My thoughts on every current Porsche 911 991.2 Carrera to Turbo S
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2017
- I often get asked for my opinion on individual Porsche 911 models so I thought I would quickly run through current range and give my thoughts good or bad. Remember this is just my thoughts and opinions, you are most welcome to disagree!
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You are a fucking moron Nick.
This is indeed the general consensus
Looks like someone hasn't been on the toilet today. :D
Nick Murray I think he was probably hoping for Becky's opinions on 911s. I feel his disappointment ;)
Lmao
You would be right!
The only 911 model I can afford is the TAKARA TOMY Scale 1/64 Porsche 911 Carrera
lol
I love your videos Nick. You are genuinely the only youtubers page I visit often just to make sure I don't miss anything
same here :)
turbo (s) is my favourite as i love the back, and the launch it’s just incredible that a 4 seat car with “only” 580hp can decimate an adventador or likewise in a drag race
Love this type of content
agreed. MORE MORE MORE
Same
This is the definitive Porsche video we needed...I volunteer you as the man to do an updated version of this video every model year. Great stuff as always, Nick. Sorry for not insulting you like everyone else in the comments. I'm sure I will one day.
Petar Miskovic agree, my heads spins when looking On the Porsche website at the millions of different variants
Great video, absolutely great video Nick !
I really like that subtle differences between my ideas and yours on some models added different perspectives to my views on those particular models. Utilizing the configurator in the video also sums up to a nice overall presentation, too.
Great summation Nick; Love your take on things. Keep up the great work!
*I honestly think the targa is the best of the range..but I'm probably in the minority on that. But it's nice to see that you like it as well. One of the few cars that look perfect from the factory..such a classic looking shape.*
Glad to see some love for the Targa! I've always thought if I can ever afford a 911, that's the one I'd pick.
What do you reckon to the 997 Targa with the big glass sunroof?
Love the video Nick! Thanks for posting. 911 is a great car, and you picked the right one for you! That's what so great about the model lineup choose. Not alot off manufacturers have this luxury
Very nice. Bought my first Porsche last April---17 turbo s cab. Best car I have ever owned! Keep up the good work👍
Nick thank you for sharing your thoughts about the 911's thanks for your work.... and your time here... you are cool man!!
To note: On the TT/TTS the side openings are not intakes.They are intercooler cooling ports. The intake is in the rear lid in front of the spoiler.
Correct.
Love this video. We need more Nick Murray philosophy here. They will be naming stars after you Nick long after you're gone.
spot on description of the GT3. just drove one saturday that i thought i was going to buy but i changed my mind afterwards. fun car....but definitely need a track around
we love your show. I have my own thoughts on many cars, but that's the fun part life. have a great day Nick.
Another great video even if it wrinkles some feathers. Agree with 95% of your assessments. I would extend the "Turbos have too much power" comment to the GTS ans S however (at least for the street). I optioned and bought a 991.2 C4 to make it "look" exactly like a GTS with the price to match. I just didn't want all that horse power with a manual. My C4 is faster than the fasted production car made in the US in the 1980s. That is enough for me.
Thanks for your thoughts, Nick. Very helpful & educational
Nick - top round up & largely agree 100% with your views. I'm considering getting my first modern Porsche. so very helpful.
Great video! Thanks for going through the 911 models.
YOUR GREATEST VIDEO OF ALL TIME!!
Kudos!
Very nice video dude keep it up man, as a fellow Porsche fan I really enjoy your videos
Widebody, centre lock wheels and being able to spec leather interior makes the GTS is the sweet spot of 991's range
Oh man so excited to watch this - lunch with a new nick Murray video!
I'm happy you had positives on the targa. I love it but seems to never get it's due.
14:20 gt3 + touring option = WIN
Nick - Thanks for the rundown. I just bought a C4 and as you note compared to the Turbo (which I was also looking at and took a test drive) it is actually more fun. OF course the Turbo was an automatic and the C4 I bought is manual. I think it's a great entry into the Porsche world. As far as the brakes I have no intention of taking it on a track and have found them to be very solid so far. Thanks for the informative videos.
As a new Porsche owner every time get in my Turbo it gives me the same feeling as a little kid going to Disneyland. I agree with everything you said even with the too much power, like you I love the quad exhaust.
This is the 3rd time I watch this video ! ( every time I fell in love with a different 911 :) ) Great video, thx Nick !
Thanks Nick, taking William's comments into account it is a perfect analysis!
Regarding the Turbo S, it's always more enjoyable to drive slow car fast than fast car slow.
Turder but its the best to drive a fast car fast😉
Except that 4s is not a slow car by any means :) and with that in mind, I’d rather drive a fast car slow (knowing that I can go much faster when necessary). Driving Panamera S, having been driving Panamera Turbo S, I would not hesitate a moment to switch :)
Accordion And More the old na panameras , realy felt a bit
How should i say... a bit sluggish.
Oh it's one of those... go on, tell us all about how your miata is better than any car in the world
Great video Nick! Loved it....good to hear your thoughts - even though my favourite model is the GTS (minus the alcantara) haha.
Hi Nick, thanks for another great video. Definitely generated a lot of comments! I think your best point is that there are so many choices for the 911, and everything is about personal taste. Having just picked up my 991.2 Night blue metallic manual GTS this weekend (colour choice and transmission were influenced by your videos on your car) I absolutely love it!! However I would never be offended if someone didn't like my choice, because the car is for me alone. Keep up the great videos! Cheers from Canada
I agree with you 100% in this video. You had the driving experience comments spot on with the Turbo. Totally agree with you. That's why the GT3 6 speed is my favorite Porsche because when I think of Porsche I think of the driving experience more than I do 0-60 time for example. But on the other hand, if I could by a Turbo I would but not necessarily because I think it's the best Porsche but because it's the down right fastest...like you said. Your channel is brilliant!! I am subbed, and by the way your info in the "getting a strong discount on a new Porsche" video is GOLD. Take care man.
Funny enough I was after porsche experience , drove 991 Cs and GTS , then I saw a 981 boxster GTS, drove that and the amount of pleasure I got from that car was so great that I bought it on the same day
I agree with your assessment of the Turbo models. My car (2017 Camaro SS) is so quick that you don't get to work the car. Great review.
I think i'll just start with the basic model. Thanks for the video!
I liked this style of video. I think it would be interesting to see you do something similar with your thoughts on 911 competitors like the AMG gts, R8, NSX, F type R, Corvette etc.
I love your channel Nick. Keep it up.
Hey Nick, great video as usual. I would like to know your thoughts on the new Boxster and Cayman range. Have you driven the 4-cylinder turbo models?
Thank you for your thoughtful commentary.
Today is August 26, 2017 and there is 2013 911 Carrera with 11,000 miles, PDK, 658 - Power Steering Plus, Porsche certified with 2 year 50,000 mile warranty for $64,000. Am I missing something or this not a $90,000+ car with 11,000 miles and around a 33% discount?
I hear you about the turbo. Its much more fun to drive a car at its limits than so far away from its limits. Even as a current Porsche owner, one of the most fun drives I ever had was taking a Hyundai rental car across HWY 108 in the California Sierras. I slid the car the entire time. Awesome!
I have to agree with comments others have made regarding the GTS, although I agree with Nick's thoughts re: alkantara. The GTS has that magic combination of RWD and wider rear fenders. Personally, I like the centerlock wheels too. Just delete the alkantara upholstery when you place your order.
I've driven a 911 Coupe and Cabrio back to back and I think you missed a downside. The rear visibility with the top up. I was a little surprised at how narrow the rear visibility was from inside the car with the top up. Also I share you sentiment about the GTS, especially the center lock wheels.
Nick Keyzer I think lane change assist is a must on any cab for this reason.
Hi nick I have an M4 and I am looking into switching to a 911.. I’ve been told you loose a lot of car if you go with anything less than a 911s would a base 911 feel to underpowered compared to the M4?
Nick, how did you configure the Turbo S with steel brakes?? I thought the PCCB is standard in the Turbo S, at least here in Germany.
Btw. wait till the GT3 Touring is gonna be presented at the IAA in Frankfurt...that's a proper GT3 as a daily.
I like you're videos Nick keep up the good work
Well, after owning three 911 over the years starting in 1977, I am back in the market for another. The kids are now college grads and I'm single again, so I can now buy whichever one I want. :-) I am presently looking at the S model since that is what I've always owned before, and I like the equipment/options offered on the C2S. I"m in California so no need for the C4S.
Thanks for the model comparisons, I did learn a few things I had not yet "discovered" researching the new 991's. One thing that strikes me as funny still, are the many pseudo Porsche experts that exist in the world. They were there when I bought my first 911 in 1977, and they're still there.. LOL
Which one did you choose?
Felice Graziano your mom
Fun little review Nick, thanks Mate. For me (in California) it's the Carrera S all day.
The GT3 is my favorite model in the line. Sadly, thrill-ride cars usually sit. I have a sports car that has sat for 6months, because my wife hates how it rides and her groceries won't fit, lol. Plus I an lazy and it's kind of a pain to get it out.
Thanks for the thorough run down. It's good to hear from an owner's prospective. The 911 is such a wonderfully versatile car, I think they can fit into nearly every driver's lifestyle.
hi nick. how are you? loved your video. is 911 carera realible after 80000km ?what issues will.i likely encounter as Porsche owner? or gtr is much more realible?
Love watching your videos. I am looking to purchase my first Porsche. I found a great deal on a 2011 Turbo S and was looking to see your thoughts about that year. It is from a Porsche dealer and was just had a major service done and will get a PPI done.
Very informative, great channel!
screw the haters. your channel made me buy a 991.2 :)
Same here.
Just picked mine up as well. Lightly used. Not the spec I really wanted, but they're tough to come by in the exact spec unless I go new.
Probably the smartest of the RUclips car channels.
Nick great video....! I love my Gen 2 Turbo S... think you would like my spec. Midnight Blue with Crayon and Blue interior
Porsche 911 is the best looking car and best drivers car in the world
You would say that
lol
Adolf Hitler thanks for the review
I always like your videos. Keep it up.
You can option a front lift on a GT3 and sofa or adaptive seats.
Nick, I own a 911, 991.1 GTS and I believe it's 1.6 inches wider than the Carrera and Carrera S.
So you can get the wide body on a 2 wheel drive Carrera if you choose a GTS. I don't believe you can get a wide body on a 2 wheel drive Carrera any other way.
You can delete Alcantara and opt for the non center lock wheels too.
Nick,
One of my favorite Porsches is that of the 928. I loved it so much, I bought one after watching "Risky Business" one too many times, and just falling in love with them. I found an 84' S (silver/red interior) and it was a nightmare to own. Breaking down constantly, and literally leaving me with hardly any time to drive between visits to Service. I still love it though, as I've accepted the heartache that is, 928 ownership. I loved it's sound, 50/50 weight distribution, and raw v8 sound. I'll surely never forget it.
How do you feel about the extinct, and dinosaur, Porsche 928??
Thanks. Randy
Just ran into your channel. Best serious vlogs, but stil fun to watch! There are too much clowns on RUclips saying nothing! They’re can learn from you! Keep up the good work!
Enjoyable review. Albert is back!
Nick, thanks for your work on all these videos. They have really helped me with my current car purchase. I am a wheelchair user (paraplegic) & as such I cannot test drive any vehicle, as I need to have hand controls fitted. As I have to disassemble my wheelchair and bring it into my car over my lap, a 2 door car is generally better than a 4 door. My present car is a VW Scirocco (don't think you get them in the US, but basically a VW Golf GTi in a fancy 2 door frock). But time (& opportunity) to upgrade. Yesterday I ordered a Porsche 911 Carrera. PDK (manual is not really an option, although it is possible to get hand controlled clutches). I live in sunny South Africa, so no need for 4WD. Same internal trim as your present 911, but went for the Sapphire Blue. Also went for the Adaptive Cruise Control (based on your recommendation/review) as hands get tired driving the 1000 miles from Cape Town to Jo'burg as I regularly do. Also went for the reversing camera (yes in a small coupé, that had good visibility, but I struggle to twist or look over my shoulder. One major difference though; my dog will not be joining me in the Porsche as he is a little bigger than yours. Deefer Dog (think about it) is a Rhodesian Ridgeback weighing 95kg!! But basically I wanted to thank you for your videos as they have helped me enormously in my choice, and then the spec. Cheers mate
Wish we could get the Scirocco here! Love them
Yes, the Scirocco has been a great car. But the Scirocco R (unlike the Golf R) is still just Front Wheel Drive, and I think it is asking too much to cope with all that through the front wheels, so that was ruled out. I am probably one of the few people who are thankful for the new turbocharged engines in the 911, as I often drive up to Jo'burg, which is at 2000m altitude, so non-turbo engines make around 17% less power up there. But very, very excited about my new order...may not see it this year...so I shall have to watch all your videos again in the interim!
Funny. We have all cabs! Heidi
Love me the cabs...
Nick make a video for best used/cpo 911 under 60k..
I agree with your comments on the LED DRL lighting on the Turbo/Turbo S. I prefer the DRLs and the tail lights of the 991.1 Turbo S over the 991.2 Turbo S. I also agree with your comments on the rear deckled; I like the 991.1 better. I think the 991.2 does a better job of integrating the bumper vents and reflectors behind the rear tires than the 991.1.
Thank you as a newbie to 911's I was confused as to the difference between the cars. I am looking to buy one once I have the finances together in the next 3 years or so, therefore I will have plenty of time to research them. You said the Targa holds it's value the best, which one holds the value the less, would that be the basic model? By the way you have an Orb at 18:44?
Great video I got a lot out of it thanks Nick.
I got the 911 4 years back the bace model
the only I could afford, I hope 🤞 that’s good on your review
MORE Porsche videos Nick!!!! Thanks :) Good video.
Would love to hear an update about this with the new models!
Nick, in normal dry weather driving how hard is it really to break the rear loose on your c4s?
I would like to request a dry weather hard driving video to explain further the differences between driving the 2s and 4s in the dry
Nick, you have made my mind up, thank you,
Hi Nick nice one. My comment is that torque vectoring is available as an option for base Carrera, although only for the AWD version. I opt it in my Carrera 4 and love it especially because including fully variable electronic (only with PDK) 'Sperrdifferential' as well.
Absolutely cool videos. I consumed them all and last week I ordered my first 911, an carmine red carrera 4s with PDK and PSE . I agree with you about the GTS, No seats with Alcantara,i hate it. Greetings from Aachen Germany 🙋🙋
Ulf Rohde congrats on the new car! Enjoy it on the autobahn!
"hard to get allocation on targa". What do you mean? I've never had a new Porsche but isn't it like, when you want to buy it, they sell it to you?
Thanks Nick - brilliant review
Hi Nick
And your thoughts on getting a 991.1?
Currently saving
What website did you go to for this? That didn't look like the Porsche web site to me. Thanks.
I just bought a 17 CPO C4S. The car is an absolute dream.
I actually really like your reviews.
Unfortunately the GT2RS is missing and the new 911 GT3 Touring (which could be a pretty sweet deal for people, who like the performance of the GT3 but a bit more subdued looks).
You should also make another video, what you think about the current Boxsters and Caymans!
Hello Nick, I always dreamed of owning a Porsche, in the uk, which Porsche can I buy new or used that wouldn’t depreciate much in 3 years ? Your advice please
Excellent review.
Other than the caliper and rotor size difference between the Base and the S, do they also have different brake master cylinders? Wondering if you can buy the S calipers and rotors and essentially get a Base with S brakes. For me, the biggest proponent for getting the S is not the stronger engine but the upgraded brakes.
Hi Nick, thanks for another insightful video. If you had to pick a older generation 911 model, instead of from the 991 range, then what would it be I wonder?
It would depend on my budget but I really enjoy driving the 993 or the SC models and I have no interest at all in the 997 or 996 range.
Love this video Nick
I like your car with the exception of the manual. With that said I was planning to win the Powerball
Nick, thank you for your in depth review. You do contradict yourself in the assessment of the GTS. You state that the only downside to the 4S is t that you prefer a rear wheel drive 911 on dry surfaces, but that there is no rear wheel drive 911 available in the wide body. Well guess what? The GTS you put down is the rear wheel drive wide body you are wishing for.
Great presentation! I'm in the market for a 911, such as your model. I'm a new subscriber, what year is it? Perhaps I missed it.
Hi Nick , My experience with Turbo 911.2 convertible and I agree with you its great car but it feels like the rode is too short to enjoy the feeling of the shift and the sound but if lots of fun and definitely unique
For me the car is going to be the Targa GTS! Just can't get over it's looks and GTS package gives me pretty much everything I want and great sounds!
(Binge watching all of Nick's videos currently)
Someone explain this: Why is PTV an option even on the base 718 Cayman, yet not on the base Carrera?
The biggest issue with the GTS is the damn center wheel nut. I live in rural Japan, and not a SINGLE shop can even take a wheel off.
I never thought about it, but now I'm sooo glad I didn't get one when it was offered to me...(Porsche offered me an 11% discount)
When ordering new you can spec regular 5 bolts at no cost though
problem is the long wait to order one.... The discount applied to cars already built and in Japan
For that 11% discount couldn't you bring a tool along to take the wheels of with? :-)
I bought my 991.2 Turbo with opt. Center lug nut. Porsche provides the tool to remove them. I talk to the Tech he said get a Milwaukee M18 Fuel 1/2 in cordless impact wrench will brake the 445 ft pound to remove and reset the torque wrench to 1 to get a tight enough (300 ft lb )torque to not lose the wheel, go to Any Porsche dealer they will for Free torque to spec.
You should consider working as a salesman on the weekends at your local Porsche dealer.
The dealerships would probably fire him for selling too many cheap ones and not upselling.
Do dealerships allow weekend salesmen? Cause I would love to do that
Trebor Heminway "cheap ones" :D
Great video Nick👌🏽
You Always seem to hate on the GTS, in fact it is unique!! every metric is Tuned diffrently, it is the Sweet Spot 911 . you can not Configure a carrera 2S to be exactly as the GTS. GTS 2 is still wider on the back for instance
As I said you can configure the C4S to be exactly the same as the GTS
Yes but not if you want a 2 and not a 4 ;)
This is indeed true, you can get the RWD model with the wide body on the GTS
Freaked me out, just left your Rich Piana video lol.
luimarco you should get a 911 brother
Is there a limit to how fast you are supposed to drive the cabriolet or targa with the top up?