Author Coleman Hughes on Why He Opposes Reparations
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Marc Lamont Hill sits down with author and podcaster Coleman Hughes to discuss his stance against giving reparations to Black Americans.
He’s told Congress that the reparations bill H.R. 40 is a “moral and political mistake.”
“I think there’s a degree to which people born today are appropriating the struggles of our ancestors,” Hughes says.
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I appreciate that the host let him finish the point and kept the dialog going. It was refreshing to watch.
Ok reparations for Jim Crowe then. But by his mentality, all you have to do is wait someone out.
Absolutely
Nope not even that. Reparations just because we have a subconscious dislike for white people. Be honest.
or they make some immoral law to avoid doing whats right
The demand for reparations is made on the government not on individuals.
Exactly
And from whom does the government get the money?
@@chukwuezugooranu185 Federal Reserve
@@mikev6046 correct. The govt just prints money to pay things.
@@chukwuezugooranu185 the same place they get it to fund NASA, Dept of Defense, Foreign Aid, etc.
It’s ALWAYS money for that, right?
Have him sign a form that he declines his reparation payment. Move on. He speaks for himself.
HERE HERE!!!...and, well said...he does NOT speak for the wanna REST of US.
@Made from the dust of the ground NO...hes puerto rican and since he failed the paper bag test(hes no AOC), hes CAPPING for blacks now.
He isn’t Black. He changed his last name. He is Puerto Rican or Dominican.
@@Cyndi72 there are black Puerto Ricans and black Dominicans, what's wrong with you?
@@crubie3 Reparations given by the USA government are descendants of slaves in the USA not just people of the African diaspora.
I have never heard of a Jewish or Japanese person speak against reparations for their own people.To hear a black American do so illustrates the kind of damage that slavery has done to black people.
@D Foot : I wholeheartedly agree . GD
He's not one of us!
He’s Afro Latino, most of the Black Latinos people don’t consider themselves Black. And I’m sure he doesn’t use the term Afro Latino.
@@Phoenicianx666x l dont agree with Coleman on Reparations. HOWEVER, his father is African American and he does have ancestors that were slaves. He does have a number of Conservative views. Yet he is not the same as extreme sensationalized charlatans like Candice Owens., Larry Elder, Officer Brandon Tatum, Jericho Green or the highly ridiculous Diamond and Silk or the insult unapologetic exploiter of African Americans Jesse Lee Petersen. Coleman is intelligent and has a difference in policy than many liberals. One of the best things about him, He did not vote for Trump. Voted for Biden.
@@Phoenicianx666x
It's not just so-called "Conservatives," since I'm also considered Conservative; nevertheless, I'm additionally under no illusions about the fact, that a debt is owed, due to Chattel Slavery... The Leftist are in fact, the real problem, historically; and it's also about time, that Black people begin to wake up, to that reality.
Coleman Huges is not a doctor, a professor, or even a researcher on the matter black history or reparations. He's a failed rapper who's not a descended of black america, and who found out that he can make money off of spouting anti-black republican talking points. I'm saying that to say why do even care what he has to say?
I don't understand how black immigrants and their children think they have the right to speak for us. Just by what he was saying I knew he wasn't ADOS. Do Black and Brown immigrants and their children not realize if it wasn't for us (ADOS) they wouldn't be here?
@@Tyreseboom as a Black woman of Caribbean immigrants I favor reparations for Black Americans. It was not just slavery; it was Tulsa, Atlanta,etc. It's a lot of things.
@@Girlforaction Thank you.
@Joel Harvey He's clearly not a researcher if is arguments about why a certain group of people do not deserve reparations because many of the victims have passed away, however, neglecting jews and their grandchildren still get reparations even though America did not commit the holocaust . This is intentional ignorance, researchers let alone people with common sense do not do this.
also Ronald Reagan signed a bill giving reparations to Japanese American's who survived the the WWII internment camps which in effect in 1990
Yea, that money was paid to LIVING survivors, NOT descendants. It was also unconstitutional to detain citizens without due process, as established by supreme court in 1944. This means the japanese, at the time, were recognized as citizens, with rights when they were unlawfully detained. Slaves didnt have rights nor were they recognized as citizens.
Japanese internment and slavery are not equivalent. They are completely independent of each other with different dynamics.
Yeah, they refused our forefather’s requests and in fact continued to oppress them, so now we - their descendants are owed.
@@Sciences0311
Why is the United States still making payments to relatives of the American Civil War? Irene Triplett (now deceased) didn’t fight in the Civil War. Lester McClain (Black American) is 71 years old (alive and well) is the paternal grandson of former slave (two generations removed from chattel slavery). Why isn’t McClain receiving reparations?
@@cooper482011 This post is about why Japanese internees were paid reparations. You have no valid argument against my statement so you deflect away to Irene Triplett, whom received a pension, which indicates you dont understand the difference between a pension and reparations payment. They are NOT the same thing.
Lester is irrelevant. Irene was the DIRECT daughter of a veteran who was paid a pension for his service. She was also born mentally handicapped. She rated his benefit according to VERY specific criteria that had been established before her father even died. Had she had any children, guess what? The benefit would have ended when Irene died.
You are essentially arguing that a honda accord an F-22 fighter jet are the same because they both have engines.
@@Vernonu9 wrong. If that were the case, then people with Neanderthal blood are owed reparations for the complete genocide of their ancestors.
“…I’m not necessarily interested in America’s soul. I’m interested in my pockets…”
-Mark Lamont Hill
Why would any country pay a scumbag that would say that about a country he lives in ?
“America ain’t got no soul”
What was the entire quote?
Bottom line!
This is why he doesn’t care about tearing us further apart.
Is it morally right for the families and companies to keep the wealth they acquired from slavery?
That was heavy!
no
I love that!
Well if that was the case you would have to literally date back every single person’s family that benefitted from slavery, because there is evidence that every single race has benefitted from slavery. And also every single race has also been enslaved in America. So what happens if my moms side owned slaves but my dads side was enslaved. What happens there? Left pocket paying the right pocket? It’s way to complicated. America isn’t responsible for slavery, slavery has been around for 3500+ years, way before European countries adopted it, the only thing America is responsible for is making slavery a racial one, but even before it turned racial they had I believe around one million white slaves to 8-9 million blacks slaves, once blacks and whites teamed up then it became racial, so slavery was initially a classism issue turned racist.
@@Christorment5 You must have been real high when you wrote this. Every race benefited from slavery? One million whites enslaved in America? America isn’t responsible for slavery in America? Yeah I’m gonna just write this one off as you being really high!!!
How's this dude gonna use jews and the holocaust as an example when THEY GOT REPARATIONS 🤔🙄 its a moot point... at least you tried.
I think it’s a fair point if one group as well as the Japanese got reparations why is it then not fair for blacks to get it seeing as though they built the US for free
They got a whole country. A country that is backed by western nations powers and has a leading economy.
I'm surprised he didn't challenge him on that point.
Because it was the 'Survivors' of the Holocaust... Not Jews generally or Jews 70 years later. The SURViVORS! Same with the Japanese who were in internment camps. The SURViVORS got reparations...
You don't have to agree with his argument. But at least understand it!
This is why Lamont argued the "effects" of Slavery on blacks today. Meaning, even Lamont doesn't think it's a viable argument unless you can show that there is a lingering effect.
The issue then becomes how much of the conditions of black folks generally today is as a result of the lingering effects of Slavery?
Let's follow the arguments being made by both side logically and not just pupu one side to suit our ego :(
@@diranshouse7061 well said
so what do they call the $7 billion dollars given to the families affected by September 11th....... compensation or reparations ?
Right
@@Uzzi2022 "right" what? The OP posed a disingenuously loaded question and your reply was "right"? Hmm.
You don’t give the 9/11 example, because those who oppose reparation will say “these family members are still alive.
That's right! I totally forgot about that! Our government didn't hesitate to repair those families. But if they were Black families payments would've never happened!
@@MPR2 You dont think black people died in 9/11? Oy vey
8:27 Coleman's Holocaust analogy fails because it happened in Europe and not in America. Jewish people escaped from Nazi Germany to find peace and prosperity in America, where they were perceived as "functionally white". This makes his comparison with the black American experience a false equivalence.
Not only that they received generational reparations there is no comparison except when you use the Jewish reparations template for us to receive our reparations as well
@@allenholliday7501 Agreed!
Not really.
You think that Jews during Jim crow were considered functionally white?
@@goth2415 Not me. American Jewish people have described themselves in that way. I'm sure there are anecdotal incidents in which they were oppressed. Still, the perception of the two groups were different under Jim Crow. If you could choose which ethnicity to be born as between black people and Jewish people, under Jim Crow, who would you choose to be and why?
Injury does not evaporate because an individual dies. The anti-reparations argument is silly because it works in no other context. Our legal system recognizes injuries that outlives individuals all of the time.
@Jonny Frye. I 100% agree with you. Also, the anti-reparations crowd always uses the narrative of "taking one groups money and giving it to another group". This makes no sense because our reparations will come from the U.S. Government, the same U.S. government who wrote the means by which slavery was upheld and supported into the U.S. Constitution.
@@halbleavy9900 the US government doesn't have money...they have the ability to tax.
@@mrpipps90 I know, they used to get it from slave labor.
@@halbleavy9900 hurr durr good one.
@Cori's Closet Where do you think the money to break away from King George III came from? It came from TRADE, please read about the Trade Triangle. If slavery was not important to America then why was the support of it written into the U.S. Constitution? That's not a cop out answer, that is a real answer. If you want to speak of cop outs then let's discuss the "I did not have slaves and you were not a slave" excuse. Your comment actually makes the case for a Critical Race Theory curriculum requirement.
Coleman Hughes the underwear ing pole dancer from Puerto Rico
@YteAmericansAreRacists ruclips.net/video/7cu6j7LArxw/видео.html
OK Black News Channel, when are you going to interview a pro REPARATIONS person. What is the position of the Black News Channel on reparations?
This network work is owned by a Pakistani man. As you know Pakistanis are very anti-black. Mark Lamont Hill's lineage is Jamaican.
The Black News Channel should not have a position because Black people have different opinions on the subject and we are not monolith.
@@lisah8438Yes, descendants of slaves are creative on an individual basis. We all have different career aspirations, too. But when the middle black family's net worth is only $1,700 (when you do not include the family cars and furniture), we're absolutely a monolith economically, compared to the middle white family who''s worth $116K. These numbers are based on 2013 data and the numbers have increased since then. But I'm still using this framework because I think it's fitting considering we're still in a pandemic and haven't seen the fallout from that yet. For the full report, Lisa, you can visit: prosperitynow.org/files/PDFs/road_to_zero_wealth.pdf
@von Anthony You sound surprised. The company is bankrolled by the owner of the Jacksonville Jaguars, a Palestinian - American billionaire. The COO is a white guy. The CEO and founder, a white guy, resigned 2 months after the network launched (after working on it for 10 years). The co- founder, black former Republican Congressman JC Watts is serving as INTERIM CEO (until a suitable CEO can be installed). Black News channel is a company that targets the black community. Mr. Hill isn't hosting a reparations debate. This channel was created to control the narrative. Reparations isn't a debate, it's a debt that's been due long before Coleman and many others opposing it had an opinion.
Yes get Dr. Claud Anderson and Dr. Umar Johnso up there they will tell you a thing are two about how reparations work for Black people. Not this wet face baby hughie that definitely do not speak for African Americans!!
My issue with his stance is we have atrocious acts recently that impact us today. Racism in housing, redlining, banking, jobs, local and in federal institutions are ingrained in our society today. Reparations doesn't need to just focus on slavery.
ADOS Focus is on slavery and Jim Crow This is owed to us and this would help level the playing field somewhat
Hughes is in favor of reparations for living victims of Jim Crow/redlining. It's just when it gets many generations away that he is skeptical.
@@aaronMattJohn That’s because he knows he would not receive reparations if it goes back to slavery because his lineage would not fit the narrative and the harm and injustice Of our people our claim is for Jim Crow and slavery but you must trace it back to slavery
Agreed ... there is recent harm that may be traceable. Some folks had their property taken from them and they have the deed. There should absolutely be reparations to those clear cut cases. I don't agree with everything Coleman was saying, but it is a valid to at least say "it's complicated" if not impossible to recompense fairly.
I am 1.2% African according to 23&Me ... so should I get a check representing 1.2% of a whole person? What about people who lost their lives due to slavery? Shouldn't they and their offspring receive retroactive damages for wrongful death? How about people that were maimed?
Then reparations should be paid to gay couples, Jews, Asians etc. who have also been negatively affected by those non-slavery things...?
We need "Black Immigrants" like C. Hughes, who is Afro-Puerto Rican, to stop sabotaging our politics/business.
What, he's Puerto Rican, I thought he was a caucasian
@@kevinwhite5872 uhhh... that’s kinda racist you jackass
It's owed.
Coleman's Holocaust point proved to me that he doesn't know what he is talking about.
@Hardway Harrison : I don’t agree with his position concerning reparation. Any living black people deserved it. After all, America was built by sweat and blood of black people regardless what year they was born.
It would have been appropriate for Marc to respond to the question with 'because the Jews AND their relatives received AND receives reparations sir!'
09:15
No it would not. That argument would only work in GERMANY.
@@blackmenachievellc3770 Wrong, since AMERICA actually helps Germany pay those annual reparations.
Excellent discussion! Both gentlemen disagreed respectfully and articulated their views with respect. This is a model of the dialogue we need to have more often.
SORRY, TO MANY LIES WERE IN THE DIALOGUE OF Coleman Hughes. HIS DIALOGUE WAS VERY TWISTED. MY QUESTION IS HOW IS A PUERTO RICAN GOING TO SPEAK FOR ME AND MY PEOPLE. WHEN MOST DON'T EVEN CONSIDER THEMSELVES BLACK OF FRICAN MERICAN, EVEN IF THE ARE SO CALLED HALF BLACK. EVERY SINGLE PUERTO RICAN, THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY, TELLS ME THEY PUT PUERTO RICAN OR WHITE ON THE OFFICAL PAPER WORKS. SO THIS CHILD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUTH FOR ME NOR MINE FAMILY.
Model dialogues aren't the archetype for change 👍
Jews don't need another apology. Why on earth is an immigrant so loudly speaking against black americans?
What Coleman Hughes is saying, let the companies and the government off the hook because the "staute of limitations" has expired. Coleman is obviously misinformed and "out of touch" with the plight of ADOS.
Government deliberately dragged its feet and refused to give black people restitution.
I wouldn't say he's out of touch, he just wouldn't qualify. He's not an ADOS so he wouldn't be a recipient. Take note how the Black ppl speaking against Reparations it wouldn't qualify anyway. This guy's ppl came from Puerto Rico, Candace Owens' ppl came from the Caribbean, etc.
The one main aspect of the Reparations debate that continuously gets overlooked, is the fact that it's a REPAIRING of the wrong that's been done to US as Foundational Black Americans.
This guy is not even a foundational Black American. He use to identify as Hispanic until he found a way to grow his pockets.
Amen
What does this mean? I can identify as a White person all I want, or even Hispanic or Asian, I am still VERY Black. What would make him a 'foundational Black American' is genetic regardless of what he chooses to identify himself?
@@hollygoodtree8902 What would make him a foundational black American?..His lineage
That's so true.
Really? He use to ID as Hispanic.
His feelings don't matter. He doesn't qualify anyway. That's why he's against it. He's not grassroots, he's from Puerto Rico. Man please
Ahh so because of his ethnicity, his opinions dont matter. Whos the racist?
I am so sick of these youngsters thinking they know what is really going on. It is immoral that all of our ancestors free labor created generation wealth for not only pass generations but present day white America as well. Black people get the butt of being pushed out of the social and economic systems of the WORLD. Coleman Hughes you are not making any sense EVERY ONE has gotten reparations Indians, Japanese, Jews and most recently the Asian community. But you have a problem when it comes to Black people receiving reparations. This man is so delusional to believe that racism ended in 1865. Open your eyes as well as your head it just reinvent itself by other names. Poor housing, poor educational and healthcare systems, no jobs, police brutality, mass incarceration and the list goes on. Hello it takes wealth and resources to fix the issues in the black community so you sound so grossly misinformed. He is another Coodace Owen's more sellouts is definitely not what the Black communities need. Throw this one back to we do not need this in our black neighborhoods.
@@luluseals2767 I agree with you. This boy is really out of touch, he need a bit of history lessons.
Exactly Eugene
@@MrRockapoodle72 no, simpleton. Why would someone who would not receive reparations based exactly on where he is from discuss reparations? Do news networks ask black people from Detroit about their views on Israel Palestine land boundaries and strife? No, because their views are irrelevant. Asking a Puerto Rican about black American reparations makes no sense. I’m Caribbean, and discussing the counter to black people from America getting restitution is treacherous, and this context of his origin should not be taken lightly.
Reparations goes beyond slavery. Blacks didnt get full rights till 1965. His biggest complaint is slavery happened too long ago. He claims to want to address current society problems, which requires addressing the root cause of the problem. How do you address the root cause without actually looking at the root cause?
So the tax money of everyone in America, including poor non-whites, should go to blacks?
@@pheeel17 isn't that how the government works? Collects tax dollars and allocates them accordingly
Slavery didn’t happen “along time ago” it happened 170 years ag, that’s two 70 year old black women living and dying back to back. - Luis CK
@@erilynn370 yes for services that are benefit to the whole community or those in need. Last I checked, poor people are in need, not black people specifically. Unless you're saying all black people are poor
Are you black by the way?
What he needs to understand is that the same wealth that is in the system, the same poverty is still there also. This goes back to slavery til today.
So you're trying to say Jeff bezos Warren Buffett and Mark Cuban the Walton family the CEO of McDonald's Dunkin donuts KFC all these billionaires benefit it from slavery 🤔⁉️
What a fucking joke. Latinos have passed blacks in wealth and home ownership, and 12 million of them aren't even legal. They came over the border from poorer conditions than your privileged ass can even imagine and built wealth in a single generation, so don't give me this slavery BS excuse
Churches in all ghettos broke folks giving money on the collection plate
No it doesn´t
OK,THEN LET'S NARROW IT DOWN FOR SAKE OF THE ARGUMENT, INDIVIDUALS BORN THROUGH 1969 SHOULD RECEIVE REPARATIONS . BECAUSE THEY WERE DIRECTLY AFFECTED . AND YES THAT'S ME, AND I PREFER CASH INSTEAD OF PROMISES.
Thank you so much for providing a fair and civil platform for discussing issues that are deeply divisive and fundamentally important.
You typify the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
Isn’t he Puerto Rican? If so why he’s in this conversation?
What's your point 👉? He Puerto 🇵🇷 Rican and Puerto Ricans are Americans.
@@abbassaquee286 but american chattel slavery, Jim Crow, Red Lining, ETC did NOT happen to his lineage. So, he needs to shut the hell up.
Salaams shaykh Dawud you in west Philadelphia?
Black people can be Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican isn't a race.
Puerto Rican’s are not ADOS! Puerto Rican’s were enslaved by Spain. Why is he speaking as if his ancestors suffered the same atrocities as mine in America. No wonder he’s oppose reparations he’s not eligible .
This is what happens when you allow the school system to teach history, misinformed young people.INCREDIBLE!!!
Nope. It's more of a critical thinking. If you listen to the whole thing from beginning to end and not snippets, you will get a better understanding of his views. I agree with his views on the topic. The money needs to be in place to help us, not a check. The issues will unfortunately still remain.
There’s no excuse. I was misinformed but once I see lies, I keep digging. I know that the people who wrote the textbooks are not my friend.
You think Coleman Hughes is misinformed? Big yikes.
@@willisverynice very
@@davruck1 interesting, how do you figure that?
Does he believe that nobody should get reparations or just black
Just black
Lol just black
Which black people? Carribean, Central American, Asiatic? How do we Determine who's ancestors were afflicted?
@@AlfonzeBear let's not put the carriage before the horse
@Horace Ward what were these reparations ?
🌟1st off Coleman hughes is not black.
He didn't consider himself black for years. 💯
Is he one of those blacks people that says if it's not white is not right.
He's one of those sell-outs?...What's he sellin?.
Coleman Hughes clearly don't have an understanding of reparations.
Cuz he’s not from here...he’s an imported Black like Candace Owens.
@@SsecnirpNamdor lies his father is African American!
@@jellybean5326 It would be ok if he was on their side of the spectrum. I have observed that pockets of this madness is starting to crumble. Don't front Jelly Bean ,dont fret!
He's getting paid by other sources to speak IGNORANCE.....
@@waynemarcelinsr.5045 I agree. Marc is on someones payroll.
Clinging to reparations is such a toxic distraction. Proven success recipe: #1 finish high school, #2 get a full-time job, and #3 wait until age 21 to get married and have children. The root of all evil? An epidemic of kids getting raised by a single-mother.
Now Marc Lamont Hill should interview Yvette Carnell or Antonio Moore!
Naw, Jason Black
You're right, Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore are needed in these conversations.
Neither Yvette or Antonio should be interviewed. The right person is Dr. Claud Anderson.
@@theblackhouse2698 No face that treats his callers like imbeciles? The Tariq flunky? No thanks.
No he shouldn't.
Y'all should be talking about reparations for slavery for the descendants of slavery. Enough said.
He personally would not receive reparations that’s why he speaking against it. He is a first generation immigrant to this country.
Not true
@@chrissmith3113 Yes true. What do you disagree with?
He's not 1st generation immigrant..he's descended from slave in America, therefore he would receive.
He is Puerto Rican and Jamaican
@@KandyGTV
Unu need fi stop make up stuff...yes, his mother Puerto Rican, but his father not Jamaican...he descend from slave in USA
No other race of people would speak against getting tangibles for their own people, we are still suffering from the effects of slavery in America, We need Compensatory Justice #FBA
That is a good point ,too many black sellout backstabbing conservatives exist,and need to be exposed and rejected.
I agree I would not ever speak against my people publicly. Im about using the freedom that was suffered for to make my own money and completely ignore people who are against my best interests.
Here we go again too many books behind him, read a lot of books and he doesn't even have it(the knowledge in this big head). Just ban him.
You don't ban people you disagree with , you debate them to find shared grounds. People of African origin are not monolithic, let's continue to have this discourse. I do not agree with his assertions but he has the right to hold that opinion. Empirically, his assertions hold no weight. Diverse opinion is fine.
@@unknownuknown436 What check reparation check ? Reparation does not mean individual black have go to bank and carrie big bag out with money, i do not trust money in my brother's hand,one month after they don't have money left just take this money and buy luxury and whiskey, i think All the money will buy land and build black business center, black tech center, black media center, sport center, chlidren traning center, only black dealen with this center.
create black own freemanson put them out around to track ours black intelligent people bring them to help build , spying sheeiiitt anywhere around the earth. enforce the laws of life on our own people, black sell out people we take them out quickly.
@@jonpaul3604hi Paul, you can discuss with some of your own who does't have it. Read many books ..little brain can never help. Just pretending to have it.
@9:10 now that’s power he was about to say something about Jewish Holocaust and the producer knew to shut that down were not allowed to talk about that lol
🤣😂🤣😭 I was like no Marc it's a trap!!!!! *catches bullet
I like that you caught that too. 👈👈
The Jews where inslaved in Africa for 1000 years then 6 million of them where slaughtered in Germany
What????? Coleman Hughes is not fully informed. Thankful You Mr. Hill for giving our young Brotha' some insight and clarity. B1
Please, Lamont is far from intelligent or informed himself. He is purely ideologically motivated.
This is an example of #4
Top 10 Techniques used to CONCEAL the system of white supremacy racism:
1. Denying: totally ignoring racism or simply asserting that racism does not exist.
2. Deflecting: insisting that any inequality is based on class, culture, ethnicity, family values… anything, but race. Or using words like “diversity” or “ethnicity” when you’re really talking about race -- because any acknowledgement of race may be an admission that there’s racism.
3. Coding: using certain words, symbols and images to evoke racial fears--but not explicitly mentioning race--so as not to appear racist. (Words such as “gang member,” “illegal alien,” and “welfare queen”--all frequently associated with images of people of color--are routinely and strategically inserted into policy debates. Political ads--such as President Bush Sr.’s use of the Willie Horton ad to conjure up white fears of black men, or former California Governor Pete Wilson’s ads of undocumented immigrants--were racist tools used to win elections.)
4. Confusing: cleverly having people of color act as spokespersons or leaders to promote and justify racist measures or deny that something is racist.
5. Personalizing: blaming individuals, instead of institutions, for anything that may seem unequal or racist.
6. Exceptionalizing: acknowledging that there may be an extremist or “bad apple” responsible for a racist act, but never conceding that there is any institutional accountability or systemic inequality.
7. Scapegoating: holding people who are adversely affected by racism responsible for their own plight, blaming things on their “pathological” value and lifestyles, such as laziness, promiscuity or lack of “personal responsibility.”
8. Mythologizing: appealing to the great American myths: anyone who tries can succeed (myth of meritocracy); everyone/everything is equal (myth of the level playing field), or race is irrelevant (colorblind myth), etc.
9. Decontextualizing: ignoring the context of racism so that things appear to be isolated incidents, rather than part of a pattern or bigger picture. The evening television news is notorious for this, portraying, for example, a violent crime in a black neighborhood without any examination of the causes or.context. Similarly, when white people raise charges of so-called “reverse racism,” it ignores history, white privilege and the ongoing existence of a very uneven playing field.
10. Lying: simply asserting that racism doesn’t exist even when you know it does. It’s easier to lie since telling the truth might mean having to admit responsibility. In fact, sometimes the bigger the lie, the more people believe it.
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The word "Black" scares so many people. It's always "we can't" when Black is mentioned.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
Studies show people are more receptive to African-American.
The word itself holds a lot of negative baggage in the English language.
Because we are not Black smart man!!! Why do we continue to address ourselves as something we are not??? Melinated people, or Originals is better. I am not a huge fan of African American because that is misleading. Elon Musk is technically African American. We are not Black, and Pale Europeans are bot white.
Also We don't need reprations for something that effected us 7 generations ago. Marc is such a tool. His interviews are just him trying to find minor flaws in people arguments to exploit those flaws. Thats why he ask specific questions that he already have a response to. Smh
But of course, "black" people fall for these word salad's most of the time. Have you ever heard Thomas Sowells wise case against reparations??? If you are open i can send you a link. But if you drink the Kool-aid too much of the left i would guess you want no parts. Smh
@@dayaaron87 >>> Elon Musk is South African - American.
AA is specific American descendants of enslavements.
I would be classified as Nigerian-America for example, not African-American.
Like Henry Clarke said. Your identity must indicate, land, language and culture.
@@itumo2645 first off, you are probably a true Nigerian. Secondly, mad honor to Dr Clarke and I equalstand what he meant. But he also called all original people from Africa but we are not all from Africa. So I respectfully disagree with that. But clearly, he is way smarter than me. But that's why I think Original people/Melinated people is a more proper way of describing us people.
This crime was done by the same government that we are in today
Marc giving this non-ADOS a platform is disingenuous. Marc is of Jamaican descent and the other is Puerto Rican. SMH
Only black enough when useful. May the lord forgive you
Lol only one of his parents is Puerto Rican; the other is AA. That actually perfectly encapsulates one of the problems with reparations…who gets paid?
@@TriteNight1218, nonsense. If you can directly trace your ancestry to a plantation in the U.S., you're eligible. No , not distant relatives.
Rembert Seaward don't be surprised, see the owners.
@@danielakalamudo4360 he's only been calling himself black recently. For the previous years he's referred to himself as Latino. So he should not be speaking on this issue as an ADOS person he should be addressing the issue as a Afro Latino.
"I'm not interested in America's soul, I'm interested in my pockets." 🙃
BNC stop putting clowns like this on this network. Just cut the check
The clowns want handouts
faire yep just like the white did for 400 years
4:59 This is a fair point. The issue, though, becomes fraught. Slavery was just one part of an ongoing policy of disenfranchisement. Making the case that any present-day claim is immoral sounds reasonable in the abstract, but works in reality to further enable policies that disenfranchise along racial lines. Similarly, a reparations claims seems to be very limited in its scope in the abstract, but the working out of reparations in policy, law, and social custom forces a confrontation of the factors that contribute to racial oppression. I think Hughes is mostly sincere, but philosophy is not just about universal moral imperatives, but about understanding human behavior in context. His arguments are more a pass than a moral argument.
hes an overintellectualized moron.
Reparations isn't about solving societal problems of today.
That isn't the intent.
Reparations should correct the financial damage imposed by slavery.
Not make black people morally better.
Money doesn't do that.
Fully Agree!
It's also about what happened after slavery. 3 major affirmative action by the govt that created wealth and helped build/create white the middle class.
1) the Homestead act of 1962. Applicant could acquire ownership of government land or the public domain, typically called a homestead. In all, more than 160 million acres of public land, or nearly 10 percent of the total area of the United States, was given away free to 1.6 million homesteaders
2) GI Bill 1944. For education after WW2
3)VA/FHA 1944. Home loan for small business and home ownership.
only about 2-4% went to non whites, because of they were written.
The 1950s saw the boom of the white only suburbs and creation of wealth, through home ownership.
So when people talk about I didn't own slaves and you weren't a slaves Don't fall into that trap, because regardless of slavery white people had the advantage of those affirmative action programs.
One solution besides a direct payment is. Put money back into the public school system in Urban areas. Give low to no interest loan on small business and homes. Lower credit scores since many bank and credit cards unfairly gave us higher rates which caused more foreclosures among black people that whites. That's a start. Banks will always make money.
@@TChalla007 All you mention is good. The damage from those acts is only magnified with slavery as a foundation.
As for our schools, all the money in the world means less if you are not willing to teach the truth. Let's get to true education not indoctrination.
Then add money.
@@TChalla007 exactly right again. Also, let's not forget the countless black communities like Tulsa, where our ppl created successful and thriving businesses without govt assistance. Their reward was the complete destruction and murder by jealous and angry white mobs.
@@ymmagic1074 First thing white people think of is how they will be portrayed. "You're teaching my children to hate themselves" Yet they have hated our looks, hair, question our intelligence. Back before the 90s Hollywood would never greenlight a movie on black romance, black excellence. Only violence, exploitations. I never knew the first to program an IBM computer for Nasa were black women, the first black millionaire was black woman. Paul revere had a black counter part, Wentworth Cheswell, that went the other direction also saying the British are coming. As a black man from Calif with a degree in economics. I didn't know any of this. Hell, we were never taught about Black Wall Street and I grew up in Berkeley and Oakland.
Hughes is really intelligent, really skilled, and really directed at his goal. He must be the biological stepson of Thomas Sowell.
Thomas Sowell 😂😂😂 same bullshit message, different package.
He is a Puerto Rican an has no say in REPARATIONS.
@@elijahf8 In what way is Sowell's message bullshit?
@@VoleWade What's your point? No one has any say in reparations?
Why are you talking to this clown? He doesn’t even reference the homestead act, gi bill, Japanese Internment camp payments, and payments to Holocaust survivors. These are all forms of capital based assistance from the government that is on the basis of race and origin. You should spend your time talking to people who can articulate the importance of reparations FIRST. Where is the proponent? Why would you entertain the opposition first?
Lamont himself is the proponent.
Iran contra scandal happened in my life time. That was a crime. Then there's red lining that happen in my father lifetime. Then there's Jim Crow that happen in my grandfather life time. Making slavery the focus of reparations is short sighted.
Somebody is still here from lynchings
only choosing to remember certain historical moments to match your grievances, is what? war mongering perhaps, maybe just not taking responsibility. The normal behavior for the human condition is for tribes to fight/kill each other, ethics is what conquered that. Choosing to live in the past is the best way to give up your free will, which is why Coleman makes sense.
Exactly. Slavery and Jim Crow oppression is why we are fighting for reparations. The injustices didn’t end with slavery. I’m the first generation in my family born after Jim Crow and my parents are still here. In fact when my father was born, there we still people alive who were born into slavery. So, saying this all happened too long ago is just nonsense.
@@AstroSquid
"Forgive us our debts, as we Forgive those who are indebted to us".
But first comes an acknowledgement of debt. A calculation of the debt. Forgiveness asked for that debt and a recognition of him to whom ALL debts are DUE! 🌍 ✡✝️☪️💥
@@AstroSquid We are talking financial recompense. When you look at the data ADOS are at the bottom of so many statistics that are directly related to the lack of wealth that our forefathers were legally disallowed for earning. I don't hate, dislike, or distance myself from anyone based on what happens at birth. However that doesn't mean that compensation for crimes past can't fix problems that currently exist. My original statement points out that crimes against ADOS are so much deeper than just slavery. And that's just 3 additional crimes each worthy of it's own reparations. And there's plenty more.
We need all of what he said plus payments. Was it a 'moral mistake to pay reparations to the Jewish, Native American, Japanese, and Mexicans? If blacks shouldn't get reparations then all families that continue to generate wealth of the labor of blacks should have ALL their assets taken away and those who were recipients of reparations should have to pay them back.
Soo how about!!!!
Real talk: how about you comunity man the f up and fix your own neighborhood and culture instead of asking for a handout. Its weak and pathetic. Beggingng will not solve any problems it will make u more dependent on the state and nothing will change.
@@Zgembo121 it's a debt not "hand out".
You forgot one group. White slave owners got reparations for the lost of property (slaves).
@Zgembo12 may I ask you a couple of questions? Do you think America should have lived up to their promise of 40 acers and a mule? Do you believe that giving slave onwers reparations for lost of property (slaves) was the right thing to do (because that is what happened)? Do you believe that the
Japanese, Native Americans and Jews deserve reparations (because they got them)? Do you believe in pulling yourself up by the boot straps? If you do explain to me how you do that when you have no boots at all? Do you believe in generational wealth and do you unstand how that is created? Can you tell me if you were enslaved and then suddenly freed with just the clothes on your back and not a penny to your name. In a country where half the people did not even think of you as human, who kidnapped, raped, murderd and ripped your family apart by selling your wife, huspand or child to someone else never to be seen again how you would have faired out? Even when we built something together do you know what jealous angry white people did? They burned down whole towns of black people. This country was built on the back of our ancestors their blood, sweat and tears! From the start if this country have live up to it's promise we would not be having this conversation. They want to pay others for what they felt was the wronged that happened to them but the black people who was brutalized who build this joint for free? No they can't do that! That day is coming I am not my ancestors, my children are not me and my grandchildren wont be them!
Using reparations logic; victims of drive by shootings may recoup damages from the shooter's parents/grandparents.
The answer is simple, he’s a foreigner and not FBA. Therefore he wouldn’t qualify for reparations in America and can be easily used as a WS in blackface to voice of opposition.
Also. This guy has a video of himself dancing round a train in his underwear... that should basically be all we care about his option on this matter.
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Or he could just be someone with an opinion you disagree with. He has legitimate points that need to be addressed.
Attempts to malign the character of someone who disagrees with you is poor form.
@@diranshouse7061 his opinion is irrelevant and nothing more than the opinion given to him by his white handlers, similar to Candice Owens. Also, he doesn’t have the pedigree to be given a platform to voice said opinion.
Coleman does not know what he is talking about and he can continue to cite from other Scholars it does not mean anything. First of all you have people in their teens right now still follow the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and sing the Pledge of allegiance of the flag that was created 200 years ago! If the 1980's Black's can't receive Reparations for being 5th generation. Then my questions is why are we still following the Constitution, The Declaration of Independence and Pledge of allegiance? The last time I checked, these laws and songs were created 200 years by Slave owners and now we have 5th, 6th, and 7th generation still following these laws. Secondly how can we talk about morals when we had people working from sunup to sundown without pay, whipped, raped and had to have sex with their own family members. Then did you know that slave owners were paid "Reparation" for freeing the slaves. After that you had Reconstruction where Freemen were given land because they were promised 40 acres & a Mule, than it was taken back by the Confederates who "LOST" the Civil War. After that Free slaves had to pay debt to leave the plantation it was known as Sharecropping, which they could never get out of debt. Next they put in place Black Codes "Policing" and Jim Crow "Separate but Equal" laws to get around the 13th, 14th,15th Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1864. Now let me talk about World War I where the Germans had to pay back Reparation to the French/Britain for causing the war and guess who helped the Germans pay back Reparations "America" it was known as the Dawes Act look it up Cole!." Let's not forget about World War 2 where white soldiers were given the G.I. Bill but guess who did not get to prosper from the G.I. Bill Black's because of Segregation/Redlining. I just seen a story about a Black couple who appraisal was below Market value for their home but soon as a White man act like he was the owner of the home the value increased.I had to laugh because he said that the ones who were born in the 80' were not affected by the drama from Slavery well I guess Coleman never heard of Willie Lynch Letter where you have blacks hating other Black's due to their skin color or Black Males Vs. Black Females causing a divide in the Family that been going on for hundreds of years now. The Willie Lynch Letter was designed to have Black's hate one another while being loyal to Whites. This is why you have more Black Families growing up in a single household mostly lead by a Black Woman that leads to Black's not trusting authority. Then in the 80's many Blacks died due to the Crack Cocaine Era that was infiltrated by white spreading the drug into the Black Community. Let's not talk about the Civil Rights Act of 1965 and the War on Poverty better known as the "Great Society by Lyndon B. Johnson that missed the mark to close the wealth gap between Whites and Blacks in America. In 2021 we have Whites who have 10 times the wealth than Blacks to every White Family they have $100,000 to a Black Family $17,000 this 5th Generations are still being affected by Slavery to this day. Reparations can take care of better schools, affordable healthcare and Police Policy by giving Black's three things one will be Home Ownership, Second Free Education and the Third will be Entrepreneurship those will take care of all the issue Black America is facing today. Let's be clear this is not a hand out from the Government or White People it's the money for Slaves who worked for free, it's the Freedman who fought during the Civil War who put their money in Banks and their money was stolen from these Banks, and the Black's who did not get a chance to prosper from the G.I. Bill for fighting in WW2 due to Segregation! Let's talk about the Jews first of all American had a opportunity to help the Jews during WW2 but America decided not to let the Jews into America because of a Immigration Quota. So guess what happen Jews moved to Jerusalem where Palestine live because of the Holocaust now what is happening right now with the Middle East is a never ending battle between Israel and Palestine since Coleman said Jews have no connection to their Ancestors.Coleman stop citing other people findings and do your own research to find out your History! The Prison system is a new form of Slavery cheap labor help the wealthy become more rich. No, Colman it did not start with th 70's but it continued with Nixon in the 70', in the 80's it was Reagan, Bush Sr and the 90's it was Bill Clinton with the three strike law. It started after slavery by keeping Freedmen in peonage by putting them in prisons because Freedman needed papers from another white person to travel this method "Black Codes" was used to continue to have cheap labor to get around the 13th Amendment. Reparation is a problem solver to the problem we are facing with schooling, bad communities and poverty. How do you know it want solve a problem Blacks are facing? Coleman is going off speculation just like how people are going off speculation with Dogecoin in the Stock Market! Coleman why you did not bring up Stockton California where the Mayor gave $1000 to lower income Communities that allow majority of the community to use that money to pay for things that gave them an opportunity to get things done to improve their lives. How about this Coleman before we decide to have a color blind society let's correct the wrongs"Crimes of History" of this country first by using Reparations.
Everything is "very complicated" to this guy. Man, you can always find one...
Except when he found time to ride the subway in his Tighty Whities 👍🏿
Exactly
“No other race would speak against their own race getting benefits in any way”
@@originalonly1reaper so true he's a product of wat slavery has done(mind)
@@jefferyhartwell9102 That plus he wouldn't qualify for it anyway. His ppl came from Puerto Rico. He's not an ADOS. Neither is Candace 0wens for that matter. Her ppl came from the Caribbean.
I believe he is right about one thing he is too young to understand the systemic results of slavery
Talk to your elders
These blacks don't don't understand reparations was a debt owed to blacks.
what elders? he is NOT African American
So what do we do to address systematic racism then? Coleman needs to take a seat.
You should check out his podcast for an answer to your question.
@@liquidantonym6322 I doubt he will. It's more likely he'll continue to remain in his ideological echo chamber. If he does checkout Coleman's podcast, he'll probably skim it looking for snippets that confirm his beliefs. It's a long shot that he'll sit down and watch or read anything by Coleman fully, in good faith, and with a fullness of intellectual honesty.
His identity requires the echo chamber and the gospel of the religion within it.
Or maybe he'll check it out and and come back here with arguments on the central arguments presented. Anything is possible.
Systematic Racism.....Name me the law or policy in the year 2021 that affords me a white guy that doesn't give a black guy the same benefit?
@@liquidantonym6322 actually I did and it still doesn't answer the question. Name the law or policy in 2021 that is systemically racist. This is like when Trump voters were claiming the election was stolen you need to show proof.. a biased theory doesn't cut it. Show me the legislation.
@@phonkphonk Ignorant. You don't have a clue what the OP will do.
This Colman guy, is the same person that shot a video of himself, running around in public with his white briefs on dancing. So he's supposed to be speaking for the Black Community. I do think so!
@@davidlarue727 Not all black people are part of the same group.
@@davidlarue727 how about he's not African American
@@davidlarue727 the term African American has nothing to do with continental Africans, it was created for Foundational Black Americans who have dna from multiple counties in Africa that were enslaved in the USA. So fuk off with the nonsense Neanderthal. Secondly he's South African American, like an Ethiopian that's a citizen is Ethiopian American or Nigerian American etc
@@davidlarue727 African American is an ethnic group native to America moron now go fuk yourself
@@davidlarue727 For us it's because we are of African orgin but like i stated before we are a mixture of different African groups/countries and because of slavery we don't know exactly what country we were from so the term African American was created 👌. The term never existed until African Americans existed 👌
All the reasons Marc mention for why we should get reparations, to support one another and build up our community these are the reasons why they do not want to give us reparation for those things not to ever happened
From what I understand, reparations are paid by the government. Correct me if I'm a wrong, but the US Government is still alive and well.
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Where does the money come from? From the taxes paid by American citizens of all races and backgrounds. There is a huge population of citizens that immigrated in America decades and centuries after slavery that have 0 to do with the slavery and don’t have any ancestors that participated. So logical question is why should they be obligated to pay money for something they have no connection to?
@@jabac4596 because they were obligated to give other groups reparation. That's why!! When you pay your taxes...can you actually dispute how the funds are distributed or do the government..as he so firmly pointed out... the government take charge of how money is allocated.
@@ssd2930 And I don’t agree with that decision either, If ppl have 0 connection with a specific event they shouldn’t be obligated to pay for it. Now if they choose to pay for it that’s completely fine. Government constantly makes wrong decisions when it comes to spending money and ppl often disagree with their decisions and they tend to demonstrate that during elections. If you don’t agree with how the government is operating you vote for someone else in hopes that they’ll do a better job.
@@jabac4596 " In hopes" the magic words. Now you and I know it doesn't matter how we vote...we never see results...FACTs
He Doesnt Believe
Reparations would be a benefit to him?
Then Dont Accept it - Donate it
But Too Say your Fellow Bros & Sis
Dont Need It & Wouldnt Need it
Is Terribly Wrong |
He May be Financially Free
but the majority of us Are Not
That’s sort of his point, that policy based on actually helping people in poverty and disadvantaged situations would be a better way forward as well as have the solution built into it. If you have an area where 5X as many black families are in poverty, and you have a policy that targets poverty, then by design black families would receive 5X as much. Personally, I’m not opposed to reparations. I think America owes a debt and needs to pay up. However, Coleman’s arguments are sound.
Agreed@@NotoriousMinion but See ! That's how they got Us with Civil Rights .
In Which White Women benefited More From / & the other groups. & When you Say Poor that could mean 'ANY RACE'?
Black People , like Jews , Or the Indian Tribes . Was Promised Reparations
But We're the Only RACE
To be Ignored ~ Meanwhile his Arguement
Is Because they (🇺🇸govt) didnt do it B4 [back then] , they shouldn't have to now ?
Policies? Till this Day the US🇺🇸
Still doesnt have a Anti Lynching Bill?
cuz they think
We Out Here Hanging Ourselves / Yeah Right | Tied the Noose & Everything .
@@ThaEdge304 Trying to read your response nearly gave me an aneurism. Please respond legibly.
@YteAmericansAreRacists Did you read what I said? Go back, reread it, come back with a coherent response.
@YteAmericansAreRacists I literally said I’m not opposed to reparations. I’m all for reparations as long as it’s implemented sensibly and correctly. I said Coleman Hughes’s arguments are sound, not that I agree with them. I said “America owes a debt,” I agree with you. Not Coleman. All I said was that his arguments are sound.
Is that clear now?
Never have this guy on again. His counterarguments are atrocious. This isn't about policy going forward, Marc just said this is an attempt at atonement for the decedents of enslaved people in America. No other group was subjected to that, yet EVERY other group has received some form of reparations from the government.
He probably thinks that if his grandpa stole the house that he's now living in, 3 generations later and the government finds out they won't kick him out and give the house to the grandchildren of the proper owner? Now, he won't be charged with a crime because it wasn't him and he shouldn't be held responsible. Two different issues here. That's what this guy doesn't get. Reperations isn't a punitive measure against innocent white folks.
It’s impossible to pay reparations slavery now. It’s unfortunate, but that boat has sailed. Reparations for Jim Crow makes sense because there are still survivors of that injustice.
The Jews where over a 1000 years in Africa
I would LOVE to know if he is a DOAS!! If not, he has NOTHING to contribute to the conversation!!
He's not he's of Puerto Rican descent and somehow he has been made the voice of Black American interests.
@@michaeltruthson6262 one of his parents is Puerto Rican; the other is African American.
@@TriteNight1218 like I said he's Puerto Rican and should stick to the affairs concerning the injustices Puerto Ricans are suffering and stay out of African American issues period. It never ceases to amaze me how it's always some penderpuss pushed to the forefront as a "black leader" or spokesperson.
@@TriteNight1218 He's also not very smart
I don’t care what this young man says, he is not speaking for me.
I agree with you and he needs to shut up.
@@AC-nz6np The problem is he calls himself Puerto Ricon before so he needs to shut up and stay out of our business. Go speak on Rican issues.
@@AC-nz6np why does everyone else deserve and get repaired besides us?
@@AC-nz6np Yeah we can go back and forth all day but I wont.
Not one person yet on this video THAT'S about reparations cannot explain how everyone else can and do get it repaired (some by American government to non American groups)but not the decendents of American Slavery who has been part of the greatest and longest crime against a group of people in the history of the world.
Everyone else can chime in on our plight and say what roadblocks and sing lift every voice(act) but other groups, nah give it to them.
We had to watch as our own government give money and set asides to Asian Americans, native Americans, Jews and so forth. We not trying to hear anything else. Now I hope you all now understand the only roadblock we have is those like yourself who try and this Puerto Rican guy who have the audicacity to try and speak for us.
I agree with that. He doesn't speak for black people he is speaking for white people.
You handled this well Marc!
Zaddy is paying him well.
Na
Yeah
@@blackpanther-kt7xx Yeah, nah…
Not Zaddy lmfaoooooo fuckkkkkkk meeeeeee lmaooo
Both Hill and Hughes articulated their points well except that the subject of reparations is rarely framed accurately during these discussions. First, positioning recompense as an exchange between White and Black (ADOS) Americans as "individuals" is just wrong and doesn't get to the crux of what U.S. chattel slavery was about. American slavery was a governmental and legally sanctioned SYSTEM. And it took constitutional powers (13th, 14th & 15th amendments) to upend slavery's hold on Black Americans. Reparations were given after slavery.....just not to the enslaved but to their captors. And therein lies the problem, generationally Black folk never inherited an "estate." The idea of the "estate" is addressed and paid out all the time during these modern times....why is this debatable now? One's forbears do leave "things" (money, assets, property, assets, etc.) to their antecedents. What could a "repaired" slave have left future generations? There is such a "compounded interest" equation to the loss of wealth and opportunity based on slavery (and 100 years of Jim Crow laws) which is never-ending. This should be discussed among legal historians and economists to REALLY get a comprehensive notion of what has been extracted from Black American labor-antebellum AND postbellum. #afronerdradio
This is the best explanation for reparations I've ever read. 👍🏿
I always knew how I felt about it but didn't know the exact words to use. I never liked that certain white people and their people of color sympathizers would always want celebrate the history of this country except when it came to issues of race, racism, slavery etc. It's they then want to forget about the past and move on but never give an in depth substantive answer. I guess that's why they only want to to accept blacks on a conditional basis ei you must be patriotic, you must lose the hyphen and be American, you must lose your color etc 🙄
the folks who speak about it from an ADOS perspective seem to make compelling points. However, I don't understand how it would be implemented. As Hughs stated, time is a factor that makes it more complicated.
@@Mr._Moderate Thanks for the kind words. We "get it in" at afronerd.com or btalk100.com the same way on our show. We will be expanding our youtube presence as well with live chats. There are a LOT of issues that just are explained well. If folks prepped their arguments better, you probably could shut down the opposition BETTER.
@@gplus46 "Greatness finds a way" - Mark Jackson
"if you're looking for an excuse eventually you're gonna find one" - random
@@gplus46 Coleman Cruz is A Puerto Rican, he is not one of us, neither is Lamont Hill, he is Jamaican and Croatian. They will always use melonated people to undermine our debt, you don't see one ADOS/FBA sitting at a CARICOM meeting and telling the Caribbean countries what is owed or what's not. They do not speak for us and I am offended by this b.s.
Kudos to the host for making intelligent arguments. It should not be about skin color but having a sound argument. Clearly Coleman Hughes is lost, maybe it's because his admixture has him confused. Mass incarceration is an extension of slavery. He should know that, and he writes books. Smh...
he aint black
He spoke about the Jews and the Holocaust. Why not mention that they received reparations?
All those affected had access to reparations?
@@263production9 I don't know. Why do you ask?
@@redeyespyone because if I’m not mistaken his point still stands, those who were in the concentration camps were given reparations but their children were not. There are still those living today that need to be paid for Jim Crow for sure
@@263production9then, their children directly benefit from it. Over 70 years after the Holocaust, Germany is STILL making amends in the form of extra payments to survivors. The Brother's argument falls flat, in my opinion. We (Africans in America) shouldn't be victimized because the powers that be didn't do the right thing in a timely manner.
America hasn't got a soul..., I just want my pockets lined with money....says Marc Lamont.
He couldn't have been more clear about that...
You must be white.
@@langston122 Using identity politics and making everything about skin color is racist. If you where raised to believe racism is just hidden and you have to find it without using facts... How does that person know when they are being racist?
Tell that to whites.
@@langston122 youtube keep removing my link, that at least how it looks from my perspective, so I'm posting it again to see if it works,
ruclips.net/video/TJARKukC5Zo/видео.html
That dude's not even a foundational black American he is Puerto Rican
Puerto Rico is part of America
@@kimlewis1618 Puerto Rico was not a US Territory during slavery. Puerto Ricans were enslaved by the Spanish not the US
He's half African-American.
@@siriuslyspeaking9720 But out of his own words he identifies as a Puerto Rican
Just once… JUST ONCE I want one of these cats would just tell the truth and be like « I just want to be seen and the there’s a high demand in the media for black people that are willing to sell out their own people. I saw Stacy Dash and thought « yeah, I could do that »
Why do you think someone being the same race as you makes them your people?
@@goaheadmakemyday7126 It doesn't matter if he sees someone of the same race as "his people", the media does, especially conservative media, and there's a market for anti black blackness that is very lucrative. Calling another black man "my people" does not mean I think we are a monolith, it just demonstrates an acknowledgement that we're from the same racial group and that sameness can be exploited for financial gain. I'm not sure what this young man's motives are, but I'm certain his arguments are poorly thought out.
@@coss1 What part of his arguments are poorly thought ought? His basics point make total sense; We should treat the issue as a class issue more than a race issue. Focusing too much on race just leads to more resentment. A great example of this is the Mayor in Oklahoma who only decided to only give money to poor black families and not white ones.
Also, I have no idea what you're talking about when you say there's a market anti-blackness. That sounds like a massive conspiracy theory.
I'm still trying to figure out why one person is getting all this attention. Shouldn't the issue of reparations be a collective conversation? A majority rule? Not a court of common plea but an assembly of the common plea.
I'm for reparations and my perspective is of a critical thought. Not that of an apologist who has no idea of what he's talking about and Mark Lamont Hill proved he doesn't after his first reply on why he's against it.
Facts he has no knowledge
He only care about the "feelings" of some people in the country....and not the ones trampled on.
Do you want to talk about your “feelings,” chief? lol 🤦🏾♂️
Umm no one in this day and age in America are slaves
@@ericharris1853 Are you saying that black wealth in America wasn’t repeatedly denied and stolen? Are you saying that the human lives of those enslaved don’t matter? The lives of their ancestors were directly affected because of racism.🙄
I'm just saying not everyone was a slave you guys are not all ancestors of slaves so stop acting like you where
@@mannyfresh3222 you do know there where wight slave that had there wealth taken from them maybe you guys should get over yourselves you're not all victims get over it
I don’t understand the guests line of thinking the great great Grandkids of the Slave Master are benefiting today while ADOS is in a state of arrested development.
Can you imagine the outrage if there was a " white news tonight" show? Lol. The double standards and hypocrisy are just too much.
You mean every other news channel in the country??
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❄
It would be great to see you interview William "Sandy" Darity on this topic.
Exactly!!!!!
Or Yvette Carnell, and Antonio Moore
@@SollieWalker1906 agreed
Bravo Mark for clearly explaining the difference that reparations and our citizenship are not trade offs for the other.
Was there damage and injury done?
It's not about blaming. It's about accountability and reminding the current generation of what happened in the past and what should never be repeated. And actually I think it's okay when you try to repare what your ancestors distroyed or harmed. I would be willing to do so. Why not? It's the right thing to do. We are connected to our ancestors and especially when the harmed side is still suffering it is adequate to involve yourself.
I am more convinced by Hughes’s arguments, but you are right, this is the way reparations should be framed
The fact that we as black ppl still haven’t gotten reparations is so disrespectful
Government never promised that they discuss it but never promised it so stop bitching about it it
We are discussing it is because other countries were saying that’s what we are offering
Well Puerto Rican is pretty much black. Ijs. But I still disagree with his position. Our ancestors built this country and never got anything for it. He stated mass incarceration did start until the 70s which is inaccurate. That's when it was notice by those who don't look like us. They immediately started locking us up after slavery ended. (13th amendment). But I do wonder what would be proper for reparations. I do agree that it shouldn't just be a check but some real legislation that allows us access to equity and assets to better improve our communities. You can't improve what you don't own. And I also find it odd when there is only opposition when WE are asking for something. Whether it is to be not Killed or Equally Rights or Reparations etc. Even if we say "Black Owned Businesses" it is met with opposition.
Puerto Rican IS NOT PRETTY MUCH BLACK. Just because you have a fraction of black in you does not make you black. The "one drop rule" was created by white supremacist to legally enslave more people, but black people use that rule to this day include people who don't want to be associated with you.
@@blackyurizan Then we would have to put all of us under a microscope. Technically we're all a fraction. I understand what you're saying about white supremacy. But this is just biology. Puerto Ricans were literally created from African, Tainos, and the Spanish. So I can't say he ain't black. But he does show a bit of disconnect but that speaks more to his own perception rather than his ethnicity. Candace Owens is definitely African American and is definitely disconnected.
@@jasmynmedia5649 candace Owens is not a FBA she has a Caribbean background. Puerto Rican are not black Americans. Just because your skin is dark doesn't mean that you are black, Cruz is not black and should not speak on black issues,
@@sandrastafford658 we need to stop using Black as an identifier in this issue. Cause he is Black. He may not have link to historical Black American Slavery atrocity. So we he is not cultural ADOS Black but he is Black none the less.
@@MM-ng5wc I am old still can't get with all of the new black people, and now they don't have a accent, and they are speaking for the native black Americans.
Coleman is delusional! His mind is scrambled. This is nuts.
It’s scary delusional
How in the hell did this ignorant person get a voice in all of this
@@NoSpinster0909 he's young...I can see in his face that he realizes that his thought process is a bit off
@Horace Ward your dogs depend on the government that sounds like a personal problem between you and your dog,as far as reparations goes a debt isn’t just washed away because time has passed this isn’t about a free handout the work was done and sacrifices made
@Horace Ward nope and how much is enough will have to be determined ,what do you think the amount should be for all the atrocities done to people of color you talking about a lot of money when you consider the years and accumulated interest
This interviewer is the problem. This young man stated how to help fix the real problems .
I think this young man thinks reparations means fixing poverty as a whole. Reparations means repairing the damages caused to African Americans due to slavery. It's not the same. But it is a step in the right direction. I believe the whole country will benefit if reparations was given to black Americans.
Mr. Coleman sounds intelligent yet its quite clear he lacks understanding of the damages of a people, as a continuium which lingers today. And, I hardly believe that Mr. Coleman truly understand the repairative damages which need to be corrected for the soul of a people, as well as the need for a moral cleansing of those who caused the damage. Reparations are essentially the pathway to actual peace and harmony.
The whole basis of the argument against reparations by anti-reparationists like this seems to be that it will tear the "nation" apart or cause a "racial divide".
My question to this is always: So what?
So you dont think that racial divide and nation torn apart arent things to be avoided?
@@xe666 No, I don't.
@@thekalamerchant Cool
Not paying reparations makes me want division even more. America damned us every chance they got and are now telling us we don't deserve compensation for that crime, and instead demanding we wave their flag, sing their anthem, pay their government a portion of our salary. Fuck y'all we owe you nothing. This country could die and go to hell for all I care.
he’s delusional & it’s sad to watch.
Very sad
Explain please
Notice how much he talks about "individual". You have a government benefitting from systemic, but all people are to see themselves and all situations for themselves as "individual".
We are individuals, and your "Individual "Rights" are the very foundation upon which your freedoms rest... Collectivism inevitably obscures the injustices heaped upon the individual, ultimately in the name of the "Greater Good," of the Collective...
@James G
All of the problems that you've just indicated, are also really the side effects of Democrat initiated Collectivist Policies, over the years ( really from its very inception) ; since to your average Democrat Party pundit, they also imagine that all Black people are driven by the same monolithic hivemind, politically speaking.
In accord with Democrat Party thinking, you're really nothing more than just moldable clay, and also clay that's to be molded into whatever fashion that they see fit; and if you really start to resent this mode of interaction, since you're now beginning to think for yourself as an individual, then at that particular time, you're no longer Black -- or just a useful political tool for them.
Again, almost all of the historically screwed up things done to Black people - I'd guess at least 98% of it - was done by one political party... Even down to Economically uplifting whatever new immigrant group, Socially, over Black people -- which during its inception was the Irish Catholics...
"I’m interested in my pockets"........Coming from someone who's possibly a millionaire
Disagree with Coleman. I just think he tries to be willfully "choosy" in what he recognizes as harm.
Come on now, this guy. My ancestors would back hand him, for those asinine statements. He's doesn't speak for any of us.
What do you disagree with exactly?
That’s because he’s not one of us , he’s a Puerto Rican.
This guy's friend is Megan Kelly. That's all i need to know about him.....
Go live in Mississippi you'll see the connection right away
Coleman Hughes not making cent's...
can we stop and just think about how much it means to have our own platform where we can have proper civil dialogue about OUR issues?? just wow
We don’t own this but I hear you. Wikipedia
@@temitopes7066 fair enough, a good step in the right direction nonetheless
I think our tax dollars went to Japanese and still go to Isreal every yr so Coleman can have several seats
Love these debates. You can't change anything without dialogue. Mr. Hughes and Mr. Lamont had some great points
He constantly uses the term “Moral.” Who is defining this term as it relates to our experience in white America?
He just needs punked out...his pronounced speech patterns...give him away...to white Republicans he is genius...
@@oscarwarren469 Exactly! They all sound the same: Whitewashed as fuk. It's sad.
your first problem is saying "our experience." you and I arent equal, therefore we dont have the same experience. When will the lesson be learned that black people in 2021 are not a group?
@@oscarwarren469 he doesnt sound stupid enough?
You had a Black president for eight years And a black congressman in the 1890 bitch about white America it’s more of a black country now culture TV culture movie culture it’s almost all black now because instead of white people the black wash it Spiderman the newer ones Mary Jane watching was a white redhead and now she’s a black Hispanic chick Sweet tooth on Netflix the main character was a black man in the comic was a white man
My grandfather served in ww2 and got red lined when he got back, my mom was born in Jim Crow era where black people couldn’t get life insurance! My grandfather just passed in 2020 and my mom is only 60 but he said slavery doesn’t attribute to black people problems generations after! Guess he doesn’t know slavery is older then America!!!
Yes they may have lived in Jim Crow area but where not slaves oh and it what’s the democratic that made Jim Crow laws and it was the democratic that wanted slaves as well
@@ericharris1853 Jim Crow was only the southern states smh! Learn History!! ALL THE SOUTHERN STATES WERE AND ARE REPUBLICAN/Conservative!!
Marc: I'm particularly interested in America's soul. I'm interested in my pocket.
Coleman: 🙄
If we get a fixed amount and paid and received would that fix anything?. I don't think it would.