blackmagic's ethos as a company more than anyone else's, too. The way that Grant Petty (the CEO) does the announcements and demos himself and understands every aspect of the tech, parts, supply chain, colorist needs, codec decompression/workflow is so, so different to most companies, and I really appreciate their frankness in what works great and what corners have to be cut to achieve that price. Hell, I called support because I couldn't get my Røde Wireless Go 2 to get me anything above -30dB no mater what, and the customer service rep told me that the Pocket models just have really weak preamps (he shoots on a Pocket 6K himself), that it's one of the cheaper parts in the camera, and that the lack of signal boost is inherent in the camera hardware and isn't my fault.
Aspects like the above are _so refreshing_ when compared with the ultra-glossy, shareholder-approved, "we've never done anything wrong in our lives" attitudes that pervades the product/tech industry.
You said it. Grant Petty, Founder, Co-owner and the CEO of BMD is the man.
Another upside to this great camera, I live in BM’s hometown of Melbourne. I fried the motherboard of the camera (long story but my fault) I took it to their repair shop at 11 am and before the end of that day, it was ready to pick up. An expensive lesson but I can't fault how quick they repaired it.
They are great. Crazy. Here my camera has to be sent to the uk, if something like that was to happen.
The b-roll stop motion type segments are GREAT! So creative. Came here just to learn some about this camera and was totally impressed with overall video production quality. Well done!
Its always nice to receive positive feedback. Thanks brother
I second that!
@@MichaelWashingtonAE hanks brother, you guys are too kind
Personally the black magic 4k is my favorite camera! I would always choose this over the Arri Alexa or any other industry standard!
Nice one!
Just bought my BMPCC 4K used for 850€ with Davinci Resolve after saving money for what felt like years.. So stoked to get it next week!! Upgrading from a G85 should be a HUGE step up! Grant Petty, you are our saviour!!
PS: Yes, the used market prices SHOCKED me. But you are right, prices reflect just how high it is still valued!
PPS: If you want to buy a BMPCC used in Germany, be aware that scammers are flooding Ebay and other online markets with fake listings; At least half of all listings i encountered were fake. Be aware! Scammers know too how high demand still is for BMPCC 4k!
Thanks for informing the community about the scammers out there.
The internet, right. Great for somethings and a playground for others.
Stoked you were able to find a good deal on a pocket 4k used. Amazing!
@@cinechimp No problem, and thanks! :)
@@TDCIYB77 always welcome brother
How are you liking it so far? I also currently own a g85 and only really interested in upgrading to the blackmagic 4k in the future.
A lot of criticism of the Black Magic Pocket’s ‘’lack of features’’ or ‘’design gaps’’ comes from people who want to use this camera in scenarios that fall outside the focused intention of the camera’s design. It’s a cinema camera: It’s meant to excel in the clearly defined context of making films, with some level of planning and control, as you capture your shots. >> No IBIS? It’s a cinema camera: You’re expected to put it on a gimbal. No flip screen? Because it’s not a run-and-gun Vlog camera; You’re supposed to be the cinematographer BEHIND the camera, filming your pre-planned actors/ or spontaneous documentary subjects. Plastic build that doesn’t seem very rugged? Cause it’s not supposed to be your rough and tumble adventure goPro, where the camera is an after-thought, that you might drop on a rock while you’re focused on extreme mountain biking. It’s a cinema camera, where the user is expected to be primarily focused on operating the camera, while other people and things provide the action/activity that’s being filmed.
I dont believe this camera is “expected” to be put on a gimbal, they do work ok but the Pyxis form factor will work better.
Just cut a film I shot on my Gh5 and a friends BMP4K. The BM shots were gorgeous.
Super powerful cinema cameras - best bang per buck
I had both cameras. But I had to sell my gh5. The bmpcc4k has a superior image quality that's why I kept it.
Great video. The BM cams are absolutely the best bang for buck cameras out. The Pocket cams changed the game.
Straight up words of truth.
I’ve watched a lot of reviews on RUclips for this camera and MFT lenses recently and this one easily had the most fun visuals. I hope you keep going nuts with them, it’s a real point of difference.
Oh thanks Paige. It super nice to get positive feedback. Lets just say I have a strong filter setting on this platform...
I ordered at launch, and it's still my A cam. The value of Blackmagic's free firmware updates can't be overstated. The best part of this camera is it initially provides a low barrier of entry to shooting professional images and it can continue to grow with you by making incremental rig upgrades over time. I have a few recommendations to add to your great list. The cine-lock version of the Metabones speedbooster designed specifically for this camera is expensive, but will more than double the quality and functionality of this camera. A Portkeys monitor can wirelessly control the camera, which is invaluable if using a shoulder rig. I use and recommend four lenses. First, the Sigma 18-35 1.8. The other three are Canon FD lenses converted to EF by Simmod. The 55mm 1.2, 70-210mm F/4 and 24mm 2.8. Lastly, a wireless follow focus system. Happy shooting!
Hey there, all great additions to recommend to people looking too upgrade their current setup without replacing the pocket cinema 4k body.
Even in 10 years this camera will be good enough for making great movies.
You said it, I believe it. The pocket 4k has true staying power.
All still true. I've been shooting on one of these for over three years and still love it. I am looking for another camera to add to it, but not replace it as the image it produces is still stellar and and will continue to be so for a long time yet.
Totally agree with you, and I think this camera is good for another decade.
I was recently looking for a new camera for personal projects and had my eye on the BMPCC6K Pro. I was surprised that the cam hadn't dropped in price during the several years since its launch. Even used models didn't have as big a discount as I expected. I realized that, like the 4K, this really spoke to the kind of value Blackmagic cameras offer. I went back and forth between the BMPCC6K Pro and the Sony FX3. Ultimatly, the 6kPro one out because of the internal ND filters, RAW+ProRes Recording, and the lovely color science. Having owned it now for a little while, I can see why the value hasn't changed in the last few years. There really is no one else offering so many features at so small a price.
You made a great choice...
Dude. The edit is 🔥.
thanks brother, I appreciate the kind words
I use the pocket 4K to build my reel. It’s a great supplemental camera in between Alexa and Venice shoots. Great for fashion films.
Oh totally agree mate. But with the Alexas now floating around for 4k, im starting to think maybe I should sell my pocket and bbuy an Arri again. Oh the world we live in today
Any camera is still good no matter how old. It is the person with a materialistic view that is the issue.
very very good point
Pocket 4 K rules! I shoot daily on my Sony FX 6, 3 & 30 but I will honestly say the image from the BMPCc 4k is absolutely gorgeous. I’m hoping to get one just for personal projects. cheers
You make some great points.
Out of interest mow much lighter is the pocket 4k with a lens and battery than the FX6?
What a top tier video! Thank you!
Thanks for stopping by Kathleen. And thanks for the positive vibes
Such an enjoyablr video with allot of effort on b rolls. T
hank you for that!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Your stop motion looks super nice. Bravo! One camera that can produce exceptional images and can be used in conjuction with bmpcc4k and not brake the bank (I bought mine for 299$) is canon 6D with magic lantern and sd hack. 1080p14bit raw footage from it , is very easy to match with BM.
The 6D is a great camera. The animations in this video were shot with a 5dmkii. Love Canon and BMD.
The Pocket 4k is the pure image king in any budget up to $3400. I have 2 GH5S's and a GH5... all great cameras... Straight IQ the Pocket 4k. All around, weather, rugged build, ergo, power, low light, GH5S.
I dont think anyone is going to argue with you on this. Those GH5's are little nuggets of cameras. But, yes the pocket 4k all day long for image quality.
Whoa! The CineChimp delivers! Straight to the point, no nonsense review. Makes a lotta sense.
Sorry for the late reply, thanks brother!!!
Amazing Footage and Chops CineChimp! Very informative! This is so true! The BMPCC4K is an amazing and affordable tool for aspiring film-makers!
Couldn't agree more! And thanks for being positive.
How is it in the cold? Looking for something to use while outside doing winter sports like xc skiing and fat biking. GoPro's are not lasting very long below freezing temps.
And your video is next level as far as quality goes.
Hey there, with a small MFT lens it would be great for fat biking and skiing, but you would need to bag the camera as it is not weather sealed.
As far as video quality goes, the pocket 4k smokes a GoPro, but you're not going to get steady shot in camera which is really what you want for action.
If you use a manual focus lens, run the screen brightness on a low setting, the battery will get you about 55 minutes.
As the Pocket uses Canon batteries, they are pretty good in the cold weather. However, to get more run time you can use a Sony NPF 960 with a small cheap adapter then you will get a around 3 hours. This does increase the size of the setup though and how that suits you shooting action sports is the real question.
Im interested to know which way you go....?
I agree. 100% Best low budget entry level cinema camera of all time. You can ez 10x your investment with in a year with the pocket4k & 2 lenses. A wide & standard 25mm lense. Master this camera, & by the time your ready to buy a Red or high level cinéma camera, you'll be a filmmaker.
Now thats sound advice.
Yep. Just bought this camera. Absolutely love it.
like little nuggets of golds
@@cinechimp It really is.
Really happy owner as well since October 2018. I cannot go back to h264/h265 based cameras.
Oh I totally agree mate. Every time I step away from my pocket to a h265 camera .... you know the feeling!
Proud owner of BMD Camera here! So happy with my purchase from Nuzira who offered me some discounts and their customer service is excellent! Highly recommended!
Thanks for sharing! That company sounds awesome.
@@cinechimp yes it is! Not sponsored but really loved their customer service. Anyways, liked your video a lot! Very comprehensive and worth the time! Looking forwards to more camera recommendations!
@@roselilia4878 thanks Rose
you deserve more views , great video 👌
Thats very nice of you to say! Thank you.
I agree with every point you made. Great video mate.
What do they say: "great minds think alike"
Amazing video!! So engaging and well paced! Thank you for this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I still shot in mine. Now with the Sirui anamorphic lens combo, you are not missing anything from Sony or Canon cameras.
totally agree
you're the best mann. Thank You so much!
thanks for the positive vibes!!
The URSA 12k is S35 though not full frame. ARRI also just released a S35 camera.
Umm yes this is discussed in the video
how did you do this video, it looks amazing
Oh thank you. Thats very kind.
Yes and No.
I think it's times to an update version of the Bmpcc4k: ( bmpcc 4.6k G2)
With:
- Tilt Screem
- Sony Baterry (As the Pocket 6k G2)
- 2 mini XLR
- New Sensor 1.8x M43 & New Science Color Generation.
- 14+ Stop Dynamic Range.
- Dual Native ISO 640 & 6400
- Update Version of Gyro Stabilization, and Better in Camera control.
- Fuji XF Mount Optional, or E-Mount, as well M43 Mount.
I totally agree with you Robert. These would all make great additions to the pocket lineup. I actually posted a video about this a year almost to the day. So we think alike brother!
Excellent post and all facts sir
Anytime brother
Nice review watching from Kenya East Africa
Oh wow, hi and many thanks
Yes. It's still relevant. Great results. I have three, imagine how much that would cost with any other camera. M4/3 lenses are fine, they are small and light weight. I like to use adapted old glass from the 1970s and 1980s, really good value for money.
Exactly, that would be a massive expense.
name of your lenses?
@@tmmnago2722 The three lenses that see the most use are: Panasonic H-HSA12035E Lumix G X Vario 12-35mm/F2.8 II; Panasonic H-FS014042 Lumix G Vario 1:3.5-5.6/14-42 Asph. Mega O.I.S.; Tamron 80-200mm 1:2.8 LD 30A. Then less often a Kiron 28mm f/2 MC Kino Precision; Tamron SP 1:2.5 90mm Tele Macro.
hey do you think i could have one
:) lol foreal though
Superb review. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Very well said.
Hey there you! Thanks for that.
Blackmagic will be best forever
lets hope blackmagic design keep the awesome cinema cameras coming
awesome video
Thanks for the positivity Timo!
very well explanation! i have GH5 and want upgrade to pocket 4k. do you think the IQ is worth the upgrade? or save money for pocket 6k? i love the color coming out of pocket4k.
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Depends where you are at with your career and current lens situation. I love the 4k, as like the GH5 you adapt all your lenses. If you go to a 6k, you may as well save up for the PRO version. Its worth the extra coin IMO. The down side is that you may have to change your lens lineup.
great vid!
Thanks for the positive vibes Jude!
Hmmmm something I could consider based on cost and quality
Its amazing how amazing cheap cameras are today. I never that that a camera this good would ever be this cheap.
Hello, thank you so much for your reviews! Do you have any suggestion for budget lens to shoot interviews indoor? Can you please suggest the most budget gear to go with Blackmagic 4k? I will film a documentary about immigrants and refugees. I'm a student, my budget is tight. Thank you very much in advance!
Hi there, I would start with the used market in your local area and look for a Sigma’s 18 to 35 F1.8 in EF mount. And if you can afford one, a speedbooster of some kind. Then this lens can be kept if you ever move on from the MFT mount. Plus for doco work the speedbooster will come in handy for those lower light situations. Cheaper than this would be a couple of Loawa primes or zooms. Hope this helps you out.
Any thoughts on FX-30 compared to Black magic 4k?TY
They are both great cameras. Vastly different price points - P4K super easy to use, FX30, super easy to get a result but more complicated to use. You cant go wrong either way.
@@cinechimp Ty🙏
anytime brother
Great video.
Oh thanks mate. I appreciate your positivity.
im thinking about getting one but at the same time i feel theres an update of the micro cinema camera coming our way this year
You could be right about the micro cinema camera. It would be nice to see it refreshed.
Thanks for this video! Do Canon lenses work on the BM camera?
If you have a EF/FD to MTF adapter yes. MTF can be adapted to literally anything. Viltrox make excellent budget adapters
You pretty much got me off the fence with this video. Which lens would you recommend as a good all rounder until I can afford a better one?
If your using a speed booster, Canon 24-105 L kit lens. Buy it used, they are super affordable. And they have IS. The F4 will be come a F2.8, which is good for most stuff. If you are not using a speed booster, Loawa has amazing affordable lenses that are optically very good. These lenses have good resale value, so if you do decide to move up to FF lenses, you should get most of your money back.
I think it's funny when ppl call bmpcc's cheap. Sure for cinema cameras and pros definitely but for ams like me who saved up and splurged on one, it's like the maybach of cameras for me and my friends
Hey Ben, I think it's awesome that you saved up and bought a BMD pocket cinema camera 4k. Looking back on when I started, it was all film. Man I would have given a kidney for a camera that has this cameras functionality.
@@cinechimp *ahem* it’s actually 6k pro 😮💨I’m in love with the camera, actually prefer the image to the red. But that’s my unpopular opinion.
Hey! If you could do a lighting video for specifically bmpcc’s optimized for its colour space that would be amazing, hard to find that.
Anyway great content man just subbed
what lens are you using for your camera? I have one 24-105 mm canon, 25m Panasonic lumix g, canon 50mm 1.8, lumix
12-35mm. One metabones .64x, I want to shoot interviews, people, and places. I find the use of the camera very poor outside. I can't even see the screen when it is bright. I am waiting for the monitor ordered and hope that it will solve the issue of brightness.
Great question Tim. Im using all EF glass with the Viltrox focal reducer.
My lenses are a full range of Canon CNE primes, Canon EF primes and zooms. But I wouldnt use more than 3 lens for most productions. Travel lite work fast. Sounds like you have a great setup. If you are disappointed in your monitor, send it back and get an EVF, they are much better for focus and outdoors use.
Great video as always!
Q: I'm planning to build an ATEM based Stream/Work Studio. Never planning to shot outside. Would be better to buy a few of the PCC4K vs few of the Studio 4K Pro?
Have a great day!
The pocket 4k for what you are planning would be perfect
@@cinechimp great. Thanks! Have a great day!
@@freddymiguelponce Likewise Freddy
This dude knows
Can you use this as a webcam using HDMI capture?
Yes you absolutely can.
Bad ergonomics? Man, i could sleep with that camera in my hand. It has the best grip of them all
For a mirrorless or DSLR handgrip I would totally agree with you, but for a cinema camera the ergonomics are not good. The price and image quality are the main reasons users forgive the poor ergonomics. A cameras with good ergonomics is the Arri Amira that out of the box requires no gak has a good weight to it and is balanced by design. The only difference is the price, image and build quality.
how do you manual focus on gimbal ? thats the only thing stoped me to join blackmagic is how its limits my creation possibilities when using gimbal
Hi there, I am not a gimbal user, but I would say this, if I was to use a gimbal with the Blackmagic pocket 4k / 6k /6k Pro cinema camera - I would use the DJI RS 3 Pro with lidar and manual lenses. Its pretty rock solid. Or the same setup with a focus puller.
What SD cards do you recommend? How low can you get the compression in braw?
I only recommend what I use myself. So Angelbird SD 128GB AV PROs. They work the best and come with free data recovery. But mainly Im using Angelbird CFast or their PKT SSD 2 go for longer recording times.
I'm looking for GOOD 4K images for slomo documentary-like animal / birds videos ... is this what i need ? And also ... what telefoto / zomm lens would be the equivalent of my Nikon 200-500mm that would be perfect for this body ?? Thanks !
This camera would be great for what it sounds like you are doing, but it may pay for you to get the 6k instead as the resolution + the crop factor would be far more advantageous than just the MFT sensor….food for thought
@@cinechimp Yeah but them I need a powerful computer to process all that data, no ??
Im using a m1 mac mini and can easily cut 4, 6, 8 and 12k…sooooo….
@@cinechimp what year is your m1 Mac mini?
M1 first year first gen, I had the issue, and I remember BMD maybe 1 year after that made resolve native M1 OS compliant. So no more rosetta, so if your mac is still having this issue, its NOT the 3rd party software as Apple will try and tell you. Let me know how you go.
The answer? Yes, I still love my BMPCC4K... Even if I get a KOMODO! 😍🤩🥰
I dont think there are any bad cameras at the moment. Both are a smart choice.
Bit of a price difference...but if it doesnt matter, it doesnt matter
@@cinechimp sure I’m agree with you. I like my both cam. 🙏😊
@@patrickthawizard352 man I would love to own a komodo
Can I Plug It Into AC Directly Over Bettary ?
You sure can. Its the same power input that you would use if running a v-lock via D-tap
Hello there.
Overall, would you recommend this camera or the Gh5?
Hi Flow, tough question. It really depends on what you are trying to achieve?
@@cinechimp I'm using a Nikon D5300 right now and want to upgrade to something with better quality. I plan on doing interviews, adds for local business and documentaries with the new camera.
@@BerserkFlow Ok then the main question I would ask is do you need AF?
If you need AF for video, neither the GH5 or pocket 4k are the right camera for you. You’d be better off with a Canon, Sony and even some of Nikon Z line of cameras.
But these options all vary drastically in price point. So budget is a real concern. If you are using Nikon’s you probably have Nikon glass, so looking a Z-line mirrorless for you could be a good way to save some money and have more lens options. Or you could look into adapting your lenses to the MTF mount.
@@cinechimp autofocus would be really nice, as it's very important when recording people in movement. I'm just now entering into this world of audiovisual, just finished my college and I'm looking for something that is good enough to be used for years to come.
@@BerserkFlow In thats case whats your budget?
If you already have a dedicated stills camera, the Nikon, you should go for a dedicated video camera. The AF hierarchy for dedicated video cameras, not hybrids = 1) Sony/Canon, 2) DJI 3) Red 4)Panasonic/Arri/BMD/Zcam/Kinefinity
and for Hybrids = 1) Sony/Canon 2)Panasonic/Nikon 3)Fujifilm 4)Olympus etc
The best video cameras around 5k USD are Canon c70, Sony FX6 and both will work great straight out of the box.
You also have the Red Komodo or a used Arri Alexa. But both require money spent on accessories to start shooting.
But also dont be afraid to look into the Canon XF range of handy cams. These are excellent cameras, that dont generate a lot of data, have solid AF and work out of the box. They have attached zoom lenses and are pretty good in low light, plus they are SUB 5K new with good audio.
What camera are you using when you are talking?
Eos R
Can you use this camera for interviews? Thanks
Yes you can absolutely use the pocket 4k for interviews. It is a very versatile cinema camera
@@cinechimp thanks for the reply
@@KBMEDIANETWORK No probs. anytime any questions just hit me up
I have had my 4K for 5 years. I could still buy the new "Cinema-6" Full Frame, and STILL refer to my 4K as "My little lady".
nice - what other more expensive cinema cameras are giving you sort lifespan for so little upfront money with the type of ROI you get from these pocket cinema cameras?
@@cinechimp That is a good question. NONE, really. I don't do "Run and Gun", or "shoot and scoot". When I do ENG stories, complete with interviews and B-Roll, I need nothing more than HD footage, or even just stills and narration. I can use my venerable HXR-NX300 for THAT, plus my iPhone 12 Pro Max with the Blackmagic spp for B-Roll. I need no expensive cameras for that. I used an old Cinealta F3 when helping someone with a shoot, and the only advantage was the Super 35 sensor. Otherwise, Sony, at the time, seemed to be like Arri - concentrating on color science rather than resolution. NOPE! The PCC 4K is probably the best one for its price range.
@@SLACKPLAN9 Oh that brings back memories from when I used to shoot ENG reportage but with SONY 900 series, zooms CCD sensors - in a way I do miss those days, those older videos cameras where great on the shoulder, like the old Aatons and SRs. But I never bought one as a full-time working cameraman, I left that to the stations and rental houses. A lot of people today just don't get how lucky they are to be able to OWN the cameras they use. 2010 F3 announced in the 18-23K USD and was advertised as a low cost option. 2 years later BMD 2,.5k cinema camera sub 3k, then pocket 4k in 2018 at 1300 bucks. Crazy!
Reapect for being frank about it. Just got one more subscriber
Hi there, thanks for the sub - appreciate your time
Wait you just said it has NO RUN TIME LIMITS… uhhh then why does it shut off after 30min?
You batteries must be old or non genuine. Try using the newer Canon LPE6N batteries internally, you should get over an hour per battery.
Even our old genuine batteries still get 50mins record time.
If you are actually on a production and not running around with the camera in your hand, use V-lock or mini Vlock battery with your pocket 4k. Then run times for the camera will be several days at a time. For really demanding shoots we us a 230Wh batteries with both our 6k Pro ad 4k, which is no different from any other production camera on the market. In fact this camera with the same Vlock as an Alexa requires only 20% of the batteries for the same shoot day.
But if you are just using the camera to document your life, cars, horse riding and home videos - you would probably be better off with a Canon or a Sony.
Can I use it just to create RUclips shorts and tik tok vids?
Sure can, but if you need autofocus you might be better going for something from Canon, Sony or Panasonic.
Really struggling to decide between the pocket 4k and GH5s
Pocket 4k for image quality, gh5s for versatility. I dont think you will be unhappy with either.
Can you use for music video
absolutely
HEY THERE.. AMAZING VIDEO.. IN THE LATEST UPDATE 7.9 THEY REMOVED THE OPTION TO SHOOT IN 75 FPS !!!!!!!!!!
sneaky bmd. wonder why they have done this? what say you?
@@cinechimp I contacted them .. they said we don't have a clear answer to you.. they said you can always try to shoot in other frame rates .. and you still have the 60fps .. so I insisted to get an answer they said its an unfortunate but we can't give you an answer !!
@@cinechimp I feel like I am the only one who noticed cause I loved shooting at 75 fps.. no one else talks about it..
@@ibrahim_films I completely didnt notice.
Seems illegal for you to purchase something one way and they take it away.
Agree 100%
How's autofocus on this camera?
Well its not Canon R5 or A7siii quality, but it has one shot.
I meant the autofocus on the video, sorry! :)
@@razvangrindean Yes you get one shot. Tap to focus. There is no continuous AF. Otherwise it is all manual.
How does this camera to my Nikon z50?
I only have limited experience with Nikon camreas, but I would say if you want a dedicated budget friendly cinema camera, the pocket ccamera is far better than the z50. But you will need to kit it out, you cant grab it and go like the z50.
Gyro Stabilization. Free Update. Improved Focus Assist. Free Update.
straight up brother
Anyway to shoot in 4K H.265 for small file sizes?
In camera, the smallest would be proxy prores. Externally Im not sure.
Blackmagic just confirmed no h265 support internally.
@@asafblasbergvideographer Yeh I dont see why they would, Prores is an industry standard
See for me it’s tough coz my iPhone 14promax looks very similar to cameras like this… I feel like if you have iphone14pm just save for a $5000 camera if you want noticeably different better quality and dof cinematic cameras
Hmmm there are so many differences, the iphone doesnt come close is so many areas. But if you are only publishing online, maybe I could see where you are coming from.
pocket 4k is the cheapest in terms of media and quality camera on the market and also the most smooth in terms editing. buying thisused for 700 USD plus speedboster. this is the most valuable setup you can imagine... but its not vloging camera... !!! so for every day use you should think about second camera! with AF like canon or fuji
Man your words are spot on.
How should you use the camera then if it’s not a vlogging camera ?
@@C_itsNemofilmmaking im guessing
For a bit more, Sigma FP seems like a better deal.
possibly, but that system has plenty of drawbacks of its own
is it worth getting used for $825? :)
depends on which currency you are buying in?
@@cinechimp In SEK (Sweden). Found it now used (in mint condition) for 6000 SEK so around $567. So thinking about buying it.
around 528 Euro - so a third of the price mentioned in the video :)
@@Ivolo89 Thats a bargin! Test it - if its good - snap it up!
@@Ivolo89 that pocket cinema camera at that price its a good buy. But like any used camera test it first.
BMPCC4K as a cinema camera is better than Sony FX30, all Lumix cameras (GH6 S5IIX etc). And generally better than BMPCC4K in the budget segment is only BMPCC6K (Pro or new FF) or Sony FX3 + Atomos Ninja V (FX3 itself is not better) or Canon c70 or Red Comodo... but these are much more expensive solutions.
I hear you - hey great video on the armed forces. Did you shoot that with the pocket 4k?
Ugly? I've always thought the design was beautiful.
In reference to cinema cameras yes.
how is this titled 2024 when you uploaded it 2years ago. Crap click bait.
Our opinion hasn’t evolved and neither has your photographic eye.
this camera is 1500 in Europe 😆
used in France still 800+, which is crazy
Black Magic knew what they were doing: give people the ability to capture cinema level images with minimal hardware at a minimal price point. Nice achievement 🪄✨
Its a great camera, the plastic build quality for a “cinema camera” isn't great, but at the price point would be drastically different if it was metal, like the new Pyxis, which better meets, the definition of a cinema camera.