Marc Lamont Hill debates Black conservative on if America is Racist
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Marc Lamont Hill sits down with Black conservative Jay-Juan Shakur Jones on GOP Sen. Tim Scott’s comments that America is not a racist country.”
Twitter users sounded off online over the comments, which forced Twitter to ban the “Uncle Tim” hashtag.
Jones says that he agrees with Scott’s comments because Black people do not experience the same level of racism as they did 70 years ago.
Who do you side with? Sound off below.
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The problem is that man still think we’re living in 2001. He said it twice 😂
Right! like he repeated it! I had to rewind it a few times to make sure I heard him right 🤦🏽♀️
Kamala Harris said it too, that America is not a racist country...will Marc Lamont Hill debate her on this, or is that debate only reserved for the Republicans?
@@BBrown-km5mi her opinion honestly and truthfully dont matter...but ultimately racism still exists when there are racial/cultural categories (black/caucasian/Asian/Mexican). Our constitutional rights and laws are extremely unequal and discriminatory..favoritism toward certain groups can blatantly be seen. Americans need to own up to this and take pride in being able to Express themselves individually. It should be perfectly normal for each category to function as groups,teams, gangs and religious organizations without being hassled. Lying about it creates problems and illusions. I'm sure when VP Kamala passes on...her wealth would be transferred to either her husband or individuals connected to India. An example of self hatred
@@tonet6601 trust me, i get everything ur saying, but this is the vice president of the United Snakes of Amerikkka saying that Amerikkka is not a racist country, then ultimately she has no real plans or intentions of addressing something she feels doesn't exist, she talks out both sides of her neck, a forked-tongue bedw**ch
@@BBrown-km5mi this period of covid gave blacks time to organize strategize and implement a solution and having it prepared in the next two years as a group. Economically, Blacks can generate a large amount of currency but unfortunately they don't control what's being generated. Really gotta draw the line and come up with a solution....#priorities
How can we move forward as a people with mentalities like this!
Harriet Tubman said: “I freed a thousand slaves I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.”.
Yes Lord
Actually it's good we have different points of views. Did Malcom X and Dr. King have the same ideology? Nope. They had the same overall goal though. Just ideas how to get there. How about Booker T Washington and D.E.B. Deboris? Same thing answer, No. So let's stop getting upset because someone thinks differently from you and just actually listen to what they are saying. You agree with a few things...... im not rep or lib so save that talk.
Amen
I was a long-haired hippie in the 70s. I could literally write a book about racism. How it was and how it wasn't. Can't get any of these race hustlers to debate with me to save my life.
Never mentioned is the generation to generation self-perpetrated genocide of black on black crime and murder in "black communities" caused exclusively by DEMOCRATS. READ FrontPage Magazine, a great resource.
The democrats were and still are the confederacy and founded the KKK and owned all the slaves and did all the lynching.. go figure the results.
"I appreciate you coming around to my point."
"I'm not.... damn he got me"
😂😂
It's circular reasoning fallacy
Systemic racism being defined as the racist outcomes of racist systems. The argument being the outcomes are racist because the system is racist, because it creates racist outcomes, which then evidences the system is racist, because it creates the racist outcomes... And so on and on and on.
Only the person committing this fallacy thinks it is a good argument.
I don't care what level of education a person has, they all double-talk when they can't truly explain their position.
Systemic racism exist because of racist policy's that were put into place by white racists! Period! And the only way to eliminate systemic racism is to remove those racist policies, except that can't be accomplished until you remove racist politicians that protects, preserve, and rewrites racist policies!
And unfortunately, sold-out black folks who desperately want to be white or approved by whites, will help to protect & preserve racist policies.
@@ericjones9975 Which policies are you speaking of specifically?
All I can do is shake my head listening to this guy. That’s why at this day and time the truth is so distorted! The lies are told so long they believe it and do not worry about who it hurts.
I hope you mean the "systemic racism" lie. I was a long-haired hippie in the 70s. I could literally write a book about racism. How it was and how it wasn't. Can't get any of these race hustlers to debate with me to save my life.
Never mentioned is the generation to generation self-perpetrated genocide of black on black crime and murder in "black communities" caused exclusively by DEMOCRATS. READ FrontPage Magazine, a great resource.
I agree. Marc Lamont hill tells a lot of lies
This is because he has made it in the world of the dominante society and has many friends within the dominant society. Probably also has a girl friend or wife who are members of this society. He is blind due to his acheivements and he feels that he has to speak up in defense of the great system that he apparently supports. Also as a side note.....THE UNCLE TOM WAS NOT THE FIGURE THAT WAS A TURN COAT AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE, IT WAS THE SAMBO PERSONALITY that was the figure of scorn for relating all the efforts of slaves to his master for a pat on the head an extra butter biscuit.
@tracykennedy7639
There are two guys speaking here. Which guy are you talking about? There are others watching who agree with one and disagree with the other. Which one are you disagreeing with, the Senator, or Marc? To simply say “this guy” goes no where at all towards saying which guy exactly by their name or title. When you only say “this guy,” the people reading your comment don’t know whether you’re referring to Marc or to the Senator and therefore don’t whether they agree or disagree with you. When referring to two or more people and you want people to know exactly the person you’re talking about it’s necessary to use names or nouns or personal nouns and not pronouns. “this guy” could be any one of these two guys. Which guy, exactly! Lies from both sides are being told right to this day! So which guy, exactly, is lying, according to you? Other people may agree or disagree with you. But the problem is, they don’t know which guy you’re referring to other than to “this guy.” Which guy?
When you say, “he” has made it in the dominant society…,” to whom of these two men are you referring? They both at least appear to have made it in “the dominant society.” So which man are you talking about, Marc, or the Senator? There’s a time to use pronouns, and there’s a time to use personal nouns and nouns. Since there are two men here, and you give no further clarification and distinction between the two with regards to what each says, other than “…he has made it in the dominant society…,” now is the time to use personal nouns. Which of these two men, exactly, “…has made it in the dominant society…,” Marc or the Senator? Which the heck man are you referring to when you only say “he”?
Marc gets excited when he gets close to a gotcha moment. Fun to watch.
I agree!
Yup!
Only his gotcha are in his mind.
Did he say that this is April 2001?
I think he misspoke really, I heard it as well. I’ll give it a pass on that one.
nah bruh stuck in 2001
That’s how two black brothers have a real conversation! No name calling or racial epithets!
@Josh Not sure why you don't have more thumbs up for this comment but you are absolutly right.
This point is irrelevant since one brother used facts while the other used talking points and the usual deflections of white conservatism
As well as being short sighted and not seeing the big picture.Exactly like African Americans to do....Act like it's exclusive to here when it happens everywhere.And acting as if it's never reciprocated.As if African Americans aren't racist towards literally everyone else.Build your foundation on lies and half truths,and your house will not stand
Love the conversation, and respect showed to one another.
@@deepee4323 It was more about the respect and character showed to one another.. But you're true when you said one used facts, and the other used talking points.
Whenever Marc says “great point”, he’s setting buddy up for a gotcha moment. 👀🤣🤣
Which shows how disingenuous Marc is. I guess if you like this as entertainment then knock yourself out. But the real issue is that Tim Scott correctly said that American is not a racist country. Senator Scott never said anything about systemic racism. Therefore the whole argument was about something Tim Scott didn't even say.
I find him condescending but in this instance he owned his guest!
@@JustT725 It's not his fault that his guest put their foot in their mouths. He is just showing how they don't swim in reality.
@@JustT725 but he didn't have to. The system are the means and logistics in which the country manifests itself, so if there's something wrong with the system, naturally there's something wrong with the country. It's like someone says that V8 engine is a gas guzzler referring to your Cadillac and your response is he didn't mention my Cadillac, of course not except that your Cadillac runs on a V8 engine and without that you don't have a car.
@@haitianfella84 so if these systems are place to keep us down, how do you explain the success that we continue to have in this country? Not saying racism doesn’t exist, but this country has come a long way. I just refuse to be a victim and I won’t tech that to my kids.
I have no idea how Marc doesn't have a brain aneurysm during these interviews.
Pretty sure marcs already had an aneurysm
With the nonsense he’s saying
Jesus Christ
Where does he find these lunatics
@@coxac1 Troll.
I honestly can’t understand why he invites the least capable thinkers to demolish them in debates. These conversations are beneath him and the audience.
No wonder we can't get ahead we have to many people like this brother that defend and excuse designed racism🤦♀️
Yeah I know and there's others races agreeing with him as well
There's no facts only emotional trauma that Marc Hill claims.
Look out Paris Dennard, someone's trying to take your place.
God HELP Us!!😳😳😆🤣
i cannot stand that pos ugghh
🤣🤣🤣🤣 EXACTLY
Where is his bit*h ass at anyway?
🤣😂
He wasn't ready🤣🤣
thats what kevin hart said! lol
I don’t think he knows what systemic means.
What does it mean" I can still use the word racism if I can't make it!" That's systematic racism!
I love that Brother. One of the smartest Men on the planet. MLH.
The man who said men can have children? Yeah. Real genius.
Really? I think you need to read more
He's a faux-intellectual antisemite.
When Marc says, "great point", he's being disingenuous.
Orrrrr he could really think it’s a great point. That’s kind of how a debate is supposed to go 😬😬😬
This man isn't smart. He's defending a position that he doesn't know the definition of. Know what you stand for then defend what you stand for. Damn homie
"When you control,a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions". "Every person has two educations. One that is given to them and the other which they must give themselves". I agree this fellow and tim scott have been mis informed..."not smart".
When you start seeing a man close his eyes while struggling to defend a point (that doesnt have a nervous tick), youre watching him symbolically closing his mind to a better idea.
Seemingly he's getting paid but you'd think he'd wanna at least learn the definition of systemic racism. These people against Critical Race Theory usually don't know the definition of the subject they talk about.
Is this the Marc Lamont fan club of Marxist undertones and soft bigotry of low expectations? 😆😆😆🤣 I’m sure it had nothing to do with everyone in this particular culture NOT having a daddy🤣🤣🤣 All this feminist energy is comedic gold!!
@@ortizdr81 I see someone is just shitting themselves laughing thinking they are so smart and don't see the irony in what they said.
Oh, I see. He doesn't understand data.
He doesn’t understand anything
Clearly. Not part of his indoctrinated repertoire.
Most wannabe conservatives don't !!
@@michaelmillerski1071 Absolutely, these kinds of conservatives (Buck Dancers) are either A. Ignorant or B. Lying for profit.
Bless his heart and his mind. Key words are “systemic” and “data.”
You must be joking
He might be🤭 I hope😆😆😆
Attempting to change racism is like attempting to change the wind that blows.
It is a lot easier to change the set of the sail ( our mindset) then it is to change the wind.
Yes….
@nigeltang8738 true but you can change the systematic outcomes by recognizing it and making changes
I didn’t know I was going to watch someone bend themselves into a pretzel
Marc got him twice and he didn't realize it till it was too late hahah
Mlh is a racist piece of shit
No he didnt. Marc is a race baiter. America is not a racist country. Is there racism in this country? YES! But not a racist country.
@@uanonymous1090 The country was built on racism and does what ever it can to keep black and brown people from having a real say, whether outright or covertly. Why are black names being stereotyped against when it comes to them getting a job compared to white names with the same resumes? What about black people getting pulled less by cops at night? Why are areas where mostly rural blacks live are being targeted by voting laws? They're citizens, not illegal immigrants, we know these folks are legal citizens, yet we still try to make it harder to vote. What is that?
No man, he would just spit out a strawman argument
It’s not a system that’s racist against black conservatives, it’s a mindset, it’s an ideology, one which Marc shares
I gotta run...this was light work 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 Yo, I almost spit out my beer.
Money get the Gasface! Defending the indefensible.
Gas face lol you go back when you sayin that.
"....making different choices to change the system.." Bingo! A literal admission to systemic issues.
That door analogy literally dumbned it down for me and now i understand clearly. Great analogy.
Lmao damn really I always thought the issue was was common sense 😆😭
@@midwestthebest3967 I dont understand
The duty of a true patriot is to protect his country from its government~ Thomas Paine
The Slave States used that same quote in 1860
@@charlesislaw if you read your history you will find that 99% of whites in the south did not own slaves and that most were the poor and some even slaves themselves. Media, movies and tv paint a picture and most today take that as complete truth. A small group of people owned slaves and they are the same ones who own the big companies and are in our government. My point being is the regular southern white male is not your enemy even though a few towns in the south did have some bad shit going on it wasn't every town. Dis you know that after emancipation, whites were still being sold as slaves till 1900's in the middle east. Dis you know that the English enslaved Irish people and the English government had to finally outlaw slave owners from having black slaves impregnating white women slaves which is where the term mulatto comes from. And why didn't the government perpetuate the story if whites being slaves?
@@stuartewoldt1513 Truth to much of what you stated. The question is why were white people so comfortable with allowing all of the evil of slavery, Jim Crow, etc. to continue to be perpetuated against blacks? The regular southern white man was perfectly comfortable in being complicit to the degradation of an entire race of people.
@@iamiao94 I agree. But you have say why this and why that to everything. It's TRUE that it was up held by ordinary common whites, but I want to preface not all. Im not excusing them, this is my observation. With everything separated between percieved race, that race was your community your people and no others. So if a white people would step out of line, they would ostracised. I did t live back. Then but just a observation from reading and talking to old people and what I see now. I'm sure the same can be said for black. People in there race with keep them in check. Similar to today just not as wide spread. Take the lefty's, if you disagree with them, then your are the enemy and thus kicked from group if you was part of it. The same can be said for conservative expect your less likely to be dox or house set on fire(just my opinion) but the act of being separate and viewing the others race as "the other" you can create miss representation and preface judgments about the other race. It's unfortunate but just people need the group. Thus you get what happen. Today lefty's call for segregation and want to view everything thru race. The opposite of what we were taught to get past that era. Its opposite of what dr.king said in his "i have a dream speach" which about in what seems like every year of school. All separation does is cause fear but also everyone need something in common that's not part of there individuals peoples culture, something that cross all barriers and one of those is country. We all individuals and community with many different cultures under one banner and one flag. But also I say again lefty's have uprooted that to.
@@jimmyjohnjuan Yes, I was taught to question everything and apply critical thinking skills before concluding any position. There has never been an honest conversation in this country around the concept of race. Who started the concept of race? Why did they come up with the concept? Was race not used in the development of laws and practices that shaped this country? Why was it used for such discriminatory practices within this country, particularly? Acknowledging these questions and developing/understanding the reasoning behind them is not inherently bad. It's easy to just say fall back on the teachings of Dr. King, which is the major talking point for some currently. Yet, to simply go along with that criteria without doing the work to acknowledge why he had to even make that statement in the first place is reductive in nature to his assassination and his sentiments surrounding race relations in America. The issue is more nuanced and less surface as some are making it out to be. How do you truly change someone's heart surrounding such a complex issue? Legislation or electing a certain type of person to political office, alone want do that.
Also, you speak throughout your post about the left/right over and over. So again, racial division is bad, but now you're going to fall back on a rooted political division that has been allowed to be planted? Why? Based on my interpretation of your post one political affiliation is right and just. Yet, how do you come to that conclusion? Do you believe everything you're fed about people of an opposite political identity as fact? What dark forces are playing upon people and benefitting from the disjointed information a lot of people are being fed through their respective media platforms? The fact that the disjointed information is presented as fact and allowed to fester without being called out just leads to more division and misunderstanding. Again, who are the dark forces benefitting and why are so many "righteous" folks willing to go along simple to feel that they are right?
Marc and BNC should bill him for the equity training
Heh. :)
There's no equity training here. There's one guy prepared for the discussion and another guy who was not completely prepared.
I do think Marc Lamont is smarter than him. But you should watch Marc Lamont debate Candace Owens if you want to see IQ peers. Note Candace does not have a Ph.D. but she WASHED Marc.
Why does thie guest in this interview remind me of the Living Color Skit The Pancreatic Philosophy of Oswald Bates? Especially when he tried to give his interpretation of systematic unintentional racism using the 4ft door.
@@hollygoodtree8902 really?!? Candace talks at 100 mph to give the impression she is intelligent and quick witted. When. You go back and listen to her, her logic is shaky and unsound similar to Ben Shapiro.
@Brandon x you just said whole lot of nothing.
The Professor had a student in class today... Too bad he wasn't taking notes
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Calling Scott 'Uncle Tim' may be racist and offensive, but it is accurate in describing his abject denial of racism in America
There is no justification for calling anybody, of any color, a racist pejorative or slur. No justification, not politically, not socially, not economically.
Indeed, using any kind of slur, not just racial, attacking the character of someone we disagree with just shows that we have run out of arguments against their position.
Attack the message, not the messenger.
Marc is so patient with folk who are so confident in their ignorance.
he said nothing ignorant white liberals like you like a pet not a competitor columbia u is notorious for that shit ask any black student they act like youre there off a handout or needy and when you can compete, try to break you down and show you your place so explain the ignorance
@@helloandgoodbye2546 umm now ignorant, not white, not a liberal. Lol 3 strikes
@Joe Stanley lol that like saying if someone slaps the sh$t out of you , you shouldn't be too upset because someone else has been murdered. Don't be so silly,and reductive
Cadence Owens ate this guy up in a debate
That woman could only beat people with her tongue speed nothing more
@@chriswelljack4910 go watch
@@zapatatheghost90026 got a link to that?
Got anymore fairytales?
@@ashlirabid9614 joe Biden got fairytales in his head go watch him for a few minutes if you want fairytales
This channel is definitely a breath of fresh air compared to others. The host actually allows the guest to fully state their opinions and views without cutting them off. It's because the host has facts to back up the issue. If you know you're correct there's no reason to cut someone off. Also do use the phrase "because of my audience I have to cut them off every time they lie". Viewers are smart enough to know the truth from a lie. Even if the audience disagrees with the truth they're that's on them allowed to. Hosts have to trust their audience. I think this host does.
MLH has been in the talk format conversation trenches
He's not the one to get tripped up
It’s annoying that he refuses to concede after clear multiple checkmate. The man’s is suffering from ignorance aswell as being a simp. Why you would invite him back is beyond us.
possibly looking for a breakthrough? even with hopes of saving a man’s mind from the pit disillusion?
A black man that got a PhD from an Ivy League school is speaking on systematic racism 😂😂😂 where is the checkmate?
@@slickkktony6801 exactly
He’s inviting him back because he THINKS he “checkmates” hun a bunch of time when in fact all his Ivy League education is psych n him is a bunch of fallacies (straw mans red herrings creating a bunch of slippery slopes etc) it’s foolishness.
We all want the same thing and as long as we are fighting from a place of I’m right your wrong, we can’t make progress to the goal we ALL want to achieve. Harmony. There will be none of that as long as we focus on victim hood because that is breeding a generation and culture of entitlement.
Nice 20k motorcycle. Lol
I guess no body gets bored of having the same conversation 1 million times
"Thats a wonderful tie. Thats a Howard University tie. So I'm sure Morehouse and Hampton people are cheering right now because of this debate." 🤣🤣🤣🤣 13:30
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This guy is in way over his head...The last comment was a knockout!
You don’t think that black people should be conservatives?
Conservative won. Not a victim
@@marohan dude just called himself a victim due to white Liberals.
@@a.m928 he said, if anyone is the real racist, it is the ones who call him coon n uncle Tim. Whitewomen on the view having more insight on blackness than him. Melissa Milano want to keep monolithic herd thinking individuals. He bucks that n truly doesn't care. A free thinking black man.
@@marohan we are tslkimg about Black people calling him Cook or Uncle Tom not white women on the view
You stab me in the back. You then want me to thank you for pulling the knife out halfway. Is this realistic ??
Malcolm x said it better
Civil rights act of 1964? Welfare? Helloooo????
@@Lolaismypoopydog2036 - Kick rocks.
The door analogy 😂
Was on point
Although i don't agree with him but he made great points. However
no one can hold you down but yourself
This was an argument of semantics and is a great example of why we can't get actual change. Took all that time to argue over what systemic means instead of coming up with solutions
Don't you need to agree on basics such as definitions etc first?
@@erilynn370 yes you do
@@erilynn370 that's the thing with Black Conservatives. If it sounds Liberal they will fight against it without actually understanding what is being said.
Systemic racism means every race and culture can get ahead in america except african americans. It has nothing to do with black culture. Apparently nigerians are not black because america seems to be working out awesomely for them.
@@scottemmons6409 Yeah so that’s not what systemic racism means lmaooooo please read a book
How do we know that? How do we not know that as well?
left wing, right wing. same bird
Same damn bird!!! 🎯
They know Buck Dancing pays well.
He probably likes potato salad with raisins.
The biggest enemy of black people is white liberals that say they want to help- malcom x
@@marcoszavala8435 - the first thing that white man does is find a black man to offset what the other blackman says. See senator Tom/Tim "we sick boss 😁" Scott. - Malcolm X.
@@rgood1204 ask marc lamont hill of men can give birth. He says they can , why would you think he says this? The liberals are using black struggles to promote their own agenda, they are being used in other words. Do you think the majority of black Americans believe men can give birth?
@@rgood1204 its sick how they use the media to get every black person to try to think the same , and if they don't, the white liberals don't have to say anything because black democrats will attack and say racist things while the liberal just watches and laughs.
How did you get him to disprove his own point, with examples, twice? Laughing so hard right now
Just because there are racist people doesn't mean they whole country is racist
@@dominicspooner4266 Exactly. We’ve still got things like driving while black, but we also give black people a leg up in college admissions. You can make it here, as proved by millions of prospering, satisfied black people.
Word inclusion. Marc really had him going in circles, the guests last point he was trying to make was white liberals are actually the racist ones.
Mark then took that statement and turned it into white liberals are apart of the system. Mark was sticking to the topic of whether there is a system and the guest wanted to discuss political parties well done. All respect
@@dagr8dwalo777 How’s that pity party working for you? Keep sending payments to the race hustlers (all they are). Keep showing disrespect for blacks who have made it. That disrespect is the difference between the winners and losers (that would be YOU).
@@212ntruesdale I’m assuming you didn’t mean to @ me I have no clue what you are talking about
"Thank you for coming around to my position." LMAO!!
I love this respectful conversation between two brothers with opposing viewpoints! We need so much more of this in the black community!
Senator Tom Scott opened up the church door for Dylan Roof.
Stupid comment
@@marohan
South Carolina had to be forced and shamed to take down their racist Confederate flag at the state Capitol grounds.
Tom Scott was silent during that time. Black men like him allow racism to go on all around him unchecked.
Tom Scott continues to open up the church doors for the Dylan Roofs.
@@marohan
Backup why you say it's a stupid statement, if you can.
@@navyflyer7465 his name is Tim Scott. Distinguished Senator Tim Scott.
Barack Obama ran the spotter scope for Micah Xavier Johnson. 🤦🏿♂️
Conservative man admits racism exists then says it doesn't in the same sentence lol. Why does admitting America is racist bother black conservatives so much.
Because it bothers his buddies..
Because you can't listen. He never said there was no racism. He said the systems of America weren't racist anymore. He agreed that racial disparity is an outcome of the current system. He basically blames the Architect's of the reformed systems for the outcomes. These Architect's are majority Democrat. This is basically what I believe as well.
There is slavery n Africa today. Liberals don't bring up that racism.
@@marohan yes, bringing up another country proves your point.
@@Seizetheday2011 real oppression vs delusion
after 11 hours Twitter thought uncle Tim was offensive . #hypocrites
Yeah like after a few hundred years america decided "nigger" was offensive.
@@thomasowes1574 whats that gotta do with twitter?
Jay-Juan Shakur Jones lost this debate. I hope he remembers what he learned here. He seems like a nice young man, he is just misinformed.
Thank you, Marc Lamont Hill, for all you do. I enjoy watching your interviews/debates.
It is very unfortunate that Mr Scott cares more about being in the Republicans good gracies than he does the people he was elected to represent. Racism is alive and well in the US.
Bulshit your post is full of shit
You're the racist
There's also murder, rape, theft, etc.
Lol dude was lost when Marc say glad you came around to my point. Why change if it’s not broke
His facial expression gave him away.
Yea it was a total sophomoric comment, its no wonder Hill got Shit canned from CNN
@@JustT725 the dude got completely owned by Hill
@@JustT725 wait. Don't you guys hate CNN for constantly lieing? So wouldn't his firing be because he was telling the truth, if we follow your guys version of reality? And if that isn't true of the first part, then maybe he was fired because CNN isn't actually a leftist news organization, and therefore, wouldn't want someone on that supports left ideas? You guys can't have it both ways
How are we going to end structural racism by voting? Because 90% of us voting Democrat for the last 60 years has not worked.
Lesser of 2 evils, yes, but Republicans don't give a damn about black people
chiefs816kc
Are you suggesting that we vote Republican instead
@@berthabanks5223 it seems reading comprehension is a challenge for you...
@@berthabanks5223 - No, idiot. We need to demand more from the dems. If they can’t provide that, don’t vote.
Why not have Candace on the show so she can wreck him for a third time
Candace is a Clown 🤡
Candace is clueless 🤡🤡🤡
@@ThePrayinmantiz She is to the far left morons who believe fiction over facts.
@@TheRealSoulGospeListic But she consistently wrecks all these morons
Candice doesn't wreck them, she just doesn't let them speak..
America in 1830 was racist in 1867 it was less racist but racist anyway
Kamala said the same thing. So let's make sure we call her to the floor.
She married to a white man why she gonna talk about racism
at 7:09 Marc Lamont HIll just destroyed Boo Boo the Fool's entire ridiculous, flimsy argument.
Marc Lamont needs to invite Kamala Harris and Jim Clyburn since they said the EXACT same thing at Tim Scott.
Boo boo the fool, I'm dead 😅😅😅😂
No he really didn't.
I bet this brother think his history began in 1776
You mean when America declared independence from England, and became a sovereign country?
@@JustT725 Oh gee did that happen on that date? That must be when his history began. His ancestors must have spontaneously materialised onto American soil. Like everyone else.
I bet you you think that his ancestors were kidnapped by whites.
I'm a firm believer in throw what people say out the window and look at what they do. Marc is on TV in a "racist " country and he hasn't left.
What an embarrassing over simplification. Change your name
@@Ajsopranosrubberdux
I'll think about changing it when he and the rest of these idiots leave this "racist country."
@@commonsenselogic how us MLH a racisr
@@Ajsopranosrubberdux
What is a racisr?
Marc asked the right questions. Sometimes it's best just to let them talk, and the spoon fed talking points come flowing out.😂😂
If course things are better, but the system was never revamped, nor was restitution made. And, no, it's not welfare for those who believe that.
Um, why did we not include the EXACT same comment from Kamala Harris and Jim Clyburn?
Jim Clyburn actually lived through Jim Crow and said America is not a racist country.
What difference does it make who he interviews if his opinion is different have you ever asked hannity why he doesn’t interview Liz Cheney or Mitt Romney all are republicans who disagree stop deflecting
@@aliciarobinson8636 no deflection here. I only asked because I would have been very interested to see him question Jim Clyburn, who ACTUALLY lived under Jim Crow and ask HIM why he believes America is not a racist country. Kamala Harris as well.
I've noticed that he speaks in liberal vs conservative instead of black vs white.
@Kevin Wielgolaski it's both.
@Kevin Wielgolaski it's both man. Ppl have been deprived of wealth based on race.
@@bonitaapplebum0088 deprived not so much has the history of America made it more difficult yes
@@dagr8dwalo777 deprived. I said what I meant.
@@bonitaapplebum0088 ok if they are deprived is the deprivation a result of systemic racism
Will Mark hold Kamala Harris accountable like he is doing Uncle Tim?
No, Kamala Harris will never be held accountable for any of her actions or words. Since she is a liberal woman of color she is untouchable and above criticism.
She is the wrong party..Its a big con game get it
@@nealmike5490 Yep, I get it.
ITT: No one who has just ignored media bullshit and has actually read Kamala’s record as a senator.
www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/browse?sponsor=412678
@@chiefs816kc People criticize her solely over her time as a prosecutor, which was prior to her even being senator, where she was objectively one of the most progressive ones there, in some instances even being to the left of Bernie Sanders. I never voted for her in the primaries, but I’m tired of how easily misinformation spreads online and is encouraged by this point.
This wasn't fair. This guy isn't listening to understand he's just responding.
Not fair to who?
@@TheRTM not fair to the viewers or to the conservatives who ascribe to this same thought process.
@@whittle2k I disagree. Marc was more than fair and (I believe) didn’t push back hard enough.
@@TheRTM I wasn't making a critique of Dr Hill. My point is the conversation doesn't do anything but point out that the conservative is unreachable. I've seen a number of them speak on racism and they all talk themselves into the same corners. That tells me they're speaking based on a scripted response log and not critically thinking on their own.
Just wow. He has on blinders to say that race is not systemic.
He does and it’s because he trying to make sense out of his surroundings. He fooled himself into believing that things aren’t as bad as seem as a way to navigate through the world.
Could you name which are the systems that practice racism? Thanks! How do they get away with that in2021? It is obviously against the law.
Marc Lamont Hill knows what to do to becomes a successful black man in America. He's done it, he knows what works. But he won't tell our young men. He purposely will not give our young men that information.
@@drewood740 He does, just because he doesn't speak on it or advertise it publicly doesn't mean he's not doing anything. He sends to people to college each year with full scholarships... see, if folks like you read more and stay off social media platforms you'll know this!
@@julian65886 The judicial system, banking systems, housing, Healthcare,... do I need to go further or this gives you a clear enough example?
No matter how beautiful ppl think the "house" may look, the foundation was built with blood and bones and the stench cannot be hidden with febreeze.
So there's no need for reparations then.
@@zubversivezigotto9731 And how does that pertain to what I said?
ugh. this was painful egotistical gaslighting. made me cry.
Ikr. This guy was disgustingly lying.
The race hustling industry has been extremely lucrative for MLH
Not as much than beady bead Candy or Tom Sewell/Jesse lee/Larry Elder.
So many people in the political - social arguments think something is true because they said it. They site studies with no names, they quote people with no names, quote articles with no titles, read articles but can't remember where. The only people convinced by that are people who already agree with you. MLH and so many others argue their OPINION because they can't produce and more importantly can't PROVE their facts.
Let’s all play victim. When we aren’t getting married, having children out of wedlock. Not graduating, and idolizing rap culture.
That look at 13:12 was everything lmao
Indeed!😂
Marc was like, "my work here is done. "
That had tilt with 30 second left 😂😂
Tim Scott has always been a tap dancer
Biden supporters n democrats are the biggest tap dancers.
@@marohan You sound crazy. Owens, Jesse Lee, and Larry are the most disgusting sell outs I have ever seen.
@@nofacade100 you most likely voted for Biden. Save your outrage.
@@marohan You most likely voted for Trump so you do the same
You just can’t handle the truth 🤷🏻♂️
How can a country built on racism not be struggling from systemic racism. It literally makes no sense
Mark Lamont Hill is the greatest thing the BNC has done for conservative black people. His leftist bafoonery is epic. Did mark just help me coin a new word?
Also I think there was some new information regarding the idea of "uncle tom" that is in opposition to the idea trying to be conveyed.
Kamala Harris said the same thing in her rebuttal to Tim Scott’s speech. I can’t understand for the life of me why these two are clueless. They are unwillingly trying not to see the forest from the trees.
They are not clueless. This is a show for the vote. They are pampering Caucasian as they can't take the truth. But it's time we as persons of color believe in the truth. We have to swallow truth everyday like a large pill without water. At this time it is not my responsibility to comfort those who refuse to hear, see and accept the truth. As, people of color we value the truth.
It's all about the MONEY on both sides!!!!
Marc, I love your show, but when you go after your guests with the snark and the “gotcha” stuff, you undermine your argument. Also, please post references to the sources you cite. It would be nice to see debates that are more cogent and more generous with the guests. Keep up the good work, these debates are needed.
You can easily go research the key words in the studies he mentioned yourself. For example, searching "sentencing disparities" will give you numerous articles and studies. Same for "black/white suspension rates in K-12". Those articles will include links to the actual studies.
You can easily look the references yourself. Regarding the “gotcha” moments, that’s literally what a debate is about.
"Its a debate but can you please refrain from noting when the person you're debating roundabout agrees with you especially when he's completely incapable of comprehending the fact that he has indeed agreed with you". Bruh what 😂.
Marc was as pleasant as he could be considering he didn't drop a whole hammer on the poor guy when buddy effectively conceded to Marc's points multiple times. He simply made note of it and moved to the next point. He could've made a mockery of the gentleman but he simply made note and pushed on. Doesn't get any better in my opinion.
Also, anytime someone notes wildly accepted, data supported common knowledge and people request sources it feels silly. It's actually innocently nauseating. CDC for the health stats. FBI for the conviction statistics. Bureau of Labor for employment and wage statistics. Etc.
At this point if you don't know the basics you should start with self study of DISPARITY first, be it these are very old undisputed basics. THEN, after you've established a sufficient base of knowledge on the facts, watch the next level discussions on the topic. Not the other way around. Self study is the prerequisite for qualified competence and comprehension in all discussions. Too many people skipping steps with confident opinions, like this guest, and that is literally one of the biggest obstacles to making change on the issue. The entire country should know these data points by heart by now and exactly where to find the proof. This is disheartening to say the least.
Who doesn't know these softball facts Marc used in 2022? There are very few peered reviewed and widely accepted rebuttals to these facts and the public have been privy to the information proving they are facts for decades now. Specifically the pain meds stat for black women in hospitals. Why list the thousands of published and officially over-refetenced sources for something that should be common sense to all educated individuals with interest in the topic? Especially when you don't even need access to a collegiate library database to find the data with footnotes and bibliography trails already available for public viewing? If you can RUclips you can Google. These are 5 second Google searches. 5 seconds! Very sad how lazy we've become when it comes to how we digest information. It is the viewers responsibility to substantiate the data claims when the data is elementary.
Example:
I can't waste time as an econ reporter teaching the formula for GDP. If you don't know how GDP is calculated you're not ready to delve into econ discussions of any sort. 101 level items shouldn't be an obstacle the listener has to overcome to follow a conversation. That's why you have prerequisites in college. If you failed algebra you can't move on to 400 level econ courses. It's all higher level algebra. Smh. This is why we're not ranked high for education I guess. 😥
Furthermore, if someone has to tell you where to find this information you probably won't have the necessary education needed to follow the studies behind the data. Pretty complex stuff when it comes to the abstracts describing the controls that validate the results of the studies the conclusive data comes from. This is not a jab, just the truth family. Be well.
The young man spoke of the problem being ideological and not racism, but correct me if I am wrong; racism is an ideal that was and is currently being practiced by a great portion of America!
When he said, “how about we vote to elect a different builder! That will build differently instead of voting for the same party and only getting symbolism instead of substance” That changes the structure and gives us something different than what we continue to accept.
THAT PART!
Keisha Marie
That's called the Black Conservative agenda talk. Black Conservatives refuse to admit that they are embracing the party of White Nationalists, they try excusing this by trying to manipulate others blacks into thinking they can do better by following their example
The only option in that scenario that would make sense would be a 3rd party.
I’ve made it a point to never engage these types. And the seldom times I do, when out of sheer boredom or a need to procrastinate on my grad studies, I ask them to explain why this is happening and laugh at the random explanations they have.
Don't you find it funny though, that the further in time we progress, the more obscure "racism" becomes? Now racism is bandades and wearing earrings.. BLM can hardly find an incident to riot about.. their 1-12 now.. and hoax hate crimes are more prevalent than actual hate crimes. Like dude said, blacks have never lived in a system as wealthy and free as they have now.
@@davidlenz9902 im sorry that a big lie black people here in America was apart of the igbo and Fulani which before the time of slavery both had their own land,food, and government idk how do you compares that to being privileged in a country we do not own ? If you’re black you know that feeling of fear u get while being pulled over by police yeah thats not privilege listening to our people say we’re privileged hurts like a mf we’re literally so lost and brainwashed by definition privileged is a another way of allowing you to do something being a grown ass man and stating that your privileged is embarrassing
@@dlou9547 Blacks don't get killed more by police.. they are killed in less than a 1:1 ratio with police interactions, meaning of a cop were to interact with 10k white people and 10k black people, he's more likely to kill a white person.. only when you compare it to total population does it seem like blacks are killed at a higher percentage, but from the cops perspective, he doesn't kill blacks more than any other races, in fact he again kills whites at a higher rate when you account for interactions. That's not oppression, that's actually exactly what a reasonable person would expect to find in the data. You may feel this way or that way when getting pulled over, but emotions isn't reality.. in fact, you feel that way mostly because of the media. Last year only 9 unarmed black men were killed by police, mostly all of those were questionable. I've known all this literally the day after Mike Brown was killed.. I just looked up FBI crime tables by race. I'm all for Equality and people and institutions not being racist, but when you have a angry, resentful political ideology that is founded on nothing but lies, then you can see everything is just exaggerated and deceitful.
Thats part of the problem. Nobody wants to talk about stuff with the other side. Just continue to bitch about it.
@@reignman4529 I’m down with talking but not with the intentionally obtuse. Waste of time.
It’s very hard trying to even apply the principle of charity in listening to Shakur. First, it would have saved much time if he had been asked to give a basic definition to the term “systemic racism”. I found it awfully hard to follow what emerged in the course. I found it a waste of time hearing him. As far as I am concerned there is none so blind as those who will not see, hence it’s a waste of time and a test of patience in hearing such persons.
He confuses legalized racism with systemic racism. He fails to understand that why the legal barriers of racism have been removed, nothing about the foundation of the country that is premised on racism has been removed. If America is not a racist country, how do we get Donald Trump, Ronald Reagan and many of these racists to become Presidents?
@@yawos9024 I wish Marc would have asked him about "Replacement Theory" LOL?
"Changing the system means that the system must be changed"....just breaking this brother's argument down. It shows that he agrees that there is systemic racism. He just doesn't realize that that is what it is called or is. He's in denial.
The man is a blank state. He is told to say this when this it that is uttered. He isn't trained to do critical analysis or think for himself.
Many of our people are.
The fact that the conservative guy basically starts by saying Blacks in America have more opportunities now than ever before is racist within itself. “More” opportunities. What about ALL THE SAME opportunities. Soooo fascinating that this is even a debate.
That guy is worse than Tim Scott, and clearly in denial. I personally don’t believe he really believes what he’s saying. Or perhaps he is being paid.
Just because this clearly oppressed man says “we know for a fact” doesn’t make it a fact.
No. The fact that it's a fact makes it a fact.
@@justwondering9287 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@maximuseffort8151 Disprove what he said.
@@maximuseffort8151 someone has a little fetish for MLH eh? Just going from video to video to video complaining and complaining. What makes something a fact is data, and not just one study, but decades of studies. But here's the thing minimum mental effort, you can't disprove a fact just by disagreeing with it. You need to provide sources and data and pee reviewed studies. Which I know you don't have and couldn't provide. But it's ok. We get it. You don't like African Americans putting on airs and being all intellectual, because it makes you feel inferior.
@@tanjianforever lol
MLH is the coldest most calculated diabolical destroyer of them All.....Just 2know of Him is 2Love HIM. Thank You
Yeah
His game is neat and tight 👍
Watching him, #UncleTim and Vernon Jones is like watching an episode of the Twil8ght Zone
There is no systemic racism… also this current government is racist against black conservatives 😂😂😂 politics are hilarious
Systematic racism towards black conservatives, just as the ‘suppression’ of the black Trump supporter vote, hence why Trump didn’t won. Dur.
Marc, Jim Crow is over, do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.
Is it really?
@@TSquared2001 yes, ive been here in Georgia for 21 plus years.
@@GabrielRodriguez-um8fi you are one person with one experience. You can't say that definitively
@@TSquared2001 how so?
This was a good healthy debate. No shouting. No demeaning. Right on Marc! CNN did themselves a disservice by letting u go. U were one of the main reasons I would tune in. ✊
It wasn't. This guy doesn't believe wars in front of him. No laws against it. But it goes on everyday
I love how MLH walks people from their point directly to his. That young man didn’t see it coming
He has to disconnect his mind too often
This dude reminds me of a Floyd Mayweather that can read
I’m pretty sure Mayweather is considerably more intelligent than you are.
If there is still work to be done, why hasn’t that also been eliminated
I support Brother Shakur he's on point. It's time for blacks to accept responsibility for changing their lives, there has never been a better time for blacks to get ahead than today, period, but we can't seem to get beyond this sense of dependency. We talk about black wall streets of the past and it goes over our heads, we had black wall streets when whites were at their worst and when the government was at it's worst in securing our civil rights, we really don't need Democrats or Republicans, we need to take off the blinders and recognize that opportunity is before our eyes.
"Just because there are cracks in the system doesn't mean the entire system needs to be replaced"
Cool, just make sure you remember that sentiment when your buddies bring up obamacare and voting rights
America is so not racist that he has to dress,think,act and talk white for social mobility. 🤣
Can you list for me the ways in which a black person SHOULD dress, think, talk and act? And if after being given this list, I go out into the world and compare black people to living (or not) up to this list...would that be racist? Because if your list is accurate, then we can form a stereotype of your characterised black person and it's all good! What do you think?
@@ancientfuture9690 I dont have to do that. You just have to ask yourself if black people today have the same culture as their slave ancestors. You will see how much they have assimilated into European American culture. The blacks in the Caribbean still have some of their culture in tack. It's only in the U.S.A that they do not know.
@@ancientfuture9690 You can't tell the difference because of assimilation. If you go to countries like Kenya,Ethiopia or Ghana you will see the difference. It's only in the U.S.A black people are fully assimilated into European american culture. I am only saying people just need to be themselves. No one is superior to the other. No culture is superior.
You understand what I am saying brother man?
@@moneycryptocurrency1024 Why don't you stop being vague ? How are black people supposed to act ? What does acting and being white mean ?
This guy is delusional!
If it's unintentionally then it's NOT racism!!!
Watching this again as it popped up on my feed. So just like Larry Elder's complaint that America isn't systemically racist, but the RNC systemically excluded him from being able to take part in the debates, this gentleman makes the same argument. It's amazing that it's only systemic when it's done against black conservatives. Brilliant line of questioning, MLH,. They believe saying that "oh, but it's done by 'white liberals'" is a answer that disproves the claim. And MLH's sly grin, and Roland Martin similar response, hints to the fact that regardless of what label you want to put on those responsible, it's still systemic racism.
It is so sad how some people act when someone thinks differently from them. Calling another black man a racial slur proves that those who would call Mr. Tim Scott that phrase are racist. Forgiveness is needed in the hearts of people.
The soul of America is racist its in the fabric of the flag which screams white man blue eyes and red blood so for anyone 👀 to say anything different is committed to being misleading with intent to distribute true lies