Hamas is owned by Israel Gov with proven stated by ex israel politician. The conclusion is Israel Is criminal State that created both Idf Terrosrist and Hamas to wipe out Palestinians.
So, you are just choosing to not believe the facts these students are expressing within their arguments? And better simply labeling it as IGNORANCE because their points do not favor your biases. You’re buddy Ben was actually spreading false information and even going as far as labeling students as antisemitic and saying they favor genocide because they follow factual history and not history based on a floating man in the skys “heavens”. Great point!
But Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. You said it, there are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mw it’s Oxford you plebe. These students are supposedly the top candidates and will likely be in high offices later in their life. If they can’t handle a debate, then they need to realize that being humble and educating themselves further is the best option. Your argument is beyond stupid. Are you telling me that we’re not supposed to let these supposed highly educated students debate higher level opponents in order to not only educate them but help them grapple with what they will experience in the real world? You’re a joke if you honestly think this is a problem.
@@GG-sn1mw it’s Oxford you plebe. These students are supposedly the top candidates and will likely be in high offices later in their life. If they can’t handle a debate, then they need to realize that being humble and educating themselves further is the best option. Your argument is beyond stupid. Are you telling me that we’re not supposed to let these supposed highly educated students debate higher level opponents in order to not only educate them but help them grapple with what they will experience in the real world? You’re a joke if you honestly think this is a problem.
@@GG-sn1mw then watch more videos of him doing the exact same thing to popular figures that are his age and older.. the real problem that these students are self entitled, over confidant, rude and are very uneducated even on basic history when they are students of a supposed to be top university, debating is not only being right but having proper mannerism
When that woman said "Britain wasn't bombing Germans..." I did a massive face slap and realised then that UK history lessons are clearly not up to standard.
Haha you just realised that? Don't you know that they don't teach their real colonial history, the atrocities, famines, loot, poverty, cultural degradation, millions dieing and what not. They've build everything up to standard through their colonial loot but are afraid to give standard and accurate history knowledge to their children.
From the looks of her, a quick look into her own family history would've given an insight into British Empire attitude towards civilians within colonial possessions
“It’s my displeasure.” “Shut up.” How very elevated of this young man. Really showing his qualities, and the unfortunate and sad state of this institution.
I am an anti-fascist, and I do not condone any culture which genitally mutilates its own babies, and conducts genocide in order to realise a theological fairy tale.@@southtexasobserver3306
You are so right @robertjackson301. What she should have said was- "If we are going to draw parallels of the World War to the war against Palestine, then just on the "victim vs. aggressor narrative", the allied position would be similar to Palestine and Germans would be the aggressors/occupiers/ethnic cleansers- ergo Israel". Would love to see Bassem Yousuf debate with Ben on the same platform. Wouldn't you agree?
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mwben didn't take on students the idea was that students will come up and ask questions they wanted to take ln ben they just messed around and found out Ben did debate more experienced people about the Israel abd hamas complex you can search it its there Okay now i know for certain you didn't watch the video ben talked about everything hamas israel not just that arabs didn't want a two state country plus no there are mo evidence what so ever this just straight up bs oh and ive seen someone who debunked you and commented on your comment but you just ignored it and kept saying the same bs you are saying which just shows that you can't except the truth you are denying it
@@GG-sn1mw So peace between arab states and Israel is not in the interest of mankind? What about the proposed 2 state solutions would have been unjust to the arabs? Israel was willing to compromise a larger and more fertile territory in the pursuit of peace.
@@GG-sn1mw I am 5 years younger than these students. I am in high school, and I have better self-control and better manners than these students. I always start talking to people with a Hi, how are you? and a handshake. Such rudeness shown by these students baffle me. No excuse for them to act like idiots, regardless of their views. I agree with Ben, and I want the awful war to end. Hamas invaded Israel when they launched the missiles. I do not care about the reason to fight within both sides. I am simply anti-terrorist, and I do not care about the motives for their existence. Israel was attacked by terrorists and modern warfare causes the deaths of many civillians. If Trump wins, he will end it as a status quo ante bellum.
It was mostly Nazis not all Germans though also operation paperclip they didn’t even kill Nazis meanwhile Nazis killed 27 million people in Russia including soldiers and civilians; you can go after terrorists but how is bombing babies helpful? Try another argument than just human shields
It's no longer a university of intellectuals, they started promoting affirmative action and diversity, feminism and identity politics... Now its just a bunch of children that see themselves as victims. A decade or so ago, you'd never imagine that in Harvard or oxford, students would be teasing other students in a formal discussion such as this one, saying no when someone asks if the crowd can hear them, and applauding someone for an insult they threw at their opponent. If these are the future leaders of our nation, we're doomed.
Oxford needs to lift their standards. With one or two exceptions, including the Czech national, this was embarrassing for an institution that’s supposedly top tier. The rudeness, disrespect and lack of knowledge is embarrassing.
Yes, Ben Shapiro is embarrassing. If you want a higher quality debate, shoot higher than Ben Shapiro. He dominates with aggressive speech, raising one’s voice, name calling, accusing, interrupting, and talking as fast as a chipmunk to get more words in. These are his strategies. He has a record of being insanely disrespectful to women. If you invite Ben, you’re going to have a “Ben-quality” debate. The bar became low when he walked in the door.
@@huntercarpenter3861There's absolutely nothing that Ben was lying about. That upset literally can only come to Muslims when they realize they're evil & ☪️ancer.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
What peace are you talking about when Israel is fucking it all up. There is no right for Jews to make their state in someone else's land. If you have to choose between the peace and righteousness I'll go for righteousness: Finkelstein 😘
An Oxford student saying britain didn't cause civilian casualties during the war was as worrying as it gets. At least the rest of the room seemed to understand how stupid that statement was but it worries me that these people will say such things with insane overconfidence.
What happens when you take in people based on racial % rather than intellectuality. Bet there were hundreds of girls smarter than her who could’ve took her place at Oxford but because she represents a religious sect or people of a specific ethnicity, she probably got in.
Yep. I live on the other side of the world but world history were taught in our secondary school. I literally shook my head. A little knowledge is really dangerous. Echo chamber is strong with that one.
The girl when she said British doesn’t incur civilian casualties during war, the whole crowd was shocked by her statement, and I also jaw dropped. How ignorant a kid can be? Kids can be ignorant but the fact that she is studying in Oxford, that… makes you wonder Oxford is overrated
History of PALESTINIAN STATE: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE
some was kept there as a reminder that it is not a good idea to piss off stronger countries. I think Gaza needs the same to make them understand@@kel8026
Engaging in debate fairly relies more on overall ability to play fair than it relies on intelligence. It’s about refraining from the dirty hits and going for the fair ones, and letting your opponent do the same knowing it might hurt. Like being able to play soccer without getting upset when you’re outplayed or smacked in the face with the ball.
No matter if you like Ben or not, the fact that he made this video to be the 6th highest viewed on the Oxford Union channel among those videos 9-10 years ago, and was able to debate fluently for an hour, is really amazing.
Nope. His debating skills are juvenile at best -- he doesn't back up any claim with any evidence, merely deflecting into slanted questions. There's a reason why his initials are B.S.
The quality of students at educational institutions has gone sharply downhill over the last few decades. Additionally, the accessibility of information online has gone way up. So it's a combination of students getting more ignorant and (some) people online getting less ignorant.
Because this is where the majority get their information , and if those arguments fit their ideology, which it almost always does because that’s how the algorithms work, they believe it without an open mind
My mom studied at the university of london and had met people from oxford and told me that oxford has always been a respected and prestigious university. It's unbelievable to me how it has devolved into its current state
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
I think it speaks to your character, but I don't think it invalidates any points you make. I do think it has no place in a formal debate tho, not that these debates where incredibly formal.
@@borthYT Part of being an effective communicator is not alienating others, no? My father was a psychiatrist and always said there is a way to disagree without being disagreeable
@@borthYT You are correct, someone stating your argument is null in void because you used a logical fallacy such as an ad hominem attack is in itself also a logical fallacy. I agree that it has no place in a formal debate, but if it does show up it certainly speaks to your character.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mw Being 20 years old or 40 years old... It makes little difference, they're adults, at the finest educational establishment in Europe. Being polite and informed, transcends age - you appear to be making excuses for these bigoted, ignorant snobs.
Yes the third person and the boy in the Nikes were "embarrassing" but the first girl who spoke and the man in the suit and tie weren't, if you think they were "embarrassing" then I'd like to see you debate against Ben. What does unembarrassing behaviour look like to you?
You can blame the institution for hiring the Professors who have been filling that crap into the students heads. Now we are at a point where these students are defending their indoctrination with yelling and screaming and not being able to process the truth.😢
@ThePowerMoves Their inability to have a mature respectful debate without resorting to “shut your mouth i’m speaking”. Thats the commentary of a child, not an aspiring mature student at a (supposedly) elite university.
Oxford alumni here-- this was a bad showing from the Union. The lack of basic respect shown to Ben and the utter hostility of both the Union officers and the crowd makes them look extremely childish. Instead of having the nuanced discussion a topic like this deserves, we got this display of emotional fragility, grandstanding, and failed "gotcha" moments from a few students who clearly think too highly of themselves. What a shame.
It was more than obvious, however, that in this time of "emotional fragility" and myriad deaths in Gaza everyday, that the majority of the community did not want to hear what Ben Shapiro had to say. He's a known propagandist, just from his lack of address of how Israel funded Hamas, and his reliance on sarcasm and patronising behaviour to get him to seem assertive. His methods are obvious. When you know him as the man who wrote both Anti-Arab and Anti-Palestine tweets years back, and the man who stormed out of a BBC interview, not debate, it does not shine the best light on him. In times like this, you will see the worst of people, and you cannot blame them; I have no respect for a liar and a man who argues with young adults for a living. If he had some self-respect, he would allow his own ideas to be challenged by people on a similar level to him in terms of knowledge.
Ben lowered the tone from the get go by saying that one of the students had a "bullshit argument". His way of debating is aggressively arrogant & his constant attempt to intimidate and undermine the opposing argument says a lot about his character. Considering that he has a global platform & behaves in such a despicable way says a lot about "the bullshit" being consumed by those who refuse to educate themselves.
@@ariona7756 He was setting up the following questioners to ask questions of merit, well documented/researched, etc. and not just hyper emotional/propaganda based....
Why do younger people not understand why they are even able to stand up and give an opinion? Millions of men and woman gave their lives up for us to be able to do this.
@chuckfrezzel348. USMC 64---68. Hello from Palermo Sicily. Well, Amen to you Brother. And I served and fought along side many of those MEN who gave their lives. And this Muslim Lady is a distant result of LBJ'S changing of the Immigration Policy. When he opened the door to the Third World. And now the USA is the Third World.
I am an Oxford Alumn. I do not agree most ideas Ben spouses. However, I do acknowledge the courage, cleverness, determination, and strength that he shows by upholding his beliefs and convictions in front of a belligerent and unfriendly audience. That his highly commendable. Very few people in the world do that today.
It's ALWAYS been about kicking BIG FAMOUS dogs, and then getting away with it. After all, nobody can hit you or say anything. It's ALL about sounding virtuous, yet acting up angrily, or maybe even violently if they can get away with it in mass quantity. In grammar school it was all about "I'm going to be 'stupid on purpose' because it's easier. I'm not even going to do any homework, I'll say it was too hard for me and stuff. They just try harder to help you if you do really rotten anyways, so why not be stupid on purpose because it's so much easier"? These "shut up" types would say things like that at lunch or recess, and it'd work well and good for them because the teachers never caught on, just like it is now probably... parents and teachers are the VERY LAST to know or hear anything. Now they get to say "Shut up!" to very famous adults who come out to visit, and without any repercussion at all, even, not even a warning to be civil or stop speaking and go sit back down. What are they teaching students these days, how to seek easy attention with a mouth and tongue?
Exactly, no matter who's right, wrong, good or evil... In war civilians WILL ALWAYS die. Horrendous but the truth and no politicians should lie about it.
"If you whip out your phone in a debate, you’ve already lost. And let me tell you why: if you don’t have your facts memorized but the other person does, it’s pretty clear who actually knows their stuff!"
Ask him why he wanted no money and help to Ukraine but now supports money and resources to Israel . He’s a Zionist hypocrite. Maybe the stupid ones believes the bs . The new hitlers using bombs instead of gas chambers.
UH??? how can one explain their view if they are being interrupted? should he have said "be quiet?" what difference does it make? have u ever had a moderated debate before?
@@lilyy7204 theres no "IF" question. the situation you describing cannot ever happen if Hamas was inside Israel since Hamas wouldn't get to the point to have these kind of Tunnels.
Jesus Christ, the amount of rudeness in this room. He told an invited guest to “shut up” in front of a room full of people. And the moderator said nothing? Disgraceful and unworthy of a reputable university.
Yes. The more I listen to Harvard and Oxford students, the more it becomes clear that these students cannot be taken as seriously academics. It is simply proof that IQ without experience and absence of ideological filters is not very useful.
Apparently he was going comment on the authoritarian and unnecessary government policies related to Covid. I suspect the DNC state run media folks at RUclips couldn’t have that.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@GG-sn1mw Not one communist was FORCED to go up there and speak, they chose to. They successfully proved that uni students are silly little activist children who throw temper tantrums when challenged 😂
Being a student, I am saying this. You come to a debate with facts, not religious thinking, and just because you're an Oxfordian doesn't mean you're a good debater.
I like how you implied that the _students_ are the religious zealots. One thing I appreciate about Ben is that he rarely appeals to his religion and makes secular arguments for his positions.
Okay do u want facts. ok then fact number 1 where was Israel before 1948 ? Did it have a land? Did it have right to steal another's land ?Did Israel have the right to kill people who defend their lands ?Did Israel have the right to stay in another's lands and stay at them by force ? Did Israel have the right to lie in front of all the people who know better the history of the conflict with all this steadiness?
Embarrassing for Oxford. Can you belive that these are actual university students lol? It's like scrolling through tiktok where some random teenagers read like 1 NY post article and yelled fire. Horrible to think so much hope is placed on these people for being the "future".
@@IG74482, the students should be embarrassed, as well, as they have demonstrated they have abysmal moral standards and are deficient in logic, reason, and compassion.
Oh yes the terifying reality that young adults express opposing views to your own. They should know more before entering university. If only those programs had more funding. I would pay to see you infront of 60 freshamn college students giving a class.
@@Satiro723 these are not kids from TikTok these are college students. They should be the cream of the crop. The issue is not the opposing view it’s the horrible childish rude attitude, as well as the unsupported, poorly researched enough argument that are completely embarrassing.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
the Oxford union treating a visitor this eay is shocking. The "man" in the white was so vile. His contempt for Ben and the applause he received was telling of the state of Oxford university currently
Well, i think he was just angry and emotional that ben dodged the facts and truths with very vile way. Still man must retain his manners and don’t go low..
Exactly, Obviously, everyone knows that human rights don't apply if you are poor, brown and Muslim....... Ukraine is white, therefore freedom fighters. Palestinians brown, therefore terrorists. The system works.
@@louis2711 Samina Khan, said: “We are not getting the right number of black people with the talent to apply to us and that is why we are pushing very hard on our outreach activity.” so they go to underprivileged schools... target kids based on the color of their skin... and then the underprivileged schools they targeted show up on applications. It's actually way way worse than asking ethnicity on the application.
So disappointing to see that people felt it was appropriate be so rude to a guest speaker. Regardless of whether we agree or disagree, we shouldn't be so rude to someone's face simply for the kudos of the crowd.
I think its rude for them to bring Ben to oxford and compare them to them, this entire video is Ben taking L's and ignoring questions... hes not that smart when theres actual smart people in the room.
@@seanstapelfeld HAHAHA - "He's not that smart" Thank you for the laugh. Oxford is a joke, filled with young minds who study Wikipedia to stay informed. Zero life experience and historical revisionists.
It's funny watching Muslims get upset that a superior force is "stealing their land" despite the Quran saying Muslims have the right to take non-believers land. Muslims cry like babies when they are held to the same standards and the favor is returned.
The fact that we are seeing literally one of the strongest academic institutions in the world showcasing students who believe emotion and fact are the same, is one of the most disheartening things I've watched in a long time.
In politics emotions have mattered more than facts forever. In fact they exactly teach that it in university's debate groups how to evoke emotions in listeners to help support your point and all these populist politicians with posh accents begin to pick up their skill of talking bullshit and get away while in universities like Oxford and Cambridge. That's because while on one hand these institutions are indeed putting out scientific work that is genuine on other side of it - these institutions are also play club for rich and clever boys where they are learning to game the system.
@@danielbenitez6985people that believe a man can put on a Justin Bieber woman people that believe it's called a burst her babies do all kinds of evil to little kids justify all kind of crime and violence at the border and throughout America are not people who are of a moral conscience.. which is why you make excuses for evil terrorists that do evil to little children and women because evil people support evil everything about the Democratic platform the free Palestinian liars as they don't understand. God said the Philistines who now calls himself the Palestinians will never inherit Israel no part of Israel they will ever have any part in Israel. Rather than humble themselves and accept that God had a plan for the land of Israel and the last days rather than turn from their sins to Jesus Christ they're doing exactly what God said he would do and what evil people would do in the last days they would rage they would kill to get their way that's what these wicked free Palestinians are all about going against the plan of God to their own damnation! The lion Philistine who call themselves Palestinians are free to go wherever they want but why don't you look at the surrounding Nations nobody wants them you know why because they are arrogant self-righteous spiritually dirty toxic people thank God not all of them but most of them they're evil their vile they're violent just like BLM just like antifa just like the LGBT all these movements are movements of Saran.
It's interesting how some of these students know how to do respectful debate whereas others insist on opening with insults. They don't realize how much it hurts their credibility.
The fact is no debate here. is needed , this snake $hapiro needs an insult and face slap. Its a clear issue of people wanting their stolen land and life back. Itzreal has no right to defend itself because it's the aggressor. A house invador doesn't have the right to defend himself against the home owners.
I remember one student from Czech Republic who was respectful in asking politely Ben Shapiro. The majority of the students acted as kindergarten children craving for attention.
@@Double_Greatthis is the problem with the world. These kids go to radical schools and are taught what’s popular, and not real history. Israel is surrounded on all sides by counties that want all Jews dead( also American/UK haters). They continue to try and live in peace. The attacks of October 7th is a direct result of Iran trying to prevent a Muslim country having good relations with the Jewish state.
No one cares anymore they just want some type of instant feeling reaction and it doesn’t matter if it’s true as long as it feels a certain way. Truth takes work, and now no one wants to work.
@@benkhaled4987 kids aren’t being given proper education (refuse to get taught proper education) so the school decides to bring in the big gun. Thank you Ben for waking these kids up with standardized education.
The University of Oxford seems to be doing a horrible job at educating their students. These kids live in echo chambers, and think being loud and rude wins them an argument...
😂duh so is the rest of the world because everybody's so caught up in dumb stuff like what are the Kardashians up to 😅 you can go to any college campus across this country and ask people basic questions and they won't know them because they're educated on their own ignorance
Kinda like the echo chambers conservatives live in, or liberals live in. Religious people, Rich people or celebrities? Most people gravitate to echo chambers. I'm sure it was the same 20 & 30 years ago😂
@@chaoticstylezSure, but I have the feeling the internet has definitely made things worse. Now it's so easy to find little communities of people who fire each other up. Wether its YT comment sections, FB groups, Telegram groups, Discord servers... And especially the algorithm on this very platform: it really pushes videos on people that get a little bit more "radical" all the time. New York Times had a good podcast on this, its called "Rabbit Holy". Definitely recommended :-)
They've exchanged good for evil. Being rude, loud, aggressive is seen as respectable and honourable in the worldview-religion of those students. Being gentlemanly, respectful in contrast is seen as weak and cowardly.
In Poland if a student said 'shut up' during a university debate, he would be silenced immediately and expelled the day after. We have to sign a pledge saying; 'I solemnly vow (...) to treat with respect the authorities of the university and all members of it's community, respect academic laws and customs and look after the dignity and honour of a university student'. On this ground anyone can be removed from the course for being rude, disrespectful or acting dishonourably. I think it may be the same in Czech Republic.
I can't believe an Oxford student actually told his interlocutor to shut up. Coming from, supposedly, one of the best universities in the world. Absolutely shameful and disgusting behaviour.
Look at the state of the current student bodies and recent (past 10-15 years) alumni as opposed to what it used to be pre 2010 and there’s your answer. Also Oxbridge has been desperately and frantically enrolling ‘diverse’ students for the past decade and a half so much so to the point where being Muslim or black - regardless of your grades and moral values - gets you an instant tick. Unfortunately both Oxford and Cambridge are being turned into ghettos for the ‘disadvantaged minorities’ who have absolutely no desire to respect or learn about the culture and heritage of Oxbridge and instead would rather smear the very foundations of both institutes with their unBritish and uncivilised rhetoric and behaviours.
@@guzylad5Ben isn’t an Oxford student though. If you’re a student enrolled at one of - if not the most - prestigious universities in the world it’s probably best you have a clean tongue and an even cleaner nobility about you
indeed a joke😀! In WW2, the use of nuclear weapons was deemed justified for mass killing. However, in the present day, such actions are no longer acceptable, even in times of war. This represents human progress in our moral standards and the value we place on human life. In the west, police forces are generally not allowed or encouraged to use force to kill a kidnapper if innocent people are being held hostage. but this respect for human life may not be universally upheld elsewhere, especially in Gaza and Afghan. his is an unfortunate reality. Domestically, the West has established laws and regulations to protect the rights and safety of its people, but some places in our planet, that obvious piece has long been missing.
@@Remnant709Sure,the greeks started the revolutionary war aggainst the ottoman empire when they wanted independence. Poor ottomans 😢😢😢,why they couldn't just accept the sultan's absolute power
there's difference between colonial approaches and conquest approach, Muslims throughout the history never colonised a country in fact what they did is conquering new states to spread the true message and the religion of god, you will say no they used sword and force, yes they did but not against civilians and not against elderly and children nor women, but only against the armies that actually fought back and the one who surrendered or accepted the religion weren't touched at all. so do some research or if not stay shut because Islam is still the religion of the true god and creator of this universe, wether it's spread or not.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended. So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose. Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
Most students at these elite universities come from rich families who buy their children’s degrees. It’s ridiculous how many post grads are incapable of doing the job their degrees qualify them for.
Yep, they're all dross. And these people end up running the UK government, which tells you why the UK is a failed state that cannot organise itself, has a weak economy and zero military.
It's amazing how Ben finds dumb people to debate so he can sound smart. I'd like to see him debate a historian or a credible journalist with an opposing view. I used to respect this guy. He's such a little snake.
to support Israel means you support colonization. It takes lil knowledge to know Ben is bought and payed for and just like candice owens, has been promoted since he’s apart of the system, the system that keeps the west secure
@@isaacneumannthese are not children. These are college students. They are some of the best and brightest of their peers. It is not cringy to debate ideas with young adults.
@@HusseinSheekh Its incredibly embarrassing that these "educated" children are completely unable to have any talk or debate without immediately coming from a place of emotion. Its beyond embarrassing that these places are supposed to be places of higher learning meaning these people are supposed to have educations/intelligence above the norm hence the "higher learning" these people should be able to think objectively based off facts and separate emotions yet every one comes up with an emotionally charged argument, speaking in condescending tones and clearly only up there to "win an argument" and not have a discussion. These children using serious real world issues to show their virtue is embarrassing and disgusting, they literally keep calm open debates from happening and actively keep us from progressing as a species. These are some of the worst kind of people , yes they are an embarrassment to the United States and to the entirety of the Human Race.
YES, and our so-called politicians such easy to move pawns by "hidden powers" which is reflected and cause of our Universities being in such a state as today.
There's an old saying that some people are educated beyond their intelligence. It takes a certain amount of innate intelligence to make education worthwhile.
It’s not educated vs intelligent. Intelligence is gathered by gathering education so you can become smarter about the world. It doesn’t make you intelligent. Better and further education can lead to becoming smarter. Plenty of people have mounds of education and are not necessarily intelligent.
I am absolutely shocked at the ignorance and lack of actual intelligence that these Oxford students are showing. Oxford, you’ve really scored an own goal here…
It's not ignorance or lack of intelligence, it's bias. That's why they can check up information on their smartphones to make accusations, but they can't take the time to check if the stuff they see aren't repurposed from other wars.
@@sigmacademy Wrong. Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization what makes this pro Hamas speech a crime. Supporting crimes against humanity like what the women does is a crime in it self. Those Oxford members are probably committing crimes by releasing this video. As this video has also no educational background and also no historical. It's just a straight hate speech.
I'm genuinely ashamed to be a student here after watching this. Our country (and world more broadly) seems so divided. None of us (including myself) are informed enough to spot misinformation from reality. Being unable to fact check everything (as we have busy lives) is leading to us simply accepting false information and sticking to what we think we know. We're not singing from the same hymn sheet. Also, saying "shut up" and using such a tone for any *guest* at the Oxford Union is appalling. The man deserves more respect than that, whether you agree with him or not.
13:30 - "Britain wasn't bombing (German) civilians in WWII." They Did. I know. I'm a German. And every German child born after 1945 has been told this to this very day. Because we - German people - unleashed the unthinkable on humanity. And we will never forget that. But apparently students going to one of the most prestigious universities ever don't need to know any of this. I'm speechless.
@@rinvak2476 😂 u mean the native Americans or the people of British origins that life in the americas now who had killed the natives Americans left right and centre and deleted them from America?
of the students? Ben supports Israel...as in, an Apartheid state that has occupied Palestinians for decades, founded their state via colonial powers, and murders Palestinians so casually that Israeli leasers refer to this as "mowing the lawn." Ben is the morally lazy one. Also, he's not an intellectual. He's a moron that speaks as if he knows something, while the substance he speaks is actual nonsense
False the guy at 15:40 was keeping with him and fact checking him bringing up numerous false lies from his videos he even one video says no one cares about international law when referring to what happened with the war In 67 which was started by a preemptive strike by Israel from Israel on Egypt ben states that Egypt started this war by mobilizing its military within side its own borders which is legal
Childsplay for Shapiro! Hot air without saying anything of substance. Even the moderator dismissed him from the stage. Immediately Ben gets to the crux of his hidden intention; that is that he doesn't want a two state peaceful solution
The only moral midget I saw in this video was Mr. Shapiro. He doesn't even believe women should have bodily autonomy. As far as morals go he lives in the 19th Century. What a pathetic self-righteous man.
Take it from me - the world will be destroyed by those who pick sides without being directly affected. This includes the left who instead of advocating its liberal ideals choose to side with an organisation which is inherently against it. This includes countries like Japan which had no purpose to join Germany in WW2 except to gain power in the East. You fight wars which aren't yours who will pay with humanity's future. Like the muslims living in the west, who have every bit of freedom but root for Hamas in Palestine.
@@MrInfinite43Yes. And the people on the Right who knew things were being done to influence our kids and did nothing about it. We are all guilty of this at some point
I've recently worked alongside Oxford graduates and never understood why they were so clueless and yet still so arrogant. Until now. What a disastrous 'debate'.
The elite pretending to be of the people, being working class, I preferred it when they knew what they were, the victimisation that these kids feel, it’s beyond parody, to be that entitled, to feel that entitled, to cast judgement on others, when they have had all the advanges that their parents have given them, makes you feel kinda sick 🤢 they don’t even see it 😂
A very small minority of students (maybe like 1%) are part of the Oxford Union. The Union does not have any official ties to the actual university. In my time there I met very few students who were part of the Union because it is basically an expensive and pretentious club. The very serious and mature students I met at Oxford were never part of the Union, so in my opinion this private debate club is in no way an actual representation of the university body.
And it's getting worse, Harvard is getting along. Mouths concocting stupid bullshit by kids that are better at ruining stupid girl's vaginas and drinking beer. 😂😂
Asking for justification of inhumane acts by IDF is not arrogance, these students were asking for justice, Mr Shapiro talked as if he is a resident of Gaza
@@lane1776 What are you talking about? The Middle East had the best of both worlds! The emergence of Islam guided people both to thinking freely and submission to God. This resulted in the Golden Age of Islam while still keeping humans within the border of moral sanity. That is so beacuse the Quran calls people to use their intellect. Philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, medicine and much more flourished. This idea of "sapere aude!" preceded Kant by more than a thousand year. The dark ages was more advanced than us when it comes to morality, yet they lacked the study of sciences. And when enlightment came, the opposite happened. The West advanced, however, they starting losing faith, consequently leading to Nietzsche's "God is dead". That resulted in the first and second WW. What do we learn from that? That the right way is the middle way. Not too cold, not too warm. Not too high, not too low. Humans must both submit to God and their intellect.
That guy wasn't in the mood to have a civil debate, he just wanted stage so that he could try his best to "boo" the guest. Classy indeed. He's a future politician.
It drives me mad that these people clapped against his simply saying shut up like he just did a mic drop moment. These people are only here for gotcha moments. I dont understand how this is one of the top universities in the world.
@@SlicedBread2014most of these guests probably came with a specific mind set and no intention for it to change, so they used every last bit of the few moments where Ben was “owned” to applaud and cheer the crap out of it, even though Ben demolished their statement mere seconds later.
I really love these conversations even if its 9 months ago but Ben Shapiro nailed all of them. He's like a very clear mirror 🪞 reflecting even the inner of their souls his last words truly makes him a great leader. From Philippines a very humble country with a very nice and hospitable people who gone through a lot studies in histories around the globe. God bless you Sir! You're like a ballistic mirror 🪞
The Czech student is just so sweet and respectful. Its fair for everyone of the students to ask direct and hard questions, just be a kind and respectful while doing so...
The Czech student was my favorite also,very respectful,he will go far. The girls were arrogant,entitled and rude. They lost whatever point they were trying to make because their attitudes. They’ll peak in college,the real world won’t cater to their over amplified sense of entitlement.
It isnt the quality of the education obviously. It isnt the quality of the people who attend or teach there, obviously. Obviously it is the exclusivity of the entire institution, whom you know and network with, build reputation with during your stay there, and stay connected with through fellowships and alumni orgs.
too late. we have bunch of college kids protesting things...but many of them can't defend there position. "Social justice" is an example. they will use something erroneous from a politician and run with it. No research necessary. If someone challenge them, they yell on top of their lungs and run off.
@@Rakschas666 I'm pretty sure that the quality of the education includes those who teach there. While networking is a benefit of attending an institution like this, it has nothing to do with the quality of the education.
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The fact that students cheered more on low grade insults than the arguments is why we are in this position across the world.
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Hamas is owned by Israel Gov with proven stated by ex israel politician. The conclusion is Israel Is criminal State that created both Idf Terrosrist and Hamas to wipe out Palestinians.
Wow. You are so right.
they are teenagers ...
where are the images 1400 bodies and 1400 funerals of OCT 7th?
"Britain didn't bomb civilians" LMAO. Girl you don't even want to know what the allies did to win that war.
She doesnt want to know because she rather tell lies to suit her narrative!
I'm neither British or German and even I know about the Dresden bombings and carpet bombing that went on
Britain literally supported nazis DURING the war if Churchill felt certain countries had socialist affiliates
@@Shelleys101she needs to read her history
And what did the Nazis do, oh yes killed 6 million Jews and invaded Europe
This was shocking, a student telling a guest to shut up was the height of rudeness, reflects very badly on Oxford, I was shocked
So, you are just choosing to not believe the facts these students are expressing within their arguments? And better simply labeling it as IGNORANCE because their points do not favor your biases. You’re buddy Ben was actually spreading false information and even going as far as labeling students as antisemitic and saying they favor genocide because they follow factual history and not history based on a floating man in the skys “heavens”. Great point!
Yep, sadly, that's the attitude of a typical Musliim
And he will do it again because he got applause for it.
@@phillippac.7469exactly how disgusting is this to see people applause for that
It's not like the guest called his argument "bullshit"
"Britain didn't bomb german civilians" ladies and gentlemen, this is what oxford has to offer
😂😂😂😂😂😂
But Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. You said it, there are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mw it’s Oxford you plebe. These students are supposedly the top candidates and will likely be in high offices later in their life. If they can’t handle a debate, then they need to realize that being humble and educating themselves further is the best option. Your argument is beyond stupid. Are you telling me that we’re not supposed to let these supposed highly educated students debate higher level opponents in order to not only educate them but help them grapple with what they will experience in the real world? You’re a joke if you honestly think this is a problem.
@@GG-sn1mw it’s Oxford you plebe. These students are supposedly the top candidates and will likely be in high offices later in their life. If they can’t handle a debate, then they need to realize that being humble and educating themselves further is the best option. Your argument is beyond stupid. Are you telling me that we’re not supposed to let these supposed highly educated students debate higher level opponents in order to not only educate them but help them grapple with what they will experience in the real world? You’re a joke if you honestly think this is a problem.
@@GG-sn1mw then watch more videos of him doing the exact same thing to popular figures that are his age and older.. the real problem that these students are self entitled, over confidant, rude and are very uneducated even on basic history when they are students of a supposed to be top university, debating is not only being right but having proper mannerism
When that woman said "Britain wasn't bombing Germans..." I did a massive face slap and realised then that UK history lessons are clearly not up to standard.
She completely ignored the Dresden bombings
Haha you just realised that? Don't you know that they don't teach their real colonial history, the atrocities, famines, loot, poverty, cultural degradation, millions dieing and what not.
They've build everything up to standard through their colonial loot but are afraid to give standard and accurate history knowledge to their children.
From the looks of her, a quick look into her own family history would've given an insight into British Empire attitude towards civilians within colonial possessions
. *Civilians...the word is civilians.*
I also slapped my face quite many times when the Clown itself was speaking
“It’s my displeasure.” “Shut up.”
How very elevated of this young man. Really showing his qualities, and the unfortunate and sad state of this institution.
Another failed applicant...
@@Humanity101-zp4sqso you are an anti semite?
I am an anti-fascist, and I do not condone any culture which genitally mutilates its own babies, and conducts genocide in order to realise a theological fairy tale.@@southtexasobserver3306
@@Humanity101-zp4sqand someone will think u saw the four corners of a higher institution smh
It’s called speaking one’s mind and what about Ben using the word “bullshit?”
It’s embarrassing to think this was once a top class University. If this is the best we have to offer then God help us all.
Agreed 👏👏👏
Guess we’ll have to think for ourselves
@@jasminedavid2756 lol Ben gets owned by students. Now I know why this guy will never debate people like Muhammad hijab.
You are so right @robertjackson301. What she should have said was- "If we are going to draw parallels of the World War to the war against Palestine, then just on the "victim vs. aggressor narrative", the allied position would be similar to Palestine and Germans would be the aggressors/occupiers/ethnic cleansers- ergo Israel". Would love to see Bassem Yousuf debate with Ben on the same platform. Wouldn't you agree?
@@JackRafaelStfu , go check your brain
Apparently, "please shut up" is a great argument in the 21st Century.
What he said before was true
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mwben didn't take on students the idea was that students will come up and ask questions they wanted to take ln ben they just messed around and found out
Ben did debate more experienced people about the Israel abd hamas complex you can search it its there
Okay now i know for certain you didn't watch the video ben talked about everything hamas israel not just that arabs didn't want a two state country plus no there are mo evidence what so ever this just straight up bs oh and ive seen someone who debunked you and commented on your comment but you just ignored it and kept saying the same bs you are saying which just shows that you can't except the truth you are denying it
@@GG-sn1mw So peace between arab states and Israel is not in the interest of mankind?
What about the proposed 2 state solutions would have been unjust to the arabs? Israel was willing to compromise a larger and more fertile territory in the pursuit of peace.
@@GG-sn1mw I am 5 years younger than these students. I am in high school, and I have better self-control and better manners than these students. I always start talking to people with a Hi, how are you? and a handshake. Such rudeness shown by these students baffle me. No excuse for them to act like idiots, regardless of their views. I agree with Ben, and I want the awful war to end. Hamas invaded Israel when they launched the missiles. I do not care about the reason to fight within both sides. I am simply anti-terrorist, and I do not care about the motives for their existence. Israel was attacked by terrorists and modern warfare causes the deaths of many civillians. If Trump wins, he will end it as a status quo ante bellum.
Lost her entire argument when she said Britain wasn't attacking civilians
It was mostly Nazis not all Germans though also operation paperclip they didn’t even kill Nazis meanwhile Nazis killed 27 million people in Russia including soldiers and civilians; you can go after terrorists but how is bombing babies helpful? Try another argument than just human shields
Literally the silliest thing I've heard haha
what evidence do you have of Israel's "continued oppression and genocide of the whole people of Palestine"? i just have to hear this. @@PARSIDOKHT
genocide ? what drugs are you on? give me some
@@thechannel2378 he's a bot
It is absolutely idiotic that we live in a time where being childish and immature gets you the loudest applause.
100%. Disgrace to my uni.
Look no further than the UK government and their house of commons behaviour
He has gone far too long between punches in the mouth.
Truth touches heart no matter if you try to hide it.!
It's no longer a university of intellectuals, they started promoting affirmative action and diversity, feminism and identity politics... Now its just a bunch of children that see themselves as victims. A decade or so ago, you'd never imagine that in Harvard or oxford, students would be teasing other students in a formal discussion such as this one, saying no when someone asks if the crowd can hear them, and applauding someone for an insult they threw at their opponent. If these are the future leaders of our nation, we're doomed.
Oxford needs to lift their standards. With one or two exceptions, including the Czech national, this was embarrassing for an institution that’s supposedly top tier. The rudeness, disrespect and lack of knowledge is embarrassing.
And that's just the academic staff........
The standards have been raise. They are actually talking to Ben Shapiro instead of whining against him in this format.
It's outrageous and embarrassing.....
Yes, Ben Shapiro is embarrassing.
If you want a higher quality debate, shoot higher than Ben Shapiro.
He dominates with aggressive speech, raising one’s voice, name calling, accusing, interrupting, and talking as fast as a chipmunk to get more words in. These are his strategies.
He has a record of being insanely disrespectful to women.
If you invite Ben, you’re going to have a “Ben-quality” debate.
The bar became low when he walked in the door.
@@freebird5309😂😂😂😂 you guys just cant beat us in anything thats why you still stuck 75 years backwards 😢😢 only hate that’s what you know
" LET ME FINISH" then proceeds to interrupt ben the whole time lol 😂
Well the student did state what ben Shapiro already thought about it parpatiating lies so who wouldn't be upset
@@huntercarpenter3861There's absolutely nothing that Ben was lying about. That upset literally can only come to Muslims when they realize they're evil & ☪️ancer.
@@huntercarpenter3861this is undeniable history
Jordan did come from the mandate though@@huntercarpenter3861
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
Totally shocked at how rude these students were. Their arrogance was breathtaking, peace will not happen with that approach.
And Ben Shapiro's approach wasn't arrogant and patronising at all, I suppose.
@@Humanity101-zp4sq Arrogant ≠ not true
@@Humanity101-zp4sq it take Ben over that kid screaming to shut up everyday to speak for me.
@@itsikisraeli8967 But it does get you told to shut up in response. You get what you give.
What peace are you talking about when Israel is fucking it all up.
There is no right for Jews to make their state in someone else's land.
If you have to choose between the peace and righteousness I'll go for righteousness: Finkelstein 😘
An Oxford student saying britain didn't cause civilian casualties during the war was as worrying as it gets. At least the rest of the room seemed to understand how stupid that statement was but it worries me that these people will say such things with insane overconfidence.
What happens when you take in people based on racial % rather than intellectuality. Bet there were hundreds of girls smarter than her who could’ve took her place at Oxford but because she represents a religious sect or people of a specific ethnicity, she probably got in.
@@DizzyKSixSpot on.
I cringed when she insisted that Britain didn't cause casualties, I cringed HARD!
Yep. I live on the other side of the world but world history were taught in our secondary school. I literally shook my head. A little knowledge is really dangerous. Echo chamber is strong with that one.
Just think, Oxford used to be a school of higher learning. Apparently now they are producing educated idiots.
The girl when she said British doesn’t incur civilian casualties during war, the whole crowd was shocked by her statement, and I also jaw dropped. How ignorant a kid can be? Kids can be ignorant but the fact that she is studying in Oxford, that… makes you wonder
Oxford is overrated
You underestimate her religious brain bro
She is in only for diversity.
Her wits didn't get her there
She is not explaining why attack innocent civilians enjoying a holiday. They didn't attack armed soldiers. But unarmed people
@@vijayaprabu6669Says the Hindutva fascists 😂
History of PALESTINIAN STATE: 1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic state the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE
before palestine, there was israel
Thank you for this.
Don’t care, free Palestine
Thanks for taking out the time.
definition of ignorance @@durfdurffigan8680
"Britain did not bomb civilians" - I invite this young lady to my hometown Hamburg. There is enough rubble of civilian infrastructure to be looked at.
or Bruchsal or Karlsruhe 😢 sad 😞
Still haven't finished picking it up?
So condemn Britain as well as IDF 😠
What about Dresden?
some was kept there as a reminder that it is not a good idea to piss off stronger countries. I think Gaza needs the same to make them understand@@kel8026
this just proved to me going to the most prestigious school will not make you bright.
Now days it’s usually the opposite
not is you have affirmative action for "protected peoples"
Ha exactly what i thought.
Especially when the most prestigious schools endeavor only to brainwash, not teach..
@@mareezyHarvard’s woke as well now, all major universities seem to be
Hearing these arguments from Oxford students just reminds me, it doesn't matter how intelligent you are, just how much money your parents have.
And also modern higher education does not teach you common sense.
Engaging in debate fairly relies more on overall ability to play fair than it relies on intelligence. It’s about refraining from the dirty hits and going for the fair ones, and letting your opponent do the same knowing it might hurt.
Like being able to play soccer without getting upset when you’re outplayed or smacked in the face with the ball.
Education doesn't equal to intelligence
You can be a Harvard grad and still be stupid
Bruh most Ivy Leagers get need based scholarships, which are not awarded to high income families
Because intelligence and wisdom are not the same.
No matter if you like Ben or not, the fact that he made this video to be the 6th highest viewed on the Oxford Union channel among those videos 9-10 years ago, and was able to debate fluently for an hour, is really amazing.
Nope. His debating skills are juvenile at best -- he doesn't back up any claim with any evidence, merely deflecting into slanted questions. There's a reason why his initials are B.S.
@@JohnathanEndersure 😂
Nonsense@@JohnathanEnder
@@JohnathanEnderCope harder. Seethe harder.
The "b s " thing is an indicator for us to ignore your previous statements@@JohnathanEnder
How do Oxford students not have better arguments than random Twitter/X users?
Twitter (or X) and TikTok is full or. Orkns, hence why left the former and never joined the first.
All them students are there because of their rich parents. Plenty of money no brains 🧠
The quality of students at educational institutions has gone sharply downhill over the last few decades.
Additionally, the accessibility of information online has gone way up.
So it's a combination of students getting more ignorant and (some) people online getting less ignorant.
@angryedgelord4111 why because they don't agree with your outdated bs?
Because this is where the majority get their information , and if those arguments fit their ideology, which it almost always does because that’s how the algorithms work, they believe it without an open mind
As a citizen of the UK all I can say is if this is what’s representative of our higher education we’re doomed 😢
As a regular person who is tired of seeing doomers crying for likes, you're indeed doomed to cry for likes for the rest of your life. 😐
@@NobodyAsked-xh8csWhen your parents die, you will have to get a job... 🙄
It’s the same here in the USA.
imagine a 3rd world country who is the more dooomed than the representative
England is irrelevant
Best ad ever to not hire an Oxford graduate
😂
These are the same students who will enter public life in UK soon
Two were so radicalized, they are unfit to work in a free society in my opinion.
💯
@@Little-bird-told-me oh no...
My mom studied at the university of london and had met people from oxford and told me that oxford has always been a respected and prestigious university. It's unbelievable to me how it has devolved into its current state
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
because the UK keeps accepting people with jihad Isis mentality and they are taking control of everything
How could this Girl who lives in Britain NOT know that GB bombed civilians in WW2. This is common basic knowledge?!
EXACTLY!
She knew, she just answered too quickly with a defensive answer.
Great Britain was also instrumental in rebuilding Germany after WW, and after what they did to the jews
Everyone with a brain knows everyone one way or another bombed and killed civilians during that war......everyone knows that.....except these idiots.
I m not racist, to answer yr question because she goes to Mosque and dont receives British education
When you start off a conversation with insults your credibility is voided
I think it speaks to your character, but I don't think it invalidates any points you make. I do think it has no place in a formal debate tho, not that these debates where incredibly formal.
@@borthYT Part of being an effective communicator is not alienating others, no? My father was a psychiatrist and always said there is a way to disagree without being disagreeable
@@daftmario123 yes i fully agree, all i’m saying is that they could still make valid points even if they do lack respect and effective communication.
Most people in the left absorbs info without hesitation and without investigation and they often throw insults. @borthYT
@@borthYT You are correct, someone stating your argument is null in void because you used a logical fallacy such as an ad hominem attack is in itself also a logical fallacy. I agree that it has no place in a formal debate, but if it does show up it certainly speaks to your character.
These kids should ask for a refund from Oxford . It's Embarrassing
taxpayers and donors should ask for a refund. those "students" should go and get a real job.
😂
Nope. The kid's parent should ask for a refund from the kids 😀
Some had pretty good arguments, and it takes a lot to stand in front of a camera and speak your thoughts in a world that rejects it.
A refund?
They should be ask to pay more. Wasting taxpayer resources
They cradle their iPhone as though it is the most precious source of Wisdom.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@@GG-sn1mw
Being 20 years old or 40 years old...
It makes little difference, they're adults, at the finest educational establishment in Europe.
Being polite and informed, transcends age - you appear to be making excuses for these bigoted, ignorant snobs.
As an Oxford graduate from 1986, I found the behaviour of the students to be embarrassing.
as a human being with common sense I find it embarrassing
They are more influenced by social media sort of bias
Yes the third person and the boy in the Nikes were "embarrassing" but the first girl who spoke and the man in the suit and tie weren't, if you think they were "embarrassing" then I'd like to see you debate against Ben. What does unembarrassing behaviour look like to you?
You can blame the institution for hiring the Professors who have been filling that crap into the students heads.
Now we are at a point where these students are defending their indoctrination with yelling and screaming and not being able to process the truth.😢
@ThePowerMoves Their inability to have a mature respectful debate without resorting to “shut your mouth i’m speaking”. Thats the commentary of a child, not an aspiring mature student at a (supposedly) elite university.
Oxford alumni here-- this was a bad showing from the Union. The lack of basic respect shown to Ben and the utter hostility of both the Union officers and the crowd makes them look extremely childish. Instead of having the nuanced discussion a topic like this deserves, we got this display of emotional fragility, grandstanding, and failed "gotcha" moments from a few students who clearly think too highly of themselves. What a shame.
It was more than obvious, however, that in this time of "emotional fragility" and myriad deaths in Gaza everyday, that the majority of the community did not want to hear what Ben Shapiro had to say. He's a known propagandist, just from his lack of address of how Israel funded Hamas, and his reliance on sarcasm and patronising behaviour to get him to seem assertive. His methods are obvious. When you know him as the man who wrote both Anti-Arab and Anti-Palestine tweets years back, and the man who stormed out of a BBC interview, not debate, it does not shine the best light on him. In times like this, you will see the worst of people, and you cannot blame them; I have no respect for a liar and a man who argues with young adults for a living. If he had some self-respect, he would allow his own ideas to be challenged by people on a similar level to him in terms of knowledge.
Ben lowered the tone from the get go by saying that one of the students had a "bullshit argument". His way of debating is aggressively arrogant & his constant attempt to intimidate and undermine the opposing argument says a lot about his character. Considering that he has a global platform & behaves in such a despicable way says a lot about "the bullshit" being consumed by those who refuse to educate themselves.
That simpleton, Shapiro, should never have been there. That's the tragedy of Oxford ...the guy is Z list intellectually.
@@ariona7756 He was setting up the following questioners to ask questions of merit, well documented/researched, etc. and not just hyper emotional/propaganda based....
I'm assuming from what I've seen that Oxford offer a "do it like Kath Newman" course?
Why do younger people not understand why they are even able to stand up and give an opinion? Millions of men and woman gave their lives up for us to be able to do this.
@chuckfrezzel348. USMC 64---68. Hello from Palermo Sicily. Well, Amen to you Brother. And I served and fought along side many of those MEN who gave their lives. And this Muslim Lady is a distant result of LBJ'S changing of the Immigration Policy. When he opened the door to the Third World. And now the USA is the Third World.
@@DavidFrehlini-y1y This new world is hard for me to understand sometimes, but I will never, ever forget what it took to get here 🫡.
because they didnt earn it
Thats not even real, people get fired for expressing support to the Palestininian people and boycotting Isreael is illegal in 26 US states
@@deanazarnush884 exactly
I am an Oxford Alumn. I do not agree most ideas Ben spouses. However, I do acknowledge the courage, cleverness, determination, and strength that he shows by upholding his beliefs and convictions in front of a belligerent and unfriendly audience. That his highly commendable. Very few people in the world do that today.
*espouses
@@sam-te1fu That wonderful feeling of superiority one feels when one gets to correct people's typos in comments. I too get a high out of it. 🌿♨
@@FernandoVazquez-ro1nw lol, nice.
Hand clapping at “shut up” says EVERYTHING you need to know about the state of Oxford rn.
It's ALWAYS been about kicking BIG FAMOUS dogs, and then getting away with it. After all, nobody can hit you or say anything. It's ALL about sounding virtuous, yet acting up angrily, or maybe even violently if they can get away with it in mass quantity. In grammar school it was all about "I'm going to be 'stupid on purpose' because it's easier. I'm not even going to do any homework, I'll say it was too hard for me and stuff. They just try harder to help you if you do really rotten anyways, so why not be stupid on purpose because it's so much easier"?
These "shut up" types would say things like that at lunch or recess, and it'd work well and good for them because the teachers never caught on, just like it is now probably... parents and teachers are the VERY LAST to know or hear anything. Now they get to say "Shut up!" to very famous adults who come out to visit, and without any repercussion at all, even, not even a warning to be civil or stop speaking and go sit back down. What are they teaching students these days, how to seek easy attention with a mouth and tongue?
yep oxfords in great hands, you're on the wrong side of humanity here
@@a.w.67 false.
@@SWNelson7😂😂😂
Exactly!! Absolutly agree !! 👍
Based on the people in this video, my view on the students of Oxford University has taken a nose dive.
Same here! Waste of money
Oxford University's education quality has crashed a loooong time ago when the woke cultists took over the faculty.
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Your brain has taken a nosedive
Not too different from most “elite” universities
How'd you get to the University level without knowing that the allies flattened Germany?
Exactly, no matter who's right, wrong, good or evil... In war civilians WILL ALWAYS die. Horrendous but the truth and no politicians should lie about it.
Ww2 is such a false equivalency though. For starters Israel is fighting against a people that it already occupies
It doesn't occupy. It gave up the land and the people democratically voted in Hamas. A recent poll gave 87% of them backing Hamas.
@@Max-gk6otI wonder, would you support British people if they made an "Isreal" in Germany after WW2 in Berlin? Or would they be occupiers?
@@Max-gk6ot ISrael is fighting against the terrorist group called Hamas, not against people
"If you whip out your phone in a debate, you’ve already lost. And let me tell you why: if you don’t have your facts memorized but the other person does, it’s pretty clear who actually knows their stuff!"
remember : when u say "shut up" in an intelectual debate, you are immedeatly discredited
Ask him why he wanted no money and help to Ukraine but now supports money and resources to Israel . He’s a Zionist hypocrite. Maybe the stupid ones believes the bs . The new hitlers using bombs instead of gas chambers.
Like Biden when debate to Trump?
UH??? how can one explain their view if they are being interrupted? should he have said "be quiet?" what difference does it make? have u ever had a moderated debate before?
@@The_Goat_CR7.It's an uncivilized way to ask for Order.
Oh yeah . That guy was very childish and smug . I didn't get his point because I was too annoyed listening to his smarmy coddled voice
This is a new low for the Oxford, don't let your eyes be blinded by these so called prestigious institutions.
exactly!
ruclips.net/video/pWPijzzinKg/видео.htmlsi=Ze4KWb3gvWZdd6lP
Question for you, if Hamas was hiding under the tunnels & hospitals of Israel, would Israel carpet bomb itself?
@ljlyy7204 That is as irrelevant as you are!
@@lilyy7204 theres no "IF" question. the situation you describing cannot ever happen if Hamas was inside Israel since Hamas wouldn't get to the point to have these kind of Tunnels.
Jesus Christ, the amount of rudeness in this room. He told an invited guest to “shut up” in front of a room full of people. And the moderator said nothing? Disgraceful and unworthy of a reputable university.
Yes. The more I listen to Harvard and Oxford students, the more it becomes clear that these students cannot be taken as seriously academics. It is simply proof that IQ without experience and absence of ideological filters is not very useful.
The moderator showed her colors by asking Ben a question herself at the end there
Quite arrogant.
@@morrisgreg2176"moderator"
They’re not very British.
Why does this video freeze at the 31:15 mark, and restart after omitting what Shapiro states about Biden's overreach with OSHA? It's clearly been cut.
Just guessing the DNC controlled state run media folks at RUclips. But that’s just a guess.
Apparently he was going comment on the authoritarian and unnecessary government policies related to Covid. I suspect the DNC state run media folks at RUclips couldn’t have that.
I thought I was the only one who had the issue
@@aschoolofthought7262Yeah if you scroll down in the comments there are others who've mentioned it. It's a lil suspicious.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
The fact that children can argue so confidently and with so little information is beyond scary.
A young man thinks an old man's a fool but an old man knows a young man's a fool fact 🤔
Yeah sure grandma
go back to safe space @@zeest4rl19ht_6
So true. Their arrogance is inversely proportional to their knowledge.
Why is this "professional" arguing with children. Only time he's ever had a discussion with an adult he ran out like a child.
No way these students received applause with answers that are lacking in every way and form
An applause from others who are just as lacking of any real intelligence.
From those who are just devoid of intelligence
The applause is tradition, it wasn't an applause for the students nor the guest speaker, it's merely the standard operating procedure.
@@GiraffeFeatures That sounds oddly American to me.
@@MrHeavy466 Well considering the University of Oxford is 700 years older than the United States, I think they can take this one.
Ben has a lot of balls going to the home of British communism.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
@GG-sn1mw Not one communist was FORCED to go up there and speak, they chose to. They successfully proved that uni students are silly little activist children who throw temper tantrums when challenged 😂
Oxford student talking points were purely polemic and straight out of TikTok.
true.
Don't act like you smarter than Oxford students
@@miketyron7257 Exactly. Of course @zackm5693 would know, they probably spend most there day on there.
their day, not there day....@@gonnakms-g6q
@@miketyron7257I know people way smarter then Oxford and Harvard students 😅they’re all bias in this video
Being a student, I am saying this. You come to a debate with facts, not religious thinking, and just because you're an Oxfordian doesn't mean you're a good debater.
I like how you implied that the _students_ are the religious zealots. One thing I appreciate about Ben is that he rarely appeals to his religion and makes secular arguments for his positions.
@@FreakazoidRobotsWhat? Ben Shapiro is known for misconstruing facts to cater to his religious biases.
Oxford and Cambridge are filled with spoiled hubristic brats with little experience of the real world. Sadly some even end up running the country.
@@juliomenendez9458 Can you provide just one example of that?
Okay do u want facts. ok then fact number 1 where was Israel before 1948 ? Did it have a land? Did it have right to steal another's land ?Did Israel have the right to kill people who defend their lands ?Did Israel have the right to stay in another's lands and stay at them by force ? Did Israel have the right to lie in front of all the people who know better the history of the conflict with all this steadiness?
Embarrassing for Oxford. Can you belive that these are actual university students lol? It's like scrolling through tiktok where some random teenagers read like 1 NY post article and yelled fire. Horrible to think so much hope is placed on these people for being the "future".
Mind Begs the Question:
If those once Ethnic Cleansed
Ethnic Cleanse others
Following footsteps of their Oppressors,no?
@@IG74482, the students should be embarrassed, as well, as they have demonstrated they have abysmal moral standards and are deficient in logic, reason, and compassion.
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Oh yes the terifying reality that young adults express opposing views to your own. They should know more before entering university. If only those programs had more funding. I would pay to see you infront of 60 freshamn college students giving a class.
@@Satiro723 these are not kids from TikTok these are college students. They should be the cream of the crop. The issue is not the opposing view it’s the horrible childish rude attitude, as well as the unsupported, poorly researched enough argument that are completely embarrassing.
The people coming out of Oxford is a crime.
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
the Oxford union treating a visitor this eay is shocking. The "man" in the white was so vile. His contempt for Ben and the applause he received was telling of the state of Oxford university currently
Leftism is weaponized insanity. And in his case, moronity.
These are the "leaders" of tommorow
Well, i think he was just angry and emotional that ben dodged the facts and truths with very vile way. Still man must retain his manners and don’t go low..
@@imansh5132he did nothing of the sort. Nice try tho 😂😂😂
but he have some truth with what he said@@downtoearth5443
The kid that said “shut up” really thought he was having his main-character moment and said absolutely nothing at all.
That kid who said “shut up” doesn’t care for human lives. For him, it’s about land acquisition and winning a soccer match. Therein lies his hypocrisy.
I know I would be so embarrassed if I was him
@@AubreyLovesJesus1 He should go fight for Hamas! See how that works out for him!
People even applauded, it was the most smart thing he said
Yeah cause he got cut off cause he had Ben by the balls and he was going to start crying and singing sad Jew songs
If this is UK’s cream of the crop, it’s little wonder the UK economy is on such a downward spiral.
Forced inclusion quotas. For every moron student that came up a smarter more deserving one was probably denied.
Pathetic diversity students who got in because of their personal statement riddled with tears and I wear a hijab stories
Obviously, need to get more south Indians to come over to head the country - otherwise it will collapse.
Exactly, Obviously, everyone knows that human rights don't apply if you are poor, brown and Muslim.......
Ukraine is white, therefore freedom fighters.
Palestinians brown, therefore terrorists.
The system works.
@@louis2711 Samina Khan, said: “We are not getting the right number of black people with the talent to apply to us and that is why we are pushing very hard on our outreach activity.”
so they go to underprivileged schools... target kids based on the color of their skin... and then the underprivileged schools they targeted show up on applications. It's actually way way worse than asking ethnicity on the application.
I'm surprised Oxford uploaded this video and kept comment section open
So disappointing to see that people felt it was appropriate be so rude to a guest speaker. Regardless of whether we agree or disagree, we shouldn't be so rude to someone's face simply for the kudos of the crowd.
I think its rude for them to bring Ben to oxford and compare them to them, this entire video is Ben taking L's and ignoring questions... hes not that smart when theres actual smart people in the room.
Which is exactly one of the values of the west. Which makes it all the more sad that the west is crumbling down. Say your thanks to the wokes.
@@seanstapelfeld HAHAHA - "He's not that smart" Thank you for the laugh. Oxford is a joke, filled with young minds who study Wikipedia to stay informed. Zero life experience and historical revisionists.
Omg do you know who Ben Shapiro is? Rudeness? Are you joking?
It's funny watching Muslims get upset that a superior force is "stealing their land" despite the Quran saying Muslims have the right to take non-believers land. Muslims cry like babies when they are held to the same standards and the favor is returned.
The fact that we are seeing literally one of the strongest academic institutions in the world showcasing students who believe emotion and fact are the same, is one of the most disheartening things I've watched in a long time.
Your thoughts and feelings on this are irrelevant
In politics emotions have mattered more than facts forever. In fact they exactly teach that it in university's debate groups how to evoke emotions in listeners to help support your point and all these populist politicians with posh accents begin to pick up their skill of talking bullshit and get away while in universities like Oxford and Cambridge. That's because while on one hand these institutions are indeed putting out scientific work that is genuine on other side of it - these institutions are also play club for rich and clever boys where they are learning to game the system.
@@danielbenitez6985 The lack of historical knowledge is amazing.
The fact that you think u know facts astonishes me, go travel and stop reading books based on secondary resources in ur bed
@@danielbenitez6985people that believe a man can put on a Justin Bieber woman people that believe it's called a burst her babies do all kinds of evil to little kids justify all kind of crime and violence at the border and throughout America are not people who are of a moral conscience.. which is why you make excuses for evil terrorists that do evil to little children and women because evil people support evil everything about the Democratic platform the free Palestinian liars as they don't understand. God said the Philistines who now calls himself the Palestinians will never inherit Israel no part of Israel they will ever have any part in Israel.
Rather than humble themselves and accept that God had a plan for the land of Israel and the last days rather than turn from their sins to Jesus Christ they're doing exactly what God said he would do and what evil people would do in the last days they would rage they would kill to get their way that's what these wicked free Palestinians are all about going against the plan of God to their own damnation!
The lion Philistine who call themselves Palestinians are free to go wherever they want but why don't you look at the surrounding Nations nobody wants them you know why because they are arrogant self-righteous spiritually dirty toxic people thank God not all of them but most of them they're evil their vile they're violent just like BLM just like antifa just like the LGBT all these movements are movements of Saran.
He took them all on. No note taking, And he was able to categorize their whole arguments and respond. Damn
@collinthefrog1136 The vast of his student debate opponents have read off of their phone.
He's still (mostly) correct. @jasonfrazier4886
i immediately knew his level of intelligence was greater just by the simple fact he always looked at her and she was looking at her phone
hes fucking brilliant
That’s a critical thinker
The difference between a man who knows history and a people that learned it yesterday.
Brainlet comment, you're the type to say "history repeats itself" lmao touch grass
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
@@gramgram11 because it's true. There are many instances across history demonstrating its cyclical nature. All of Chinese history, for example.
@@ExponentMars every serious historian will disagree with you
Ben is dangerous.
It's interesting how some of these students know how to do respectful debate whereas others insist on opening with insults. They don't realize how much it hurts their credibility.
They'll get pats on the back from their peers sooo yeah that's good.
Lol
The fact is no debate here. is needed , this snake $hapiro needs an insult and face slap. Its a clear issue of people wanting their stolen land and life back. Itzreal has no right to defend itself because it's the aggressor. A house invador doesn't have the right to defend himself against the home owners.
I remember one student from Czech Republic who was respectful in asking politely Ben Shapiro. The majority of the students acted as kindergarten children craving for attention.
The brainwashed are beyond reason or debate.
@@Double_Greatthis is the problem with the world. These kids go to radical schools and are taught what’s popular, and not real history. Israel is surrounded on all sides by counties that want all Jews dead( also American/UK haters). They continue to try and live in peace. The attacks of October 7th is a direct result of Iran trying to prevent a Muslim country having good relations with the Jewish state.
How has such unchecked ignorance & point blank stupidity been allowed to spread to such dangerous levels in this country?
No one cares anymore they just want some type of instant feeling reaction and it doesn’t matter if it’s true as long as it feels a certain way. Truth takes work, and now no one wants to work.
The 'murican education system has been in Freefall for pushing 30Years.
Only surprise is that it took this long.
I support Ben, but I do not support anymore for profit propaganda wars used for financial gain
@@benkhaled4987sharing your wisdom it's not an abuse, dumbass. You should thank him
@@benkhaled4987 kids aren’t being given proper education (refuse to get taught proper education) so the school decides to bring in the big gun. Thank you Ben for waking these kids up with standardized education.
The only things these students can do is talk loudly and talk over anyone who disagrees with them or proves a point.
The University of Oxford seems to be doing a horrible job at educating their students. These kids live in echo chambers, and think being loud and rude wins them an argument...
😂duh so is the rest of the world because everybody's so caught up in dumb stuff like what are the Kardashians up to 😅 you can go to any college campus across this country and ask people basic questions and they won't know them because they're educated on their own ignorance
They’re not educating. They’re indoctrinating
Kinda like the echo chambers conservatives live in, or liberals live in. Religious people, Rich people or celebrities? Most people gravitate to echo chambers. I'm sure it was the same 20 & 30 years ago😂
'Let me finish!' while they go on a ten minute Twitter rant and not give Ben a chance to respond.
@@chaoticstylezSure, but I have the feeling the internet has definitely made things worse. Now it's so easy to find little communities of people who fire each other up. Wether its YT comment sections, FB groups, Telegram groups, Discord servers...
And especially the algorithm on this very platform: it really pushes videos on people that get a little bit more "radical" all the time. New York Times had a good podcast on this, its called "Rabbit Holy". Definitely recommended :-)
The kid from the Czech Republic was the only respectable person to come up to that podium and talk to Ben.
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They've exchanged good for evil. Being rude, loud, aggressive is seen as respectable and honourable in the worldview-religion of those students. Being gentlemanly, respectful in contrast is seen as weak and cowardly.
And it was only him who were into discussing the real serious question, the west may be dying.
He's also the only one who asked a smart question.
In Poland if a student said 'shut up' during a university debate, he would be silenced immediately and expelled the day after. We have to sign a pledge saying; 'I solemnly vow (...) to treat with respect the authorities of the university and all members of it's community, respect academic laws and customs and look after the dignity and honour of a university student'. On this ground anyone can be removed from the course for being rude, disrespectful or acting dishonourably. I think it may be the same in Czech Republic.
Apparently, Good Manners 101 is not a course they teach at Oxford.
The majority of the Oxford students are predominantly base their logic on ideology only.
Such rudeness is shocking! Now I understand why these people feel entitled to recur to violence.
Of course ZONITS don’t 😂
Ha they hate people
I do not CONDEM hamas
But with so many rude students I think they must be teaching bad manners
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Ben Shapiro ❤is very kind
what kind of education is being taught in oxford, if students dont have a respect for a guest. disgusting
Ben Shapiro deserves no respect.
@jonathonlafond3255 did that sound clever in your head 😂
Respect for a guest? They don't have respect for education itself nomore😅
@jonathonlafond3255that's because they're all idiots 😅
This weasel Shapiro won’t debate a real candidate like bassim ussef or Norman finkelstine he spews lies steal his little hat
I can't believe an Oxford student actually told his interlocutor to shut up. Coming from, supposedly, one of the best universities in the world. Absolutely shameful and disgusting behaviour.
The woke virus has infiltrated all levels of the academic institutions.
Look at the state of the current student bodies and recent (past 10-15 years) alumni as opposed to what it used to be pre 2010 and there’s your answer. Also Oxbridge has been desperately and frantically enrolling ‘diverse’ students for the past decade and a half so much so to the point where being Muslim or black - regardless of your grades and moral values - gets you an instant tick. Unfortunately both Oxford and Cambridge are being turned into ghettos for the ‘disadvantaged minorities’ who have absolutely no desire to respect or learn about the culture and heritage of Oxbridge and instead would rather smear the very foundations of both institutes with their unBritish and uncivilised rhetoric and behaviours.
I've never even heard of it lol. Ive6 been to busy getting rich
@@guzylad5Ben isn’t an Oxford student though. If you’re a student enrolled at one of - if not the most - prestigious universities in the world it’s probably best you have a clean tongue and an even cleaner nobility about you
Mind Begs the Question:
- If a Govt/University/Business
- Criminalizes Protesting an Apartheid
- Democratic or Fascist?
Britain wasn't bombing civilians 😂😂 Gotta be the joke of the year
In WWII?
😂😂😂😂
@@mountainair Yes. Read about the RAF and USAAC bombing campaigns against Germany and Japan. "Learn from History or be doomed to repeat it."
Every ally of WW2 was lol it was just part of it..thats how that war was fought.
indeed a joke😀! In WW2, the use of nuclear weapons was deemed justified for mass killing. However, in the present day, such actions are no longer acceptable, even in times of war. This represents human progress in our moral standards and the value we place on human life.
In the west, police forces are generally not allowed or encouraged to use force to kill a kidnapper if innocent people are being held hostage. but this respect for human life may not be universally upheld elsewhere, especially in Gaza and Afghan. his is an unfortunate reality. Domestically, the West has established laws and regulations to protect the rights and safety of its people, but some places in our planet, that obvious piece has long been missing.
Any position from hateful point of view is a losing one. Ben Shapiro is a great advocate for the truth.
Hahahahahahaaha your very stupid
After watching this, I feel like I could get accepted into Oxford now.
There seems to be more shady ways to get accepted now than Merit😅
Another Shapiro fan without a college degree. Color me shocked.
I just feel glad I never even tried. 😊
If you can fasten your shoelaces you can get in.
Imagine having shapiro as a 'Journalist' answering quetions from the audience at Oxford. LOOOOOOL This is absolutely clown world.
The idea that Muslims don’t colonize is laughable 😂
@@Remnant709Sure,the greeks started the revolutionary war aggainst the ottoman empire when they wanted independence. Poor ottomans 😢😢😢,why they couldn't just accept the sultan's absolute power
Lmao don't ignore the history of Muslims in South Asia. They came with sword and blood. @@Remnant709
@@thomaskennedy5728 and your source is wikipedia
there's difference between colonial approaches and conquest approach, Muslims throughout the history never colonised a country in fact what they did is conquering new states to spread the true message and the religion of god, you will say no they used sword and force, yes they did but not against civilians and not against elderly and children nor women, but only against the armies that actually fought back and the one who surrendered or accepted the religion weren't touched at all. so do some research or if not stay shut because Islam is still the religion of the true god and creator of this universe, wether it's spread or not.
@@Remnant709 cry.
What a disgrace Oxford Union turned out to be in this debate.
Why was Ben Shapiro invited in the first place? Do they need to court controversy to get attention?
@@jmdavison62 Fuck me you belong opposite Ben and no mistake. xD
But a 40 year old Ben taking on students who are way younger than him and inexperienced in public debates is a joke. These are 20 year old students, what experience and knowledge do they have? What were you doing when you were 20? Do you even have the courage to debate a popular figure like Ben publicly? Although these students were rude in some ways, it doesn't change the fact that the match up is unfair. I noticed Ben always bullies younger people in many of his videos, its almost as if its intended.
So why doesn't Ben debate someone like Muhammad Hijab (33 year old Oxford student) or others with higher experience and knowledge? For example Muhammad Hijab challenged Ben multiple times and asked for debates, however Ben always refused. In my eyes, Ben is avoiding the real threats to his arguments because he will be exposed. Ben is good at playing the game of debate, but trust me if he debates a real knowledgeable and experienced person, he will lose.
Ben's whole argument in the video is about Arabs not accepting a two state solution, well, thats assuming the Arab leaders arent British agents, which many are. There's enough evidence in Syria, Iraq, Jordan and Iran in the 19th century about the British government funding minority weak groups with weapons and assets to overthrow the country and kill anyone who stands in their way. My Syrian grandpa was among the people who got assassination attempts from the Arab British agent (AKA Hafez al-Asad) just for running a presidency campaign, so I know first hand about this. Therefore, Ben's whole argument about the Arab leaders breaks apart as many were agents of Israel. These Arab British agents are not working for the benefit of humanity, but rather for the benefit of Zionist Israel. They sold their soul to money and power.
this has got to be on of the most important videos on this conflict. it represents everything.
Quite astounded at the low level of argumentation by the students. Is this really what Oxford is producing these days?
They seek out the dumb ones...period. This is all part of the plan to destroy the west. Pretty obvious at this point.
Most students at these elite universities come from rich families who buy their children’s degrees. It’s ridiculous how many post grads are incapable of doing the job their degrees qualify them for.
My sentiment exactly!
Yep, they're all dross. And these people end up running the UK government, which tells you why the UK is a failed state that cannot organise itself, has a weak economy and zero military.
I'm in 23rd minute, exactly thinking about this!
Scary that this is the best that OXFORD University can put forward.
Truly
All these universities have gone downhill 😒
Rmb this is Oxford: one of the supposedly finest institutes of learning in the uk
the lany guy discussing the values of the west sphere was ok. It was mostly people which are clearly immigrant that had a stupid take on the situation
I'm sorry....opposite BEN SHAPIRO??? Wtf?
It's amazing how high education institutions around the world grew completely detached from reality.
Blame their Tutors that are brainwashing them.
It's amazing how Ben finds dumb people to debate so he can sound smart. I'd like to see him debate a historian or a credible journalist with an opposing view. I used to respect this guy. He's such a little snake.
to support Israel means you support colonization. It takes lil knowledge to know Ben is bought and payed for and just like candice owens, has been promoted since he’s apart of the system, the system that keeps the west secure
High education, low knowledge.
@alexpham1630 why don't you debate him then? Chicken?
Maybe they should start teaching manners in Oxford too.
I think the outright rudeness of some of these students speaks volumes. It demonstrates which side the hatred comes from.
I thought it was the Palestinians routinely chanting “death to the Jews” that showed which side is evil but okay 😂
wasnt it israelis chanting death to palestinians? @@Looney_Tombs
@@moo8902sure moo… and they dance in the streets to celebrate deaths of Palestinians too eh?
@@Looney_Tombs
I thought it was the annexing of land by settlers while being backed by Israeli soldiers.
@@moo8902Israelis will never goin to say that as Palestinians shouting " death to the jews"... literally the opposite... they will do it quitely
This is our top University and I am astounded at the amount of idiocy that is allowed to be displayed from so called students of this institution.
Yes, I don't understand why they invite this creepy right wing nut Shapiro.
tbf, to get up and think one could make an argument that Ben wont eviscerate, takes a certain level of unawareness
Of course. But that's why it looks quite cringy Shapiro debating CHILDREN@@cour2knee
@@isaacneumannthese are not children. These are college students. They are some of the best and brightest of their peers.
It is not cringy to debate ideas with young adults.
Only second in the world to Harvard …. However GW Bush went to Harvard so it don’t mean shit
Who would have thought that our universities would become so embarrassing?
What’s embarrassing?
@@HusseinSheekh Its incredibly embarrassing that these "educated" children are completely unable to have any talk or debate without immediately coming from a place of emotion. Its beyond embarrassing that these places are supposed to be places of higher learning meaning these people are supposed to have educations/intelligence above the norm hence the "higher learning" these people should be able to think objectively based off facts and separate emotions yet every one comes up with an emotionally charged argument, speaking in condescending tones and clearly only up there to "win an argument" and not have a discussion. These children using serious real world issues to show their virtue is embarrassing and disgusting, they literally keep calm open debates from happening and actively keep us from progressing as a species. These are some of the worst kind of people , yes they are an embarrassment to the United States and to the entirety of the Human Race.
@@HusseinSheekh their ignorance that's what. Might as well rewrite history according to their will
@@super_street_fighterbasic facts that Israel is committing genocide?
YES, and our so-called politicians such easy to move pawns by "hidden powers" which is reflected and cause of our Universities being in such a state as today.
"Ben its an absolute displeasure to see you standing here"
"Thank you for coming ANYWAYS" 😂
Stupid guy. His ignorance is showing
Just because these students are educated does not mean they are intelligent.
You misspelled indoctrinated. Schools no longer educate, thinking for yourself is discouraged.
There's an old saying that some people are educated beyond their intelligence. It takes a certain amount of innate intelligence to make education worthwhile.
It’s not educated vs intelligent. Intelligence is gathered by gathering education so you can become smarter about the world. It doesn’t make you intelligent. Better and further education can lead to becoming smarter. Plenty of people have mounds of education and are not necessarily intelligent.
It's similar to the Peter Principle....they are educated up to the level of their incompetence.
Or just because they are intelligent doesn't mean they are educated! 😂
I am absolutely shocked at the ignorance and lack of actual intelligence that these Oxford students are showing. Oxford, you’ve really scored an own goal here…
It's not ignorance or lack of intelligence, it's bias. That's why they can check up information on their smartphones to make accusations, but they can't take the time to check if the stuff they see aren't repurposed from other wars.
@@sigmacademy Wrong. Hamas is an illegal terrorist organization what makes this pro Hamas speech a crime.
Supporting crimes against humanity like what the women does is a crime in it self.
Those Oxford members are probably committing crimes by releasing this video. As this video has also no educational background and also no historical. It's just a straight hate speech.
He is more well trained, this will be her first try at such a high level debate
4:28 Isn't that the whole Jewish argument?
@@sigmacademy So you do or do not deny that there are thousands of people who have died in Gaza with entire apartment blocks being obliterated?
I'm genuinely ashamed to be a student here after watching this. Our country (and world more broadly) seems so divided. None of us (including myself) are informed enough to spot misinformation from reality. Being unable to fact check everything (as we have busy lives) is leading to us simply accepting false information and sticking to what we think we know. We're not singing from the same hymn sheet.
Also, saying "shut up" and using such a tone for any *guest* at the Oxford Union is appalling. The man deserves more respect than that, whether you agree with him or not.
Thank you.
Agree!!!! Completely impolite and disgusting behaviour and dress.
You forgot to mention what he said to provoke the words. Such suggestive memory
it is not your fault.. just take good care of yourself and beware of the dark-weird ideology that have possessed the whole world today...
@@MuzicMogul5 We are civilized
folks. Go back to your lands if you can’t assimilate 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
Which part of Palestine is occupied?
Answer: Israel
That’s it!
This’s exactly why this conflict is never resolved.
The way the audience laughed at 8.11 and the way the man told Shapiro to shut up tells me how far Oxford has fallen.
Daddy bought his place in this uni. He isn’t there because he is intelligent
That was so embarrasing to watch.. felt like watching a spoiled high school bully
Why because he spoke the truth
I mean, Ben could do better in not charging the convo by telling him that his points were bullshit history.
@@alichahin5053 nope. Because he was being obnoxious.
These students are so disrespectful regardless who is right or wrong…
Yah to tell someone to shut up during a debate is so disrespectful 💀
lost generation...lack of history lessons
Why should someone show respect to advocate of murderer? Would you show respect to your father's killer?
@@mahbubalammunna1355 For me Palestinian are voting for Hamas, so this means I don’t have to care for their lives right?
@@MiMi-kk4qm excellent point!
13:30 - "Britain wasn't bombing (German) civilians in WWII." They Did. I know. I'm a German. And every German child born after 1945 has been told this to this very day. Because we - German people - unleashed the unthinkable on humanity. And we will never forget that. But apparently students going to one of the most prestigious universities ever don't need to know any of this. I'm speechless.
Fair point, but Shapiro did not let her finish her question.
Well, you don’t get to finish when you say something so stupid. You have just disqualified yourself.
@@RS-tz2zn - nonsense
That was definitely a ridiculous low point in the conversation. Dresden? Hell, what about Hamburg?
The Germans have my respect for atleast they admit and teach what they did, ask the Brits. (Rotten to core no remorse)
Ben we adore you! You are the best
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@@Maps-w6j we are!!!! All Native Americans adore him.
@@Maps-w6jwe
@@godmode4790 nah. *you. You and your likes
@@rinvak2476 😂 u mean the native Americans or the people of British origins that life in the americas now who had killed the natives Americans left right and centre and deleted them from America?
The moral laziness of some of the students questioning Ben was completely shocking
the moral laziness of IDF running over an american women is completely shocking. cry more bum
of the students? Ben supports Israel...as in, an Apartheid state that has occupied Palestinians for decades, founded their state via colonial powers, and murders Palestinians so casually that Israeli leasers refer to this as "mowing the lawn." Ben is the morally lazy one. Also, he's not an intellectual. He's a moron that speaks as if he knows something, while the substance he speaks is actual nonsense
False the guy at 15:40 was keeping with him and fact checking him bringing up numerous false lies from his videos he even one video says no one cares about international law when referring to what happened with the war In 67 which was started by a preemptive strike by Israel from Israel on Egypt ben states that Egypt started this war by mobilizing its military within side its own borders which is legal
Childsplay for Shapiro! Hot air without saying anything of substance. Even the moderator dismissed him from the stage. Immediately Ben gets to the crux of his hidden intention; that is that he doesn't want a two state peaceful solution
The only moral midget I saw in this video was Mr. Shapiro. He doesn't even believe women should have bodily autonomy. As far as morals go he lives in the 19th Century. What a pathetic self-righteous man.
"The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who stand by and do nothing. "
Albert Einstein
Lefties
Except everyone thinks they're the good guy.
Take it from me - the world will be destroyed by those who pick sides without being directly affected.
This includes the left who instead of advocating its liberal ideals choose to side with an organisation which is inherently against it.
This includes countries like Japan which had no purpose to join Germany in WW2 except to gain power in the East.
You fight wars which aren't yours who will pay with humanity's future. Like the muslims living in the west, who have every bit of freedom but root for Hamas in Palestine.
@@MrInfinite43Yes. And the people on the Right who knew things were being done to influence our kids and did nothing about it. We are all guilty of this at some point
Both will contribute to it’s demise.
“Which part is occupied Palestine”
Girl: “All of Israel”
😂
Yeah she got clamped there
She also explicitly supported Hamas tho
@@MorganFuseThe United States also covertly supported Hamas ..so
@SubvertTheState Yes, we are arming both sides of the war. It's called power & leverage.
she is actually right if you actually learn some history
I've recently worked alongside Oxford graduates and never understood why they were so clueless and yet still so arrogant. Until now. What a disastrous 'debate'.
Au contraire, i think that we can learn of every debate and this debate was very revealing
you comment can apply to trash can shaprio as well
@@Yacine-gr7snAu contraire, shut up :)
@@escfxp Au contraire i won't :D
@@Yacine-gr7sn :P
Without lies, Islam dies.
Oxford was once a very impressive institution. It's high standards guaranteed intelligent minds within it's walls. Oh how Oxford has fallen.
is it though ? I only see it only as a place to talk bullshit.
The elite pretending to be of the people, being working class, I preferred it when they knew what they were, the victimisation that these kids feel, it’s beyond parody, to be that entitled, to feel that entitled, to cast judgement on others, when they have had all the advanges that their parents have given them, makes you feel kinda sick 🤢 they don’t even see it 😂
Leftist...
A very small minority of students (maybe like 1%) are part of the Oxford Union. The Union does not have any official ties to the actual university. In my time there I met very few students who were part of the Union because it is basically an expensive and pretentious club. The very serious and mature students I met at Oxford were never part of the Union, so in my opinion this private debate club is in no way an actual representation of the university body.
And it's getting worse, Harvard is getting along. Mouths concocting stupid bullshit by kids that are better at ruining stupid girl's vaginas and drinking beer. 😂😂
The arrogance posture of some of these students is mind boggling 😢
Considering their actual education - which is seriously compromised in question in this current age - stand down arrogant students!
Asking for justification of inhumane acts by IDF is not arrogance, these students were asking for justice, Mr Shapiro talked as if he is a resident of Gaza
@@kidlat7online997when Ben spoke of enlightenment philosophy- the middle East just doesn't have that. Never has. Hopefully one day. Doubtful though
@@kidlat7online997 now there is your contradiction ....the students also asked questions with a bias position.
@@lane1776 What are you talking about? The Middle East had the best of both worlds! The emergence of Islam guided people both to thinking freely and submission to God. This resulted in the Golden Age of Islam while still keeping humans within the border of moral sanity. That is so beacuse the Quran calls people to use their intellect. Philosophy, mathematics, astronomy, medicine and much more flourished. This idea of "sapere aude!" preceded Kant by more than a thousand year. The dark ages was more advanced than us when it comes to morality, yet they lacked the study of sciences. And when enlightment came, the opposite happened. The West advanced, however, they starting losing faith, consequently leading to Nietzsche's "God is dead". That resulted in the first and second WW. What do we learn from that? That the right way is the middle way. Not too cold, not too warm. Not too high, not too low. Humans must both submit to God and their intellect.
"shut up" is just such a classy, refined, and confident thing to tell someone in a debate.
That guy wasn't in the mood to have a civil debate, he just wanted stage so that he could try his best to "boo" the guest. Classy indeed. He's a future politician.
It drives me mad that these people clapped against his simply saying shut up like he just did a mic drop moment. These people are only here for gotcha moments. I dont understand how this is one of the top universities in the world.
@@SlicedBread2014most of these guests probably came with a specific mind set and no intention for it to change, so they used every last bit of the few moments where Ben was “owned” to applaud and cheer the crap out of it, even though Ben demolished their statement mere seconds later.
A smart student indeed and perhaps a future leader - good night!
I really love these conversations even if its 9 months ago but Ben Shapiro nailed all of them. He's like a very clear mirror 🪞 reflecting even the inner of their souls his last words truly makes him a great leader. From Philippines a very humble country with a very nice and hospitable people who gone through a lot studies in histories around the globe. God bless you Sir! You're like a ballistic mirror 🪞
The Czech student is just so sweet and respectful. Its fair for everyone of the students to ask direct and hard questions, just be a kind and respectful while doing so...
The Czech student was my favorite also,very respectful,he will go far. The girls were arrogant,entitled and rude. They lost whatever point they were trying to make because their attitudes. They’ll peak in college,the real world won’t cater to their over amplified sense of entitlement.
EXACTLY! THE BOY WILL BE WISE MAN IN THE FUTURE
@@BlueDingo555They were just like ben the sandpaper voice. Those girls were giving him the same energy as his ignorant, rude, short and entitled 🤭💀
as a czech, I'm proud of that guy!
Can you post here a timestamp?
Having an adult conversation with today's college kids is an exercise in futility.
Preach! 🙏🏾
ignorance + arrogance will destroy our civilisation
Ben is just as bad. Might of sent the IDF to speak instead lol
@@lukerichards85The construction is "might have" or the contracted version "might've". There is no " might of".
@@lukerichards85Ben is speaking the truth. You just don’t want to accept the truth. That’s pathetic and sad.
Defund your children from these institutions
It isnt the quality of the education obviously. It isnt the quality of the people who attend or teach there, obviously.
Obviously it is the exclusivity of the entire institution, whom you know and network with, build reputation with during your stay there, and stay connected with through fellowships and alumni orgs.
@@Rakschas666 It is the quality of the education and the quality of those who teach
too late. we have bunch of college kids protesting things...but many of them can't defend there position. "Social justice" is an example. they will use something erroneous from a politician and run with it. No research necessary. If someone challenge them, they yell on top of their lungs and run off.
Do you read a hadith of the day? Hilarious! 😂 I can't stop laughing now!
@@Rakschas666 I'm pretty sure that the quality of the education includes those who teach there. While networking is a benefit of attending an institution like this, it has nothing to do with the quality of the education.
The more I watch Ben’s debates, the more I appreciate his incredible ability to debate with reason and respect.
I was brought up to think Oxford was the ultimate educational experience. This debate has changed my mind. 😢
Oxford it's a joke university
Totally!
It's not just Oxford sadly. The cancer is everywhere.
It's a Jihadist hub now.
@@eduardtarniceriu102 HASBAR FAIL