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Babylon 5 - Ivanova: Death Incarnate (Season 4, Episode 19 - Between the Darkness and the Light)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
  • A great scene from the best show ever on television - Babylon 5!
    This scene features Claudia Christian as Commander Susan Ivanova, and Jason Carter as Ranger Marcus Cole.
    Hopefully, someday, Babylon 5 will get an HD makeover. We can dream, right?

Комментарии • 697

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech 2 года назад +78

    God - "Look, I don't remember sending anyone, but if Ivonava says I sent her, then I sent her!"

  • @CrazyIvanovich1
    @CrazyIvanovich1 3 года назад +761

    People who think this delivery is bad don’t get her character. She spent her entire life suppressing emotion because it could give away her latent ability. She started out with the solemn vow that she’d climb the ranks based on total steadfast excellence and she DID. The series shows how that breaks down. First with her dads death then Talia and then Marcus. To this point where she inside wants to scream but the internal controls are fighting every word. That’s why this is so cool. It’s the breaking point. “Who is this?” “Who am I?” Back to the Vorlon question. And she lets go. It’s pure emotion adrenaline pouring out like a waterfall and it’s all she can do to keep words together because she HAS TO. she’s the commander of the white star fleet here. She can’t stumble. She can’t crack her voice. So she says very plainly and very slowly that these aggressors are about to die. And she pushes all of that resistance straight to her face. It’s one of the most human scenes in this show that’s already full of so many

    • @annertman7762
      @annertman7762 3 года назад +48

      I thought she was perfect.

    • @davidbrouwers7309
      @davidbrouwers7309 3 года назад +72

      People who think this is bad don't get B5 period.

    • @ernestotorres247
      @ernestotorres247 3 года назад +36

      I agree. This was the most moving speech I have ever heard... I am death incarnate ....was amazing

    • @willowfrog33
      @willowfrog33 3 года назад +18

      This may be my absolute favorite scene ever.

    • @samsung3254
      @samsung3254 3 года назад +35

      @@willowfrog33 @Hem A'royd For myself, it's a tie with Delenn's confrontation. The same chills!

  • @allynflinchbaugh4570
    @allynflinchbaugh4570 2 года назад +284

    THIS, and when Delenn shows up with the White Stars and tells the Earth Force ships that Babylon 5 is under her protection... chills.

    • @jerrytroy2677
      @jerrytroy2677 2 года назад +6

      Amen

    • @Zaluskowsky
      @Zaluskowsky 2 года назад +5

      i just joined from that clip (refreshing 10x or more hehe)

    • @schumi9xwdc
      @schumi9xwdc Год назад +1

      This scene was slightly better.

    • @NBGEEKS
      @NBGEEKS Год назад +5

      Oh, we have the same tastes. Love both of those. Delenn and Ivonna were bad ass chicks. .

    • @davefb
      @davefb Год назад +1

      @@Zaluskowsky haha same :D

  • @soylentteal
    @soylentteal Год назад +29

    My favorite Ivanova line: “You are going to resist, I hope.”

    • @DewayneClark
      @DewayneClark 2 месяца назад +6

      My fave Ivanova line is "No boom today, then boom tomorrow. Always boom tomorrow."

  • @tuchehstone
    @tuchehstone 3 года назад +237

    "I am Death incarnate and the last living thing that you are ever going to see. God sent me."
    *Shudder*

    • @phillipbates9587
      @phillipbates9587 2 года назад +7

      Good quote

    • @IAmTheRealBill
      @IAmTheRealBill 2 года назад +4

      It’s the way she says “ever” in there that does it, IMO.

    • @snajvar84
      @snajvar84 2 года назад +2

      Still give me goosebumps hearing her say that. I watched this show as a kid with my mom. This is what got me into liking syfi shows and movies!

    • @shalesderby
      @shalesderby Год назад +2

      God sent her? Ivanova IS God! (Only kidding about that last bit, no offence) :)

  • @DieyoungDiefast
    @DieyoungDiefast 3 года назад +89

    Ivanova's take on Delenn's 'If you value your lives, be somewhere else' speech :)

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier 2 года назад +2

      From the moment she saw them, Ivanova had decided she was going to kill those ships or die trying. So, a bit like Delenn's speech, but also sort of the opposite.

    • @thegrimmretails3777
      @thegrimmretails3777 2 года назад +2

      @@travcollier and if it wasn't for Marcus's sacrifice she would have done both.

  • @dougc190
    @dougc190 4 года назад +429

    Who said there were never any strong women and TV shows. Ivana and Delen should be the posters for strong women in shows

    • @OOTurok
      @OOTurok 4 года назад +32

      SJWs never watch shows or movies like this... so there's no way for them to have known.

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 4 года назад +36

      This show was great in the strong women department because the female characters were very strong WITHOUT nerfing the male leads.

    • @Shadowkey392
      @Shadowkey392 4 года назад +13

      And Captain Janeway.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 4 года назад +9

      Doug C unfortunately the media and parents seem to want young women to grow up and be like the Kardashians

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 4 года назад +29

      @Chomag That's why Alien, Terminator, B-5 (those earlier strong-woman movies) and even the latest offerings such as The Expanse are ignored. They present strong women, but they do not present the necessary ideology along with them. The truth is, science fiction fans have always, since the 1927 movie Metropolis, accepted women as strong as writers, editors, and producers have been willing to provide. Science fiction fans have never rejected strong female characters in good stories.

  • @PackerBronco
    @PackerBronco 4 года назад +316

    Earth Alliance captain after hearing Ivanova's speech: "Good thing I wore the brown pants today ..."

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 4 года назад +6

      Yep. He be even more terrified if a fleet of Klingon Vessels decloaked right in front of him.

    • @Vasun05
      @Vasun05 4 года назад +5

      He actually said hope you brought your brown pants in an anime if I recall

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 4 года назад +1

      @@Vasun05 Okay.

    • @Vasun05
      @Vasun05 4 года назад +2

      @@jamieolberding7731 Yup Richard Epicar has a distinct but awesome voice

    • @thehellyousay
      @thehellyousay 4 года назад +5

      Woulda thought it woulda been more like, "Dammit, mom made me wear clean underwear..."

  • @kevincaruthers5412
    @kevincaruthers5412 Год назад +42

    "I am Death Incarnate... God sent me."
    Love this!

  • @joesycamore2899
    @joesycamore2899 4 года назад +387

    Ivanova is yet another reason B5 is considered the greatest science fiction show of all. No stock characters and real character arcs

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp 4 года назад +19

      B5 and DS9 are the two shows of the 90's that set the standard for character depth.

    • @Mxyzptlksac
      @Mxyzptlksac 3 года назад +8

      Each character was written with a backstory, their introduction and, just in case, their exit from the show with who would replace them.

    • @biocapsule7311
      @biocapsule7311 3 года назад +6

      Her entire backstory was one of my favorite... she represents the 'ones who are left behind', living to see those she loved past before her.

    • @adamcarreras-neal4697
      @adamcarreras-neal4697 3 года назад +5

      @@scurvofpcp DS9, Paramount ripping of JMS

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp 3 года назад +4

      @@adamcarreras-neal4697 Rip off or not, they did a good job with it.

  • @alienlife7754
    @alienlife7754 2 года назад +43

    One thing I liked about B5 was that Earth wasn’t a major player in the galaxy like in Star Trek. Earth is just another planet with many problems.

    • @shitbeausaysofficial
      @shitbeausaysofficial 4 месяца назад

      It is still a major power though in the show?

    • @sandal_thong8631
      @sandal_thong8631 3 месяца назад

      I think they had to prove themselves to other races, like in the Dilgar war and Operation Sudden Death led by General Franklin to put down a rebellion in the Sh'lassen Triumvirate.

  • @trsniffy
    @trsniffy 3 года назад +151

    "Who am I?"...literal "oh crap" chills ran down my spine when Susan said that....
    Also, when she says, "I am Death Incarnate", the tech behind her looks up with the same oh crap.

    • @snajvar84
      @snajvar84 2 года назад +10

      "Who am I?" Me as a kid goosebumps ran down my body and in my head "Ooo they done messed up!" K had the biggest crush on her when I was a kid. 😆

    • @josefhollenbauer1043
      @josefhollenbauer1043 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes ... She's. Really. PISSED!

    • @howardbeatman2820
      @howardbeatman2820 2 месяца назад +2

      And when she says, "God sent me.", the tech looks at her again with his mouth open in shock.

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 Месяц назад

      To anyone who not A bad guy "RUNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!" If you are A bad guy bye bye

  • @mrspidey80
    @mrspidey80 4 года назад +94

    And this, my friends, is why you never fly through exploding ships, no matter how cool it might look.

    • @ThatLurieGuy
      @ThatLurieGuy 4 года назад +29

      In this case, it was the choice of ship. White Stars aren’t top of the line. She should have gone with a Vorlon transport. Isn’t your life worth an additional thousand years of technological development? Contact your local Vorlon vessel sales rep to find out more about their complete range of organic, sentient craft. Vorlon: The ship that loves you back. (Beat that, Subaru!)

    • @FFGuy-eu7hr
      @FFGuy-eu7hr 3 года назад +3

      Or get the energy shields the ThirdSpace Aliens had.

    • @carlousmagus5387
      @carlousmagus5387 3 года назад +4

      The Defiant did.....

    • @Jokie155
      @Jokie155 3 года назад +2

      This is why I dislike the final scene of Endgame. It's a fantastic episode through and through, then ends with an abysmally cheesy 'will he make it?' moment of Sheridan's completely unnecessary final charge. And to top it off, they draw out and milk that explosion way longer than they need to, and even include one last whisper-shout 'John!' from Delenn.

    • @Petrosman
      @Petrosman 3 года назад +5

      @@Jokie155 unnecessary final charge? Apollo was a Deus ex machina, Sheridan and the Agamemnon should have been destroyed in the ram. Yes, the last moments where the Agamemnon almost explodes but it beautifully comes through the explosion is a bit cheesy, but it is a very cool moment and it's the end of the series's arc (JMS did not believe he would get a 5th season, so he wrapped everything up in season 4).

  • @419Films
    @419Films 4 года назад +240

    That speech always gives me chills.

    • @lordtutinean90
      @lordtutinean90 4 года назад

      Of course... I TRAINED her‼️‼️‼️🤨😂

    • @EtzEchad
      @EtzEchad 4 года назад +2

      I would not want to hear that from someone who was about to attack. It would make me ... nervous.

    • @crazedvole
      @crazedvole 3 года назад +1

      I never liked that speech. It went on for too long. Should have been shorter. "I am Commander Susan Ivanova. I am here to kick your ass back to Earth. I am the last thing you are going to see. God sent me." Something like that would have been cooler. Also as powerful as the white stars are, they don't have that " uh oh" to them when they fire. Imagine Ivanova giving her speech but having the fire control of the Excalibur (Crusade) or the Wave Motion gun (Space Battleship Yamato) or the SDF-1 (Macross/Robotech) She presses the button on one of those ships and bits of Earthforce/Shadow hybrids come drifting back to Earth orbit a few thousand years later. But that is just my 2 cents

    • @ianmoseley9910
      @ianmoseley9910 3 года назад +1

      crazedvole you version would trivialise it

    • @danielbeck2739
      @danielbeck2739 3 года назад

      It is among the greats that's for sure. Between that and my other personal favorite, the Babylon 5 mantra. For those who've watched the series you know what I'm referring to.

  • @joehealy6376
    @joehealy6376 Год назад +38

    This is good. My favorite bad ass was Vir and the wave. When your sitting in the command chair of a White Star that can back up a whole lot. Vir waving to Morden, knowing the power he wields and doing this sheer moral character, no army, no ship, nothing at all. That is strength and ultimate bad ass. The fact he is the only one who got what he wanted when asked by Morden is just so amazing.

    • @davesand8575
      @davesand8575 Год назад +5

      Wow, never realized that until just now. That Vir was the only one who got what he wanted. And he didn't even have to compromise his moral center to achieve it. There's an application in real life, hopefully.

    • @Scott-qq9jd
      @Scott-qq9jd Год назад +1

      I disagree. Everyone got what they wanted from Morden, and discovered it wasn't all they'd hoped. The Centauri were restored to glory like Londo wanted. The Narn saw the Centauri suffer, as G'kar wanted. And Vir got to see Morden's severed head. But all discovered that getting your wish often comes with terrible suffering. Londo saw the Centauri become butchers enthralled to the Shadows and Drakh. G'kar saw his people suffer another genocide. And Vir watched as Londo was forced to become a puppet of the Drakh. They all got their wishes.

  • @SeedlingNL
    @SeedlingNL 3 года назад +9

    Babylon 5 was the last of the great scifi tv shows. There would be no other.
    The year is 2021. May Ivanova have mercy on us all.

  • @1977Yakko
    @1977Yakko 4 года назад +86

    When she says she's death incarnate, I believe her.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 года назад +3

      "God sent me." Still gives me chills.

    • @danielhaire6677
      @danielhaire6677 Год назад +2

      Wise choice. One episode she was told to break out heavy weapons and instead of going to an armory, she reached under her desk and pulled out TWO Heavy Particle rifles!!

    • @robertbusek30
      @robertbusek30 Месяц назад +1

      Then again, she is also “the expanding Russian frontier.”
      (With very nice borders…)

  • @RichardX1
    @RichardX1 2 года назад +19

    I do love it when sci-fi creators remember that combat in space isn't bound to the same rules of maneuvering that exist in a gravity well with atmosphere.

    • @Robert-hz9bj
      @Robert-hz9bj 2 года назад +3

      They go back and forth on how ''realistic'' the portrayal of space combat is. There's one episode where Delenn and Sheridan are commanding a fleet against the Shadows and Delenn declares ''they're trying to outflank us!'' And it's like, WTF are you talking about woman? You're in space There are no ''flanks.'' Pretty much every fucking direction is a ''flank''

    • @RichardX1
      @RichardX1 2 года назад +1

      @@Robert-hz9bj well, with sufficient ships one could three-dimensionally encircle (ensphere?) one's opponent...

    • @JonLondrezos
      @JonLondrezos 2 года назад

      If only the same creators realized that sound is not audible in space then this would have been as realistic as Galactica.

    • @seawolf4846
      @seawolf4846 2 года назад +4

      @@Robert-hz9bj We sort of, the threat with getting outflanked in this situation is actually having the enemy able to achieve a crossfire. Which means that evasive maneuvers would be less effective by a significant margin.

    • @Synthonym
      @Synthonym 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Robert-hz9bja 'flank' is any direction that leaves you vulnerable to attack. It's easier to flank in space, not harder

  • @FullmetalCowboy
    @FullmetalCowboy 4 года назад +223

    When I first saw this, I was like "Oooooooooooh shit!". I had a dumb wide open smile and when she fired, I went "Yeah!!!". This is hands down my favorite Ivanova scene. How do you top "Ivanova is God"? Answer : "I am Death Incarnate". Oh Great Maker, what a badass 😃

    • @alwoodel8900
      @alwoodel8900 4 года назад +25

      Only Delenn...." If you value your lives be somewhere else".

    • @leslieshafer6343
      @leslieshafer6343 4 года назад +25

      @@alwoodel8900 The speeches are scary in different ways. Susan's is full of righteous fury & Delenn's is so matter of fact it's chilling.

    • @Hyperion5182
      @Hyperion5182 4 года назад +10

      @DOUG HEINS Boom Tomorrow.

    • @RobertWilke
      @RobertWilke 4 года назад +12

      @@Hyperion5182 Always BOOM Tomorrow

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall 2 года назад

      @@leslieshafer6343 absolutely. Delenn's was just a cold, I'm going to kill you especially when she says "only one earth commander has ever survived battle with the Minbari fleet. He is behind me, you are in front of me..." At the point in the episode it was just so badass.. Just like Susan's in the above clip

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 3 года назад +16

    That spinning wheel of destruction formation that the Whitestars did was so badass!!!

    • @Meower68
      @Meower68 3 года назад +5

      Find the clip where Delenn and Lennier first encounter the Drakh. "Mr Lennier, are you familiar with the Warrior Caste tactic of skin dancing?" Pretty bad a** White Star tactics, as well. "End. This."

    • @lovipoekimo176
      @lovipoekimo176 3 года назад +3

      @@Meower68 loved that one too, but this was my favorite Whitestar maneuver clip.

  • @greanstreak04
    @greanstreak04 4 года назад +61

    Night will fall and drown the sun
    When Ivanova goes to war
    Friendship dies and true love lies
    Night will fall and the dark will rise
    When Ivanova goes to war
    Demons run, but count the cost
    The battle's won, but the Shadows lost
    When Ivanova goes to war...

    • @seanrobert9661
      @seanrobert9661 2 года назад +1

      Yes.....

    • @greanstreak04
      @greanstreak04 2 года назад

      @@seanrobert9661 did you get the reference???

    • @seanrobert9661
      @seanrobert9661 2 года назад +3

      Wibly wobly , Sinclair was lucky he was her CO for screwing with her at breakfast , but then Markus went and got her a REAL breakfast wanted more and gave all.

    • @greanstreak04
      @greanstreak04 2 года назад +2

      @@seanrobert9661 timey wimey...

    • @cjhooversd
      @cjhooversd 2 года назад +8

      "Today is not the day to find out why I have so many rules."

  • @leemachado5286
    @leemachado5286 4 года назад +47

    Ivanova is one of my all time favorite scifi heroines! Such a badass in this even though the death incarnate speech was a bit over the top, still gives me chills!

  • @DrWho453
    @DrWho453 2 года назад +31

    I loved Ivanova. This was one of my two favorite quotes from her. The other is the one where she tells the fighter pilot, who pulled a stunt that almost killed him and some others, that she was god and that they WILL obey her. Man she was a great character and so was Marcus. I thought Marcus was so funny and I really hated when they killed him. I was always like how could they do that to him. I just hope in the new remake they are able to find characters that work well like Marcus and Ivanova, G'Kar and Mallari, Dellen and Sheridan otherwise I don't see the show lasting very long. Now that's not to say they won't have some bad / boring episodes that they probably could have done without. Even the original had a few episodes that they could have done without but you get through those and the next episode kicks everything back up a notch again.
    The sad thing about having all these episodes out now, is that the people watching today will never experience what we first timers got to experience. We know there was a longer story than what we were seeing each week and we had to wait for another week before we could get more answers and then would come the mid-season break and you had to wait a couple of months to get more information. You wanted to know more about the Shadows and the coming war and happened with B4. It was really quite the experience. Now you can just binge these things plus watch the movies out of sequence from how we saw them and just not get the same effect that we got having to watch and wait.

  • @maskedriderweaver4122
    @maskedriderweaver4122 4 года назад +70

    Ivanova's mere presence could win a battle.

    • @roguishpaladin
      @roguishpaladin 3 года назад +1

      Nah, you're thinking Delenn. Ivanova is pretty close, though.

    • @Ork20111
      @Ork20111 2 года назад +1

      That is what differs a good commander from a great one.

  • @bjrneirikstrkersen1021
    @bjrneirikstrkersen1021 2 года назад +18

    Vorlons: "Who are you?"
    Shadows: "What do you want?"
    Ivanova: "I am DEATH incarnate and I want to kill you!"
    Vorlons/Shadows: "Wow, that...actually checks out. Huh. Eh, we just remembered we're late for a tea party at Sigma 957, toodeloooo!"

  • @sharkdentures3247
    @sharkdentures3247 3 года назад +33

    Every time I hear that speech I think,
    Damn . . . this is one of the ONLY times a Vorlon asking the question would simply say "Yes." or "Correct.", because someone FINALLY answered the question right.
    "Who are you?"

    • @Jerkface-wl5nd
      @Jerkface-wl5nd 2 года назад +7

      A Vorlon would back the hell up and apologize at that point...

    • @markmullins8622
      @markmullins8622 2 года назад

      Omfg and you people have the gall to mock star treks speeches?? Lmao so over the top its like a parody of a sci fi show

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael 2 года назад +1

      @@markmullins8622 Uhh... what? When did anyone mention Star Trek?

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall 2 года назад

      The inquisitor would have removed the cuffs and left on his own...

    • @christopherg2347
      @christopherg2347 2 года назад

      @@markmullins8622 Funny, I am both a B5 and Star Trek Fan. And I think you are full of BS.
      In fact, Spock for Balance of Terror called: He says you are so full of it, if they could funnel that outside they would not need to wait for a random comet halo to hunt down that that Romulan Stealth Ship!

  • @filippofittipaldi8050
    @filippofittipaldi8050 4 года назад +35

    Susan was one of my favorite characters in B5. Great speech.

  • @112steinway
    @112steinway 3 года назад +19

    "Oh Valen help me, we're all doomed!"
    "Dude, she's on our side...remember?"
    "Oh thank Valen, we're saved!"

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow 3 года назад +3

      And not only did she know Valen, he knew better then to ever cross her!

    • @nemo99nemo83
      @nemo99nemo83 3 года назад

      Actually....they were doomed anyway. I would consider that battle a draw with both fleets completely anihilated.

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow 3 года назад +4

      @@nemo99nemo83 Actually, a few White Stars survived. The White Stars also succeeded in their mission objective in eliminating the threat to the rebel Earthforce ships. The Shadow Omegas failed in that their target was the rebel Earthforce ships, not the White Stars.

  • @DeltaPi314
    @DeltaPi314 3 года назад +11

    "TV shows have a lack of strong women"
    No.
    You've been watching the wrong shows. But this is the thing, good shows and media aren't about characters, it is about how they interact with other characters and the world they live in (this is what B5 got spot on).
    And this is what most modern writers get wrong, they focus too much on writing a stereotypical strong characters (of whatever shape or form) and forget that there is an entire world for these characters to live in. The world building is thrown out of the window just to put a tick on a criteria list of what is in at the moment.
    And no... world building isn't just throwing obstacles and challenges for the character to overcome so they'd be considered inspiring and strong. It's about making the characters relatable even if you are writing about a Jewish Space Captain Woman leading a fleet of bioships against her own kin... wait...

  • @xadam2dudex
    @xadam2dudex 3 года назад +16

    Susan got such an epic line in the episode and the entire B5 series everyone remembers

  • @susandaniels9733
    @susandaniels9733 5 месяцев назад +1

    You closed out on the most tear jerking and best part.

  • @rifelaw
    @rifelaw Год назад +1

    I think I saw Doc Holliday in the background going, "Oh, make no mistake, it's not revenge she's after. It's a reckoning."

  • @UnknownUzer
    @UnknownUzer 4 года назад +75

    If there were a list of the top 100 badass lines in a sci-fi series , this would rank pretty high on that list.

    • @davidbrouwers7309
      @davidbrouwers7309 4 года назад +13

      UnknownUzer that and Delenn's one human ever survived speech in S3 when EarthForce ships attacked B5 (true fans know exactly which speech I refer to)

    • @UnknownUzer
      @UnknownUzer 4 года назад +9

      @@davidbrouwers7309 I LOVE how she ended that speech "If you value your lives, be somewhere else"

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 года назад +4

      @@davidbrouwers7309 I love how she's racing to her man's rescue, and without making Sheriden look like a puss.

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall 2 года назад +3

      @@ninjabearpress2574 That was one of the great things about this series. The women were strong because they actually were strong and not because the men were neutered and weak like you see in so many movies/shows today. In B5 the competed with men at their levels. Won some, lost some but were always strong and smart

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 2 года назад +1

      @@themandownthehall chalk that up to excellent writing and casting.

  • @DamienSteiner-om4of
    @DamienSteiner-om4of 8 месяцев назад +1

    Two of my favourite speeches are this laying down of reality & Drummer as captain of the Behemoth

  • @roepi
    @roepi 3 года назад +12

    What I liked the most about this is how it's Ivanova that answers the Vorlon question that well where it was Vir who had the best answer to the Shadow question. Both characters are respective second in command on both sides of that conflict and both are loyal to a fault to their direct superior. And in both cases their answers were a big huge fuck you to the one who asked the question and it didn't end well for the one asking the question in both cases. Ivanova told exactly who whe was with zero regrets knowing full well it would kill her (not counting Marcus intervening) and vir was the only one who got exactly what he wanted with zero regrets.

  • @cennon
    @cennon 4 года назад +30

    Funny how the spacebattles on this show from the 90's is better than the spacebattles of most sci fi shows today.

    • @tomcline5631
      @tomcline5631 3 года назад

      Oh yeah,I agree!!! It's like they had a time machine or something!

    • @cennon
      @cennon 3 года назад

      @@tomcline5631 example. I love Star Trek Discovery and Battlestar Galactica but the spacebattles are no where near as exciting as B5 and that show is over 25 years old.

    • @tomcline5631
      @tomcline5631 3 года назад

      @@cennon I liked Battlestar Galactica,but yeah,the spaceship scenes were pretty low rent! As for Discovery,I'm a Star Trek purist! Discovery has nothing to do with the Proper Star Trek cannon. Having said that,the battle scenes were ok but not what you'd expect from a 21st century show!
      Babylon 5 was pretty damned amazing. The only thing I ever saw that was the least bit wonky was when they were looking at Kosh's ship. Even then,you could play it off as the whole Vorlan race being half assed wonky to begin with!
      Ive watched the first season of Discovery,a lot of really cool characters,but I've seen and Studied All the original series and movies,and All the next generation series and movies,and probably read 99% of the Universal studios approved books,there's just not room in my head for the altered history stuff like Enterprise NX01 crap ,Discovery,and even the new movies( even though we Know it's an alternate timeline).
      If you had never seen Star Trek, Discovery would be pretty good,but I just can't unsee,and unlearn 40 years of personal experience.
      In Valen's name...

  • @NardoVogt
    @NardoVogt 3 года назад +7

    Ivanova: I am Death Incarnate
    Kira Nery: If you want a war, I'll give you one.
    Avasarala: Tell them I will rain Hellfire on them.
    Give the drama to the men in SciFy.
    Badassary is the realm of women in the future.

  • @testicularoxide5055
    @testicularoxide5055 3 года назад +13

    Delenn has passed beyond the rim... 😔

    • @brentkalmbacher9092
      @brentkalmbacher9092 Год назад +2

      We will all one day pass beyound the rim and share the stories we gathered with those who went before

    • @testicularoxide5055
      @testicularoxide5055 Год назад

      @@brentkalmbacher9092 👍💜👍

  • @michalbukvai7548
    @michalbukvai7548 4 года назад +17

    She is hard as rock, but still - the whole fleet of whitestars is what gives me chills.

    • @leighsaunderson9203
      @leighsaunderson9203 3 года назад +2

      Remember the first Whitestar and we were "WOW" look at that... then you get that "it was never meant to be one of kind" moment....I still remember watching that fleet reveal for the first time during the original broadcasts in the UK !

    • @RoTenken
      @RoTenken 2 года назад

      My favorite Sci-Fi ship to this day.

  • @michaelmorton5698
    @michaelmorton5698 3 года назад +13

    This would have been a good time for the Earth Alliance ships to run. Some opponents just never take the hint.

    • @Kodalith
      @Kodalith 3 года назад +3

      A very wise Centauri once said. "Arrogant men never do."

  • @Philip02K
    @Philip02K 4 года назад +17

    I loved her command and presence.

  • @Fizz-Pop
    @Fizz-Pop 3 года назад +6

    Ah my beautiful 90's tv. I miss you.

  • @fjtalleyauthor2242
    @fjtalleyauthor2242 4 года назад +15

    One of my favorite sci-fi characters ever. Elements of a major character in my novels was based on Susan Ivanova.

  • @msbae
    @msbae 4 года назад +32

    I miss this show.

  • @Jeng4280
    @Jeng4280 2 года назад +4

    Such a badass scene. This is what made Babylon 5 such a great series for me; this and the moment where Delenn and her ship defended B5.

  • @martinthomas1293
    @martinthomas1293 3 года назад +6

    Babylon 5 always had a way with giving some of the best lines in sci-fi history this one is on the top five

  • @alfstewart22
    @alfstewart22 2 года назад +37

    3:42 "If we it let get away they'll bring back reinforcements"
    Always loved this line, it confirms to the viewer than Ivanova recgonises that these Earthgov\Shadow hybrids are alive.

    • @TheEVEInspiration
      @TheEVEInspiration 2 года назад +3

      She fights like a Minbari would, all in no matter the odds!

    • @mattheww5873
      @mattheww5873 Год назад +4

      There's also the sense the these things are Abominations, like Frankenstein's monster, and they need to be destroyed, no matter what the cost. B5 always operating on multiple levels of awesome.

  • @mikef-gi2dg
    @mikef-gi2dg 6 месяцев назад +1

    When someone tells you they are DEATH INCARNATE, like she did, you best believe their finger is flexed on the trigger, you only have a few seconds left, before a posterior BEAT DOWN. A kick A scene for sure.

  • @larskolme9740
    @larskolme9740 5 месяцев назад +1

    The look on Susan Ivanova's/Claudia Christian's face, when she threatens someone, is quite priceless. Not to mention scary, as was Mira Furlan/Delenn.

  • @jimyoung9262
    @jimyoung9262 2 года назад +7

    Cheesy as this show could be, it was some of the best sci Fi ever written

  • @GUMMRUCHK
    @GUMMRUCHK 3 года назад +13

    Part of me wants this show remade but the other part knows they'd just fuck it up. lol

  • @meatpuppet5036
    @meatpuppet5036 2 года назад +14

    This is what quality strong female characters are, Ivanova gives a badass speech, then works for her victory.
    Modern writers would either have the opponents run away or get easily curbstomped.

    • @themandownthehall
      @themandownthehall 2 года назад +3

      Exactly. Or the men would be so weak as to be laughable. JMS knew how to write good characters and situations. That's for sure. I'm glad he's back to do the new series

  • @x_lonewolf_x
    @x_lonewolf_x 3 года назад +4

    2nd best scene ever !!!!
    the first being mimbari ambassador Delenn's protection of Babylon 5 speech
    : ]

  • @ashe4711
    @ashe4711 4 года назад +12

    It saddens me not long after this Marcus is gone and the crew is dispersed.

  • @TheGrayfrog100
    @TheGrayfrog100 7 месяцев назад +1

    Delen said "Be somewhere else" That was a Threat. Ivonava is just Terrifying!

  • @stevedixon921
    @stevedixon921 3 года назад +9

    B5 was a great series. One of my top ten for sure. One story told over five seasons.

    • @julieeverett7442
      @julieeverett7442 8 месяцев назад

      JMS wrote this as a novel, a book for television, with a distinct beginning, middle and end, to my knowledge the first and only time this has been done. One of my top 5 favourite stories

  • @JFinSD2
    @JFinSD2 3 года назад +3

    Never a wise move to piss off Ivanova. I love her "death incarnate" speech.

  • @joehealy6376
    @joehealy6376 Год назад +2

    No one is as the appear. This was the greatness of the show. The mystical Minbari, The warrior angry lizard Narn, The comedic Centari, The nearly angelic ignamic Vorlon, and most of noble humans to show it is done. This was the orginal plot, and nearly every episode after chips away at that. Character matters, faith endures.

  • @stevengreen9536
    @stevengreen9536 4 года назад +6

    Man I miss this show.

  • @raquelmccormick2312
    @raquelmccormick2312 4 года назад +21

    oh, how I use to love the white Starfleet ships..when they first introduced them I was like tough little ship LOOOOOOOOVE it!

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 4 года назад +3

      Little? it's the size of the Nebula or Akira class in Star Trek only the Galaxy and Sovereign class are larger in the Federation before the 2009 reboot made all the ships a lot bigger.

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass 4 года назад +2

      I don't think they named any of the White Stars. But if they had, I'm sure one of them would have been named "Defiant".

    • @Crazael
      @Crazael 2 года назад

      @@Ushio01 Two things: The Akira and Nebula classes were not particularly large ships. Also, compared to the ships in B5, which are actually relevant to this discussion, the White Stars are tiny.

  • @KyleRuggles
    @KyleRuggles 3 месяца назад

    Oh man! I'm watching this over again from first watching it on air originally, and that quote from Susan, I am death Incarnate... Oh that hit HARD! And I must admit, season 3 and 4 really turned it up a notch in the VFX! This battle is right up there with some of the ones from The Expanse.
    I LOVE THIS SHOW! Watching this ep right now, oh man.

  • @orochigo31
    @orochigo31 2 года назад +2

    Called him sweetheart, told him what was to happen and let it be known whom it was that sent her. Talk of the wrong place at the wrong time buddy. One of the absolute best lines in Babylon 5. They didn't show it in the clip here but the way everybody looked when she said it, absolutely fantastic work. Five seasons in a couple of movies wasn't enough.

  • @OriginalMergatroid
    @OriginalMergatroid 3 года назад +7

    I wish they had of shown the face of the Earth Force commander after Ivanova's speech

    • @DLordSadow
      @DLordSadow 3 года назад +1

      I’m sure the director did too. However, the show’s budget was basically pocket change. 😞

  • @kc9602
    @kc9602 7 дней назад

    Marcus was one of VERY few people who could handle Ivanova, without getting his neck broken as a result.

  • @erikgorn
    @erikgorn Год назад

    omg so good. Been rewatching the series with a good friend. Such an epic moment!!!

  • @TheMelbournelad
    @TheMelbournelad 3 года назад +12

    From Russia with love

  • @VoodooV1
    @VoodooV1 4 года назад +25

    Captain Jake Thompson dislikes this video.

  • @Jay-ip7sl
    @Jay-ip7sl 4 года назад +8

    The speech gave me chills

  • @paulsak59
    @paulsak59 4 года назад +3

    Always a pleasure to watch this episode.

  • @WardNightstone
    @WardNightstone 3 года назад +5

    the inertia dampeners on whitestars must have been INSANELY powerful to not turn the crews into paste turning like that

    • @aikrichter5403
      @aikrichter5403 3 года назад

      Vorlon tech enhanced,for sure.

    • @brianwhedon8442
      @brianwhedon8442 3 года назад +1

      WhiteStars are almost all Minbari tech except for Vorlon bio-armor and the Vorlon altered Neutron Beam. That's why the main weapon at full power takes almost all of the main power except for life support. Even the Vorlons didn't want the Younger Races to have anything that could potentially threaten them if the balance of power shifted

  • @robertjackson3552
    @robertjackson3552 Год назад +1

    "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God."

  • @dustygrant3043
    @dustygrant3043 3 года назад +2

    This speach goes to prove that they had some very talented writers and creative workers on an excellent show and the fact that it STILL holds up to this day attests too that!!!! Along with the very talented actress on the other side of the camera TOO!!!!!! I'm really not good with names and it's been awhile since i saw the most AWESOME show ever made!!!!!!

    • @mstephens44
      @mstephens44 2 года назад

      Umm. There was only one writer. His initials are JMS.

  • @deegee6863
    @deegee6863 4 года назад +18

    First time I saw those destroyers with all that Shadow skin on them I had such a nerdgasm LOL

    • @Robert_Douglass
      @Robert_Douglass 4 года назад +6

      I gasped in horror. There was only one reason to incorporate that kind of tech into those ships, and that is conquest. Clark would have eventually tried to run roughshod over the entire galaxy.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 года назад +1

      @@Robert_Douglass Yeah, my reaction was "eff me".

  • @marcushoward6560
    @marcushoward6560 3 года назад +9

    This will always be one of the greatest scenes from the entire series!

  • @billsmith981
    @billsmith981 4 года назад +7

    It took a couple of seasons for them to get it right....and they really did.

  • @lonewanderer7926
    @lonewanderer7926 3 месяца назад

    The best part of Babylon 5 space battles is how they are realistic in the sense that they use inertia to their advantage in space as there is little to no gravity to slow them down. So, they can speed up in a direction, keep going, spin around and shoot as they drift away and not slow down.
    Brilliant show.

  • @dirdib69
    @dirdib69 4 года назад +13

    "God sent me."

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 года назад +1

      I know, gives you chills, doesn't it?
      What a woman.

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 3 года назад +2

    I could rewatch this for hours

  • @messageprocyber_techsonins5138
    @messageprocyber_techsonins5138 4 года назад +3

    She was the best sci fi second in command in any sci fi series

  • @babylon5reimaginedseries
    @babylon5reimaginedseries 2 года назад +3

    Can't wait for the new series to begin!

  • @Jadguy24
    @Jadguy24 3 года назад +7

    The other white stars: ok so looks like they have shadow tech. We probably want to keep our distance:
    Ivanova: SUUUUUSAN IVANOVA!!! (In the style of Leeroy Jenkins)
    Other white stars: Oh Velen, save her

    • @bramvanduijn8086
      @bramvanduijn8086 2 года назад

      It has a certain...
      Minsk: "GO FOR THE EYES BOO!, THE EEYYESSSS!!!"
      ... feel to it.

  • @acadrengberg
    @acadrengberg 3 года назад +2

    "... and give me firing control." (gulp)

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.9329 3 года назад +4

    "God sent me!"
    My favorite line.

  • @josephtiseo3303
    @josephtiseo3303 Год назад +1

    Just think how there were no strong female characters before Captain Marvel. One of the best lines and scenes Ive ever seen.

  • @ladycatherinedebourgh2491
    @ladycatherinedebourgh2491 3 года назад +3

    It is with supreme hope that Babylon 5 gets a HD remaster one of these days.

    • @Administrator_O-5
      @Administrator_O-5 2 года назад

      It's supposedly getting the 4K treatment, but it's also getting a reboot in 2022.

  • @ruprecht8520
    @ruprecht8520 8 месяцев назад

    When I saw this originally it sent chills down my spine. Now, isolated to just a clip without the build-up of story, it doesn't work as well. Anyone watching this should watch the show. Its worth every minute.

  • @mikeb.5039
    @mikeb.5039 4 года назад +5

    Delen's fear speech just as equal

    • @MichaelClark-uw7ex
      @MichaelClark-uw7ex 4 года назад +3

      If you value your lives, be somewhere else.

    • @ninjabearpress2574
      @ninjabearpress2574 3 года назад +2

      @@MichaelClark-uw7ex And run they did...gawd I miss quality entertainment like this.

  • @annstillwell730
    @annstillwell730 2 года назад +1

    I miss this show :(

  • @Voodoomaria
    @Voodoomaria 3 года назад +2

    See the clip entitled "If you value your lives" as well.
    The Power women of today's TV are pale shadows of Ivanova, and Delenn.
    THAT was writing.

  • @Strongpoint_S
    @Strongpoint_S 3 года назад +5

    Look Holywood, It is how you make STRONG female characters

  • @atomicsockbombs
    @atomicsockbombs Год назад +1

    Ivanova can win a game of Connect Four in three moves.

  • @jimkirk4357
    @jimkirk4357 2 года назад +2

    I remember this episode from B5's 1st run and it never fails to hit me like a sledgehammer. GOD SENT ME. Doesn't get any more blunt than Ivanova except maybe Delenn (be somewhere else). Gotta love the women of Babylon 5, they hit hard and often. Strong women who are respected by their peers. Wake up woke idiots!

  • @Raguleader
    @Raguleader 3 месяца назад +1

    And that's why Sebastian never asked Susan Ivanova "Who are you?"

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 3 месяца назад

    She was tough professional tactical and i loved her

  • @fullerdave1
    @fullerdave1 Год назад

    One of the best line in the entire series and that's saying something for sure!

  • @ericb4127
    @ericb4127 6 месяцев назад

    Watching Babylon 5 now is like seeing old friends.

  • @MichaelMitchum-ie8yr
    @MichaelMitchum-ie8yr 3 месяца назад

    Loved this shows

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 3 месяца назад

    I loved it it gave me chills

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 2 года назад +2

    One of the greatest Sci Fi shows ever.

  • @christopheranders6725
    @christopheranders6725 4 года назад +4

    She was the bomb on that show