I would compare the zenbook pro both the. Touch pad and the non touch pad to the mac. Dell really needs to step up on the designs of their scalp tops and put in more ports they are just getting lazy in their designs. The xps13 looks much better than the 15
I use both MacBook Pro 2016 (6700HQ & Radeon Pro 450) and Dell XPS 9560 (7700HQ & GTX 1050 & 4K) which I bought for almost the same amount of money. So far, XPS is the Windows laptop I had the least amount of issues with. There are things I would like to note: 1) While Radeon Pro 450 is quite a nice card for a laptop of this size, obviously GTX 1050 is way ahead when it comes to graphics performance (not to mention it has double the VRAM) and it can handle modern games at medium to high settings (1080p) quite well for a non-gaming laptop. While my Steam library is on an external SSD and I can use either device for gaming anytime, I mostly use XPS for demanding games. 2) While I like the advantage of having four Thunderbolt 3 ports on Mac, being able to connect most current external devices to XPS without hiccup feels nice. 3) 4K screen on XPS is definitely impressive, but my overall favourite is Mac screen. The screen looks true too life as the content looks right over the surface of the screen and 16-10 aspect ratio makes it perfect for any use case making use of more vertical space. Dell has advantage when it comes to gaming and watching movies due to 16-9 aspect ratio though. 4) Thunderbolt 3 port on XPS is a complete joke. I can use my 86 watt Mac charger to power my XPS during most of my work; however, that is pretty much all I can use that port for (plus using my USB-C to ethernet adapter). Its power output is very limited and it cannot even charge my phone at full speed. It only connects to my external SSD half of the times and it provides lower throughput for my external drives compared to the USB-A ports. I'm not sure if this is a software issue but four of my friends using this device has similar issues for months. 5) Keyboard on Mac is quite nice after some getting used to. In fact, I miss Mac's keyboard when I temporarily use another one. XPS keyboard, on the other hand, is not so much a fun to use. None of us in the office seem to like it. 6) Speakers on the Mac is almost perfect for a laptop of this size. I travel a lot and never have I found myself in need of an external speaker in a hotel room. With XPS, headphones are must have. 7) While weight difference looks small on paper, it is quite noticeable if you carry them around quite often. Battery life of the Mac for light workload is much longer but still I can take either device outside without worrying about getting out of juice before I get back home. Therefore, as a former Apple hater, I seem to enjoy using my MacBook Pro much more than my XPS overall. Both could be good for different use cases though. At the end of the day, it all comes to personal preference.
That intangible Mac enjoyment that you are alluding to is what so many people (including myself, in the past) just don't understand when it comes to comparing a Mac to a windows machine. What makes the Mac user experience so superior to the windows one (not just Dell, but other manufacturers as well), cannot be found in a specs list. And therefore, cannot be understood without having owned both. In my mind it's akin to saying: "Both of these cars will get me to work on time. Why on Earth would I pay an extra $180,000 for the Ferrari over the Kia when both vehicles accomplish the same task?" Until you've owned and used both, you can't possibly even begin to understand what makes one so superior to the other, that one would be willing to pay the premium price difference in order to experience that special something on a daily basis. And to those who would say, "I HAVE tried both! There is no difference!" I would say in response, just because you tried Italian Beluga Hybrid caviar and didn't like it, doesn't mean it isn't worth five times per can more over plain old organic Sturgeon to some people. Now hush, and let them enjoy their caviar. ;)
"What makes the Mac user experience so superior to the windows one (not just Dell, but other manufacturers as well), cannot be found in a specs list." Because it's a product of your imagination, induced by Apple... "Until you've owned and used both, you can't possibly even begin to understand what makes one so superior to the other" Used macs for more than two decades. Try again, fanboy.
If any of your comments also targeted me: I wasn't trying anything and I am anything but a fanboy. Not to mention that I never said MacBook was better than XPS in every way. After months of usage, I am not ditching either device; however, I know that, unless Apple really screws up the Mac lineup, only another MacBook Pro will replace my current one. I am also eager to see the detailed reviews of upcoming Asus ZenBook Pro with GTX 1050 Ti. If cooling was as good as advertised, it could be my main Windows machine for work in the future (not this year's model since XPS will probably last long for now).
Well, you obviously don't know much about computers if you think the MBP screen is better than Dell's 4K panel. Brightness is not really what pros are seeking, it's COLOR ACCURACY, and the Dell screen covers 100% Adobe RGB. Apple? Not even close... The rest of your comment is made of very biased opinions and fact-free. BTW, MBP speakers suck too. But then again, you probably think it's all about volume...
Forgive me for thinking, for a minute, that I was actually replying to a reasonable comment. Every word you type screams hater (which btw is just as sad as being a fanboy)! I never said my comments were facts. Those are my opinions. You, on the other hand, are so much of a hater as to claim that colour accuracy is all about colour gamut and claiming others don't know anything. So let me save you the trouble by going less technical on this and put it simpler for you: Is the screen on XPS more vibrant? Yes, definitely. Is it more accurate? Not even close! Do your homework before you make a public comment like this so you wouldn't embarrass yourself.
Right, because Apple uses the same parts as any other manufacturer (actually cheaper ones, but fanboys aren't interested in reality...) but they're sprinkled with magic dust... (eyeroll)
The main reason why Dell XPS 15 can't be opened by one hand, is because it's made for touch screen which need a stable screen to work. Although it should not be applied on non touch version, if you ever use a 4k touch screen of XPS 15 ( i'm using one ) you will see it makes sense to make laptop like that. A laptop that can be opened by one hand can not have touch screen because when you point your finger, the screen will not stable and it's awkward to use.
I think an important consideration I almost never see talked about (especially since the sticking point with Macs often is the price) is that they hold their resale value exceedingly well. I sold my 7 year old MacBook Pro for $500. I will admit that I haven't looked into it, but I'd be shocked if you could sell a 7 year old Dell laptop for that much. Of any specs. So while you may be paying more for a MBP, they tend to hold their value for a LOT longer and actually age really well too. You're paying more upfront but my personal opinion is they are also a better investment.
The Tech Chap one problem MBPs GPU makes 56% of the XPSs GPU performence, that makes the differece between them 44%* which is still incredible. otherwise good review :)
PlayingKarrde I have a 2011 mbp and I can't get more than $300 for it, don't know who is buying your computers but for that age, $300 is about the best you can get
Finally just a nice unbiased fact based review with no clickbait title! You godsend. Nice structure to the video and you can tell the scripted review pays off, where other channels have just waffled and gone off on a tangent. Subscribed! Keep the videos coming - the channel will grow!
Give me the build quality of a MBP and the spec and gear of the XPS 15, I'll be in heaven, especially if the webcam go back on the top (I use it more than I imagined).
It's supposed to go out in July, but like every product launch, it's never sure when. That being said, it will be a very good computer. But Already bought my XPS 15 full specs and damn I love it.
Excellent comparison! I have been "on the fence" with regard to which of these two really great laptops to purchase. I felt like I honestly couldn't go wrong with either of them. But, one week ago I pulled the trigger and picked up the exact same configuration of the 15" MacBook Pro that you used here for your comparison. Even so, I wasn't entirely certain that I'd made the correct call. I still had doubts. However, after hearing your comments about each of these offerings, I'm comfortable that I made the right choice for me. Even though both are truly superior machines when compared to the "typical" laptop of today, the MacBook ticked more of the important boxes for me than did the XPS. So, you've done me a great service by increasing my comfort level with my MBP 15 purchase decision, and settled finally the debate which had been on-going in my head regarding which of these superb machines to pick up. Thank you! :)
Bradley VanTreese im super uncertain if i want the mbp, I'll need it for college to code and do video editing yet ive been a windows user my whole life. This situation irks me lol
get the XPS 15 then. Unless you wanna develop iOS apps so you can use it on your iPhone :) (unless you have an android lol). I personally develop apps for iOS and its development environment Xcode is very nice and user friendly unlike Android app development, which I also can't test physically on my own device
Thanks so much for making this video. I've got the XPS 15 9550 4k Touch with i7 6700, 512 Samsung 960pro ssd, 16gb ram and was thinking of upgrading it for a Mac as it's really smooth but also the battery life is much better than mine that i've experienced and compared. However thinking about the os i still prefer windows but the quality on macs are superb! I guess i'm gonna have to wait for the next generation Mac Pro or XPS haha!
Hi left RUclips playing and the recommendations on the right side of the screen have gotten so much better over the past few years. And it auto-play is on, the top suggestion starts playing automatically. So I came back in the middle of this demo and this was a pretty good evaluation and comparison. I'm subscribing. I just wanted to leave you my opinion that I prefer longer videos for especially considering all the information you went over. Individuals use their computers for different things and this was very helpful for someone who needs to buy a new laptop. Plus on RUclips, you can watch the video again or part of it again, if you need to hear something more than once. Very good comparison! Don't worry about your videos being too long. This was great!
+skifree The hinge design plays a role. You can have a not-so-tight hinge to compensate the weight of the base. Ofcause there is a point were you need to stop, but the hinge design definitely plays a role.
Thanks for this review, I was very undecided between these two laptops but your excellent roundup swayed me towards the DELL which has been ordered. In terms of build quality my daily is still a 2009 XPS Studio 17 1640 which has been completely reliable over 9 years so hoping the 9560 will give as good a service.
Ive always been happy to pay a premium for my mac laptops but Apple have lost their grip on reality through greed and or arrogance. Given the sheer volume of critical reviews any sane company would realise that their so called 'Pro' users would rather a proper keyboard, battery life and the currently relevant ports they need to get the job done over another millimeter of height shaved off. If this was aimed at their trendy mainstream users with lots of money then fine.....But I guess here we have it, Apple see's more money in WOWing the average user who doesn't know or care about any of the things that I do but are still happy to claim they make pro devices for 'pro'fessionals! Can the Thinnest least useful device race now be over please!
super annoyed at tech in general for the fascination with getting as thin as possible. phones and laptops especially need to be fatter for battery and thermal reasons.
Jayme Capurso I totally agree. For the last decade I didn't want any windows computers in the house because I would have to spend time supporting them even though their initial cost was much lower. Lately though, apple's lost ways mean that my last three laptop purchases were Windows computers. Let's hope apple returns to sanity and I won't have to support more windows machine s. However, it is now much easier to totally replace the windows OS even from a virus or other problem by creating a win10 install USB since the computer itself does not lose its license.
I use the MacBook Pro 15 Touch-bar late 2016 model and I love it. I use it for school. I'm a programmer and in my option MacOS beats Windows in the programming department. The terminal is awesome and it's now part of my daily workflow. So for me the £800 higher price tag is worth it Great video man. Keep going!
I have the XPS 9550 4k. Love it but hate the design on the bottom half. The carbon fiber is just ugly imo. I would love the infinity edge, internals etc of the xps with the body of a macbook.
+Kaito Nakajima: Seriously, $1k AUD for effectively same specs (only difference between an XPS 15 and a MacBook Pro spec-wise is the ever-so-slightly faster i7-7820HQ in the MacBook, and ever-so-slightly faster Nvidia GTX 1070 in the XPS), macOS and build.
You gotta know when to catch the deals. I got my MacBook Pro with 1tb SSD for and faster processor for only 2000$. Also, I guess in US is cheaper. Merica.
Hi Tech Chap, thanks a lot for your videos. I wanted to let you know that your videos were instrumental in my decision buying a Dell XPS 15 a few months ago and I'm really happy with it!! Cheers mate!
Been a windows user and switched to mac 5 years ago. Just because the new gen MBP was no longer upgradeable and even more expensive, thought I'd switch back. So I bought the XPS15. Had some issues installing the drivers, but after 2-3 windows reinstalls over the course of a month, got it pretty stable. I did get the occasional blue screen once in a while but overall it was a decent experience when docked to a monitor with keyboard and mouse. However when used as a laptop, just because the trackpad is so bad and unprecise, it was very frustrating to use. Long story short, I'm back to mu mac (macbook air 2012 and imac 2011) and couldn't be happier. Maybe will get the MBP 13 later this year, but not touchbar (ew). So long story short, the user experience is much better on the mac, haters only see the price difference.
I totally agree with this. Been rocking a 2011 MBP for a long time and finally am frustrated with out dated ports and lower resolution screen. The MBP I would want to upgrade to is around $2500 and I found a loaded Dell on sale for only $1350 so I decided I'd give it a try. It has such better specs and ports than the MBP and even has a 4k screen. Now that I have it, I noticed it has bad enough edge bleeding issues that I'm going to take it back for exchange, the trackpad is so much worse than a MBP, windows 10 has issues with 4k scaling especially if connected to multiple 1080p monitors which MBPs have never had issues with. I DEFINITELY think the experience is better on the MBP and would love to just get a new one instead but at $2500 I think i'm going to just try to exchange my new Dell in hopes I get a better panel on the next one and deal with the annoyances for the much cheaper price unfortunately.
Yeah! i just got so frustrated with windows so i bought a macbook. Couldn't be more happier :) i don't mind not being able to game on my macbook because i just have a windows game pc at home. Best of both worlds
Daniel Briquez He didn't say "damn it is gorgeous and run smoothly and is cheaper" so why bring up price if he didn't? Price isn't the only factor - clearly he cares about design and product feel. This may come as a shock to you but different people have different opinions and values than you.
Nice balanced review. One thing that I must add, Macs last longer than any Windows competition. My MBP is running almost 6 years now, showing battery issues. Few cons for me: touchbar, ports & pricing!
I have both machines at home. The Macbook wins in pretty much all the aspects that I care about: - Design - Display - Trackpad - Keyboard - Build quality - Overall battery life - Fan noise - Portability - Sound quality: Speakers + Audio jack Dell wins: - Gaming performance - I personally still prefer Windows
You had me at the price. 2 essentially identically performing laptops and 1 is £1,000 cheaper. No contest. I'm also over Apple's fetish for slimness and having to buy x number of dongles to get the machine to do what I need it to.
PowerhousePR Yes, I did. Their performance is comparable and would both do day to day work really well. All you have to decide is how much you're prepared to pay.
Jas M Really? Can you please share where you get your Macbooks from? I'm from Australia too and recently looked for a new laptop and Macs were more expensive, by a couple hundred dollars at least. The 15inch XPS with 4k touch display and core i7, 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD is $3199 on Dell's website (on sale ATM though down to $2710). While the 15inch MBP touch bar and i7 processor, and same storage/memory Config is $4099. That's still a $900 difference. Until the i7 models of the Macs just came out recently, they had the older i5 processors and were about the same price as the i7 Dell XPS. But now the new Macs are a lot more expensive.
Umm. The 2016 MBP 15 also has the i7 but its 6th gen. I don think they use i5 in MBP 15. But, I think it is all down to the preferences. There are people prefer MacOs and Mac products in general and there are people love windows with higher or equal spec but lower price. I think when people are looking at laptops that are over $3000. They want to buy what they want. I don't think many of them will change their mind due to the slight price gap. Thats my $0.02 anyway. I personally have been using MacOs for 8 years now and no plan to change in the near future. I brought my MBP 15 $800 cheaper than RRP. Brand new as well xD.
i bought macbook pro touch bar 2017 , then in just 4 days the screen is flickering , i returned it to apple , they change it a new one , but when my girlfriend told me that her macbook touchbar 2016 is always laggy and sometimes restarting , I just told apple to refund my money , they refunded it . now i just bought dell xps 15 4k touchscreen and using it for 2 months now and im loving it .
manolet torreno Hey mate, this is the exact laptop I am planning to buy. I am really curious about any deal breakers so I would be glad if you point me to the quirks you've experienced. Also, some people claim that they have experienced burn in, and CPU throttling while gaming, have you experienced the same?
Sam Freeman after using the laptop for a few months more . I experienced battery failure . But it fixed when they changed the battery . That's just the problem of mine . But its all fine now . Cause I use it for games editing and alot of things maybe that's the reason of battery failure . But over all never experience anything . All smooth amd good .
Mario I feel like his comment is bs, because Apple products are known for being the ones having the least problems out of all tech products there is. I don‘t believe him
Nicely done. I purchased the Dell XPS 15 in the following configuration. I use DaVinci Resolve 14 for editing my 4K RUclips videos and I'm quite pleased with the performance I'm getting. I got the 4K screen as it's important for me to see my videos in 4K. Dell XPS 15 9560 Signature Edition i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor (6M cache, 3.8 GHz) 32 GB RAM DDR4-2400MHz NVIDIA GTX 1050 4 GB DDR5 1 Terabyte PCIe SSD 3840 x 2160 4K Infinity Edge Screen Windows 10 Pro
This is an awesome video, thank you! I've been waiting on a MacBook Pro that I ordered on May 12th, and almost canceled the order for the Dell XPS 15. It theoretically gets here sometime this week. Glad I didn't cancel it!
I think 1080p, 300 nits and sRGB is more than enough on a portable device. If I would need anything more accurate for content creation I would probably hook it up to an external monitor but for on the go I don't need anything more. Oh and I think a touch screen is only useful if the laptop can be used in a tablet form. Overall if Final Cut Pro is not a viewpoint I see no reason to buy the MacBook Pro, maybe the design of its body is the only thing I like about it. The touch bar is kinda meh and I don't see the point of that huge touchpad. Not trying to be an Apple hater or anything, those are only my thoughts.
Look, the de-facto standard every professional editor uses nowadays is Premiere (with DaVinci gaining more and more in popularity.) It makes absolutely no sense to compare rendering in FCP on a mac to rendering in Premiere on a windows machines. Pros use Premiere or DaVinci, and the computer running windows will ALWAYS render faster, given similar internals. But Apple fanboys are no professionals. They're just spoiled children who love to feel superior to the rest of humanity, so they'll find whatever excuse to claim that their machine is better and willingly lie or disinform. So, you just get a mac because the software is "optimized", and the "proof" is that FCP renders much faster than Premiere. Except that has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO with the OS. Premiere simply isn't the fastest-rendering editor. And there are windows programs that render faster than FCP (like Power Director.) And they're not "optimized", since they're not made by Microsoft. And yet they beat Apple's "optimized" FCP... Proof that MacOS's "optimization" is just another empty buzzword...
Well, for single projects like yt FCP is still a great option. It lacks nothing and it's a heck of a lot faster. And even though I agree that the touchbar isn't the most innovative thing ever, it is still helping me so much for little things like adjusting brightness, volume and music play, it's better than it seems
"It lacks nothing and it's a heck of a lot faster." It lacks plenty and that's why it's not the de-facto industry standard that Premiere is. And the fact that it renders faster than Premiere means nothing. Power Director on Windows is even faster than FCP when it comes to rendering. And no, since it's not made by MS, it's not "optimized." Which kinda proves that Apple's "optimization" is yet another stinking pile of BS...
Well, if you use premiere, you need a pc expensive as shit to smoothly playback and scroll through heavily edited 4k footage. and talking about power director, I never see around who ever uses that, so I don't see the point in bringing that up, and you're basically contradicting yourself about the point that no pro uses final cut and makes you look like you just want to prove in some way that the system you don't use is shit
Think is a good comparasion man, congrats for the video! In my opinion Mac justs worth it if you need OSX and it's exclusive programs. Windows is not the best OS, i prefer OSX, but for the price, think Dell deffinetly worths it. In fact, I bought the same XPS 15 last week!!
Hi Luna! I use it for Premiere Pro & Phothoshop. Is simply amazing. For me is one of the best laptops in the market in spite of it uses Windows (Windows 10 isn´t bad at all but i still prefer OSX) :D
SerGio3Xx I also use Photoshop on it, After Effects, too, thanks to your reply, I don’t feel regret anymore! And I wonder did you update drivers, intel, etc like other users reccomend?
Did a clean install and that's it super quick. I had the a400 SanDisk ssd shipped with mine which is fine for me. Good quality although my screen had dead pixels so getting that replaced tomorrow but no biggie. All in all I'm happy. Takes some time for me getting used to the track pad and enter key as it's quite small in my opinion. I think you'd be very happy with full HD screen with amazing battery life.
Why poor thing? It's been great, best laptop I've had. 9-12 hours battery life, clean install, light weight, powerful. Perfect for my needs and very reliable. I'm yet to get any issues at all. ;)
Honestly MacBooks are the best. Just lovely to use and work so well. The only thing is the price. So if you have the money - buy the Mac. If you don't have the money - buy the best Windows Laptop. Also Windows are better for gaming and certain third party apps. If you are a general user and just want a great laptop. I'd choose the Mac. Mainly because it's got a high resale value, it's a pleasure to use, it looks and sounds great and it remains fast for years and years. The problem with Windows is the reduced performance in later years.
I found your channel randomly scrolling around RUclips. I really liked how you presented your comparisons and how you told which one is better with respect to people's priorities( Keyboard, Display, etc). Overall, a great video! I hope you get more subscriptions and achieve heights of success. Cheers!
As tech is getting better humans are getting lazier...opening a screen with one hand?? Should that be an issue for anyone..ever? and for that reason.. am out MacBook nothing extra justifies the extra $1000
I have watched a ton of xps vs macbook pro 15 inches and this is the best one I've seen. I don't subscribe that much but I was very satisfied so I did.
Can't speak for the MacBook, but the XPS does have some serious driver issues I really hope Dell addresses before the end of the year. The keyboard sucks and the space bar has response issues that several people including myself have noticed. And those speakers are really, really bad. Just the fucking worst. I've already had to replace the speakers because one of them blew out. Good thing the laptop is easy to open. So long as you have the correct screw drivers. Still a solid laptop believe it or not. If the driver issues would be addressed soon, I will definitely feel much better about dropping some much money on this thing.
Had one. Example? Most XPS 15 they sent to reviewers where with fast Samsung SSD. Most sent to customers are cheaper brand with slow SSD. I had FHD screen with color shift, slow to load (almost 25sec)... But MacBooks have theirs own issue. If something goes wrong and you are out of warranty, get ready to sell an arm or a leg.
I just bought the top end spec of 9560: 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM with 4k touch screen. Just over £1500 inc VAT from the Dell Outlet store (factory seconds or returns, with a warranty). That was including VAT. Comes with Win 10 Home, which I will probably want to upgrade to benefit from being able to run Hyper-V machines. But if you are looking for a cheap way of getting one of these machines, I think it's a good idea to wait for one of the Dell Outlet store's 15% off deals on XPS, like I did last week. Looking forward to getting it into my hands. Great review!
Just love the way MacBook runs, so smoothly and a fan of the iOS system. Don’t known why people always have complain about it, maybe it is too expensive, but absolutely choose MacBook if you have money
Do you know when the Asus Zenbook 3 deluxe is released? And if you'll do a video on it? I was just wondering because for me it seems like a perfect balance of the XPS and MacBook. It'd be nice to know what you think
Tams80 Yeah spec wise it's similar to the lower end of the MacBook range. Plus it's been marketed as an "ultra book" which I'd say is the same as the XPS and MacBook. Mainly just want to see what TechChap thinks of it tbh 😏
That will probably be it for this year, as for the zenbook pro it is going to come with a 1050ti and more battery 14 hrs for the 1080p version and most likey 8-9 hrs for the 4k version and fast charging
just the video i needed. doing research on what to buy for video editing and these 2 came out on top. my experiences with windows laptops haven't been great, so i'm swaying more towards the macbook to try something new
I have a question... Why do we need web cams on laptops? Why not just removing them?? Skype is dead, and for people who need it just use your phones camera because its way better. I have not used my web cam in ages and right now I have it disabled, that's how little I care about it. What do you think?
Tolmoli not really. Webcams/Skype are still useful for business people (I'm a business student). It would be awkward to only talk to a person in a meeting on a phone.
Great info, thank you. I switched from MacBook Pro to XPS 15. So glad I did. Premiere Pro, Photoshop, PreSonus Studio One all run fine. Going from Mac OS to Windows 10 was not as bad as I thought it would be. The webcam and the trackpad were a bit of a disappointment, but definitely not deal breakers. For about $50 I got a Logitech webcam, which is better than either laptop.
I'm glad you mentioned one-handed opening. It's something that bothers me (more than it should) about many modern PC laptops, so much so that I don't want to upgrade from my 2012 model XPS 15. As far as I'm aware, that was the last XPS model I could open one-handed.
Good Video..Nice comparison. Just bought the Dell XPS 15 over the weekend. Was thinking about moving over to an Apple laptop, but after doing some research I decided the Dell XPS will serve my needs best. Mostly doing Video Editing....Nice Review!
Apple isn't blinded by simply speed. They work harder on stability and consistency. I have several win7-10 computers and laptops sitting around the house. But for work and getting shit done - Apple all the way.
and how much did those windows ones cost? Did you get one that costs nearly or the same as that macbook? ;) Or did you get one loads cheaper to bash on quality?
Apple never wins vs windows. Never ever!!!! If you install linux on a much chipper windows computer you have a similar performance like a mac which is a moddified linux program. Linux computer use a small resurses vs a windows computer!!! If you want a fair play comparation put a windows on a apple computer an run test. If you make a compration to a top apple product vs ASUS ROG G752VS-XS74K OC Edition the winner is Asus and cost 2400 dollars!!! Like a said apple vs a windows computer never ever wins!!!
I can't say the same about my experience with Macs. MacOS is great, but my MacBook Pro had numerous problems and cost me hundreds to keep up and running. That and Apple's recent decisions (the gimmicky TouchBar, the axing of essential ports, the killing of MagSafe), leave me looking to Windows again.
bought a XPS 15 (2017,4K variant of the version in the video) a while ago, was thinking about selling it because the new Kaby Lake in the MBP, but never mind after watching this amazing video comparison, thanks!
The fact that the laptop was imbalanced and the screen darkens isn't just a nuisance. These are HUGE issues with build quality, and those two things alone IMO are enough to disqualify this Dell as a good purchase.
Exactly right. I bought an XPS 13 (top spec Kaby Lake) and had horrendous issues with coil whine, a notorious problem with the XPS laptops. The XPS also had issues with the trackpad, audio static/hiss, and it wouldn't stay asleep in sleep mode. I returned it. The Dell XPS seems like a good purchase in terms of price and spec, but you simply aren't getting the same build quality or ease of use as a MacBook Pro.
And also notice when demonstrating the 'spongy' keys on the dell, when he pressed in on the keyboard the entire assembly bowed inward? That's another clear sign of poor build quality.
You could just get the 4k IPS display from dell, and you would still be saving allot of money over a mac. Thats why I commented earlier saying that a better comparison would have been getting the fully speced dell laptop, and then tried to find the closest priced mac laptop, although as you saw for a thousand dollars less than the mac you get a more powerful machine with the dell, for 150$/180$ more you could get the better 4k display, and also investing another $200, or maybe a little less you could even get a better graphics card, and you would still be saving 500-600$ or maybe more, and have a real high end machine, I'm not saying that the Dell in this video is not a high end machine, because it is, but just for a little more you could get a beast of a machine, and still be saving allot over a mac.
Yeah I know its also about the fact that your over paying for hardware thats under powered, and on top of all that the mac book pro has allot of issues, and these issues have been found by hardcore apple fan boys, not just people that hate apple for no real reason other than to hate, the problems people are having is the track pad apparently gets pressed accidentally making you start typing in a different area on the screen, the Battery, also the ports have problems at times as well, and with certain devices certain ports don't work at all, also the lack of a card reader, and allot of other premium features have been taken away as well. The Mac book pro as it is now isn't even something that should be recommended to die hard apple fans, also for a thousand dollars less you could get a laptop thats more powerful, and has all the ports you want, and a card reader, and a good dedicated graphics card, and if you payed the same price as the mac book laptop you would be getting a laptop thats a beast in every scenario you throw at it, but even if you decided you wanted to save just $500 or $600 you would be getting a beast of a gaming/ work/ Video editing laptop. Also if you wanted to put apples OS on it, you could do that later on as well, or just use Linux or partition your harddrive/SSD and have Windows and either mac OS or a version of Linux. Also with a mac budget you could get a 4k IPS display, an I7, 16GB or 32GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1080 , and one or two SSDs, and a 7200RPM hard drive, which would make a nice laptop that could do basically anything you wanted, game on ultra, work/video edit fast, so basically anything you threw at it it could handle.
Not a word on the fact that the MBP is limited to 16 gigs of RAM and whatever SSD it comes with? If you edit 4K content professionally, working with 32 gigs of RAM DOES make an awful lot of difference. And yes, Apple as usual will not pick the best GPU, just the one they get a great deal on from the manufacturer, usually by sheer blackmail (that's why they always pick second-tier AMD...), so that instead of passing the savings to the customer they can squeeze him/her even more. But, as usual, Apple is not really targeting the niche of actual media pros who'd get pretty upset by being treated like children and told what's good for them (as if Apple actually knew it...), but rather the millions of rich (more often than not simply wannabe-rich) poseurs all over the world who buy that brand to feel superior to the rest of humanity. And who typically spend their lives blogging at Starbucks and looking down on peons who dare to not subscribe to the Apple cult. Oh, and BTW, the XPS15 with the 4K screen is MASSIVELY more color-accurate than the MBP. As in 100% Adobe RGB coverage... Once again, it may be trivial for the blogger who sits pretty at Starbucks behind his/her symbol of opulence, but not for the actual media professional. Screen brightness isn't really important, as no pro editor would ever work under the sun.
Michael Garry Here's old xenophobic, demented, fucking stalker who can't even type my name correctly as usual hating on me for not being an Apple cultist while totally incapable of discussing the technical points. Yeah, a moron like you doesn't need a powerful machine, anything you do you can do on a $300 laptop. And that is relevant how? Yeah, I forgot you're just a fucking stalker...
Michael Garry And how's your Mac a more "well rounded" machine by losing to the XPS in every category? Like I said, if you don't need computing muscles, just buy something like an Inspiron... Come on fanboy, we're not dumb like you and we've witnessed your hatred for the "infidels" directed to not only me but anyone who dares to make fun of your cult...
"the Mac won in most other categories" Such as what? Design? That's subjective and only idiots like you care about design. Apple fanboys believe that computers are fashion accessories, LOL... BWAHAHAHAHAHAH sorry fanboy, you're just too dumb and clueless to understand that what this guy is reviewing is NOT the top-of-the-line XPS15 I own. Compare the pathetic and overpriced MBP15 to my model and it loses in each and every category. I have a 4K screen, which has 100% Adobe RGB. Apple doesn't even come close. And the SSD in the 32-gig model is the faster Samsung PM951, which smokes the cheap crap Apple solders on the mobo. Now please tell me that you don't need 32 gigs and a 4K screen (you would hailed those as fantastic if Apple only had them, you are like a child...) and you would still look like an idiot for buying a MBP instead of a Dell Inspiron 15, which costs less than half and STILL smokes the Apple joke since it has a powerful 1050ti GPU. Gotta love how you never miss any opportunity to show off how utterly incompetent and clueless you are, fanboy...
And no, I don't believe a word of what you're saying. Like all Apple fundamentalists, you're here to hate on anyone who criticizes your cult. And you people are so dumb, you all repeat the same lies. Yeah, each and every one of you has Windows and Android devices, only to say that they're crap or inferior to anything Apple. Funny how in the same message you claim to own a Dell desktop and at the same time claim that Dell, Samsung, HP and any other brand you want to claim you use are utter crap. Don't insult my intelligence, fanboy. Keep programming stupid games for iDiots, that perfectly suits you. But, like I said, you could do that with a $400 laptop...
If you're a gamer then buying a MacBook is definitely still an option for you. What this video failed to mention is the MacBook's ability to install and run a Windows partition as well as a Mac OS partition. I have done this on my own MacBook Pro 2012 model, and it runs Windows games great on my Windows partition (and installing Windows is easy using Apple's own included Bootcamp software).
I looove seeing angry fanboys get mad at Apple fans simply because Apple consumers don't see things the way they do. Really shows, the narrow world some people live in
I have the 2015 version of the xps. I think it's the 9550 version. still infinity display. it's a brilliant laptop. but it's riddled with QC issues. motherboard replaced twice. fan replaced once. and now my trackpad is about to come off. how did that happen? God knows. also I can't use my Samsung earphones with my xps. in retrospect, I still would have chosen the xps. price is great and they honour their warranty well.
Same here, I have MBP 15 2016 and only problem is that keyboard had to be changed, b key was repeating itself. My wife is an Apple hater :) and proud owner of 2016 XPS, USB-C hub was a waste of money, as they never developed proper drivers for it and discontinued, funny thing I can use it with MBP, no problems. Motherboard was replaced, battery was replaced, touchpad was replaced. It has tinny rubbish sound from the back of laptop, but 4K screen is glorious. Put a screen protector on it and it will remove the gloss. After this screen is better than MBP.
Owned the Dell xps 15 9330 which was a great and fast laptop but was also riddled by the issues you describe. After replacing my motherboard (3!) times i gave up and sold it. I payed 1800 dollars for that laptop and it was the biggest dissapointment ever. I won't fall for their specs and look again. Dell should fix the issues instead of just releasing new ones every year.
I don't speak english well, and realized very little. But I understood You didn't say aboute OS. This is the best in MacBook. I bought the Mac my son. He said three months later that he would never return to Windows again. Thank You.
Honestly: I find this comparison pretty senseless. I buy a Mac because I want to use Mac OS X and because I do not want to use Windows. So, I do not have a choice. Thus, although the hardware can be compared it doesn't make much sense.
you have to think what you need to do, and I pretty sure you can do exactly the same things in both OS, but paying much more on one of them. At least if you use as a productive element, not like a luxury accessory.
Good review. I just got my XPS 15 with a 1TB drive. I went for the XPS because i can run Linux on it alongside with Windows. It makes it alot more useful for me.
Writing from my Dell XPS 15, I love it but it's definitely not perfect. Wake up time is slower than Mac in my experience, screen a little less bright, speakers not great. I love the soft touch (I hated resting my hands on cold aluminum), I prefer the keyboard, small bezels, and I now prefer windows to Mac OS. I would be happy with either laptop but for the price, I'll stick with Dell.
I disagree, Splash. The issue I have always had with Dells (both employer issued and one I purchased for personal use) is the "fit & finish". Aside from the fact that Tom's machine wouldn't even sit flush on a flat surface when he first received it, and the fact that the palm rest is already changing colors on him, I have had multiple instances of the finish wearing off, fading and "chipping" to various degrees on the XPS 15 I owned previously. In fact, the quality issues I experienced with my most recent Dell is what prompted me to even start considering the MacBook option. The tech specs on the XPS are quite good in my opinion, but the build quality has a ways to go to equal even a Lenovo or an Asus, let alone a MacBook. Perhaps if Dell offered something akin to Apple Care I might feel differently. But, they do not.
www.amazon.co.uk/HP-17-w200na-i7-7700HQ-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B01N0ST9AP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496426531&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx%2B1070%2Blaptop&th=1 get something like this then?
Just for those who are wondering.... the metal body was not the issue on the xps 15... it's the rubber pads on the bottem... just put some pressure on it and it will be fine
Sure, sure... I already tried one, and I still prefer a Windows machine. :) But hey, as long as you don't bash people over their preferred OS, then liking macOS is cool.
I'm still using my 2014 mid MacBook pro retina which I got in December 2014. It's still running buttery smooth and I haven't ran into any issues other then programs and a few games which only run for Windows.
+Tweegyblink: Windows machines don't crash as often as you think. This one I'm typing this one I can't remember a BSOD on. Although, macOS does make the OS harder to break.
I would rather burn the 2700 dollar/pounds/euro's than ever spend it on a mac. I can build a crazy good pc for half that price that will put your stupid mac to shame xD
Maybe because people are too busy USING Windows to get shit done instead of trolling YT and bashing another OS cuz the one they have doesn't do shit... I'm writing this on my hand-me-down late-2011 MBP 13 FYI. Fine laptop, decent as a consumer device (though 3rd-party codec support is shit compared to Windows), but restrictive sluggish sandboxed junk of an OS. Finder is just an embarrassment of a file manager compared to Explorer out of the box.
NOT TRUE,I got a Dell laptop in 2012 which started with Windows 7,now it's still upgradeable and haven't catch any virus,you need to take care of the system carefully :)
Windows does age pretty well. If it weren't for RAM overflow due to people opening up too many tabs, this computer I'm typing this on runs pretty well.
I too tried the XPS 15 vs the MBP 15 and it was just too hard to justify the extra cost for the MBP. I really loved the MBP form factor but the nail in it's coffin was everything soldered to the board, at least with the Dell I can swap out the memory, hard drive and even the wifi card. That was what kicked me over the edge to the Dell, which I currently have the 9560 top of the range with a fresh install that makes the Dell run a lot smoother.
Macbooks are overpriced JUNK. So limited with what you can do and can ONLY go up to 16gb ram, at the time you purchase it. There's NO upgrading it afterwards. . One thing you forgot to mention is with the Dell XPS 15 is that you can open it up and upgrade the RAM to 32GB and upgrade the SSD. Thats right you can open it up, take out the SSD thats in there and put in a larger capacity one. You can even open it up, take out the RAM thats in there and replace it with new larger capacity RAM. Cant do that with the crapBook. Thats a MASSIVE bonus. So looks like the Dell will outlast the CrapBook as well
Optimised for what???? Browsing the web??? Gimme a break FFS. Stop being an iDumb and wake up. YOUR BEING RIPPED OFF FFS. GROW A BRAIN. Why are the iSheep so dumb????
race me to encode a 4k video. l'll take final cut Pro and you get Adobe suite. Hardwarecannuks did a video on it. It beat his 6 core rig easily. It's also the same with logic Pro x for audio. So much faster. The thunderbolt port on the xps 15 isn't full bandwidth too, meaning that you won't get full speed using external pcie cards or devices. The Macs retina panel is also stunning in comparison to the xps 15's FHD display. Come on, it's not 2010 anymore!
Solid review! Thank you. Having been a macbook user, the moves that Apple is taking lately are really pissing my off. Considering moving back to windows, and Google devices entirely.
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the dell looks pretty outdated considering its from the year 9560
yes, totally xD
haha hilarious
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I would compare the zenbook pro both the. Touch pad and the non touch pad to the mac. Dell really needs to step up on the designs of their scalp tops and put in more ports they are just getting lazy in their designs. The xps13 looks much better than the 15
Maybe people from 9560 like ancient designs xD
I'd buy the Dell everyday of the week, but damn that Macbook looks sexy
A Mac with the XPS internals would literally be the perfect laptop
The choice is pretty easy to make. If you are a fan of mac os, go for the Mac. if you're not, XPS may be a better choice.
Here's the guy who gets it, no need for a butthurt comment
I you're a fan of quality, get the Mac. If you're a fan of shit, get the XPS.
Truth is I'm a fan of macOS and the specs of XPS (or 5520 for that matter), so I'm currently running macOS on my 5510.
Scott Sanett this is actually what i am considering. So sick of my macbook pro. Do you like it?
Lixin Zhang I hate Mac OS , so Im 100% going with an XPS
I use both MacBook Pro 2016 (6700HQ & Radeon Pro 450) and Dell XPS 9560 (7700HQ & GTX 1050 & 4K) which I bought for almost the same amount of money. So far, XPS is the Windows laptop I had the least amount of issues with. There are things I would like to note:
1) While Radeon Pro 450 is quite a nice card for a laptop of this size, obviously GTX 1050 is way ahead when it comes to graphics performance (not to mention it has double the VRAM) and it can handle modern games at medium to high settings (1080p) quite well for a non-gaming laptop. While my Steam library is on an external SSD and I can use either device for gaming anytime, I mostly use XPS for demanding games.
2) While I like the advantage of having four Thunderbolt 3 ports on Mac, being able to connect most current external devices to XPS without hiccup feels nice.
3) 4K screen on XPS is definitely impressive, but my overall favourite is Mac screen. The screen looks true too life as the content looks right over the surface of the screen and 16-10 aspect ratio makes it perfect for any use case making use of more vertical space. Dell has advantage when it comes to gaming and watching movies due to 16-9 aspect ratio though.
4) Thunderbolt 3 port on XPS is a complete joke. I can use my 86 watt Mac charger to power my XPS during most of my work; however, that is pretty much all I can use that port for (plus using my USB-C to ethernet adapter). Its power output is very limited and it cannot even charge my phone at full speed. It only connects to my external SSD half of the times and it provides lower throughput for my external drives compared to the USB-A ports. I'm not sure if this is a software issue but four of my friends using this device has similar issues for months.
5) Keyboard on Mac is quite nice after some getting used to. In fact, I miss Mac's keyboard when I temporarily use another one. XPS keyboard, on the other hand, is not so much a fun to use. None of us in the office seem to like it.
6) Speakers on the Mac is almost perfect for a laptop of this size. I travel a lot and never have I found myself in need of an external speaker in a hotel room. With XPS, headphones are must have.
7) While weight difference looks small on paper, it is quite noticeable if you carry them around quite often. Battery life of the Mac for light workload is much longer but still I can take either device outside without worrying about getting out of juice before I get back home.
Therefore, as a former Apple hater, I seem to enjoy using my MacBook Pro much more than my XPS overall. Both could be good for different use cases though. At the end of the day, it all comes to personal preference.
That intangible Mac enjoyment that you are alluding to is what so many people (including myself, in the past) just don't understand when it comes to comparing a Mac to a windows machine. What makes the Mac user experience so superior to the windows one (not just Dell, but other manufacturers as well), cannot be found in a specs list. And therefore, cannot be understood without having owned both. In my mind it's akin to saying: "Both of these cars will get me to work on time. Why on Earth would I pay an extra $180,000 for the Ferrari over the Kia when both vehicles accomplish the same task?" Until you've owned and used both, you can't possibly even begin to understand what makes one so superior to the other, that one would be willing to pay the premium price difference in order to experience that special something on a daily basis. And to those who would say, "I HAVE tried both! There is no difference!" I would say in response, just because you tried Italian Beluga Hybrid caviar and didn't like it, doesn't mean it isn't worth five times per can more over plain old organic Sturgeon to some people. Now hush, and let them enjoy their caviar. ;)
"What makes the Mac user experience so superior to the windows one (not just Dell, but other manufacturers as well), cannot be found in a specs list."
Because it's a product of your imagination, induced by Apple...
"Until you've owned and used both, you can't possibly even begin to understand what makes one so superior to the other"
Used macs for more than two decades. Try again, fanboy.
If any of your comments also targeted me:
I wasn't trying anything and I am anything but a fanboy. Not to mention that I never said MacBook was better than XPS in every way. After months of usage, I am not ditching either device; however, I know that, unless Apple really screws up the Mac lineup, only another MacBook Pro will replace my current one.
I am also eager to see the detailed reviews of upcoming Asus ZenBook Pro with GTX 1050 Ti. If cooling was as good as advertised, it could be my main Windows machine for work in the future (not this year's model since XPS will probably last long for now).
Well, you obviously don't know much about computers if you think the MBP screen is better than Dell's 4K panel. Brightness is not really what pros are seeking, it's COLOR ACCURACY, and the Dell screen covers 100% Adobe RGB. Apple? Not even close... The rest of your comment is made of very biased opinions and fact-free. BTW, MBP speakers suck too. But then again, you probably think it's all about volume...
Forgive me for thinking, for a minute, that I was actually replying to a reasonable comment. Every word you type screams hater (which btw is just as sad as being a fanboy)!
I never said my comments were facts. Those are my opinions. You, on the other hand, are so much of a hater as to claim that colour accuracy is all about colour gamut and claiming others don't know anything. So let me save you the trouble by going less technical on this and put it simpler for you:
Is the screen on XPS more vibrant? Yes, definitely.
Is it more accurate? Not even close!
Do your homework before you make a public comment like this so you wouldn't embarrass yourself.
Really nice comparison.
Extra £1k isn't worth it in my opinion. Love my XPS 15
Aleksander Senegin sht so your saying quad core 7700hq 16gb ram 1050 won't last 5 years ?
fire killer it's not about the specs it's the quality.
Right, because Apple uses the same parts as any other manufacturer (actually cheaper ones, but fanboys aren't interested in reality...) but they're sprinkled with magic dust... (eyeroll)
Yep. Law of diminishing returns is evident here.
Paolo Pizzi that's not what they mean at all, they mean optimization, look up 4k editing on the 12'' macbook
The main reason why Dell XPS 15 can't be opened by one hand, is because it's made for touch screen which need a stable screen to work. Although it should not be applied on non touch version, if you ever use a 4k touch screen of XPS 15 ( i'm using one ) you will see it makes sense to make laptop like that. A laptop that can be opened by one hand can not have touch screen because when you point your finger, the screen will not stable and it's awkward to use.
True
It can be opened with one finger now with touch screen
I have been praying for this comparison for a long time. Thank you for doing it ;)
And as the RUclips GOD that I am :P I have delivered... :)
Every power bank with USB C PD (PD is very important, otherwise it won't work) Same with MacBooks
praying? why
literally the video I wanted. thanks man. you're great :)
glad you liked it!
Shisui_ Sama_ Dell Power Companion 12,000 mAh
Shisui_Sama_ Fukushima would do
The MBP is still better in most ways to that Dell.
@Per Karlsson hahahahaha. YOU are an Apple-Victim...thats for sure! MacBook Pro has absolutely NO CHANCE against that Dell!
Nice smack down Tom.Thanks.
Also make a smack down between Dell Xps 13 and Macbook pro 13. It would be great.
Mayank Dave till you need to fix it dell service is shit
I think an important consideration I almost never see talked about (especially since the sticking point with Macs often is the price) is that they hold their resale value exceedingly well. I sold my 7 year old MacBook Pro for $500. I will admit that I haven't looked into it, but I'd be shocked if you could sell a 7 year old Dell laptop for that much. Of any specs.
So while you may be paying more for a MBP, they tend to hold their value for a LOT longer and actually age really well too. You're paying more upfront but my personal opinion is they are also a better investment.
PlayingKarrde that's very true
People buying 7-year old hardware for $500 need to be smacked.
The Tech Chap one problem
MBPs GPU makes 56% of the XPSs GPU performence, that makes the differece between them 44%* which is still incredible.
otherwise good review :)
Macs are reliable as hell.
PlayingKarrde I have a 2011 mbp and I can't get more than $300 for it, don't know who is buying your computers but for that age, $300 is about the best you can get
Finally just a nice unbiased fact based review with no clickbait title! You godsend.
Nice structure to the video and you can tell the scripted review pays off, where other channels have just waffled and gone off on a tangent.
Subscribed! Keep the videos coming - the channel will grow!
Ryan Cooper cheers Ryan!
Woah no bias. Actually enjoyable and informative. A fair comparison. Didn't expect it
Give me the build quality of a MBP and the spec and gear of the XPS 15, I'll be in heaven, especially if the webcam go back on the top (I use it more than I imagined).
Charles L'Heureux Zenbook Pro 2017
And MacOS...
PowerhousePR When's the new Zenbook coming out? I remember hearing about it at Computex, but nothing since then.
It's supposed to go out in July, but like every product launch, it's never sure when. That being said, it will be a very good computer. But Already bought my XPS 15 full specs and damn I love it.
AbuBakr Akram July i think at the end
Thanks Tom for doing this comparison.
Definitely a must watch for people deciding on which one to go for.
Excellent comparison! I have been "on the fence" with regard to which of these two really great laptops to purchase. I felt like I honestly couldn't go wrong with either of them. But, one week ago I pulled the trigger and picked up the exact same configuration of the 15" MacBook Pro that you used here for your comparison. Even so, I wasn't entirely certain that I'd made the correct call. I still had doubts. However, after hearing your comments about each of these offerings, I'm comfortable that I made the right choice for me. Even though both are truly superior machines when compared to the "typical" laptop of today, the MacBook ticked more of the important boxes for me than did the XPS. So, you've done me a great service by increasing my comfort level with my MBP 15 purchase decision, and settled finally the debate which had been on-going in my head regarding which of these superb machines to pick up. Thank you! :)
Bradley VanTreese im super uncertain if i want the mbp, I'll need it for college to code and do video editing yet ive been a windows user my whole life. This situation irks me lol
get the XPS 15 then. Unless you wanna develop iOS apps so you can use it on your iPhone :) (unless you have an android lol). I personally develop apps for iOS and its development environment Xcode is very nice and user friendly unlike Android app development, which I also can't test physically on my own device
Nice vid, TC! After 8+ years with MBPs I opted for an XPS 15 4K and haven't looked back.
Thanks so much for making this video. I've got the XPS 15 9550 4k Touch with i7 6700, 512 Samsung 960pro ssd, 16gb ram and was thinking of upgrading it for a Mac as it's really smooth but also the battery life is much better than mine that i've experienced and compared.
However thinking about the os i still prefer windows but the quality on macs are superb!
I guess i'm gonna have to wait for the next generation Mac Pro or XPS haha!
Hi left RUclips playing and the recommendations on the right side of the screen have gotten so much better over the past few years. And it auto-play is on, the top suggestion starts playing automatically.
So I came back in the middle of this demo and this was a pretty good evaluation and comparison. I'm subscribing.
I just wanted to leave you my opinion that I prefer longer videos for especially considering all the information you went over. Individuals use their computers for different things and this was very helpful for someone who needs to buy a new laptop.
Plus on RUclips, you can watch the video again or part of it again, if you need to hear something more than once. Very good comparison! Don't worry about your videos being too long. This was great!
The dell doesn't open with one hand on purpose! If you had the touchscreen model you would appreciate the lack of screen wobble when touching it.
Diogo Almeida There are still a lot of wobbling
one handed hinges are rarely about the hinge design. Its more about the weighting of the base.
mine doesn't, no wobble at all
No they actually are really sturdy. I'd guess you've only tried older MBPs.
+skifree The hinge design plays a role. You can have a not-so-tight hinge to compensate the weight of the base. Ofcause there is a point were you need to stop, but the hinge design definitely plays a role.
Thanks for this review, I was very undecided between these two laptops but your excellent roundup swayed me towards the DELL which has been ordered. In terms of build quality my daily is still a 2009 XPS Studio 17 1640 which has been completely reliable over 9 years so hoping the 9560 will give as good a service.
Ive always been happy to pay a premium for my mac laptops but Apple have lost their grip on reality through greed and or arrogance. Given the sheer volume of critical reviews any sane company would realise that their so called 'Pro' users would rather a proper keyboard, battery life and the currently relevant ports they need to get the job done over another millimeter of height shaved off.
If this was aimed at their trendy mainstream users with lots of money then fine.....But I guess here we have it, Apple see's more money in WOWing the average user who doesn't know or care about any of the things that I do but are still happy to claim they make pro devices for 'pro'fessionals!
Can the Thinnest least useful device race now be over please!
They've lost their way. I still have a 2010 iMac and really want to upgrade, but all the things they've taken off I still use.
super annoyed at tech in general for the fascination with getting as thin as possible. phones and laptops especially need to be fatter for battery and thermal reasons.
Jayme Capurso I totally agree. For the last decade I didn't want any windows computers in the house because I would have to spend time supporting them even though their initial cost was much lower. Lately though, apple's lost ways mean that my last three laptop purchases were Windows computers. Let's hope apple returns to sanity and I won't have to support more windows machine s. However, it is now much easier to totally replace the windows OS even from a virus or other problem by creating a win10 install USB since the computer itself does not lose its license.
I use the MacBook Pro 15 Touch-bar late 2016 model and I love it. I use it for school. I'm a programmer and in my option MacOS beats Windows in the programming department. The terminal is awesome and it's now part of my daily workflow.
So for me the £800 higher price tag is worth it
Great video man. Keep going!
I have the XPS 9550 4k. Love it but hate the design on the bottom half. The carbon fiber is just ugly imo. I would love the infinity edge, internals etc of the xps with the body of a macbook.
Thank you so much for this video because I was in best buy all day confused and just had to leave going back tomorrow
am i the only one thinking that the macbook pro is a little too overpriced?
+Kaito Nakajima: Seriously, $1k AUD for effectively same specs (only difference between an XPS 15 and a MacBook Pro spec-wise is the ever-so-slightly faster i7-7820HQ in the MacBook, and ever-so-slightly faster Nvidia GTX 1070 in the XPS), macOS and build.
You gotta know when to catch the deals. I got my MacBook Pro with 1tb SSD for and faster processor for only 2000$. Also, I guess in US is cheaper. Merica.
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@@TheDragonFire123 And the Dell doesn't throttle and MacBook does right?
Hi Tech Chap, thanks a lot for your videos. I wanted to let you know that your videos were instrumental in my decision buying a Dell XPS 15 a few months ago and I'm really happy with it!! Cheers mate!
Been a windows user and switched to mac 5 years ago. Just because the new gen MBP was no longer upgradeable and even more expensive, thought I'd switch back. So I bought the XPS15. Had some issues installing the drivers, but after 2-3 windows reinstalls over the course of a month, got it pretty stable. I did get the occasional blue screen once in a while but overall it was a decent experience when docked to a monitor with keyboard and mouse. However when used as a laptop, just because the trackpad is so bad and unprecise, it was very frustrating to use. Long story short, I'm back to mu mac (macbook air 2012 and imac 2011) and couldn't be happier. Maybe will get the MBP 13 later this year, but not touchbar (ew). So long story short, the user experience is much better on the mac, haters only see the price difference.
Give the touchbar a chance. You might like it more than you think you will.
I agree laptops hands down MacBook Pro's win, but desktop power windows software is just better.
I totally agree with this. Been rocking a 2011 MBP for a long time and finally am frustrated with out dated ports and lower resolution screen. The MBP I would want to upgrade to is around $2500 and I found a loaded Dell on sale for only $1350 so I decided I'd give it a try. It has such better specs and ports than the MBP and even has a 4k screen. Now that I have it, I noticed it has bad enough edge bleeding issues that I'm going to take it back for exchange, the trackpad is so much worse than a MBP, windows 10 has issues with 4k scaling especially if connected to multiple 1080p monitors which MBPs have never had issues with. I DEFINITELY think the experience is better on the MBP and would love to just get a new one instead but at $2500 I think i'm going to just try to exchange my new Dell in hopes I get a better panel on the next one and deal with the annoyances for the much cheaper price unfortunately.
Yeah! i just got so frustrated with windows so i bought a macbook. Couldn't be more happier :) i don't mind not being able to game on my macbook because i just have a windows game pc at home. Best of both worlds
Good stuff. After nearly 10 years with Macbook Pros I switched to XPS. Price and upgradeability where my deciding factors.
Just bought a Macbook Pro, damn it is gorgeous and run smoothly.
lol no, mac book is more expensive
stop beeing a apple fanboy
Daniel Briquez He didn't say "damn it is gorgeous and run smoothly and is cheaper" so why bring up price if he didn't? Price isn't the only factor - clearly he cares about design and product feel. This may come as a shock to you but different people have different opinions and values than you.
Quit being an apple hater.
Local Drug Dealer when you said mate, i laughed out loud. Your tone just sets it
Nice balanced review. One thing that I must add, Macs last longer than any Windows competition. My MBP is running almost 6 years now, showing battery issues. Few cons for me: touchbar, ports & pricing!
I have both machines at home. The Macbook wins in pretty much all the aspects that I care about:
- Design
- Display
- Trackpad
- Keyboard
- Build quality
- Overall battery life
- Fan noise
- Portability
- Sound quality: Speakers + Audio jack
Dell wins:
- Gaming performance
- I personally still prefer Windows
iropod only gaming performance?
Ok, I forgot the lack of an SD Card and HDMI port on the Mac. But other than that? I can not think of anything at the moment.
iropod Mac also has the latest I/O thunderbolt 3
The Macbook is hands down the better device, XPS has too many compromises...
dell does too lol
Best reviews on youtube! Quick, clear voice, informative!
You had me at the price. 2 essentially identically performing laptops and 1 is £1,000 cheaper. No contest.
I'm also over Apple's fetish for slimness and having to buy x number of dongles to get the machine to do what I need it to.
Christopher Tilley 2 essentially identically performing laptops??? Did you watch the video?
PowerhousePR Yes, I did. Their performance is comparable and would both do day to day work really well. All you have to decide is how much you're prepared to pay.
On the other side of the world in Australia due to our tax they are pretty much the same price with the Dell even costing a bit more
Jas M Really? Can you please share where you get your Macbooks from? I'm from Australia too and recently looked for a new laptop and Macs were more expensive, by a couple hundred dollars at least. The 15inch XPS with 4k touch display and core i7, 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD is $3199 on Dell's website (on sale ATM though down to $2710). While the 15inch MBP touch bar and i7 processor, and same storage/memory Config is $4099. That's still a $900 difference. Until the i7 models of the Macs just came out recently, they had the older i5 processors and were about the same price as the i7 Dell XPS. But now the new Macs are a lot more expensive.
Umm. The 2016 MBP 15 also has the i7 but its 6th gen. I don think they use i5 in MBP 15. But, I think it is all down to the preferences. There are people prefer MacOs and Mac products in general and there are people love windows with higher or equal spec but lower price. I think when people are looking at laptops that are over $3000. They want to buy what they want. I don't think many of them will change their mind due to the slight price gap. Thats my $0.02 anyway. I personally have been using MacOs for 8 years now and no plan to change in the near future. I brought my MBP 15 $800 cheaper than RRP. Brand new as well xD.
This guy did a very good job reviewing the laptops, because he isn't biased at all, which is very vital to a good review
i bought macbook pro touch bar 2017 , then in just 4 days the screen is flickering , i returned it to apple , they change it a new one , but when my girlfriend told me that her macbook touchbar 2016 is always laggy and sometimes restarting , I just told apple to refund my money , they refunded it . now i just bought dell xps 15 4k touchscreen and using it for 2 months now and im loving it .
manolet torreno Hey mate, this is the exact laptop I am planning to buy. I am really curious about any deal breakers so I would be glad if you point me to the quirks you've experienced. Also, some people claim that they have experienced burn in, and CPU throttling while gaming, have you experienced the same?
Sam Freeman after using the laptop for a few months more . I experienced battery failure . But it fixed when they changed the battery . That's just the problem of mine . But its all fine now . Cause I use it for games editing and alot of things maybe that's the reason of battery failure . But over all never experience anything . All smooth amd good .
manolet torreno never had those problems. My mbp still runs like a bull
Mario I feel like his comment is bs, because Apple products are known for being the ones having the least problems out of all tech products there is. I don‘t believe him
Alex Kim same
Nicely done. I purchased the Dell XPS 15 in the following configuration. I use DaVinci Resolve 14 for editing my 4K RUclips videos and I'm quite pleased with the performance I'm getting. I got the 4K screen as it's important for me to see my videos in 4K.
Dell XPS 15 9560 Signature Edition
i7-7700HQ Quad Core Processor (6M cache, 3.8 GHz)
32 GB RAM DDR4-2400MHz
NVIDIA GTX 1050 4 GB DDR5
1 Terabyte PCIe SSD
3840 x 2160 4K Infinity Edge Screen
Windows 10 Pro
I'm in love with the MacBook 💻
Build quality is pretty dope
RICKY SEKHON desire. Except it's expensive..hmmn
Price ain't so dope.
This is an awesome video, thank you! I've been waiting on a MacBook Pro that I ordered on May 12th, and almost canceled the order for the Dell XPS 15. It theoretically gets here sometime this week. Glad I didn't cancel it!
Thanks! Glad you liked it :)
I think 1080p, 300 nits and sRGB is more than enough on a portable device. If I would need anything more accurate for content creation I would probably hook it up to an external monitor but for on the go I don't need anything more. Oh and I think a touch screen is only useful if the laptop can be used in a tablet form.
Overall if Final Cut Pro is not a viewpoint I see no reason to buy the MacBook Pro, maybe the design of its body is the only thing I like about it. The touch bar is kinda meh and I don't see the point of that huge touchpad. Not trying to be an Apple hater or anything, those are only my thoughts.
Look, the de-facto standard every professional editor uses nowadays is Premiere (with DaVinci gaining more and more in popularity.) It makes absolutely no sense to compare rendering in FCP on a mac to rendering in Premiere on a windows machines. Pros use Premiere or DaVinci, and the computer running windows will ALWAYS render faster, given similar internals.
But Apple fanboys are no professionals. They're just spoiled children who love to feel superior to the rest of humanity, so they'll find whatever excuse to claim that their machine is better and willingly lie or disinform. So, you just get a mac because the software is "optimized", and the "proof" is that FCP renders much faster than Premiere. Except that has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO with the OS. Premiere simply isn't the fastest-rendering editor. And there are windows programs that render faster than FCP (like Power Director.) And they're not "optimized", since they're not made by Microsoft. And yet they beat Apple's "optimized" FCP... Proof that MacOS's "optimization" is just another empty buzzword...
Well, for single projects like yt FCP is still a great option. It lacks nothing and it's a heck of a lot faster.
And even though I agree that the touchbar isn't the most innovative thing ever, it is still helping me so much for little things like adjusting brightness, volume and music play, it's better than it seems
"It lacks nothing and it's a heck of a lot faster."
It lacks plenty and that's why it's not the de-facto industry standard that Premiere is. And the fact that it renders faster than Premiere means nothing. Power Director on Windows is even faster than FCP when it comes to rendering. And no, since it's not made by MS, it's not "optimized." Which kinda proves that Apple's "optimization" is yet another stinking pile of BS...
Well, if you use premiere, you need a pc expensive as shit to smoothly playback and scroll through heavily edited 4k footage. and talking about power director, I never see around who ever uses that, so I don't see the point in bringing that up, and you're basically contradicting yourself about the point that no pro uses final cut and makes you look like you just want to prove in some way that the system you don't use is shit
300 nits is not really enough for using your laptop outdoors.
Highly underrated channel.
Keep up the good work!
Think is a good comparasion man, congrats for the video! In my opinion Mac justs worth it if you need OSX and it's exclusive programs. Windows is not the best OS, i prefer OSX, but for the price, think Dell deffinetly worths it. In fact, I bought the same XPS 15 last week!!
SẻGio3Xx How’s the performance? Mine will arrive next week but recently I’ve seen A LOT of people conplaining about it :(
Hi Luna! I use it for Premiere Pro & Phothoshop. Is simply amazing. For me is one of the best laptops in the market in spite of it uses Windows (Windows 10 isn´t bad at all but i still prefer OSX) :D
SerGio3Xx I also use Photoshop on it, After Effects, too, thanks to your reply, I don’t feel regret anymore! And I wonder did you update drivers, intel, etc like other users reccomend?
Luna Do No problem! Hahaha :D Yes! All is updated on my pc :D
Rant: Stop calling it OS X. It's macOS now.
Excellent comparison. Certainly addressed multiple concerns I had regarding the new MBP. Cheers!
watching this with my new xps 15 9560 :)
Rav H can you share your experiences with this laptop please?
Did a clean install and that's it super quick. I had the a400 SanDisk ssd shipped with mine which is fine for me. Good quality although my screen had dead pixels so getting that replaced tomorrow but no biggie. All in all I'm happy. Takes some time for me getting used to the track pad and enter key as it's quite small in my opinion. I think you'd be very happy with full HD screen with amazing battery life.
thank you for sharing your experience.cheers
You poor thing. I hope it doesn't break on you.
Why poor thing? It's been great, best laptop I've had. 9-12 hours battery life, clean install, light weight, powerful. Perfect for my needs and very reliable. I'm yet to get any issues at all. ;)
Crisp, unbiased and to the point .. not to mention very well explained.. good job man..
Honestly MacBooks are the best.
Just lovely to use and work so well.
The only thing is the price.
So if you have the money - buy the Mac.
If you don't have the money - buy the best Windows Laptop.
Also Windows are better for gaming and certain third party apps.
If you are a general user and just want a great laptop. I'd choose the Mac. Mainly because it's got a high resale value, it's a pleasure to use, it looks and sounds great and it remains fast for years and years.
The problem with Windows is the reduced performance in later years.
spot on comparison!! really appreciate the unbiased take on both these laptops...keep up the great work.. cheers!
you aren't even comparing apples to apples
Zeyd Uysal he's comparing apples to windows ;)
I do appreciate your fair comparison of both laptops
Nice work out
Why the hell would you not put the dell and it's native video editing app, against Mac and IT'S native video editing app? Huge opportunity missed.
I found your channel randomly scrolling around RUclips. I really liked how you presented your comparisons and how you told which one is better with respect to people's priorities( Keyboard, Display, etc). Overall, a great video! I hope you get more subscriptions and achieve heights of success. Cheers!
Thanks anmol :)
As tech is getting better humans are getting lazier...opening a screen with one hand?? Should that be an issue for anyone..ever? and for that reason.. am out MacBook nothing extra justifies the extra $1000
Kenneth Gitau Its not about being lazy. Its very premium feeling and you come to enjoy it after owning it.
I have watched a ton of xps vs macbook pro 15 inches and this is the best one I've seen. I don't subscribe that much but I was very satisfied so I did.
Can't speak for the MacBook, but the XPS does have some serious driver issues I really hope Dell addresses before the end of the year. The keyboard sucks and the space bar has response issues that several people including myself have noticed. And those speakers are really, really bad. Just the fucking worst. I've already had to replace the speakers because one of them blew out. Good thing the laptop is easy to open. So long as you have the correct screw drivers.
Still a solid laptop believe it or not. If the driver issues would be addressed soon, I will definitely feel much better about dropping some much money on this thing.
The best review I had ever watch on this matter, covers everything u can think about.
Thank u
The xps has a lot of bad reviews on Amazon, only on RUclips has good reviews... I don't know
Alejandro Medina Acevedo yeah I know, im really wanting to buy this but the mixture of good and bad reviews really turns me off
Always a risk of false negatives, on either laptop. I personally don't factor user reviews that much, but some people do, so...
Had one. Example? Most XPS 15 they sent to reviewers where with fast Samsung SSD. Most sent to customers are cheaper brand with slow SSD. I had FHD screen with color shift, slow to load (almost 25sec)... But MacBooks have theirs own issue. If something goes wrong and you are out of warranty, get ready to sell an arm or a leg.
bad reviews are usually from hardcore gamers. The GTX 1050 Ti is weaker than most gaming laptops in the same price range
Surprised by the ending. You're right though, price does matter when one is nearly twice the price as the other. Well done.
Press F to pay respect
I just bought the top end spec of 9560: 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM with 4k touch screen. Just over £1500 inc VAT from the Dell Outlet store (factory seconds or returns, with a warranty). That was including VAT. Comes with Win 10 Home, which I will probably want to upgrade to benefit from being able to run Hyper-V machines. But if you are looking for a cheap way of getting one of these machines, I think it's a good idea to wait for one of the Dell Outlet store's 15% off deals on XPS, like I did last week. Looking forward to getting it into my hands. Great review!
Just love the way MacBook runs, so smoothly and a fan of the iOS system. Don’t known why people always have complain about it, maybe it is too expensive, but absolutely choose MacBook if you have money
MacOS system you mean? ... iOS is just on the iphones ;)
you give the most honest reviews...
you posted it lol, that was fast,you held your word
You really know how to make a good comparison. I am so sick of people who are strict fan boys.
Do you know when the Asus Zenbook 3 deluxe is released? And if you'll do a video on it? I was just wondering because for me it seems like a perfect balance of the XPS and MacBook. It'd be nice to know what you think
Q3 I'm told - definitely looking forward to that one
It's not in the same category. A low voltage CPU, no dedicated GPU, and only three ports.
Tams80 Yeah spec wise it's similar to the lower end of the MacBook range. Plus it's been marketed as an "ultra book" which I'd say is the same as the XPS and MacBook. Mainly just want to see what TechChap thinks of it tbh 😏
You might be talking about the Zenbook Pro UX550 ,not the one you mentioned
That will probably be it for this year, as for the zenbook pro it is going to come with a 1050ti and more battery 14 hrs for the 1080p version and most likey 8-9 hrs for the 4k version and fast charging
finally someone who's really honest and don't take labels as a priority thanks man !!!great video
Could you compare the surface laptop or Lenovo yoga 910 to MacBook Pro 2017?
I'll be reviewing the Surface laptop next week :)
Why? Macbooks are are over priced junk.
As an owner of both, I find that the yoga is a cheaper option for the same laptop. You're paying extra for a mac with the same specs.
The surface laptop is a piece of shit. Even Luis Rossman hates that thing.
just the video i needed. doing research on what to buy for video editing and these 2 came out on top. my experiences with windows laptops haven't been great, so i'm swaying more towards the macbook to try something new
I have a question... Why do we need web cams on laptops? Why not just removing them?? Skype is dead, and for people who need it just use your phones camera because its way better. I have not used my web cam in ages and right now I have it disabled, that's how little I care about it. What do you think?
i think in official conference meeting people tend to use webcam rather than the one on the phone
Just because you don't use Skype doesn't mean millions of other people don't...
Kyle Golden skype is pretty dead ....
Tolmoli not really. Webcams/Skype are still useful for business people (I'm a business student). It would be awkward to only talk to a person in a meeting on a phone.
skype is dead? lol ok
Great info, thank you. I switched from MacBook Pro to XPS 15. So glad I did. Premiere Pro, Photoshop, PreSonus Studio One all run fine. Going from Mac OS to Windows 10 was not as bad as I thought it would be. The webcam and the trackpad were a bit of a disappointment, but definitely not deal breakers. For about $50 I got a Logitech webcam, which is better than either laptop.
I do love Apple but £2700!!! WTF Apple!!!
This should be £1900 Max.
Even £1900 is very expensive.
The 13" model is much cheaper.
I'm glad you mentioned one-handed opening. It's something that bothers me (more than it should) about many modern PC laptops, so much so that I don't want to upgrade from my 2012 model XPS 15. As far as I'm aware, that was the last XPS model I could open one-handed.
MBP 2017 and DDR3 Ram? are you shitting me? for 2700 pounds? rofl
Good Video..Nice comparison. Just bought the Dell XPS 15 over the weekend. Was thinking about moving over to an Apple laptop, but after doing some research I decided the Dell XPS will serve my needs best. Mostly doing Video Editing....Nice Review!
Apple isn't blinded by simply speed. They work harder on stability and consistency. I have several win7-10 computers and laptops sitting around the house. But for work and getting shit done - Apple all the way.
Chase Vineland yeah and well designed. It almost never breaks down
and how much did those windows ones cost? Did you get one that costs nearly or the same as that macbook? ;)
Or did you get one loads cheaper to bash on quality?
Apple never wins vs windows. Never ever!!!! If you install linux on a much chipper windows computer you have a similar performance like a mac which is a moddified linux program. Linux computer use a small resurses vs a windows computer!!! If you want a fair play comparation put a windows on a apple computer an run test. If you make a compration to a top apple product vs ASUS ROG G752VS-XS74K OC Edition the winner is Asus and cost 2400 dollars!!! Like a said apple vs a windows computer never ever wins!!!
@gonciu Bogdan Except gaming because only 1/5 pc games are compatible with mac.
I can't say the same about my experience with Macs. MacOS is great, but my MacBook Pro had numerous problems and cost me hundreds to keep up and running. That and Apple's recent decisions (the gimmicky TouchBar, the axing of essential ports, the killing of MagSafe), leave me looking to Windows again.
bought a XPS 15 (2017,4K variant of the version in the video) a while ago, was thinking about selling it because the new Kaby Lake in the MBP, but never mind after watching this amazing video comparison, thanks!
The fact that the laptop was imbalanced and the screen darkens isn't just a nuisance. These are HUGE issues with build quality, and those two things alone IMO are enough to disqualify this Dell as a good purchase.
Exactly right. I bought an XPS 13 (top spec Kaby Lake) and had horrendous issues with coil whine, a notorious problem with the XPS laptops. The XPS also had issues with the trackpad, audio static/hiss, and it wouldn't stay asleep in sleep mode. I returned it. The Dell XPS seems like a good purchase in terms of price and spec, but you simply aren't getting the same build quality or ease of use as a MacBook Pro.
And also notice when demonstrating the 'spongy' keys on the dell, when he pressed in on the keyboard the entire assembly bowed inward? That's another clear sign of poor build quality.
You could just get the 4k IPS display from dell, and you would still be saving allot of money over a mac. Thats why I commented earlier saying that a better comparison would have been getting the fully speced dell laptop, and then tried to find the closest priced mac laptop, although as you saw for a thousand dollars less than the mac you get a more powerful machine with the dell, for 150$/180$ more you could get the better 4k display, and also investing another $200, or maybe a little less you could even get a better graphics card, and you would still be saving 500-600$ or maybe more, and have a real high end machine, I'm not saying that the Dell in this video is not a high end machine, because it is, but just for a little more you could get a beast of a machine, and still be saving allot over a mac.
It's not all just about specs and raw power. If that's what you want, get a desktop.
Yeah I know its also about the fact that your over paying for hardware thats under powered, and on top of all that the mac book pro has allot of issues, and these issues have been found by hardcore apple fan boys, not just people that hate apple for no real reason other than to hate, the problems people are having is the track pad apparently gets pressed accidentally making you start typing in a different area on the screen, the Battery, also the ports have problems at times as well, and with certain devices certain ports don't work at all, also the lack of a card reader, and allot of other premium features have been taken away as well. The Mac book pro as it is now isn't even something that should be recommended to die hard apple fans, also for a thousand dollars less you could get a laptop thats more powerful, and has all the ports you want, and a card reader, and a good dedicated graphics card, and if you payed the same price as the mac book laptop you would be getting a laptop thats a beast in every scenario you throw at it, but even if you decided you wanted to save just $500 or $600 you would be getting a beast of a gaming/ work/ Video editing laptop. Also if you wanted to put apples OS on it, you could do that later on as well, or just use Linux or partition your harddrive/SSD and have Windows and either mac OS or a version of Linux. Also with a mac budget you could get a 4k IPS display, an I7, 16GB or 32GB of DDR4 RAM, and a GTX 1080 , and one or two SSDs, and a 7200RPM hard drive, which would make a nice laptop that could do basically anything you wanted, game on ultra, work/video edit fast, so basically anything you threw at it it could handle.
Great narrator, great video
Not a word on the fact that the MBP is limited to 16 gigs of RAM and whatever SSD it comes with? If you edit 4K content professionally, working with 32 gigs of RAM DOES make an awful lot of difference. And yes, Apple as usual will not pick the best GPU, just the one they get a great deal on from the manufacturer, usually by sheer blackmail (that's why they always pick second-tier AMD...), so that instead of passing the savings to the customer they can squeeze him/her even more.
But, as usual, Apple is not really targeting the niche of actual media pros who'd get pretty upset by being treated like children and told what's good for them (as if Apple actually knew it...), but rather the millions of rich (more often than not simply wannabe-rich) poseurs all over the world who buy that brand to feel superior to the rest of humanity. And who typically spend their lives blogging at Starbucks and looking down on peons who dare to not subscribe to the Apple cult.
Oh, and BTW, the XPS15 with the 4K screen is MASSIVELY more color-accurate than the MBP. As in 100% Adobe RGB coverage... Once again, it may be trivial for the blogger who sits pretty at Starbucks behind his/her symbol of opulence, but not for the actual media professional. Screen brightness isn't really important, as no pro editor would ever work under the sun.
Michael Garry Here's old xenophobic, demented, fucking stalker who can't even type my name correctly as usual hating on me for not being an Apple cultist while totally incapable of discussing the technical points. Yeah, a moron like you doesn't need a powerful machine, anything you do you can do on a $300 laptop. And that is relevant how? Yeah, I forgot you're just a fucking stalker...
Michael Garry And how's your Mac a more "well rounded" machine by losing to the XPS in every category? Like I said, if you don't need computing muscles, just buy something like an Inspiron... Come on fanboy, we're not dumb like you and we've witnessed your hatred for the "infidels" directed to not only me but anyone who dares to make fun of your cult...
Michael Garry The windows desktop. Yeah, like anyone here is dumb enough to believe you...
"the Mac won in most other categories"
Such as what? Design? That's subjective and only idiots like you care about design. Apple fanboys believe that computers are fashion accessories, LOL...
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH sorry fanboy, you're just too dumb and clueless to understand that what this guy is reviewing is NOT the top-of-the-line XPS15 I own. Compare the pathetic and overpriced MBP15 to my model and it loses in each and every category. I have a 4K screen, which has 100% Adobe RGB. Apple doesn't even come close. And the SSD in the 32-gig model is the faster Samsung PM951, which smokes the cheap crap Apple solders on the mobo.
Now please tell me that you don't need 32 gigs and a 4K screen (you would hailed those as fantastic if Apple only had them, you are like a child...) and you would still look like an idiot for buying a MBP instead of a Dell Inspiron 15, which costs less than half and STILL smokes the Apple joke since it has a powerful 1050ti GPU.
Gotta love how you never miss any opportunity to show off how utterly incompetent and clueless you are, fanboy...
And no, I don't believe a word of what you're saying. Like all Apple fundamentalists, you're here to hate on anyone who criticizes your cult. And you people are so dumb, you all repeat the same lies. Yeah, each and every one of you has Windows and Android devices, only to say that they're crap or inferior to anything Apple. Funny how in the same message you claim to own a Dell desktop and at the same time claim that Dell, Samsung, HP and any other brand you want to claim you use are utter crap. Don't insult my intelligence, fanboy. Keep programming stupid games for iDiots, that perfectly suits you. But, like I said, you could do that with a $400 laptop...
If you're a gamer then buying a MacBook is definitely still an option for you. What this video failed to mention is the MacBook's ability to install and run a Windows partition as well as a Mac OS partition. I have done this on my own MacBook Pro 2012 model, and it runs Windows games great on my Windows partition (and installing Windows is easy using Apple's own included Bootcamp software).
I looove seeing angry fanboys get mad at Apple fans simply because Apple consumers don't see things the way they do. Really shows, the narrow world some people live in
Okay, spend your $3k.
Love the fact that you choose the matte XPS. Are there any other 15" matte Windows laptops?
I have the 2015 version of the xps. I think it's the 9550 version. still infinity display. it's a brilliant laptop. but it's riddled with QC issues. motherboard replaced twice. fan replaced once. and now my trackpad is about to come off. how did that happen? God knows. also I can't use my Samsung earphones with my xps. in retrospect, I still would have chosen the xps. price is great and they honour their warranty well.
Same here, I have MBP 15 2016 and only problem is that keyboard had to be changed, b key was repeating itself. My wife is an Apple hater :) and proud owner of 2016 XPS, USB-C hub was a waste of money, as they never developed proper drivers for it and discontinued, funny thing I can use it with MBP, no problems. Motherboard was replaced, battery was replaced, touchpad was replaced.
It has tinny rubbish sound from the back of laptop, but 4K screen is glorious. Put a screen protector on it and it will remove the gloss. After this screen is better than MBP.
Owned the Dell xps 15 9330 which was a great and fast laptop but was also riddled by the issues you describe. After replacing my motherboard (3!) times i gave up and sold it. I payed 1800 dollars for that laptop and it was the biggest dissapointment ever. I won't fall for their specs and look again. Dell should fix the issues instead of just releasing new ones every year.
I don't speak english well, and realized very little. But I understood You didn't say aboute OS. This is the best in MacBook. I bought the Mac my son. He said three months later that he would never return to Windows again. Thank You.
Honestly: I find this comparison pretty senseless. I buy a Mac because I want to use Mac OS X and because I do not want to use Windows. So, I do not have a choice. Thus, although the hardware can be compared it doesn't make much sense.
A fair few people (myself included), are happy to use either Windows or MacOS, in which case it comes down to which is the nicer/better laptop to use.
Hmm, okay, I see you point. Thanks for the video!
You could use Linux
indeed, ElementaryOS is very similar to MacOS
you have to think what you need to do, and I pretty sure you can do exactly the same things in both OS, but paying much more on one of them. At least if you use as a productive element, not like a luxury accessory.
Good review. I just got my XPS 15 with a 1TB drive. I went for the XPS because i can run Linux on it alongside with Windows. It makes it alot more useful for me.
Get a Dell, you won't be disappointed
Experience?
Writing from my Dell XPS 15, I love it but it's definitely not perfect. Wake up time is slower than Mac in my experience, screen a little less bright, speakers not great. I love the soft touch (I hated resting my hands on cold aluminum), I prefer the keyboard, small bezels, and I now prefer windows to Mac OS. I would be happy with either laptop but for the price, I'll stick with Dell.
I disagree, Splash. The issue I have always had with Dells (both employer issued and one I purchased for personal use) is the "fit & finish". Aside from the fact that Tom's machine wouldn't even sit flush on a flat surface when he first received it, and the fact that the palm rest is already changing colors on him, I have had multiple instances of the finish wearing off, fading and "chipping" to various degrees on the XPS 15 I owned previously. In fact, the quality issues I experienced with my most recent Dell is what prompted me to even start considering the MacBook option. The tech specs on the XPS are quite good in my opinion, but the build quality has a ways to go to equal even a Lenovo or an Asus, let alone a MacBook. Perhaps if Dell offered something akin to Apple Care I might feel differently. But, they do not.
www.amazon.co.uk/HP-17-w200na-i7-7700HQ-Dedicated-Graphics/dp/B01N0ST9AP/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1496426531&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx%2B1070%2Blaptop&th=1 get something like this then?
Daniel Phalen The cold aluminum helps better for CPU performance.
Just for those who are wondering.... the metal body was not the issue on the xps 15... it's the rubber pads on the bottem... just put some pressure on it and it will be fine
I prefer macbook
Fine, but I don't see any reason to spend an extra 1k AUD to get one over an XPS 15...
Sure, sure... I already tried one, and I still prefer a Windows machine. :)
But hey, as long as you don't bash people over their preferred OS, then liking macOS is cool.
why?
I'm still using my 2014 mid MacBook pro retina which I got in December 2014. It's still running buttery smooth and I haven't ran into any issues other then programs and a few games which only run for Windows.
Seriously: I buy a MBP because it makes more sense to me have the best Software & Hardware it just work!
ask an applecare rep if Apple hardware & software "Just Works" no it don't
+Tweegyblink: Windows machines don't crash as often as you think. This one I'm typing this one I can't remember a BSOD on.
Although, macOS does make the OS harder to break.
Man, your reviews are great.
Dell = galaxy
Macbook = iPhone
Hit like if you get it :)
I use S8, S7e and Dell XPS 15! You are damn right. I used to be an apple fanboy, how sad.
Well... Dell is not gonna explode like galaxy.
What about huawei :)
What if your phone is a galaxy and laptop is a MacBook
This really helped me in deciding on a new machine to edit video with. Thank you
Dell XPS 15 vs very expensive mousepad
In Dave Lee's videos
Ace Wayyz Hahahahaha totally agreed 😂
Ace Wayyz well said 👍👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Gotta love these exaggerated sensational fanboy comments. A "very expensive mousepad"? Have you actually used a Mac?
I would rather burn the 2700 dollar/pounds/euro's than ever spend it on a mac. I can build a crazy good pc for half that price that will put your stupid mac to shame xD
I decide to buy the 15' MacBook Pro 2017, because the track pad is stunning amazing!
Why does nobody ever mention how shitty Windows OS is? It slows down over time and gets nasty virus when you insert pen drive from school lab. -_-
RUclipsguy thats sad, never have a virus for over 5 years tho on my windows pc
Maybe because people are too busy USING Windows to get shit done instead of trolling YT and bashing another OS cuz the one they have doesn't do shit... I'm writing this on my hand-me-down late-2011 MBP 13 FYI. Fine laptop, decent as a consumer device (though 3rd-party codec support is shit compared to Windows), but restrictive sluggish sandboxed junk of an OS. Finder is just an embarrassment of a file manager compared to Explorer out of the box.
NOT TRUE,I got a Dell laptop in 2012 which started with Windows 7,now it's still upgradeable and haven't catch any virus,you need to take care of the system carefully :)
Windows does age pretty well. If it weren't for RAM overflow due to people opening up too many tabs, this computer I'm typing this on runs pretty well.
I too tried the XPS 15 vs the MBP 15 and it was just too hard to justify the extra cost for the MBP. I really loved the MBP form factor but the nail in it's coffin was everything soldered to the board, at least with the Dell I can swap out the memory, hard drive and even the wifi card. That was what kicked me over the edge to the Dell, which I currently have the 9560 top of the range with a fresh install that makes the Dell run a lot smoother.
Macbooks are overpriced JUNK. So limited with what you can do and can ONLY go up to 16gb ram, at the time you purchase it. There's NO upgrading it afterwards. . One thing you forgot to mention is with the Dell XPS 15 is that you can open it up and upgrade the RAM to 32GB and upgrade the SSD. Thats right you can open it up, take out the SSD thats in there and put in a larger capacity one. You can even open it up, take out the RAM thats in there and replace it with new larger capacity RAM. Cant do that with the crapBook. Thats a MASSIVE bonus. So looks like the Dell will outlast the CrapBook as well
Dick Jones apple's osx and more specifically optimization is far better than windows in my opinion.
Optimised for what???? Browsing the web??? Gimme a break FFS. Stop being an iDumb and wake up. YOUR BEING RIPPED OFF FFS. GROW A BRAIN. Why are the iSheep so dumb????
race me to encode a 4k video. l'll take final cut Pro and you get Adobe suite. Hardwarecannuks did a video on it. It beat his 6 core rig easily. It's also the same with logic Pro x for audio. So much faster. The thunderbolt port on the xps 15 isn't full bandwidth too, meaning that you won't get full speed using external pcie cards or devices. The Macs retina panel is also stunning in comparison to the xps 15's FHD display. Come on, it's not 2010 anymore!
Oh btw. *You're. Wrong use of pronoun.
Oh and one more thing. Race me to play a game LMAO. Poor iDumb
A very detailed review, thank you.
Solid review! Thank you. Having been a macbook user, the moves that Apple is taking lately are really pissing my off. Considering moving back to windows, and Google devices entirely.
Thank you for this review, it was a great, non bias, fair comparison.