Rizza Islam and Marc Lamont Hill Debate Dylann Roof and the Death Penalty

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2021
  • A week ago, the fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals voted in favor of upholding the death sentence for Dylann Roof.
    He is responsible for the 2015 Charleston Church shooting in South Carolina where he murdered nine Black congregants in cold blood. Marc Lamont Hill shared his unpopular opinion that he’s against Roof getting the death penalty. He got a lot of backlash on social media for his take.
    Rizza Islam, a researcher, international activist and a member of the Nation of Islam, joins Hill on “Black News Tonight” to debate if Roof deserved the death penalty.
    All this and more on “Black News Tonight.”
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  • @iamme2399
    @iamme2399 2 года назад +929

    Rizza is the only reason why I am watching.

  • @user-tt2qn1cj1x
    @user-tt2qn1cj1x 2 года назад +858

    The woman who lied on Emmett Till should have got the death penalty for his murder and the people involved in killing him as well.

    • @lozgod
      @lozgod 2 года назад +6

      Get in to your time machine and fix history. Zero sense argument. Worry about what’s wrong today and you’ll have a lot more productive life.

    • @user-tt2qn1cj1x
      @user-tt2qn1cj1x 2 года назад +63

      @@lozgod The woman who admitted she lied is still alive.

    • @BrothaJ365
      @BrothaJ365 2 года назад +9

      @@lozgod no time machine will change the outcome. Maybe that pen from MIB tho

    • @ibibiotoiayinklee3480
      @ibibiotoiayinklee3480 2 года назад +45

      I think she should have spent the rest of her life in prison after her admission

    • @40tracym
      @40tracym 2 года назад +24

      Never forget

  • @jaygoodfella56
    @jaygoodfella56 2 года назад +110

    He laughed at them when they forgave him. He didn't even ask for forgiveness... This is why blaque folks need to stop all of that damn forgiving mess, and talking about they a Christian.

    • @michaelw.6447
      @michaelw.6447 2 года назад +9

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🤝🏾

    • @rich3435
      @rich3435 2 года назад +7

      That bible written by the romans had them turn the other cheek.

    • @88alexis
      @88alexis 2 года назад +10

      Yeah, can’t use persecution of Jesus as an example either. He didn’t murder a group of people & admit to it. Since Dylan Roof loves death so much, then give him what he loves

    • @exposethejewish8759
      @exposethejewish8759 2 года назад +3

      @@rich3435 Romans only invaded and copied stuff that was already here never written anything

    • @rich3435
      @rich3435 2 года назад +1

      @@exposethejewish8759 I know it was the encrusteans who were Africans there first and in Greece.

  • @nundipatrick8797
    @nundipatrick8797 2 года назад +57

    I love the conversation. And I love how these two black men both voiced their opposing views intelligently and without blatantly disrespecting one another.

    • @Kaos_Magazine
      @Kaos_Magazine Год назад

      turns me tf on...

    • @AlwonDomz
      @AlwonDomz Год назад +4

      A beautiful thing to watch and a beautifully articulated comment.

    • @otisbyrdstraw4853
      @otisbyrdstraw4853 Год назад

      Rizza Islam gets respect on the name !

    • @AmericanLord
      @AmericanLord Год назад

      Those views don’t belong To Lamont Hill, he is speaking for his white corporate masters.
      If Marc gave his true opinion, they have him off the air so fast, your head would spin.

  • @greatsol2444
    @greatsol2444 2 года назад +392

    What's so hard about calling a terrorist a terrorist?

    • @sarahl8590
      @sarahl8590 2 года назад +17

      Police decide every day, who lives or die

    • @coryhunt3412
      @coryhunt3412 2 года назад +12

      Nothing. What's so hard about understanding cheering the death penalty for anyone only helps galvinize the structures that oppress our people. People are holding together their own obstacles out of emotional needs for revenge.

    • @arontotheleft
      @arontotheleft 2 года назад +7

      @@coryhunt3412 Yep!!! That's Hill's point.

    • @CalShanahanSF49ers
      @CalShanahanSF49ers 2 года назад +14

      @@coryhunt3412 Racoons must be your spirit animal

    • @coryhunt3412
      @coryhunt3412 2 года назад +4

      @@CalShanahanSF49ers you must be dumb.🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @grace1838
    @grace1838 2 года назад +513

    This man wanted Cosby and R.Kelly to fry while having sympathy for Dylan Roof.

  • @The.End.Begins24
    @The.End.Begins24 2 года назад +49

    Aside from the debate Big ups to Marc Lamont for helping to keep Rizza's voice in the media.

    • @sammyD62
      @sammyD62 Год назад

      This!!! I often don't agree with Lamont, but still watch and support for that reason.

    • @fogodagreat3734
      @fogodagreat3734 Год назад +1

      Big facts 🦾🦾🦾🦾

  • @Emmss_
    @Emmss_ 2 года назад +243

    I actually enjoyed this debate. Winner: Rizza! He is such a classy intellectual.

    • @SunaAoimori
      @SunaAoimori 2 года назад +6

      hes rly not

    • @haveagoodday629
      @haveagoodday629 2 года назад +4

      I agree 🥰

    • @ryancoleman303
      @ryancoleman303 2 года назад +2

      We all win for the discussion. But I think Marc made the better argument

    • @timlynch6271
      @timlynch6271 2 года назад +5

      RYAN COLEMAN let’s see how you would feel if one of family members were murdered in cold blood and the killer admitted to it but the system let the killer free.

    • @ryancoleman303
      @ryancoleman303 2 года назад +2

      @@timlynch6271 roam free or life in prison? Again I probably would want him to die but I would be in an emotional state. You shouldn't make polices especially when ones that take a life based off emotional

  • @bustadown319
    @bustadown319 2 года назад +583

    I'm with Rizza ✊🏿

    • @Elemental_Buttahfly_II
      @Elemental_Buttahfly_II 2 года назад +3

      ASE'

    • @orlandoproctor1
      @orlandoproctor1 2 года назад +5

      Rizza was right on facts but missed the long term strategy. Lamont was right if you keep the death penalty black folks are going to die and get rail roaded. Removing one tool doesn’t stop black women from dying to medical malpractice/ brothers overseas dying to war/poverty and exploitation across the globe/ police brutality or the other tools but it takes one off the board.

    • @jeffreylewis2029
      @jeffreylewis2029 2 года назад +1

      I agree. On this one, they got it right.

    • @luvitluvitbaby
      @luvitluvitbaby 2 года назад +4

      I’m not. The death penalty is inhumane. I would sentence him to torture for life and do everything in my power to keep him alive as long as possible. 😁

    • @jeffreylewis2029
      @jeffreylewis2029 2 года назад +3

      @@luvitluvitbaby Yea, that's inhumane

  • @donnaandrews5198
    @donnaandrews5198 2 года назад +126

    I love you brother Islam! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @Kylio_The_Great
    @Kylio_The_Great 2 года назад +49

    This guy really just plays devils advocate just to have an audience! Rizza see's the bs but is being respectful because marc is the host.

    • @donzhawthorneiii648
      @donzhawthorneiii648 2 года назад +4

      I disagree. This Muahfreaker ain't playing. Dude serious

    • @shonuffizhere5670
      @shonuffizhere5670 2 года назад +4

      Marc is truly a b!tch. He's serious

    • @haza123b4
      @haza123b4 2 года назад

      *How can he play me?*

    • @kwameasante5888
      @kwameasante5888 2 года назад +1

      This ain’t devils advocate. This is how the death penalty is carried out currently

  • @jamilleharley
    @jamilleharley 2 года назад +112

    What Lamont fails to comprehend or maybe he does, is that this system will keep changing up the rules regardless. To think they'll ever be fair you'd have to be extremely delusional about who you're dealing with. Take it away and they'll still find a way to do what they've been doing.

    • @marcelito9347
      @marcelito9347 2 года назад +10

      Well stated. He's being an optimist in fucked system.

    • @jaredstevens5382
      @jaredstevens5382 2 года назад +1

      I just wish some other country would adopt our African Americans.They are the forever burden on society.

    • @edcastilla7530
      @edcastilla7530 2 года назад

      not understanding your point.. of course the system will keep changing and go at us regaurdless its doing that now.. you dont help them., and make it easier.. and literally give them the death penalty to work with as one of thier many tools.. thats what hes saying. hes acknowledign the system is going at us.. he fully gets that... thats his entire point of being agaisnt the death penalty. and thats why all of us should be against it. .. yet we over here talking about the crime bill.... the nerve. lol.. so we dont use that logic about the crime bill.. nobody says who cares, they gonna get us anyway... nobody is saying that. so the system we are bitching about for using a crime bill to target us..... we trust with THE DEATH PENALTY??????? ... WHAT???????

    • @davidstar2362
      @davidstar2362 2 года назад +3

      What if Dylan kill nine close family members of his.... his children and wife. no don't kill him he deserves to live!!! Gtfoh...

    • @edcastilla7530
      @edcastilla7530 2 года назад +2

      but the point isnt that he doesnt DESERVE IT. or that if somebody did tht to people you love you wouldnt want it......thats not the point at all. thats understood. the point is that if you give this system the power to do that.. its going to be misused.. and targeted at us.. thats the point.. thats why hes against it.

  • @blaqmax
    @blaqmax 2 года назад +90

    Rizza is the truth! Bro. Rizza presented a great argument. The wrong person to "debate" Marc.

  • @mecca6264
    @mecca6264 2 года назад +309

    Rizza was absolutely right on all of his points!!!

    • @BrothaJ365
      @BrothaJ365 2 года назад +5

      To bad what he said wasn’t sinking in that thick ignorant skull of Marc

    • @thadlincolnii7398
      @thadlincolnii7398 2 года назад +9

      @@BrothaJ365 the question is if the death penalty did not exist, would not the number of BLK people that were found innocent by DNA be alive. Marcs point is not really about Dylan Roof, it is about a system that disproportionately targets BLK people. Nobody with any sense is crying for Dylan Roof.

    • @thadlincolnii7398
      @thadlincolnii7398 2 года назад +6

      Yes Rizza was right about the points he made ABOUT Dylan Roof. However, Marc points is about eliminating capital punishment, a system that disproportionately targets BLK people. The real argument is getting lost on Dylann roof.

    • @arunsalwan8558
      @arunsalwan8558 2 года назад +3

      But what about wrong convictions there have been people who’ve been been convicted and given the death penalty and we have killed them. I think a life behind bars is a far greater punishment just my opinion. One day maybe decades from now they’re going to think this is barbaric. This is essentially an eye for an eye tooth for a tooth stuff

    • @tahjsimon9058
      @tahjsimon9058 2 года назад +1

      His points were irrelevant

  • @Factsoverfeelings4593
    @Factsoverfeelings4593 2 года назад +37

    This man said obvious innocence and didn’t back track 😂 MLH is a 🤡

  • @meccaparker7635
    @meccaparker7635 2 года назад +82

    Only here for Rizza. Marc is a complete joke.

    • @nyebots
      @nyebots 2 года назад +2

      Your thumb nail is a complete joke...

    • @nadirahcroom1938
      @nadirahcroom1938 2 года назад +1

      Exactly

    • @asleepingdragon
      @asleepingdragon 2 года назад +1

      I really don't understand why Marc is arguing this at all.

  • @angied.6874
    @angied.6874 2 года назад +142

    We love you Rizza Islam. I'm here only because of you.

    • @msc-wn5og
      @msc-wn5og 2 года назад +3

      For sure!!

    • @HH-jg4ju
      @HH-jg4ju 2 года назад

      First checking him out I like his knowledge and pro black voice. And both him and Lamont really impressed me. This is the type of conversation I get my level up on knowledge to see two black peoples of intelligent and common sense can have a reasonable discussion and mildly debate and opinions on hard subjects without shouting and trying to over talk each other

    • @232rock
      @232rock 2 года назад +1

      Don't give this post no likes watching the post is okay.

    • @RussellDale6019
      @RussellDale6019 2 года назад +1

      Yeah I unsubscribe to this channel while back

    • @Lenasevilla-yb4ei
      @Lenasevilla-yb4ei 2 года назад

      @@232rock me and all my family members are giving it likes. Stop being weird and jealous under every post saying this

  • @Wake24
    @Wake24 2 года назад +138

    Rizza is one of the most intelligent ppl walking the planet 💯‼️

    • @charmjdeane2225
      @charmjdeane2225 2 года назад +1

      He may actually be the most

    • @piscatorial5666
      @piscatorial5666 2 года назад +1

      Rizza’s not intellectually worthy to shine Larry Elder’s shoes

    • @TonyStone3000
      @TonyStone3000 Год назад

      @@piscatorial5666 Larry Elder is a real-life version of Samuels Jackson's character on the movie Django. lol. Buckdancing negro Larry Elder

    • @ixintellectual2031
      @ixintellectual2031 8 месяцев назад

      @@piscatorial5666Larry elder would get destroyed by Rizza lol. He went LIGHT on Marc

  • @KingNez89
    @KingNez89 2 года назад +30

    The only shred of respect I do have for LaMarcus is the fact that he will bring heavy hitters up here to debate

  • @sly17171
    @sly17171 2 года назад +28

    Rizza is on point...why is MLH so apologetic to an open enemy? Very suspect.

    • @jmcdrawer5031
      @jmcdrawer5031 2 года назад +7

      Isn't it obvious at this point? He's a sellout

  • @jimmythemuscle9612
    @jimmythemuscle9612 2 года назад +211

    I’m only giving this video a thumbs up because of Rizza.

    • @ed3523
      @ed3523 2 года назад +5

      Word

    • @andrewgoosdy3814
      @andrewgoosdy3814 2 года назад +6

      Yeah there's a intelligent educated black man

    • @andrewgoosdy3814
      @andrewgoosdy3814 2 года назад +2

      See brother jealousy staying in a way and weak and Willie Lynch State of mind concerning the black people that's the only way that's the only thing standing in the black man and a black woman's way Fair and Willie Lynch

    • @vitamoore77
      @vitamoore77 2 года назад

      Who the purposely didn’t get a hash tags.

    • @232rock
      @232rock 2 года назад +2

      I overstand you, however I can't because now the brother wants to be black however against judge brown he was white! He won't get no Likes from me at all!

  • @donzhawthorneiii648
    @donzhawthorneiii648 2 года назад +50

    James Byrds Murderers didn't deter Dylan Roof, more than likely inspired him. James Byrds Murderers got justice from the Death penalty & so should Dylan Roof

    • @fallenbeforefiona9000
      @fallenbeforefiona9000 2 года назад +6

      . You are 100% right there is no need to complicate it.

    • @kevinusher6388
      @kevinusher6388 2 года назад +2

      I agree they should get rid of the death penalty. One innocent person dying for a crime they did not commit is not worth all the Dylan Rooths. I would rather he suffer and rot in jail in a 11 by 7 cell being told when to eat drink and shit. When he dies his suffering is over

    • @supspud
      @supspud 2 года назад +3

      @@kevinusher6388 I would only agree if they would put him in general population

    • @sonychiba4733
      @sonychiba4733 2 года назад +3

      The fact that piece of s*** is locked up in a South Carolina Prison and nobody has gotten to him yet shows the level of protection that they have for their own kind if they put him in general population this issue doesn't even come up such is the legal system in the United States of America

  • @mr.porter4373
    @mr.porter4373 2 года назад +11

    Yall are tripping in these comments. Marc's point is that he's against the death penalty because of its use on innocent people. And as long as the practice is in place it will disproportionately be used against black and brown people.

    • @seanieranz1287
      @seanieranz1287 2 года назад +3

      People don’t like to think and reason. They like Islam and they just react illogically. This was a healthy discussion. I think Marc’s point is solid given the people who make the decision on the death penalty. Good debate

    • @cpcCA
      @cpcCA 2 года назад +1

      @@seanieranz1287 exactly. Unfortunately we as people like winners and losers.

    • @notthefather3919
      @notthefather3919 2 года назад

      No, Marc is tripping because that's the stupidest logic.
      He doesn't want to outlaw abortion, even though it disproportionately effects black people.
      And based on his logic, get rid of the justice system altogether since it disproportionately effects black people.

    • @aasay412
      @aasay412 Год назад

      Exactly.

  • @JoelLittle-mm8ed
    @JoelLittle-mm8ed 2 года назад +13

    Mr hill has a valid point many times but. Dylan roof doesn’t deserve the pleasure of breathing air, you’re not going to get righteousness from the government regardless.

  • @Viable7
    @Viable7 2 года назад +167

    Giving this video a like because Rizza is speaking the truth.

  • @williamchildress9540
    @williamchildress9540 2 года назад +104

    Glad to see Rizza Islam back in the mix, they cut him off for sum months..

    • @qandidhater673
      @qandidhater673 2 года назад +6

      He and his mom have been in federal court on fraud charges

    • @yahko________1412
      @yahko________1412 2 года назад +3

      @@qandidhater673
      😳😳 Huh

    • @Jam-de4jv
      @Jam-de4jv 2 года назад

      @UCTK9vNhI_dvD4JUjFffPeUQ shut yo clown ass up no he hasn’t

  • @themessengeromari
    @themessengeromari 2 года назад +10

    Marc still has nightmares about Judge Joe Brown 🤣

  • @dclark89
    @dclark89 2 года назад +16

    Rizza is cookin’ this man!

  • @kimberlybrumfield1316
    @kimberlybrumfield1316 2 года назад +90

    Our brother Rizza!!! Loved the dialogue, I stand with you brotha

  • @eddie_arcadia1313
    @eddie_arcadia1313 2 года назад +148

    Mark is the type of person that turns his hat backwards when he sees a group of black people

    • @JUSLOFI
      @JUSLOFI 2 года назад +12

      LMAO!!!!

    • @HennyHendu
      @HennyHendu 2 года назад +20

      He's also the type of person to bring a good Brotha like Rizza Islam on to have an intelligent discussion.

    • @arunsalwan8558
      @arunsalwan8558 2 года назад +14

      Seriously going after Mark an intelligent man who is bringing somebody else on to debate a point and you’re coming after him that’s pathetic. You don’t have to agree with Mark but we are able to have intelligent discussion.

    • @eddie_arcadia1313
      @eddie_arcadia1313 2 года назад +4

      @@arunsalwan8558 coming after him lol please I'm the last of his problems

    • @regeclewis
      @regeclewis 2 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @tyrafennell1911
    @tyrafennell1911 2 года назад +32

    I hate that Marc is using this to get clout of his channel. These people have no shame 🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @michaelw.6447
      @michaelw.6447 2 года назад +1

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾I agree with you 1000 percent.

  • @mattsheezy5469
    @mattsheezy5469 2 года назад +7

    I understand both sides of the issue, and interestingly, I don’t believe that there’s a clear right, or wrong.

  • @refinedqueen2260
    @refinedqueen2260 2 года назад +147

    I only “thumbs up” because Rizza brought truth to this discussion.

    • @BrothaJ365
      @BrothaJ365 2 года назад +5

      🤔 i wanna thumbs down just for this channel’s bold caucasity to even consider this discussion

    • @andrewgoosdy3814
      @andrewgoosdy3814 2 года назад +1

      Good brother is a very intelligent educated man educated man concerned about the black community

    • @refinedqueen2260
      @refinedqueen2260 2 года назад +2

      @@andrewgoosdy3814, he’s well-educated, handsome and I thought he supported the black community in its totality. I went to see him when he visited St. Louis for a Dr. Martin L King celebration and I was front and center. But, the more I listen to him since the CNN termination, he has transitioned to another type of brother. I think he was thrown off his ultimate purpose.

    • @cantsilenceme6596
      @cantsilenceme6596 2 года назад

      Right!

    • @BrothaJ365
      @BrothaJ365 2 года назад

      @@andrewgoosdy3814 the “concerned about the black community” part is in question.

  • @rossjn9885
    @rossjn9885 2 года назад +69

    This is a GREAT debate!! For real, great points, no malice and tearing of each other down, just well thought critical opinion. Gotta love my people for this, Props Mr. Hill and Mr. Islam!

    • @charlesirby9571
      @charlesirby9571 2 года назад +10

      Where was the debate? Marc Lamont Hill made a circular argument he was just playing contrarian. Even white folks support Dylan Roof death sentence.

    • @katrina8077
      @katrina8077 2 года назад +4

      @ross jn thank you for not pitting these men against one another. It is alright to have a different opinion. It doesn’t make one a “traitor” or “sell out “. It is upsetting to me to read some of the comments that oppressors use and then we turn around and do the same.

  • @wblk
    @wblk 2 года назад +8

    Give Dylan Ruth a pass on the death penalty and it will still be used on black and brown people Mr. Hill. Dylan Roof do not need you to be an advocate for him he has plenty supporters. You just lost some of my respect Mr. Hill

  • @supermaple1919
    @supermaple1919 2 года назад +8

    The death penalty is no deterrent for the most
    part.

  • @kekebryant7439
    @kekebryant7439 2 года назад +33

    Live by the sword you die by it.I believe people who kill innocent people intentionally should go into the grave before their time.

    • @nenaaa1444
      @nenaaa1444 2 года назад +3

      If that's the case a whole lot of people should be dead.

    • @einsteindarwin8756
      @einsteindarwin8756 2 года назад +1

      I actually think killing him is doing him a Favor. I think Life in jail is far more punishing. Especially once the Black inmates get a hold of him and make him their Bitch. Think about it.

    • @lifestraight
      @lifestraight 2 года назад

      You basically said governors, executioners, and judges who have sentenced innocent men to death should go into the grave before their time.

    • @blackstarr3697
      @blackstarr3697 Год назад

      People need to understand what they read it make them sound closed minded . Facts💯

  • @classicharlem3952
    @classicharlem3952 2 года назад +22

    Rizza was sharp! ✊🏿❤🖤💚

  • @LitBoxTv
    @LitBoxTv 2 года назад +4

    This video should be used as the quintessential of a respectable debate. I love the way they communicated with one another.

  • @thatshim4724
    @thatshim4724 2 года назад +9

    Had to click on here. It’s been a min since I saw my brother Rizza. Hope all is well brother. Keep putting up the good fight. The truth shall set them free!

  • @CLGrant-jr7xd
    @CLGrant-jr7xd 2 года назад +38

    Hey Marc, where's your defense for the DC sniper?

    • @aboutthat1440
      @aboutthat1440 2 года назад +5

      Judging by his arguments he would defend them. Get out of your emotions and listen to the arguments. And I agree with Rizza Islam.
      Too many fake super pro black people all in their emotions
      . Who don't even bother with the actual arguments. Just ready to be on a side. Sounding like old people in church. Just ready to moan. No matter what was said in the pulpit.

    • @nealmike5490
      @nealmike5490 2 года назад +1

      Great point

    • @akuntutmose4099
      @akuntutmose4099 2 года назад +5

      @@aboutthat1440 your the emotional one, writing a whole paragraph

    • @CLGrant-jr7xd
      @CLGrant-jr7xd 2 года назад

      @@akuntutmose4099 Exactly

    • @trubenjam1n310
      @trubenjam1n310 2 года назад

      Damn facts big bro

  • @1luv996
    @1luv996 2 года назад +151

    Yes Rizza! An example has to be made. We love you Rizza!

    • @jasondaley718
      @jasondaley718 2 года назад

      Sigh.... how disappointing

    • @X-Factor-22
      @X-Factor-22 2 года назад

      @@jasondaley718
      How so?

    • @jasondaley718
      @jasondaley718 2 года назад +1

      @@X-Factor-22 rizza islam is a scammer and some of MY people fall for his misinformation like this 1luv girl smfh

    • @supspud
      @supspud 2 года назад +5

      @@jasondaley718 Does Dylan Roof deserve to die or not. Nice try getting off topic.

    • @7srchoed
      @7srchoed 2 года назад +1

      An example to who? You think after they put Roof to death, that’s going to stop white people from killing black folk in the future? The numbers show that the death penalty is not a deterrent to any violent crime.

  • @lonniehegwood7341
    @lonniehegwood7341 2 года назад +5

    Hot damn bro. U hit it. You don't hear these people speak out when it comes to black people facing the death penalty.

  • @brandonbrumfield9199
    @brandonbrumfield9199 2 года назад +17

    So refreshing to hear/see two black men intellectually battle!

  • @shaytheo
    @shaytheo 2 года назад +17

    You are not having the same conversation.

  • @dirkmason174
    @dirkmason174 2 года назад +92

    I applaud you brother Hill for having brother Islam on the show. Loved this insightful debate. Can’t wait until you bring him back on to discuss the Covid shot. 👍🏾👍🏾

    • @furiousstylez1113
      @furiousstylez1113 2 года назад +8

      I hear u but you see his hat he has been demonatized black balled etc and it's not right it's disgusting

    • @jimmythemuscle9612
      @jimmythemuscle9612 2 года назад +2

      🤣😂🤣😂 will never happen…Lamont just used the Tuskegee experiment to win an argument yet tell you not to use it against covid

    • @friendswitdadealer
      @friendswitdadealer 2 года назад +4

      @@jimmythemuscle9612 I actually think he would have him on the show to talk about that. I'd honestly be surprised if he didn't. I'm pretty sure him and Rizza have a pretty good repore with each other.

    • @activatedcarbon158
      @activatedcarbon158 2 года назад +2

      Trust me I said the same thing and am on Hill’s heels 👠..He will never discuss this very important issue which is the only issue right now as the future of humanity hangs in the balance. We need real carbon mama and papa bears and even Celebs to step up but don’t count on it. Count on you..

    • @neeuqamilam1170
      @neeuqamilam1170 2 года назад +2

      Marc reminds me of Roland Martin only black when it's beneficial to them then they're back on code w/WS to secure the 💰💰💰💰
      Rizza won this debate in my opinion, and his arguments were on point!
      Marc leaned in sideways with WS talking points all around this debate.

  • @jaymacb1success345
    @jaymacb1success345 2 года назад +5

    Rizza was spot on. Props to our brotha Rizza and a special thanks to Bakari Sellout for having him on.

  • @abuesab97
    @abuesab97 2 года назад +5

    I love how he cited the Quran as giving permission to give a man like Dyland the death penalty. That’s exactly right.

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html ..

  • @garycarroll9447
    @garycarroll9447 2 года назад +14

    Is this the dude who thought bill was guilty

    • @MM-ng5wc
      @MM-ng5wc 2 года назад +1

      He was. Loop hole in the system got him off. His ass should know u shouldn't be doing stuff like the white celebrity did back then

  • @msfurlowspeaks
    @msfurlowspeaks 2 года назад +28

    Rizza spoke truth...

    • @bronzefeet704
      @bronzefeet704 2 года назад

      He spoke truth to people that don't know shit and me practicing monotheism the true definition of Islam and rizza doesn't bottom line

    • @ixintellectual2031
      @ixintellectual2031 8 месяцев назад

      @@bronzefeet704Rizza spoke facts, Period

  • @144Souldier
    @144Souldier 2 года назад +35

    Marc Lamont would be look at as a traitor on the battlefield.

    • @jbreezy6784
      @jbreezy6784 2 года назад +5

      Don't you get it? He is just anti-death penalty

    • @nadirahcroom1938
      @nadirahcroom1938 2 года назад

      Bc thats what he is

    • @nadirahcroom1938
      @nadirahcroom1938 2 года назад +2

      @@jbreezy6784 he's anti black

    • @lifestraight
      @lifestraight 2 года назад +4

      No Marc is too intelligent for most of the audience. He presents a very credible and intelligent argument here.

    • @144Souldier
      @144Souldier 2 года назад

      @@lifestraightMark is a clown.

  • @BlackPlightPeople
    @BlackPlightPeople 2 года назад +5

    Mr Rizza, we have missed you sooooooo much on social media.💜💜💜💜💜💜💜

  • @martinahardy5255
    @martinahardy5255 2 года назад +24

    I'm giving this video a like, because of Rizza.

  • @hassanthomas7928
    @hassanthomas7928 2 года назад +45

    Rizza islam!!! No need to dwell on the past the NOI got so many powerful representatives right now for any subject and nobody can defeat them 💯💯💯

    • @tkg4me
      @tkg4me 2 года назад +5

      And they've done what with their leadership? The NOI has not done a thing for the community as a whole.

    • @theguardianarchives433
      @theguardianarchives433 2 года назад +4

      @@tkg4me That's a lie

    • @tkg4me
      @tkg4me 2 года назад +4

      @@theguardianarchives433 please fill me in on their legislative accomplishments, their plans to eradicate poverty, joblessness, homelessness, education in our community.
      What are they doing about gun violence and the uninsured

    • @arnibah
      @arnibah 2 года назад +9

      @@tkg4me
      BS.The community has rejected the solution.The NOI can't make you do what you should.If they could,you would complain about that.Stop eating pork,quit fornicating,getting drunk,high and take on the responsibility that the NOI instructs you to,then you will see a change in your life and that goes for the Black community.The reason the NOI raises up so many powerful people is because those people take action on what the NOI teaches.

    • @tkg4me
      @tkg4me 2 года назад +4

      @@arnibah pork and sex are the reason black families are stuck in poverty 😑 😒?! In 70 years the NOI has proven ineffective and nothing more than bluster. The only population they serve are brothers using the organization for in house prison protection.
      Again. Where are the BIG IDEAS and results. 70 years...

  • @kdozier2935
    @kdozier2935 2 года назад +8

    I Loved the dialog! Two intelligent men speaking their truths!😍

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html .

  • @FRANKIESTYLIE1
    @FRANKIESTYLIE1 2 года назад +7

    Rizza stands on truth 💪🏿

  • @KIKYOUTUBE
    @KIKYOUTUBE 2 года назад +16

    My question is, what's taking so long to execute him? His murderous rage happened in 2015

  • @fabainrose8673
    @fabainrose8673 2 года назад +46

    Just lost one MARC, overwhelming evidence and admittance makes the difference.

    • @TG-se5sk
      @TG-se5sk 2 года назад +1

      And who decides what “overwhelming” evidence is? Also, I think its wayyyy more painful to let him live and relive his evil decisions. Make him LIVE!

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад +4

      I disagree, I've been against the death penalty for years just for what Marc said its used against us to much wrongfully and all those confessions aren't obtained honestly

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад +1

      Matter of fact Marc makes more sense than dude

    • @RationallyMe
      @RationallyMe 2 года назад +2

      God, some of y'all don't have basic comprehension skills! How did MLH lose because of overwhelming evidence and admittance of guilt?! How... this was NEVER a debate about the INNOCENCE of Dylan Roof. the debate is whether or not the death penalty should be abolished. And unless the pro-death penalty people are willing to live with the acceptance of countless innocent people being put to death (some of whom innocence was proven only after execution), then there is no doubt the death penalty should be abolished. Y'all really act like a 21 yr old possibly living in prison for another 60 yrs is a cake walk. If DR was given 9 life sentences, I guarantee that as the years wear on, his smugness', non-repentance would start to waver. Right now he is trying to be a martyr for white supremacy and the death penalty allows him martyr status.

  • @doreenchindezwa6319
    @doreenchindezwa6319 2 года назад +8

    Is Marc being paid to lead a charge to keep Roof alive? I just don't get him?

    • @katrina8077
      @katrina8077 2 года назад +1

      The argument isn’t about Roof. It’s about the death penalty and how it is used against us more than any other race of people. Roof is the entry point to the conversation because his appeal was turned down.

    • @livinlife8280
      @livinlife8280 2 месяца назад

      I think using Roof to argue that death penalty is faulty and unjust is where Hill went wrong. 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @Palefeast
    @Palefeast 2 года назад +14

    By this caribbean immigrant's logic, if the USA doesn't have the moral authority to put dylaan roof to death, then they don't have the moral authority to arrest him, and he should go free.
    marc lamont hill is someone that we should never take serious.

    • @1stone379
      @1stone379 2 года назад

      I think he's projecting that narrative to pay his bills. Playing devils ad in a sense for ratings. Double agent shit in my opinion. He can't be serious about what he said

    • @ColtanFree
      @ColtanFree 3 месяца назад +1

      What your opinion of the Caribbean immigrant logic of Minister Farrakhan?

  • @bryantjackson3006
    @bryantjackson3006 2 года назад +67

    How many L's is Mark going to take. Lol

    • @thelabnificentmediagroup4832
      @thelabnificentmediagroup4832 2 года назад +1

      Lol!!! He do be taking Hella L's!!!

    • @lockjaw3388
      @lockjaw3388 2 года назад +4

      Right.. !!! Judge Joe Brown.. gave him that work... Now..!!! Brother Rizza

    • @shenberry
      @shenberry 2 года назад

      Bringing insight and losing a debate is not an l. Who else is bringing these debates to the light so when it he loses it's a win

    • @mauricedavis1740
      @mauricedavis1740 2 года назад +2

      mark lamoist hill..

  • @xizor1d
    @xizor1d 2 года назад +5

    This is next level content. I appreciate this debate a lot!

  • @Salih.EduBlock
    @Salih.EduBlock 2 года назад +3

    Good perspectives from both brothers.
    Thought provoking.
    Thank you.

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html .

  • @shontelllacour138
    @shontelllacour138 2 года назад +4

    Thank you Lamont for having Rizza!

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html ...

  • @paulmuhammad4189
    @paulmuhammad4189 2 года назад +17

    marc lamont hill is trying to use bro rizza's good name to get credibility. This is a very sneaky move.

    • @awwhellnaw8214
      @awwhellnaw8214 2 года назад +1

      I see that too. Kept saying my brotha we agree on some things... Bro Rizza face stayed stoic the entire time. Lol hill is goofy for his statements.

  • @jeanettedaughtery4838
    @jeanettedaughtery4838 2 года назад +8

    He admitted to it and showed no remorse.

  • @jeffreyreynolds7509
    @jeffreyreynolds7509 2 года назад +2

    We are the most forgiving people on the planet except when it comes to the forgiveness of our own.

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html .

  • @colbyco9321
    @colbyco9321 2 года назад +10

    This was a Great Debate...Kudos To Marc for even having Rizza on..As other UTubers are SCARED...

    • @cpcCA
      @cpcCA 2 года назад

      Agree.

  • @realrighteous
    @realrighteous 2 года назад +12

    George stenny executed while innocent

    • @stasiagoro8720
      @stasiagoro8720 2 года назад +1

      Exactly!!

    • @dragobluesglows1856
      @dragobluesglows1856 2 года назад

      The story’s of America’s past just let me know how twisted in the head the Caucasian Americans of the past were definitely with the picture they took of them standing next to deceased people after torturing them.

  • @tra9mo
    @tra9mo 2 года назад +16

    They gotta get the real on the show for it to prosper #rizza💪🏾💪🏾 and he on the government list like all the famous black leaders was !!!

  • @pamsimmons6428
    @pamsimmons6428 2 года назад +11

    Hill only got Rizza on the channel for ratings…. Rizza is like man you are a special type of special.

  • @SoloEmpireOfficial
    @SoloEmpireOfficial 2 года назад +12

    “He’s a human being… but he’s a monster.”
    I’m out…

    • @lazarusfowsta
      @lazarusfowsta 2 года назад

      I think he said he’s acting like a monster.

    • @skaterockerstar
      @skaterockerstar 2 года назад

      He's literally a human being.

    • @cognacjackson
      @cognacjackson 2 года назад

      @@skaterockerstar no…he’s a soulless demon, with no regard for human life.

    • @skaterockerstar
      @skaterockerstar 2 года назад

      @@cognacjackson Which makes him a monster, who is also a human being...

    • @cognacjackson
      @cognacjackson 2 года назад

      @@skaterockerstar no…some people just aren’t human….🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @tonymatthews4315
    @tonymatthews4315 2 года назад +33

    Thank you brother Rizza, for revealing this clown over again.

  • @humbleservant4163
    @humbleservant4163 2 года назад +15

    I am against the death penalty just like Lamont Hill said there are far too many brothers being murdered by the death penalty and the only way to stop that is to end the death penalty all together lock that boy up for the rest of his life so that no more innocent Brothers will be murdered

    • @supermike2164
      @supermike2164 2 года назад +2

      Faulty logic. This is a hostile anti black system. They dont obey their own law. So we have no reason to keep blatant demons alive to brag about their bloodthirsty exploits. Just get them outta here

    • @devondivine1083
      @devondivine1083 2 года назад +2

      false equivalents are tha tool of white supremacist....watch out or you'll be a talking point for tha ENEMY

    • @humbleservant4163
      @humbleservant4163 2 года назад +2

      @@supermike2164 wow killing him kills the demons 🤔that makes sense so we kill that murderer and no more wrongfully convicted black men will be killed anymore 🤨you are a genius🤓

    • @supermike2164
      @supermike2164 2 года назад

      @@humbleservant4163 so your logic is we DONT KILL a slimey satanic demon and no more wrongfully convicted black people will be killed anymore huh? now thats just stupid sorry. kill that demon and keep fighting thats how it works

    • @nealmike5490
      @nealmike5490 2 года назад

      Nice in theory..You missed Rizza points

  • @vincentb9159
    @vincentb9159 2 года назад +2

    The nine people Dylann murdered did not deserve to die.

    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/Z5sAgf_w7bw/видео.html

  • @JamaalJackson81
    @JamaalJackson81 2 года назад +3

    the most healthy debate I've witnessed in a longggg time. Both made great points but Rizza points resonated with me more. Love this!!!

  • @onehitta3232
    @onehitta3232 2 года назад +5

    Thumbs up for Rizza

  • @ronaldmccall159
    @ronaldmccall159 2 года назад +12

    Keep it real Rizza.

  • @lwdhmrcy
    @lwdhmrcy Год назад +3

    International Activist. Respect to brother Rizza.

  • @thatsamazing1814
    @thatsamazing1814 2 года назад

    Great conversation

  • @Maxthafirst
    @Maxthafirst 2 года назад +37

    I've lost ALL respect for this dude. According to his logic, we might as well get rid of punishment for crime since "the American govt gets it wrong so often". GTFOH!

    • @diggidy5367
      @diggidy5367 2 года назад +3

      Exactly. I've said the same thing. All his talking points were illogical if taken to fruition

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад +1

      So getting rid of the death penalty is getting rid of punishment

    • @blackembers6130
      @blackembers6130 2 года назад

      @@reasedogableHaven’t you heard He doesn’t believe in prisons neither so it would be Restorative Justice and house arrest for Dylann Roof.

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад +2

      @@blackembers6130 well let the people handle it ,as far as the government and the system it has proven to be unfair and to hand out unequal justice to blacks and poorer people ,its modern day slavery for profit

    • @8wayz
      @8wayz 2 года назад

      Black people are too damn emotional. Stop making decisions based on your emotion. Be slow to anger and frustration. Focus on the answer to the problem. Stop telling me why you are offended or upset. That ish don't matter. If you mad that's your problem. Hence "YOU MAD" stop wasting time telling ppl why you mad.
      If this offends you and all you can think about is how you can insult or bash me. You are part of the problem.

  • @user-hz3dx9tf1f
    @user-hz3dx9tf1f 2 года назад +19

    Marc I completely understand what your purposing, I believe Rizza is beyond ideas and lives in reality on how this Devil works. Great dialogue brothers!!

  • @kocogoddess1423
    @kocogoddess1423 2 года назад +4

    Miss you Brother Rizza glad to see you! Your always so "POWERFUL" no matter what platform your on, you always take on those Demon's! Stand your ground Brother Rizza, I'm SO proud of "YOU"!!!

  • @regina7494
    @regina7494 2 года назад

    Very good debate

  • @anthonyel-ashaad6532
    @anthonyel-ashaad6532 2 года назад +13

    Mark Lamont Hill is an absolute tool, and he loves it!

  • @topper1212
    @topper1212 2 года назад +5

    Marc is it frustrating when the other person just can't grasp your argument? And can't respond intelligently?

  • @SunyChi
    @SunyChi 2 года назад

    This was a superb debate. All bases covered

  • @thedoctorthemasterandthegu7302
    @thedoctorthemasterandthegu7302 2 года назад +5

    I understand both points of view. Let's stop trying to kill Marc Lamont Hill on this one and actually listen to his point. I respect that he put the Brother on his platform which most black news channels are scared to do.

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад +1

      I understand exactly what he's saying ,this is chess not checkers

    • @katrina8077
      @katrina8077 2 года назад

      Thank you!

  • @donalcogdell1857
    @donalcogdell1857 2 года назад +5

    I hear both arguments. Marc is more idealistic. Rizza is more realistic. The only rational argument in this case for him not to get the death penalty, is that the punishment is not severe enough. Meaning death helps him escape long term consequences. It gives him an out. To suffer in jail for a lifetime, and force him to recompensate the families through labor or something, would give more back to the families and societies he attempted to destroy.

    • @cpcCA
      @cpcCA 2 года назад +1

      🤔 Great point.

  • @Bsun612
    @Bsun612 2 года назад +9

    Thought provoking conversation

  • @tawandathechosenvessel6186
    @tawandathechosenvessel6186 2 года назад +4

    I’m with Rizza, but I got to say Rizza choked truth out this whole segment every time he validated each statement with much validity and sound proof to Lamont. You can let Lamont breath now… lol 😂 but wow You shredded every statement that went anywhere near, downplaying Dylan roof death penalty convo. I like this man Rizza

  • @kevinkidd7211
    @kevinkidd7211 2 года назад

    Great Show

  • @deepee4323
    @deepee4323 2 года назад +38

    When your best argument is "let's not do it because they're gonna target us with it"
    You already lost. They target us no matter what they do or don't do to yt people
    It's a fake "principaled" stance smh

    • @supermike2164
      @supermike2164 2 года назад

      Fact

    • @NotaPizzaGRL
      @NotaPizzaGRL 2 года назад

      The thing with liberals like Marc Lamont Hill is they ignore history and material conditions when they come to their various positions. Note how this guy makes it sound like the death penalty wasn't already disproportionally used against Black prisoners to begin with. Not to mention the ones who were innocent, infirm, mentally ill, etc. He won't even question who the legal system serves, what it's purpose is for, who controls it, and how it came to be in the first place. I don't support the death penalty but why use this shitstain to argue against it?

    • @reasedogable
      @reasedogable 2 года назад

      @@NotaPizzaGRL want you don't support it but you do now,what sense does that make, sounds to me just to weak to take an unpopular decision in this situation. That's called being waffler

  • @breal7774
    @breal7774 2 года назад +11

    Appreciate you sharing your platform with a truth teller. But this clearly was no debate.. #Rizza 🔥

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    @alleyepublishing8017 2 года назад +1

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    • @spookyblack7526
      @spookyblack7526 2 года назад +1

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  • @phacemon
    @phacemon 2 года назад +2

    I agree with Rizza 100%. I also like the fact that they were able to have a clean conversation without interrupting eachother or being disrespectful. This is how it should be.

  • @njemilenantan2269
    @njemilenantan2269 2 года назад +11

    This man is reading the incorrect autocue and did not even pick up the correction by Rizza Islam - SMH.

  • @2tone780
    @2tone780 2 года назад +11

    This dude not inviting Rizza back for the vaccine discussion, cause if he really wanted that, this would have been that discussion.....news alert Bro Hill, this discussion proved that you would never pull Rizza into a debate.....just continue to show up in class and get taught, thank Rizza later.

    • @emmettebramble10
      @emmettebramble10 2 года назад +3

      Don't hate one black k man because you love another. They are both highly intelligent men who presented cogent and powerful points that sings with merit. I am so thrilled to see to men on opposite sides of a discussion, conduct themselves with such sensibility and respected

    • @seph---
      @seph--- 2 года назад

      @@emmettebramble10 💯

  • @jonrych
    @jonrych 2 года назад +10

    It's quite simple, if the death penalty is off the legal books, innocent people won't be executed by the state. If 1 innocent person is saved from this this, sparing the "dylan roofs" to life sentences is absolutely worth it. Rizza is obviously speaking from his emotionalism, & I get it. Dr. Hill's position is definitely the more excellent way.

    • @cpcCA
      @cpcCA 2 года назад +1

      Not sure why most people did not pick up on this very valid point.

    • @D-Thang_
      @D-Thang_ Год назад

      The thing is there is overwhelming evidence that Roof killed those people. Most Black people on death row are there without overwhelming evidence.

    • @jonrych
      @jonrych Год назад

      @@D-Thang_ and that's wrong too, hence me siding with Hill.

  • @reasedogable
    @reasedogable 2 года назад +4

    Marc is just not being a hypocrite, he's anti death penalty and I feel death is just an easy way out, let him rot in prison for the rest of his life in solitary

    • @shenberry
      @shenberry 2 года назад +1

      We pay for land we pay for entertainment we pay to breath and we pay for death. Life in prison is expensive. Just imagine more u could if you don't pay 30 percent to the feds

    • @jahkaifrierson2482
      @jahkaifrierson2482 2 года назад

      @@shenberry yeah unfortunately that isn’t all true bud yeah it’s gonna be expensive when you put black, brown and even poor people in jail for petty crimes. As well as the socioeconomic reasons of why so many people are in jail … Now I am not defending that demon of an individual but imma say this he probably rather have them end his life than for him to rot … that to me is the easy way out… i rather him rot

    • @shenberry
      @shenberry 2 года назад

      @@jahkaifrierson2482 I am for rotting if me or you benefit from it. We literally pay money out of our pockets to house prisons, in which prisoners work and produce but yet we get nothing in return. They sell us security that they do not offer.