HUGE Lawsuit After Sheriff Detains His Paperboy
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EDIT: My apologies. I learned of the lawsuit after this episode was written. That's why it wasn't included in the episode. Here's a link to the lawsuit for those who are interested: bit.ly/3hPXpI7
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Top channel mate.
Yep huge fans here!
Thanks for your well done work.
I will definitely need your services sooner or later.
I don't agree with your Tacoma police grade. I feel they arrived an although where polite, where more concerned with believing the "black man" was in the wrong and blindly believe the report from the first "officer" on scene.
@@EagleSMK Agreed. Also where is the bodycam footage of them talking to the off duty cop?
False reporting needs to be a much bigger crime
You are not wrong
If you are speaking about Police reporting it is the same as lying under oath. Happens in almost every occasion. Bet your ass if it was you or me lying under oath we would be in jail they don't even get a slap on the wrist
I disagree. Anyone can be incorrect but punishment for being accidentally incorrect will cause people from reporting at all thus making crime rise.
Part of the reason why police unions need to be abolished.
@@secretsquirrel572 if you dont have the correct informatiin you shouldnt call
They called 40 officers for a guy delivering newspapers, that’s insane.
Well they did it due to the false report but yeah
An officer said his life was in danger, so yeah, everyone is showing up. Especially when it’s the boss.
His job should be in danger but it probably isn’t
no they called "40 officers" becasue as far as they were aware a life was at risk
He was trying to get this guy merked.
"Do you see how calm I am?"
Yeah, cuz you're not the one being falsely accused and threatened with handcuffs!
“You guys need to walk him home, follow him home, he needs help, he needs assistance.” 😂😂😂 Favorite part 👏🏼
Hahaha loved this part!
A cop bringing a false report, against a working man, regardless of his skin color, should be pursued by the law to the letter. They are making the victim, the suspect. These cops shouldn't even be left in charge of guarding a garbage can. They are trying to exonerate the Sheriff on the spot.
its a hate crime nothing less
Against ANY man I wouldn't care even if the guy never worked a day in his life.
Exactly. If we only focus on the race, it stays the focus, these dude's need to be fired and charged.
@IamMike86 lol since when does a racial slur need to be used for a hate crime to be committed? If you commit a crime against someone, because of their race, then it’s a hate crime… lol your logic here is crazy.
This sheriff should certainly lose his job, and maybe even face legal consequences. But I certainly don't believe this was a hate crime. If anyone could provide evidence as to why they believe it was, it would be appreciated.
I love when cops don’t understand why people are mad for being harassed for no reason and then act like they’re hostile.
They purposely use psychological tactics to Distress people so they can make up a case. My grandpa left law enforcement because of the dishonesty
This!!!
I think in this situation that the officer is attempting to de-escalate with limited training.
Yeah seriously it's like you can't ever win with them ...
Why is he hostle against the cop tho.
A false report should be held as more serious. They need to fired that so-called sheriff. He's actually a menace to society.
Sheriff charged but found not guilty on all charges. What a joke.
The sheriff needs to be fired. If he's lying about this then everything he does on a daily basis is under scrutiny.
Needs to be charged. Saying something like that could get someone killed.
You can't fire an elected official.
The sherriff swatted another human being and that should be tantamount to making a death threat.
But considering when governor Rick perry was asked why 75% of black males on death row had been exonerated, most posthumously, if he thought they need to revise their policy, he stated, "no, I'd kill them all over again"
@@cousinfester4621tf? yes u can
@@cousinfester4621 They can be fired tho... It's called impeachment.
That sheriff could have gotten that innocent man shot. And they wonder why the guy is upset.
They don't see him as a human being, so they couldn't care less about his life.
@@violettfem5093 Not only that, but the stain of suspicion can actually negatively effect a person's life even after they are exonerated. I remember the Atlanta bombing for the Olympics. They suspected the guy who discovered the bomb, and started to clear people out, of being the one to place the bomb, trying to become a hero. The bombing took place in July, and it wasn't until October that he was exonerated. But his life was irrevocably changed, and many people never really paid attention to who was really responsible.
A life is at risk. 40 cops surrounding a guy on a paper route!!!!! No one was killed. ***That’s just a fortunate outcome***
Thats the part. Weaponizing 911. He told the police the man threatened to kill him for fucks sake!
@@CEOGaming82 yet they de escalated the situation. They calmed down the man. The sherriff is the one that youre supposed to be angry with. Those cops did their job and found out that the sherriff was lying and almost got a man hurt. The whole ACAB nonsense doesnt apply, that is bandwagoning and hatred,even when good cops like them do their job properly.
I absolutely hate when police say things like, “we’re treating you nice, it’s not like we came in hot”
I’ve recently viewed multiple videos where cops act like they are doing you a favor, by not attacking you. The illegal detainment in and of itself is in fact an attack.
FORTY cops?!?!? Jesus 😳 That is absolutely ridiculous.
Caller was a cop who claimed someone threatened his life. Sheriff knew damn well dispatch would prioritize that call and send all available units. And he probably told them "a Black guy is threatening to kill me!"
I hope the sheriff never received his paper…
And tells me that there are to many bloody cops for that jurisdiction!
Don’t overlook the fact that the sheriff was trying to get this man murdered by lying about being threatened.
Such a lowly bitch move but so common of officers and karens
and next thing we shot because we THOUGHT he had a gun,when did it go from protect and serve,,, to beat, maim and kill ,WHEN????
He MOST DEFINITELY WAS! NO doubt about that! He was hoping one of his psycho officers would have pulled the trigger and kill this hard working man.
@@artsawyer9001 yeah, when it is a b man.
💯
The SHERIFF needs to lose his job for LIEING to the police !!!! WE ALL WOULD BE CHARGED!!!!!
This shows what would happen in a case he is running
“Lieing”
L Y I N G
Lying!
@@thomasspringer5738 LYEING
Acquitted of all charges, corrupt system
That poor guy was only doing his JOB. Way to go Deputy DAWG ! You called out the entire police force in town. Hope you never live that one down back at the station 🤣
If anyone BUT a cop (or other government worker) turned in a false police report, WE would be punished harshly. A cop, on the other hand, just gets a slap on the wrist, if anything.
I have a serious gout attack. I hurts like hell. I was scolded for calling an ambulance because I can't walk to the hospital. I can't even come down the stairs without assistance.
I am a firefighter at the same department. If I would do shit like this sheriff I would be out.
@@goofyrulez7914 Ex-Cop was probably privately congratulated by some neighbors for making the guy feel unwelcome in the neighborhood.
And it looks like most of them stayed! They got the guy out of the car and it's clear he doesn't have a weapon so there's no reason 90% can't go back to what they were doing.
@@miconis123 - cops are thieves... at the very least, they steal our time.
Before people judge him for being irate, try having 40 cops roll up on you and remain calm.
Again.💀
Still, staying calm is the best way to go
100%
@@reneiscool22 Agreed. It's just such an unusual situation that is easier said than done.
Being irate only escalates the bully mentality of the pigs. Hit 'em where it hurts, and humiliate them in court and public media..
Imagine if the sheriff had his story straight. If he didn’t contradict himself, cedrick would have been arrested and thrown through the system. This is gross
Hey Garret S...that cop used the 911system to have him shot or killed deliberately.
The sheriff is lucky its only $5000000
Gross, is an understatement.
And it happens every day. And these assholes, who ruin people's lives for amusement, can't even remember a person who they cost money, a job, a relationship, employability, their freedom, their rights, because they don't give a rat's ass about the real life effects of their callous, corrupt, criminal behavior. With impunity.
What happened to the $5,000,000 lawsuit from the thumbnail?
@@daBEAGLE1017 There was no $5million, it was clickbait. This guy does that in EVERY VIDEO
They need to fire him immediately, this is ridiculous behavior.
This hits home, I had a paper route and got stopped many times for “acting suspicious and trust-passing “. I was wearing a bright reflective vest and orange hat too. And they said ooh your acting suspicious in the dark.
Sherriff's decision to lie on a innocent man shows a" Dangerous" character flaw.
It shows true USA. Be real and call it what it is
true USA? GFYS
but this mostly happens only in the USA
@@Syhntax because the US is mostly corrupt? laughable child.
@@seanroark6121 corrupt from the top down
The cop should be sacked, and every case he ever worked on re-examined. How many times has he lied? This is not going to be the first time.
Doubt it’s only the 100th either
What credibility he has left in court now? What lawyer woludn't start his cross-examination with the words "did you, on January 27 2021,..."
Don't think you can "fire" a sheriff as it's a elected office.
All of them lie all the time.
He was just elected to Sheriff in Nov 2020, prior to that he was the Pierce County Sheriff spokesperson so he doesn’t have any cases to re-examine.
He was found not guilty by Jury, forget him, investigate that Jury under a microscope.
40 officers. Do you know who pays for all that taxpayers. What a waste of money
Fukin police state bs
This is *not* a case of a "misunderstanding." The sheriff knew exactly what he was doing.
Totally agree. It is just like a woman claiming child abuse when a man tries to get child custody. It happens all the time and her lies have zero consequence so she does it.
They are so used to harassing people it is just normal for them.
Can't help but wonder if the police were so reasonable because they knew just what their Sherriff was like and weren't going to get dragged into his BS
@@cooldog60 facts
@@SPACEMAN70000 Yep!
"We racially profiled you, but it's just a misunderstanding" LOL
The only one who racially profiled was the Sherrif, as far as I saw all the other cops were cool and understanding
@@winterfell9990 the fuck they were. If they were being chill they would have handled this quicker. They r behind their sheriff all the way
Then why was he still detained even though he wasn’t arrested and was told hat happened? Clown
Some [insert your text here] just desperately try to Manufacture Consent. You can only be intimidated if you give your consent. Stay free, p. R 🍻 😎
@@stephaniemedina7017 because there's a difference between an arrest and investigatory detention... Don't call people clowns when you have no idea what you're talking about
Wow 40 responses, what a waste of public resources. The off duty pos needs to be charged with false reporting and the fake threats could've led to bodily harm of the victim .
That sheriff disrupted an entire neighborhood...because a man was delivering papers
There's no way a sheriff followed this guy without knowing that he was delivering papers.
Ikr! Certified jackass fr
hear hear!
natural police
didnt care, was a "bucket" in the "wrong" area, cops view people in crap cars/cloths/etc, as targets regrardless of race... i know from personal exp on this...
He must have seen the papers being thrown through the window 🤔🤔
I love how cops act like false accusations don't warrant being annoyed. Tyrant.
I hate that shit. It's 100% understandable to get upset when someone makes up some dumb shit and the cops contact. I guess they want you to say
"Hey, I get it. He lied but it's ok. I'm not upset"
@@kitten-whisperer and even if they have used that to violate your rights or are trying to bully you because they believed your guilt before they showed up, they still expect you be chill. Like this is my life, my freedom, my future you're messing with and allowing this man to set me up to ha e the government perform violence on me. I would be L I V I D in his shoes. Like cmon.
Cops feel unsafe when a single person with a camera stands near ten cops, but ten cops with guns and cuffs and qualified immunity isn't supposed to male you feel threatened. Smh
@@ksbans1 calm down Russian boi lol.
@@meilyn22 😢😭😟
@JP McQuack "They should cooperate" "side to the story"
Kindly bugger all the way off.
Your opinion of police is based off of emotion. Mine is empirical evidence and case law. We are not the same.
If you dont want somebody to drive up to your house with a newspaper, then dont order a fucking newspaper.
My best friend is black and has told me that being from Arkansas, he saw so much racism from the police. It was hard to believe because he's a great citizen, works, raises his kids, has his own place and doesn't live off any assistance. But now that I'm watching these videos😢 my heart breaks for a man trying to work, he's not dealing drugs or stealing and he's treated as such. Disgusting!! No wonder why my friend tells me that racism still exists.... Not all cops are bad, they need to have better handling of things.
Why was it hard to believe? Do you think he was lying? Why would a "great citizen" lie about being harassed by police?
@@jegsh4299 it was hard to believe in a way because where I lived at the time, racism was not an issue to my knowledge and it was shocking. Not meant literally that I didn't believe him because he's my best friend but meant I'm shocked in way that this still can happen in certain areas. Don't get all jumbled 😉 but I do believe that there's good cops.
@@angel4u272 Anyone who volunteers to enforce unjust laws cannot possibly be a just person.
My blood boiled and felt so outraged watching this . Here was a hard working man , trying to earn a living who’s civil rights were violated. This was a dirty stunt that could’ve costed that man his life or jail .
Pretty much the same thing as "swatting"
he needs to control his anger. even if the stop/call was unjustified, there is no reason to freak out like that. he can settle it in a much better way by not acting like a moron.
@@Bonestripper1986 Motor paper routes have been around for decades. It’s not taking a child’s job. This may be a residential area but once outside the neighborhood, it could be very rural. A child isn’t going to walk miles to the next delivery. Nor should they. To be a walking paper route, all recipients of the newspaper must live close together. Like I said, it may look like that here, but it could a rural area once leaving the housing addition. A newspaper carrier could have anywhere from 500 to 2000 customers who need their paper before 6am. It is very hard work. No matter who is doing it. My mother had a motor paper route for years while I was growing up. I know this firsthand. I hope this helps.
Cost, not costed. I do agree with your assessment.
@@TK-tcbk1 My friend's aunt did the same thing after her husband suffered a stroke. And like you said, it's not something you can do on a bicycle. Also, there's no shame in any kind of honest work.
If the sheriff lied here I would look into every arrest this officer had and never rely on his testimony in court.
Sadly they continue to lie and worse are believed.
FUwaCOMMIES
Isn't sheriff an elected office?
You are totally right 👍👍👍
@@politereminder6284 Yes.
It is extremely unlikely the sheriff was unable to comprehend what is happening while watching the victim deliver newspapers to every ingle household...
That mofo should be in prison for lying to 911!!! Unbelievable
The minute that the sheriff lied that’s it. He needs to be fired and never be in law enforcement of any type nation wide.
Cops can legally lie to a suspect they are interrogating. But if you lie while being interrogated, it is bad news.q
Fired by who, he's an elected official.
@@stash4945 elected officials can be fired…
@@crissd8283 He was not being interrogating thought was he? The cop made a false report.
worldwide*
Sad to see that such liars are sheriffs. Most disturbing and disgusting.
Cameras are slowly changing that....
@@Al-Gore-ithm we need live streaming ones that go straight to a public site that people get paid to monitor
@@Northern_LAD and to add to that it should be illegal for cops to turn body cameras off and also unlawful to redact FOIA requests.
@@Northern_LAD You can watch Sheriff Bob Fletcher every Friday night on RUclips. He tries to do a second day during the week. His RUclips channel is call Live on Patrol.
@@thomasj3701 damn for real? Thanks man I’ll check that out 👊🏼
I give audit the audit a C- for your analysis. The paper delivery man asked if he was under arrest or free to go. The response was not “ no sir, I need you to stay here because I’m conducting an investigation”. No it was “you are not leaving right now, do you want me to put you in handcuffs”. Appears Audit the Audit gives an “A” to cops who like to intimidate people rather than explain the legal situation. Glad you aren’t my attorney.
You can still be detained while not under arrest. He never asked if he was detained.
I threw papers for years. I got pulled over several times. Every single time the cop shined a light and saw the papers, they didn't even make it to my driver's window before they said "Nevermind. Have a good night. "
I had a few follow me for a bit, but as soon as they saw the papers being thrown out the window, they went to find someone else to bother.
I like how he’s being DETAINED and the guy who called in a false report is free to leave…. And you expect him to be calm. There’s like 40 cops for a guy working… WOW
@@idrizzyt7524
The video reports that over 40 officers show up, high(est) priority.
@@idrizzyt7524 bro looking at the video is where ur wrong LOL go do some research before speaking pls 😂
The responding officers talked to the sheriff too. He wasn't free to leave. They were both detained pending the investigation of the alleged threat to murder the sheriff.
@@idrizzyt7524 dude I think you got owned 🤣
@@idrizzyt7524 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I like how they "allow" people to leave....
Point of fact, my grandfather owned a newspaper distributorship and I often ran motor routes during my summers home from college. My grandfather was old school and insisted on EVERY paper bring left on the porch or by the front door - at least by his grandson (or his children, when they were younger, my mother tells me). The fact that he was pulling into driveways tells me that he was trying to give his customers the best service he could - because most carriers I've ever had were lucky to have gotten the paper over the sidewalk into the driveway. This man DID NOT deserve this racial profiling b.s.
The sheriff was just trying to give this man 5 million dollars, so he doesn't have to deliver papers anymore... That's all...
He has a heart of gold..💛💛💛
😂
He was trying to put him 6 feet under
Not funny shit for brains they could've killed an innocent man for the dumbass sheriff's malicious 911 call
@@uzumakihinataAOH you’re right, it’s not funny. It’s hilarious 😂
The “sheriff” thought little Tommy delivered his paper on a bicycle each morning.
When I saw the title of the RUclips video, I was actually expecting to see "little Tommy" being detained. I'd hardly call this guy a "paperboy". He's a paper delivery man. I suppose that would have been too cumbersome as a title for a video.
Last time a saw a paper boy riding a bicycle delivering papers was in the 1960’s. This Sheriff is a racist man. Period.
@@dphotos007 Hey, I delivered papers in the 70s & 80s while riding my bike but, 85% of the time I was acually roller skating. Oh yeah, & I was a paper girl. Lol I knew each & every customer, where they wanted that paper, etc... The best part was the amazing Christmas tips. I started that paper route when I was about
7 yrs old. Nowadays, it's so sad, Nobody can let kids out of their sight so we don't see kids delivering the papers anymore.
@@goldierule1350 Here is Southern California by the 70’s in my area at least the papers were started to be delivered by car. Since the internet home paper deliveries have really dropped in number of houses getting the paper.
Sheriffs idea of the american dream crumbled that night
UPDATE: Sheriff Troyer was released pending trial on October 31st but that was revoked and he had to post a $100,000 bond because he did not keep his distance from Sedrick Altheimer but instead followed him and flashed his lights. Got aquitted on all charges.
Nothing to figure out. Once they found out he’s delivering papers, they should’ve left. Why keep him for an hour
That whole situation makes no sense, they should have sent the paper guy on his way, with an apology immediately.
Yep but they had to make it look like they were the reasonable ones while asking him why he's upset to furthered provoke him. That way he can possibly snap on them and give them justification to do x, y, and z to him and pin the entire situation on him and not the pos cop
No, they should have taken his statement to support the arrest and subsequent prosecution of the sheriff!
@@ytho95 Exactly!!
@@ytho95 precisely!!
Gotta show that solidarity with a fellow cop! The "thin blue line" includes the bad cops, too, you know.
Which is, of course, why people don't trust police.
That Sheriff really should go to prison for at least a year. He purposefully drew in a response that could have gotten a totally innocent man killed.
Making false claims in a 911 call has gotten innocent people shot on sight. This was attempted murder by cop
Abuse of power. I can’t stand cops like this. My dad was a plumber at one point and he went to a clients house who happened to be a police officer. The police officer was upset that his warranty wouldn’t cover the damage because he had someone else try to fix it (standard policy). The police officer searched my fathers name a found an old drug possession charge. He called my dads boss and said “I am a cop and you hire criminals!! I am going to let everyone know that hire criminals!” Nearly got my father fired for just doing his job. Can’t stand officers who abuse their power.
This young man was very fortunate that he came away from that incident with his life. The Sheriff deserves jail time. Not protected jail time-general population jail time.
Jussie Smollett only got 150 days for basically trying to start a race war by staging a hate crime and repeatedly lying to the police. Not sure the ex sheriff needs a year.
Not only that, it's possible that one of those 40 officers could have missed saving someone else's life on another call.
When FORTY cops show up for something, that will tell you how too many extra cops they have on duty
Sheriff should be in jail right now, falsely accusing someone and calling 911 operator lying to to them.
That cop needs to be thrown off the force and prosecuted.
Bit hard as he is in a voted role
Won't happen. Always protect their own. Kind of surprised they didn't kill the black guy. I mean, that pos sherriff was trying his hardest to get him killed.
If he was fired could just move county and or another state an still get the same job.
As a judge, I would question every report this cop ever wrote, and would treat any and all testimony from him as false until proven otherwise. It's called "Credibility," and a proven liar can never have any by default. That's the price of chosing to lie, and that should disqualify someone from being suitable for service automagically.
He is a sheriff voted in by the people
He's too stupid to realize that this poor guy was just out delivering newspapers, yet somehow he's qualified to be a sheriff. Really makes you think. I hope this guy wins a mountain of cash and never has to think of another newspaper.
No,he is not stupid,he is racist and a cop and have other cops who are on his side and harassin that poor papreboy instead of detain and arrest their colleague.
He should pay any setlement,to work for that boy for the rest of his life and every morning when he get to work,to remember that he is working for him.
It's unfortunate that said mountain of cash would ultimately come at the expense of tax-paying citizens while the sheriff would walk away with a slap on the wrist.
@@alexallex7722 Man, Washington is the real Dixie Land. Honest. Racists everywhere
He's in his own neighborhood and likely has seen the man before. Maybe he thinks dude was boning his wife or something
Take him being Sheriff up with the community he was supposed to serve because they are an elected official.
So much respect for this man, it's unbelievable what's happening in North America
This sheriff needs voted out of office. This man is clearly not qualified to be running a police department.
The sheriff had been out drinking . I find it hard to believe the officers didn't smell the alcohol on him . That's why they let the guy go 💥💥
Yep.
Really?? That's what the sheriff was doing??
@@raymondmejias8071 - Yes! because ol' Bubbasmith knows everything!
@@BigWallyFilms youd be surprised how many cops are impaired without knowledge
@@BigWallyFilms actually, Troyer has a history of hiding his patrol car and getting smashed at the bar.
Troyer has been indicted on two misdemeanor counts: false report and providing a false statement to police. The sheriff will be responsible for his own legal fees after city council voted against paying his legal fees. He also broke several policies for law enforcement. A number of responding officers were officially reprimanded for either not wearing body cams or “forgetting” to turn them on. Troyer pleaded not guilty to the charges. People from pierce county want him removed from office. This is as of the last week of October 2021.
That’s good - exactly what should have happened (although ideally the cops should have immediately arrested him for filing a false report when it became obvious there was no threat and he had lied).
thanks for the follow up!
I thought getting upset or emotional couldn't be used against you ? Seems like a great guy who was rightfully mocking his arrest. Should have have been released in 2 minutes. Possibly causing a hard working guy to lose his job.
Thanks for the update/info 👍
@Ck Jenks Get out of here. The Pierce County Council directly contradicts you. Their own investigation damns Troyer. Troyer's own statements damn him. How is it politically motivated when his own words are irreconcilable? Here is an excerpt from the investigate report by the Pierce County Council:
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Sheriff Troyer told the 911 operator that Mr. Altheimer “threatened to kill me” and “wants to kill me.” These statements were made close in time to when they were allegedly uttered by Mr. Altheimer and when the precise words used would be easiest to recall and repeat by Sheriff Troyer to the 911 dispatcher. Minutes later, however, when interviewed by TPD Officer Lawless, Sheriff Troyer contradicted the statements he made on the 911 call:
“I specifically asked 01/Troyer if O2/Altheimer ever made threats toward him or displayed any weapons. 01/Troyer advised O2/Altheimer never threatened him and he did not observe O2/Altheimer with any weapons. 01/Troyer described that when he confronted O2/Altheimer at the listed address it was clear he, “wanted to fight.”
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During the call to dispatch: "threatened to kill me" and "wants to kill me"
During an interview /minutes later/: "never threatened"
Stop defending someone who was clearly breaking the law. Troyer's statements about that night have changed multiple times. He is shamelessly lying and now trying to save his ass because he dug his hole too deep.
I used to go to work really early in the AM for years...and newspaper people are always out and everywhere at that time...some drive on the opposite side or weave around a lot...
How can cops "FIGURE ANYTHING OUT"?
Can’t lie. I’ve pulled over the paper guy at 4am. Saw his papers APOLOGIZED TO HIM and we shook hands and went about our business. The next week my partner attempts to pull him over, I recognize the VD and tag and told him OVER THE RADIO that’s the paper man, leave him be. That’s about as far as this needed to go. Jesus Christ.
your part of the problem too
Fuck the commenter above me.
Thanks for protecting and serving.
@@shaystern2453 How?
Honest question- u seem like an officer that does what's right- if u were called to this scene, how would u have handled it? Serious question, not a smart ass remark. I just wonder how else this could've been handled.
@@shaystern2453 actually, assuming all are bad is part of the problem. Him doing the right thing when others are not is fighting the problem. I pray for u.
Troyer lied on the 911 call big time. He needs to be prosecuted and to lose his position. He sounded paranoid and mentally unstable in the 911 call.
The narrator pointed out that the individual could be targeted for civil action. He ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY should be sued by the victim.
Drunk, maybe?
Since the sheriff is elected, a felony conviction is pretty much the only thing that could force him from office. I don't know whether making a misleading 9-1-1 call is a felony.
I bet he was intoxicated?&their good'ol boy's in WA,the thin blue line thug's protect each other.
Prob drunk
Paper man, not paper boy! 😂
That guy needs to be put in jail for calling in a false call and should be stripped of badge and pension.
America, the easiest place to hire a hitman. Just call 911 with false claims and accusations.
Whew sad, true n 😟 scary
Let it be known: that is in fact a crime, specially if you're not a cop
Get the ---- out with that hyperbole
And it would be paid for by the taxpayers.
Paid by taxes...
Only thing that needs sorting out is taking the sheriff to jail
Love your show,, thank you for your very wise content 💜
im so glad i pay taxes for cops that waste time harassing a newspaper guy
He basically SWATted him. He's a LEO, and knows exactly what he was doing, and what could have happen. Murder by cop. This criminal sheriff needs to be prosecuted.
Yeah, I get the feeling that the sheriff wanted the police to roll in and shoot the "suspect" out of hand and then everyone gets their stories straight. Fortunately the Tacoma PD officers didn't do that. I would have given the police an A- at best.
I think the guy is actually a Sagittarius ♐️
@@ProffesorChaosesFile 🙄
I love how they always try to act like the guy mad about being harassed and intimidated is being unreasonable.
"Look at me. You see how calm I am?" Yeah youre not being harrased you dumbass haha
He is trying to get the guy to say something that will justify the sheriffs actions so he won't be accused of racial profiling
Exactly
@@diyonisis7790
Yeah, everyone is out to get you.
@@Psyrecx not everybody just the ones that don't like you because of what you are and not who you are
Not only the lying, but if that Sheriff followed him around and didn’t observe that he was delivering papers, I wouldn’t trust his observation skills in any situation.
Here in Denmark you can go to jail for false 911 calls.
Sheriff can't deduce that he was doing a paper route, the sheriff needs to be fired, he's inept.
I agree.
The two need to trade places.
The guy delivering newspapers is trustworthy enough, to serve the community as an honest sherriff ...
and, the sherriff is barely qualified to deliver newspapers.
Its going be hard. It will have to be up to the courts to make that call. Depending on the severity of the charges.
@@markspencer9743 hey I don’t trust that cop not to steal a package off my porch or launch a paper through a window
"Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."
- Miranda
What they fail to mention is that NOTHING you say will be used TO HELP you in a court of law.
"Law" is so loosely used now. Title 18 Section 15 US code 241 and 242 has never been challenged to my knowledge. Hence, how CAN there be courts of "law"? Food for thought 🙃
ofc it does, giving a reasonable explanation of your actions is sometimes to your benefit, as this channel has explained many times before
also that remaining silent without explicitly saying you are exercising your right to remain silent, can be construed in court as guilt.
@@patricktrimble7954 Exactly. You need to explicitly invoke your right to remain silent, and DEMAND (not ask) Assistance of Counsel for your defence (ie, a lawyer).
@@davevanlaren2501 According to the rules of Evidence self serving statements are hearsay and do not fall into any of the hearsay exceptions. Thus, self serving statements are usually not allowed in a court of law. Admission of guilt statements fall under the hearsay exceptions and are admissible.
I loved his sarcasm
This poor guy!!! The cop that showed up is condescending… nothing happened prompted this ridiculous interaction and this guy has a right to be Highly Upset!!!!
"We need to figure out what's going on." How many times have I heard that excuse for fishing?
Yup..we can see this is all a misunderstanding but we are going to run you through the system anyway..we might get lucky and find a warrant on you.
Every video you've viewed on this channel, at least.
"There is no body-camera footage of Troyer’s conversation with Lawless because the officer forgot to grab the camera off the charger in his rush to respond." Yeah, sure.
More like he was coming home from the bar drunk
Same with the other 30+ officers. ATA said 40 officers were responding. Good to know only one was working I feel safe.
@@goodcitizen6190 did you mishear that? There’s not even 40 officers on 1 shift
@@jamesdoakes4956 No it would seem you did, 2:38 it is directly implied that 40 officers from various agencies responded in various capacities to the scene
@@jamesdoakes4956 You're the one that's wrong, there was indeed 40+ cops that responded to this "scene" from two locales and that fact was then confirmed by the police departements themselves. The video clearly states it, aswell as reports in local news.
Dont know if you were trying hard to lick an hypothetical boot or whatnot, but it's just impossible to with a straight face in this case man, get a grip.
So peaceful, respectful, and calming to threaten to handcuff someone for nothing
As a resident the TPD. Good job Tacoma. You make me proud. And i NEVER thought I would ever say that about any police!
This is practically a textbook case of "SWAT-ting" by the sheriff. It is extremely fortunate that this didn't turn into a deadly confrontation.
Sheriff MUST be removed from office. And prosecuted.
First thing I thought...
Absolutely.
@@cliffordross7997 I believe it was definitely racially motivated. I've seen how people of color are treated differently even in my small town.
100 percent, only thing it would have took is one of the officer's to shot this man for no reason.
It makes you wonder how many other times have the sheriff “embellished” on reports 🤔
Just about every arrest report he ever made since he became a cop…
I'm just a little curious why he was off duty and up and ready to follow someone at 2 in the morning.. I feel like he was drunk
The moment that badge got put on them it's part of their career. I guarantee you there are more reports that are embellished and lied on then that are actually correct
@@africacarey agreed
@@stephengrigg5988 He most likely was or at least on his way home from the bar but also, he's THE Sheriff, not just some deputy.
My guy could’ve been a lost Uber eats driver 😂
So a racist cop falsely accused a black man of threatening his life and well being, and we as a society are just ok with that. The paper boy should be given a A++. Also, if the paper boy would’ve called 911 first and reported a suspicious vehicle following him while he was performing his job, I highly doubt the responding officers would’ve believed the paper boy once they found out that the stalker was a fellow officer.
Maybe he wasn't a racist- perhaps he was just an asshole. That kind of thing does happen to white people, too ya know. I've had it happen to me.
I almost choked on my cereal laughing when he said FORTY officers. America is in the mud
They show out in force to protect their own gang
It's been in the mud since the germans and skkandanavians and french showed up.
@@Dev-In-Denver123 oh right, a specific race is to blame for the corruption in the police force
@@Dev-In-Denver123 lol your ultra ultra old school American racism is refreshing. Damn Mickey's and Whops man.
@@Dev-In-Denver123 3-2-1……and it’s about race!
Wow! Is it possible the sheriff is insane? Perhaps medicated? Oh no! It’s always about race! Smh
my mans literally told that he's being investigated for delivering newspapers.
Hello are you a private investigator? i need to you to investigate my privates
Qualified Immunity + Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. (1968) = Totalitarian Tyranny
@J B I was harassed being white in a black neighborhood. We are all not special snowflakes people. Everyone has to deal with shit.
@@Richmondthefish, but did you ever have someone call the cops on you and then get harassed by cops for being a white guy in a black neighborhood?
@@MSH786 They didn't have to call the cops. Cops assumed I was a drug buyer because I was in a black area and harassed me. Racist profiling on white people. Now what happens? Should I get a large sum of money?
The 10 sec skip feature is my friend when the guy starts explaining the law to us.
"misunderstanding after a sheriff said "he threatened to kill me"
The man settled for $500,000. The cop was charged and found not guilty of false reporting and false report to a public servant.
What’s funny is that if someone threatened to kill me only 1 cop shows up 3 hours later. But someone threatened a cop and the whole department shows up….. apparently the citizens lives aren’t worth as much as cops.
Cop: look how calm I'm speaking...
Paperworker: you got 40 cops surrounded me.
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Cops arent the brightest to begin with. Additionally they have an ingrained superiority complex. If he had an inch of understanding he would totally be like. Hey, I would be mad as hell too. But he is another idiot with a gun.
Paper BOY???
@@bettywashington6956 "Paperworker"
@@bettywashington6956 Paper Man
The sheriff actually put his life in jeopardy...if they had arrived believing he was about to kill the sheriff he could have been shot on the spot
Great point and so very true!
So they would believe he ( paperman)is about to kill the Sherrif by sitting in his car when the police approached? I think it was clear to the police that the delivery driver was not going to kill the Sherrif.
@@paunchouspilot6757 telling cops someone is *threatening to end your life with a deadly weapon* is inherently putting their life in danger and I don’t know how you can’t see that
The point of him calling the police is to deal with the black person in his neighborhood. Before bodycameras that deliveryman would have disappeared when the death squads got called in.
@@paunchouspilot6757 SO the paper guy gets out the car starts shouting at the caller runs up to the car as the cops arrive believing the man has a deadly weapon and is attempting to murder the caller. Can see how easily this would go south
this is like kevin from the office realizing that the paper boy is actually a guy in a car and not some 10 year old on a bike.
If he had remained silent he would have been arrested....
Perhaps the most troubling fact of this encounter is that Troyer said he'd do it again.
Well maybe that next traffic stop or domestic run will catch up with him.
Racists don’t care this is nothing to them if the law allowed it they do far worse biggest cowards
Trying to figure out what? They determined he wasn’t doing anything wrong, but continued the harassment.
They needed to at least attempt to justify the response to a false emergency call by following up on it due to how egregious the alleged offense was and who it was made to.
Trying to figure out if there's any possible way to arrest the innocent victim.
@@singaporesammy okay calm down. These officers were just doing their job, they didn’t know the sheriff had lied.
imagine a sheriff who doesn't know that it's possible someone can be deliverying newspapers early in the morning
Sheriff Ed Troyer was acquitted of all charges!
I felt his frustration in my soul. I hope he gets paid.
Oh he will. I have a friend in insurance and one of his clients came in with a $60k car to insure it. Turns out the cops shot at him in his own home. Turns out they got the wrong house. $1.5M pay out
5m dollar lawsuit
I hope he doesn’t settle, because this is easily a multi million dollar case. That officer straight up lied and the confusion could’ve easily led to him losing his life. Easily!
@@DrakeDaraitis and who is paying for it?
@Kevin B 5 million. Take off legal costs, jury gives a lower amount, any appeals, and whatnot... maybe a million.
Found not guilty for false reporting. What a joke.