Honestly I think Richard Briggs death at 44 was the most tragic. His heart literally just came apart on him in 2006. He was dead before he realized it they say.
One by one dear old friends are passing beyond the rim. Every time I come back to remember this wonderful show I learn about another misfortune. One day all of them be absent...
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq I don't disagree. I think that I enjoy BSG a bit more, and LOST is in a category by itself. However, I keep going back to B5 because it is a great show. So is DS9.
@@john2001plus & Stargate / Stargate Atlantis. Stargate Atlantis was actually a little better in some ways. They didn't know what to do with Daniel Jackson, & Michael Shanks was frustrated, among other things.
Sleeping in Light is one of my favorite show finales ever. Because it did not end in a big bang (despite Ivanova on the table) but a love letter to its characters instead.
@@danamccarthy5514 well, they never helped her that much did they? And all the telepatic people... It was all the time to use her ... Shadows war, civil war , problems ... Scanning etc. They didnt even helped her when she needed them the most ... So no friends.. Yes sheridan let the telepaths live in bottom of the station ... But what is wit LYta, no much help with her payments... When didnt find a job because she had no license... She had to sell her body to baster remember ... G'kar helped her more than this bunch ...
I love how Stephen Furst played Vir in this scene. All the naivete, all the self-doubt of his youth is gone. There sits a calm, confident man, touched with sadness but also the wisdom that grows from it. I have no doubt Londo would be very proud of him.
@@ElurinSomewhere I’d read that when he became Emperor, thanks to Londo he was made aware of the Keepers and the Drakh and deliberately remained off Centauri Prime until their defeat.
I think they said in the commentary of this episode that they wanted the actor to play it straight not silly, because he's the Emperor and so when he speaks, people must listen.
Vir Cotto had his share of moments in the arc of _Babylon 5_, but none better or more wonderful than the one shown here. This is a Vir Cotto who isn't comic relief or a sidekick. This is the Emperor of the Centauri Republic, and he owns the gravitas which befits that role. Stephen Furst deserves some proper notice for that performance and the others which graced that show. The only shame is that I don't have any brivari to toast his mentor with. Will 18-year-old MacAllan do?
I also like how when he saw Mr Morden's head on the pike, that he looked around to see that no one was watching before he gave the silly wave. He was more than just as joke. His character grew as the show grew.
Also he is great and non-comic and bravest when Mr. Morden is in with conversation with him, and he is also great in Knives, and lots of other scenes he was not just a comic relief and sidekick.
I just got this image of all of Vir’s handlers and advisors trying to set up proper protocol for an imperial state dinner, and him gently, but firmly, informing them that he was going to have none of that. He was going to have dinner with friends, as a friend, not the emperor. And them being reminded that under that polite, gentle manner, was the firmest mettle they faced. And thus, the Emperor of the Centauri sat as a peer, not as a royal.
In fairness the handlers would only have power over Vir if they had anything they could offer in return. Once he explained he would just like to give them a little wave they probably stepped back;).
I was thinking they probably did their searches and food-tasting and security stuff before and were out of sight. And if he signaled for a helper, they would come running.
@OriginalTharios No, I'm perfectly serious, and, since a plurality of people in the world are Christian, and the vast majority have some sort of religious belief involving life after death, I am, by definition, not crazy. I'll offer you a challenge though. Start with some widely, if not universally, acceptable axioms, and argue through a chain of logical steps, to a reasoned conclusion that there is no God. If you can do that, as I can for His existence, then your belief is based on reason. If you can't, then it is pure faith, and actually irrational.
Even after all the years and bloodshed, Vir still loved and respected Londo. He only got to be the 'good' emperor because Londo cleared the path for him.
@@DailyLifeSolution The post of Ambassador was supposed to be a " joke " position. Londo changed ALL of that. Vir honored Londo's approach. & I cried like a baby when I 1st saw this, unashamed.
To those of us that loved Babylon 5, we travelled the journey with these wonderful characters, we felt the emotion with every episode. This wonderful scene brilliantly played by Stephen Furst concludes the story with all of the emotion that it deserves. I miss B5 and all of the amazing characters the cast played so well. To those that have passed, RIP, to those still with us good health and long life and thank you all for the journey we shared with you.
All I can say to that thank you... Thank you for this elegant words so well-written that convey all of thoughts and sentiments. Rest in peace my friends and thank you for all the wonderful memories ❤️🙏
I remember watching this scene back in the 90s and not fully appreciation the losses one will face in life. I have sat at meals just like this, remembering friends, relative and loved ones that have passed on.
They say that if at least one person remembers, those who are absent are never truly gone. Even when the last cast/crew member finally goes away, we have this show to remember and honor them.
Five (Biggs, Conaway, Dolye, Katsulas, and O'Hare) of the lead actors are gone already and the show ended production less than twenty years ago. Very sad.
@@TomFynn Amen! I shudder to think what they would create today. Everytime the dig into the past and try to reboot or continue a series or movie it is a nightmare. The old vision for what makes the show great is ignored.
For this series? Yes. I'd love a conclusion to Crusade, though. And there's a whole universe of tales that could be done. The return of the Rangers to the home planet of the Blessed Sheridan; the rebuilding of Narn, Centauri Prime, Minbar; more of the lost tales... And, of course, the fall of Psi Corps, and whatever happened to Mr. Techno-Mage, Mr. and Mrs. telepath...
Even a secondary character like Vir Cotto was so brilliantly written. It is sad to think how many of the Babylon 5 cast has passed "beyond the rim" Michael O'Hare, Richard Biggs, Jeff Conaway, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, and Jerry Doyle
O'Hare's is possibly the saddest on that list. The biggest role of his career but he had to deal with a severe mental illness at the time. I do wonder if Babylon 5 ended up the way it did when he stayed in the role.
An even more poignant scene, as so many of the 'Babylon 5 family' have journeyed beyond the Rim. R.I.P Jerry Doyle, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jeff Conway, Richard Biggs. 'In memory, still bright'.
"To absent friends--in memory still bright." Mira Furlan aka Delenn. September 7, 1955 - January 20, 2021. Stephen Furst aka Vir Cotto. May 8. 1954 - June 16, 2017. Jerry Doyle aka Michael Garibaldi. July 16, 1956 - July 27, 2016. Michael O'Hare aka Jeffrey Sinclair. May 6, 1952 - September 28, 2012. Jeff Conway aka Zack Allan. October 5, 1950 - May 27, 2011. Andreas Katsulas aka G'Kar. May 18, 1946 - February 13, 2006. Richard Biggs aka Stephen Franklin. March 18, 1960 - May 22, 2004.
Londo cried because he understood it all - who knew more about grief and loss than him? I'll always believe that the amazing moment when G'Kar forgives him is what gives Londo the strength to take that final walk to the Drakh and accept the long and terrible sacrifice ahead. He did it because he truly loved his world, his people, but G'Kar's forgiveness gave Londo the hope that he could actually endure and be redeemed. Then, as at the end, his oldest enemy was his truest friend and his deliverer. RIP Richard, Stephen, Andreas, Michael, Jerry, Mira, Jeff - thank you for giving us this gift.
The emperor wasn't stupid. He pushed Reefa away, and made his wishes known to Londo. Londo, there was hope, even though he took part in the things the emperor disapproved. Londo listened, despite the fact he lied about what was said. it may have taken along time for what was said to fully sink in though.
Walk with the angels Stephen Furst. You will be remembered and missed--an absent friend in memory so bright. Babylon 5 is television at its finest. So sad to see so many cast members pass on. But the gift they gave us in scenes like this, show how powerful science fiction can be. Don't you miss this show?
Babylon 5 and The Expanse have given us unparalleled science fiction greatness. I think Battlestar Galactica was the only other that aspired to such heights, but it still fell short.
Gotta love Vir -- very much an underappreciated individual throughout most of the show. Isn't it just like him to find the good in (almost) everyone -- even the pak'ma'ra?? (Obviously, Vir made an exception for Mr. Morden and the Shadows.) Hell, he even wanted to find a way of removing Cartagia from power which didn't involve killing him...until he realized that there really was no other way.
It speaks to the Centauri spirit that they could, despite all their corruption and intrigue, recognize and honor Vir's humility and incorruptibility in the end.
To absent friends. Mira Furlan, (Delenn ) Richard Biggs, (Dr Steven Franklin) Jerry Doyle, (Garabaldi) Steven Furst, ( Vir Coto) Andreas Katsulas, ( G’Kar) Michale O’Hare (Jeffery Sinclair) Jeff Conway (Zack Allen)
Every time I see that scene, it always annoys me that Garabaldi didn't say "Sinclair". (they were like best friends) It would have been a perfect tie in to the first season & a nod to O'Hare. Franklin could say G'Kar after Ivonnava says Marcus.
@@sharkdentures3247 True but of them all Garibaldi and G'Kar had a a special friendship with one another that built slowly but strongly over the series. G'Kar's relationship with Garibaldi was more in-depth than any of the other major players on B5 except for Londo.
@@sharkdentures3247 When your friend didn't actually die in your lifetime, though, I'm not sure it counts. Sinclair was alive when the rest saw him last - perhaps that's how they prefer to remember him. If you saw your best friend boarding a plane, and then afterward I told you that they wouldn't ever be coming back, but that they had traveled back in time and become Jesus...how do you even process that?
You know I'm not particularly religious. But I've tried to make it a yearly custom to stop into a church somewhere, light a candle, sit and remember all of my friends, relatives, and my wife who aren't with me any longer.
Every character was written with a strength, whether obvious in the major players, or hidden in the minor. Here is Vir, who was always in possession of his own inner hidden strength fully expressing himself through that strength and even though a character in a great wonderful presentation, he is so real and true.
Straczinski said that each character was written as a broken person at the beginning of the series. By the end of the series, you see how one is made for the better or worse based on the choices they made.
Babylon 5 was a phenomenal series, in so many ways - writing, acting, story, directing. This clip is just a small sample of the powerful writing and acting.
To absent friends, in memory still bright: Stephen Furst (1954-2017) - Vir Cotto Michael O'Hare (1952-2012) - Jeffrey Sinclair Andreas Katsulas (1946-2006) - G'Kar Mira Furlan (1955-2021) - Delenn Jerry Doyle (1956-2016) - Michael Garibaldi Jeff Conaway (1950-2011) - Zack Allan Richard Biggs (1960-2004) - Dr. Stephen Franklin Tim Choate (1954-2004) - Zathras
I have been watching this show since I was a kid and only now noticed that Garibaldi (alongside Delenn) stands out by drinking water at the table. Because of course he is.
This scene is WONDERFUL. All of Sheridan's friends breaking bread, celebrating, talking like they don't know or care that Sheridan's time is running out - including Sheridan. This series was MAGIC.
@@kevq761 I'm not the LEAST surprised. I've had fairly good friends who I traded insults with, we borrowed money from each other & took our time settling up, we COULD BE Straight - Up DICKS to each other, & I *STILL* MISS THEM & wonder what happened to them. WE traded insults that would've had other friends smacking the crap out of each other. But we could *still* feel concern & even WORRY if we thought something was wrong.
Sad that Sheridan's words here fit the loss of so many B5 characters and actors. We focus on the main characters missing, but there are side characters that are also no longer with us sadly.
Thanks for uploading this touching scene. What could be a better ending episode for the series that still holds the number one place in my heart to this very day...
@@thomasfrazer8934 however, it did not apply to them in that moment because they knew the truth. He lived a very long full life, not to mention became a prophet for a people for more than a thousand years. In comparison to the others who died in the line of duty.
This show had jokes and fun but tempered with scenes like this one. This scene reminds me of real life and real loss and that life is not to be taken for granted. What a great show this was because these scenes mean more now, than they did those 25 or so years ago.
God, that absent friends toast always gets to me, makes me thing of all the friends, family, pets, and people I have truly admired who are no longer with us :( :(( big time!
Has to be ranked as one of the greatest TV series ever written (and acted).... not just sci-fi, but TV - period! To me, it's better than M*A*S*H, Friends, or Doctor Who - and it's right up there (and in some ways, better) with Star Trek! The only show I think was consistently AS powerful as "Babylon 5," was Game of Thrones.
I consider myself remarkably lucky to have lived when this show was in first run on television. It was profound when it aired, and it has lost absolutely none of that quality; indeed, it is more profound now than it ever was. Please please PLEASE Hollywood, do not sully this wonderful show with a 'reboot'. Some things are better left remembered as they were, rather than 're-imagined' into something else.
While I'm waiting for the next season of The Expanse, I think I'm dusting off my DVD's and watching this amazing series again. JMS...thank you for for this gem. To those fine actors who have left us for beyond the Rim...I raise this toast. Salut.
@@jonathansoko1085 Well, for his own part JMS happens to think that “The Expanse” is brilliant, and a worthy successor to B5. As do I. So not everyone agrees.
@@michaelhall2709 I dont care waht JMS thinks about the expanse, his opinion couldnt matter less to me here. And if you consider it a successor to B5, well thats embarrassing.
@@jonathansoko1085 That “The Expanse” is a worthy successor to B5 is JMS’ opinion, which I just happen to share. What’s embarrassing is your apparent belief that there’s some kind of objective standard when it comes to matters of personal taste, not to mention that you somehow got past middle school without mastering the rudiments of the apostrophe or basic English grammar. Not every disagreement over the quality of TV shows has to turn into a major online dispute, fella.
Remember when Kosh took Sheridan to lesser known parts of the station, and then to that choir? I like to think that was a choir of Pak'ma'ra. That was a moment of perfect beauty.
Babylon 5 shows us what television can aspire to if given time and desire to truly entertain. The growth and depth of every character is something that all should try to emulate. It belittles us all that the majority of television since has failed to live up to the example of B5 in what good TV actually is. All those great actors from this show that we have lost. Rest well in the knowledge that you brought joy and happiness to millions. The world is a darker place for you passing.
I feel happy and privileged that I was alive to watch these great masters at their craft bring forth what can be considered to be the greatest Sci-Fi show of its time.
This was just one of many scenes.that brought a tear to my eyes.first time I watched them.now more than than ever. these same tears are filled with understanding that I lacked in my younger days.
@@nemo99nemo83 Actually, all Londo really wanted was to see his republic become a respected intergalactic power again, but he went to the wrong people.
@@roguishpaladin Not in the series, but apparently in one of the spinoff novels concerning the Telepath wars that supposedly happened in that period. To be honest, I never got to read it.
Bruce and Claudia are the last ones left at that table. Too many of them have gone beyond the Rim before their time. To Mira, Stephen, Richard, and Jerry. Until we all meet again, in a place where no shadows fall.
This is the way to end a series, EVERY Hollywood TV writer should be made to watch the entire series . 98% Perfect writing ( "Grey 17 Is Missing ") ? Perfect acting,effects and music .If Warner Brothers redid the dvd's with updated special effects like Paramount did with Star Trek (only the 1st season is iffy) ,they would make a ton more money than they already have on this franchise . Try it on one season and see how you do .
Oh, for the godess sake...it is a 3 minute scene with more emotional intensity than the whole discovery series ! Where did we lost the knowledge to write such beatifull things ?
Gavin Rossdale because he never knew that was the pak'mara? that's the whole point of this scene. we don't know until now that it could have been them that sang for Sheridan.
I miss Londo during this part, he was really protected Vir and gave Vir somone to look and taught him many things about the dangers of politics and power. Vir and Londo saved the Centauri.
This show is many things.It is a great adventure that takes us along for it's ride All these years later it still has something relatable for us all.Faith Manages.....
It was amazing that the story arc of B5 took the time over several episodes to say goodbye to all the wonderful characters that inhabited my existence for five short years.
Walk in the Light, though Darkness be always around you Hold that Light dear, because Darkness is always around you Shelter in that Light as Darkness overcomes you Let not the Darkness be all there is
Well done. But I had to have a BIG glass of wine to finish this entire episode.But it was beautifully done. 20 years..... my heart was broken for Delenn and John.Thanks for wonderful story everyone.
Steven. Quite right. The other scene which is a Heartbreaker is Joe dressed in Earthforce uniform turning the power off on Babylon 5 before the end of this episode. The music breaks your heart as an old friend disappears forever.
![FendiDa Rappa - Clock Dat ft. Shamar Marco [Official Music Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3NBU8KHdxYY/mqdefault.jpg)
And now, with the passing of Miran Furlan, only two people sitting at that table are still alive. :(
WHAT???? Seriously??? So just Sheridan and Ivanova are left??
@@katarhall3047 Sadly, yes. Mira Furlan died of complications of West Nile virus on January 20, 2021.
Wow! Dammit,. That is so sad.
😭 this is so sad.
Honestly I think Richard Briggs death at 44 was the most tragic. His heart literally just came apart on him in 2006. He was dead before he realized it they say.
To Richard.
To Stephen.
To Andreas.
To Michael.
To Jerry.
To Jeff.
To Tim.
To Robin.
One by one dear old friends are passing beyond the rim. Every time I come back to remember this wonderful show I learn about another misfortune. One day all of them be absent...
So true, it is a wonderful show and very well acted.
Sleeping in Light. Always.
😞🙏🏻❤️‼️
...In memory still bright.
After all these years, this scene still brings the tears. This is still the best TV series I've ever watched.
I agree. I like LOST and Battlestar Galactica more, but this show is one of the best.
Me too
@@john2001plus The character development & plot are right there with BSG.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq I don't disagree. I think that I enjoy BSG a bit more, and LOST is in a category by itself. However, I keep going back to B5 because it is a great show. So is DS9.
@@john2001plus & Stargate / Stargate Atlantis. Stargate Atlantis was actually a little better in some ways. They didn't know what to do with Daniel Jackson, & Michael Shanks was frustrated, among other things.
"To absent friends--in memory still bright."
One of the best quotes for lost friends ever written. :)
Sleeping in Light is one of my favorite show finales ever. Because it did not end in a big bang (despite Ivanova on the table) but a love letter to its characters instead.
As much as I love the show and the episode, the scene has one problem, noone toasted Lyta.
@@danamccarthy5514 well, they never helped her that much did they? And all the telepatic people...
It was all the time to use her ...
Shadows war, civil war , problems ... Scanning etc.
They didnt even helped her when she needed them the most ... So no friends..
Yes sheridan let the telepaths live in bottom of the station ... But what is wit LYta, no much help with her payments... When didnt find a job because she had no license...
She had to sell her body to baster remember ...
G'kar helped her more than this bunch ...
Having never seen the Rangers movies where they discuss the telepath wars, perhaps she did something in the end to not earn such a remembrance.
@@kimmccarthy7747 As i already said... They never showed to be great friends to her ... MAybe because she was a Telepath, who knows ...
I love how Stephen Furst played Vir in this scene. All the naivete, all the self-doubt of his youth is gone. There sits a calm, confident man, touched with sadness but also the wisdom that grows from it. I have no doubt Londo would be very proud of him.
Proud or sad. Surely he has a Keeper as well?
@Elurin nope. With the help of the Allaince and Londo's interference through alcohol the Centuari pushed the Drahk out.
@@Elurin by this time the Drak were defeated so they and their keepers are long gone.
@@ElurinSomewhere I’d read that when he became Emperor, thanks to Londo he was made aware of the Keepers and the Drakh and deliberately remained off Centauri Prime until their defeat.
I think they said in the commentary of this episode that they wanted the actor to play it straight not silly, because he's the Emperor and so when he speaks, people must listen.
Vir Cotto had his share of moments in the arc of _Babylon 5_, but none better or more wonderful than the one shown here. This is a Vir Cotto who isn't comic relief or a sidekick. This is the Emperor of the Centauri Republic, and he owns the gravitas which befits that role. Stephen Furst deserves some proper notice for that performance and the others which graced that show.
The only shame is that I don't have any brivari to toast his mentor with. Will 18-year-old MacAllan do?
Troubleshooter125 Londo does refer to "that excellent Earth whiskey", so think he'd approve.
Indeed Sir!!
Troubleshooter125 Could not agree more. On both counts.
I also like how when he saw Mr Morden's head on the pike, that he looked around to see that no one was watching before he gave the silly wave. He was more than just as joke. His character grew as the show grew.
Also he is great and non-comic and bravest when Mr. Morden is in with conversation with him,
and he is also great in Knives, and lots of other scenes he was not just a comic relief and sidekick.
I just got this image of all of Vir’s handlers and advisors trying to set up proper protocol for an imperial state dinner, and him gently, but firmly, informing them that he was going to have none of that. He was going to have dinner with friends, as a friend, not the emperor. And them being reminded that under that polite, gentle manner, was the firmest mettle they faced.
And thus, the Emperor of the Centauri sat as a peer, not as a royal.
especially as he was with the head of the interstellar alliance so proper protocols were tossed out by default
In fairness the handlers would only have power over Vir if they had anything they could offer in return. Once he explained he would just like to give them a little wave they probably stepped back;).
@@bostonrailfan2427 Someone who is objectively his equal, and possibly his superior.
@@silverjohn6037 EXCELLENT Strategy.
I was thinking they probably did their searches and food-tasting and security stuff before and were out of sight. And if he signaled for a helper, they would come running.
It really tears at your heart strings when you realize half of the people in this scene have left us to explore beyond the Rim. :'(
Franklin, G'Kar, Vir, Kosh, Garibaldi, Sinclair, Zack. Too many amazing actors.
nor be envious of them for if you an advanced enough being you too could join them
@OriginalTharios Oh, yes there is. A glorious resurrection awaits us all. Some will live afterwards, forever. Some will not.
@OriginalTharios No, I'm perfectly serious, and, since a plurality of people in the world are Christian, and the vast majority have some sort of religious belief involving life after death, I am, by definition, not crazy. I'll offer you a challenge though. Start with some widely, if not universally, acceptable axioms, and argue through a chain of logical steps, to a reasoned conclusion that there is no God. If you can do that, as I can for His existence, then your belief is based on reason. If you can't, then it is pure faith, and actually irrational.
@@odysseusrex5908 Flying Spaghetti Monster is my god and it sings with pak'ma'ra´s voice.
Even after all the years and bloodshed, Vir still loved and respected Londo. He only got to be the 'good' emperor because Londo cleared the path for him.
Londo had vices from the start. Vir had virtues from the start. Their respective virtues and vices made them bad and good emperor respectively.
@@DailyLifeSolution The post of Ambassador was supposed to be a " joke " position. Londo changed ALL of that. Vir honored Londo's approach. & I cried like a baby when I 1st saw this, unashamed.
Vir learned how to be “bad,” which enabled him to rule effectively.
To those of us that loved Babylon 5, we travelled the journey with these wonderful characters, we felt the emotion with every episode. This wonderful scene brilliantly played by Stephen Furst concludes the story with all of the emotion that it deserves. I miss B5 and all of the amazing characters the cast played so well. To those that have passed, RIP, to those still with us good health and long life and thank you all for the journey we shared with you.
All I can say to that thank you... Thank you for this elegant words so well-written that convey all of thoughts and sentiments. Rest in peace my friends and thank you for all the wonderful memories ❤️🙏
Indeed. The part of us that remains, still misses the part of those that have gone ahead.
@@themisspultone DO NOT REBOOT THIS. You will be in for a GINORMOUS disappointment, very likely.
I remember watching this scene back in the 90s and not fully appreciation the losses one will face in life. I have sat at meals just like this, remembering friends, relative and loved ones that have passed on.
...and with every year, more friends' names are added to the roll.
As have I. Not to worry, you will meet them again.
My father passed away last year. At the eulogy I quoted Lorien: "This journey has ended. Another begins. Time to rest now."
They say that if at least one person remembers, those who are absent are never truly gone. Even when the last cast/crew member finally goes away, we have this show to remember and honor them.
As long as their names live on, they LIVE beyond the Rim.
There's a tear running down my face today cos we lost Stephen Furst R.I.P
chris bate but we remember him. And those like him. And that's important.
A toast to Michael Garibaldi.
😢
*SOB*
Five (Biggs, Conaway, Dolye, Katsulas, and O'Hare) of the lead actors are gone already and the show ended production less than twenty years ago. Very sad.
but never forgotten
And Commander Jeffrey Sinclair, Ambassador G'Kar, Dr. Stephen Franklin, Zack Allen, and Zathras....
I love that Babylon 5 has a clear and definitive ending. There is no need to be more of it. It's done, and its beautiful.
Let's hope they never do a "reboot".
@@TomFynn Amen! I shudder to think what they would create today. Everytime the dig into the past and try to reboot or continue a series or movie it is a nightmare. The old vision for what makes the show great is ignored.
@@D3voidofsoul The ONLY rebooted series that I halfway like = Battlestar Galactica. The original was overly influenced by Star Wars.
For this series? Yes. I'd love a conclusion to Crusade, though. And there's a whole universe of tales that could be done. The return of the Rangers to the home planet of the Blessed Sheridan; the rebuilding of Narn, Centauri Prime, Minbar; more of the lost tales... And, of course, the fall of Psi Corps, and whatever happened to Mr. Techno-Mage, Mr. and Mrs. telepath...
That was how the show was written from the beginning.
They wanted to tell a story...they did, now it's done.
Maybe I should watch it again...
Even a secondary character like Vir Cotto was so brilliantly written. It is sad to think how many of the Babylon 5 cast has passed "beyond the rim" Michael O'Hare, Richard Biggs, Jeff Conaway, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, and Jerry Doyle
You can really tell by Vir's speech that he would have given anything to have his friend back.
You were only meant to think Vir was a secondary character. He was as important as any of the rest.
And now we have to add Mira to that list...
O'Hare's is possibly the saddest on that list. The biggest role of his career but he had to deal with a severe mental illness at the time. I do wonder if Babylon 5 ended up the way it did when he stayed in the role.
he wasn’t a secondary character, he was the main cast every season 🙄
An even more poignant scene, as so many of the 'Babylon 5 family' have journeyed beyond the Rim.
R.I.P Jerry Doyle, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jeff Conway, Richard Biggs. 'In memory, still bright'.
It's "Katsulas" with a "k."
Fjordstone: Predictive text, ever a pain in the ass. lol
I feel your pain!
Don't forget Michael O'Hare, guy had a very tragic life and had to leave the show due to serious mental health issues.
We lost Delen this year
"To absent friends--in memory still bright."
Mira Furlan aka Delenn. September 7, 1955 - January 20, 2021.
Stephen Furst aka Vir Cotto. May 8. 1954 - June 16, 2017.
Jerry Doyle aka Michael Garibaldi. July 16, 1956 - July 27, 2016.
Michael O'Hare aka Jeffrey Sinclair. May 6, 1952 - September 28, 2012.
Jeff Conway aka Zack Allan. October 5, 1950 - May 27, 2011.
Andreas Katsulas aka G'Kar. May 18, 1946 - February 13, 2006.
Richard Biggs aka Stephen Franklin. March 18, 1960 - May 22, 2004.
it is very sad how many people have already left
O’Hare had the blessings of JMS when he stepped away. JMS never stopped being concerned for his friend.
Londo cried because he understood it all - who knew more about grief and loss than him? I'll always believe that the amazing moment when G'Kar forgives him is what gives Londo the strength to take that final walk to the Drakh and accept the long and terrible sacrifice ahead. He did it because he truly loved his world, his people, but G'Kar's forgiveness gave Londo the hope that he could actually endure and be redeemed. Then, as at the end, his oldest enemy was his truest friend and his deliverer.
RIP Richard, Stephen, Andreas, Michael, Jerry, Mira, Jeff - thank you for giving us this gift.
The emperor wasn't stupid. He pushed Reefa away, and made his wishes known to Londo. Londo, there was hope, even though he took part in the things the emperor disapproved. Londo listened, despite the fact he lied about what was said. it may have taken along time for what was said to fully sink in though.
@@slewone4905 Yes, he knew that Reefa was irredeemable, but that Londo was at heart an honorable person.
and the sad part is only two are left alive that were at the table. "to absent friends in memory still bright."
Walk with the angels Stephen Furst. You will be remembered and missed--an absent friend in memory so bright. Babylon 5 is television at its finest. So sad to see so many cast members pass on. But the gift they gave us in scenes like this, show how powerful science fiction can be. Don't you miss this show?
Five seasons of perfection.
Babylon 5 and The Expanse have given us unparalleled science fiction greatness. I think Battlestar Galactica was the only other that aspired to such heights, but it still fell short.
Sleep in light, Stephen Furst.
So many have passed. So sad. "My shoes are too tight, and I have forgotten how to dance."
Only two people sitting at that table are alive today :(
rest in peace dr franklyn, gkar, zathras,ambassador sinclair,zack, mr garabaldi, vir
Gotta love Vir -- very much an underappreciated individual throughout most of the show. Isn't it just like him to find the good in (almost) everyone -- even the pak'ma'ra?? (Obviously, Vir made an exception for Mr. Morden and the Shadows.) Hell, he even wanted to find a way of removing Cartagia from power which didn't involve killing him...until he realized that there really was no other way.
I miss B5 so much. I'm not sure whether Vir had a bigger soul or a bigger heart, and I'm not sure it matters. He was a good person.
Unlikie G'Kar or Londo, Vir wanted nothing for himself. Just a warning to those who take the easier path.
And in the end, he was happy getting it! :D
It speaks to the Centauri spirit that they could, despite all their corruption and intrigue, recognize and honor Vir's humility and incorruptibility in the end.
He also didn't seem to mind celebrating the end of the Xon...which may indicate how evil they must have been.
The best Morden scene was the wave Vir gave his head atop the pike.....
RIP Stephen Furst. To another "absent friend gone beyond the rim"
NOOOOO!
To absent friends.
Mira Furlan, (Delenn )
Richard Biggs, (Dr Steven Franklin)
Jerry Doyle, (Garabaldi)
Steven Furst, ( Vir Coto)
Andreas Katsulas, ( G’Kar)
Michale O’Hare (Jeffery Sinclair)
Jeff Conway (Zack Allen)
After what happened to Marcus, Susan had never said his name until this scene. It shows how much he affected her life.
Look up " Time, Space and the Incurable Romantic" by The Great Maker . It would make a great movie .
If Sheridan were to have toasted someone I think that he would've toasted in memory of Kosh.
Yeah poor Kosh was forgotten.
Maybe he did?
He did mention just "absent friends". Lot of people in there.
Every time I see that scene, it always annoys me that Garabaldi didn't say "Sinclair". (they were like best friends) It would have been a perfect tie in to the first season & a nod to O'Hare.
Franklin could say G'Kar after Ivonnava says Marcus.
@@sharkdentures3247 True but of them all Garibaldi and G'Kar had a a special friendship with one another that built slowly but strongly over the series. G'Kar's relationship with Garibaldi was more in-depth than any of the other major players on B5 except for Londo.
@@sharkdentures3247 When your friend didn't actually die in your lifetime, though, I'm not sure it counts. Sinclair was alive when the rest saw him last - perhaps that's how they prefer to remember him. If you saw your best friend boarding a plane, and then afterward I told you that they wouldn't ever be coming back, but that they had traveled back in time and become Jesus...how do you even process that?
You know I'm not particularly religious. But I've tried to make it a yearly custom to stop into a church somewhere, light a candle, sit and remember all of my friends, relatives, and my wife who aren't with me any longer.
And now Stephen Furst. Because, you know, I needed to cry more when I watched this scene.
Every character was written with a strength, whether obvious in the major players, or hidden in the minor. Here is Vir, who was always in possession of his own inner hidden strength fully expressing himself through that strength and even though a character in a great wonderful presentation, he is so real and true.
Straczinski said that each character was written as a broken person at the beginning of the series. By the end of the series, you see how one is made for the better or worse based on the choices they made.
Babylon 5 was a phenomenal series, in so many ways - writing, acting, story, directing. This clip is just a small sample of the powerful writing and acting.
Absolutely the best science fiction TV series ever made.
Delenns expression when she toats to Lennir. Oh, stop aching my heart.
To absent friends, in memory still bright:
Stephen Furst (1954-2017) - Vir Cotto
Michael O'Hare (1952-2012) - Jeffrey Sinclair
Andreas Katsulas (1946-2006) - G'Kar
Mira Furlan (1955-2021) - Delenn
Jerry Doyle (1956-2016) - Michael Garibaldi
Jeff Conaway (1950-2011) - Zack Allan
Richard Biggs (1960-2004) - Dr. Stephen Franklin
Tim Choate (1954-2004) - Zathras
I have been watching this show since I was a kid and only now noticed that Garibaldi (alongside Delenn) stands out by drinking water at the table. Because of course he is.
Damn, just Bruce and Claudia are all that's left at this table. :(
For those who starred in Babylon 5 and have gone. May they be sleeping in light
This scene is WONDERFUL. All of Sheridan's friends breaking bread, celebrating, talking like they don't know or care that Sheridan's time is running out - including Sheridan. This series was MAGIC.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq The bit that got me the most was Vir talkng about Londo. " It's funny. All that he was, all that he did, i miss him "
@@kevq761 I'm not the LEAST surprised. I've had fairly good friends who I traded insults with, we borrowed money from each other & took our time settling up, we COULD BE Straight - Up DICKS to each other, & I *STILL* MISS THEM & wonder what happened to them. WE traded insults that would've had other friends smacking the crap out of each other. But we could *still* feel concern & even WORRY if we thought something was wrong.
So many B5 actors died already, and now Vir! :'-(Thank you for your acting, and may you rest in peace, somewhere in the stars
Who still cries at this scene in 2021?
Met two of the people in this scene-Claudia Christian and Richard Biggs. Would have liked to meet them all.
Sad that Sheridan's words here fit the loss of so many B5 characters and actors. We focus on the main characters missing, but there are side characters that are also no longer with us sadly.
To absent friends, in memory still bright
Richard
Stephen
Andreas
Jerry
Jeff
Michael
Thanks for uploading this touching scene. What could be a better ending episode for the series that still holds the number one place in my heart to this very day...
Not so much Sheridan.. but for the others one name not remembered...
Sinclair.
But remember that in that universe, Sinclair is not dead. He's gone back in time to become Valen.
That's pretty much the same as being dead from the perspective of everyone else.
@@thomasfrazer8934 however, it did not apply to them in that moment because they knew the truth. He lived a very long full life, not to mention became a prophet for a people for more than a thousand years. In comparison to the others who died in the line of duty.
Four of the six on that table are dead now. How sad. To absent friends - in memory still bright!
To Jeffrey David Sinclair.
In Valen's Name...
Rest in peace, dear Stephen Furst. Too many good people have died recently. At least you will have good company with them in the afterlife.
In memory of everyone who wasn't there at that moment. .. Glory for eternity😊
Stephen Furst.
To Richard Biggs, Andreas Katsulas, Jeff Conaway, Michael O'Hare, Jerry Doyle, and Stephen Furst
This show had jokes and fun but tempered with scenes like this one. This scene reminds me of real life and real loss and that life is not to be taken for granted.
What a great show this was because these scenes mean more now, than they did those 25 or so years ago.
I wish Stephen Furst were still around, so that he could give his voice to VIR in Stellaris. It would've been a nice throwback.
Godspeed, Mr. Furst.
beyond the Rim ... they will all meet again... rip ... great show great cast great memories...
God, that absent friends toast always gets to me, makes me thing of all the friends, family, pets, and people I have truly admired who are no longer with us :( :(( big time!
The power of this show.
It’s brilliant writing and acting.
Has to be ranked as one of the greatest TV series ever written (and acted).... not just sci-fi, but TV - period! To me, it's better than M*A*S*H, Friends, or Doctor Who - and it's right up there (and in some ways, better) with Star Trek! The only show I think was consistently AS powerful as "Babylon 5," was Game of Thrones.
We will see you again, Mira - In a place where no shadows fall!
feels good to see a decent Centauri for a change, in the seat of the emperor
Actually, the only bad Emperor we saw was Cartagia.
RIP Stephen Furst, thankyou for your superb performances. To absent friends, in memory still bright!
vir has gone beyond the rim
The writing, the acting, the music. To a B5 lover like me...it was all perfectly done.
RIP Stephen
I must break out the DVD box set and start to watch the show all over again. Just so I can appreciate the sentiment of this toast once more.
I consider myself remarkably lucky to have lived when this show was in first run on television. It was profound when it aired, and it has lost absolutely none of that quality; indeed, it is more profound now than it ever was. Please please PLEASE Hollywood, do not sully this wonderful show with a 'reboot'. Some things are better left remembered as they were, rather than 're-imagined' into something else.
To Vir...
While I'm waiting for the next season of The Expanse, I think I'm dusting off my DVD's and watching this amazing series again.
JMS...thank you for for this gem.
To those fine actors who have left us for beyond the Rim...I raise this toast.
Salut.
When i rewatch b5 and old trek seasons, i realize how trash expanse really is. Its pretty to look at , it ends there. Sad.
@@jonathansoko1085 Well, for his own part JMS happens to think that “The Expanse” is brilliant, and a worthy successor to B5. As do I. So not everyone agrees.
@@michaelhall2709 I dont care waht JMS thinks about the expanse, his opinion couldnt matter less to me here. And if you consider it a successor to B5, well thats embarrassing.
@@jonathansoko1085 That “The Expanse” is a worthy successor to B5 is JMS’ opinion, which I just happen to share. What’s embarrassing is your apparent belief that there’s some kind of objective standard when it comes to matters of personal taste, not to mention that you somehow got past middle school without mastering the rudiments of the apostrophe or basic English grammar. Not every disagreement over the quality of TV shows has to turn into a major online dispute, fella.
RIP Stephen Furst.
Too bad one of them didn't say, "Commander Jeffrey Sinclair."
@Daniel Appleton since everyone knows he became Valen, toasting his death would not be appropriate-Minbari frown on such thinga
The Pak'ma'ra singing... one moment of perfect beauty...
Someone remembers.
Remember when Kosh took Sheridan to lesser known parts of the station, and then to that choir? I like to think that was a choir of Pak'ma'ra. That was a moment of perfect beauty.
Babylon 5 shows us what television can aspire to if given time and desire to truly entertain.
The growth and depth of every character is something that all should try to emulate.
It belittles us all that the majority of television since has failed to live up to the example of B5 in what good TV actually is.
All those great actors from this show that we have lost.
Rest well in the knowledge that you brought joy and happiness to millions. The world is a darker place for you passing.
Kudos, I couldn't have said it any better! Quality program all five seasons!
This scene, every time T_T
I feel happy and privileged that I was alive to watch these great masters at their craft bring forth what can be considered to be the greatest Sci-Fi show of its time.
This was just one of many scenes.that brought a tear to my eyes.first time I watched them.now more than than ever. these same tears are filled with understanding that I lacked in my younger days.
And yet they don't toast Lyta, which is understandable, yet sad.
Especially since they salute to Londo who wanted to conquer the galaxy while Lyta just wanted one place for her people to live.
@@nemo99nemo83 Actually, all Londo really wanted was to see his republic become a respected intergalactic power again, but he went to the wrong people.
Had it official been established by JMS by that point that Lyta did not survive the intervening period? I don't remember.
@@roguishpaladin Not in the series, but apparently in one of the spinoff novels concerning the Telepath wars that supposedly happened in that period. To be honest, I never got to read it.
If Zack had made it to the dinner, we all know he would have named Lyta. :)
Bruce and Claudia are the last ones left at that table. Too many of them have gone beyond the Rim before their time. To Mira, Stephen, Richard, and Jerry. Until we all meet again, in a place where no shadows fall.
This is the way to end a series, EVERY Hollywood TV writer should be made to watch the entire series . 98% Perfect writing ( "Grey 17 Is Missing ") ? Perfect acting,effects and music .If Warner Brothers redid the dvd's with updated special effects like Paramount did with Star Trek (only the 1st season is iffy) ,they would make a ton more money than they already have on this franchise . Try it on one season and see how you do .
Never understood why they didn't toast Talia :(
Or Lyta
I think it might have to do with the circumstances under which she left the show.
@@thomasfrazer8934 but Lyta?
Excellent scene. It was very nice to see all of the main cast together for the last time.. :)
Oh Sheridan, it was the Pak'Ma'Ra who sang to you in Down Below, that "beauty in the dark" scene you encountered in season 2.
Oh, for the godess sake...it is a 3 minute scene with more emotional intensity than the whole discovery series ! Where did we lost the knowledge to write such beatifull things ?
No one want to try anymore it seems.
We don’t lose it, we just forget how for a while. Then it comes up again, usually in places you don’t expect it.
Why was Sheridan surprised the pakmarah could sing when Kosh showed it to him in season 2 in his "one moment of perfect beauty"?
Gavin Rossdale because he never knew that was the pak'mara? that's the whole point of this scene. we don't know until now that it could have been them that sang for Sheridan.
I miss Londo during this part, he was really protected Vir and gave Vir somone to look and taught him many things about the dangers of politics and power. Vir and Londo saved the Centauri.
Pity Ivanova didn't say Talia.
To absent friends...rest well, Stephen Furst. You've earned it.
This show is many things.It is a great adventure that takes us along for it's ride All these years later it still has something relatable for us all.Faith Manages.....
after everything they went trough their friendship is deep one..
Stephen Furst shows here his exquisite sensitivity and grace as an actor. What an emotional range he had. Extraordinary.
The most emotional and moving scifi. i have seen long live this show in my heart snd mind
It was amazing that the story arc of B5 took the time over several episodes to say goodbye to all the wonderful characters that inhabited my existence for five short years.
5 short years, where we lived a lifetime.
Walk in the Light, though Darkness be always around you
Hold that Light dear, because Darkness is always around you
Shelter in that Light as Darkness overcomes you
Let not the Darkness be all there is
I was a bit irritated that Jeffrey Sinclair was ignored who that final toast. But, as JMS noted, some are always forgotten.
To the 14 people who gave this a thumbs down....you don't deserve to have a TV (or computer).
all people at this table except Ivanova and Sheredan are already dead. Goodbye my friends.
For those who want to re-watch the series. HBO Max has just released all 5 seasons.
Well done. But I had to have a BIG glass of wine to finish this entire episode.But it was beautifully done. 20 years..... my heart was broken for Delenn and John.Thanks for wonderful story everyone.
To absent friends...
With so many of their voices passing beyond the veil... this hits harder than ever.
breaks my heart knowing only 2 people at this table are still alive :(
To absent friends
RIP
If that scene doesn't give you a lump in the throat, there is something wrong with you.
Steven. Quite right. The other scene which is a Heartbreaker is Joe dressed in Earthforce uniform turning the power off on Babylon 5 before the end of this episode. The music breaks your heart as an old friend disappears forever.
@@robertmcqueen289
The Whole Episode.
Surprised Franklin didn't nominate Sinclair. And I know it was only because this was filmed as a Season 4 finale that no one mentioned Lochley.