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Marc Lamont Hill and Greg Foreman Have Heated Debate Over CRT
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- Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2021
- For many Republican candidates on Election Day, critical race theory served as a useful scapegoat.
A recent USA Today poll shows how divided parents are when it comes to teaching about race. When asked about teaching of the ongoing effects of slavery and racism, Black parents supported the idea with 82%, while white parents’ support was at little over 50%.
Conservative political commentator Greg Foreman joins Marc Lamont Hill on “Black News Tonight” to discuss the dilemma of teaching kids about racism.
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Just teach history, it's really that simple. There is no theory behind it. Facts are facts, especially if the events have already occurred. People will form their own opinions based on their personal experiences, parentage, environment, and socio-economic status.
Yes you so right. And tell the old democratic are the new republicans
@Longhorn yeah it should be told but also you need to learning it was both Southern Dems and Repubs that were racist!
People write history, and it's usually written by the victors from their perspective.
@@arontotheleft Well we know that history isn't correct so it can change because its a LIE!
@@moe6548 🤪🤪
He should have started by asking the question: "Is there such a thing as too early to lie to children about racism?"
He should have started by having someone who is intellectually capable to have this conversation.
@@KCal1213 Marc Lamont Hill is ignorantly intelligent!
Another grifter dragged through the mud
@@greatone275 it is just sad.
What you know about anything could be written on the back of a postage stamp! 🤡
Is this the same clown that said men can have babies in the interview with Candace Owens? Greg Forman is on point.
Great point. Marc Hill is an idiot
Yeah that’s him
On point with what exactly?
Just wanted you guys to know that no amount of yes massir boss man cooning you do for these people will keep you out of the trees. Not only that but your proximity to them and general submissiveness guarantees that you'll go first before any of us, and in complete ignorance.
Marc Lamont Hill is so disingenuous. Makes sense BNN went out of business.
JUST TEACH THE TRUTH ABOUT AMERICAN HISTORY...ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY!!
What's American history
@@davionhillard7379 things that have happened in America! is this a real question?
@Longhorn yup and Joe bidens racist anti black history should be exposed too.
History is not CRT
Facts !!
Here is my response to this debate with answers to all of Marc's questions: ruclips.net/video/iHyyIZptavc/видео.html
You did a good job
Go on his show
Greg, you made some good points. No way I view this as an “L”, Marc just challenged you on your position, and treated you fairly well. He also gave you some solid advice by saying just because you couldn’t give specific examples to strengthen your argument, didn’t mean that what you were asserting wasn’t true….just refrain from making a point if you can’t back it with specific and accurate examples. He also said you were a good brother and he would love to have you back.
Like Marc who is teaching this? And what black leaders are pushing such BS? This began when those flags we're taking down. History wasn't meant too feel comfortable it's for us to learn from the pass and try not too repeat our wrong.
They would still be in business if they had you as an anchor dude
Which cultures did not have slaves ??
Greeks had slaves
Arabs had both white and black slaves
Turks has white slaves and harem
Romans had white slaves
African had other African slaves.
Native American had slaves from other native american Tribes
Yes Greg!💖💚 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
History and civics are classes in school.
As a white guy that grew up (K-12) In Macon Ga there was no CRT but yet I realized during a normally history lesson in like middle school probably before, that slavery was horrific.
Yeah and we still have people who deny the reality of racism. The point is to teach kids how things are and have them be aware of their own contribution to the situation and hopefully build a world less racist.
"A people without knowledge of their past is like a tree without roots"
-Marcus Garvey
Jamaican with no familial connection to US slavery or Jim Crow.
The people made worse off by slavery were those who were enslaved. Their descendants would have been worse off today if born in Africa instead of America. Put differently, the terrible fate of their ancestors benefitted them. Thomas Sowell
@@fredwilliams6047 Every mass immigration to America as the result of a Back Home tragedy: war, famine, religious persecution or population "cleansing."
@@fredwilliams6047 that statement from Thomas Sowell isn't accurate at all. There are a lot of black people in Africa who are better off than some in America. America may be a 1st world nation, but are all blacks living the American dream and are they all wealthy like some people in Africa? That argument that the terrible faith that black Americans ancestors met benefited them is not a 100% true. African nations arent some uncivilized place where no one can make it big and there is no guaratee that they all would have been worse off
There's a huge difference between knowledge of your past and teaching victimhood.
My "white" parents never taught me about racism. The schools didn't either. I didn't understand anything about it until i was an adult, it just looked like some ridiculous idea that i couldn't imagine people taking seriously.
So the civil war didn’t teach you anything? You weren’t awake
@@Kelly-mi1yz i slept through a war? if any time were convenient for a coma...
What was the what ridiculous idea you talking about
Greg Foreman is cool! I watch his videos all the time.
Yes white people love him
Greg Foreman hits with facts. As a Black Conservative for decades and a Military vet, I drop kicked Black Liberals and thier Intellectual Ignorance to the sewer with joy. I enjoy humiliating such clueless people by destroying thier false narratives.
"cool" is NOT what I would call him.
@@bryanhunnicutt7811 That's because you're a Liberal
No, it's because it's the truth..
He came on this show with straight talking points. Most people who do that are easily disbanded once you pull one layer of a conversation back.
He came on the show not knowing shit and got mad cuz he was called on it. CRT is taught in graduate schools only. If you teach the real history of this country you have to teach the about what the europeans did to Africans and native americans and not sugar coat it cuz lil tommy gone cry cause his racist ancestors were evil. no one cares about the victims of racism in this country but ppl suppose to care about the perpetrators of evil gtfoh with that bs
@Longhorn He made claims that he couldn’t back up in that moment. He gave examples with alternative outcomes that Marc had context to. If the network called him a few hours before the show and told him he was coming on then that’s unprofessional. Nevertheless, all he was giving was talking points and when he was asked for examples of what he was presenting, he couldn’t. That’s on him.
@@SuperTruthful Ur insane if you believe that. Right, all of these parents r this concerned and this upset over something that isn’t even happening? Please...how gullible are you to even think that and the guest here I’ve seen before and he’s very knowledgeable and articulate at what’s truly going on...while the host obviously didn’t want a conversation about anything real, and he didn’t tell the whole story about the professor and the grading, which he purposely left out the fact that that professor sued the college, UCLA, because they suspended him for NOT being more lenient on the black students grades.
@@derrionarrington He readily admitted more than once that he did a bad job, which I don’t think he did. His example was off, to a point, but if this host had any integrity and wanted to b honest about things , he would’ve at least filled in the important parts of that story about the professor grading students, which he purposely left out. He told us the school, UCLA, and that was it and he KNEW that the professor actually sued UCLA because they suspended him for NOT being lenient on the black students grading. Typical of this sort of media though.
@@GWade1217 I agree with you to some degree but if he wasn’t sure about the context of the story, he just shouldn’t have made that point. Especially dealing with someone who is looking for a “gotcha” moment.
If BNN had more commentators like Greg, they would still be in business.
Burn😅😅😅
🙏🏿😂
@HELLUR 💯💯
You can't even answer the freaking question
If BNN had people blike Greg they would be sued.
Marc loves this racial complex. He lusts over it so badly. You can make all the sense in the world and he will twist your words - accuse you of something that you didn’t say- talk over you- interrupt- argue to take away from all the facts and positivity Greg shared on the topic of CRT.
Marc loves crying and feeling whimpy
Please provide the set of facts from the guest?
Clearly you are a Trump troll.
They should just let people be friends and not even bring up race or racism. That is where new racism starts
Smdh, a mind is a terrible thing to waste! To have a black person say racism isn't relevant or should be talked about by black people now! We are living amongst Wheat and Tares species! Smdh🤦🏾♀🙎🏾♀
Because it isn't ,stop crying n acting like a victim
@@arkhamknight6371, white folks tell their history right, black people are Amerikkkan history
jesus christ, I swear people like you are determined to believe racism is still relevant in 2021. America has gotten less and less racist over the past 50 years and continues to improve but for some reason so many black people today want to act like nothing at all has improved or changed in this country. Just like Thomas sowell said, Racism isn't dead but its on life support.
@@Joshua52391 , of course, you would say that, cause it doesn't affect you, you are the doer, you should not talk about things that you have never experienced.
@@ericclarke68The doer of what? of racism? for saying racism isn't relevant anymore? lol you sound dumb to me. Theres literally millions of blacks in this country just going about their lives not even giving racism a thought because it has so little impact in our country , despite the fact the media just can't stop talking about "racism". As a half breed i can tell you i have experienced ignorant/hateful racist comments from both black and white people throughout my life but nothing beyond that because again, racism just isn't that big of a deal anymore even though you want it to be. I understand there's still individual racist idiots in this country but they have no power. So what terrible racism have you expericened?
How can you talk about the Civil War WITHOUT speaking about race, when each and every southern state's declaration of secession cited slavery as the main reason for that secession?
Thank you. That's the reason the South broke away the North to form their country to hopelessly cling to their former way life which is chattel slavery.
History is not CRT
@@IamGettis No, history is history. And there are parts of American history that are completely racist.
@@BigBlackRod that has nothing to do with critical race theory. Critical race theory is a lens to view all things through race. And history is not the same as a racial lens. It does not have anything to do with history all though you can use the lens to explain parts of history.
@@andrewforte3852 They had that right and the US overstepped. Their should be 2 countries in the US. IF WE REALLY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT SLAVERY, WHY ARE WE NOT IN KILL MODE OVER 40% OF AFRICA?
Nice job Greg. This host is disingenuous.
Marc Lamont Hill reminds me of the Socialist Workers Party UK, always interrupting, never listening, continually pushing a dogma.
I think gregs whole point is we need to stop looking into the past and start looking to the future
Amen
You have to learn about the past so you can understand the present and then improve it
@@vinnidavinci3932 it's a difference in learning the past and still wanna stay there. Acknowledge it happens and let's take the steps to move forward
@@Atlantasince82 Unfortunately you got a lot of people in the right wing who do not want the past to be studied and if it is studied they want it to be white washed.
@@vinnidavinci3932 I'm not right nor left. One side wanna white wash it, the other want black people to remain a victim.
CRT is taught in graduate school. Teaching the history of this country will definitely show that systematic racism exists since the inception of this country.
@Longhorn I see you in the long line of right wing fools
@Longhorn any attempts to destroy this clusterfuck were set in motion when millions of deplorables, I have little doubt you are one, voted for a singular unfit fool to realize their white grievance sentiments.
Person, woman, man, camera, tv!
@Longhorn coming from a bonafide fool who incorrectly says that CRT is being pushed in K-12, education and is not man (or woman) enough to admit their mistake matters less than you could ever know.
@Longhorn LOLOLOL. Your news sources are undoubtedly the truth, the light and the way. Of that I am sure. Keep driving 100 mph down a one way street!!!!
@Longhorn assuming I were, desperate for attention, what sense would it make to seek it from a moron????
Any desperation on my part is merely an attempt, albeit misguided and a waste of time, to inform your ignant azz.
Foreman is the man, calm, intelligent, sticks to his guns
If you consider Greg to be intelligent that’s very concerning.
@@gillmsnfillman1691 I appreciate your concern!
@@gillmsnfillman1691 Not surprising.
@@gillmsnfillman1691sure, be concerned cause he definitely is more intellectual than you!
Greg Foreman is correct
lol no he’s not
@@midwestthebest3967 Damn right he is.
@@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 what’s he right about elaborate 🤔
@@midwestthebest3967 What's he wrong about, elebaorate.
The Brother has his own mind. Unlike this DRONE he's debating with. Case closed.
@@Black_Patriot-Veteran-1970 I ask you once again what is he right about let’s not try to deflect I asked u a direct question
Shouldn't be surprised at the tactics of the media. Only reason why I watched this is because I saw that Mr. Foreman was on it. In spite of what Hill tried to do, Mr. Foreman handled himself very well. Continue to STAND Mr. Foreman. There are an enormous amount of black people who have educated themselves that agree with you.
Wow, Greg says black people should stop looking at race all the time and more focus on other things, to take an honest look in the mirror to try to overcome black underachievement. Very refreshing.
If there is no such thing as race, then why would there be such a thing as a gender?
Why focus on the male and female of things?
Let's all pretend to be exactly the same.
No races, no genders. Let's see where that gets us.
Greg Forman is spot on
About what? His audience is 99% white
@@AndreKing4 please tell me how you know that? Is there data showing his viewers race? I never took any sort of survey but I can assume you're just a race hustler who says these things to anyone you dont like. Its obvious now the play book of the left and what they constantly use.
Spot on...what? Crack?
I have a healthy respect for Gregs' position on politics, & this is what crt boils down to. This is now Sept. 2022, & I've seen many videos of school board meetings over the teaching of not just crt, but trans issues. Black moms have given the boards hell for taking their kids back to segregation, & I applaud their determination to not "go with the flow". Politicians doing a bang up job of dividing us, with help from mainstream media. Let's show them something in return: Solidarity.
Lamont has a bad habit of parsing the definition of words, so the definition fits his narrative.
"Depends what the definition of 'is', is" Probably saw too many Bill Clinton trials.
Solidarity in what way?
How exactly do you want the history of this country to be taught?
If, for example, I was a history or civics teacher of a child of yours and made the statement, “This county was founded on white supremacy and white identity politics”, would that piss you off?
@@eholden6510 Yes, as it would be *WRONG* . It ignores the freedom of religion tribalism aspect.
It ignores the class structure of Nobility, Gentry, Courtiers, Peasants, which immigrants had lived in.
It ignores how the Peasant class had also been been exposed to potential capture to be taken to Africa and enslaved. Estimated at 1.5 Million had been captured! (Compared to 400,000 black slaves taken to what is now U.S.A.)
It ignores much, much, more, compared to what you are willing to read.
If you were a history or civics teacher who narrowed the U.S. foundation on such a simple statement, I would be in the front of the line trying to get you fired! Not because of promoting the idea of "White Supremacy", but rather because you obviously lack the proper credentials to properly teach such a class.
@@TheDennisgrass Where in that statement did I say white supremacy and white identity politics were the ONLY thing this country was founded on?
Jesus Christ you’re a snowflake. You can’t mention white supremacy at all to you people when referencing the history of this country without you p*ss**s melting down.
Like a snowflake lmao
@@TheDennisgrass oh and btw..
There wasn’t a reverse African slave trade where European settlers in America were being enslaved in Africa to say nothing of your delusional 1.5 million number.
You’re a crackpot lol
Let this dude prepare and then let him back on.
Lol I hope he does that. I promise you it won't go any different because he won't be able to show proof. Like someone said on here the believe me argument won't work outside their bubble.
@@dupp2424 i could name many examples. but it's just like greg said, you can keep ignoring these diversity and equity initiatives that hold black people to a lower standard or you can continue losing elections because people don't want to see that.
Yeah he would. Dupp is a dipshit showing his ass. Keep the pressure up.
Let's go Brandon.
Why would he need to prepare? If he's so against CRT. He should know certain things off the dome. If I have a strong opinion on something I'm able to discuss it in depth anytime anywhere. Otherwise I'll just say I don't know enough to offer a valid opinion. Too easy.
That guy is an example of the “dumb” people who need help. Social media allows any idiot with a internet plan, and a smartphone to pretend to be anything they believe.
Gregory is not a debater. Marc comes from Cable news CNN. Guys like Marc and Roland Martin look for Conservative blacks to try to brow beat them, not learn from them. Seeing Roland Martin trash King Randall was disgraceful. Randall has a school where he teaches troubled youths skills useful for life. Roland Martin was mad because Randall wouldn't pledge allegiance to the Democratics.
True.
There's even less to learn from black conservatives than black Dems. I say this with all serioisness: for most black people, conservatism is a rebellious phase or a grift. Black Americans are familiar with parts of black history that many white people frankly are not - think of how many people had to learn about the Tulsa massacre or even the prevalence of race riots in general from.a comic book show. We understand thay conservatives are lying when they claim to care about freedom, economic justice, racial equality, etc. We understand that not only academically but because we live on the business end of conservative policy. So when we see black conservatives it's hard to take them seriously. They don't have anything to teach us. They have their beliefs because of things they never learned or things they pretend to have forgotten. This goes double when so many black conservatives are just mimicking white conservatives. There's not a single unique thought in their head.
And to put the target on myself, I'm saying this as a black person who was previously fairly moderate. I used to read not just "both sides" but as many sides as possible in good faith (I can talk Nocik, Charles Mills and Marx, or orthodox constitutional analysis vs. analyzes based on Charles Beard, for example), but when you do that, you quickly learn some positions just don't have anything to offer anyone. Conservatism is one of them, and black conservatives are just conservatives who should know better. I don't like MLH either, so don't smear me with that.
Roland didn't trash King Randall, King lied about his purpose for doing an interview with Roland. The next day, Roland came with receipts. You can't learn from lies and that's what black Republicans push, lies
@@karenwhite4453 lol black Republicans...from what I know we say take responsibility for yourself and stop looking for government to pick you up. We all know what happened in our past, now what? Democrats have no answers, they use black people every few years and then immediately forget the promises they made. Bet you voted for Biden and what has he done? Where's BLM?
"Teach racism". That's EXACTLY what you are doing.
Children don't know ANYTHING you don't teach them.
I'm an African watching this and am amazed that Americans would be so swift to deny that racism exists or that it was enforced in the US the way it was. In Africa, we continue to deeply feel the effects of racism and colinialism and it woukd be bizarre if someone told us not to teach that the Belgians chopped off people's hands when they couldn't harvest enough rubber for King Leopold of Belgium, just because it would "offend" some people. You cannot deny history because doing so only makes you possible to repeat the same mistakes
I am African too, but Nigeria’s problem is not white supremacy, it is Nigeria, concerning corruption.
It's not about denying it!!! NO ONE in America denies that slavery was bad lol! The difference is the OBSESSION over racism in school and in the current culture. They are teaching kids from kindergarten that they are bad and evil if they are whyte and if you are black you are an oppressed person and you are just a King and Queen being held back by the whyte man. It's INSANE!!!
America dealt with its past and made the most AMAZING STRIDES towards equality than any other nation on earth! It's the reason why so many immigrants flood our borders! Because here you are treated as a free human and given every opportunity as others. But the woke left people are LITERALLY obsessed with discussing racism every single day and every single moment. For God's sake they are teaching that MATH IS RACIST!!!!
Also please explain how you are "deeply" feeling the effects of colonialism? Because from a FACTUAL perspective, the nation's doing the BEST in Africa were the colonized ones. And the problems happening right now have NOTHING to do with whyte people. At all. It has to do with Islam extremism, gang violence, tribal violence, political corruption, etc. And the more time you spend pointing the finger at some dead Europeans LONG GONE, the more you waste your time and energy.
@@SquirtlePower809 If a father violates his daughter and dies after, does the trauma disappear because he’s gone?
Nevermind the fact that they’re(white ppl) not gone anyway
@@SquirtlePower809 They would be doing much better if the colonizers were never there. Who do you think is currently manipulating(stealing) the resources by assassinating legitimate leaders and installing puppet governments, amongst the many issues you listed?
When did it stop being the parents job to talk about privilege 😒 when you send your child to school... I was assuming it was to get an education that will allow him the ability to succeed in the world without the thought frame of race.
It is. They don’t like it though
Stop assuming
Embarrassing. This guy needs to read and know his facts. Grifter!
Stop the victimhood.
Agreed Marc hill is a grifter
Greg Foreman is a great man...MLH is not. Greg was great to call him out for pretending that he doesn't know what equity is. What a clown MLH is.
And then Bro....why you have to talk over loud of Greg...give him respect.
How can anyone take Hill seriously. Foreman is so much smarter too.
You must be a dumbass
Smarter, and he doesn't want cheese, for his whine.
He's smart to stupid people.
So what does he think about slaveowners being compensated when they lost their slaves? Isn't that taking from one race and giving to another race?
Exactly
So what race was taken from and what was taken from them when the slave-owners were compensated?
@@leonardu6094 Firstly, the fact that slaves had their lives, rights and freedoms taken from them(pretty fckin obvious) ...secondly, by compensating slaveowners who had already been compensated (with free fckin labor) and not compensating one race at all (slaves) even your degenerate brain can see how one race unequivocally benefitted from slavery and the other race got nothing
@@earnestlewis1217 LOL you're so hotheaded and imbecilic that you failed to actually read and understand my question and how it relates to yours. You said slaveowners being compensated was an example of taking from one race and giving it to another. But this is false, nothing that was actually given to the slaveowners as compensation was taken from the slaves themselves. I'm not referring to slavery itself.
So you agree that slavery was wrong...howvis compensating slaveowners righting that wrong?
Calling CRT, "Lessons on the history of racism..." Is like calling Ted Bundy, a "Bad Date."
@The Great Interpreter What is your definition of CRT?
@@jammiegolson7171
She doesn't know.
C. Caucasians
R. Repressing
T. Truth
@@davidmilton5887 Hopefully you are not correct. Sadly, you most likely are correct.
@@davidmilton5887 fact
@@jammiegolson7171 its not about the definition, its the subliminal reprogramming of children to view everything through the lens of race today so as to continue the divide allowing the elites to continue to live like kings off our money and votes.
Gregg Foreman is so brilliant and logical. I can’t stop listening to this guy. He is becoming my favorite RUclipsr
Yeah nothing like a raccoon who seeks love from you people😀
@@blackbrother4827 are you referring to Asians as “you people” because that’s what I am. You remind of that racist loser Tiffany Cross calling Mike McDaniels a white supremist(he is mixed race) and racist against that black man Tua tagovailoa(he’s not he is Samoan). I was a democrat drinking the cool aid too till I found out the democrats were the ones that enslaved blacks passed the Jim Crow laws threw my people in concentration camps etc.. many POC are waking up to the racist democrat policies misinformation and straight up lies on MSM
Those were the Dixiecrats which is the new Republican Party. Nice try😀
@@blackbrother4827 that’s more of the democrats lies trying to hide the truth…name all the senators and reps that went from racist Dems to republicans. If what you say is true then the 20 senators in the south went from 20 democrat senators and most switched to republican? Can you name then the 15 plus democratic senators that switch to republican? Thats not even counting the house of representatives. I saw as a child the separate water fountains in the south they were all democrats. As the south became less racist they became republicans not what you say. You been drinking the cool aid of lies and misinformation
@@paulkmaster3231 why don't you name them
He reached out to Greg last minute precisely so that Greg wouldn't be prepared, but Greg still held his ground in my opinion. You can see additional commentary on this discussion on Greg's channel: ruclips.net/video/iHyyIZptavc/видео.html
You gotta be kidding 😳..last minute??
So he wouldn't be prepared??
He talks about this shit everyday lmao so sorry he didn’t have 7 days to prepare
This guy was not ready to have this conversation all he knows is what he heard on Fox News. And got his self embarrassed😂😂😂
@Longhorn Mmmmmm why "respond" on his own channel? He was right there. He had EVERY Opportunity to respond. Or maybe he should have been better "prepare" when he goes on an interview. 😐
@Longhorn Mmmmmm not interesting to hear conservative talking points that shows he has not idea what he's talking about. Especially when it comes to CRT. Like many conservatives.
Marc lit him up 😅😂🤣😆
Mark kept interrupting him. Mark is an idiot. You need to watch Greg Foreman's channel for common sense and truth. BLACK CONSERVATIVE PERSPECTIVE.👍
@@caminokid2656 Yo boy got smoked. That's clear. Towards the end he was scrambling and stumbled over his own talking points. Got facts wrong and used the excuse he was just "talking off the top of my head?" At best he just wasn't prepared, he could have done a lot better if he was. If he had at least brought actual real examples to back up his accusations. At worst he just doesn't have a clue. That's the thing with some so-called black conservatives, they develop their talking points to a mainly white audience who pat them on the back and applaud at any and everything they say, especially about black people and the black community. Then when they get challenged they stumble all over themselves. An I say that as a black man and conservative myself.
People are not black and white. We are all different shades of the same color. There is one race: The Human Race
In other news Marc also thinks a man can have a baby 🤣
Lamont knows full well at this point that when people talk about CRT they don't mean a law class given by Crenshaw at Harvard 20 years ago. They mean Wokeish doctrines proposed by people like Kendi and Dangelo. He knows this, but plays dumb. This guest isn't quite up to Lamont's standards and Marc is playing with him in a way he couldn't with, say, John McWhorter.
Exactly. This guest had right ideas but should have been better prepared for this interview knowing that he would be grilled by Marc.
He is actually well prepared, but Marc, like most liberals, just constantly using mental gymnastics and word gymnastics just to try and bring doubt to the viewers.
Agreed. Against heavyweights like Glen or John, Marc would have a lot less room to criticize.
@@msi8311 They'd see any traps coming a mile away, and Lamont would be much more respectful with them.
@@dayaaron87 word gymnastics? Really? Words matter. The Republican right knows this and, thus, authored this confusion by conflating "CRT" with any discussion about race to further divide people and give some white people cover to protect their white cultural fragility.
Let's see: my grandfather who lived in Charleston in the 20s told me about the way they were treated and how whites talked to them ,never mind how they were treated . I was born before the civil Rights act was signed ,I remember listening to the first clay Liston fight with my father . I remember whites only signs on bathrooms that hadn't been taken down as well as colored on a water fountain .so much I can say ,but what I can't say is I learned about the effects of slavery in school . I learned this at home . optimistically we number around fifty million in a country of over 330 million,and for the majority of this time we've been here we have been labeled as undesirables at best . And made to feel that way !"" So for him to say we are trying to make white people feel bad about themselves and their ancestry is ,to be kind" ASS BACKWARDS!"". To tell the truth about our part of this history in America somehow hurts people's feelings ?""as for this young brother ,all I can say about him ," Here stands a gold card member of that sunken place where". WE SICK BOSS ?"" NEVER GOES OUT OF STYLE!"""
You're the true sellout. People like you only want to talk about us at our worst but NEVER want to discuss our many accomplishments. Wtf does dwelling on slavery have to do with growth now? All this does is make us hate whites and only whites and we ignore the suffering of other races. Italians were treated like shit, Asians, Jews and everyone else has had their time in history. Stop crying and appreciate what our ancestors went through so we can be here today. I hate crybabies
Are you saying racism doesn't exist today?
@Longhorn The only way you demonize any race of people is if you forget your human !" No one should be afraid of history . To say you can't teach the truth because some people may feel like you're singling out a particular race is at best disingenuous and at worst an attempt to fabricate an alternative history !" No matter how inflammatory rhetoric maybe from some the truth is we are all removed from those days and times !" But here's another question ,how do you teach about the history of "OUR " country to indigenous or African Americans and not include the things that affected us the most ?" That's not possible !" In fact the only people you could really teach that to would be white people !" If a little uncomfortable conversations have you questioning how people view you ,just imagine what we've had to endure when we were told and shown how people viewed us for centuries !""
@@mycitysucks8096 You totally miss the point by how you approach the subject . We still experience the residual mindset of those who treated us as less than !" Individually you should strive to be the best that you can be . But denying racism when confronted by it is absurd !" That is the mind of a stay in your place brother !" Must your teenage son be painted as the aggressor and his murder justified by a man who followed him with a gun for you to understand racism ?" Or your mother ,sister or other lived one be gunned down in their own home by people who are so indifferent they didn't even attempt to find out if they had accurate information before they put their lives at risk ?" We are not advocating for a particular race to be demonized ,we are advocating for us to be treated as humans first and American citizens second regardless of our complexion !" All people are not the same ,Evil is represented robustly in all racial groups , religions and cultures !" It's a deviant personality traits found along every human family line !" But when people in power who have control over your lives are apathetic to the evil people who make you suffer because of a petty thing like complexion ,you need to remind them ,confront them and expose them !" We have made inroads thru the decades only " BECAUSE " of those who sacrificed getting along and staying in your place !" The life you live " if black " was improved by those who called out racism !" And if all white people were evil we would never have been freed !" We would never have them in solidarity with our struggles !" We have always had Allie's thru out our time in this country who were "White !" Thank God for that !""
@Longhorn who ever you choose to be is not the problem ,it's those who don't give a dam and hate you simply because you look different !" And to be clear ,it's not "I" who invented racial groupings ,who tell you to identify your racial affiliation ,who characterize you on site in every part of society !" If you don't know who that is I feel sorry for you !"" Whether you like it or not in everything you do race is a part of the way we all are identified !" Personally I'm just human first and American second but that's not what my individual profile says !" Your old enough to know better than that !""
Greg Foreman is correct.
He makes a good point. You would probably get further teaching children reading, writing, and math. Maybe there is too much emphasis on history education. If you make sure people know how to read, they can read history books themselves.
Dumbazz , use your head if you have one. He is keeping you down telling you that you cant achieve anything cause of your race. And all for his personal clout. WAKE UP
Or, you know, you can teach them how to read and the history of the country at the same time? You know, like how the rest of the civilised world does? Why are some conservatives so afraid of an educated mass?
“Yes, I got some of the details wrong.” Bless Marc Lamont Hill and his never ending patience in the face of ignorance.
Except he is the face of racism. Black news? Really? Lol. Everything is about race to him. Even the news.
Patience in the face of ignorance…. No. His whole game is not to present a convincing case for his point of view, but to prevent his guest from being able to. He is well trained and highly skilled at using debate techniques and language manipulation. He uses many of the same tricks and strategies all the time. If you pay attention, you’ll see this. He’s really good at misstating someone else’s views then going off on a fast talking rapid fire annihilation of the straw man he’s just stood up without allowing his guest to get a word in. Marc doesn’t win debates on the merit of his arguments or the strength of his position, he makes people think he’s won when he hasn’t really presented anything impressive from his point of view, but he attacks his opponents statements, not always just the substance of their statements but often the language and any little immaterial issue in the way something is stated which he uses to twist what they’ve said and uses straw men, biased information and even personal attacks and whatever fallacy is convenient.
@@invictusbp1prop143 he has respectful conversations with people with whom he disagrees and he comes prepared. I don't see his guests complaining about his style or framing of issues. I think you don't like him bc you disagree with him.
@@invictusbp1prop143 So if you say something is happening and I ask you where and you can't say, that's personal? Marc wasn't trying to win an argument but was trying to get his guest to make intelligent well founded conversation. That didn't happen and your drivel shows part of why
Read my memo, thank u.
It’s funny how we are worried about teaching race at an early age yet people are ok for kids to understand sexuality at an early age.. (i know this is going to ruffle some feathers)
Exactly!!!
It's the same group doing both
CRT critics never come prepared...always coming only with "anecdotal" evidence.
This comment should've gotten a lot more likes.
Marc you are the problem in this country. Thank God for Greg Foreman.
The fact that the guest mentioned black parents teaching their kids about racism lets me know he's out of touch with reality. Black folk don't have to teach their kids something they encounter daily. The only thing they have to do is help their kids put a label on it
I'm black. I don't encounter racism daily. I've experienced racism from my own kind, waaaayyy more than from white people, just for the fact that I'm light-skinned
@@rodiceclayjr9887 I don't think you may have recognized it when it occurred. That's why I said for many black children their parents may need to put a label on it for them. Racism is like a chameleon it disguises itself in such a manner that it doesn't have to be overt, just negatively impact your life in some form or fashion. And what you get from blacks because you're light isn't racism.....it's jealousy.
Im Black and know hundreds of blks including family who do nit encounter racism on a daily... I don't know of any instances 🤷
@@billyford7853 oh I forgot, we're too stupid to get an ID so we definitely can't see racism.
Like it was already, said, I'm black and the most racism I've seen is from other black people
@@mycitysucks8096 no sir. Apparently that's just me.
Marc’s tactics are actually quite simple. When you make a point, he will attempt to get the exact specific detail of your argument. And if you don’t remember every single detail, he’ll try to make you look stupid.
If your an expert, you should be well versed in the details of the arguments you’re making. Essentially he’s showing the audience that the guest hasn’t done the required reading.
@@drumspd that's why a guest is supposed to do thier homework BEFORE appearing on a show trying to debate someone with a PhD.
@@drumspd very true.
@@bryanhunnicutt7811 spot on
Marx’s method is an intellectually dishonest form of rebuttal, similar to strawmanning, that isn’t a real rebuttal. He selectively focuses on a point, mischaracterizes the central gist of the argument made, and then counters that. He is aware of what he does, and those who are on opposing sides of his position should also be aware of this when discussing with him.
My hats off to Greg… this guy has is own talking points and is clearly a proponent for CRT….
Gregg could show one single example that what he is saying has been taught in schools hahahahah Americans are so stupid
Dr. Hill is too intelligent to sit down with this uneducated individual. I like having discussions with people who disagree with me, but we must be factual and historically honest.
u're a low information person. lil boosie would seem intelligent to you.
You mean the educated, race baiting idiot
Greg Foreman has a degree in Economics, worked in finance, and now has a very successful pod cast. So-called "Dr" Hill, is an illogical dolt who kept interupting Greg bc he didn't was to look bad in the discussion. This isn't the only subject Hill talks about that he doesn't know
Colonialism is still causing havoc and chaos on the continent.France is still having a powerful grip on all it's former colonies,any African leader that wants to establish critical thinking is called to order ,the way the continent was mapped out is still causing conflicts till present date (Ethiopia currently)let that brother visit the continent !!
Exactly.
As early as children come in touch with racism people should be properly educated.
People should also learn that racist can come from from sides.
Children are not by nature racist -- they can become racist by teaching, though. It is counterproductive to teach children about racism when they are too young to understand it.
Mark is like the petulant child and Greg is the adult. The difference in their emotional maturity is so glaring. You make us all proud Greg.
Because he asked him to verify what he was talking about 😂😂😂
Keeping a calm demeanor while being wrong doesn't make one right. The purpose of a debate is to arrive at the truth, not be the most composed/calm.
@zoeyjuska7258 no he makes white people proud.
@@thephantom5368in what way? 🤡
Greg got schooled. Self hate doesn't work
Hopefully Greg can wake some people up. He’s the man!!!
He's a grifting raccoon. That's about it
@@blackbrother4827 Greg? Or Marc? Because someone like Marc who hustles race non stop. He knows damn well this stuff is going on. It’s everywhere. All you have to do is open your eyes. Stop looking at things at black and white all the damn time. God forbid people raise their children like that.
@@mylesh2607 if that's the case its both of them. Greg Foreman says what whites want to hear everyday for his grift. You people love raccoons like him but they always get a wake up call sooner or later. Never fails. People like you want to white wash history and make yourselves look good. The devil is a liar and deceiver. Buck dancers like Greg Foreman are all yours😀
@@blackbrother4827 so you’re a racist against anyone who thinks different than you? Glad we can go around calling each other raccoons and shit. Nothing racist about that….”you people” what do you mean by “you people”? Lol you’re so racist you can’t even see straight. Nobody is white washing shit, whatever that even means. Just another term thought up by some white liberal who wants you to hop on the victim train. Grow up and see the light. We are people before we are a color. The world sure would be a better place if we could learn from our past and try to do better in the future. Did you know that white people fought to free black people? Was that racist? Lol pathetic. You’re stupid. And I’m not saying that because you black before you call me a racist because I’m the furthest from it. I’m saying it because you just are.
@@mylesh2607 MF i couldn't careless what you think about me. Boy😀You're mad because I'm not a buck dancer like Greg Foreman who praises you people everyday in a video😀If that clown didn't talk about blacks everyday to grift he would be panhandling on a street corner
If OUR Kids EXPERIENCE Racism, than Chip and Becky are old enough to learn about Racism.
Right!
@Longhorn ok?? Biden wasn't my pick and neither was Trump. What does that have to do with yt parents being uncomfortable and fragile when it comes to learning the facts about US history.
@Longhorn oh yeah. I meant to reply to @Bo Jack
@@bojack2011 so what are you saying for the black, asian, and mexican parents speaking against CRT?
@@madcow1998 im not saying anything for anyone. I'm specifically talking about you yt people because its mostly your kind against it, whereas there are smaller numbers of black and brown people against it. Either way i said what tf i said.
That was pretty disingenuous and frankly low of you Marc. To play coy and gaslight like that is weak. You know full well the gentleman was speaking truth
Ya he is a typical angry hateful racist Democrat not really listening to what he is saying. Not trying to understand the real issue. Another Don and Cuomo.
It's pretty low to not have one example of what you are saying is correct. It's happening-----where?----- can't tell you, idk but it's happening!!!!
Marc just showed how little the guy actually knows about CRT
@@karenwhite4453 OH! You guys. Do your research before you say it's not being taught. It amazes me you all do not know. Greg had a hour notice and he was nervous. He knows his stuff. Virginia was suppose to have been discussed. Look up Greg's u tube before making judgments.
@@MrDdub619 watch Black Conservative then you will have your answer.
Greg is very correct 💯
You're bias
Greg Foreman is speaking truth but Mark just does not want to hear it.
sooo, we're concerned about a "group's" feelings? get this guy to 'splain to black children why their punishment for the same misconduct in school is different from their white counterpart? racism!
this guy is a waste of time!
I am black and I never got in trouble in school I am just saying. I went to a majority White school too.
@@lisah8438 🙄🤣
Another dumb comment from another stupid person....smfh
@@lisah8438 really, and i’m hungry 🙄 but i gotta go get the food myself ‘cause the cook has covid😏
@Stuffstuffington Stuff sorry, but couldn’t read your entire novel, but most black people “living” in america, live in reality! and what’s still true today in 2021 is “a mind is a terrible thing to waste.”
This man is so far down in the sunken place that he may never find his way out. It would be interesting to know where he grew up and what his history teachers represented.
I agree that Marc Lamont Hill (PHD) is so far down in the sunken place. You are correct.
@@anonymouspost8407 why do you use this name. I use my real name because my argument stands on its on it's own two feet. Marc is the man. Very start guy. Marc give all these guests the chance to make their arguments. But they fail. As today guest did.
@@robertschiavone5095
I value my complete privacy. This is the only social media I have.
I also believe that a person's profile name on a you tube comment does not add, nor take away from any statements validity.
It really is as simple as that.
@@anonymouspost8407 hahaha I agree
no, today's bIa
Much love and respect to Greg Foreman I agree with him on the idea of black history being taught and how we as a country and a society have progressed and made things better, but not extensive and unnecessary lessons on the subject of race particularly.
Btw I don't see hispanics percentages on the survey poll there and I'm questioning why? Wouldn't u all like to know how hispanic parents feel about their kids being taught certain things in school?
Mark hill is a joke
It's up to parents to make sure their children are educated, not the state. Homeschool your children don't let the government indoctrinate the greatest gift of your life.
You are correct sister. That’s what we should all be doing!
boooooooooooo
While I agree with you, most black parents don't have the time or resources to educate their kids (in the same way that school does. I went to school with a lot of white kids that came from money. I saw the difference between how blacks and whites raise their kids. When I asked my parents for the same educational opportunities and what not, they made reference to my race and said my standards were too high.
@@chocolateangel8743 I’m a so called black parent that is homeschooling my child. We have to start teaching our children the importance of the working for self, not depending so much on government, ect. We have to stop sending our kids to schools when they haven’t done anything to ever improve our schools
@@myownboss4450 I agree totally that we must have our own institutions for instilling knowledge. However, that is no excuse to ignore the public school system which directly produces the citizens that make up the society in which we exist. No matter where you go, the society you live in is your responsibility to make better for your own.
Excellent job Greg, I am so sick of people telling others that they have advantages based on their skin color, we need to promote people to be champions every day no matter what their race is.
This message has been so co-opted and bastardized. Social inequities do exist. It is multi-faceted and to limit it strictly to race is disingenuous. Sometimes, based on where you were socialized, your skin color can be part of the obstacles you must overcome. Of course that isn’t the only thing that can disadvantage an individual. Leftists have drilled down on that one part of the social inequity argument and rode to war on this.
GREG IS A BOOTLICKING STEPHAN FROM DJANGO UNCHAINED CLOWN!!!🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩
WE SICK BOSS MENTALITY!!!!
Teaching kids hatred and victimhood mentality will help nobody
Marc Lamont Hill is a slimy, slick and disingenuous debater. Greg kept his cool and Marc didn't. Marc started fidgeting, squirming and scratching his head. He is a phony. Greg won this debate hands down.
It's the " Is it inaccurate?" For me lol....
"So we should only teach them things in school that will only make you money??"
......Yes 😆
It went over your head.
He said teach them things that would make themselves money not make him money
Yes. I am all for dropping history lessons altogether.
@@rapsure5096 why would you want to drop history?? Thats definitely important. Its basic education and important
@@kait4824
Because they are adding propaganda.
Growing up in the '90s I learned about racism and slavery, Jim Crow and segregation. We were taught in elementary school the heroes of our nation such as Abe Lincoln alongside and in lockstep with the black figures in our history who were presented equally if not more as heroes, as their fight was against a tangible and real evil very recent in our past. While I would have welcomed and would openly advocate for a more detailed history with some of the lesser known names, I can honestly say as a kid I felt the same sort of pride when learning about Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, or Martin Luther King then I did in regards to any other American figure, despite being a white Jewish kid. Sure my understanding was limited in juvenile, I was a child, but call it naive but that sense of pride and the knot in my throat I got when listening to Dr Kings I had a dream speech as a child was good. And that, as a grown man with much more knowledge of the world and its messiness and persistent injustice, it feels the exact same way, is good. It's pride of truth itself, in the goodness and resilience of other people, it's pride for the love of Liberty, in the universal spirit that transcends ones time and space, or anything else. This is not to say the experience of someone black is not on top of this completely separate and foreign to me, I'm sure that it is, just as the feeling is different thinking about my relatives who escaped Poland before the wars, and Russia before the purges, and all those that did not brings up in me a feeling unique. But thinking of such things I'm sure also brings upon to others that same sense much more strong I believe, that ultimately unites. Sorry to be sappy, but all this debate makes me equal parts modeling to scared. Equity is not equality, The means to reach the stated goals of equity have been tried throughout our history, and to genocidal effect. I'm not even sure if pure equity is even the metric to care about per se, but regardless, This road to good intentions wherein all things are equal by fiat is lined the bodies of millions, from the failures of the 20th centurys failed Utopias and restorative projects
@Free breakfast Program of hand I can't say I have. Do you have a suggestion? Always happy to have a more historically grounded perspective
Abraham Lincoln wanted to send blacks back to Africa.
Well. I'm uncertain about what this topic excalated to oblivion without resolve. If the arguments was about taking resources from one group and giving it to another group or groups to the benefit of one and the detriment of another group. It happens under a certain executive administration on a regular.
It is important when the group didn't finishing getting what they where owed. Surely other will say we are deserving because they compete for the small resources claiming to be more deserving or superior. Yes that is a problem to resolve.
It is extremely difficult to listen to the guest speak his nonsense.
Crt IS implemented in schools. They taught principles of CRT when I was in school and I graduated in 2016. I was stuck in my echo chamber and internalized the principles of CRT, then I helped to teach them as the vice president and president of Urbana high school's African American club. I remember doing the "Privilege Walk" and all sorts of stuff. I remember telling black people that they needed to wake up to their reality, without realizing reality myself or what I was saying... I was denying blackness and the diversity (even of thought) within my own race. This opened my eyes. There is no one way to be black and there is no one black experience. Just as Africa has many continents, clothing styles, cultures, laws, governments, religions, languages, and foods, we black people have subcultures and individual ideas and characteristics that make us beautiful and pave way to our societal contributions, even inspiring us with different perspectives that may or may not help us shape our own. However, critical race theory or the teaching that institutional power lies with the majority demographic is a tool of division and its blanketed, not specific to any one subject to which it may be arguable. Crt fails when discussing income, education, business ownership (and success), or bank loans. Nigerians and Asian (mostly Chinese) immigrants beat black and white people in all of these categories but they are BIPOC which refutes the idea that whiteness and white people reign superior. This also fails to acknowledge the amount of white people on government assistance or that are homeless. The system seems to be failing white people too. Meanwhile illegal immigrants are pouring in by the millions, aliens are getting 450,000 per family member, and build back better gives amnesty. It sounds like the most critical race is non-white. No one can name ONE thing that propels white people within policy, but there are all sorts of "equality" and "equity" programs to uplifts BIPOC, LGBTQ+, and other disadvantaged people. I haven't found a scholarship (yet) for white people. Not to mention, some white people lie on applicants because it is less beneficial to be white in current society and it often works. CRT leads to situations like South Africa and that's not the American way. CRT brings division.
You talk about the disadvantages of white folks but fail to mention the advantages of white folks why is that ??????
@@taujhrutledge3982 because I'm not a white supremacist.
@@GreenBlue143 white folks have plenty advantages the last thing they need is a pitty party
@@taujhrutledge3982 black people also have advantages. We'd do a lot better if we focus on that instead of worrying about what white people have
@@U_neekliss I agree to somewhat with that sentiment I don't completely agree with us having advantages what advantages are you speaking of but if we stay focus we can accomplish what needs to get done
I cannot imagine in South African schools parents decide that we must erase learning about colonization, apartheid, etc. Teach history 👏.. what happened, who did what and where are we now?
Teach history as nasty as is. History is not about opinions. It's about what happened, when it happened, who did what to who and for what reasons. That's it. This was painful to listen to.
Sure take an hour on black injustice, then move to Native American injustice, then Japanese injustice. Then go to reading, math, science.
@@dextercampbell942 lol well when you put it like that...😁
Nobody is erasing anything. CRT is teaching nonsense
Why are we teaching racism? If you stop teaching children that they are different, racism would end. Teaching history is different, teach the facts about slavery and how it was ended. Don't forget to include the fact that Africa still enslaves people. Everyone should be taught history!
CRT is racist. We the parents have seen what you all are up to and we are against it. Separating people by race was once called racism……..
lol
Why debate when there’s no debate. Most of these individuals don’t understand CRT.
The people who told me I was racist because I’m white when I was training to volunteer at a crisis hotline for teens claimed they knew a lot about CRT
@@msi8311 well they were wrong just like you are. You don’t know what Critical Race Theory is because it is literally a course in certain law schools. Nice try though Chad!
@@KCal1213 you’re very misinformed
@@LS-fe4ob and you are just stupid. You can Google it simple it isn’t hard.
@@KCal1213 I studied it in University darling. It’s not just taught in ‘certain law schools’ ;)
Teach American history, but not racism....how?
Children in Iowa don't need to know anything about the sacred grievances of Hog Anus, Mississippi.
True! everything in history happened because of money and it was backed by a belief of white superiority. Its happened other places in the world, but morso from classism, rich vs poor, or casts systems royalty and peasants.
@jonlenihwtfan4798
@@jonlenihan4798are you mentally ill
Couldn’t get to minute 2. When this grifter said it was the responsibility of the parents to talk to their children about race-and then suggested whether it be at 2 or when they’re teenagers, and intimated that this would be in order, he demonstrated that he was not competent to engage in dialogue with any informed and well-educated person on the topic. Bro. Hill should’ve said, “Thank you for your time! When we come back from the break, what retiring Black farmers are are doing to inspire and create a new generation of young, Black farmers. Back in a moment.” Boy, bye.
This is basically "Please make white people comfortable so they can give me money" - Greg Foreman.
🎯
😂😂😂NOPE
"Racism isnt dead. Its on life support - kept alive by politicians, race hustlers, and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as racist."
Thomas sowell
Thank you Marc Hill and BNC News for having these conversations.
What Conversation??
Mr. Marc Hill .. Wouldn't Let His Own Guess, Finish His Speaking Points, or Speak!..
He, like all conservatives cannot get facts straight. They get embarrassed relentlessly
@Longhorn What? That was stupid... You're talking about pronouns... and shit that we're not about. A few of them think it's cool..it don't speak for all of us.
I'm talking about facts and you're proving my point.
@Longhorn I don't fucking like Biden... don't put me in that category
@Longhorn
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This guy was a total waste of time. His argument blew up in his face with his "only teach what makes money". That comment indicated his level of intelligence. This is a simpleton posing. NEXT!!!!
I think this is where Black people are getting caught up on CRT. They see someone telling there children that they are oppressed, but i went to school in the late 60's and 70,'s and graduated in the early 80's. I was taught about slavery in school, learned about the slave trade from roots on tv, touch the hands of former slaves, knew people who 10 years old when it ended and people who escape because they was born the year it ended. I know people today who remember Jim Crow and having to go to back of restaurants to get something to eat, drinking out of colored water fountains and make sure they was hime before nightfall so the wouldn't get beat hung. So CRT was something to upset white folks to get trump votes.
Marc hill is a go along get along I hate this victim mentality
What you hate is the truth, and facts
@@66seattle from victimologist
@Longhorn they do! And they also teach about the switch to the Republican Party. Swipe left. Next question.
@@66seattle ...what truth and facts
@@66seattle Ok we know the truth. Now can we teach our black kids to read and count?
I would have loved to see Dr. Umar in this discussion when Greg stated his opinion on racism.
As well my favorite Top 5, Dr. Rashaad Richie, Joe Madison, Roland Martin, Professor West and Cenk Uygur
@@garybjr42 Absolutely
I forgot to mention Professor Eric Dyson
Who has the power to be "racist" toward white people?
This man is in over his head!!
Who? How?
@@j-us-t_be-in-g are you serious that man can't get off his talking points and can't clearly answer his questions. He's unqualified to be on here with Marc!
@@mrovertime4 No. Marc isn't as intelligent as you're making him out to be. He's more political than intuitive with what he discusses.
@@j-us-t_be-in-g in regards to this interview he asking direct important questions. And this dude is flustered and off. He's clearly intellectual over his head on this topic.
@@mrovertime4 You're one of those guys that loves to argue! I'm not going to give it to you. It's no point in doing so when you're stuck in your ways. You're not going to hear what I got to say because you clearly think you're right. I know how this goes. You'll be ignorant to the fact that my perspective don't hold weight, so again, it's useless to go back and forth with you when I know the outcome.
Great point (Greg Foreman) I am a student of (The Great Carter G Woodson), and I have learned how to eat the meat and throw away the bones when it comes to the miseducation of the American School System!!
I believe in all that but here is my thing with an attitude like that: when y'all gone stop talking and actually educate your own? Instead of telling them to not be educated at all? Just a question. Cause all I see is black folks only worried about their own stomach and not how the entire community gonna get fed. American education system is more of a shortcut, not a miseducation. If not for it, you nor I would have never dug deep enough to know Carter G. Woodson ever existed.
@@future_teknokrat7585 Please don't speak for me or I represent because if you pay attention close attention to the statement I made but I will not discuss foolishness because I do have bigger fish 🐠🐟 to fry.
@@reallife0728 No you are just an idiot because you disagree with the truth and please stop playing games hiding behind the comment section!
In a time when literacy, science and mathematics are at an all time low among black Americans, black people should eschew any interest in past grievances or interpretation of history in general. Their primary focus should be in reaching parity in math, literacy and science. Furthermore, any policy that doesn't primarily focus on economic success, is a waste of time. Lastly, let parents teach their children how to be good people; let teachers teach basic skills.
@Free breakfast Program I am not sure what your point is. I do not have any children and it appears you assume I am white. Who is responsible for public education? Who is responsible for how children are educated? Blaming white women is silly. Create your own schools like Jews, Muslims, Amish and Mormons, etc.. do. In fact, expecting other people, outside of your community with little skin in the game, to educate your kids seems a tad silly to me. Stop complaining; stop whining and stop looking for someone to do something for you.
Guy on the right is concerned about solutions, guy on the left is concerned with grievance.
I’m with the dude on the right.
BECAUSE YOU ARE RACIST!!!
Be proud of that
How could your last example be a example when it NEVER happened
These people are delusional and don't live in reality. This black guest is heavily propagandized and has confirmation bias because he personally is fine with the way things are
I was hired by the state of Georgia. My boss told me that as a white man he would not be able to hire me if I were not old. He said he had quotas. The implication is that young white people are discriminated against. You can argue it is ok or not but you are wrong if you argue that it does not happen.
I have a friend whose father was a mechanic he was training and young and experienced white man on-the-job by mistake he got the young white man's paycheck and saw that it was much more than what he was making and he was experienced and have been there for years now you can say this doesn't happen all you want but it does
@@reidabney9005 I don't doubt you. I have to wonder if he was a good mechanic vs the skill set of the young mechanic. Was the young man kin? I have to wonder why.
That, however, does not take away from the fact that young white men were not considered for my job no matter their skill set.
@@reidabney9005 lol you can't take every example of a bigger check and just toss it in the racism pile. I do CNC machining and the boss has friends that get paid more. I'm one of 2 black machinists and all of the white guys get paid the same and hate the bosses pet employees
I was a substitute teacher between jobs (I am White), and when I kindly told the class to pls be seated a 7 yo Black girl said, You are just a White guy, I don't have to listen to you. I guess she got educated at home ... very differently than my parents taught me - to treat everyone with respect. Teaching that all White people are racist is not only inaccurate, it is not good for Black people.
our black children had to experience it,their children should learn it,C.R.T. 100%
I have to give Marc props, while I dont share many of his views, he does allow others from the opposing views to come onto his show and defend their positions....
Marc is a cornball
Marc is a fair host; he offers a platform to people he wholeheartedly disagree with and is always open to discuss those ideas
Because Marc lets this guy burry himself this was embarrassing to be honest the Fox news talking points are getting old and Nauseating....
@@ThePrayinmantiz But his professionalism! When his guest destroy their own message by contradicting their own statements, Marc keeps the coldest composure. Maybe its a character flaw, but I couldn't win a debate, where my opponent is blowing holes in his argument, with a straight face.
Of course he wants this guest back - he was unprepared and dug his own grave. I’ll say that this was an interesting interview. Typically, a conservative host will ask their leftist guest for specific examples to back up their claims, and the leftist gives anecdotes or speaks in generalities/emotion. The shoes were on the other feet here. I wouldn’t have been swayed by this guest’s opinion solely because he wasn’t able to back up his claims at all. It’d be interesting to see Marc have a better prepared guest on his program. Can’t argue the outcome here.