Columbia students representing Jewish and pro-Palestinian sides speak about protests
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- Columbia students Nadia Ali and Parker De Deker describe the atmosphere of the Ivy League campus amid calls for a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war and the harassment of Jewish students. NBC News’ Tom Llamas talks with the students about their opposing perspectives on the increasing exchange of antisemitic and Islamophobic rhetoric.
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#Protests #Jewish #IvyLeague
a message of peace doesn't call for the destruction of a country
Yeah, forget about Gaza literally being destroyed....
@@rayzor5289 it’s a war that Hamas started. Nobody batted an eye when Germany was destroyed in WW 2.
@@phytology Israel started it before October 7th. Are you really comparing October 7th to the Houlocaust? Don' be that person....
Because it's Islam. @@phytology
Our government is sending money for genocide
Crazy how History repeats itself, how fast the world forgets!!
Forgets? It was quite misinformed the first time.
@@MyPrecious5366million Jews didn’t get slaughtered?
@@MyPrecious536since I got censored the first time, 6million Jews weren’t slaughtered?
@@MyPrecious5366million Jews weren’t killed?
Yeah it has repeated itself everywhere jews have ever gone. Must be everybody else's fault.
He needed to film the attack and report them to the police. This is unacceptable for him to experience hate.
😂 did you believe him? He is Jewish.
Lol
palestinians are filming the slaughter of 15,000 children in the mean time, all families vanishing
The lady is practicing the infamous deceit according to Islam called kitman. Jews are openly hated by Muslims and if you read hamas charter, it talks about complete eradication of Jews. Palestinians will share the same sentiments.
that is not possible, it is made up
This freshman performs much better than the Ph.D. student.
he’s reading off a script on his screen.
@@SultanBarbossamuslim mind
No don’t think so I think Protesting against genocide trumps peoples feelings being hurt
@@Bigotsstaymad your feelings do not trump my rights of being safe.
@@kasperrator4153 I am truly sorry for u. I live in a country that has no guns. But if I lived in a country where they bombed me and my
Family non stop I would have strong feelings about that.
They emphasized that he is Jewish, but not that Nadia is an immigrant from an Arab country.
*Wow, so many likes and comments, but nobody understood why I wrote it. The reason I emphasized her Arab/Muslim origin was to make people see that the Jews are being attacked and blamed mainly by Muslims and their supporters just for being Jews. I guess that Nadia and other pro Palestinians would never protest against Muslim countries or their citizens in which people are really getting murdered on purpose, not as casualties as happens in Gaza, but on purpose, such as in Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan etc. Their own Muslim leaders have murdered their own citizens! But it's easy to protest against Jews, who have only one Jewish country, and who are threatened daily for the past 100 years in Israel with terror attacks. Read some history!
the interviewer is egregiously biased, asking the jewish student how he feels, what he would need to feel safe, what his reaction is, etc. more than Nadia was asked
Arab IS NOT Ethnic . the Word Arab from Hebrew is Arav or Aravah means the Desert. so whoever lives in the Desert it was called Arab. Thanks.😗😗
well, it's an interview about him being attacked because he's jewish.
@@chihiro____because they are being attacked daily and she is not? 🤷🤷♀️🤷🏾♂️
Do you not know what is going on??? @@chihiro____
Both students have spoken wee. All Lives Matter. They gave me hope for humanity
I think most PLO supporters are so elated about October 7th. They never mention the innocent Israelis who were murdered and tortured and mutilated. Without that how can u expect to have peace talks ?
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but the visual of her being in the studio and him in a basement was significant to me.
She is a PhD student and he is a freshman
He probably can’t leave his room. Or he has already left campus like many other Jews
I don't think it was significant to anyone of them.
@@Diskurswerfer are you stupid? She was prioritized by this media outlet. Did you watch her body language. She would have slit his throat if she had the chance.
Because he has to hide from the proterrrorist called pro Palestine.
One on one they can talk to each other in a civil manner, but mobs cannot do that.
Well it's also because they are both against Israel response, so they basically agree. It's easy to be respectful, in fact it's difficult not to be even if you want it, if you agree.
@@nefaristo I recently saw a TED talk one on one between a Palestinian and an Israeli man. Both lost immediate family due to the violence on and after October 7th. This was powerful.
Yet nothing is done about the genocide. But since the protests started people are starting to pay more attention. Are people just meant to have a civil discussion when they see genocide happening?
@@Beanyamin0
There is no genocide. It has warned civilians to evacuate, sent millions of leaflets, text messages and phone calls, and also secured humanitarian passes and fighting pauses during the war.
Hamas committed a genocide in October 7th, and they filmed it all. You're welcome to watch it.
@@jonathan3488 Then how do you explain the mass graves found at multiple hospitals filled with civilians, doctors, nurses, patients and children with their hands tied behind their backs? Were leaflets supposed to save them from being executed?!?
October 7 ? Hostages? Where is 133 hostages being held in hamas dungeons ?
0:28-0:54 but don't watch 0:55 ceasefire lol. Gazan 🇵🇸 to IDF 🇮🇱: 'We must take down the heads of Hamas. Don't leave this place! People are stupid and do not understand anything. What are we to do with all of this? This is all because of Sinwar and Haniyeh. Haniyeh eats at restaurants in Turkey. And Sinwar eats hidden underground. They eat meat while we eat bullets.'
They're relaxing at Epstein Island 🏝
Where are the 2000+ Palestinian hostages? Which 500-700 of them are children? Do you think Hamas has hostages for no reason?
What about before October 7 since 1917 ?
Where are thousands of Palestinian hostages in Israel for years ?
@@nassefmaher35201917? The year the Ottoman empire committed a real genocide. Then they lost the war, they fled their state, britain got in control, and that was british land, not Palestine's. A part of that land was given to jews, who were already there, and others came to build Israel. That is not the land of the ummah , we are in real world here
I have seen Jews protesting against Israel but i have yet to see a single Palestinian protesting against Hamas. The very fact that they celebrated oct 7th is enough for me to not care about them and their cause.
Mosab Yousef and Mudar Zahran.
Generally: They're afraid to talk. Israeli defense forces has a compilation of some Palestinians who speak out against Hamas. Most of them hate Hamas because Hamas steals aid from them. Gazan 🇵🇸 to IDF 🇮🇱: 'We must take down the heads of Hamas. Don't leave this place! People are stupid and do not understand anything. What are we to do with all of this? This is all because of Sinwar and Haniyeh. Haniyeh eats at restaurants in Turkey. And Sinwar eats hidden underground. They eat meat while we eat bullets.'
IRAN'S AHMADINEJAD: "Wipe Israel off the Map!" Universally condemned. WORLD'S/AMERICAN PROTESTERS: "From the River to the Sea!" PRAISED AND ALLOWED? AHMADINEJAD WAS WELCOMED AT COLUMBIA, no major protests, no disruptions or screaming, or Mic-Checks! THAT COMRADES, SHOULD SAY IT ALL ABOUT WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH!
When Professors agree with Hamas' attack, "Should have done more!", and "They deserved it!", then they make it a HOSTILE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT for all students who are Jews, or support Israel, because those PROFESSORS can, and do, give bad grades ruining future education and advancement. NOW, WHAT IF THE PROTESTS WERE AGAINST MUSLIMS, BLACKS, OR GAYS? WHAT ABOUT BEING A MAGA on any campus today?
WHERE ARE THE DEI CZARS? They only care for Blacks, Muslims, and Gays and forget their own job description to protect ALL!
So stupid
dude i am muslim and i can tell you these jihaadi students have no idea which ideology they are in support of, they are brainwashed...hammas is a terror org period.
It couldn't be because Palestinians have been backed into a corner at every opportunity by they occupiers, leaving them with one bad option as their only means of resistance. One that, to clarify, hasn't left power in Gaza since 2006 --- there hasn't been a free and open election in the last 18 years. It also couldn't be possible that most Palestinians didn't participate in the attack on October 7th. *_No._*
Why do the protesting students wear masks?
Dirty Westerns media show the students as bad people
Because pro Israeli groups like the canary mission publish their personal information on the internet. They also try to get students expelled from school or fired from their jobs
Preventing the spread of communicable diseases in large cowards?
@@cindy3933yeah that's clearly the reason😂 same reason why antifa and BLM wear masks aswell?
They wear masks so they can harass people and say sh** they wouldn't say if we could see their faces. They are cowards, always starting sh** but always get beaten up in the end. Unless it's 30 antifa / pro-palestinians vs 1 person.
McArtheism
It’s refreshing to see two college students on the opposite side having a mature and respectful conversation about the situation rather than the immature adult media pundits on cable news!
The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah,” while the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah.” Such are their baseless assertions, only parroting the words of earlier disbelievers. May Allah condemn them! How can they be deluded ˹from the truth˺? Quran 9:30
@@moholah3745to he'll with you, mohhamed and all your stupid imams
The protestor would laugh if she wasnt on tv. She knows she spews lies.
@@moholah3745Mohammed was a false prophet who wanted nothing but to conquer - whole Quran
@@moholah3745who is Ezra?? And who told you that? Your fairytale quran😂
Who takes a 1 yo baby (Kfir Bibas) to Gaza as hostage?
Maybe it was one of Nadia's brothers or uncles. Could be! We don't want to be bullies by calling for the Palestinians to release a baby who is just 15 months old now. Guess that is where we are.
Arabs
@@saibot7218Who shot dead hostages from his own citizens while waving a white flag?
The same people who Israel & its Jews gave $500 million to build a terrorist group...
IDF
the protesting students are fundamentally carrying a message of peace, funniest joke ever
@Nadia Ali - please consider taking down the “By any means necessary” sign in your encampment if you’d like to respect safety and human rights of those on campus
No no that's what they believe let them expose themselves.... they want another Jewish genocide, expulsion like before the first Aliyah.
Hamas should not be allowed to continue its rule in Gaza.
Zionism shouldn't be allowed period.
Israel was divided by Britain into two countries, one for Arabs, one for Jews. The Arabs got the bigger half but still left their homes to attack Israel with their 4 Arab neighbors.
Israel won the war and took more land for protection.
Arab countries kicked the Jews out or killed them, and also let the Palestinian refugees remain so Israel could look bad to the world.
Gaza was self-ruling, and used all its money to create underground tunnels and little infrastructure.
Gaza’s schools teach kids to hate Jews. Hamas was elected in a platform of destroying Israel.
MEANWHILE, Arabs living in Israel have always been treated like full citizens🤔
@ayubu3198 Palestinians support Hamas. For years theyve launched rockets into Israel. Israel has every right to defend itself.
@@caseyhelmer276Isreal has been occupying and building illegal settlements on Palestinian land for years, thats why Hamas still exists and gets any support at all.....they are viewed by many as terrorists who are fighting bigger and stronger terrorists
Neither should Netanyahu
Go to Gaza and see human rights there !
That's what the protest is about so the human rights violations in gaza are stopped?
people who slaughter kids and families dont have rights . and Palestinias arent a nation it s fake crap
@@truthseeker-nv6ny So shouldn't they take their protests to Gaza? What do they think is going to change by protesting here?
@@pattihart8751Biden admin is definitely losing because of this. Also really silly to argue that pro Palestinian side has no relevance here considering Israel would cease to exist without American help.
Yeah those human rights violations are being committed by Israel.
They think they are protesting righteously but none of them are calling for the hostages to be brought home!!!!
Hate-filled brats.
That's not true, I've heard them say that Israeli hostages should be freed, and they all think this is what should happen.
why arent you calling for the hostages including small children and toddlers that were kidnapped by idf ***before 7th October***, to be returned??
the babies that are being kept in CAGES by idf and the teenagers being tried in military courts after being kidnapped off the streets for playing like normal children? There are hundreds of videos circulating on twitter since before last year if you even care about them..
There's a HUGE "Resistance By Any Means" banner on the lawn. Sure, it's all peaceful.
And their "from the river to the sea" chants don't sound ethnic-cleansing-y at all!
according to international law, Resistance against occupying force is acceptable by all means. occupying force in this case, Israel. therefore Palestinians have a legal right to armed struggle by the moral law. ~Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions of 1949
@@mujtabaraisani Israel left Gaza in 2005. They got billions to make it into a paradise. Instead the leadership stole the money and dug tunnels to fuel hate. We can go down this rabbit hole all the way to the part where I say the Israelites are the indigenous peoples of the land, but that isn't going to help us get to a place of peace. I wish for better leadership in Israel and better leadership for the Palestinians. Violence is not the way.
@@mujtabaraisaniEvery Israeli unilaterally left Gaza in 2005… Until they were imported on the 7th. It could be occupied on Oct 6th if there were no Israelis there.
Did she just say the answer to bullying on campus is a call to the end for violence? Wait, that's not the right answer...lol.
I guess it's fair to say that peace protests and bullying on campus don't mix.
Why don’t you watching the video one more time.. and try again with your comment lol
Ask her how she feels about oct. 7.
probably Elated
i ask you about oct 7 of 1948---2024 how many paleztinians you butchered how much land you stole why dont you leave the only country palestinians have shile you have all eirope n usa
@@Shreteh1978. 1948 the year Muslims that live in that land choose to say no to a country , and choose to att me Jews that said yes to a country .
You want detail of 1949v
Also nothing Israel ever did close to 10/7
Every Palestinian know that
@@Bluemoon98-2 THE NAKBA????
@@Shreteh1978 why don the plstn leave to a mslm countries they have 50 plus if thats the case. Didnt the jw got kick out of europe, you hitlr lovers should know the history
Why dont they call for the release the HOSTAGES????
Because they support Oct 7 and supports the terro.
Haretz reported that IDF killed a bunch of Israeli hostages in an air strike on Oct7. I think there are no more hostages and Netanyahu knows this already but wants to "mow the lawn" as he calls it.
Exactly my question
Because it is not the current fad on friendsbook
Because there are no hostages left unkilled by IDF
They should watch and read Son of Hamas, maybe they learn some truth
Stoop supporting the death of children in Gaza first
@ayubu3198More than 70% of Palestinians in Gaza support Hamas, you were saying?
@@sasonzzyou were saying?
@ayubu3198 Im sorry but youre just lying. After Hamas was elected, further elections never happened due to disputes between Hamas and Fatah (PLO), not due to arrested council members (haven't found any data that indicates that, and even if they were, reelecting council members is not an option?). Elections aren't exactly in Hamas' agenda lol. I was refering to a poll that was conducted prior to the war where 70% showed support for Hamas. Moreover, a poll that was conducted after the war in the west bank indicates around the same percentage of support for Hamas and the belief that they should remain in power over Gaza. Keep believing your bs tho
@ayubu3198 By the way, according to data from 2019, life expectancy in Gaza stands at 61 years. The elections were actually in 2006 which is 18 years ago. Do the math
All the trouble making around the world has been initiated by universities non stop, they keep finding new things to act on
No it is not. It is because IDF is committed genocide in Gaza and Rafah. Besides, IDF soldiers itself have been admitting that they are targeting civilians.
It the universities causing trouble in US not gaza
The problem with these protests, or any protests for that matter, especially about complex issues is that we assume everybody has the same understanding on one side when in fact, we don't. If only people with an objective, deep understanding of the situation were protesting, the protests would be cordial, peacful, and merely a forum to debate. But when people who lack understanding and the ability to think critically, we get chaos, riots, and overall, unpeacful decorum.
I really commend Nadia and Parker for being authentic and empathetic- how wonderful this dialogue was! Thank you to them both for their civility!
right? if only we had this two mindset multiple by 1x7 billion..the world would have been..........
Except she isn’t a representation in any way of the vast majority of people at these pro Hamas rallies
that’s if you think that the opinions voiced at the end were honest rather than tuned for political correctness…
She is far from civil. She is fake
when you have one side who talk about racism he is suffering through, and the other who excuse it with something (doesnt really matter what that something is), i dont commend that person.
there is no excuse for a person to hide who he is so he wont get attacked by a mob !
this is pure anti-semitism,
Interested to know who will these protestors be voting for in 2024.
trump is gonna win, and i am a democrat supporter.
@@jokobodo4696 so where do you get this idea that trump will win?
do you want trump to win?
are YOU going to vote for trump?
are you a doomer / or just a pessimist?
or, what has convinced you trump will win?
I do not think, most of them would/could vote.
One guests is a first year student trying to get a degree. The other is a PhD student (I assume in some useless arts field) that would rather protest than finish their degree.
Lols😂
Why these protesters not bothering hamas for neglecting their constituent. It is not israels obligation address what te palestinians need at the moment.
Where are the hostages
A lot are in Isreali prisons
@@fuzzybunnyluvonly terrorist in prisons
Thousands held in Israel
in Israeli prisons 💯
Hamas terrorists kidnapped hostages and some bots blaming on Isreal.
Half knowledge is very dangerous 😂😂😂
The protests are mbedded with professional activists and some of the slogans such as getting rid of Jews by any means , etc are globally same and all highly orchestrated and organised.
That's why Columbia has now ordered that only people with Columbia University ID are allowed in.
Totally, theres been plenty of mossad plants in there to stir the pot. They know they are losing the public immage war.
Us wants to erase Iran from the Map since years . Iranians dont complain all the Time and Say that they feel for their safety. Its Israël who looks down AT their neighbors and looks for wars not the way arround because daddy us has financial and geopolitical interests in the region they destroyed Irak syria lybia and Lebanon IS under embargo. Enough IS enough
Nobody says that. Stop lying you weirdo
What slogan are you referring to?
Notice how the interviewer asks her to share her take on whats going on in campus and she immediately begins advocating for the human rights of people in Gaza
When the interviewer asks him to talk the question is “share how your experienced was being attacked at uni” and he talks about how people yelled hateful things at him.
Not that THAT is okay but this issue really isn’t about HIM.
Shouldn’t the question be the same for both of them ?
What about protesting to bring back the hostages?
International law? Why is that always a catch phrase? Can they cite the law that says a nation cannot fight terrorists after an attack, rescue hostages and prevent future attacks? Absurd.
And the crazy thing is she won’t criticize hms since as a terror group they are not bound by the same international law of war… this is all pretty twisted. Also, if the message is human rights, why does the signs say “by any means necessary”? Why are students being intimidated and driven out of campus because of their religion? How does it go along with “human rights”?
@ayubu3198 shams courts are insignificant. Notice the selective prosecution for their merit. The way Israel conducts this operation is far superior to any other modern war. This is objectively true by all standards.
Israel is a state party to numerous international human rights treaties and, as the occupying power, it has well defined obligations to respect, protect and fulfil the human rights of Palestinians.
However, as has been well documented for many years by the UN, Amnesty International and other NGOs, Israel’s settlement policy is one of the main driving forces behind the mass human rights violations resulting from the occupation. These include:
Violations of the right to life,
Violations of the rights to liberty, security of the person and equal treatment before the law,
Violations of the right to access an effective remedy for acts violating fundamental rights
Violations of the rights to freedom of expression and peaceful assembly
Violations of the rights to equality and non-discrimination
Violations of the right to adequate housing:
Violations of the right to freedom of movement
Violations of the rights of the child
Violations of the right to enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health
Violations of the right to water
Violations of the right to education
Violations of the right to earn a decent living through work:
One man's Terrorist is another man's Freedom Fighter... How do you resist when someone encroaches on your land to make a Zionist state? Where will you go? Why can the Zionists take Palestinian land and put some Jewish person who wants a holiday home in Israel but is American or European?
@@grenadebiter Those are just activist and political statements and are not factual. "People say it" doesn't make it right. The UN general assembly is just the opinions of countries, and if you're not aware - liberal democracies that actually value humanitarian rights, are a minority. Liberal democracies overwhelmingly stand by Israel, doesn't that make you question who's on the right side of the moral argument here?
If you wanna side with Putin, Xi Jing Ping, Kim Jong Un and Khemenei, be my guest. If you think they're right on this moral dillema, while Western democracies are on the wrong side, seek professional help. The facts are what they are. No genocide, no apartheid, and the occupation is a bad situation but not illegal and is justified in this complicated circumstances until a peace agreement is reached (which Palestinians continuously reject).
It’s amazing how Native Indians get treated bad in American for Centuries! And now everybody is sensitize
No ones "sensitised"... Natives got massive land, tax breaks & benefits etc. Enough money to forget about it. The rest of America doesn't want a reminder of what it did.
@@mr1rec83Enough money to forget? Visit New Mexico and see for yourself how the Native Americans live.
Why do everyone cry about Native Americans? There was never an America b4 America was forned.
Before the arrival of the Spaniards, Portuguese, Dutch, Germans, and English, there was a rich and thriving civilization of native people. Unfortunately, their peaceful existence was disrupted by the arrival of these foreign powers, resulting in the loss of countless lives and the enslavement of many African people. It is a tragic history that we should remember with compassion and sympathy.
@@mr1rec83and a bunch of broken treaties squatters thieves ge no ci dal man ia cs I mean colonialists
Why she don’t going to Gasa to help them?
Wow violent as always.
Let's assume she wants to go for the sake of Argument. Now how would she do it.
*It's like telling anyone protesting holocaust to go to auswtize*
because it’s being bombed? how can she help if she is dead
Because it’s not safe…?
Ok…but this young man gave very clear examples of actual hate speech said to his face. He wasn’t conflating nor was he confused. He was clear. She dismissed his experience, and that is NOT ok.
She is probably responsible for something similar to it, ofcourse she will dismiss it.
That’s because everyone feels terrorized by zionazis at the moment! and Jews claim that 99% of jews are zionists. That means supporters of genocide!
Yes, God help Israel
Thats because his experience is a grain of salt compared to the millions of people who are actually being killed and truly experiencing something horrific. People who are truly suffering. No ones saying the hate is okay but be fr,
this really isn’t about him lol
@@Tom-le3yy why would you assume that when she is literally advocating for human rights and peaceful protesting, even directly telling him that she does NOT agree with the way certain people are misrepresenting their message: A CALL TO END THE VIOLENCE.
Did you even finish watching the video… lol
It’s unacceptable what’s happening at Columbia university. Jewish students and all students from different religious backgrounds, nations need to feel safe on campus.
And what about the Muslim students? The fact that a few rich Jewish kids don't feel safe over protests directed at Istrael is just BS. Many of the protesters are Jewish themselves.
Wow!! What a wholesome and neutral approach 😂😂
Has even one of them been harmed by violence?...or just "feels"?
Exactly!!
@@AGirlHasNoName829yeah, if you watch sky news they show you everything happening, not just what NBC news wants you to see.
Nadia is an example that those who are in ivy league schools are not really that bright.
That's an understatement
Because she has a different opinion than you do? That's incredibly stupid I can't help but laugh
@@hollyteale3257 It's laughable that people think I'm judging the lady's opinions. No. I'm appalled by the lack of knowledge.
I’m glad you understand how we feel about your comment 🤣🤣
@@irenekapya6839 you said she has a lack of knowledge, but haven’t corrected her, or specified where she could be mistaken or mislead. sounds like a skill issue.
You need to check the source of funds pouring in to establishments and verify the same.
WHY SHE IS NOT CALLING FOR END OF HAMAS TERROR REGIME???
Why would she why not ask the boy the same calling for Israel to stop killing kids everyday it both evil but this is America' and we should have free speech with out saying it hate speech ever time some call like they c it
Hamas is Palestinian.
Because the terror they inflict dwarfs in comparison to the thousands of children murdered in cold blood by Israel.
Good question. I don't hear anyone addressing the deeper issues -- just calling for Israel to stop killing people in a war. I would like to see more nuance and a real conversation on the subject.
@@reynaldodizon6563
It's called *Hamastinian* ...😌
Did Hamas follow international law
No, but they are a result of an illegal occupation which is a violation of international law...2 wrongs dont make a right
Israel neither. Running an apartheid and land grabbing is against international law . Hypocrite!
@@rayzor5289facts
The occupied have a right to resist, and even violently under International law....
Terrorist by definition don't follow the law, Israel on the other hand ....
do the hostages get human rights?
Stop dehumanizing other people for 75 years how about that
@@darvinmilevic7418 me ?😲
What hostages? They are all nearly dead.
@@darvinmilevic7418dehumanizing who? Have you not read palestinian doctrine? You havent huh?
@@user-pj2rs5py5w why israeli come to this land not to usa
It is fine to scream for peace, for the war to end, for the hostages to be freed. It is not fine to scream for continued war which is all the media has shown so it must be all that is occurring.
This guy, why is it always the case that just one guy or girl seems to have been attacked like 100 times a day particularly yet they never provide us with any evidence and we never see these events actually occurring? These stories seem reality dissonant to me.
No protest against terrorists hamas?
Why would they protest that? Is their country (The US) spending $100 Billion dollars to support Hamas?
Anyone can make a protest against Hamas. Including you. Why don't you start.
OHHHH, NOOOO,
THEY ARE EXHAUSTING THE DEMONIC MONSTERS, hamas !!!!!
HATING ON ISRAEL🇮🇱💙🙏 WHO WAS THE VICTIM OCT 7TH, AND NOW, SOME EVEN CHANTING:
"DEATH TO AMERICA" !!!
IS THAT OK ?!?!?
billions of taxpayer dollars every year don't go to hamas, genius
Resistance, try again.
I remember sitting in a class about the Soviet Central Asian republics about 33 years ago. We got off topic and started talking about Israel and Palestine. The professor asked me what would I do to solve the conflict. I said if I had that answer I'd be teaching the class while sitting next to my Nobel Peace Prize. Right now, all I can see happening is a cease fire from both Israel and Hamas, release any hostages who are still alive, and go back to the negotiation table. Israel doesn't want a one state solution with Palestinians, the Palestinians don't want to share the territory with the Jews in a two state solution, and one of Hamas' key objectives in the destruction of Israel. It's also partially devolved into a proxy way between the US and Iran through military aid. The best solution now might be a truth and reconciliation process like South Africa did with UN Peacekeepers coming in like in Rwanda and former Yugoslavia. But they have to be willing to talk to each first. It's a mess.
Unfortunately its only going to end when one side is gone. Even if there were peace in a one state, israel would never allow for a palestinian majority in the knesset or a palestinian prime minister.
jd, we tried peacekeepers. They were in Lebanon, blown up by terrorists and didn't protect Israel. Israel cannot afford to have people who will run away when the going gets tough.
Hamas won't release the hostages, they could have the last ceasefire when they promised to release all the females, kids, and babies, but they didn't.
They don't believe in ceasefire, they believe in Hudna, which means a break before attacking again.
They have promised to do Oct.7th over and over.
@@BobSacamano666That’s what I think the endgame is going to be, unfortunately. I watch a great channel called “Ask Israeli, ask a Palestinian “. Overwhelming the Israelis say a two state solution will work, while the Palestinians say nope, it’s our land-the Jews have to go. So they have work together to share the land. I agree that the powers that be right now would never acquiesce to a Palestinian majority in the Knesset or a Palestinian PM. I think that Netanyahu will burn Israel to the ground rather than give it up.
@@BobSacamano666 The students demonstrators need to get on a plane take "their energy of concern" to Palestine to help the people there. The demonstrations will change NOTHING. Both sides on this issue demonstrate a mid-East "desert-brain" mentality. This "dispute" has gone on since the days of Abraham and his two sons. The hubris of the student protestors has disrupted campus life (and closed down public bridges). It needs to be stopped...Permanent expulsion from Columbia (and other universities that protesters are infiltrating) is the way to end this silly mess. Similar to the demonstration ruckus of the late 1960s were as futile as is this current endeavor.
@@jdulmaine This fight will go on until the end of time.
Has she seen the film by Hamas about October 7th, I would force her to see it so that she knows for whom she roots
Nice to see two sides just talking to each other. Sad that this is becoming less of a norm with people their age
My shock is that it's a Leftist arguing with a Progressive.
Bad leadership. The professors are leading the charge on the intellectual depravity and lack of dialogue. That's what you get when you hire activists instead of accomplished academics for these important positions. God forbid you don't have 80% SJWs on your staff... You'll be labeled a white supremacist institution.
More of these types of brief interviews please 🙏🏻
Firsty, Study the 181 Resolution UN, 1947.
Why you don't protest for the released of your fellow Americans
Nadia what do u say about hamas atrocities on Israelis on 7 October
Suddenly - they r- remembering Human Rights? What happened in those days - Oct 7 ?We still shudder , remembering those Videos and the aftermath? 😢
But you don’t shudder about what’s happening in Gaza? Of babies with missing limbs?
It is called Resistance... Israel has been "mowing the lawn"... for a long time.. Nobody, seems to mention that? Apparently, completely okay for Palestinians to live under seige... no food , water or electric or internet - Only when the Israelis decide - that is perfectly okay. Mow the lawn when you want. When you deny a human basic rights ?? Then, when he no longer behaves like a human....??
But you have been forgetting about human rights since 1948, and many legal scholars contend that because Is xXxX has been allowed to get away with violations they longer protect any of us.
What about the videos of hunger and dying children in Gaza? All ppl deserve to be safe! Palestinians are also ppl! For gods sake how can you cry about one ppl and not about the other? If you are not careful media will make you hate the victims not the oppressed!
October 7? This started in 1948. Don't miss your history classes next. My mistake, they don't tell you that.
what about ucrain how come no one comes up and protest
Ukraine is a lost cause...bidens business partners are dead.
Because you can’t blame Jews for this.
They always were supported by the US. Not much to protest. They get refuge in the US and Europe. They even get military training.
20 days in Mariupol even got a Oscar.
@ayubu3198 it is against Jews, because the protestor attack any bypassing person who is visibly Jewish with verbal (and not only verbal) violence. They don’t ask this person first if he supports Israel or not. They call him names and say go back to Poland. This is pure evil antisemitism pretending to be disgusted under anti Israel.
@ayubu3198why didn’t they protest genocide of 10/7?? Or genocide in Syria? Why no calls to boycott China for what happens with Uyghurs?
Because you can’t Jews for this, so no one cares.
Hypocrisy!
The Palestinians have never, EVER opted for peace and human rights. Please.
This statement itself is an extention of the racism and biggotry the palestinians have faced mainly of the back of a multi-decade hate campaign, regardless you should at least allow kids and women to live to be able to opt for anything..
Because Isreal by massacring hundreds of thousands of people through 75 years of occupation and apartheid and colonization is opting for peace??
Wow has she ever got it wrong
they always did, but israel didnt
Except that you conveniently forget 75 years of occupation and Netanyahu boasting about supporting Hamas to thwart the implementation of a two-State solution.
so ...why is Nadia making problems in another country instead in Israel?
If she protested in Israel she would immediately be prosecuted.
Not a word about the 130 hostages!
Israel rejected their release twice. They’re also only danger from their own l0F air strikes.
again you keep talking about hostages. It just goes to show that as far as you are concerned the Jewish hostages are the only human beings worth talking about and the Palestinians are just some type or animal and you keep talking about anti-semitism, as if the Jews are the most important people in the world and the killing of Palestianinan women and children are somehow justified. That is my you are seeing the rise in anti-semtism, as wrong as it is
Yupp, and not a word about the 12000 children who have been murdered in gaza either. Why do you think that is?:)
@@nelsonjanusson7278It's sadly because their not white. :(
Exactly! I haven't heard one word from these protestors about the hostages being held in Gaza. But, they probably don't care for the hostages because those are Jews and considered as the enemy in their minds.
What about the human rights of the hostages? Why does nobody mention the October 7th massacre and the hostages?
So you want to save the hostages and use 2000 pound BOMBS and heavy Artillery to do so. Yeah only fooled people like you
@ayubu3198you are full of lies and know nothing about this subject
Maybe because they are overshadowed by what followed. Food for thought.
@ayubu3198well said 👏👏
@@Mrautomatomwhat would is you living in.
The banner BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY says it all .Doesnt seem peace loving .Not one suggestion to free hostages in order to save lives.
ridiculous how ppl sit by idly while others are bullied and ridiculed ....fight for good ! " You cant just "loose track of a messege"
Nadia then why don’t you and peaceful group stop people who are not acting in line with your peaceful views?
Stop them how? Why don't you stop the idf from killing civilians
thats just a few and how can she control anybody? we should not distract from the atrocities in gaza and westbank.
Why doesn’t the other guy stop all those crazed ISR apologists? …you see how that works?
This is such a dumb argument.
These things happen in War. Just like the 6,000 dead Palistinian Children. Get over yourself.
Excellent words between the students. Thank you for giving them a safe space to dialogue. 🙏🏽
How about October 7???
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I think it’s weird that they have a freshmen and a ph’d student in panel…seems a little lopsided.
this young man has a good heart. honest enough to admit islamaphobia and bad actors on his side of the issue are indeed present, which is rarely discussed in mainstream media.
Yep! this is a really decent kid, and most Jewish people are brilliant people!
"Islamaphobe"? Is the slang for that "May"? (M uslim)
Do he condemn the current geno…cide going on in 🍉
It’s all about the geno..cide going on , Muslim , jaw & Christian lived together in peace as one for hundreds of years in Palestine Dont let them change the subject , we all should support stoping the mass killing and free 🍉
@@Sam23606 i agree. Jews were never prevented from returning to their "ancestral homeland". they lived side by side with arab muslims and christians for many years in peace. it wasn't until zionism was invented that tensions rose.
i have a very simple question to those pro palestine protestors. The conflict in Syria has made 350000 death, 8.5 million external displaced and another 5 million internal displaced. This is huge, compared to the conflict in Gaza which made, according to Hamas, 30000 death, and 1.5 million internal displaced. WHERE WERE YOU WHEN IT HAPPENED ?
Where, where! It’s because it’s happened in Jewish state????
The answer to this I saw in a meme on Facebook: No Jews, No News. In other words, people don't care about Muslim vs Muslim genocide. Only in the Middle East where there are Jewish people. (Antisemitism!)
The answer is simple ,because the conflict in Syria is a civil war ,unlike the ongoing occupation and apartheid that is going on since 1948 inflicted by Israel and its allies
Does the US support Bashar al Assad? Does the US support Natenyahu? If you figure these two questions out you may finally learn why your question holds no water.
@@TheLastInferno No ! Russia did support Bachar. So it’s all about being anti-American . The fact that Putin is doing much worse in terms of massacres does not bother those students.
Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Brotherhood and similar groups don't allow protests against their religious fundamentalism. Palestinians started these groups.
more hasbara at 11!
@@thegtafanboy, more clowns like you - is it better ?
@@thegtafanboy Right after the islamo- fascist denial and terrorist sympathizing.
Hezbollah was started by palestinians?
@@thegtafanboy After the islamo-fascist report. lol
What about the hostages 😢
I have a feeling the people with the least hate in their hearts will come out on top.
Shout out to Parker, seems very level headed. If only the people in charge could have this kind of conversation
Yep Parker is very decent!
But Hamas does not follow either the law or accept peace. They are using these students for their purposes.
I don't know how to tell you this, but Israel is not following the law either, and hasn't been for a very long time. They've been running an illegal occupation for decades.
So true. Hamas is using the students as human shields while they enjoy the spoils of humanitarian food aid in their university underground tunnel compounds
IRAN'S AHMADINEJAD: "Wipe Israel off the Map!" Universally condemned. WORLD'S/AMERICAN PROTESTERS: "From the River to the Sea!" PRAISED AND ALLOWED? AHMADINEJAD WAS WELCOMED AT COLUMBIA, no major protests, no disruptions or screaming, or Mic-Checks! THAT COMRADES, SHOULD SAY IT ALL ABOUT WHO WE ARE DEALING WITH!
When Professors agree with Hamas' attack, "Should have done more!", and "They deserved it!", then they make it a HOSTILE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT for all students who are Jews, or support Israel, because those PROFESSORS can, and do, give bad grades ruining future education and advancement. NOW, WHAT IF THE PROTESTS WERE AGAINST MUSLIMS, BLACKS, OR GAYS? WHAT ABOUT BEING A MAGA on any campus today?
WHERE ARE THE DEI CZARS? They only care for Blacks, Muslims, and Gays and forget their own job description to protect ALL!
Read the history
thats what happens when you force Palestinians to pay for what white conservatives did to jews in Europe. Israelis are now the oppressor's with Palestinians in concentration camps
this discussion did not get to the heart of the matter AT ALL
For all those calls that that girl listed in the beginning I didn't hear her call for the surrender of Hamas and the release of the remaining hostages.
I guess it’s really easy to get in to Colombia this days
And you still cant get in
Yea but difficult to pay
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
You're right, the Genocide has to end NOW!
@@sami4114there’s no evidence of genocide.
KId, go to school!@@JMAN97712
I wonder if she believes what she just said
what about all the hostages by Hamas
Nice to know that a few aren't complete hypocrites.
I mean, it's beyond hypocrisy, of him felling not safe, when the protest is about children getting murdered by American tax dollars
It's like a German not felling safe using a German flag on his shirt in USA in 1940s. There was no pride wielding a German flag while Jews were getting killed, the same as using the David flag today, because innocents are getting killed in name of religion... Once again....
Why aren’t the proPalestines correcting those doing the harassment and hate speech then? If you are allowing this behaviour then you are an enabler
How should they correct them? Attack them? Would you use the same argument for June 6th incident?
@@rayzor5289 attack. Tell them to get lost. Denounce in real time. Report them to the cops.
@@catherinedarby4512 I see, I don't think that's unreasonable. How about June 6th? I dont think all the people there were looting or attaching police, most were not. But how many of the thousands of people there stopped the few idiots? Any big group is going to have a handfull of hatefull morons...does not mean eveeyone protesting agrres with them.
@@rayzor5289 June 6th? you mean October 7th
@@rayzor5289 that was a riot. Not a supposed peaceful protest organized by so called student organizations
I honestly think what makes the lines of these protests so skewed is that there is no true leaders to these protests. For example, for the civil rights movement there was Martin Luther King Jr. who was one of the people who guided the civil rights movement. People sadly get blinded by anger and if they don’t have someone to check them they get carried away.
Just ask the P woman how peaceful was the attack on the people at the Music Festival ?
Nothing about Egypt Eh? Building bigger walls and all
How does that involve whats happening at this school?
@@rayzor5289egypt borders the Gaza Strip and blockades the Palestinians.
as i know israel the one who flattering the gaza and not egypt
Egypt doesn't even want palestines...there!building walls!
@@Tamayo.Sama2023 Also the one attacked by gaza troll.
feels completely annoying how these pro Pal. indirectly answer. the way she repeat "the Palestinian can understand that..." show how uneducated she is about what the Palestinian and Hamas (sorry, there is now differences between the two after Oct. 7th) actions against innocences, the way Palestinians with help from UNWRA promote hate education. she speak so nicely about human rights but take it from other people who don't speak like her. if any other foreign student would speak or act aggressive, the state would his Visa. but that time its all very sick
The first stage is demoralization, which can take 15 to 20 years to achieve. That’s the minimum number of years to re-educate a generation of young people who grow up exposed to the ideology of the country. This is the power of ideology at work, and that generation will eventually replace previous ones over time, first in the workforce, then by having their own families.
Once demoralization is completed, the second stage of ideological brainwashing is destabilization, which occurs in a 2 to 5 year period. According to Bezmenov, what matters during this time is targeting a nation’s essential structural elements - economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. The subverter - in this case, the Soviet Union - looks to destabilize each of these areas in the United States by considerably weakening them. This is what most people think of when they think of an enemy state doing something against their own nation. Pardon me as I cite a really nerdy example that could potentially be a destabilization attempt.
The third stage - crisis - takes up to 6 weeks to manifest, which then gives way to the final stage. There have been plenty over recent years, like in Ukraine and Israel. However, those crises are outright acts of war, so they’re a lot more overt. Meanwhile, there have been other examples like the Arab Spring, as well as various revolutions during the 2000s like the Orange Revolution in Ukraine and the Rose Revolution in Georgia, among many others throughout the world.
The final stage is normalization, which is the ultimate goal of ideological subversion - changing the hearts and minds of the people from the outside. The preferred outcome for the subverter is that no one truly notices that there was any subversion at play. In the case of the Soviet Union, their goal is to make the people of the west question the capitalistic system and their powers that be, enough to spark revolutionary action.
hey, kefiya girl, who started this on october 7?
YOU SHOULD HAVE ASKED HER IF SHE CONDEMNS HAMAS, SO YOU WILL KNOW IF SHE IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND TRUE TO HER WORD.
😂😂😂
I fully agree with you, she should have been asked that question. If she can't condemn Hamas that will be the (giveaway) that she is not honest. I thought she showed fake sympathy in this video and tried to justify the threatening behaviour of the pro-Hamas mob. In my opinion, she is a liar and does not care that the Jews were threatened and harassed at colleges. If she cared, she would do something to help them, but I have a feeling she won't.
@@EEbluesea1288What should she do to help them?
Then he should also be asked if he supports the Genocide and Apartheid of Israel
@@rayzor5289 Well since she claims to be so "loving" if she sees a mob of protesters surrounding Jewish students and blockading them so they can't walk away, she should walk over and tell them to stop. That would be a good start. If she denies the harassment against Jews she exposes herself as a liar, and if she sees the harassment and does nothing to stop it then she is NOT loving and she only proves my point.
it is not “pro-Palestinian” it is pro Hamas. Easily could have had ceasefire if hostages released and rockets into Israel stopped. Oct 7 was during a supposed ceasefire.
No, its pro-Palestinian. You are just attempting to shame people from having sympathy for Palestinians. Is pro-Israel the same as pro-genocide?
There are some extremist in these protests which is wrong. The students have to try to weed out agitators.
The problem seems to be outside the campus.
These two students need to be the face of reconciliation.
He needs to talk about October 7th and the hostages!
Nadia is right that the main message has been blurred. Most protesters probably want a ceasefire and aid to Gaza, but sadly I see alot of flags there calling for Revolution against Israel, which means more violence. Also the "From the river to the sea" message is a very provocative and divisive slogan, not at all peaceful.
"From The River To The Sea" means that Palestinians should be free from the river to the sea. Which is how it should be?
Let's be real, most of these students support Hamas. Why do they not call for the release of the hostages as well as aid to Gaza. Shows where their priority lies, and it's not with protecting Jewish people from violence and hatred.
I respect that you understand "From the river to the sea" the way you do. Still, every person who says that phrase assigns their own different meanings, and I respect that too. Many who use it wish the best for all people. There is a very wide diversity of meanings that people assign to it. The situation is complex.
@@The-Creative-Hub Historically it has meant the removal of Israel. It might have a different meaning for those students but to Israelis it is a call for their extinction. Israeli extremists have also used the same slogan for the removal of Palestine
@@lovesings2us Fair enough, but there should be a less ambigious slogan. It is easy to misinterpret, especially given its use by Hamas and others
Netanyahu does not want a ceasefire,
Wow. A PHD student. The bar is not high.
Many people could have a PHD and excel in their field, yet be a bit confused when they step outside it. Perhaps she is doing a PHD in physics, this wouldn’t make her very knowledgeable about geopolitics..
What does Malachi 3:3 mean?
ESV He will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, and they will bring offerings in righteousness.
Good interviewer. And 2 well spoken young people.
I really appreciate these two young people speaking honestly about their experiences, and for the young man naming Islamophobia along side Anti-Jewish sentiment.
" Islamophobia " is that a real phobia recognized by the psychiatric community or a made up word by snowflakes ?
The same people protesting are the same people who would elect Hamas to power - hence the issue
Wrong that’s your misinterpretation
absolutely not the case
hmm so are going to the past? Why not go little bit more 1980s when Israel created Hamas? HENCE THE ISSUE :)
@@mujtabaraisani that is a lie hence the issue
@@MrBeast-1 oh yea? Then why Netanyahu is okay with Hamas existence so he can thwart two-state solutions? Don't skip history classes again. My mistake, they don't teach u anti-zionism
Nadia speak of human right, and that includes not the victims of the Hamas attack of 7.oct. Thirty nationalities was either killed or taken hostages who just were in Israel at that time and has, according to Naida, no human rights.
How is calling for Intifada and chanting "From the river to the sea..." a peaceful protest and message!
Intifada means revolution…wht is the problem
@@mortadamansour8295 intifada means blowing buses and restorants inside israel killing all the peaple inside.. you really dont know what is intifada cause you didnt see people in line for a night club and terrorist blow himself on them.
@@mortadamansour8295yeah and ji*ad means a struggle/fight which usually ends with the ‘fighter’ KIA cus he blew himself up. So whats yours bud. 😂
@@dingbat999 Islamophobe
@@mortadamansour8295 So a violent revolution is not something people (and Jews in particular) should feel threatened by!
Someone is funding strongly for the protests.