Ford Dealer SHOCKS Every Truck Buyer, Why Didn't They Do THIS Sooner?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2023
- Ford trucks will NEVER be the same... Over the course of 2023 Ford Truck F150 when up in price and thousands of trucks were just sitting on lots not selling due to a 30% increase in MSRP over just 2 years. So you would thing that Ford would keep prices the same for the 2024 model so they could at least start selling trucks again. Well that ship has totally sailed and the F150 has been forever changed. It's no longer a vehicle for the middle class and is now at luxury prices. With the 2024 refresh Ford has gone even more insane raising the MSRP of the Base F150 almost $3,000 with the higher trim levels following that trend as well.
Now that the 2024 models have been revealed... I wanted to see if there were any deals to be had on the outgoing 2023 models that were wasting away on Ford lots
And what I found completely left me in shock....
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If you are an $85000 truck down to $75000, I'm still not a buyer.
Same.
47k still... NO.
@@user-li4km9rw1e yeah... still... NO. I look for deals that benefit #1, me.
Very well said. Most consumers feel this way..
@@user-li4km9rw1eNo, that's a number that has lingered since the Covid chip shortages. Fools who keep paying those prices even though there is no call for it, are the reason they keep the prices high. People are actually defending getting ripped off, which is insane.
The only way to fix this is not to buy anything from any of these thieves for years to come.
A one year buying freeze would panic the entire industry. They would be racing to offer incentives and discounts to get people back on the lots.
If consumers can bring Budweiser to it's knees because it advertised to trans people...
Consumers should crush Ford for gouging EVERYONE.
If only we could get lots of people to not buy from them for a while. They’d be letting them go for like 5 bucks 😂 greedy bastards
Right on.
Yes, DO NOT BUY
The dealers may have moved the inventory elsewhere to make it appear that sales are up. Check your local fairgrounds and other larger parking lots.
I was going to say the same thing I highly doubt they sold any of those vehicles
Exactly what I was thinking. Dealers rotate the vehicles around the lot so it looks like they are selling. Also dealerships are multi lot/brand now days. They move vehicles between different lots.
Some of those may have gone to auction just to get them off the books, or sent to other dealers.
Idc. If they are selling either way. Not paying that price ever.
I would like to know that as well. Can we confirm that they were sold?
I have been a Ford buyer since 1989 and I must say that Ford has lost it's way.
The pricing for Ford vehicle's and everyone for that matter has become absolutely ridiculous. Vehicle prices that are now more than what I paid for my home? I honestly do not know how anyone can afford a monthly truck payment and keep a roof over your head, food in the kitchen, utilities, insurance, ....Oh, and all with less money than what you would have been making in the 1980's and 1990's.
Amen!!! Every word you wrote is100% correct, and people just keep taking it.
Yep...remember when $25K was a ridiculous amount for a new F150?
Yep, I used to be a Ford buyer, but they've priced me out of the market. Now I'll drive my Tacoma as long as it will run.
The American car company made a Ford gt that no regular Americans can’t even dream of at $700,000 Then they just recently came out with a mustang that’s $400,000 yea I’d say they lost their way. The movie was Ford vs Ferrari. Should be renamed Ford wants to BE Ferrari
Time for Ram. U won't regret it
I’m in Arkansas and Ford and GM have over 200 trucks in this HUGE Freightliner semi truck parking lot. They are just lined up to the max. I asked a worker and he said that the trucks have been sitting their for month. It’s a storage spot and they get paid to hold the trucks there. These companies are so stupid. DROP THE PRICE and just sell the damn TRUCKS. They’ll pay to have them sit in a storage area instead of selling them. Makes NO SENSE AT ALL.
It makes sense when you realize that they want to maintain their astronomical pricing model. A friend of mine is paying 854 per month on a new Tundra. That's what they want you to do. They don't want to sell affordable F150s they want to sell Platinums/Raptors etc.
@@bpc701 has to be smarter.
😂, now that is real greed ....thats why US Is to expire.....
Yup.
They could be new 24’s and they don’t want customers to see any 24’s on the lot so they can push 23’s and say this is all that’s around….any smart car customer knows aug1st starts the new model year build
I make over 100k per year and I still can’t afford a new Ford f150 😂
Same me and my wife did 175k and I swear to god we still have our 2015 ford escape and refuse to buy a brand new suv or truck
Imagine me only making 60k per year, or others scraping by working 2 jobs.
The bubble will have to burst sooner or later. Hold onto your cash for now.
Same here
Buy used snd learn how to wrench
Then add the $999 dealer fee for cleaning and adjustments (that the factory pays the dealer to perform ) and the $990 worth of junk you don't want but it's already installed. Nothing but crooks.
My mom bought a nice used vehicle 48k and they washed it and you still couldn’t see out the back window, looked like grease was wiped on it 😂 we had to clean it
Not sure how 45K for a base truck is anywhere near refreshing.
Well... it's just the cheapest I have seen all year. weird times.
For what is most likely a truck that will generate revenue, it’s not bad honestly.
It's a joke for a work truck price
Adjusting for inflation, that's what my 2010 F-150 XLT S/C 145" Wheelbase truck listed for. I got it for $24,005. I'll probably never buy another new one again.
Yup.
The cheapest one is still $10K more than what I paid in 2018.
Yeah, even Toyota is not allowing affordable cars to ship to USA or be built in USA. A lot of people are buying those used imported Japanese small utility vehicles. Screw new cars and new trucks in USA. The greed is ridiculous. Toyota sells 7 million cars worth year but USA only gets the most expensive cars/trucks. Then the greed of the third party port deliverers force add on packages, then the greed of dealers is a triple "F You".
Yep. No thanks
@A.D.D808
I bought a used low mi, mint XLT 2-1/2 yrs ago from a dealer. Got an email from them last wk, they offered me $2000 more than what I pd for the truck, taxes and all. Never in 40 yrs has this happened, driving it for all this time and make money off it
Yup, I bought a 2019 STX in November of 2019 at $37k before taxes with an MSRP of 42k and some change. 4x2 with the 5.0 good truck
Amen
Let them go Bankrupt. No tax payers bail out !!!!
Biden would bail out unions
I agree 100%. These truck prices as well as car prices are way out of hand, an it's going to be worse with the new contacts that those overworked underpaid auto workers got. These automanufactures an workers will eventually put their selfs out of business an jobs. Ford an the rest of the pickup manufacturers have no reason to make these trucks cheaper because their protected by the Chicken tax put on foreign Pick Ups from over seas , any pick built overseas is charged this tax so they can't sell cheap Pickups here. That's why they build alot of them here to avoid that tax, yet they are still getting overpriced to.
Yeah fuck the bailouts
I agree, However the bailout will come with our money 😢
Bet they’re already “negotiating” a bail out. We have Billions for Ukraine so bailing ford out should be a simple matter of printing more cash, Biden style.
I live on and own a farm and need a new truck to use as a tool, which is what a truck is supposed to be, but I can't justify spending that much on a truck. So I hit the internet and found a 1985 F-250HD 4x4 extended cab 100% rust free with the 460 big block 130k original miles 4-speed for 5 grand i definitely don't regret passing on a new over priced full of issue's new truck that im not even able to work on when needed. A truck that will never last 38 years like the 85 i just purchased. For the money I saved, the old 85 can be fully rebuilt 10 times over. Ford, GM, and Ram can go belly up for all I care they went from building affordable vehicle's for the public to building vehicles for the elite. They for got who it was that made thim the companies they have become. Working-class Americans built their companies. If it wasn't for us, they would not exist, and now that they have turned their backs on us, they can sink. Anyone that supports what they have become and keeps buying this overpriced junk supporting their greed is pathetic.
Well said!
Exactly. You've broken the code...
The suits at the manufacturers live in a bubble and not real life.
tundra. more of it is made in USA then Ford anyway
I’m guessing your 85 has an 8 foot bed as well, something non-existent on new “work” trucks. I have been driving a 71 GMC for 20 years, and tried working it to death, but didn’t succeed.
They wanted this strike as an excuse to keep prices high. I can't fathom people actually pay these prices. But apparently they still do.
That only works if there aren't cars to buy. They're OK with the strike so they can quit making cars. The dealers would be OK so they aren't carrying inventory that isn't moving.
When I was 16 years old I bought my first car for $25. It ran well and was a very good car. When my parents found out I had this car I had to get rid of it and I resold it for $75. Today's prices seem a little steep to me.
PT Barnum is credited with this quote , "Never overestimate the intelligence of the American consumer"......
At 19 yrs old, I bought my second car for $350. A like new 1966 Ford Galaxie. 390/Cruiseomatic. Sold it 12 years later for $650 with about 200,000 hard miles on it!
The "truck" market proves barnham right. They got people paying triple price for something that isn't even a truck.
Yea you can't even buy a cheeseburger for 25 bucks!
@@George-dy3pt On top of that, my friends and i would chip in $1.50 for some gas and we could drive it all day.....
Or Canadian voter.
Dealers were ripping off customers, not Ford. Get rid of the dealer network.
MSRP comes from Ford. That’s the starting point, then the dealer mark ups begin on top of it. They’re both guilty.
I remember many years ago thinking $25k for a new truck was outrageous.
I doubt they sold that many trucks since yourlast video. They're sitting in a lot somewhere making inventory seem less like they have been doing the last few years.
I’m not sure this dealer has an extra lot. At least I have never seen it.
The ford near me parks their extra inventory at the local malls parking garage, looks like tons of Mach-e also
They all have extra lots somewhere, at least the big dealerships do here. They rotate their inventory all the time to make it look like they are selling.
If they don’t have an extra lot they will just rent one.
Probably making space for the over priced 2024’s that are coming
The practice of adding $5000 to $10000 to an already high MSRP has soured me on buying a new car. The dealer is the worst place to buy a car, I’ve always felt that their main goal is to get as much money out of you as possible and that practice of adding to the MSRP shows their greed. If I had ordered a new car on an already agreed upon price and when it came in they wanted an additional $10000.00 I would have been pretty pissed off. We should be able to order directly from the manufacturer and have the car delivered to you when completed . Like the way you buy a washer or any other major appliance, no markups.
It is every company that wants to get the most money out of you as possible. That is called capitalism. With that said, the ADM values tacked on and business practices such as trying to tack on ADM after an order, should have been a breach of contract and winnable in a court of law. That was pure greed. So, if the stealerships suffer now because of it, I am good with that.
In 2016 I bought a new xlt crew cab 302a package with the 5.0. I had every option except the pano sunroof. I paid 38k. It’s insane what they’re asking for now. My utility bills have almost doubled since then, along with my grocery’s, and property tax. Who can afford these trucks. Ford has really let me down, it’s simply not worth what they’re asking for.
So, you say that your utility bills have almost doubled, your property taxes have almost doubled, your groceries also. Are you trying to say that it’s ford that has made those things double in price? Look at the current administration for your woes
So according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics inflation calculator, $38,000 in Jan of 2016 now is equivalent to $49,774.55! I am in no way justifying these prices, but the $$$$ doesn't go as far today, AND, maybe even crazier, 2016 is almost a decade behind us now. I guess what I am getting at is that I reside within the same mindset, but I try to remind myself time is flying by and our economy has changed.
Farley is taking a big dump on Henry Fords legacy. Henry Ford took pride in building vehicles for the common man. I pledge to never buy a Ford product again.
But aren't the other companies doing the same thing, or am I wrong?
They are probably trying to offset the horrible losses they are experiencing on the EV side.
and the billions in taxes and fines from not paying the import tax on transit connects they knew they were legally obligated to pay (since they refused to produce a small cargo van in the USA)
thats a very good point actually
Of course they are.
Good point. Never thought of that.
Toyota,Honda,Nissan and Hyundai are taking all the sales from the sedans Ford stop selling, like the Focus, Fusion, Fiesta. Also they are removing the Ford Escape because is not selling. Ford is going down if continues with this path. Asian manufactures are not playing games.
Wonder how Henry Ford would feel about this price gouging? His motto was "affordable vehicles for everyday people", doesn't sound like the business he built is holding that up.
Them days as long gone. It's all about greed and it will continue as long as they keep selling.
The sound of Henry Ford spinning in his grave hurts my ears
The Founding Fathers of America are not being held up.
The visions of the men that created the 20 century have been twisted beyond perversion.
If Henry Ford and Sam Walton where here today everyone of these criminal Scam artist would be broke and many put in JAIL, right Biden and Obama?
Yea i am betting they are not selling but shipping them to their other dealerships as Lithia is across multiple states. Also, if people are wondering how they can charge so much, many of these trucks are bought under businesses and written off. Problem is it puts the average person out of the market, Ford does not care because with the tax laws, a business will put 35k miles on it, then trade it back in, take the tax credit again, that is what they do.
Its called inflation dude. Stop blaming companies. Its the governments fault.
@@josephsoileau8465 Oh please, it is well documented that companies are using the inflation excuse for increasing their prices way more than necessary.
@@josephsoileau8465There is plenty of blame to go around. Yes, there have been governmental causes of inflation. Meanwhile, every time it costs an extra 50¢ for a part, the manufacturer rounds it up to a dollar and then blames "inflation." They're making record profits per unit off these trucks. That wouldn't be possible if the price increase was purely due to inflation.
@@TheCharleseye just wait a see what vehicle prices will be if this UAW gets what it wants. A 40% raise and a day off with pay. A truck that is 68k today will be $70+k
@@paulhunter9613 Okay. I can get a long block for my truck for about $6,000 and a transmission for about the same. I'll just keep driving my truck while the world loses its mind.
I’d like to see a decent truck for under 40k it’s insane how much vehicles cost these days
They’ll go right back to gouging on the 2024s.
They can’t. Bidenomics
I paid 2500 bucks for a used F150 almost a decade ago now with a god tier 6 cylinder with a stick and a 6.5ft bed and it seats 6 ppl. It had 26k OTD when I got it. AC blows cold and its
now got over 700k miles, I know how to replace everything on the truck which itself is rare in itself but I could probably rebuild the engine and transmission for less than 1 month if car payment and insurance on a new one. It tows up to around 7500lbs just fine with 1500lbs in the bed and 6 grown adults in the cab and can hold 80mph on the interstate this loaded and stops just fine as well.
I am literally gonna be driving this thing to a million miles, maybe Ford will give me a new 5.0? 😏
The issue is that finding a base model is impossible. Every last one comes with 10-20K in padding and dealer profit in the way of useless options.
As someone who just sold my 2020 and 2022 F-350 for endless quality control probelms and recalls, lack of parts availability and dealerships that are incompetant and theives, I would highly encourage you to buy another brand unless you like spending $80k for a piss poor experience.
Vehicles get you from A to B. People seem to have forgotten this. You shouldnt have to pay your yearly salary for a vehicle
Manufactures add too much crap to cars. I am not a truck driver. In fact I drive only sports cars. I have a 2001 Miata and won’t trade it because new Miata’s have too much garbage. I just sold a lotus Elise for thousands more than I paid for it. Maybe because it is a pure sport car without all the fancy displays. I’ll keep the Miata until everything goes electric and gas stations begin to disappear. Horses disappeared and so will ICE cars. Eventually gas cars will be more expensive than BEVs…
Truck sales are always high in the last quarter especially in December due to businesses needing tax write offs. As long as the vehicle is 6000 lb gvwr or more you can sometimes take a 100% deduction off the top of your income in the first year without having to depreciated it annually. Then years later when you sell it you only get taxed on the sale price of the vehicle (of course much less than the sticker was when you bought it). If you trade it in then it rolls into that years deduction. The tax deduction not only saves you the money on taxes when sold but the initial write off can bump you to a lower tax bracket depending on your income saving you many percent in taxes for that year. Of course clearing out the current year inventory usually is additional incentive for salesmen. Also ford fleet often has additional discounts if you are a fleet buyer. Only thing you need to be a fleet buyer is to have your business paperwork. You can still buy just one truck under their fleet program.
Never trade in, you can always get more by personally selling it
I stumbled upon a parking garage once that was filled with brand new cars that several dealers in the area used for overflow. With student loans kicking in and inflation putting a wooping on everyone, its just not a good time to buy anything. Credit scores are taking a beating since people are using their credit cards just to survive. Its rough out here. Every Lyft driver Ive had recently has a story to tell. EVERYONE is going thru it
Price gauging fuxxed up the whole market
Eco boost had a big recall, need to drop those numbers lol
The Ford Maverick is a perfect example. Introduced with A $19000 base price, somehow it's inflated to over $30,000, for a USED ONE! WT?
Yup Maverick prices went insane. Such bull shit. A fully loaded lariat is 40,000 lol.
$50k is still way too much for a truck for most people, ford nailed it with the $20k Maverick but failed to follow through on making enough
The last Ford I bought, was an 08 F150 XLT. It had the 5.4 Triton V8, 3.73 rear end, crew cab with the 6 1/2 ft bed. It stickered for just over 35k. I got it out the door for 28k! That's where truck prices need to be! My current truck is a 16 Ram 2500, Laramie, diesel, short bed. I bought it in April of 17. It was a dealer demo,. It only had 6k miles on it. I got it for 50k and some change out the door with a factory certified extended warranty! I still own this truck. Only has 60k on it now. I use it to mainly pull our camper and side x side.
Not that long ago the bottom trim and the top trim level were 10k difference. Now it's 30-35k .... the auto industry is 100% insane
I'll keep my 02 supercrew with 129k miles. Just did the rocker panels and cleaning up the undercarriage. Hopefully get me another 10 years out of it. I can afford to buy a new truck but why. So grossly overpriced. The big 3 have lost there way
In the last recession they were doing 17500-21000 off on trucks that stickered under 50k.. It will come back just not as soon with the refresh hitting. People will be pushing to buy those and replace the older models for a bit.
The ford dealer in my town is leasing an old car lot down the road from me to house all their f150s. There is so many! They are overflowing with trucks. How can these prices stand man.
Great job on the videos, informative, simple and to the point. Just what we want to know 👍
$51k MSRP for a base model F150. This dealership is drunk.
No government bailout when these P.O.S. fail.
Ford didn't take a bailout in 2008 either.
They already got 9.5 billion from govt. Sinking with electric car production. Pay attention
They already got 9.5 billion from govt. Sinking with electric car production. Pay attention
@@1001HobbiesFord took 9.5 billion this year from govt..choking trying to build electric ars. U should know this. Worst car company presently
@@ubeuonlyand gave it to tesla so ford can use its superchargers
June 26, 2023, I bought a new Nissan Titan Pro 4X that stickered at $61660 and they gave me a $7,000 discount and financed it at 0%. It's loaded with everything I could have wanted and is a beautiful truck. My last two trucks were Fords but I am really happy with my Nissan Titan with the comfort, power, looks, and quiet and comfortable ride. It's not as good on gas as an ecoboost and it does recommend premium fuel but that is as close as I can come to criticizing it. I'm retired and don't drive that many miles so the fuel economy doesn't concern me.
Looked the other day at possibly up grading my dually. To have one like we have now is over 100k. We'll keep what we have.
If those F150's had only kept up with inflation over the last 35 years, those $45K trucks would only be $30K now and the $70K trucks would only be $35K. The higher trim levels didn't used to inflate the price nearly as much in the 80's. A new Lariat XLT cost 35% of a new college grad's starting salary back then, not 55% like today.
Alot of those probably didn't sell to consumers. I think alot of these over stocked dealers sell them to other smaller dealers when they need more inventory
That's entirely possible.
Thanks again for the update.
$40k is what the F-150 Lightning was first advertised at selling at in 2022. Ford has been doing flat prices raises on everything from $1k to $20k over a yr and plan to do more increases in 2024, this rate will price out every buyer.
Except a supercrew 4x4 2.7 xl stx use to be msrp of around $45k in 21 now their $51-$52
prices are absolutely nutso and these dealers are not willing to deal on anything its crazy. We have dealers around here that have had trucks on their lot for over 200 days.....with only 500 bucks off
I have a 2017 configured almost the same but it’s a super crew. Its sticker was $47k. After ford and dealer discounts it was like $35k. It’s only 6 years old. I know times are tough and everything got more expensive but 30% is a lot when dealing with what is already a lot. I know people that needed new trucks that are paying $1200 a month for an XLT! 😵
Bought a '20 F150 XL, cruise/chrome bumpers/one touch up/down windows and alloy wheels. Listed 32K, bought for 26.5K. This is the crazy part, drove it for two years (40K mi) and sold it for a little more than I paid for it. Bought a Maverick hybrid for MSRP (24.5) with the money. Crazy market
I wonder if Ford has been incentivized to make the prices of the internal combustion vehicles, to the same or more than they’re charging for an electric. By the Rich Man at 1600. (That’s Mr. 10% to you!)
How do you know if they sold the ones that are sitting?
Maybe they moved them on to other dealers?
Thanks for giving an update. Enjoy watching your videos.
I won’t pay it. I bought a 2012 Chevy 4500 Duramax diesel retired ambulance for $2000. I did most of the work myself to rebuild it. All in I’m up to $34k. Everything is new but the block. The truck is an extended cab 11’4” CM flatbed now. I did upgrade the front coils and rear springs for a 550 rated weighted level. 8,000lbs empty weight and getting 19/21 mpg local driving. The best part, it’s paid for.
I was just at my local Ford dealer, I was looking at the Ranger 10k more then the listed price, they had a used one 2020 with 10,000 miles for 45k, I walked off, way too much
They've realized that instead of pumping out trucks and offering discounts they can create artificial supply chain shortages combined with a "luxury" pricing model to make more money. "Our bronco is finally here and they want 10K extra!" you're rich, you can afford it, pay up moneybags.
After discovering my 2022 Lighting wasn’t going to meet my needs, I think I’m done with Ford Trucks. My previous 5 new vehicle purchases have been 2 F150s and 3 Mustangs. They have crossed the line though. Bought a Nissan pickup and couldn’t be happier at the value it offers for the money.
Have a good friend who thought he wanted a new Ford Bronco truck, but after driving it, he said it seemed like a cheap POS compared to his old one. No sale.
50k$ over what I paid 11 years ago, prices are insane
@@shootermcgavin4999Agree, i paid about 145k for a place in 2008, now the same is about 350k. Now add the interest rates. I have no idea how anyone can even think on buying a house unless it's 50+years old.
Analysts have shown that 51% of the increase in prices for all products wasn’t inflation, but manufacturers increased markups. In other words, from food to trucks, 51% of the increases from 2020 wasn’t supply chain or other obstacles. It was greed that companies used inflation numbers much worse than it should have been. And after inflation started to drop, they decided to keep the markups. It wasn’t a secret. Many companies announced it during their stockholders meetings.
It ain't inflation if you have record profits.
Same frustration here back 6 months ago looking for new F150. Ended up buying a low milage used one and saved thousands.
Thanks for your divulging the state of the marketplace today. I've owned King Ranch, Platinum, Lariat, and finally the Lariat F250 Super Duty, and I will tell you I'm not prepared to pay more than 10% more for a new rig, than we paid for our 2015 F250. That would put me as a buyer in the low to mid 60's. When they went aluminum, everything went nuts. And the 6.7 diesel.....good grief. I remember on my 2013 F250 the engine option was over $6,500. Now look at the price - over 10K! Ridiculous. I may go a totally different direction and look at Hyundai Santa Fe or something completely different. $55K is more than enough for a 4-5 star vehicle in 2024. Love to hear your thoughts.
I doubt they sold them. They definitely transferred them somewhere else. Lol
It’s good to see that you could buy some trucks under the $50,000 price. Hell, if I had to trade in my 18 Sierra to save on fuel or to upgrade tech, I would think about getting one of the eco-boost for $45,000.
Don’t buy an eco boost,I’m on my 3 rd motor,2016 f150
I will never buy ford again.
@@nhmike6890 wow, sorry to hear that man.
Eco boost suck !
Was planning on getting a new truck last year but the prices were so hi. I just decided to fix the frame at a frame specialist and the 2008 f150 old girl is good for another couple years
I have a bare bones reg cab 2005 manual shift gmc canyon it has a/c but manual windows, door locks etc. we just bought a new maverick xl, AWD. The starting MSRP in 2005 for the canyon was $17755, adjusted for inflation that’s equivalent to $26,900-about $1000.00 less than the AWD Maverick
new mass recall must have something to do with it.
“Nice that they’re giving discounts”, are you for real? You said it yourself, “sticker prices up 30% in the last couple of years”. They’ve jacked the prices up so high, folks now buying them at a $5000 off discount… thinking they’re getting a decent deal. My apologies if I seem harsh, I think the reporting you’re doing is great but these deals are not deals. We live in a world where a loaded half ton pick-up is $80,000 🤦🏻♂️ think about that for a minute. Ford for years was my favorite pick-up (diesel HD’s), and I would purchase a new one every 2 to 3 years. I have recently purchased a RAM and will never touch a Ford again I promise you…I’m tired of their bullshit antics.
I was just trying to be a bit more positive on this and less doom and gloom. lol. I'm still gonna RIP ford for these price increases coming up.
Tell it how it is my friend, fair firm and consistent.
Yep. Still a NO. If u want your house to catch fire, get a RAM.
It's sad that dealers only give a s*** to lower prices when there's a mid-cycle refresh or a full redesign on the way. They should be practicing this all the time. Even if the next year is a carry-over with no changes, they should still treat it like a new generation and make an effort to heavily discount that current model year inventory for the next model year. Also, those discounts are nowhere near enough where they should be. Once they're in the $30K realm, then we're talkin'.
Dealers have nothing to do with factory rebaits and MSRP. That all comes from the manufacture.
That 53k truck, the dealer tag showed it reduced from 51k to 46, so the real price is already 48k before ttl. On a base model
They are empty because they are on strike the inventories are dropping because they are not getting new trucks in.
True
That's a good thought to what is contributing to the lower inventory. Ford truck sales are also up I think 30% in the last quarter. I think the discounts are helping that.
@@MotorFeed what discounts ?
The discounts I showed in my video.@@chrissikora3359
I think people are feeling the inflation enough that it is putting a stop to people buying these over priced trucks. I know I have the credit and ability to get one I just decided I was not going to pay the prices anymore. I cannot see myself investing that much money into something that will depreciate fast and probably not last as long as trucks out a few years ago. I decided to buy a 2003 GMC from and elderly man. Got it for 6 grand and it was garaged. I can get a new remanufactured transmission from GM for 2300 and a new engine from Powertrain products for around 2800 when it needs a new engine etc. With the body in new condition it was cheaper to go that route than to lose 70 grand on a new one. I would rather invest 70 grand into something that appreciates.@@MotorFeed
If I were to spend that kinda money on a truck it would be something that would last like a Tundra or Tacoma
Tacoma all day!
@@MotorFeed I'm no longer interested in tacomas for the 2024 model. Going to a turbo 4 cylinder motor kills it for me. To much uncertainty in reliability for me.
@@dustincollins16Exactly! I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw 4 cylinder on a Tacoma I was just looking at.
@@dustincollins16 Honestly the V6 Tacoma is a slow dog and a 4cylinder turbo will probably be a vast improvement. There are a lot of really good 4 cylinder turbos and some of these old V6 engines have been under powered for the last 20 years.
@@burntvirtue you mean 4 cylinder turbo. Nothing wrong with 4 cylinder 2tr-fe Tacomas if you can find them. Those engines last longer than v6 if you don't tow boats.
Its both, interest rates and sale prices. If you cannot buy a new vehicle at or below MSRP, then they're still too high.
yeah you get all those discounts if your credit is perfect. i wouldn't be surprised if those missing trucks found their way into fleet sales.
The RICH get RICHER and the POOR get POORER - the MIDDLE CLASS will just GO AWAY.
People need to decide if they truly NEED a new truck, or do they simply WANT a new truck.
I'd LOVE to have one, but I don't NEED one so I'll just stay out of the market.
Bring back a real truck. Vinyl floors, manual select 4WD, manual, windows, none of the 45K truck crap
Seems like there is a market for this sort of thing... why isn't there any company trying to fill it??
My Bronco dealer was awesome, I got a 23 after a year and even got the 23 price increase off, I bought my 23 Outlander 5% under MSRP !
I bought a '21 F150-XLT in November of 2021, pretty much loaded (to package w/360 cameras, LED headlights, auto-trailer backing) for $39K, out of the lot. That included, destination, sales tax, and registration. Ford had $6000 in rebates, including $1000 rebate on 36mo zero interest financing. This was in the middle of the supply chain problems (I worked for a tier-1 Ford supplier so I know how hard parts were to get). I'm glad I'm not buying one now!
Who’s buying trucks at $80K. I’m surprised they sell any trucks at that price
I remember when my father bought a cord ranger for the same price as a small car. Back before the regulations killed small affordable trucks. I believe he paid less than 10k for it in 1990.
I paid $8800 for a new 1988 Ranger XLT. That would be about 23K now. And the Maverick is over 30K. That's all the proof I need that there is a major problem.
No one I know is buying below an XLT. Most look at Lariat or higher and those prices are insane. A 150 Lariat that can top out at 78k Insane!!!
Just purchased a 2023 STX 4x4 w/ Blackout package, 2 weeks ago. Truck was discounted several thousand, I got 1.9% for 72 months and the dealer gave me 32k for my 2020 f-150 ( I owed 19k) walked away with the same payment at a much lower interest rate for only 2 extra years. Good deal.
Well done! Seems like the best deal I've seen in a while.
@@MotorFeed It was, too good to pass on. I'm seeing a lot of similar deals here in the Charlotte NC area.
You must have a typo. There is NO Way in Hell the Dealer gave you $32k for a 02 in trade. I'm not sure you would get $32k for a 22 right now
@@jakemeyers9303 yup, 2020. Lol
And these auto workers want 45% raise? That will just increase the price of the trucks more. They still won’t be able forward to buy one.
A dealer by me has had an F150 on the lot for 200+ days and refuses to work with me on a deal. They just keep coming back with the same price.
In 2008, I bought a new/ leftover 2007 Silverado 3500 dually cab and chassis with the 12' "chassis". I paid $18,000 for it and sold it for $14,000 in 2014... I sure wish I had it back.
just checked on local v8 4 door 2wd msrp around $60k + $6000+ tax and license and shipping etc. I'll buy the Vette for that kind of money and keep my 03.
Prices really aren’t that bad. Depends what Ecoboost is in it tho. 2.7 is basic, awesome power train don’t get me wrong, but 3.5 Ecoboost or 5.0 is where it’s at. You’ve got to expect 45k-65k for a (3.5 or 5.0) 4-door F150. Need to get the MaxTow package for the 36gal gas tank.
How do you go on the dealer lot without anyone bothering you?? I just like to go to look at where prices are at sometimes and I hate getting flooded with dealers.
What if they moved the extra F150s to some remote storage area. A F150 junk yard. Could be a bad assumption that they sold those trucks.
looks like I'm going to have to go out of town to get this kind of prices, here in the area where I live around 150 mile radius everything is overpriced and very little discounts, owners are way too greedy, I hope they don't sell crap, and they want to give you almost nothing for your trades.
Give it a couple of years folks. Let's hold out until the market resets.
I haven't bought a new car since we paid $27K for my wife's Subaru Outback in 2019, so maybe I'm a bit out of touch but I could not see me paying even $45K for a base pickup truck. I guess it's good that dealers are finally lowering prices, but they are still too damn high! I did order a Maverick about 6 months ago that I'll be paying about $30K for when it arrives in a couple weeks.
Empty rows only means they shipped them to another dealership that actually sells trucks to people.
Some dealerships only transfer/sell to other dealers
I saw this with Subaru msrp then I saw ads from dealer in Palm Springs $10 k more a few weeks later
Gas goes back up to $5/gallon you can forget these going anywhere.
And carmakers would probably want to start making entry level compact sedans again, if gas gets more expensive and dealers are stuck with expensive trucks and SUV's that they can't sell, even with discounts.
In SE Minnesota some of the dealerships are discounting Ford F150’s up to $14,000.00
Man I paid $32K for my 2010 FX4 5.4 Crew Cab brand new. Just hit 150k miles on it and Ive been looking at new ones recently. Im amazed how much they are now. Another thing to consider is tax. Im in CA and sales tax is almost 10%. All the dealer discounts goes bye bye.
22 Years Ago I Gave 19,000 For A New Ford F-150 Work Truck With Air A/C Automatic V-8 , A Good Work Truvk with Extend Cab, NOW it's Insane !!!!!!! My Two bedroom Home was Only 32,000 plus Tax , NOW That's Gone Insane !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!