Eylon Levy vs. Mehdi Hasan. Were Israel's Actions in the Gaza War Justified? Explore our latest newsletter insights and debater editorials. Read the full newsletter here: opentodebate.org/newsletter-were-israels-actions-in-the-gaza-war-justified/
No was is justified: Arabs (as the called "falestinian people" since the 20th century AD), caused endless of wars invading homelands in the last ~1300 yrs. Arabs, are the invaders of the middle East and large part of Africa, India, etc: attempted to conquer Europe as well, good look to Europe, again. Small Israel, small half Cyprus and Kurdistan are the ONLY lands Middle Eastern minorities have been able to release from the Islam invasion and occupation. Now war is justified, Gaza was a paradise compared to Egypt, w a min. salary 4 times higher, etc, you ca watch: 5 places to visit in Gaza or Gaza Face Maldives. Israel tried to make Gaza into a Heaven. Hamas as ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, etc turn any land into a hell... The Aldos family R.I.P. family" they could have hide in the thousands of tunnels with entrances within their houses, isn't it Mr Mehdi working/worked for the BBC , Al Jazeera Qatar - supporters of terrorist Islamic Hamas? The Taqqiyah Medhi lies against Israel are a shame to Journalism. No war is justified, please stop the wars in Yemen OMG... why Mehdi is not worried about Yemen? he is worried about the Hmas civilians. stop the wars in Syria, Iraq, Sudan, North Nigeria, Kashmir and Jammu, in Mali, stop the invasion of Russia in Europe, stop the Iran Regime.
Israel's actions are making me anti+Israel and anti-Israeli. I see only one difference between current Israelis and the N4zis... The former knows how horrific genocide is. The world has now been informed of exactly what Israel is capable of doing.
One is condemning all the crimes on both sides, while the other is only condemning one side and sees that as a justification for any crime whatsoever. This sums it up.
@@DigiDriftZoneyes, this. Israel are the terrorists constantly committing terrorism and war crimes, and the other side (the Palestinians) are just trying to live and negotiate with a clear moral compass.
@@CryptoQuantumWell if it weren't for Muslims, how the Jews would survived crusades? Remember Spanish inquisition "oh Muslims please take us with you" We are proud of our history unlike your aprtheid history.
"do you support the release of innocent Palestinian children" "I do not support the release of terrorists" Does that not tell you everything about how Eylon thinks? Children aren't innocent as long as they're Arabs to him.
He didn't say release of innocent Palestinian children he talked about the Palestinians that are in Israeli jail for committing terrorist attacks, that for some reason Mehdi called them "Palestinian hostagers" even though they weren't innocent that got kidnapped from their homes like the Israeli hostagers at 7 October. The two terrorists who have killed 7 innocent Israelis at Tel Aviv are one example of what Mehdi called "Palestinian hostagers". Mehdi is just using manipulative lies and tactics to make people prefer supporting his views
Germany occupied Poland for example or Netherlands and many more countrys. There were german soldiers on the ground everywhere and a german supervised temporary government. That was not the case in Gaza; no soldiers inside and a Hamas Government the gaza people elected. @@yusufA125
@@Pyrianderyou cannot use simple logic / argument with these people, they just repeat what they believe is true. they just like to play sympathy card, if it's other way around they won't speak.
You can’t just say anything you want even if you are the spoke person for that country. It’s not about standing at a debate show it’s a fact. It’s very easy to judge from the side
I recommend you see the debate between George Galloway and Christopher Hitchens on the Iraq invasion by the US. Galloway wiped the floor with that turncoat.
@@RobPiresPrince is correct- this ended on an impasse. Truth be told- there was no new information given and it was the same canned responses as has been told in the past and will be told in the future. As for you, clearly you are biased and far from objective.
If only the second part was true, but the gazans don't know any better since they sold themselves to Hamas, and Mehdi along with Qatar, Turkey and Iran are hardcore gaslighting gazans to believe Israel is in the wrong. What Mehdi is doing is literally a copy paste of what Putin and the Kremlin is trying to do with ukrainians in Ukraine, that Ukraine is wrong and Russia is right.
@@baboucar15 you mean during the ceasefire while gazans and west bankers were coming in for work into Israel with their work permits that suddenly became revoked after October 7th since they declared war instead of peace? There is no "before".. don't ask for a ceasefire after you break one and claim there was never one in the first place.. you're insulting everyone's intelligence with your back and forth.. "there was NEVER a ceasefire now give us another 1" 😂😂😂 they broke their word and now it means squat.. Palestinians cheapened the meaning of the word ceasefire.. Israel will NEVER trust them again
@@danspeerschneider3840 I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? Palestinian tried "peace" option way back in 1993 and we both know what happened afterwards. If you believe you can make peace with an apartheid state, good luck with that mate.
@@pandibbarman Except they were! Every human right group and UN says otherwise. I mean it takes only 2 brain cells to know it (if you control air, land and sea of a region, you are occupying it)
It's true on both sides that you're not neighbors if you keep trying to kill each other. Syria, Lebanon, Sudan... same thing. How do Syrians murdered by Hezbollah feel about "the resistance"??
I wonder where Jews came from!? Oh yes…. Canaan!!! Which is modern day Israel and Palestine. Yes they are neighbours. 😅 I thought everyone knew that! 😂
@@adamgrimsley2900 if he doesn't know he can say i don't know but he is trying to twist the question to defend it lol and he knows he was working for them when that happens ofc he knows ! let's say he doesn't know he shoudve been more honest and said i condemn that since all proof show that it was on purpose targeting of that family ! they did it mutiple times tho there are plenty of exemples
It's hard to imagine that after slavery ended of Africans taken to usa that the world didn't realise that the white man is a devil. The writings were on the wall over a century. That was proof for the black man at least. The arabs and muslims are just comprehending now. Sad
Hamas which controls all sectors in.Gaza including the hospitals and UNWRA can declare exaggerated number of casualties even if false to gaIn propaganda mileage, ask for pity and seek global support which are being used by their leaders to enrich themselves while majority live on abject proverty.
Because most of us have close ties to jewish people. They are our friends, relatives, and significant others. We want to support them. Muslim extremists have murdered US citizens as well, so we feel empathy.
@annawalsh1904 most of who?? White people? Remember whites are a minority of a race on this god's earth so going by yr (il)logic only a minority have an affinity with european jews
It's easy to win a debate when facts don't matter. I admit, he's good at what he does, but only because he lies at a rapid speed and is good at making people feel compassion over his lies. He has no proof idf targets non combatants but continues talking about a supposed family who was killed. It's very possible there was a target in the building. It is possible hamas wouldn't let them leave. It's also possible it didn't happen lol. He claims Israel targets aid workers. The idf believed hamas climbed in the trucks to steal the aid. They tried to contact the company supplying the aid to no answer and made a military decision to strike it. There is an investigation into it which proves Israel takes responsibility for potential mistakes. Does hamas take responsibility for anything they do? For stealing from their own people.. Hasan is a fear mongering liar. But he does it well.
@@robertstoolman Well they blew up a peace keeper UN tower that was watching them. There is no excuse for that. No way they could have mistaken that for an enemy target.
When Eylon Levy invaded Mehdi Hasan’s space the moderator didn’t do or say anything but when Mehdi Hasan wanted to retaliate the moderator quickly jumped to Levy’s aid just like America does for Israel
Don't understand why people are clapping, laughing and hooting in either's favor as if this is some fun speech. Do they even realize how sensitive the topic is?
It's not about the arguments being fun. It's about perception. When you hear one side having more claps, it feels like they are dominating the debate. Even if you are deeplyfocusing on the substance, you wouldn't be able to help yourself noticing that one has more claps than the other and you would feel like that side has better arguments. That's how the brain works. So no, it's not about entertainment here, it's about basic psychology. It's manipulation alright but if one side plays that game, the other has to play along even if they don't like that.
People are not cheering as if they are at a comedy show. They are cheering for a public daring articulation of disputed truths that they feel strongly about. The audience is lending their support and voice to the speaker, who is arguing for what they believe is true and right to be said.
According to mehdi Palestinian Arabs don’t think that trying to kill and injure Jews with rocks is a crime that deserves prison time - because in their minds and world it’s not a crime. Jews aren’t human beings in their eyes.
Eylon makes me sick to my stomach, literally. He's an obvious liar and propagandist and the sickest thing is that he knows he's wrong yet he does it anyway. It's extremely sickening that a human being can do that.
@@JeMarJe Ever seen The Shawshank Redemption? Guy digs a tunnel to freedom… well Gaza is a bit like that. After all they are surrounded by big concrete walls remember.
To you Arab whiners. everything is Israel's fault, this is why you remain such losers while Israel is modern, secular and successful. Israel left Gaza in 2005 with a functioning instrastructure, and thriving businesses and the people of Gaza, fed up with the corruption of the Palestinian Authority, elected Hamas, a terrorist organization to govern them - what could go wrong? Then, predictably, they neglected the instracture, expected Israel to provide it all, spent all their donations to buy and smuggle in weapons and build a tunnel system bigger than the London underground, all with their one objective in mind: destroy/harm Israel. Did Hamas attempt to do what is right and best for the people of Gaza? The question itself is laughable. After breaking the peace pact on 10/7/23 knowing that Israel would retaliate, thus making Gazans vulnerable to Israel's military, did Hamas invite Gazans into the tunnels for safety? Hell no. It wanted Israel to kill as many of them as they would so that Hamas could go on a propaganda mission and whine about civilian deaths - even thought HAMAS ALONE is responsible for every death in Gaza. Just as Hitler is responsible for the death of every civilian German during WW2. Stop whining and take responsibility
@@gabirivero1304 That name was given in the 5th Century under the Romans, the Bible and earlier documents have called that land Israel. That's what I mean
Notice how Mehdi always had sources and quotes to back up what he states (especially in his opening statement) more often than not as opposed to Eylon, who seemed to typically speak in sweeping generalities.
And moving goalposts too. Deflection, sleight-of-hand, etc. He was proud of wearing his lapel pin on hostage release event, but never once approached face to face with hostage families picketing with placards out on the streets of his office. Posturing is what he does.
It's so funny that Hasan don't want to talk about Hamas' actions. We should remember that, had Hamas not started the war, there would be no killings in Gaza.
@@waty0usay1 ICC, ICJ, GCIV, UNHCR, UN, IDF, Netanyahu, Gallant, Smotrich, Ben Gvir, Worlds Kitchen, WFP, 15 humanitarian aid agencies, 1-on-1 interviews with hostage families, Gideon Levy, former British PMs, US Congressmen, Israel Ministers, et al. Have you even watching and reading of Mehdi’s many interviews with high-ranking officials from all agencies and governments including Israel cabinet and knesset?
@ according to AFP tally (based on data from Israeli authorities) there are only two confirmed child deaths from oct 7. i’m not saying that’s okay or justified, just that what Israel is doing is MUCH MUCH MUCH worse
@@baruchdego8934OK zio supporter. Come with proof stop regurgitating fake info. There's proof of the genocide on the Palestinian people. Free palestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸
The people of Gaza are all Muslims and 99 % of them believe that killing all jews is a part of Muslim Gihad especially they believe that Israel shouldn't exist because it was a period of time a Muslim land (even it was Jewish and then christian land before) Please read history about Islam then everything will become clear especially why 80 % of terror are done by Muslims
before checking the comments ,i was afraid of people justifying the killings in gaza, blaming the palestinians instead,but it turned otherwise.......humanity is not extinct after all!
As a debate coach for 25 years, Mr. Mehdi Hasan wiped the floor with Mr. Eylon Levy Mr. Mehdi Hasan is always on point with Facts dates, and specific details Mr. Mehdi Hasan 10/ 10 Mr. Eylon Levy 5/10 No Bias 🌙🕙🕙✌✌✌🤐
I agree. I have no objective opinion on the matter, only that from an outside uninformed part it seems that there is a very big power unbalance which in my oppinion makes the fight unfair. After listening to this debate I emphasize more with Gaza than with Israel
@@jakedones2099Agreed. This is a very tense subject. And that guy has to work in the moment. I think he was incredibly fair. Eylon walking up to Mehdi whether you agree or disagree was a stunt and everyone could see that.
Mehdi Hassan dominated the debate, expertly debunking his opponent's flawed arguments. The opponent's desperate attempts to justify Israeli war crimes and genocide only highlighted their lack of credibility. Hassan's sharp reasoning and factual counterpoints left the opponent reeling. A clear victory for truth and integrity!
But where does it leave everything in the end? Israel has stooped to the level of the Muslim world which routinely expels and/or executes any non-muz. The entire region, outside of Israel, is Muslim by violence and domination. Strangely protesters don't protest any other country in the Middle East. Perhaps they see how pointless it would be.
Mehdi* didnt lie. Ur just a sore loser. Guess what, no ones falling for israHells lies anymore, yall real faces are out in the open, zionism = nazism@nsatoday
In 1881 the jews settled in the coastal plain and in the lowland central places that was uninhabited. The jews dried swamps and fight desess like malria after that many Arabs from the mountain areas and from jordan syria lebanon Egypt and even from Yemen and saudi arabia came to palestina to find work. The area were the jews settled develop very fast. In the 30s when the German jews came they bring property and money and build factory and develop the land that bring many Arabs to the coastal plain and the central lowland that was uninhabited in 1881. SO THE JEWS DON'T STOLE ARABS LAND BECAUSE WHEN THE JEWS STARTED TO SETTLED THERE THE LAND WAS UNINHABITED.
The number of population it what called western land of Israel or palestina that includes the west bank and Gaza in the beginning of the 16th century when the ottoman rule started was 123000 people that lived there most on the west bank Gaza and the mountains areas. THE COASTAL PLAIN AND THE CENTRAL LOWLAND WAS UNINHABITED. During the in the end of the 16th century the number of population was 272000 people most of then in the mountain areas and in the west bank and Gaza. IN THE 17TH CENTURY AND IN THE 18TH CENTURY THE SITUATION IN PALESTINA WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND MANY PEOPLE LEFT PALESTINA. IN 1800 THE NUMBER IN PALESTINA THAT INCLUDING THE WEST BANK AND GAZA STRIP WAS ONLY 250000 PEOPLE MOST OF THEM LIVED IN THE MOUNTIAN AREAS AND IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA. THE COASTAL PLAIN AND THE CENTRAL LOWLAND WAS EMPTY. IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE 19TH CENTURY THE POPULATION IN PALESTINA STARTED TO GROWING VERY FAST. THE AREA THE THE POPULATION MOST GROWING IS IN THE PLACES WHERE THE JEWS SETTLED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOP OF THIS AREA. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO PALESTINA FROM THE LAST QUARTER OF THE 19TH CENTURY WAS MUSLIM ARABS THAT CAME TO PALESTINA FOR BETER LIFE AND TO FIND WORK. IN 1919 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS IN PALESTINA WAS 519000 ARABS MUSLIM. IN 1922 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS WAS 760000. IN 1944 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS IN PALESTINA WAS ONE MILLION PEOPLE. SO MOST ARABS CAME TO PALESTINA FROM THE END OF THE 19TH CENTURY AND IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 20TH CENTURY. TO SAY THAT ARABS LIVED IN PALESTINA FOR GENERATIONS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. AND TO SAY THAT THE JEWS STILL ARABS LAND WHEN THEY STARTED TO SETTLED IN AREAS THAT WERE UNINHABITED IN THE COASTAL PLAIN AND IN THE LOWLAND CENTRAL, TO SAY THAT THEY STOLE ARABS LAND THAT ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE
Sorry, but you don't know the difference between logic and facts. Mehdi is a facile liar and knows very well how to employ the "gotcha" trick but it has nothing to do with facts, only style. Eylon presented facts.
John, it was not right of you to physically pull Mehdi Hasan from his opponent, while you didn’t pull Eylon Levy when he invaded Mehdi Hasan’s space. It showed clearly who and what you support 😢
@@nyakabb2472 I don't know, I think he was pretty clearly in one sides pocket here and he was really irritating several times when he tried to shame them for both having a debate. It seems like he was under the false impression debate is meant to convince people and not a rhetorical tool for shaming the wrong side out of their beliefs.
Proudly.Just look around the Middle East extremism has destroyed it. Look what Jews have created in the same area. Thank G-d for creating Israel, thank Israel for making the world safer for all
@@georgesanchez1300has it ever crossed your mind that maybe just maybe they are doing all of this because they want their rightful freedom and Not the fake one that your government gives them?
Yes, because it is shocking how ignorant people are, and how won over by Mehdi's cheap tricks. Watch him debate Douglas Murray. Not so pretty for Mehdi.
@@ultramanx9568 Simply ASSerting has no truth itself. Are you afraid to argue my points? I have facts. Mehdi trades in half truths and utter lies. Prove me wrong, dispute any of the points I made. Or give me an example of when Mehdi told an entire truth.
Mehdi does lie. He said a family car was hit by 335 bullets (from a tank). No, it was hit by .335 bullets, otherwise known as 9mm. .335/9mm is pistol and sub-machine gun ammunition. You ever hear of a tank firing pistol bullets?
I’m a marine vet based in Houston , and I stand with Israel now and forever , for our enemies are the same . Most of the these woke lefties do not understand what you are fighting against but just want to say thank you to Israel for fighting our fight and ensuring we are safe back home . God bless America and Israel 🇮🇱 🇺🇸
Before 1917, the Palestinian Territories were inhibited mainly by three groups: Christians, Jews and Muslims who were all living together in some considerable peace compared to today. 1917 Balfour declaration however gave the JEWS ONLY the right to a RELIGIOUS STATE on Palestinian Territories. And do you know what does a RELIGIOUS STATE exactly mean!!? It means for everyone belonging to that religion gets the right to a citizenship of that state even if they weren't born within that state. That's when Jews- including very baaad people, you name it- started flowing in masses from all over the world and barbarically settle and spread on Palestinian lands. Indigenous Palestinian (almost non-Jewish) communities normally started resisting and some western governments unfortunately sided with the new unfair order. By the way, Britain was occupying the Palestinian Territories back then when giving that promise to the Jews (occupant giving what they don't own). Since then, Jews have been flowing, settling and spreading, and Palestinians have been resisting. And that's how this whole misery started after Jews, Christians and Muslims were living together in some considerable peace on the Palestinian Territories.
No. But there was an effort to terminate a severe threat to the population of Israel, and to rescue the hostages from Hamas while being attacked from different fronts by Iran, Hezbollah, etc. What would you have done to achieve those tasks as the Israeli prime minister?
@@missochisso He was Benjamin Mileikowsky- before his father changed it to “Netanyahu” when his parents immigrated to Mandatory Palestine from Warsaw, Poland. So yeah, Poland for him 😂
Mehdi Hassan is an idiot like his prophet who claims he flew on a white flying donkey with the face of a woman through the seven through the seven heavens
Hahahahahahaha! Palestinians don't want peace, you MORON, they want to destory Israel, that is why Hamas BROKE the peace deal with Israel on 10/7/23. It is not only the stated mission of Hamas - the government of Gaza - to destroy Israel, but the majority of Palestinians support this goal. You are either a liar and too stupid to open your mouth.
You are disgrace to society, i cant imagine how you allow you mind to see sufferance of people of gaza. I imagine you parents are worser than you teaching you this. @Go4Broke247
@@Adam20672Израиль плачет, что их все угнетают, будучи с поддержкой самой передовой армией в мире. Представьте, если бы Газу поддерживали так же, солдатам идв не хватило бы памперсов.
@SCHEY101 Yeah, there little historical evidence to support this. The Diaspora, if that is what you are referring to, is far more attributed to the invasion of the Babylonians in 597 BCE and 586 BCE. Then later the Romans with the sacking of the 2nd Temple in 70 CE. But, in both cases, there is little in the way of historical evidence to support mass migrations during those periods thus far. Especially on the Roman side, which never had a history of mass displacement of conquered peoples. Either in the form of evidence of the migrations themselves (as mass human movements do leave evidence), or of displacement settlements you'd normally see surrounding evacuated territories during such events. It truly is just Historical acceptance of Religious Scripture that supports the Jewish peoples being "kicked out" of the region. While its far more likely the the diaspora of segments of the Jewish populous happened gradually, over the course of several hundred years. Especially under Roman and Byzantine Occupation. This issue is further complicated by the fact that there is no historical evidence to support the Exodus either. Especially given, as its estimated to have happened around the 1300s BCE (had it occurred), the levant was under occupation of the still very powerful Egyptian Empire. Which means that Moses would have spent 40 years ... moving several million people from Egypt ... to Egypt? While leaving no evidence of such mass migrations in the territory; or Egyptian records. Instead, the likelihood (especially given that Yahweh is the name of one of the Minor Canaanite Gods), the Jewish peoples came from the Canaanite populations local to the region is pretty high. Which creates a problem, given the Palestinian peoples can also trace ancestry back to that same group. Though, in both cases, there is a lot of ethnic interbreeding by this point. Even some of Israel's own founders (David Be Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi) recognized this, if their supposed study "The Land of Israel in the past and present"(1918) can be believed. "The Fellahin (Palestinian Farmers) are not the descendants of the Arab conquerors. Who captured Israel and Syria in the 7th Century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local populations. Nor did the Arabs go in for Settlement. Even in their former habitations, the Arabians did not engage in farming. They did not seek new lands in which to settle their peasantry, which hardly existed. Their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious, and material: to rule, to propagate Islam and collect taxes. Further, despite the oppression and occupation, the rural population remained unchanged". In essence, the Palestinians can find their ancestry in many ways to the populations that simply remained in those repeatedly conquered territories. Converting to both Christianity and Islam over generations. They didnt steal shit. By the very same "Blood and Soil" argument, its their land too. They just descend from those that stayed, over those that left.
@@cardbutton892 A lot of words to say there is no evidence either way. One thing is certain though, anyone who thinks that Israelis should face genocide because they are different to their neighbors needs to think again.
The Jews aren't going away ..Iran and many of their neighbors deny their right to exist ..if you want to blame someone for Israel's existence blame the U.N who decided they should have their own country after the millions of Jews were killed by Hitler
@@CecilVaepa the root cause of this war is polish refugees taking over arab land removing 4 million palestinians in neighbering countries and then iv3ding neighbering countries like lebanon. and they still have a part of syrian territory
Leftists think that the majority of Palestinians are a bunch of hippies If only they would be left to their own devices. It's bullshit. Hamas is the elected government. They share huge majority support among the Palestinians. This idea that Hamas is just 5 guys in a garage who have all the Palestinians under their thumb is ridiculous. It's not an accident that there isn't a single Arab democracy besides Israel. It isn't an accident that there is no Middle Eastern country that treats women as equals to men.
@@jeffgojailthis is a very dumb comment. Palestine hasn't had an election since 2006, when a majority of currently alive Palestinians were children. It is ridiculous to assume that Hamas represents the views of all Palestinians. As for Hamas having a lot of support from Palestine, this is also not surprising. As is the case when people are oppressed and under threat of death or displacement (as Palestinians in gaza are and have been since before Oct 7), any resistance movement, no matter their views, becomes favorable. This is the case with Hamas. This was the case with Bush post 9/11. This is the case with Bibi post oct 7. This is the case with Hezbollah after the recent Israeli strikes in Beirut. Now when it comes to there not being any thriving democracy in the middle east, much of that can be attributed to proxy wars and goverments and political instability caused by US and UK's involvement in the gulf. The only truly regressive Islamic states are Saudi Arabia and UAE, and those are allies of Israel in this conflict. Speaking of allies, Bibi has been caught sending bags of money to Hamas over the years, to bolster them and to undermine the other major political party in Palestine, which is much less militant and liberal. It is obvious that Bibi wants to undermine efforts of democracy in Palestine and continue having Hamas in power so he can continue his "righteous war".
@common_undead They had a chance to have a country that was 95% Arab and in Israel that was 55% Jewish and they turned it down because they'd rather go to war for 40 years then share the land they stole from the Jews with them. I'm so sick and tired of people like you just making excuse after excuse for these horrible people. You know what I think is racist? Not giving Palestinians any agency whatsoever. It doesn't matter if half the population didn't elect hamas. Way more than half the population supports them. In the West Bank they have 90% supports which is why a boss suspended elections there because Hamas would win and probably kill Fattah
I couldn’t agree more, it’s absolutely ridiculous that we even have to debate this. Israel are the good guys, as clear cut as that can be in a world that is not black and white. Long live Israel 🇮🇱
Bro don't get too emotional, this is the state of other cou tries too espacially in the middle east. It's bad what going on but there are a lot of bad people causing this, not just israel. Your shining beacon on justice Muslim countries opress other religions daily, kill each other and are also squatting on other people's lands.
100%, go look at the cenk uyghur debate on this channel. a month ago all of the comments were that cenk was correct. now they're all about how mosab was correct, cenk is a liar, so on and so forth. they get paid to leave comments like that to try and shift the narrative, just like they get paid to go support israel's attack dogs in the media
Israel has thousands of Palestinians in prisons without trial that are starved, beaten and raped. And has for years and years. Israel is maximising the suffering.
@@RachelJ-ki6nt says IDF soldiers and military doctors. Because as I am sure you know, the Israeli government will not let inspectors into their jails to review conditions there. When every human rights agency and international body is saying there is an issue, at what point do you think there might be an issue?
@alimos76harrington62 So u mean those hamas terr orists who paraded on streets th mutila ted, nak ed dea d bodies of ra ped teenage girls atop vehicles while shouting religious slogans were actually the 'victims' ??
The fact that people were applauding somebody justifying the killing of 16,000 children tells you exactly the state this world is in. What an absolute shame.
To be occupied is to be controlled by an opposing/enemy power. Gaza has been occupied since they were forced out of their homes at gunpoint and rounded up into a small rectangle in the corner of the desert. Whether the israelis were actually in there with guns killing people or just locking them in and controlling what/who leaves or comes in.
Lol the crowd is cheering for these guys like they are rock stars. And maybe that is encouraging? Maybe not these two....but it would be fun if we got excited for academics like we do for taylor swift or lebron james.
@@karenfink713 if you use your head, clearly without choosing which side. Hassan has all the argument based on ICC, and any other law that can apply to this motion. While The guy you choose is picky, he could just answered some parts without any data and using experience instead, even he didnt agree to release the hostages on both sides. Truth always finds its way lady, cheers.
I have watched this war very carefully since Oct 7th. It’s a joke and lies that they want a hostage deal. Every deal israel agrees to Hamas doesn’t. Let’s be clear they stole innocent civilians including elderly, women and kids. It’s insane! The joke is the world wants ceasefires and hostage deals and two states. You know who doesn’t want that? Hamas! They want one state and all Jews dead. That’s not an opinion that’s what they say. A day after they were attacked Hezbollah started with tons of rockets. Israel has been warning them for close to a year to move off the border so people can return to their homes in the north. Now they are at war with them. Actually they were always at war using the iron dome to protect them from the missiles but israel is fighting back. Let me guess that’s a war crime too?? Beepers that were held by Hezbollah was also a war crime?? Listen I can’t help stupid people who support terrorist. We can agree to disagree bc I know I am on the right side of history. It’s so clear to me and the aggressors are Hamas and Hezbollah.
@@yuuudrm Shame on Evil Hamas for hiding like frightened dogs behind civilians. This war shouldn’t even be happening and wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for Oct 7 If only they built upwards instead of hundreds of miles of tunnels below ground. Shame Hamas using poor kids to dig instead of letting them go to school and have a real education. I have family in Israel and they want peace as do their Arab neighbours. So stop spreading more hate and violence.
@@Tago238-n1n Not oppressing! Not colonizing! No stealing land and commiting genocide! Not committing worst war crimes! Not breaking international laws! Not denying people of the least basic right of atleast existing! And there are so much more Israhell's crimes are already loads and they just keep adding!
Yes it's too many intervine while Mehdi Hassan trying to get his point across. Eylon was trying his very best to said the wrong doing to make it Wright . Well in which ever way Eylon & ISREAL still have NO WRIGHT TO KLL THE PALESTINIAN. PERIOD .
What are you talking about? The moderator went Mehdi’s way multiple times, he let Mehdi get the last word and refused for Eylon (including when he was making a factual correction there’s no argument against with the ICJ “plausibility” claim, which Mehdi could have humiliated himself on since he didn’t seem to be aware of the judge’s clarification) to get it, the only time he latched onto what somebody said which he presumably deemed as a controversial to make it a question was with Eylon, etc.
Poor Mehdi, you mean. His classic Pathos-driven rhetoric full of red herrings and self righteous rants. A demagogue’s presentation: almost zero factual basis for arguments, but several clever ways to conceal agenda-based opinions. No real rational counter arguments, as he prefers mostly recitations of bait headlines and quotes that are taken out of context. No knowledge or understanding of military tactics or strategy whatsoever. Spreading exceptions to the rule on a tray, and presenting them like they are the rules, and feeding them to a passionate crowd. The list goes on and on. His skills are in rhetorical manipulation
By sending rockets..??.How many missiles/rockets does israel sent to palsestine..??None...If israel want to destroy the palastinians they have that rockets and missiles and palastine dont have a air defence. The thing is they only wnt hamas and they dont want civilian casualities. What the muslims want......Genoside of Jews..Israel cant take a chance brother promoting terrorism.
@@DoctorOzelot (Hamas is known for murdering Palestinians participating in protests against them, this is why Gaza didn't have elections since they came to power)
The face came with so much passion to Mehdi with the pin saying wear it, Mehdi as many people are ok with this, the fact when Mehdi then said can u wear it and condemn the children hostages in Isreal, he clearly refused just shows what a horrible person he is!
(1) Only an estimated and exaggerated number of casualties is stated, but no exact evidence lists each person's name, details and occupation. Therefore, Hamas should never be taken seriously until they provide details of every casualty. IDF registers 13000 soldiers and approx 19000 civilians. For urban warfare, these are the best figures you can ask for since Hamas did start this war, and they hide amongst their people. (2) Genocide cannot be used when a population is growing exponentially. Doesn't make sense. Don't be an idiot. (3) IDF has shown video footage of Israeli food trucks being hijacked and stolen by armed men (Hamas/Palestinians) (4) Isreal supplied water pipes which was used to make rockets. (5) Israel is diverse with Muslims from different religions within their society. (6) Israel proposed about 5 two-state solutions with each one better than the previous one. (7) Hamas openly says they will eradicate all non believers and even if you convert to Allah forcefully they will make your life difficult in society. (8) There is video footage of hostages brutally beaten including women and children. Every Palestinian hostage that has been released has not even a single mark on their body. (9) Massacres were openly celebrated by Palestinian people in Gaza with even children looking at naked dead bodies and celebrating with their parents. (10) Dont be gullible.
@@navrhy3075 Eylon spoke the truth. Hamas attacked Israel and Israel responded. Medhi said Israel responded too well! Israel should be nicer to the Arabs who want to destroy Israel.
@@betsymontoya9598 you sound like a child who is angry because he lost a game so he insults the other players. You don't scare us Betsy, but we know we scare people like you. I am confident people like you will see the consequences for their words and actions.
It's because he doesn't have the power to silence people when the truth is exposed. He is not at a Govt headquarters, he is on stage in front of an audience. And we see how he panicked and threw a temper tantrum when Hasan made strong points that the audience praised.
Israel is not a country.. it's a military occupation want to annihilate native people to replace them with their jew people from the whole earth to establish its own country.. exactly like what its mother America had done to the native Americans
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@@OpentoDebate their actions can never be justified. The world will look back on this like we look back on WW2
No was is justified: Arabs (as the called "falestinian people" since the 20th century AD), caused endless of wars invading homelands in the last ~1300 yrs. Arabs, are the invaders of the middle East and large part of Africa, India, etc: attempted to conquer Europe as well, good look to Europe, again.
Small Israel, small half Cyprus and Kurdistan are the ONLY lands Middle Eastern minorities have been able to release from the Islam invasion and occupation.
Now war is justified, Gaza was a paradise compared to Egypt, w a min. salary 4 times higher, etc, you ca watch: 5 places to visit in Gaza or Gaza Face Maldives. Israel tried to make Gaza into a Heaven. Hamas as ISIS, Al Qaeda, Taliban, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, etc turn any land into a hell...
The Aldos family R.I.P. family" they could have hide in the thousands of tunnels with entrances within their houses, isn't it Mr Mehdi working/worked for the BBC , Al Jazeera Qatar - supporters of terrorist Islamic Hamas? The Taqqiyah Medhi lies against Israel are a shame to Journalism.
No war is justified, please stop the wars in Yemen OMG... why Mehdi is not worried about Yemen? he is worried about the Hmas civilians.
stop the wars in Syria, Iraq, Sudan, North Nigeria, Kashmir and Jammu, in Mali, stop the invasion of Russia in Europe, stop the Iran Regime.
@@TheNpcNoob WW2 was won by a comprehensive victory
@@FreeSpeechThought The atrocities were committed by only one group just as is happening now
Israel's actions are making me anti+Israel and anti-Israeli. I see only one difference between current Israelis and the N4zis... The former knows how horrific genocide is.
The world has now been informed of exactly what Israel is capable of doing.
One is condemning all the crimes on both sides, while the other is only condemning one side and sees that as a justification for any crime whatsoever. This sums it up.
One is equivocating defending yourself from terrorists and being terrorists, the other has a clear moral compass.
Condemning and supporting the ideology equals to bieng one of them
@@DigiDriftZoneyes, this. Israel are the terrorists constantly committing terrorism and war crimes, and the other side (the Palestinians) are just trying to live and negotiate with a clear moral compass.
Well said,you summarised it beautifully.
@@DigiDriftZoneI wouldn't call it a moral compass…. More of anal compass well self retended!!!😂
The fact that this question was even a debate tells a lot about our society
Yeah, just like the question "is Islam religion of peace" :D
@CryptoQuantum cry harder buddy 😂
@@CryptoQuantumWell if it weren't for Muslims, how the Jews would survived crusades? Remember Spanish inquisition "oh Muslims please take us with you" We are proud of our history unlike your aprtheid history.
Next up they’ll be debating if the Holocaust was bad.
@@syanaris2045 this.
"do you support the release of innocent Palestinian children"
"I do not support the release of terrorists"
Does that not tell you everything about how Eylon thinks? Children aren't innocent as long as they're Arabs to him.
Exactly u dont need to be a muslim to be decent human being
Release where? To which country?
He didn't say release of innocent Palestinian children he talked about the Palestinians that are in Israeli jail for committing terrorist attacks, that for some reason Mehdi called them "Palestinian hostagers" even though they weren't innocent that got kidnapped from their homes like the Israeli hostagers at 7 October. The two terrorists who have killed 7 innocent Israelis at Tel Aviv are one example of what Mehdi called "Palestinian hostagers". Mehdi is just using manipulative lies and tactics to make people prefer supporting his views
You are the terrorist one @@sylviaberman1969
@@sylviaberman1969bullsh1t
“They not your neighbors, they are people you occupied”
That’s a wrap
But not correct. Gaza was, in fact, not occupied for many years before 7.October
@@Pyriander when your in concentration camp in your own country what do you call that occupation or not occupation?
Germany occupied Poland for example or Netherlands and many more countrys. There were german soldiers on the ground everywhere and a german supervised temporary government. That was not the case in Gaza; no soldiers inside and a Hamas Government the gaza people elected.
@@yusufA125
@@yusufA125When you make up things that aren't factual, what's that called? Lie or lying?
@@Pyrianderyou cannot use simple logic / argument with these people, they just repeat what they believe is true. they just like to play sympathy card, if it's other way around they won't speak.
“We don’t owe you any justification”
MAN IS LITERALLY STANDING IN A DEBATE SHOW 😭😭😭
He's not debating for the Israeli state but as an individual. It's most likely that he doesn't know.
@@designeedesigner6182he was literally a spokesperson to the israeli government.
@@israloni no it's not .. isis was created by CIA and Isnotreal .. everyone knows that you are a bunch of liars and cowards
He’s low IQ
You can’t just say anything you want even if you are the spoke person for that country. It’s not about standing at a debate show it’s a fact. It’s very easy to judge from the side
This debate explains why Hitler was never seen as an evil person by his followers until very late.
I'm definitely rethinking history
What do you mean, can you elaborate I’m genuinely curious?
@@maaxeeyBdude 😂 are you serious 🧐 I start thinking that you are from Germany right 😢 I feel so sad for you
@@brunomiguel1540 no you spinner, genuinely asking what he means you flop, fuck outta here
Absolutely
"Dont you ever lecture me on hostages when your government has killed more hostages than it has rescued"-Mehdi Hasan
Go find out what is the true meaning of hostage. Wat is prisoner.
Wow. He is sharp 😊
@@devilback8871 that was a legit argument tho😂
But but khamas
@@devilback8871
Enlighten us then.
I’ve never seen a debate where one side destroyed & demolished the other side. I guess that what happens when you try to defend the undefendable
I recommend you see the debate between George Galloway and Christopher Hitchens on the Iraq invasion by the US. Galloway wiped the floor with that turncoat.
This ended on an impasse. No winning side at all.
@@PrinceM-u7cWe all can watch the video. mehdi clearly debunked all sorts of hasbaras here.
@@RobPiresPrince is correct- this ended on an impasse. Truth be told- there was no new information given and it was the same canned responses as has been told in the past and will be told in the future. As for you, clearly you are biased and far from objective.
“If you wanna convince the people of Gaza that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terrorism upon them” wow
If only the second part was true, but the gazans don't know any better since they sold themselves to Hamas, and Mehdi along with Qatar, Turkey and Iran are hardcore gaslighting gazans to believe Israel is in the wrong.
What Mehdi is doing is literally a copy paste of what Putin and the Kremlin is trying to do with ukrainians in Ukraine, that Ukraine is wrong and Russia is right.
With all due respect. Common mistake, you're lumping Hamas and Gaza. @@sharonsirota5355
@@sharonsirota5355 Shut up uneducated subhuman.
@@sharonsirota5355and all those years before oct. 7th?😂
@@baboucar15 you mean during the ceasefire while gazans and west bankers were coming in for work into Israel with their work permits that suddenly became revoked after October 7th since they declared war instead of peace? There is no "before".. don't ask for a ceasefire after you break one and claim there was never one in the first place.. you're insulting everyone's intelligence with your back and forth.. "there was NEVER a ceasefire now give us another 1" 😂😂😂 they broke their word and now it means squat.. Palestinians cheapened the meaning of the word ceasefire.. Israel will NEVER trust them again
One Was Fired For Being A Beacon Of Truth, One Was Fired For Being A Bad Liar, Pick Your Victor.
The guy who believes in flying horses is pretty sharp
@@billyb6001the guys who believes in 3 in 1 is even sharper
@@BTmaterialsCompany absurd beliefs get perplexed to kill one another
@@BTmaterialsCompany im pretty sure he is a Jew whose ancestors were thrown out of Iraq
Yep, Eylon was fired for challenging David Cameron, Mehdi works for the Russia Today equivalent of the Middle East.
"Gaza could have been a new Singapore"
2 minutes later:
"Well, we weren't gonna let them build an international airport"
Clearly you didn't listsn 😂
Not under Hamas, no way!!
@@kimberlywallace6148 you’re probably too stupid to get the point
Nice delusional selective listening - please go back to school
why not?
They aren't occupied,right? @@kimberlywallace6148
''They are not your neighbours, they are the people you occupied''
End of the discussion...
Unfortunately by saying that you prevent peace to come forth … Discussion mist go on always
Debate means end of fighting…
@@danspeerschneider3840
I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? Palestinian tried "peace" option way back in 1993 and we both know what happened afterwards.
If you believe you can make peace with an apartheid state, good luck with that mate.
Israel was not occupying them since 2005 but it seems they didn't like it and wanted Israel to occupy them again
@@pandibbarman
Except they were! Every human right group and UN says otherwise. I mean it takes only 2 brain cells to know it (if you control air, land and sea of a region, you are occupying it)
@@NotHunterYTPalestine doesn’t exist. Never has and never will. Also, it’s not apartheid. Guess what country is right next to Gaza
"They are not your neighbor they are the people you occupied"
Yes Arabs should stop occupying Jewish land
It's true on both sides that you're not neighbors if you keep trying to kill each other. Syria, Lebanon, Sudan... same thing. How do Syrians murdered by Hezbollah feel about "the resistance"??
Occupied?
That's not how world see
@@Lelapeace IT IS HOW THE WORLD SEE IT
ISRAELI OCCUPATION OF PALESTINAIN LEBANON AND SYRIAN TERRITORIES
I wonder where Jews came from!? Oh yes…. Canaan!!! Which is modern day Israel and Palestine.
Yes they are neighbours. 😅 I thought everyone knew that! 😂
18:03:
Mehdi: "Why did the IDF kill this innocent family?"
Eylon: "WE DON'T OWE YOU AN EXPLANATION"
If you can't explain it, you can't justify it.
he is a joke xd like the rest of them
Why hamas kill kids in the desert ?
Maybe he doesn't know
@@NaydenBenchev send us vid plz lets us see then we will know why ?
@@adamgrimsley2900 if he doesn't know he can say i don't know but he is trying to twist the question to defend it lol and he knows he was working for them when that happens ofc he knows ! let's say he doesn't know he shoudve been more honest and said i condemn that since all proof show that it was on purpose targeting of that family ! they did it mutiple times tho there are plenty of exemples
It's hard to imagine that after so many innocent people have died, Westerners are still discussing this obvious issue.
It's hard to imagine that after slavery ended of Africans taken to usa that the world didn't realise that the white man is a devil. The writings were on the wall over a century. That was proof for the black man at least. The arabs and muslims are just comprehending now. Sad
propaganda is a hell of a thing
Hamas which controls all sectors in.Gaza including the hospitals and UNWRA can declare exaggerated number of casualties even if false to gaIn propaganda mileage, ask for pity and seek global support which are being used by their leaders to enrich themselves while majority live on abject proverty.
Because most of us have close ties to jewish people. They are our friends, relatives, and significant others. We want to support them. Muslim extremists have murdered US citizens as well, so we feel empathy.
@annawalsh1904 most of who?? White people? Remember whites are a minority of a race on this god's earth so going by yr (il)logic only a minority have an affinity with european jews
Mehdi is the GOAT of debates the guy is unbeatable speaks nothing but facts. Absolutely annihilated the war criminal. Take bow mehdi youre a legend
It's easy to win a debate when facts don't matter. I admit, he's good at what he does, but only because he lies at a rapid speed and is good at making people feel compassion over his lies. He has no proof idf targets non combatants but continues talking about a supposed family who was killed. It's very possible there was a target in the building. It is possible hamas wouldn't let them leave. It's also possible it didn't happen lol. He claims Israel targets aid workers. The idf believed hamas climbed in the trucks to steal the aid. They tried to contact the company supplying the aid to no answer and made a military decision to strike it. There is an investigation into it which proves Israel takes responsibility for potential mistakes. Does hamas take responsibility for anything they do? For stealing from their own people.. Hasan is a fear mongering liar. But he does it well.
Your point being? Apart from defending the hypocrite and liar Levin ?
@@robertstoolman Well they blew up a peace keeper UN tower that was watching them. There is no excuse for that. No way they could have mistaken that for an enemy target.
@@robertstoolman you cant win a debate if you are a liar and dont have facts to support you.
I always say this about mehdi. I do believe he is the best public debater of my generation. Im so glad he is a moral person as well.
When Eylon Levy invaded Mehdi Hasan’s space the moderator didn’t do or say anything but when Mehdi Hasan wanted to retaliate the moderator quickly jumped to Levy’s aid just like America does for Israel
exactly. this was 2 v 1
Literally
@@jasonruggles4622 EXACTLY, the truth can never be buried for long
Viva Israel! 🇮🇱
@@leojanuszewski1019i see no one liking your reply 😂 if there is one or two after this, i believe its your other account trying to entertain yourself.
I’m glad the cheer & standing ovation for Mehdi is louder and longer
@@leegrainger4520 People who sum this debate up as being in the spectrum of "Right" and "Left" obviously have American political brainrot.
@@leegrainger4520 ew rabid z10 spotted
@@leegrainger4520 lol, soar loser.
Just shows how the majority of people are braindead 😂
Dogs always loved and cherish by cowards lion is always feared
Do you support the release of Palestinian children?
Tone deaf silence from Eylon
It's not about these children being Palestinians but being T3RR0RIST
He actually said they’re terrorists
They are terrorists
@@azik7571 Because they are terrorists, radicalized and brainwashed since their childhood into hating Jews.
That's disgusting. I don't know what kind of a person who sees the disposal of children, any justified. Pure evil.
Don't understand why people are clapping, laughing and hooting in either's favor as if this is some fun speech. Do they even realize how sensitive the topic is?
It's not about the arguments being fun. It's about perception. When you hear one side having more claps, it feels like they are dominating the debate.
Even if you are deeplyfocusing on the substance, you wouldn't be able to help yourself noticing that one has more claps than the other and you would feel like that side has better arguments. That's how the brain works. So no, it's not about entertainment here, it's about basic psychology.
It's manipulation alright but if one side plays that game, the other has to play along even if they don't like that.
It’s not about it being fun, they’re trying to out clap the other people. Kind of a psychological thing
People are not cheering as if they are at a comedy show. They are cheering for a public daring articulation of disputed truths that they feel strongly about. The audience is lending their support and voice to the speaker, who is arguing for what they believe is true and right to be said.
I thought the same! Disgusting. Peopled were unalived, children, the elderly and women!
"Israel owes no explanation," is such a WILD thing to say when you're there for the express purpose of justifying their actions.
It's because Eylon has NO justifiable explanation. So he refused to give one.
Why does he have to justify Israel's actions. Israel has done nothing wrong!
@@GretsGarbo-h9m lol
@@GretsGarbo-h9m😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@GretsGarbo-h9m Wow so funny
He could not respond on freeing the Palestinian children in prison, that says it all
17 y.o. imprisoned combatans are not children.
According to mehdi Palestinian Arabs don’t think that trying to kill and injure Jews with rocks is a crime that deserves prison time - because in their minds and world it’s not a crime. Jews aren’t human beings in their eyes.
Wonder if mehdi thinks all the Americans under 18 who are in prison are innocent as well….
Israel free the children so they can murder them. Your zionists are the most evil people ever
@@RachelJ-ki6ntdoes the Americans in prison do they get raped
Mehdi Hassan became a much bigger icon after leaving MSNB. And he can now so comfortably speak for what he stands for..
MSNBC was only holding him back .. he's awesome
I despise Mehdi but in fairness he was already a household name long before ESPN. Used to host Oxford union debates
Must be what it's like to be free.
They probably hired to silence him in the first place... But it didn't work 😂😂
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Eylon makes me sick to my stomach, literally. He's an obvious liar and propagandist and the sickest thing is that he knows he's wrong yet he does it anyway. It's extremely sickening that a human being can do that.
“I’m sorry, you’re a sociopath” went so hard
Fr
That’s a correct word
That's how criminals talk!
@@Mo-wu2fc yeah according to your dictionary. fucking sociopath
Mic drop
People should stop clapping like idiots. It trivializes the human tragedy and murder part.
absolutely. it was sad to see and very tone deaf on their part
Moderator should get rid of audience or at least to only clap in support
I felt like the long clapping was redundant. But it’s like a sport.
Not to mention the laughing at certain disses from either of them. Shameful.
couldn't agree more
Welldone Mehdi, we love your humanity and honesty ❤️😊
Mehdi has definitely nailed Eylon with the facts!! Great debater and a winner!
False, reasonable people hear all the lies.
reasonable people or sociopaths? @@suzannegriffiths4795
Hassan is a full on terror apologist
Mehdi is the Master of Manipulation....🤡👹🤡 Am Israel Chai 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🎗🎗🎗
@@AbbaYah-so6gx No arguments available, right?
New York reporter didn’t see this was coming poor man 😂
@@ismailkadir9 Zio are scared. Their synag0gue of Sataan will fall soon.
😂😂
Looooooooooll
Enough you jhadi
No atrocity is beyond religion of peace
"They are not your Neighbors, They are the PEOPLE YOU OCCUPY' That sums up the issue!
Except it’s fully untrue so there’s that
People? Martyrs ages 0 -100
Victims who spends millions in building tunnels for war instead of the betterment of their people
@@JeMarJe Ever seen The Shawshank Redemption? Guy digs a tunnel to freedom… well Gaza is a bit like that. After all they are surrounded by big concrete walls remember.
Which came first, the declaratin of 5 Arab nations in 1948 to genocide Israel or the 'occupation"?
You want to convince people of GAZA that terrorism is dead end, then stop inflicting terrorism on them. 45:55
"He is trying to occupy the debate" couldn't describe it better.
To you Arab whiners. everything is Israel's fault, this is why you remain such losers while Israel is modern, secular and successful.
Israel left Gaza in 2005 with a functioning instrastructure, and thriving businesses and the people of Gaza, fed up with the corruption of the Palestinian Authority, elected Hamas, a terrorist organization to govern them - what could go wrong? Then, predictably, they neglected the instracture, expected Israel to provide it all, spent all their donations to buy and smuggle in weapons and build a tunnel system bigger than the London underground, all with their one objective in mind: destroy/harm Israel. Did Hamas attempt to do what is right and best for the people of Gaza? The question itself is laughable. After breaking the peace pact on 10/7/23 knowing that Israel would retaliate, thus making Gazans vulnerable to Israel's military, did Hamas invite Gazans into the tunnels for safety? Hell no. It wanted Israel to kill as many of them as they would so that Hamas could go on a propaganda mission and whine about civilian deaths - even thought HAMAS ALONE is responsible for every death in Gaza. Just as Hitler is responsible for the death of every civilian German during WW2.
Stop whining and take responsibility
You and your ancestors have and are occupying land that belonged to someone else, the whole occupation debated is logically flawed.
😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@SigmaLooksmaxxr the land is called historic Palestine. HISTORIC. what do you mean?
@@gabirivero1304 That name was given in the 5th Century under the Romans, the Bible and earlier documents have called that land Israel. That's what I mean
"Eylon they are not your neighbors, they are people you occupied." Love it ❤
Correction *"Occupy..." STILL under occupation
They are not occupied. How? They can work at Israel
@@oztshuva5053 sorry but that's, unfortunately, not how it works
Occupation has a definition. It is not lies apon lies.
and eylon can never shut up
Notice how Mehdi always had sources and quotes to back up what he states (especially in his opening statement) more often than not as opposed to Eylon, who seemed to typically speak in sweeping generalities.
And moving goalposts too. Deflection, sleight-of-hand, etc.
He was proud of wearing his lapel pin on hostage release event, but never once approached face to face with hostage families picketing with placards out on the streets of his office.
Posturing is what he does.
Which sources, Al Jazeera? lol 😂
It's so funny that Hasan don't want to talk about Hamas' actions. We should remember that, had Hamas not started the war, there would be no killings in Gaza.
His source also come from Hamas (that go to internationals Health groups), Why should we believe him?
@@waty0usay1 ICC, ICJ, GCIV, UNHCR, UN, IDF, Netanyahu, Gallant, Smotrich, Ben Gvir, Worlds Kitchen, WFP, 15 humanitarian aid agencies, 1-on-1 interviews with hostage families, Gideon Levy, former British PMs, US Congressmen, Israel Ministers, et al.
Have you even watching and reading of Mehdi’s many interviews with high-ranking officials from all agencies and governments including Israel cabinet and knesset?
there is never a justification for killing a child. eylon lost before the debate even started
Hamas Killed more than 40 children in Oct 7.
You lost your debate.
@ according to AFP tally (based on data from Israeli authorities) there are only two confirmed child deaths from oct 7. i’m not saying that’s okay or justified, just that what Israel is doing is MUCH MUCH MUCH worse
@@baruchdego8934OK zio supporter. Come with proof stop regurgitating fake info. There's proof of the genocide on the Palestinian people. Free palestine 🇵🇸 🇵🇸
best quote, “If you wanna convince the people of Gaza that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terrorism upon them” wow
The people of Gaza are all Muslims and 99 % of them believe that killing all jews is a part of Muslim Gihad especially they believe that Israel shouldn't exist because it was a period of time a Muslim land (even it was Jewish and then christian land before)
Please read history about Islam then everything will become clear especially why 80 % of terror are done by Muslims
tell that to Hamas
If you can't distinguish between war and terrorism, then you can't possibly understand a debate about the justifications for one (and not the other).
@@vs6911-1Hamas is a symptom, not the cause. Isreal is.
@@TheNpcNoob Hamas are terrorists
before checking the comments ,i was afraid of people justifying the killings in gaza, blaming the palestinians instead,but it turned otherwise.......humanity is not extinct after all!
Always Muslims are like it. Victim card players don't want to see the light
❤
i’m deeply grateful too 🙏🏼❤️
Had same feeling
As a debate coach for 25 years, Mr. Mehdi Hasan wiped the floor with Mr. Eylon Levy Mr. Mehdi Hasan is always on point with Facts dates, and specific details
Mr. Mehdi Hasan 10/ 10
Mr. Eylon Levy 5/10
No Bias
🌙🕙🕙✌✌✌🤐
I agree. I have no objective opinion on the matter, only that from an outside uninformed part it seems that there is a very big power unbalance which in my oppinion makes the fight unfair. After listening to this debate I emphasize more with Gaza than with Israel
With lots of lies ,clap Islam liars grab him or he himself is liar
@@alienq360 I don't know who are you talking about? Please explain
@@TomEl-1975in simple words Mehdi is liar
@@alienq360 how so? Is it a Bias or do you have other information that no one knows but you?
Hamas` leader is dead, so then why is the war still going on?
Exactly
Oh sure, leave the hostages to their fates I guess. What a dumb question
@@theeldersimp9847 Do you really believe it's been about Hamas or the hostages?
Deir Yassin Massacre (1948)
Qibya Massacre (1953)
Rafah Massacre (1956)
Khan Yunis Massacre (1956)
Al-Aqsa Massacre (1990)
Ibrahimi Mosque Massacre (1994)
Jenin REFUGEE Camp Massacre (2002)
Gaza Killings (2008-2009)
Ibrahim al Maqadma Mosque Missile Strike (2009)
Gaza Killings (2012)
Shujaiya Massacre (2014)
Great March of Return Massacre (2018-2019)
Al-Asqa Attack (2021)
Never saw a man beat up another man using only words. Mehdi on fire!
You the biggest bias ever 😂😂
@@physicFitness stay asleep
@@physicFitnessand you are just mad cuz Elon got roasted! You also biased cuz you wanted Elon to win the debate lol
@@physicFitness eylon, comment from ur real account
@@physicFitnessthe truth hurts, and it’s delightful to see you goblins recoil at it
Moderator allows Israel guy to approach mehdi, but mehdi can’t talk to him a little more closely without the other guy needing security.
Seems reasonable, Muslims tend to be pretty explosive
come on, the moderator did his best to try and be fair.
Because medhi is a terrorist.
Assrael always pretend to be victim
@@jakedones2099Agreed. This is a very tense subject. And that guy has to work in the moment. I think he was incredibly fair. Eylon walking up to Mehdi whether you agree or disagree was a stunt and everyone could see that.
There is no justification of killing children's and innocent people .absolutely no justification.
October7th. What did Hamas do, right ? What did those children do to Palestine?
When someone fires rockets then hides among children the blame's on them
@@Adam20672ah yes October 7th, but Israel has been shooting kids trying to go to school in the West Bank. If you don’t sit your ass down Adam
@@Adam20672Bro, he did not call Hamas innocent.
@@Adam20672no it wasn’t right. So back to the topic at hand you bot
"We don't control the border in Egypt", well, that's a confession.
New York Post reporter got made to look really bad twice in this.
did you see how he kicked and screamed as if he's never been told no, it was hilarious 😂
@@roses.9181 He started to tussle with the person with the mic after his question was rejected as well.
murdoch is worse than qatari pimp
his eyes were popping out of his head 😂
Yeah and at the end of the debate he couldn't wait to get out of there😂😂😂
Mehdi Hassan dominated the debate, expertly debunking his opponent's flawed arguments. The opponent's desperate attempts to justify Israeli war crimes and genocide only highlighted their lack of credibility. Hassan's sharp reasoning and factual counterpoints left the opponent reeling. A clear victory for truth and integrity!
...cuz Mehdi can see beyond his own ass.
When verified facts go up against emotive propaganda 👌😂
@@SaifiiViews by quality, not quantity..Eyloon certainly had more time and words.
But where does it leave everything in the end? Israel has stooped to the level of the Muslim world which routinely expels and/or executes any non-muz. The entire region, outside of Israel, is Muslim by violence and domination. Strangely protesters don't protest any other country in the Middle East. Perhaps they see how pointless it would be.
Medhi ate and left no crumbs. How can you even support this notion?
Medhi lied. 😂😂
Mehdi* didnt lie. Ur just a sore loser. Guess what, no ones falling for israHells lies anymore, yall real faces are out in the open, zionism = nazism@nsatoday
@@nsatodayWhen? Be specific.
@@nsatodayYour Scummy Husband Levy is a chronic liar! Even Satanyahu fired that retard 🤣🤣
@@dmatt339 ICC and ICJ. A member of the court went on TV to debunk it. That’s just for starters.
They are not your neighbours, they are the owners of the land that you occupied
So? We germans owned once half of poland, but we lost the war and got over it. This whining ans complaining is disgusting.
In 1881 the jews settled in the coastal plain and in the lowland central places that was uninhabited. The jews dried swamps and fight desess like malria after that many Arabs from the mountain areas and from jordan syria lebanon Egypt and even from Yemen and saudi arabia came to palestina to find work. The area were the jews settled develop very fast. In the 30s when the German jews came they bring property and money and build factory and develop the land that bring many Arabs to the coastal plain and the central lowland that was uninhabited in 1881. SO THE JEWS DON'T STOLE ARABS LAND BECAUSE WHEN THE JEWS STARTED TO SETTLED THERE THE LAND WAS UNINHABITED.
The number of population it what called western land of Israel or palestina that includes the west bank and Gaza in the beginning of the 16th century when the ottoman rule started was 123000 people that lived there most on the west bank Gaza and the mountains areas. THE COASTAL PLAIN AND THE CENTRAL LOWLAND WAS UNINHABITED. During the in the end of the 16th century the number of population was 272000 people most of then in the mountain areas and in the west bank and Gaza. IN THE 17TH CENTURY AND IN THE 18TH CENTURY THE SITUATION IN PALESTINA WAS VERY DIFFICULT AND MANY PEOPLE LEFT PALESTINA. IN 1800 THE NUMBER IN PALESTINA THAT INCLUDING THE WEST BANK AND GAZA STRIP WAS ONLY 250000 PEOPLE MOST OF THEM LIVED IN THE MOUNTIAN AREAS AND IN THE WEST BANK AND GAZA. THE COASTAL PLAIN AND THE CENTRAL LOWLAND WAS EMPTY. IN THE LAST QUARTER OF THE 19TH CENTURY THE POPULATION IN PALESTINA STARTED TO GROWING VERY FAST. THE AREA THE THE POPULATION MOST GROWING IS IN THE PLACES WHERE THE JEWS SETTLED BECAUSE OF THE DEVELOP OF THIS AREA. MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TO PALESTINA FROM THE LAST QUARTER OF THE 19TH CENTURY WAS MUSLIM ARABS THAT CAME TO PALESTINA FOR BETER LIFE AND TO FIND WORK. IN 1919 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS IN PALESTINA WAS 519000 ARABS MUSLIM. IN 1922 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS WAS 760000. IN 1944 THE NUMBER OF MUSLIMS ARABS IN PALESTINA WAS ONE MILLION PEOPLE. SO MOST ARABS CAME TO PALESTINA FROM THE END OF THE 19TH CENTURY AND IN THE BEGINNING OF THE 20TH CENTURY. TO SAY THAT ARABS LIVED IN PALESTINA FOR GENERATIONS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. AND TO SAY THAT THE JEWS STILL ARABS LAND WHEN THEY STARTED TO SETTLED IN AREAS THAT WERE UNINHABITED IN THE COASTAL PLAIN AND IN THE LOWLAND CENTRAL, TO SAY THAT THEY STOLE ARABS LAND THAT ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE
@@Pyrianderthen you germans should have given them israelis lands. Palestine had nothing to do with your crimes.
Eylon reminds me of when you do debates in school and you are given a topic that goes against logic but you still have to debate for it
True ) axaxaxax i was such boy once )
It's not about logic for them, it's fueled by anger/fear/hate
HAHAHAHAHAHHA --- TRUE.
Sorry, but you don't know the difference between logic and facts. Mehdi is a facile liar and knows very well how to employ the "gotcha" trick but it has nothing to do with facts, only style. Eylon presented facts.
@@canteluna Eylon presented no facts. Did you listen to the debate?
When did Medhi lie? Please point it out and provide a source.
John, it was not right of you to physically pull Mehdi Hasan from his opponent, while you didn’t pull Eylon Levy when he invaded Mehdi Hasan’s space. It showed clearly who and what you support 😢
I do agree with u but overall the guy did a great job of calling both of them out when they tried word salad
You are right. In my Western European country Arabs are the aggressive ones. But Hassan is not Arab.
@@nyakabb2472 I don't know, I think he was pretty clearly in one sides pocket here and he was really irritating several times when he tried to shame them for both having a debate. It seems like he was under the false impression debate is meant to convince people and not a rhetorical tool for shaming the wrong side out of their beliefs.
I think he was trying to ensure he could not be accused of being unfair as there's no need for debate, what Israel is doing is purely evil!
And he should support Israel, not the terrorist supporting anti semite Medi Hassan.
NewYork Post reporter got humiliated twice
J York post
@@NG-cf7zh They are scared. Their synag0gue of Sataan will fall soon.
@@NG-cf7zh Oh how clever! *Rolls eyes
@@SoaringTrumpet just pointing it out for anyone who was unaware.
@NG-cf7zh thanks for going mask off. I love when you do, cuz some of yall still pretend you're not just straight up jew haters
It's really funny that the moderator is expecting a civilized and respectful debate between a genocide enabler and someone who opposes genocide.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Watching Mehdi Hassan debate is like watching Mike Tyson box a lightweight
I agree, except for that one time with Richard Dawkins
Not to be caddy, but I'd call it a thriller--in-Manilla.
Dawkins is not rational @@ChairPacer
You are damn correct my man
Levy actually has a point. Mehdi is a great debater but he can't fully break levy's argument
Controlling air, land, water, electricity and citizen registration is what Israelis call freedom for Palestinians.. 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Nothing else needs to be said! Mic drop!!
Well, Palestine government should invest on their people’s need… but they choose rockets and tunnels
Proudly.Just look around the Middle East extremism has destroyed it. Look what Jews have created in the same area. Thank G-d for creating Israel, thank Israel for making the world safer for all
And look what they did with it! Imagine what they would do with complete freedom!
@@georgesanchez1300has it ever crossed your mind that maybe just maybe they are doing all of this because they want their rightful freedom and
Not the fake one that your government gives them?
The look on Levi’s face when the audience gave Medi a standing ovation and thunderous applause was funny. He looked a little shocked 😂😂
because people has enough of their manipulation . They think that we are stupid
well noticed
Yes, because it is shocking how ignorant people are, and how won over by Mehdi's cheap tricks. Watch him debate Douglas Murray. Not so pretty for Mehdi.
@@cantelunaIts simple because Medi telling the truth. And the truth hurts for the evil people, like you and Levi
@@ultramanx9568 Simply ASSerting has no truth itself. Are you afraid to argue my points? I have facts. Mehdi trades in half truths and utter lies. Prove me wrong, dispute any of the points I made. Or give me an example of when Mehdi told an entire truth.
Let’s give it to the host for asking great questions
Yup, I was impressed by him, too.
The reason why mehdi wins this debate is because he doesn't lie
Mehdi does lie. He said a family car was hit by 335 bullets (from a tank). No, it was hit by .335 bullets, otherwise known as 9mm. .335/9mm is pistol and sub-machine gun ammunition. You ever hear of a tank firing pistol bullets?
@@Imw101why should we believe you or your master Israhell
@@Imw101oh and by the way he said snipers
Arabs lie every second .it's on DNA like Muhamad learn you in Houdieba
Wow, Mehdi doesnt lie?! What a joke you people really are.
“I regret taking that question”, got me rolling on the floor 🤣
I’m a marine vet based in Houston , and I stand with Israel now and forever , for our enemies are the same . Most of the these woke lefties do not understand what you are fighting against but just want to say thank you to Israel for fighting our fight and ensuring we are safe back home . God bless America and Israel 🇮🇱 🇺🇸
It actually made me question the moderator. Why regret, because the journalist was disgraced?
Before 1917, the Palestinian Territories were inhibited mainly by three groups: Christians, Jews and Muslims who were all living together in some considerable peace compared to today. 1917 Balfour declaration however gave the JEWS ONLY the right to a RELIGIOUS STATE on Palestinian Territories. And do you know what does a RELIGIOUS STATE exactly mean!!? It means for everyone belonging to that religion gets the right to a citizenship of that state even if they weren't born within that state. That's when Jews- including very baaad people, you name it- started flowing in masses from all over the world and barbarically settle and spread on Palestinian lands. Indigenous Palestinian (almost non-Jewish) communities normally started resisting and some western governments unfortunately sided with the new unfair order. By the way, Britain was occupying the Palestinian Territories back then when giving that promise to the Jews (occupant giving what they don't own). Since then, Jews have been flowing, settling and spreading, and Palestinians have been resisting. And that's how this whole misery started after Jews, Christians and Muslims were living together in some considerable peace on the Palestinian Territories.
Timestamp?
@@jh8914100 1:05:50
That last political reporter was smashed😂 “nice try, better luck next time”😂😂😂😂
Thats what pro Israel do.. Making stories and propaganda. Hasan nailed him right on his face.
So basically Eylon just went there to get rossted hhahaaha
"You see nothing justifies Oct 7th, but Oct 7th justifies everything?" -Mehdi Hassan
No. But there was an effort to terminate a severe threat to the population of Israel, and to rescue the hostages from Hamas while being attacked from different fronts by Iran, Hezbollah, etc. What would you have done to achieve those tasks as the Israeli prime minister?
@@sketchysketchbook1441 Pack my bags and go back to Poland or Ukraine or Russia where I came from.
@@missochisso He was Benjamin Mileikowsky- before his father changed it to “Netanyahu” when his parents immigrated to Mandatory Palestine from Warsaw, Poland. So yeah, Poland for him 😂
@@sketchysketchbook1441 Hannibal directive
@@sketchysketchbook1441 all the various fronts open when Israel went on massacring civilians. Do you notice they all attacked Israel months later.
Mehdi Hassan may your parents be proud of you.
why?
Mehdi Hassan is an idiot like his prophet who claims he flew on a white flying donkey with the face of a woman through the seven through the seven heavens
Mehndi is hero of the debate 👏 👌
Unaliving a Jew will make your parents more proud than anything in the world, I know what the islamic upbrining teaches you.
@@BravoCoy Because he can lie continuously without feeling shame.
Mr Hassan, thank you for speaking up for the voiceless Palestinians and the World that wants peace.
Mr Hassan is a gift to hamas and Hezbollah propaganda machine
Hahahahahahaha! Palestinians don't want peace, you MORON, they want to destory Israel, that is why Hamas BROKE the peace deal with Israel on 10/7/23. It is not only the stated mission of Hamas - the government of Gaza - to destroy Israel, but the majority of Palestinians support this goal. You are either a liar and too stupid to open your mouth.
😂😂😂The Palestinians never want peace, they have had conflict with almost the entire Middle East, that is why nobody wants them.
He's pathetic.
You are disgrace to society, i cant imagine how you allow you mind to see sufferance of people of gaza. I imagine you parents are worser than you teaching you this. @Go4Broke247
The people clapping for eylon are literally sociopaths
That’s true that’s show how people are naive
@@ZahidKhan-ix9cv nah they just all zionists lol
What crap
You sick man
They are rigth israel has the right to defend itself.. islam ☪️ needs to be stopped
An entire debate is not really needed here. Colonialism can never be justified. It's that simple
Eylon got absolutely destroyed by Mehdi. Guess it's easy when the truth is on your side.
"Destroyed" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You’re wrong
So Israel is easily destroying their enemies, by your logic truth is on Israeli side.
@@rays7808one sided demolition. Comments section says it all. Keep crying
@@Adam20672Израиль плачет, что их все угнетают, будучи с поддержкой самой передовой армией в мире. Представьте, если бы Газу поддерживали так же, солдатам идв не хватило бы памперсов.
"if you want to convince the people of Gaza that terrorism is a dead end, then stop inflicting terror on them"... Mehdi Hasan.
Every accusation is a confession
Well then the entire white civilization is pretty f*****d.
@@jakeicdang1704what about October 7th accusations😂
I wonder what Tel Aviv would like if there was no such thing as an Iron Dome
@@mohammadjaffarabbas9880 what about it?
"They are not your neighbors. They are people you've occupied. "
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Its a lie
Palestinians lived there all the time
@SCHEY101
@SCHEY101 Yeah, there little historical evidence to support this. The Diaspora, if that is what you are referring to, is far more attributed to the invasion of the Babylonians in 597 BCE and 586 BCE. Then later the Romans with the sacking of the 2nd Temple in 70 CE. But, in both cases, there is little in the way of historical evidence to support mass migrations during those periods thus far. Especially on the Roman side, which never had a history of mass displacement of conquered peoples. Either in the form of evidence of the migrations themselves (as mass human movements do leave evidence), or of displacement settlements you'd normally see surrounding evacuated territories during such events. It truly is just Historical acceptance of Religious Scripture that supports the Jewish peoples being "kicked out" of the region. While its far more likely the the diaspora of segments of the Jewish populous happened gradually, over the course of several hundred years. Especially under Roman and Byzantine Occupation.
This issue is further complicated by the fact that there is no historical evidence to support the Exodus either. Especially given, as its estimated to have happened around the 1300s BCE (had it occurred), the levant was under occupation of the still very powerful Egyptian Empire. Which means that Moses would have spent 40 years ... moving several million people from Egypt ... to Egypt? While leaving no evidence of such mass migrations in the territory; or Egyptian records. Instead, the likelihood (especially given that Yahweh is the name of one of the Minor Canaanite Gods), the Jewish peoples came from the Canaanite populations local to the region is pretty high. Which creates a problem, given the Palestinian peoples can also trace ancestry back to that same group. Though, in both cases, there is a lot of ethnic interbreeding by this point. Even some of Israel's own founders (David Be Gurion and Yitzhak Ben-Zvi) recognized this, if their supposed study "The Land of Israel in the past and present"(1918) can be believed.
"The Fellahin (Palestinian Farmers) are not the descendants of the Arab conquerors. Who captured Israel and Syria in the 7th Century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local populations. Nor did the Arabs go in for Settlement. Even in their former habitations, the Arabians did not engage in farming. They did not seek new lands in which to settle their peasantry, which hardly existed. Their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious, and material: to rule, to propagate Islam and collect taxes. Further, despite the oppression and occupation, the rural population remained unchanged". In essence, the Palestinians can find their ancestry in many ways to the populations that simply remained in those repeatedly conquered territories. Converting to both Christianity and Islam over generations. They didnt steal shit. By the very same "Blood and Soil" argument, its their land too. They just descend from those that stayed, over those that left.
@@cardbutton892 A lot of words to say there is no evidence either way. One thing is certain though, anyone who thinks that Israelis should face genocide because they are different to their neighbors needs to think again.
The Jews aren't going away ..Iran and many of their neighbors deny their right to exist ..if you want to blame someone for Israel's existence blame the U.N who decided they should have their own country after the millions of Jews were killed by Hitler
@@dez_mond19so did the jews . The Muslims Arabs don't have sole ownership of the region .
As always Mehdi completely destroys his opponent in this and every other debate! Brilliant! Every single sentence to the point. A joy to watch!
The guy himself does not believe what he is saying. Mehdi totally destroyed him
Yes
are you so stupid ?? did you see the all video? phreatic
No, because Mehdi is too short-sighted.
Mehdi didn't know the root cause of this war...
@@CecilVaepa the root cause of this war is polish refugees taking over arab land removing 4 million palestinians in neighbering countries and then iv3ding neighbering countries like lebanon. and they still have a part of syrian territory
He always blame the Occupiers but not the real root cause of this genocidal war..
Nelson Mandela was referred to as a terrorist by the USA and Europe for fighting for the rights of his people in his homeland , South Africa 🇿🇦.
Yeah.. Nelson Mandela.. I remember the time he recruited little children and handed them guns... What a time
So what genius, hamas is nit him. It's a terrorist organization like Isis
So all the people that fought for Nelson Mandela’s release just don’t exist
@ Kindly simply your response in relation to the statement above 👆🏿
Ireland's people resisting apartheid were tagged as terrorists, too, before being freed.
Nothing can justify what our eyes have seen. Mehdi was fantastic 👏🏾👏🏾 Freedom and dignity for Palestine.
What about sudan and the Uyghur people? We shouldn’t just focus on Palestine when there are other atrocities being committed around the globe
Mhedi was not only fanta sick he was totally sick and crazy for supporting and backing harmas
@@El_Negro2003but Israelis didn’t spoke about these all cases before October 7
Hypocrite
@@El_Negro2003can you be in point..this is a debate on Palestine not Sudan.
@@El_Negro2003 Because the Sudanese & Uyghur people aren’t being tortured with the full support of Western nations like the USA & UK.
The best debate ever existed... Mehdi Hasan is a legend.
If gaslighting was a person, it's Elon Levy.
Read facts before u are against eylon
@@נחוםעדיקה Facts go against Levy.... He was called out and shamed badly.
Leftists think that the majority of Palestinians are a bunch of hippies If only they would be left to their own devices. It's bullshit. Hamas is the elected government. They share huge majority support among the Palestinians.
This idea that Hamas is just 5 guys in a garage who have all the Palestinians under their thumb is ridiculous. It's not an accident that there isn't a single Arab democracy besides Israel. It isn't an accident that there is no Middle Eastern country that treats women as equals to men.
@@jeffgojailthis is a very dumb comment. Palestine hasn't had an election since 2006, when a majority of currently alive Palestinians were children. It is ridiculous to assume that Hamas represents the views of all Palestinians.
As for Hamas having a lot of support from Palestine, this is also not surprising. As is the case when people are oppressed and under threat of death or displacement (as Palestinians in gaza are and have been since before Oct 7), any resistance movement, no matter their views, becomes favorable. This is the case with Hamas. This was the case with Bush post 9/11. This is the case with Bibi post oct 7. This is the case with Hezbollah after the recent Israeli strikes in Beirut.
Now when it comes to there not being any thriving democracy in the middle east, much of that can be attributed to proxy wars and goverments and political instability caused by US and UK's involvement in the gulf. The only truly regressive Islamic states are Saudi Arabia and UAE, and those are allies of Israel in this conflict.
Speaking of allies, Bibi has been caught sending bags of money to Hamas over the years, to bolster them and to undermine the other major political party in Palestine, which is much less militant and liberal. It is obvious that Bibi wants to undermine efforts of democracy in Palestine and continue having Hamas in power so he can continue his "righteous war".
@common_undead
They had a chance to have a country that was 95% Arab and in Israel that was 55% Jewish and they turned it down because they'd rather go to war for 40 years then share the land they stole from the Jews with them. I'm so sick and tired of people like you just making excuse after excuse for these horrible people. You know what I think is racist? Not giving Palestinians any agency whatsoever. It doesn't matter if half the population didn't elect hamas. Way more than half the population supports them. In the West Bank they have 90% supports which is why a boss suspended elections there because Hamas would win and probably kill Fattah
Hassan’s sharp-witted responses always cuts right to the core of the issue
And what's the core of the issue? That Islamists terrorists wish to eradicate Israel. That's a terrible point to support.
The fact that this is even debating when someone in Gaza is living the hell of a life. Is enough to understand our Humanity, where it stands 🥲
I couldn’t agree more, it’s absolutely ridiculous that we even have to debate this.
Israel are the good guys, as clear cut as that can be in a world that is not black and white. Long live Israel 🇮🇱
@@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr But Natanyahu ,IDF, etc...
aren't except jews they are lovely not gonna lie ,the jews who want peace are lovely!!!!
May Allah help us all
@@sam-qp4hy Ameen
Bro don't get too emotional, this is the state of other cou tries too espacially in the middle east. It's bad what going on but there are a lot of bad people causing this, not just israel. Your shining beacon on justice Muslim countries opress other religions daily, kill each other and are also squatting on other people's lands.
Zionists crying in the comments is very funny
The people clapping for Eylon were paid to be there.
100%, go look at the cenk uyghur debate on this channel. a month ago all of the comments were that cenk was correct. now they're all about how mosab was correct, cenk is a liar, so on and so forth. they get paid to leave comments like that to try and shift the narrative, just like they get paid to go support israel's attack dogs in the media
Indeed!!!
And the ones clapping for Hasana are the most unbiased rational sanctimonious d heads the world has ever produced and seen , just like you.
Unfortunately they weren't. Look at the comment section.
Hasbara bots
Israel has thousands of Palestinians in prisons without trial that are starved, beaten and raped. And has for years and years. Israel is maximising the suffering.
Says who, amnesty international hahah? Gullible.
@@RachelJ-ki6nt says IDF soldiers and military doctors. Because as I am sure you know, the Israeli government will not let inspectors into their jails to review conditions there. When every human rights agency and international body is saying there is an issue, at what point do you think there might be an issue?
@@RachelJ-ki6ntlet's talk about the holocaust.... Who said it? Jews?
@alimos76harrington62
So u mean those hamas terr orists who paraded on streets th mutila ted, nak ed dea d bodies of ra ped teenage girls atop vehicles while shouting religious slogans were actually the 'victims' ??
Palestinians prisons ???? You know that they are terrorist right? That killed people or tried to! Educate yourself a bit before you spreading lies
The fact that people were applauding somebody justifying the killing of 16,000 children tells you exactly the state this world is in. What an absolute shame.
All the civilians that died in Gaza were human shields of Hamas terrorists, every baby knows that.
Def paid
How about those PPL who.justified osama bin Laden or al
Quieda? Is t it Shame?
Paid
People applauded Hitler as well
Mehdi’s opening response is a masterpiece. No spin, just facts.
"Eylon, they're not your neighbour. They are people you occupy." - Mehdi Hasan
Neither of these places had been occupied for nearly 20 years on 10/7.
@@THEAMINIDRISSHOW when meddy says it you can be sure it's a lye
To be occupied is to be controlled by an opposing/enemy power. Gaza has been occupied since they were forced out of their homes at gunpoint and rounded up into a small rectangle in the corner of the desert. Whether the israelis were actually in there with guns killing people or just locking them in and controlling what/who leaves or comes in.
@@jonnyd9351 You left out the part where they got forced out of their homes after starting a war against their neighbors.
@@jonnyd9351 1. that is what happens when you start a w@r.
This was a debate? I feel like it was more like Mehdi muckbang special - where he ate lunch and dinner for free.
6:29 Zi o garbage propaganda at its finest. These si ckos will say anything to justify a gen o cide.
😂 it's always funny to see terrorist delusions.
Lol the crowd is cheering for these guys like they are rock stars.
And maybe that is encouraging? Maybe not these two....but it would be fun if we got excited for academics like we do for taylor swift or lebron james.
Well when you’re in the side of truth and honesty like Mehdi you should feel special
Mehdi is a islamist apologist and a diversity hire at the news publication he works, now cope and seethe.
not only eylon got roasted but the newyork post media 🤣
They are scared. Their synag0gue of Sataan will fall soon.
You must not have watched the same debate as levy wiped the floor of this defender of terrorism.
@@karenfink713 if you use your head, clearly without choosing which side. Hassan has all the argument based on ICC, and any other law that can apply to this motion. While The guy you choose is picky, he could just answered some parts without any data and using experience instead, even he didnt agree to release the hostages on both sides. Truth always finds its way lady, cheers.
I have watched this war very carefully since Oct 7th. It’s a joke and lies that they want a hostage deal. Every deal israel agrees to Hamas doesn’t. Let’s be clear they stole innocent civilians including elderly, women and kids. It’s insane! The joke is the world wants ceasefires and hostage deals and two states. You know who doesn’t want that? Hamas! They want one state and all
Jews dead. That’s not an opinion that’s what they say. A day after they were attacked Hezbollah started with tons of rockets. Israel has been warning them for close to a year to move off the border so people can return to their homes in the north. Now they are at war with them. Actually they were always at war using the iron dome to protect them from the missiles but israel is fighting back. Let me guess that’s a war crime too?? Beepers that were held by Hezbollah was also a war crime?? Listen I can’t help stupid people who support terrorist. We can agree to disagree bc I know I am on the right side of history. It’s so clear to me and the aggressors are Hamas and Hezbollah.
@@karenfink713I am for Israel 🇮🇱 but mehdi was too strong for eylon , I am fair
Thank you Mahdi Hassan, you said a lot of what is in our hearts and stood with humanity against barbarism and occupation.
It's hard to defend the wrong side. Too much blood to hide behind the ruins.
This is the most powerful comment!
And what’s the right side for you?
@@yuuudrm Shame on Evil Hamas for hiding like frightened dogs behind civilians. This war shouldn’t even be happening and wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for Oct 7 If only they built upwards instead of hundreds of miles of tunnels below ground. Shame Hamas using poor kids to dig instead of letting them go to school and have a real education. I have family in Israel and they want peace as do their Arab neighbours. So stop spreading more hate and violence.
@@Tago238-n1n Not oppressing! Not colonizing! No stealing land and commiting genocide! Not committing worst war crimes! Not breaking international laws! Not denying people of the least basic right of atleast existing! And there are so much more Israhell's crimes are already loads and they just keep adding!
The blood on the Hamas hands
The moderating was shocking! Eylon allowed to interrupt and talk over Mehdi numerous times!
Yeah because if he doesn't the right wing will get all whiny and bitchy like trump
And it still didn't help him
Yes it's too many intervine while Mehdi Hassan trying to get his point across. Eylon was trying his very best to said the wrong doing to make it Wright .
Well in which ever way Eylon & ISREAL still have NO WRIGHT TO KLL THE PALESTINIAN. PERIOD .
Was I the only one that noticed the moderator say “don’t do it” to Eylon through the corners of the mouth like he was trying to be discreet. At 25:44.
What are you talking about? The moderator went Mehdi’s way multiple times, he let Mehdi get the last word and refused for Eylon (including when he was making a factual correction there’s no argument against with the ICJ “plausibility” claim, which Mehdi could have humiliated himself on since he didn’t seem to be aware of the judge’s clarification) to get it, the only time he latched onto what somebody said which he presumably deemed as a controversial to make it a question was with Eylon, etc.
Oh poor eylon who advised you to face mehdi on this debate
But Mehdi clearly lost 😂
Poor Mehdi, you mean. His classic Pathos-driven rhetoric full of red herrings and self righteous rants. A demagogue’s presentation: almost zero factual basis for arguments, but several clever ways to conceal agenda-based opinions. No real rational counter arguments, as he prefers mostly recitations of bait headlines and quotes that are taken out of context. No knowledge or understanding of military tactics or strategy whatsoever. Spreading exceptions to the rule on a tray, and presenting them like they are the rules, and feeding them to a passionate crowd. The list goes on and on. His skills are in rhetorical manipulation
@@DigiDriftZoneit might seem that way, watching the debate through distorted lens you call you're eyes.
@@SlaveofGod-ty9us Try watching it with a lens of facts and logic, not just emotional response individual heartbreaking stories as happen in all war.
@@DigiDriftZone Its Eylon who every time try to emotional and gain sympathy but knockout by the facts
Mehdi won debate here clearly
Who created Israel. The Rotschild's. PERIOD.
The PALESTINIANS have the right to DEFEND themselves.
With terror against civilians because that is all they are capable of?
By sending rockets..??.How many missiles/rockets does israel sent to palsestine..??None...If israel want to destroy the palastinians they have that rockets and missiles and palastine dont have a air defence. The thing is they only wnt hamas and they dont want civilian casualities. What the muslims want......Genoside of Jews..Israel cant take a chance brother promoting terrorism.
@@Mayu-xyxyThey are also capable of peaceful protest, but they get murdered by the IDF when they do that.
@@DoctorOzelot (Hamas is known for murdering Palestinians participating in protests against them, this is why Gaza didn't have elections since they came to power)
For over 70 years yes!
IDK why but, Jon Levin getting pissed off really made me happy :P
The face came with so much passion to Mehdi with the pin saying wear it, Mehdi as many people are ok with this, the fact when Mehdi then said can u wear it and condemn the children hostages in Isreal, he clearly refused just shows what a horrible person he is!
@ringtoneflex269 he said they are terrorists not children
i cannot believe the audacity of the west to even be discussing this
to be fair, US is quite involved in that conflict to the point of them withdrawing their support could change its course.
@@srgiop4Yeah but its like debating hitler or something
(1) Only an estimated and exaggerated number of casualties is stated, but no exact evidence lists each person's name, details and occupation. Therefore, Hamas should never be taken seriously until they provide details of every casualty. IDF registers 13000 soldiers and approx 19000 civilians. For urban warfare, these are the best figures you can ask for since Hamas did start this war, and they hide amongst their people.
(2) Genocide cannot be used when a population is growing exponentially. Doesn't make sense. Don't be an idiot.
(3) IDF has shown video footage of Israeli food trucks being hijacked and stolen by armed men (Hamas/Palestinians)
(4) Isreal supplied water pipes which was used to make rockets.
(5) Israel is diverse with Muslims from different religions within their society.
(6) Israel proposed about 5 two-state solutions with each one better than the previous one.
(7) Hamas openly says they will eradicate all non believers and even if you convert to Allah forcefully they will make your life difficult in society.
(8) There is video footage of hostages brutally beaten including women and children. Every Palestinian hostage that has been released has not even a single mark on their body.
(9) Massacres were openly celebrated by Palestinian people in Gaza with even children looking at naked dead bodies and celebrating with their parents.
(10) Dont be gullible.
The thing with us in the west is that we're allowed to debate and have different opinions
@@Bolognabeef I never seen hitler debate in the west.
The opening applause for the Mehdi Hassan was remarkable❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Eylon is making a total joke of himself by constantly interrupting. He knows he is wrong so he won't let Mehdi speak.
9:07 Typical Z io Jihad behavior. Just want to blame, f ight, and mu der anyone that moves.
It's hard to keep quiet when your opponent is spewing bullshit.
@@eve-1who Eylon spewing bullshit? Yup
Right Medhi never interrupted
@@navrhy3075 Eylon spoke the truth. Hamas attacked Israel and Israel responded. Medhi said Israel responded too well! Israel should be nicer to the Arabs who want to destroy Israel.
That newyork time report begged to be huminlated by Hasan 😂😂😂😂
NY Post, not the same
😂😂😂
@@realworldhumanone is Lossad the other CIL
POST, which is a conservative rag
*The NY Post guy regretted himself to ask a question too.* 😂😂😂😂
Bravo mahdi the world needs more brave people like you
It really doesn't, but each to their own
He's definitely MSNBC's loss and a sign of the channel's cowardice.
@@edwinblack-rw5xkyea ok
I'm so ashamed of my government for not calling out this terrible massacre of human beings shame on the UK
The fact Elon is acting like a spoiled princess in a debate speaks volumes.
@@betsymontoya9598😂😂be ashamed
@@betsymontoya9598 you sound like a child who is angry because he lost a game so he insults the other players.
You don't scare us Betsy, but we know we scare people like you.
I am confident people like you will see the consequences for their words and actions.
Bruised ego looser?or hasbara bot?@@betsymontoya9598
It's because he doesn't have the power to silence people when the truth is exposed. He is not at a Govt headquarters, he is on stage in front of an audience. And we see how he panicked and threw a temper tantrum when Hasan made strong points that the audience praised.
Indeed 😂
When will they learn that Mehdi always comes with receipts rather than bullsh**t
He is literally lying
@@pokydanatruth hurts, doesn’t it?
You eat what he vomits. Think for yourself.
@@redeemedstone😂 so you want us to believe someone with 0 facts. You do think we’re id!0ts do you? What arrogance
i can debunk any of his statements.....,
When two neighbouring countries fight each other, just know the USA visited one." --- Nelson Mandela
Amen. Plus, providing money and all the military aid they need.
The other is not a country
@@napflex1983
Israel not country
Goes for Britishers as well
Israel is not a country.. it's a military occupation want to annihilate native people to replace them with their jew people from the whole earth to establish its own country.. exactly like what its mother America had done to the native Americans