From the part of the show HBO didn't upload: "Luckily all our environmental laws are older than 18 years, so Rep. Gaetz shouldn't have much interest in them."
@@raymondkassay3610 real question: when pill-mill Trump deports millions of americans who harvest our food and do service jobs, who is going to fill those positions? Americans dont want to work on dairies or farms, or do service jobs. unemployment is below 4% anyway. So, who is going to pick/grow our food?
For the Singaporean Citizen scene, all I can think of is King of the Hill "So, Mr. Kahn, are you Chinese or Japanese?" "I lived in California for the past 20 years. I'm originally from Laos." ".... huh?" "Laos. We are Laotian." "The ocean? What ocean?" "We are Laotian - from Laos, stupid! It's a land locked country in south east Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million" "... soooo, are you Chinese or Japanese?"
🤣🤣For real ! As if they are deaf and only want their intrusive questions on written record as if they are a terrier going after a rat down a tunnel. They don't solve anything. Don't prove anything other than they are total A$$ Hools with no purpose other than to spend taxpayers money investigating anything. I'm surprised they don't ask how money toilet paper each defendant uses per poo.
With Google being forced to possibly sell Chrome and Rumble being an potential buyer, I think if it comes to that I'm downloading Opera. There's no way I'm letting Rumble control my internet browsing history.
for real, Instagram is doing more or less the same thing. Every time I linger for 5 seconds on a video my for you page is full of similar content suddenly
If they were treating it as a direct threat, it MIGHT hold water, but the tact of "its too dangerously powerful, you must sell it to us" is laughably, stupidly transparent.
If you know anything about China and how it views America, you would see how obviously it is a destabilization weapon right out of their playbook. Banning propaganda and misinformation vehicles that are owned by foreign adversaries should not be controversial. The reason it is controversial is because the propaganda is working.
Food for thought. Rather than just ban 1 app, why not just crack down on what kind of data companies can collect when people use their platform? Helps the American public and solves their concerns. But then again the people currently in office and those just recently elected will never do anything to actually help the American public, let alone take money away from big corporations.
Because regardless of privacy regulations, there is no amount of data we should feel comfortable handing directly over to the government, especially the the authoritarian one of a hostile nation.
What kept nagging at me was the fear of being blackmailed. What are our officials up to that they fear being made public? Instead of trying to bury the evidence, release it to the public. Take the power out of the threat.
TikTok community should just run some of its own candidates after having a few primaries on TikTok to see who would get the most votes and then try to change the laws to protect privacy since that’s what is important to national security
As a non-American I find it interesting, how personal data suddenly becomes an issue, once the new trending app is non-american. But what do I know... Hi Google! :)
Our government is so good at using the media to direct public conversation. We're all too distracted and uneducated, and politicians never actually say what they mean, and yet everyone thinks they do, while simultaneously claiming that all the politicians they don't like are lying about everything. It's baffling.
For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
It's not just about the short form content, it's the rate that it spreads misinformation and disinformation. It puts most other apps to shame in that regard.
@@Onarcalol no it doesn’t. Twitter is the king of misinformation and Facebook definitely takes second place. TikTok is more strict about everything across the board when it comes to social media companies. You can’t even say certain words like gun without being flagged
Short form video is absolute cancer. Its time waste and highly addicting. Most people can never stop doing it for a long time. And it completely fucks up children. Short form video infinity scroll should be banned or at least heavily regulated. It brain rots a BILLION people who could do something usefull otherwise like god damn learn something read or anything.
@@Onarca Oh yes its a problem. Fluid intelligence in humanity is on a decline (most data shows towards social media/media usage) first time ever its observated and at the same time AI is on the rise. We are in for some awakening.
The government should have better laws instead of targeting one company. This doesn't stop any other company from doing the exact same thing (which they do, here in the U.S.).
China bans American apps and websites all the time. The only logical response is to ban TikTok until they unban American apps. This is the standard tit for tat response.
I guess ...but you can sue/put in jail the owners of a US company for misuse (however actually real or unreal 🤷🏻💲💲💲) CIA doesn't have an office in the Google building...the Chinese intelligence services have a literal office at tiktok.i believe China sets rules on content/algorithms for media companies...I'm not even sure FB is allowed in China...gotta be easier to argue/fight a company like Google as a us citizen than the Chinese government as a Chinese citizen.
Would you say that the American companies have the same relationship with the American government as Chinese companies have with the Chinese government?
The singaporean being grilled by that congressman should've retorted with his own questioning, based on appearance: "how long have you served in the russian FSB? Do you hold a russian passport?"
So you trust the government that kills millions of its own citizens at a time and has gulags? If they do that to their own citizens what are they going to do to you?
We have publicly owned radio stations. We have publicly owned television broadcasting. Why do we not have publicly owned internet service providers and social media spaces?
A summary: tiktok does everything alphabet, microsoft, X or meta do, but the company doesn't share the data with the us government so they don't like it. So instead of doing a European style GDPR they focus on just the app they don't control(or doesn't donate to their campaigns)
So you would rather have chinese overlords? Europe is also working to ban tiktok BTW. Why do you think china doesnt allow such programs within their borders unless they are owned by china? Here is a hint, they understand the power and influence it would give the United States over their people.
American tech companies do not share your data with the government unless they’re subpoenaed. TikTok has also used the app to track the location and harrass a journalist that published information that they didn’t like.
I wouldn’t be surprised that in the last four years ByteDance has made significant monetary contributions to keep their business afloat but that security hawks can’t find it in themselves to trust it a priori because that ‘feels an awful lot like bribery’ - which is, of course, a significant security concern.
This is skipping over the fact it's going to a foreign government. Tiktok is owned by a nation that isn't on the best terms with us, of course it gets a special condition. I don't get how this keeps getting missed. It's not that we can't see, it's that China can
I don't really think it's more nuanced than most people think. Congress is banning tiktok for doing the exact same things all other social media companies do. The only difference is who owns the company, or more realistically because American social media companies have been lobbying for over a decade. And since it's not blanket protection for all American's data from all social media companies all tiktok has to do is buy the data from american companies for pennies. It's a bad law written by people who don't understand the technology they're legislating.
@@user-zu5do6ri6r, we may owe society, but we don’t have to let corrupt congress hide information from us to protect one of their own. They owe us integrity in their leadership.
You mean classified? For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
John Oliver missed a very important parts of why TikTok and social media are terrible: self diagnosis, using social media while driving, lower attention spans, etc.
@@franjkav No it ain't. It's in the agreement. It's buried in 100 pages of legal nonsense but it's there. All they gotta do is show your consent and say "Not our fault you didn't read it."
I was talking about the reason for the demand to sell, which was not initiated by ByteDance. But also, if the dictate is that they must sell to an American company, that’s a limitation on potential bidders which could artificially keep the price low. Heck, they’d probably force a sale of $1 to some temporary holding company, which then resells to the highest domestic bidder for an enormous profit that doesn’t leave this country. If ByteDance is interested in money, they’d want to keep the ongoing revenue instead of being forced into selling.
@@neildolan3700 Really? If you were force to sell your thriving company under a short notice, you will never get even half of asset worth. Not to mention the company could worth double in a year. Imagine you force Musk to sell his Tesla share 2020.
Unfortunate that the most harmful aspect of the app was completely ignored and not even tangentially touched on, and that is just how easy it is for incredibly disruptive and destructive misinformation to spread on that platform, and how widespread it is.
Of all people, I can't believe John is arguing IN FAVOR of TikTok. It is absolutely a danger to America and is harming Americans. Facebook, Instagram, RUclips, Twitter, and others also need to be reigned in, but the FOREIGN ADVERSARY one definitely takes the cake.
It's getting banned for being owned by a company that has to put the interests of an adversarial foreign government over its own business. If they spin it out or sell it it's not banned
The fact that there's no public evidence that bytedance has acted on any directions from the Chinese government doesn't mean anything. There's no way we could know without deep espionage and of course we wouldn't want to reveal the intelligence methods we discovered any evidence through The point is that under the current regime the Chinese government has the right and ability to freely manipulate tiktok with no public visibility and that in and of itself is a huge problem. Whether they haven't done it already or we just don't have evidence that can be made public or they haven't done it yet, the fact remains that they can do it whenever they want and it's a huge threat Yes we should have blanket privacy and algorithmic manipulation regulations that apply to all American companies too. Also we shouldn't have major media companies dominating in America that are subject to the control of hostile foreign governments. All bytedance needs to do is sell off or spin out tiktok to a company not under the thumb of the CCP and everyone can keep using it. Why is that off the table for them?
@@christmastigeras a person who has dealt with actual addiction issues, i find it so alarmist and ridiculous to say it’s like a drug. It’s not a good thing for sure and it can be addictive but it’s nothing like a drug that can kill you from withdrawals or OD.
John pointing out how shameless TikTok users are is so funny bc of how true it is. There are no secrets, no guilt, no shame on that app. A truly lawless land 😂
Tiktok, much like desperate trolls that were obviously starved of their mother's attention, is something that just holds no interest for me. I once downloaded it and tried to make videos but I simply can't give enough of an eff to be bothered with it and, as all things on the Internet work, unless you're willing to put in the time and make it flashy (or simply use a filter to fake the flashy and add music people like) it's not ever going to get engagement. But that's ✨exactly✨ my sweet spot. As of about 12 years old I got WAY TOO ATTENTION, and at 50 I've finally aged out of the vast amount of attention from a huge mass of horny dudes and angry women that want the attention of the horny men. I'm finally just a person again, like I was for the first 11 years of my life. It's GLORIOUS. So why would I go through the steps required to purposefully seek an audience by gaming an algorithm to pay attention to me? For what possible purpose? If people aren't willing to read what I have to write, it's obvious they have no interest. I'm not going to put on makeup and a showy dress for T&A appeal to get attention when I want to speak up about something. Trying to jam everything I need to say into a short TikTok video is like parts of John Oliver's show- he's speaking too fast about the really IMPORTANT parts and knows he'll lose the audience if he doesn't make another joke despite the gravity of what he's speaking about. On a random note, I just noticed that Trump looks vaguely like my dad, in the kind of dead eyed stare where they paused his tiktok video as John kept speaking. It's the exact look of a man who is mentally and emotionally trapped in a place a plethora of decades ago and REALLY doesn't like the world he's trapped in now but it's that or death so he just keeps existing with that bizarre expression and is angry he's not relevant. Thankfully my dad died so he won't be insulted by that as he hated Trump for being "a philandering, soul selling spineless schmuck that stands for absolutely nothing if he can make a buck off it; all he cares about is money and those people are the people that historically have always flushed our country straight down the toilet," and, as with most things, my father was indeed correct. That dead eyed stare of a man making a video telling people he's there to save a platform he himself tried to get rid of, on the platform telling people to vote for him because he'll save it. But he won't. He doesn't understand it and only uses it to ogle women younger than his own daughter. . . And, of course, to make money selling cheap Chinese garbage merch on a Chinese app with virtue signaling American flags everywhere, all of the items ignoring the actual flag code itself. What a lifeless husk of a person that desperately wants it to be the 1980's again.
ive been too old for all that nonsense back since i was in my teens XD had one look at facebook and friendster and all the other nonsense back then and said "nope not touching that"
@@consciousness3466 Before app stores, we could download a program and install it on the pc or phone. Has that capability secretly removed or do people forget how to do that?
Not really though because they aren't owned by the governments of hostile nations. They would arguably be a security threat to the regimes of China, Russia, Iran etc. but that's why those governments have banned them
I completely agree, but the TikTok issue is because of its chinese ownership, and the fact that the amount of information the CCP can and has harvested from it is frightening. But yes, down with social media
7:47 I honest to god got diagnosed with ADHD by my algorithm! I was really struggling in university as well as some personal problems I just couldn’t seem to sort out, till the algorithm started showing me People with ADHD talking about the EXACT problems I was experiencing as well!! I got professionally diagnosed and now 2 years later I am properly medicated, succeeding in school and more in control of my life than ever before :) Non of that would have happened it weren’t for the algorithm Scary to think about but I am honestly so greatful!
As much as I dislike tiktok and short-form brainrot, a better solution would be to just crack down on companies collecting and selling data. But we all know that Congress never chooses the better solution.
@@greteb1951given how much Jesus fought against corrupt government and religious officials, Trump definitely is not in any way comparable to Jesus. The problem is that all of his followers think he is 😭
How hard is it for people to understand there's a HUGE difference between a foreign country, who is our economic & cultural rival, collecting our data compared to a domestic one?
Cultural rival? Are you afraid you’ll get communist cooties or something? Also “economic rival” is idiotic. No country literally needs to be at the top, it doesn’t have to be a competition. The relationship can be beneficial and based on cooperation. Stop eating up dumb anti-china propaganda
I think we all collectively realized the potential risks of having any personal information on computers connected to the internet to begin with, shrugged, and embarked on a technological odyssey together fully knowing it probably doesn't end well.
How hasn't it ended well? Internet connectivity is one of humanity's greatest achievements. Also the "I'm nobody" argument still stands up remarkably well for all intents and purposes.
I’m glad he mentioned other social media apps do the exact same thing as TikTok. Just don’t post your whole life online and itll be that much harder for them
Any Russian oligarch is somehow related to Putin, which means they are insiders and can threaten Elon’s business, the 20% rule does not guarantee independence of the media
That's the old way, Elon does it himself now. A study came out that the algorithm changed to favor Musk tweets and conservative-leaning tweets around the time he endorsed Trump
There's one thing I and everyone else should know for certain: when the US government says it's about national security, it isn't. There is ALWAYS an ulterior motive.
For a reason, national security. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data if an American company has it is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
I remember a story years ago about a military base's security being compromised because of all the soldiers and staff wearing FitBits (the gps data could be used to track their locations), but i don't remember the govt demanding they be sold or dissolved or anything like that
They limit devices on sensitive sites here. Ukraine became that sort of environment. Its a laugh in peacetime, but not when both sides have signals warfare and rocket artillery.
I was hoping you’d cover the other important reason TikTok came under fire. When Trump held a rally, and TikTok users reserved all the tickets, leaving the venue empty. That’s when Trump and the GOP began targeting TikTok. Up until that point, many GOP-promoted social issues were being effectively shared on the platform. Once Democrats realized how quickly TikTok could mobilize people outside of their control as well, the crosshairs were locked on TikTok from both sides. Love this show!
Data collection isn't my main concern with TikTok. Algorithmically-served short-form content is an immense plague on the human mind. Machine learning systems have become exceptional at keeping your attention, especially when the content only takes a minute to consume. This has been shown to induce ADHD-like symptoms, and needless to say, has wasted hours of peoples' time. It is impossible to pack any sort of nuance into a minute of video, leading to misinformation by ommission, and every piece of information is an opinion piece with no fact-checkers. This is a far bigger problem to me than any data collection. While TikTok is not the only offender, it is the most prolific.
Feels worth noting that for all the US Tech Companies, Congress could pass new laws to regulate them and has ways to enforce those. That’s significantly more limited when a company is based elsewhere.
5:50 - I'm a single millennial with no transportation in a small town, stuck in a toxic MI hud apt. & have been disabled since childhood. I've been begging the medical system for 15 years for the amazing freedom & quality of life a scooter would give me, but was told I basically have to be bedridden or in hospice to qualify. Since I can't even make $200 above my fixed disability that's still under $1k a month, I have no hope of saving for one myself. I've tried a GoFundMe, but as is proven by this story, ppl are vastly more willing to give someone 10x what they needed- if it's on the news or viral. I will end up nor surviving the next 4 years, and I gave up on my dream of living in a RV/camper/van, so I can experience anything at all in my life before it's over...
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Daniel O'Brien putting Iron Giant jokes into things will never die.
You would think in 27 minutes you'd have some time to cover unintended consequences of more data privacy. Collecting and selling this data primarily for advertising purposes is why all of these platforms are free. A setting or policy to "opt out" necessarily will also have a "now you pay $5 a month" for this. If we are so concerned with privacy, how about we start with an expectation of privacy in public spaces - no biometrics, cameras, etc unless you specifically opt in. Let people in their private decisions make their own privacy choices.
I could never forget this story because I was working in a high school at the time. I tried to present the story to my students as “I’m against this but there are legitimate concerns with TikTok” but my mentor teacher completely shut down any balanced point I tried to make 🙃
Please try not to make fun of people's accents. It doesn't equate to being poorly educated. Linguistic diversity is beautiful and normal. Not trying to ruin anyone's fun, but it is actually an important thing.
For a reason, national security isn't dire right? I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data if an American company has it is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
Parent child argument: Your favorite social media platform is biased, invasive and corrosive! No, your social media platform is biased, invasive and corrosive!
Mine doesn't collect literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data, if an American company has it, is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
And this is why I don't and will never use Tiktok. Also, because I don't speak dumb teenage slang and I don't possess an irrepressible need to perpetually follow my Gen Z peers like a damn sheep. Sorry, I just have a lot of pent up anger at this dumb app because it has eaten the souls of nearly every one of my friends and family members.
I don't know how someone could honestly think China wouldn't track tiktok data and they can easily do this. America and China are not friends. This unfortunately will likely become worse. Tiktok has a really great algorithm and I enjoy watching videos on it. Governments gonna govern. I wish we lived in a more democratic egalitarian place.
Very good points. I think pointing out the double standard was really good here, especially when Google and FB lay so much claim to our information as well.
TikTok added just shy of $25 billion to the GDP last year… Not all those 7 million business are small either so if anything stands out to Trump saving the app it’ll be that number
@@michaelf8221 In the same video above that I assumed we both watched... There is a literal cattle wrangling farmer explaining how he *doesn't* get the same business from other sources that he does from TikTok. So no, I don't think they would. And the reason for that is simple: they didn't see the cow for sale on YT or X or BlueSky. They saw it on TikTok. Different algo, different distribution, and TikTok's algo is built on selling and advertising products. Unlike YT, whose model is to appeal to the advertisers. The advertisers are still trying to sell, but YT isn't trying to sell for them in the same way. The platforms aren't actually samey enough for what you say to be true.
23:13 yeah I remember when the PATRIOT Act was just to “Keep Americans safe from terrorists” and then we ended up finding out it was just for the government to SPY on us without a warrant, and the backlash of that being public will always make me laugh. Congress members were screaming safety, safety, safety but most of America was having non of it
While others watched Tiger King. Me? I watched Kamen Rider and Ultraman while playing Dragon Quest and starting a garden. I always seem to be the odd one.
From the part of the show HBO didn't upload: "Luckily all our environmental laws are older than 18 years, so Rep. Gaetz shouldn't have much interest in them."
@raymondkassay3610 Lets deregulate America till people cannot afford milk🎉🎉. MAGA 2024🎉🎉🎉
@@raymondkassay3610And this is why education is vital to a free society. Regulation built modern day America, buddy
@raymondkassay3610 can't wait for our country to be ran by r*pists, pdf files, and abusers. Protect women and children btw.
God that’s grim and hilarious in one go.
@@raymondkassay3610 real question: when pill-mill Trump deports millions of americans who harvest our food and do service jobs, who is going to fill those positions? Americans dont want to work on dairies or farms, or do service jobs. unemployment is below 4% anyway. So, who is going to pick/grow our food?
For the Singaporean Citizen scene, all I can think of is King of the Hill
"So, Mr. Kahn, are you Chinese or Japanese?"
"I lived in California for the past 20 years. I'm originally from Laos."
".... huh?"
"Laos. We are Laotian."
"The ocean? What ocean?"
"We are Laotian - from Laos, stupid! It's a land locked country in south east Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million"
"... soooo, are you Chinese or Japanese?"
🤣🤣For real ! As if they are deaf and only want their intrusive questions on written record as if they are a terrier going after a rat down a tunnel. They don't solve anything. Don't prove anything other than they are total A$$ Hools with no purpose other than to spend taxpayers money investigating anything. I'm surprised they don't ask how money toilet paper each defendant uses per poo.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Yep"
"Yep"
"Yep"
Mmmm-hmmm"
I tell you what 😂
yet he somehow understands boomhower
Ngl it’s kinda funny to see this as a German working in tech because we have the same or similar worries about US companies.
Yeah, as an American I am suspicious every time the US points a finger.
America is the definition of hypocrisy.
Most of us Americans feel the same way! But only the ones who are actually paying attention lol
With Google being forced to possibly sell Chrome and Rumble being an potential buyer, I think if it comes to that I'm downloading Opera. There's no way I'm letting Rumble control my internet browsing history.
for real, Instagram is doing more or less the same thing. Every time I linger for 5 seconds on a video my for you page is full of similar content suddenly
If they were treating it as a direct threat, it MIGHT hold water, but the tact of "its too dangerously powerful, you must sell it to us" is laughably, stupidly transparent.
If you know anything about China and how it views America, you would see how obviously it is a destabilization weapon right out of their playbook. Banning propaganda and misinformation vehicles that are owned by foreign adversaries should not be controversial. The reason it is controversial is because the propaganda is working.
Yes. Considering all the U.S. apps collect and store the same info TT is allegedly storing.
18:20 "Senator 'I wasn't really an Army Ranger but boy will I tell everyone I was', only one of us has lied to the American people, and it's you."
Some poor intern had to look up sonic feet and that’s now on his search history forever.
They probably have a dedicated computer for the weird searches they have to make. Just don’t look at the ads on webpages, they lost an intern that way
Forget his search history, every time they close their eyes for the rest of their lives, there's a chance Sonic's stinky feet will be there
They'll get a new computer, problem solved.
the intern probably likes sonic feet, dont kink shame.
Those could have come from his own collection. We'd need to ask those big tech to know....
Food for thought. Rather than just ban 1 app, why not just crack down on what kind of data companies can collect when people use their platform? Helps the American public and solves their concerns.
But then again the people currently in office and those just recently elected will never do anything to actually help the American public, let alone take money away from big corporations.
But how can we make money off of that? /s
That would fuck up our non spying U.S. Businesses.
/s in case.
The Hypocrisy is... expected.
Because regardless of privacy regulations, there is no amount of data we should feel comfortable handing directly over to the government, especially the the authoritarian one of a hostile nation.
@@krombopulos_michaelYour nation is more hostile to you than China
Well that’s just downright sensible, and we can’t have that!
Only a good guy with a metaphorical gun can stop a bad guy with a metaphorical gun.
well done, well done
That metaphorical gun better not make me afraid for my families or my life. Cause I don't use fake guns.
@@williamwhitney7395It's not the fake guns fault, though. It didn't know better.
What kept nagging at me was the fear of being blackmailed. What are our officials up to that they fear being made public? Instead of trying to bury the evidence, release it to the public. Take the power out of the threat.
@@williamwhitney7395damn... i hope horror movies stear clear
told my congressperson "not only will i vote for your replacement, i will be campaigning for them, and i did"
You're part of the problem, not the solution. We need more safeguards against propaganda and misinformation, not less.
Pick your multi billionaire overlord. Whoever has the nicest boots
TikTok community should just run some of its own candidates after having a few primaries on TikTok to see who would get the most votes and then try to change the laws to protect privacy since that’s what is important to national security
What?
Its easy to have 7 million small “businesses” when half the tiktoks are people pushing their commissioned or dropshipped product
Exactly, just some bullshit claims
As a non-American I find it interesting, how personal data suddenly becomes an issue, once the new trending app is non-american. But what do I know... Hi Google! :)
Our government is so good at using the media to direct public conversation. We're all too distracted and uneducated, and politicians never actually say what they mean, and yet everyone thinks they do, while simultaneously claiming that all the politicians they don't like are lying about everything. It's baffling.
Big brother doesn’t like it when any one else spies on their citizens
😂😂😂😂
For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
Of course in the US its a big deal. It could be weaponized. Other countries should be worried about US companies as well.
Good thing I don't have Tik-Tok, and only consume short form media on every other app
It's not just about the short form content, it's the rate that it spreads misinformation and disinformation. It puts most other apps to shame in that regard.
@@Onarcalol no it doesn’t. Twitter is the king of misinformation and Facebook definitely takes second place. TikTok is more strict about everything across the board when it comes to social media companies. You can’t even say certain words like gun without being flagged
Short form video is absolute cancer. Its time waste and highly addicting. Most people can never stop doing it for a long time. And it completely fucks up children. Short form video infinity scroll should be banned or at least heavily regulated. It brain rots a BILLION people who could do something usefull otherwise like god damn learn something read or anything.
@@illuminant777XtX i agree, short video format has to be regulated or smthn. Its hijacking human brain
@@Onarca Oh yes its a problem. Fluid intelligence in humanity is on a decline (most data shows towards social media/media usage) first time ever its observated and at the same time AI is on the rise. We are in for some awakening.
Guy on Fox News calling TikTok junk food for our brains is chef's kiss irony.
TikTok is junk food for our brains. Fox News is a cigarette with an asbestos filter mesh.
And lets now hear how they praise that Trump stopped the ban
All mainstream media is garbage … fox is the same as msnbc
Don't you guys still believe Russia collusion conspiracies?
I mean... he's right. Ironically so, but still right 😅
Maybe we need robust public protection laws on all forms of social media, not just TikTok
The government should have better laws instead of targeting one company. This doesn't stop any other company from doing the exact same thing (which they do, here in the U.S.).
But they only care about this one company, because the competitors of said company have billions lobbied telling them to.
China bans American apps and websites all the time. The only logical response is to ban TikTok until they unban American apps. This is the standard tit for tat response.
"Metaphorical gun violence will not stand!" 🤣
Yup, its true. China is dangerous.
The point that Google and Meta are doing the exact same thing only on a far larger scale, can not be stressed enough!
They are American companies so it’s irrelevant.
Byte Dance brought this exact thing up during the hearing, and Congress' actual reaponse was "They're not Chinese, they don't count."
I guess ...but you can sue/put in jail the owners of a US company for misuse (however actually real or unreal 🤷🏻💲💲💲)
CIA doesn't have an office in the Google building...the Chinese intelligence services have a literal office at tiktok.i believe China sets rules on content/algorithms for media companies...I'm not even sure FB is allowed in China...gotta be easier to argue/fight a company like Google as a us citizen than the Chinese government as a Chinese citizen.
Would you say that the American companies have the same relationship with the American government as Chinese companies have with the Chinese government?
Are they going to use that data in an active conflict against you, like China is preparing to?
The singaporean being grilled by that congressman should've retorted with his own questioning, based on appearance: "how long have you served in the russian FSB? Do you hold a russian passport?"
And asked if he was here legally
everyone is guilty until proven otherwise in very simple words a 5 year could understand if he really wanted to
Talk about a flashback. "Are you now or have you ever been?"
Fighting back with their own questioning would be counterproductive. Allow the one doing the questioning to expose their own foolishness.
@@Hawkenwhacker exactly. Make them look bad and silly. Keep saying the right answers.
Tom Cotton does an excellent reprisal of Joe McCarthy's style of questioning.
So basically government saying how dare you track our citizens that’s our job
No it's the job of their donor social media companies
Yeah, well, one problem at a time. The Chinese taking our money leaves us all unable to deal with our own crooked billionaire class. 😂
Well said.
So you trust the government that kills millions of its own citizens at a time and has gulags? If they do that to their own citizens what are they going to do to you?
You id...t
We have publicly owned radio stations.
We have publicly owned television broadcasting.
Why do we not have publicly owned internet service providers and social media spaces?
Because of the insane fearmongering against socialism & communism. Anything „communal“ is bad!! Only hyperindividualism and capitalism good.
Technically, PBS is on RUclips.
You might have noticed that the GOP has tried to defund A and B on a regular basis. There is no way the incoming administration is going for C.
@Thiefnuker The government shouldn't be funding the first 2 things. This is a classic 2 wrongs don't make a right.
Be careful what you wish for when twitter becomes state media under Trump hehe
A summary: tiktok does everything alphabet, microsoft, X or meta do, but the company doesn't share the data with the us government so they don't like it. So instead of doing a European style GDPR they focus on just the app they don't control(or doesn't donate to their campaigns)
That's the whole point! Americans can only be screwed by American themselves, not by the Chinese. This is indeed a national security issue...
So you would rather have chinese overlords? Europe is also working to ban tiktok BTW. Why do you think china doesnt allow such programs within their borders unless they are owned by china? Here is a hint, they understand the power and influence it would give the United States over their people.
American tech companies do not share your data with the government unless they’re subpoenaed.
TikTok has also used the app to track the location and harrass a journalist that published information that they didn’t like.
I wouldn’t be surprised that in the last four years ByteDance has made significant monetary contributions to keep their business afloat but that security hawks can’t find it in themselves to trust it a priori because that ‘feels an awful lot like bribery’ - which is, of course, a significant security concern.
This is skipping over the fact it's going to a foreign government. Tiktok is owned by a nation that isn't on the best terms with us, of course it gets a special condition.
I don't get how this keeps getting missed. It's not that we can't see, it's that China can
14:44 ok, I know it’s a quote but referring to Falun Gong as just a “banned religious group” is a pretty generous description lmfao
I hope they do ban TikTok. It's turning people into absolute morons.
Nah. I think it's just giving them a platform.
I don't really think it's more nuanced than most people think. Congress is banning tiktok for doing the exact same things all other social media companies do. The only difference is who owns the company, or more realistically because American social media companies have been lobbying for over a decade. And since it's not blanket protection for all American's data from all social media companies all tiktok has to do is buy the data from american companies for pennies. It's a bad law written by people who don't understand the technology they're legislating.
They want to ban it for only one reason . 🧃 Have no control over it .
They're doing it cuz Meta paid them
@sanmer85 the entire Jewish lobby . Not just meta
@@M3ganwillslayIs the Jewish lobby currently in the room with us?
@@_jpgaipac? Nah they are busy buying the new incoming house members
If my taxpayer-funded math teacher can demand I show my work, then I demand Congress shows theirs.
And this is why we have politicians like we have, Because we have nothing better to offer. Everyone is crap. 😂
@Ursicus-td8zt You have it backwards. We owe society. Society doesn't owe us.
@@user-zu5do6ri6r, we may owe society, but we don’t have to let corrupt congress hide information from us to protect one of their own. They owe us integrity in their leadership.
Eat your veggies and in about 25 years you can look it up when it's declassified.
You mean classified? For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
We should break up FB and IG into seperate companies again as well.
John Oliver missed a very important parts of why TikTok and social media are terrible: self diagnosis, using social media while driving, lower attention spans, etc.
I am so glad "tiktok knew I was gay before I did" made it into this because it's a *wild* phenomenon
Ban all corporations from stealing our info under threat of prison for management, leaders & major shareholders.
+1!
It isn't theft. You agree to their user agreements and terms and conditions
But what about the 1st Amendment?
@@coltonblake13dumb argument
@@franjkav No it ain't. It's in the agreement. It's buried in 100 pages of legal nonsense but it's there. All they gotta do is show your consent and say "Not our fault you didn't read it."
The “sell it to an American company” part of the demand tells me that it is entirely about money.
Exactly
On the other hand, the refusal to do so tells me it's *not* about money on ByteDance's end.
America will always try their best to keep certain information from getting to the public.
I was talking about the reason for the demand to sell, which was not initiated by ByteDance. But also, if the dictate is that they must sell to an American company, that’s a limitation on potential bidders which could artificially keep the price low. Heck, they’d probably force a sale of $1 to some temporary holding company, which then resells to the highest domestic bidder for an enormous profit that doesn’t leave this country. If ByteDance is interested in money, they’d want to keep the ongoing revenue instead of being forced into selling.
@@neildolan3700 Really? If you were force to sell your thriving company under a short notice, you will never get even half of asset worth. Not to mention the company could worth double in a year. Imagine you force Musk to sell his Tesla share 2020.
That clip made Senator Tom Cotton sound like a bargain basement Senator Joe McCarthy 😂😂😂
Unfortunate that the most harmful aspect of the app was completely ignored and not even tangentially touched on, and that is just how easy it is for incredibly disruptive and destructive misinformation to spread on that platform, and how widespread it is.
Of all people, I can't believe John is arguing IN FAVOR of TikTok. It is absolutely a danger to America and is harming Americans. Facebook, Instagram, RUclips, Twitter, and others also need to be reigned in, but the FOREIGN ADVERSARY one definitely takes the cake.
You know it's funny when TikTok is getting banned for data broking, while Meta and Google are giggling heartily.
It’s happening because they lobbied for it
And you TALK about buying something and the next thing you know there are 15 ads on the damn Microsoft EDGE and Facebook for it.
At least they're American. We don't want to help China hasten our inevitable collapse
It's getting banned for being owned by a company that has to put the interests of an adversarial foreign government over its own business.
If they spin it out or sell it it's not banned
The fact that there's no public evidence that bytedance has acted on any directions from the Chinese government doesn't mean anything. There's no way we could know without deep espionage and of course we wouldn't want to reveal the intelligence methods we discovered any evidence through
The point is that under the current regime the Chinese government has the right and ability to freely manipulate tiktok with no public visibility and that in and of itself is a huge problem. Whether they haven't done it already or we just don't have evidence that can be made public or they haven't done it yet, the fact remains that they can do it whenever they want and it's a huge threat
Yes we should have blanket privacy and algorithmic manipulation regulations that apply to all American companies too. Also we shouldn't have major media companies dominating in America that are subject to the control of hostile foreign governments. All bytedance needs to do is sell off or spin out tiktok to a company not under the thumb of the CCP and everyone can keep using it. Why is that off the table for them?
I feel called out by the “Xena: Warrior Princess” reference. That deserved a bigger laugh.
I don’t trust myself to get TikTok… so I’ll just binge shorts on RUclips… at least I’m self aware about my cognitive dissonance.
That’s exactly what I do
And funnily enough, RUclips algorithm still gets it wrong after 14 years. (and that's good)
I can't do the short-form stuff, maybe that's why I'm so opposed to downloading TikTok cause people describe it like it's an addictive drug
@@christmastigeras a person who has dealt with actual addiction issues, i find it so alarmist and ridiculous to say it’s like a drug. It’s not a good thing for sure and it can be addictive but it’s nothing like a drug that can kill you from withdrawals or OD.
Same, the shorts algorithm is pretty bad thou. So I hate myself for binging and the content is not even good.
Great show John! Needed the laughs! This information is scary 💩!
John pointing out how shameless TikTok users are is so funny bc of how true it is. There are no secrets, no guilt, no shame on that app. A truly lawless land 😂
I’m in the “I’m too old” camp. I fall somewhere between TikTok and hour plus podcasts. Your show falls perfectly in my sweet spot.
this comment exactly
😂😂😂😂😂this show fits perfectly in the trash that where the dem party is too. Trump 2024.
@@donaldtrumpsmom4575Linda McMahon and Dr Oz 🤣
The second least satisfying "I told you so" in recent history 😢
Tiktok, much like desperate trolls that were obviously starved of their mother's attention, is something that just holds no interest for me. I once downloaded it and tried to make videos but I simply can't give enough of an eff to be bothered with it and, as all things on the Internet work, unless you're willing to put in the time and make it flashy (or simply use a filter to fake the flashy and add music people like) it's not ever going to get engagement.
But that's ✨exactly✨ my sweet spot.
As of about 12 years old I got WAY TOO ATTENTION, and at 50 I've finally aged out of the vast amount of attention from a huge mass of horny dudes and angry women that want the attention of the horny men. I'm finally just a person again, like I was for the first 11 years of my life. It's GLORIOUS.
So why would I go through the steps required to purposefully seek an audience by gaming an algorithm to pay attention to me? For what possible purpose?
If people aren't willing to read what I have to write, it's obvious they have no interest. I'm not going to put on makeup and a showy dress for T&A appeal to get attention when I want to speak up about something.
Trying to jam everything I need to say into a short TikTok video is like parts of John Oliver's show- he's speaking too fast about the really IMPORTANT parts and knows he'll lose the audience if he doesn't make another joke despite the gravity of what he's speaking about.
On a random note, I just noticed that Trump looks vaguely like my dad, in the kind of dead eyed stare where they paused his tiktok video as John kept speaking. It's the exact look of a man who is mentally and emotionally trapped in a place a plethora of decades ago and REALLY doesn't like the world he's trapped in now but it's that or death so he just keeps existing with that bizarre expression and is angry he's not relevant.
Thankfully my dad died so he won't be insulted by that as he hated Trump for being "a philandering, soul selling spineless schmuck that stands for absolutely nothing if he can make a buck off it; all he cares about is money and those people are the people that historically have always flushed our country straight down the toilet," and, as with most things, my father was indeed correct.
That dead eyed stare of a man making a video telling people he's there to save a platform he himself tried to get rid of, on the platform telling people to vote for him because he'll save it. But he won't. He doesn't understand it and only uses it to ogle women younger than his own daughter. . . And, of course, to make money selling cheap Chinese garbage merch on a Chinese app with virtue signaling American flags everywhere, all of the items ignoring the actual flag code itself.
What a lifeless husk of a person that desperately wants it to be the 1980's again.
ive been too old for all that nonsense back since i was in my teens XD
had one look at facebook and friendster and all the other nonsense back then and said "nope not touching that"
If TikTok gets banned in America, and Americans still want to use it, all they need is a VPN to access it from a different nation.
Fine for casual users, but my 100% of my income is from American Tiktok users
That's not how it works. It is banned in India and you can't access it on VPN coz it's illegal for VPN providers.
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What if they remove it from the app store?
@@consciousness3466 Before app stores, we could download a program and install it on the pc or phone. Has that capability secretly removed or do people forget how to do that?
100% fine with a blanket social media ban. If Tiktok is a security threat, then so is Insta, Snap, Facebook, and Twitter.
Not really though because they aren't owned by the governments of hostile nations. They would arguably be a security threat to the regimes of China, Russia, Iran etc. but that's why those governments have banned them
I completely agree, but the TikTok issue is because of its chinese ownership, and the fact that the amount of information the CCP can and has harvested from it is frightening. But yes, down with social media
Sounds like a free speech violation, no?
@@krombopulos_michaelTikTok is owned by a Singaporean
@@SC-dm1ctSingapore ain't China, TikTok is not controlled by China
7:47
I honest to god got diagnosed with ADHD by my algorithm!
I was really struggling in university as well as some personal problems I just couldn’t seem to sort out, till the algorithm started showing me People with ADHD talking about the EXACT problems I was experiencing as well!!
I got professionally diagnosed and now 2 years later I am properly medicated, succeeding in school and more in control of my life than ever before :)
Non of that would have happened it weren’t for the algorithm
Scary to think about but I am honestly so greatful!
As much as I dislike tiktok and short-form brainrot, a better solution would be to just crack down on companies collecting and selling data. But we all know that Congress never chooses the better solution.
He has a good point. The jar hasn't been recognized for it's continued practicality and accomplishments.
This was such a comprehensive and entertaining video, thanks John and team!
I think orange jesus is a bigger threat than tik tok.
Almost as dangerous as brown jesus
I’m not Christian in the slightest but comparing the dried tangerine to Jesus feels a bit off
@@greteb1951given how much Jesus fought against corrupt government and religious officials, Trump definitely is not in any way comparable to Jesus. The problem is that all of his followers think he is 😭
@@greteb1951but his followers call him that 😢 I feel ashamed of my religion.
@@greteb1951 A self-proclaimed messiah promising salvation, but really just initiating a violent cult following?
How hard is it for people to understand there's a HUGE difference between a foreign country, who is our economic & cultural rival, collecting our data compared to a domestic one?
Cultural rival? Are you afraid you’ll get communist cooties or something? Also “economic rival” is idiotic. No country literally needs to be at the top, it doesn’t have to be a competition. The relationship can be beneficial and based on cooperation. Stop eating up dumb anti-china propaganda
It was due to the country we can’t criticize and who’s currently committing massive war crimes
I think we all collectively realized the potential risks of having any personal information on computers connected to the internet to begin with, shrugged, and embarked on a technological odyssey together fully knowing it probably doesn't end well.
There was an element of “I’m nobody, why would they bother with my data?” also.
How hasn't it ended well? Internet connectivity is one of humanity's greatest achievements. Also the "I'm nobody" argument still stands up remarkably well for all intents and purposes.
I’m glad he mentioned other social media apps do the exact same thing as TikTok. Just don’t post your whole life online and itll be that much harder for them
“TikTok poses national security risks”, laughing in Russian on X
The law as written would apply to X if 20% of the company or more is owned by a foreign country of concern.
@@Foolofatook889but it's not and I am sure Trump and Congress would make an exception for it.
Any Russian oligarch is somehow related to Putin, which means they are insiders and can threaten Elon’s business, the 20% rule does not guarantee independence of the media
That's the old way, Elon does it himself now. A study came out that the algorithm changed to favor Musk tweets and conservative-leaning tweets around the time he endorsed Trump
@@stephaniebrizard8657 How would Congress make an exception? Congress supports the law as written. That’s why TikTok is in court right now.
The most amazing phone calls in history
There's one thing I and everyone else should know for certain: when the US government says it's about national security, it isn't. There is ALWAYS an ulterior motive.
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For a reason, national security. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data if an American company has it is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
@@coltonblake13 Oh boy, wait until you learn about Santa Claus. LOL.
Ehh... depends on your definiton of national security. I assume it's harder to force Tik-Tok to add a backdoor for US intelligence than Facebook.
Most importantly, Zuck has asked Congress to ban TikTok as Meta cannot compete.
I remember a story years ago about a military base's security being compromised because of all the soldiers and staff wearing FitBits (the gps data could be used to track their locations), but i don't remember the govt demanding they be sold or dissolved or anything like that
They limit devices on sensitive sites here.
Ukraine became that sort of environment. Its a laugh in peacetime, but not when both sides have signals warfare and rocket artillery.
-The Government be like "Tik Tok bad. -Trust bro." Us: "Nah"
I was hoping you’d cover the other important reason TikTok came under fire. When Trump held a rally, and TikTok users reserved all the tickets, leaving the venue empty. That’s when Trump and the GOP began targeting TikTok. Up until that point, many GOP-promoted social issues were being effectively shared on the platform. Once Democrats realized how quickly TikTok could mobilize people outside of their control as well, the crosshairs were locked on TikTok from both sides.
Love this show!
I don’t get it though. Why tik tok? We still have RUclips, facebook, instagram, twitter 🤷🏻♀️ might as well ban all of it.
Hey now c'mon, the bruise to his ego was nearly fatal 🤣
Data collection isn't my main concern with TikTok. Algorithmically-served short-form content is an immense plague on the human mind. Machine learning systems have become exceptional at keeping your attention, especially when the content only takes a minute to consume. This has been shown to induce ADHD-like symptoms, and needless to say, has wasted hours of peoples' time. It is impossible to pack any sort of nuance into a minute of video, leading to misinformation by ommission, and every piece of information is an opinion piece with no fact-checkers. This is a far bigger problem to me than any data collection. While TikTok is not the only offender, it is the most prolific.
Feels worth noting that for all the US Tech Companies, Congress could pass new laws to regulate them and has ways to enforce those. That’s significantly more limited when a company is based elsewhere.
Did I wake up in opposite land where John is telling us something isn't as terrible as we are being told?? What's happening??
Makes you wonder what else he's totally wrong about
Yeah tiktok is actually not good and owned by a foreign adversary wtf
@@coltonblake13he thinks trans women should play in women’s sports…
@@coltonblake13- He’s not. You are. Go somewhere else, FBI agent.
Well never thought I'd see a Chris Klemens clip on John Oliver but here I am @0:25
Collab we didn't know we needed
Get him on a pilot for “dick or snake?” ASAP
Crazy times we live in
Was just about to say this 😂😂
It's not just TikTok, it's "shorts' in general. Looking at you RUclips, Facebook, and Instagram.
I just hope John's joke gets more people to watch "The Iron Giant", because that's a genuinely great movie.
Fingers crossed for a Xena revival as well.🤞🥰🤞
I needed to be near NYC for this to actually get resolved. Thank you.
Trump doesn't need TikTok. He's got his buddy Elon's X to track the exact locations of anti-Trump dissidents.
except that dissidents would just change platform
Its a good thing the left has Bluesky, its gonna work out for them, just ask Mastadon & Threads, they'll tell you
Get off Twitter. Why is anyone on there anymore?
Just delete Twitter already. 2016 election has shown Twitter is poisoning society.
Are people still on twitter? Idk anyone still on twitter
The guy who stored boxes of TOP SECRET papers ( showing them to rando guests) is back in the white house and you're worried about tick tock
5:50 - I'm a single millennial with no transportation in a small town, stuck in a toxic MI hud apt. & have been disabled since childhood. I've been begging the medical system for 15 years for the amazing freedom & quality of life a scooter would give me, but was told I basically have to be bedridden or in hospice to qualify. Since I can't even make $200 above my fixed disability that's still under $1k a month, I have no hope of saving for one myself. I've tried a GoFundMe, but as is proven by this story, ppl are vastly more willing to give someone 10x what they needed- if it's on the news or viral. I will end up nor surviving the next 4 years, and I gave up on my dream of living in a RV/camper/van, so I can experience anything at all in my life before it's over...
Daniel O'Brien putting Iron Giant jokes into things will never die.
Ran to the comments to see or say this exact thing.
You would think in 27 minutes you'd have some time to cover unintended consequences of more data privacy. Collecting and selling this data primarily for advertising purposes is why all of these platforms are free. A setting or policy to "opt out" necessarily will also have a "now you pay $5 a month" for this.
If we are so concerned with privacy, how about we start with an expectation of privacy in public spaces - no biometrics, cameras, etc unless you specifically opt in. Let people in their private decisions make their own privacy choices.
I could never forget this story because I was working in a high school at the time. I tried to present the story to my students as “I’m against this but there are legitimate concerns with TikTok” but my mentor teacher completely shut down any balanced point I tried to make 🙃
“Just trust us”. Do we trust Legislators or China (or tech) more? What a choice….
Are you insane? You’d rather trust a competitive foreign power over your own government?
The party is a paranoid dictatorship that sees any sort of social movements outside of party control as threats.
2:20 “that’s not eseptible”
Maybe it should be banned if that’s the person fighting for it
They can't even speak properly. 😢
I'm so glad there irrtated someone else this much, I was scared I was a late-born boomer xD
"I love the poorly educated"
Please try not to make fun of people's accents. It doesn't equate to being poorly educated. Linguistic diversity is beautiful and normal. Not trying to ruin anyone's fun, but it is actually an important thing.
finally an episode, that is just plain funny and not handles dire topics which i only could facepalm over with a sarcastic grin.
For a reason, national security isn't dire right? I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data if an American company has it is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
Love this show so much. Ty for all the years of great entertainment Mr. Oliver! 😊
I wish there was something better than just a “thumbs up,” for your views mixed with humor,👍🏼👊🏻👍🏼👍🏻👍🏼🤙🏼👍🏿👍🏾👍🏾👍🏽👍🏽👍👏🏻
Parent child argument: Your favorite social media platform is biased, invasive and corrosive! No, your social media platform is biased, invasive and corrosive!
Exactly
Exactly. The US government is screaming about TikTok like the incoming First Lady’s app isn’t worse
Mine doesn't collect literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok. The data, if an American company has it, is subject to our laws. Foreign governments, especially china, do not.
@@coltonblake13- Why do you continually spam these lies?
@@coltonblake13 weird - how are you posting a youtube comment then? cause google does all that and more
"Congress will not stand by and watch someone pointing a _metaphorical_ gun at Americans' heads." 😔
Google listens to us from the microphone on Androids and shows you ads based on what ever we said to people 😂😂
And so does Apple.
This isn’t true. It’s just that so much data is collected it’s easy to target you with very precise ads
Oh man I wish it wasn't, just "Google" It. We're cooked. I hope they don't take my dark humor seriously, if I ever reached a significant place 🤣🤣
I'm 40 and I hate talking on the phone.
And this is why I don't and will never use Tiktok. Also, because I don't speak dumb teenage slang and I don't possess an irrepressible need to perpetually follow my Gen Z peers like a damn sheep. Sorry, I just have a lot of pent up anger at this dumb app because it has eaten the souls of nearly every one of my friends and family members.
Amary Guichon is goated and his School of Chocolate is the best competition show on Netflix by far.
I wish Congress cared as much about FB.
Exactly!!!!! Facebook and X are both way worse
i use tiktok every day and it's better than x but worse than facebook
When he said 30 something percent of people get their news from tiktok, i suddently understood how trump won.
That wasn't tiktok. Young people use tiktok. It's older people who voted in trump.. So Facebook, RUclips etc
I don't know how someone could honestly think China wouldn't track tiktok data and they can easily do this. America and China are not friends. This unfortunately will likely become worse. Tiktok has a really great algorithm and I enjoy watching videos on it. Governments gonna govern. I wish we lived in a more democratic egalitarian place.
I’m totally against the TikTok ban and I’ve never used it.
Donald Trump trying to ban TikTok was just a 4D chess move to stop people from roasting his ‘YMCA’ dance moves!
He doesn't even realize what the song is about. His bad "dancing" knows no bounds!
Wait, there are other news sources beside Josh Johnson?
3:36 mr Oliver nailed it again... Now, back to the video.
Seems John Oliver is a sharp mind surrounded by an efficient team unlike most congressmen and senators....
How much Rule 34 Sonic content did the producers have to look at to find those 3 images?
Very good points. I think pointing out the double standard was really good here, especially when Google and FB lay so much claim to our information as well.
7 million small businesses on Tik Tok may not seem like a lot, but that's 1/5 of all small businesses in America.
Ohh shit
TikTok added just shy of $25 billion to the GDP last year… Not all those 7 million business are small either so if anything stands out to Trump saving the app it’ll be that number
To be fair, if tik tok didn't exist or was banned, those same businesses would get the same business from people using the other non-banned apps.
@@michaelf8221but it's not the case and most of those companies decide it hits more of its necessary demographic on Tic Tok.
@@michaelf8221 In the same video above that I assumed we both watched... There is a literal cattle wrangling farmer explaining how he *doesn't* get the same business from other sources that he does from TikTok. So no, I don't think they would.
And the reason for that is simple: they didn't see the cow for sale on YT or X or BlueSky. They saw it on TikTok. Different algo, different distribution, and TikTok's algo is built on selling and advertising products.
Unlike YT, whose model is to appeal to the advertisers. The advertisers are still trying to sell, but YT isn't trying to sell for them in the same way. The platforms aren't actually samey enough for what you say to be true.
Great research as always
Can we just ban TikTok because 20 people using it at the grocery store with no headphones at full volume is really annoying?
Even if we kill TikTok, someone else will create the next app and the stupidity will continue. Hell, it’s already bleeding onto Instagram
@@DoodleThis fuck Instagram and Meta in general as well
truu
My favorite part is everybody on tiktok forgot because they have the attention span of a goldfish 😂
23:13 yeah I remember when the PATRIOT Act was just to “Keep Americans safe from terrorists” and then we ended up finding out it was just for the government to SPY on us without a warrant, and the backlash of that being public will always make me laugh. Congress members were screaming safety, safety, safety but most of America was having non of it
John's impersonation of obnoxious teenaged girls just keeps getting better and better XD
Some spent their time during the pandemic on Tiktok while others were playing Animal Crossing. What a time it was..
While others watched Tiger King.
Me? I watched Kamen Rider and Ultraman while playing Dragon Quest and starting a garden. I always seem to be the odd one.
Kernel level anti cheat software in video games are doing more damage than TikTok ever can.
X is South African OWNED, and no one is saying anything
Thank you for your service, Mr Oliver and Team.