I watched all six episodes and it was put together very well except for some redundancy. Great reporting. I enjoyed it a lot. Now, will their be any reforms? Probably not. I still don't understand how can cops investigate cops. It's an oxymoron. As you can see it doesn't work. Cover, cover and more cover.
This state....WOW...This is the kind of cops who think they can do as they please while we the citizens get the book thrown at us...ACCOUNTABLE IS A MUST NATIONWIDE
Wow every profession requires accountability. Letting bad police remain in service is outrageous. What happens when prosecution fail because of bad officers.
Police are to be held ABOVE reproach. They absolutely should be fired for "small" things like lying. Every dishonest and unfair action should be treated extremely seriously. Hypocrites cannot enforce law. They should be expedited to prison themselves for breaking one of the highest positions of trust in the land.
If u hold an ounce of power in 'Murica, you ARE good at what you do (even when there's proof otherwise), you ARE doing good for The People (even when there's proof otherwise). So no one ask ANY questions. To do so is un-American. Consolidation of corruption behind an ever-expanding firewall of deceit and implicit trust.
Where I come from you can check the record of your doctor and the complaints lodged against her or him but in Arizona you can’t do the same for the police. Strange isn’t it.
BULLYS WITH A BADGE will never be held accountable until we the people hold every representative of every state liable with the power of our vote! Any lawsuit needs to be the responsibility of the department police fund or the police retirement and or forfeiture fund or the officer personally!
Whenever there is an officer involved shooting or use of force investigation it should be done by either an agency not associated with that department and the DA’s office (since they work closely with cops) . This idea that cops can investigate cops impartially is a joke.
You have to give it up for this reporter and especially in AZ. I hope Cops Don’t get After Him because they do hire private investigator to find any dirt on him to ruin his career.
Damn, great job on the investigation. Pretty sure no changes will be done anytime soon. That Union leader and that attorney making those ignorant statements is laughable.
Thank Dave Biscobain(so!) for your admirable effort & for this series. Honestly, it deserves an award. So do you. I wont forget your name. Thank You. 👍🙏✌️❤️
This is the reporting that I have been waiting for, from street cops, detectives, prosecutors, judges, profit prisons just fit so perfectly together and the disregard for the constitution is eye opening.
excellent work, very rarely will i ever say the media has done good work but this is the best ive seen for modern media. wish more was out to uncover corruption at all levels.
In the Army, we definitely wanted to get into gunfights. I can ABSOLUTELY see how many cops actually do start to hunger for the adrenaline rush of hurting someone else.
@@jeremiahjohnson7515 That's not quite it. It's a hero complex. Some people deserve to be killed. And these cops convince themselves that they're doing good. It's not always bad to have a desire to kill. I certainly did while I was in the Army. Despite this, I NEVER would have killed anyone unless the situation was called for.
That man who said he doesn't think the police are out there lighting people up. Is so blind he need a guide dog and he is the reason why things don't change.
This is the interview that did it for me, I was rooting for this Chief. But this was a triple gut punch for me. I'm glad she got the heck out of Dodge. Dave put his foot on their necks and still hasn't let up to this day! Pulitzer Prize winner work!!!!
forget the list we need accountability for every police officer or law enforcement officers in the state of Arizona and hold them accountable by sending them to jail
Some of the best investigative reporting ive seen. Cops are trained to lie frame entrap and are completely out of control. The 10% of good ones that are left need to help clean out the force.
Until the police CHIEFS are held *professionally* accountable for updating the Brady List, they have no reason to comply. Until the police UNIONS are held *financially* accountable for keeping bad officers on the force, they have no reason to NOT keep bad officers employed (because that bad officer is still a dues-paying member - money for the union accounts).
Thanks 🙏 for your reporting. I’m scared to comment on this…I can’t imagine how you deal with reporting! This is an extremely important topic. Please know you are so essential and matter in a corrupt situation. Corrupt officials are in all organizations not just the police who cry “victim”.
Just more evidence that law enforcement should be a minimum wage job because no amount of money or training can ever FIX THIS KIND OF STUPIDITY in law enforcement
These are not just errors or misconduct in the sense that they violated department policy. They did violate department policy, but they’ve also, in many cases, committed a violent crime against a citizen of their community who they were supposed to be protecting, and serving. They should be fired, prosecuted, and never again allowed to be in law enforcement anywhere in the country! I believe that a zero tolerance approach to this would not only improve police relations in the community, but it would inspire a higher quality of applicants to law enforcement. These interactions are life-changing for the victims, and should be dealt with harshly, especially because of the authority they’ve abused as police officers!
Is the Brady list available to the public? I live in NC, and it didn't look like it's available to the public. I just found out that police body cam footage in NC is also not available to us either. Even with a FOIA request.
As stated before. Nurses, doctors, teachers & more are accountable to the state board for disciplinary actions taken against an individual who has breached the code of ethics prescribed by the code of conduct for their profession. These disciplinary actions are part of a professional’s licensing renewal or to be used to suspend that person’s license to practice. Why is this not a mandatory practice for, of all things, policing in each 50 states of America. The Brady list should be pubic accessible & used to keep undesirable cops from hopping from one police department to another. With the hiring in a given profession accountability is paramount.
I have an experiment... now police officers have right too...so this would have to be done under a terms of employment exemption...Stop and search 1000 cops and their vehicles randomly and without warning and see how many "back up" guns are found and how many are not registered and untraceable. Perfect for planting.
OMG! WARNING RANT. Firstly to be a police officer you MUST be held to a higher accountability, otherwise you are no better than a murder on the streets, this includes reacting to people who will press your buttons your training should have taught you that. Secondly if you are worried about body cams what are you hiding. The fact that an officer can be fired in one state and become a police officer in another leaves me speechless. ALL police officers should have a nationwide standard of training. And each investigation into a officers conduct should be handled by a outside organisation. The database or Brady's list should be mandatory and nationwide. I just cannot believe how they act like the wild west without consequences
I live 2000 miles from Arizona and have never even been there, but Dave Biscobing may be my favorite reporter on the air today. Ill watch anything that guy investigates
what's the issue here, if you lie on a report you broke the law, if you beat up a person you broke the law, if you beat some one who is handcuffed you broke the law, if you sexually assault some one (rape) you broke the law. Why is it that I can go into the records of a doctor, pharmacist, politician, and a whole host of other professions, but some how cops are immune to scrutiny? Treat cops like citizens are treated, you break the law, you are put on trial, either you are guilty or not, i dont see a issue here.
so whats the difference then, of this kind of list and people being blackballed from renting an apartment for a DUI, for evictions... ?? all are public record, why isnt this?
Only a truly incompetent prosecutor HAS a “default position” about any witness, police included. Especially police. You’ve already instilled institutional bias into your own judgment of every case. And that makes you supremely shitty at your job and someone who fundamentally misunderstands your role in the criminal justice system. I don’t say this lightly. I was a federal prosecutor for over a decade. I’ve walked more than a few miles in those shoes but was smart enough to know you never blindly trust anyone based on their position. It’s lazy, it’s wrong and ultimately is a losing strategy-in cases and in life.
This is the kind of media work that the 5th Estate should be doing. It shows a real problem and discusses the many things that should be done. An informed society is important. I honestly believe that people will respond to this kind of reporting with loyalty and respect. It is something hard to earn.
“That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved.” - said no Prosecuting Attorney, ever.
And shouldn't aspiring police officers be given a psychological evaluation to see are they fit to serve, and thereafter when involved in misconduct be required to attend psychological therapy to judge whether they are fit to return to protect and serve the community residents whom they are abusing.
These guys are armed and command vast authority.... they need to be transparent and trusted. On the reverse side, we ask a lot of officers. It might be good to specialize in what officers do, and it possible that the changes might welcome.
the real problem is that our court started allow police officer to lie during interview "interrogations" so if they think they can lie, then they can lie any time, remember all they need is a high school diploma to be cops , so if you allow a high schooler to do something they think they can apply it to everything, I believe that a cop can lie when they have reasonable anticable suspicion of a "real crime" not a traffic violation, but not un till then, also I think it should be mandatory " federally" for police to tell you why they stop you when doing a traffic stop, the reason for this is because 2 thing will happen, 1 they bad guy will try to get away giving the officer the legality to arrest or detain the person, 2 the not guilty person wont have to be hurt by cop that don't want to give an answer about the stop, and I think supervisor should be mandatory to show if requested by civilian and they need to get at least 2 years of constitutional law under their belt to be able to be supervisor, if I don't have the right to know why I got stop by my employ, I should have the right not to pay taxes to cover that employ salary. we pay them we have the right to know everything about their job. and I think all the cops that are in the list should be moved to desk duty for 2 year then they can go back with matching salary for the job, will make them think twice about not telling the truth again
We the people should DEMAND no more civil assest forfeiture, strip qualified immunity from cops, and strip absolutely immunity from prosecuters. As voters WE SHOULD STOP ELECTING LAWYERS WHO IN TURN MAKE MORE LAWS THAT THE JACKBOOTS "HAVE" TO ENFORCE.
If officers aren’t saying “ I just want to do this and I just want to do that “ then why are you planting evidence or lying about something that never happened?
"Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts...perhaps the fear of a loss of power." Author John Steinbeck. Defund their ability to deny justice. Provide a fund to support the delivery of justice. An Oath is, as a person of faith would believe, a formal calling to God as witness to one's solemn truth that one sincerely intends to do what one says! For those of no faith, the Oath sworn would therefore be a solemn attestation of the truth or inviolability of one's word! Well now what part of the Oath they swore to, they do not wish to understand or can't remember?
the federal legislature needs to step in and pass federal laws criminalizing the behavior of not just the phoenix police but every police department country wide so that these criminals with badges get charged with felonies, prosecuted and sued.
The group involve in creating this story should go from town to town and either find more criminals or find some of those good apples and do a similar story as an example of how to do it right
now who is getting locked up mostly children that make dumb mistakes and live to regret and they have to pay the full price with no mercy because the public where told want's them to be tough on crime only when it's a reg person and not the police or other officers shame is what it is hiding the truth that no one is perfect but the poor pay the bill
I watched all six episodes and it was put together very well except for some redundancy. Great reporting. I enjoyed it a lot. Now, will their be any reforms? Probably not. I still don't understand how can cops investigate cops. It's an oxymoron. As you can see it doesn't work. Cover, cover and more cover.
and here i thought thats what "internal" affairs was for🤔🤔
This state....WOW...This is the kind of cops who think they can do as they please while we the citizens get the book thrown at us...ACCOUNTABLE IS A MUST NATIONWIDE
Great work! This stuff NEEDS to be know and reported! Keep disclosing these violations and coverups!
Wow every profession requires accountability. Letting bad police remain in service is outrageous. What happens when prosecution fail because of bad officers.
They’re in bed with the prosecutors. They are on the same team, which is a huge problem with the system.
A news program that investigated? WTF? Great series.
wow, loved the series! this explains why nothing will ever changed until we demand more from Police officers.
Police are to be held ABOVE reproach. They absolutely should be fired for "small" things like lying. Every dishonest and unfair action should be treated extremely seriously. Hypocrites cannot enforce law. They should be expedited to prison themselves for breaking one of the highest positions of trust in the land.
Agreed.. If they're willing to lie about the little things-
They will ABSOLUTELY lie about the big things.
I agree with you 100%
AMEN!
Police officer lying is not a small thing, it could ruin someone’s life.
If u hold an ounce of power in 'Murica, you ARE good at what you do (even when there's proof otherwise), you ARE doing good for The People (even when there's proof otherwise). So no one ask ANY questions. To do so is un-American.
Consolidation of corruption behind an ever-expanding firewall of deceit and implicit trust.
And despite knowing all this, all this being wide open, on the, public, in front of everyone. Somehow, people will say this is not a problem. Insane.
It's because delusions are very hard to overcome
No kidding... that look of contempt in Police Chief Jeri Williams' eyes, and her condescending, monotone voice... and lack of eye contact.
Where I come from you can check the record of your doctor and the complaints lodged against her or him but in Arizona you can’t do the same for the police. Strange isn’t it.
A lot of places , this is a national issue
It’s Not “strange”.… it’s deliberate
BULLYS WITH A BADGE will never be held accountable until we the people hold every representative of every state liable with the power of our vote! Any lawsuit needs to be the responsibility of the department police fund or the police retirement and or forfeiture fund or the officer personally!
Statewide Hell.... It needs to be NATIONWIDE
Whenever there is an officer involved shooting or use of force investigation it should be done by either an agency not associated with that department and the DA’s office (since they work closely with cops) . This idea that cops can investigate cops impartially is a joke.
You have to give it up for this reporter and especially in AZ. I hope Cops Don’t get
After Him because they do hire private investigator to find any dirt on him to ruin his career.
You know they will
Good police should never be afraid of a system of accountability. There’s nothing to fear if you’re not breaking the law. And there’s the rub.
Yea and that's what cops tell us but look at the hypocrisy!
Cops investigate themselves and conclude they never break the law. 🤢🤢🤢 🤮🤮🤮
That's the thing exactly.
It's a career for high school dropouts!!!!
Funny, that is part of the strategy the cops use to violate your rights…”if you have nothing to hide, why won’t you talk to me?”
Great job keep reporting on this every week. Keep the public informed!!
Damn, great job on the investigation. Pretty sure no changes will be done anytime soon. That Union leader and that attorney making those ignorant statements is laughable.
When "The People of the State" are the accuser, there is, right at the start, a conflict of interest. Have a nice day.
Damn ..i live in florida ..this should be shared more
Thank Dave Biscobain(so!) for your admirable effort & for this series. Honestly, it deserves an award. So do you. I wont forget your name. Thank You. 👍🙏✌️❤️
This is the reporting that I have been waiting for, from street cops, detectives, prosecutors, judges, profit prisons just fit so perfectly together and the disregard for the constitution is eye opening.
Great investigative work, should be shared more.
Thank goodness for this channel! Thank you for sharing this, I feel for the victims who have to wait so long for any kind of justice!!
Awesome job! Thank you for reporting.
excellent work, very rarely will i ever say the media has done good work but this is the best ive seen for modern media. wish more was out to uncover corruption at all levels.
In the Army, we definitely wanted to get into gunfights. I can ABSOLUTELY see how many cops actually do start to hunger for the adrenaline rush of hurting someone else.
It's why they became cops in the first place.. ego driven maniacs.
@@jeremiahjohnson7515 That's not quite it. It's a hero complex. Some people deserve to be killed. And these cops convince themselves that they're doing good. It's not always bad to have a desire to kill. I certainly did while I was in the Army. Despite this, I NEVER would have killed anyone unless the situation was called for.
That man who said he doesn't think the police are out there lighting people up.
Is so blind he need a guide dog and he is the reason why things don't change.
So the good “ ol’ boy network” should be renamed bad ol’ boy network!
This is why we give them the new title "Gangs with a badge"
It holds more weight in context within modernity.
I will NEVER visit that state again. Shame cause it is a beautiful place.
I will spread this report around as far as possible.
This is some good journalism
Jesus, I’m never going to Phoenix!!
This was a great piece and I hope it continues to have a positive impact.
Wow, that lawyer is corrupt as could be.
Thank you for this video.
Dave you just made a new fan. Great reporting!
Amazing reporting. There is no excuse for coving for these actions.
This is the interview that did it for me, I was rooting for this Chief. But this was a triple gut punch for me. I'm glad she got the heck out of Dodge. Dave put his foot on their necks and still hasn't let up to this day! Pulitzer Prize winner work!!!!
forget the list we need accountability for every police officer or law enforcement officers in the state of Arizona and hold them accountable by sending them to jail
Some of the best investigative reporting ive seen. Cops are trained to lie frame entrap and are completely out of control. The 10% of good ones that are left need to help clean out the force.
Keep up the good work, good reporting
Very, very good reporting!!!
Until the police CHIEFS are held *professionally* accountable for updating the Brady List, they have no reason to comply.
Until the police UNIONS are held *financially* accountable for keeping bad officers on the force, they have no reason to NOT keep bad officers employed (because that bad officer is still a dues-paying member - money for the union accounts).
Thanks 🙏 for your reporting. I’m scared to comment on this…I can’t imagine how you deal with reporting! This is an extremely important topic. Please know you are so essential and matter in a corrupt situation. Corrupt officials are in all organizations not just the police who cry “victim”.
Just more evidence that law enforcement should be a minimum wage job because no amount of money or training can ever FIX THIS KIND OF STUPIDITY in law enforcement
These are not just errors or misconduct in the sense that they violated department policy. They did violate department policy, but they’ve also, in many cases, committed a violent crime against a citizen of their community who they were supposed to be protecting, and serving. They should be fired, prosecuted, and never again allowed to be in law enforcement anywhere in the country! I believe that a zero tolerance approach to this would not only improve police relations in the community, but it would inspire a higher quality of applicants to law enforcement. These interactions are life-changing for the victims, and should be dealt with harshly, especially because of the authority they’ve abused as police officers!
This is disgusting. How can you ask the public to have any faith in law enforcement?
Is the Brady list available to the public? I live in NC, and it didn't look like it's available to the public.
I just found out that police body cam footage in NC is also not available to us either. Even with a FOIA request.
Great job with this investigation.
Wow wow wow!!! Well done! Well done for such a pitiful subject
Well done for reporting this respect from Ireland
Keep doing what you’re doing! Empower the citizens to push to change legislation!!
Police departments should never be allowed to investigate themselves.
Brady list must be public accessible to the public so employers and citizens knows who theyr dealing with!!!!!
Grazie un grande servizio di giornalismo.
I believe the real problem is the county attorneys office, they have no accountable,until thats fixed trust will contiue to disapate
Good reporting as usual. Do the right thing be honest and cops have nothing to worry about. Will never happen.
It’s not just a liars list, it’s a list of violent offenders! Abuse of force is a violent offense!! It’s simple assault at a minimum.
Not many things lower than a dirty cop or prosecutor, or judge.
The JOB of being a police officer is the only JOB where the WORKERS tell the managers (elected officials) how to manage them.
Please keep this up assign investigation in every state
That was great reporting
This is how law enforcement operate in the country where its citizens brag about their freedom.
@LouLou66 to be fair only certain citizens brag about Freedom and Liberty.
😂
As stated before. Nurses, doctors, teachers & more are accountable to the state board for disciplinary actions taken against an individual who has breached the code of ethics prescribed by the code of conduct for their profession. These disciplinary actions are part of a professional’s licensing renewal or to be used to suspend that person’s license to practice. Why is this not a mandatory practice for, of all things, policing in each 50 states of America. The Brady list should be pubic accessible & used to keep undesirable cops from hopping from one police department to another. With the hiring in a given profession accountability is paramount.
I have an experiment... now police officers have right too...so this would have to be done under a terms of employment exemption...Stop and search 1000 cops and their vehicles randomly and without warning and see how many "back up" guns are found and how many are not registered and untraceable. Perfect for planting.
Told y'all so
OMG! WARNING RANT.
Firstly to be a police officer you MUST be held to a higher accountability, otherwise you are no better than a murder on the streets, this includes reacting to people who will press your buttons your training should have taught you that. Secondly if you are worried about body cams what are you hiding.
The fact that an officer can be fired in one state and become a police officer in another leaves me speechless. ALL police officers should have a nationwide standard of training. And each investigation into a officers conduct should be handled by a outside organisation. The database or Brady's list should be mandatory and nationwide.
I just cannot believe how they act like the wild west without consequences
I live 2000 miles from Arizona and have never even been there, but Dave Biscobing may be my favorite reporter on the air today. Ill watch anything that guy investigates
what's the issue here, if you lie on a report you broke the law, if you beat up a person you broke the law, if you beat some one who is handcuffed you broke the law, if you sexually assault some one (rape) you broke the law. Why is it that I can go into the records of a doctor, pharmacist, politician, and a whole host of other professions, but some how cops are immune to scrutiny? Treat cops like citizens are treated, you break the law, you are put on trial, either you are guilty or not, i dont see a issue here.
so whats the difference then, of this kind of list and people being blackballed from renting an apartment for a DUI, for evictions... ?? all are public record, why isnt this?
This is one hell of a report and big step forward ABC15 done on this.
The union leader hit the nail right on the head liar list bad cop list
That's why I'll never retire to Arizona
No accountability creates lawless officers.
Only a truly incompetent prosecutor HAS a “default position” about any witness, police included. Especially police. You’ve already instilled institutional bias into your own judgment of every case. And that makes you supremely shitty at your job and someone who fundamentally misunderstands your role in the criminal justice system. I don’t say this lightly. I was a federal prosecutor for over a decade. I’ve walked more than a few miles in those shoes but was smart enough to know you never blindly trust anyone based on their position. It’s lazy, it’s wrong and ultimately is a losing strategy-in cases and in life.
Yay Dave! Thank you!
They forget who they work for. Who pays their wages. Out the truth.
It's a bully Culture and Mentality.
The Brady list needs to be country wide and reporting needs to be mandatory within 1 month .
This is the kind of media work that the 5th Estate should be doing. It shows a real problem and discusses the many things that should be done. An informed society is important. I honestly believe that people will respond to this kind of reporting with loyalty and respect. It is something hard to earn.
“That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer, is a Maxim that has been long and generally approved.” - said no Prosecuting Attorney, ever.
And shouldn't aspiring police officers be given a psychological evaluation to see are they fit to serve, and thereafter when involved in misconduct be required to attend psychological therapy to judge whether they are fit to return to protect and serve the community residents whom they are abusing.
These guys are armed and command vast authority.... they need to be transparent and trusted. On the reverse side, we ask a lot of officers. It might be good to specialize in what officers do, and it possible that the changes might welcome.
well all i can say is if i find myself in a wrong full position with az police, I will have my attorney check for names on this list and use it.
the real problem is that our court started allow police officer to lie during interview "interrogations" so if they think they can lie, then they can lie any time, remember all they need is a high school diploma to be cops , so if you allow a high schooler to do something they think they can apply it to everything, I believe that a cop can lie when they have reasonable anticable suspicion of a "real crime" not a traffic violation, but not un till then, also I think it should be mandatory " federally" for police to tell you why they stop you when doing a traffic stop, the reason for this is because 2 thing will happen, 1 they bad guy will try to get away giving the officer the legality to arrest or detain the person, 2 the not guilty person wont have to be hurt by cop that don't want to give an answer about the stop, and I think supervisor should be mandatory to show if requested by civilian and they need to get at least 2 years of constitutional law under their belt to be able to be supervisor, if I don't have the right to know why I got stop by my employ, I should have the right not to pay taxes to cover that employ salary. we pay them we have the right to know everything about their job. and I think all the cops that are in the list should be moved to desk duty for 2 year then they can go back with matching salary for the job, will make them think twice about not telling the truth again
askin a former cop wether cops should be held accountable is like asking a s**xofender if there should be a Soffender registry
No More Immunity for criminal cops
It would be great to know if anything has improved since this reporting. I hope so.
We the people should DEMAND no more civil assest forfeiture, strip qualified immunity from cops, and strip absolutely immunity from prosecuters.
As voters WE SHOULD STOP ELECTING LAWYERS WHO IN TURN MAKE MORE LAWS THAT THE JACKBOOTS "HAVE" TO ENFORCE.
His default position is to always believe the police.
Dose that guy know we can hear him these cops are full of shi$ if they have nothing to hide just tell the TRUTH THAT IS WHAT THEY TELL RIGHT 😡😡😡😡
Man, there isn’t much Dave missed. I’m proud of him!
If officers aren’t saying “ I just want to do this and I just want to do that “ then why are you planting evidence or lying about something that never happened?
Thank you
That ex-cops gotta go he’s undeserving of that name! ! ! ! ! ! ! POLICE THE POLICE! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
End qualified immunity Now
"Power does not corrupt. Fear corrupts...perhaps the fear of a loss of power." Author John Steinbeck. Defund their ability to deny justice. Provide a fund to support the delivery of justice. An Oath is, as a person of faith would believe, a formal calling to God as witness to one's solemn truth that one sincerely intends to do what one says! For those of no faith, the Oath sworn would therefore be a solemn attestation of the truth or inviolability of one's word! Well now what part of the Oath they swore to, they do not wish to understand or can't remember?
the federal legislature needs to step in and pass federal laws criminalizing the behavior of not just the phoenix police but every police department country wide so that these criminals with badges get charged with felonies, prosecuted and sued.
No, that actually a bad idea. However, the FBI needs to investigate.
Why are excuses always made for bad cops, like a favored spoiled child?
Guess what was the point of it being set up they never intended to follow it anyway
The group involve in creating this story should go from town to town and either find more criminals or find some of those good apples and do a similar story as an example of how to do it right
Sadly nothing will change and that’s a Full Disclosure !!!
End qualified immunity
now who is getting locked up mostly children that make dumb mistakes and live to regret and they have to pay the full price with no mercy because the public where told want's them to be tough on crime only when it's a reg person and not the police or other officers shame is what it is hiding the truth that no one is perfect but the poor pay the bill