These Are the Top 3 Used Trucks You Should Never, EVER Buy!
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The HEMI tick issue is a bit more complicated than described. There are 2 issues. One is the lifter tick that you mentioned. It is actually the less common tick. Caused (generally) by high idle time on the engine, since the stock oil pump drops oil pressure down into the 30s (psi), while it normally runs into the mid-high 50s while running. My 77k mile 2015 Hemi Ram Limited has about 2000 hours total on the engine, and only about 200 hours of that is idle time. I do everything in my power to reduce idling the engine. There is evidence out there that the nest way to prevent this is to increase the idle oil pressure by swapping to the 6.2L Hemi oil pump, as it is a bolt on swap. The housings on the pump are the same, but the 6.2L pump has extra teeth, internally that cause a higher oil pressure while at idle, helping to ensure the lifters get oiled while not under load. The other tick is far more common and is cause by broken studs/exhaust manifold. Generally while the engine is cold, the broken stud allows the exhaust manifold to pull away from the block slightly, so that when started, the "slapping" of the manifold causes a ticking sound. Once the engine is warmed up, this tick will generally go away. From my research this is due to different metals being mated together, but I cannot personally validate that. Perhaps swapping to headers is the best fix?
Yep. Mechanic here and also have owned a 5.7 hemi of that era. That is 100% a exhaust manifold tick, not a lifter tick
Exactly- This tick (the first Ram) is an exhaust leak
Another mechanic here. Can confirm. Thanks for explaining it to people.
Are these also the engines that had valve seat issues? The hardened valve seats were pressed into the heads - but since they were made of different metals they would expand and contract at different rates. Sometimes dropping the valve seat into the cylinder.
@@christopher7026 - I cant say. I do not pretend to be a mechanic, but since this is my engine, I made it a point to know the flaws. I can say that I have not heard of that issue with this gen of Hemi. :)
Please get Andre to do more of these videos on what NOT to buy. Very informative!
I’m glad you are doing this. You guys always compare and show how great a a brand new 100k truck is but not how crappy they are going to be in a few years. Every thing is nice new.
Thank you for the feedback!
Absolutley. And MAINTENANCE! When you review a new car or truck, rarely is required maintenance and costs discussed.
💯 Review 8 yr old vehicles as you would new ones. That's where the value proposition is when looking at $75,000 trucks.
@@TFLtruckoh no, my disabled vet of 15 years mom, and me also disabled, was shot in my heart when I was 8 and in coma and my mom, with 2 other children, became the head of comm command of NASA, and Patrick Afb as a single mom, then was in a nuclear silo without a suit and there was an accident, and she burned her lungs, she was 34, and she had coughed and been on oxygen since, she is in bad shape, but we spent 25 years poor and struggling since, finally after a long battle she finally got compensated from the military, 140k was it in 2008, after a long fight, we bought a new kia sorento and spent many years getting her credit good, recently she was given bad news by the doctor that she is in the final stages of her life, I have taken care of her since the accident and have had a really hard life, I also have really bad diabetes and all she has is me, we were living in a 2 bedroom apartment upstairs and were scammed by a bug guy who got busted, and had to throw away our stuff and move, she could no longer go up the stairs anyway, and we are in a better place now and I am trying hard to get her a bed that lifts and a chair, all she has is this bad chair that I hate, we right before we moved got a 2014 chevy 5.3 Silverado, with 123k miles, for 22k, and thank god we thought, the loan was excepted, the truck is in great shape, and I love it, finally we have something nice for once, I have had it 6 weeks now, and then I see this video and me and my moms heart sank, i can't believe it, it figures, we have such horrible luck, i don't know what to do now, we are so sad now, and yes i have noticed something weird going on with the shifting, and the headlights are horrible, have something wrong with lenses, and noticed surges in the electrical, and the locks locking me out, something weird is going on, we don't know what to do😢 I can't believe it, we finally get a nice truck, it also has exhaust mods, and nice 22 rims, tint, but the a/c is not cold like it should be also, I have a bad feeling now 😢 Should we take it back and trade it for something else, do you have any advice 4 a great year chevy, with good headlights,
a/c and no issues? Around 22k, and omg we finally have the credit and got the loan, got approved, after 20 years of working on my moms credit, just me and my mom alone, both disabled, and it just figures we buy the worst year for chevy witn drivetrain issues, and I feel something to, is it even possible to change the loan for a different truck?😢😢😢 My mom really sick, and now we are so depressed after watching this, it's the exact same truck, mines red though with after market rims, front brakes and exhaust, also the gas mileage is fluctuating bad, from like 8 to 15 mpg, something weird electrical, weird shifts, bad a/c, and popping noises in front end when slight brake is applied, the headlights suck bad, one shock is squeaking, but the worst thing is definitely the hard and off sync shifts, I have a bad feeling, are we just out of luck?😢 please help us😢
Ram 5.7l has an exhaust manifold leak. Not lifter tick
That’s what I thought as well by the sound.
100% correct that is a warped exhaust manifold and broken bolts from the manifold to the head. I see this constantly on the hemi and triton engines. The log style exhaust manifold designs all warp and snap studs or bolts.
We had 32 of the ram trucks in our work fleet. A bit over half had the tick and everyone of them was a lifter tick.
Lifters stick and wear out cam lopes. Another common problem with these crap motors
It’s probably both
Tick on the Ram is exhaust manifold leaking. The valvetrain on that particular engine sounds ok - as the rev descend with the throttle closed the engine didn’t make any ticking noise.
I though the same thing. That guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
He never does
These guys are extremely annoying and generally clueless. On the Ram, It’s the exhaust manifold bolts in the rear of the manifold that are broke. Common issue. They take a truck that has been beat to crap and categorically chastise it.
@@bigman55434 common issue on GM's LS based engines too
Please keep this older vintage truck content coming!
If you keep watching - we will keep making it.
you call those "older"?😂
@@TFLtruck I vote too. New subscriber and will keep watching. Thank you!
3:10 That noise is actually a cracked exhaust manifold, which the 5.7 is notorious for. That wasn't lifter tick.
I’ve seen many exhaust bolts break & cause the exhaust leak. GM has the exact same problem.
Thank you for letting us know!
yup! you can hear when you rev the engine. change the manifold it will quiet down
The exhaust manifold bolts break and you get an exhaust leak that sounds like a tick. I have new manifolds and bolts, thanks to a service contract we bought. On our 2016 Ram Sport
Still a dodge ram either way. JUNK
That ticking your hearing with the ram is the exhaust leak. The passenger side manifold cracks around the rear bolt. On start up you will definitely hear it but once the engine warms up it will go away because the manifold will expand. I have had several of these trucks and everyone has had this issue.
Exactly. TFL likes to pass around bad info instead of actually researching.
It's the lifters. These trucks have horrible lifter issues, I've owned two.
But you aren't completely wrong as the exhaust manifold does start to tic eventually but it's definitely different
The lifter issue has nothing to do with mds, it’s related to trucks that idled for long periods. The hemi design lifted the location of the camshaft leading to poor oiling when oil pressure is low. Higher pressure oil pump can fix this
@@KevinMartin1028 Yup, they do it all the time. I tend to feel that they intentionally do it so they get more comments
I second that. I rarely saw lifter issues in hemi but lifter and overhead cam issue in 3.6 option but farely simple job as well to swap them out .
That's not lifter Tick on the RAM, that is clearly a leaking exhaust manifold which is common.
I agree
Yup. Rockie mistake 🤦🏾♂️
Thank you for letting us know.
There is also a fuel injector tick that can sometimes be mistaken for the lifter. But that is definitely not the lifter tick. Goes away after 30 seconds. Mine has both exhaust manifolds that have warped on the backend of the engine
Ohh no a ram guy getting booty tickled
2011 6.7L diesel was a complete different engine. The 6.4L, 6.0L, 7.3L, and 6.9L diesels were all Navistar engines. The 6.7L was Ford's first in house built pickup diesel.
You could also get that generation body with the 6.0l diesel as well
@@devbloggs Pre-2008 model year, yes. 2008 saw the crackdown on diesel exhaust particulates. It was the beginning of the worst diesel engines ever built across the entire diesel segment. So bad that it put 2 diesel manufacturers completely out of the game. Navistar in light duty pickups and Caterpillar in the heavy trucks.
@@devbloggswhat?
cummins was great then!@@brianhunt5635
@@devbloggsWhat are you talking about? Yes, the panels were the same but the interior and a lot of other things were changed in 2011…even more so in 2013.
The tick is most likely an exhaust leak from the manifold. The manifolds get hot and start to warp and the bolts break. This is very common in this generation of Ram. If you change the oil frequently and take care of the truck. It will run forever. My 2015 Ram has been amazing to me beside the manifold leaks.
I had a ‘14 Ram with 14 recalls/TSBs. After 90k miles one thing after another broke on it and I maintained it impeccably. That trashed out interior on that auction Ram told me all I needed to know about it, whether the tick was a lifter or the exhaust manifold. If the owner neglected it that badly, it’s a bright red flag for me.
My 2014 RAM currently in the shop after engine swap 2 years ago. They say it's under warrenty which is great yet pittiful. Stellantis get you're sh*t together or you are going to die. I see your product sitting on dealer parking lots for month over month over month
My 2015 ram as 144,000 miles, has only needed struts and an alternator…
@@joshkrause2977 you are one of the lucky ones, my friend! Keep that thing until the wheels fall off, and keep doing whatever you’re doing to maintain it because it seems to be working.
Exactly!! Unless it was mega dirt cheap, I would've ran away!
That's funny because I buy the dodges that are beat on purpose cuz I can get em cheap, replace a sensor then weld a plow to it and call it a day lmao.
We have a 2015 Ram 1500 Laramie crew cab 4x4 with the EcoDiesel engine. We bought it new in 2016, and we've used it to tow a 28' travel trailer. It's our favorite vehicle to drive for long trips. It's extremely comfortable to drive and gets excellent fuel mileage. The big problem with this truck is that it has had 9 factory recalls so far. The local Chrysler/Ram dealer never seems to have the parts needed to correct the item under recall, and we're still waiting for a new fuel pump that was recalled nearly 9 months ago.
The eco diesels aren’t that great. 5.7s are way better
I have a '16 EcoDiesel also. I used to love it but after it was recalled for a mandatory de-tune for emissions the off-line performance was destroyed to the point that is almost dangerous at intersections because it lags so badly when cold. The fuel economy is also now not as good. Otherwise, it has been reliable (except for a DEF injector replacement) for 146,000 km but there are so many negative comments about it that I am becoming uncomfortable about keeping it.
100% that noise on the RAM is exhaust manifold leaking, just had mine replaced on my '16 before warranty ran out. However, knowing that they can have lifter issues and given the appearance of the interior I would steer clear of that particular truck because it probably wasn't properly maintained (i.e. proper oil and filter changes) which is a major factor in the lifter failures.
Thanks guys for doing this video. When I bought my 2012 Ram 1500 with 4.7L v-8 in 2016 it had 34k miles on it. A mechanic friend of mine said that 4.7’s were good. When I showed my brother who’s mechanic, said that by 100k miles, I’ll have to rebuild or replace the engine. The truck has 135,350 trouble free miles on it, I keep it maintained, no hot Roding, etc. It’s the newest vehicle that I’ll ever own, the others in the driveway is ‘93 Chevy Silverado with 5.7L & ‘02 Yukon XL with 5.3L. I don’t think that any manufacturers make quality vehicles anymore. Y’all keep’m coming
My 2013 ram 1500 with the 4.7L V-8 has 157000 miles trouble free, I only replace the Battery and sealed the left headlight with silicone
175,xxx on my 2011 with 4.7 no issues at all
227,000 miles on 05 4.7 liter. had it since new. Motor happens to be one of the most reliable parts in the truck for me... manifold tick I been ignoring since 150k miles. Original coils too. Now the trans, rear end, front end and the rest of the truck. Well, that's a different story. lol
You got the second gen 4.7, much improved over first gen. Beefed up the valvetrain and gave it about 60 more horse. What I've observed with most problematic engines is most of the issues come down to lack of maintenance. Use a good oil and filter and change every 3 to 5,000 miles. But some engines are just badly designed
No hot rodding? You couldn't hot rod that dog of an engine if you wanted to.
Not saying that first RAM is good or bad, but generally how a vehicle has been taken care of on the inside reflects how the vehicle was taken care of mechanically. No oil changes, transmission fluid never checked, etc.
I disagree, work trucks often get cosmetically neglected but mechanically maintained because we use them to earn a living not to drive around for show.
I'd trust a work truck over a pavement princess any day
Every time.
The ram is more known more for the notorious Exhaust manifold tick than the lifter ticket and most likely that truck that you just drove was exhaust manifold leak.
exhaust manifold LEAK!!!!!
I concur! That was for sure exhaust manifold leak, not lifter tick.
Came here to say this. Lol
Don't forget the 8spd Transmission issues in those model Silverados and up. There wasn't a recall but everyone I know that had one got rid of them cause they had different issues that caused bad shuttering. They told me I had the wrong fluid in mine for 50,000 miles. Was like running a Posi rear end with no friction modifier. Which in turn had the torque converter messed up.
Had the problem with a 2021 and the 8spd.
Exact reason I got rid of it. Terrible transmission issues.
Yeah I do not know how there was not a safety recall on those. Mine wasn't horrible but noticeable for sure and I know some people's who acted very obnoxious. @@brent7368
I had a 2021 Silverado with the 8 spd - that thing was the worst transmission I have ever had. Would slam you in the back of the seat
@@jordanreyes8880 exactly! I took it to two dealers! Both confirmed the problem but GM denied the repair because it hadn't out right failed yet! Only 11k miles!
@@brent7368 I think they did two software updates to mine and they did nothing. Was so bad on cold starts. I moved over to a Ram and have been pleasantly surprised with how smooth and how much I like it! Will be getting that 3L Duramax next, though!
Thank you please make more of these videos across your channels this is really helpful.
My 1st diesel was the 6.4 Ford and I spent 12,000 in the first 2 months in engine repairs. Then it was sold.
Yikes! That is a lot of $$$ !
Your first issue was buying ford
My stepfather had one. He dumped many thousands of dollars into the engine. After the oil cooler melted, everything got deleted and tuned. Some hack “diesel mechanics” talked him into replacing every module in the truck over the span of 2 years. He replaced the rear differential. I put 2 AC compressor clutches and one AC compressor on it and I spent dozens of hours chasing intermittent CanBus faults that would result in a PATs lock out and/or a no crank condition (because none of those new modules actually solved the problem). I still see that truck in my nightmares. Somehow a “snake” managed to crawl into the cab and scared him out of the truck while driving across a pond dam. Needless to say, that truck now has all of the CanBus faults and whoever made the mistake of buying it at auction got to figure them out.
Everything about working on that truck sucked. Driving the behemoth in the city was nerve-wrecking with aggressive tread tires. You always felt like you didn’t fit in the lane and the damn thing wouldn’t drive straight for shit. I will say that after being tuned, it had some very impressive power, but when you don’t know whether or not it is going to crank in the morning, gobs of power doesn’t mean a whole lot...
A couple of points here:
New guy knows his stuff and sounds like it too. A good compliment to Andre and Tommy.
This is probably one of the most useful videos I’ve seen in awhile if not overall.
Great stuff.
I don't know how you can say that when what he called "a lifter tick" is actually just a leaking exhaust manifold.
New guy does not know his stuff
Glad you like it!
You are kidding , right ? These guys dont know squat !
My 2017 F250 Platinum that I purchased new (currently 85,000 miles) has regularly had various electronic issues since purchase. Its absolutely absurd how expensive trucks are today and how little you can trust them…
Took a Nissan Titan for a spin. Really nice. Don't know if I can buy domestic anymore.
@@michaelwas8549I’ve been looking at the Titan as it’s being discontinued, lightly used ones are being dumped for cheap
I still love my 2006 F-250 w/6.0 PowerStroke. Bought it with 213k already on it, now at 270k. Several Ford mechanics said to stay away from the 6.4
The Ford 6.4 PSD is one of the worst diesels put in a modern pickup truck. The 6.0 is reliable if you keep them stock or build it for power. It cannot handle power with a stock block like the 7.3.
I also have a 2006 F-250 with the 6.0 PowerStroke. I bought it last year with only 74,000 miles on it. Now it has 85,000 miles. It’s completely stock except a straight pipe. I love it so far.
An old job I worked at in 2011 had 11 Fords: 5 6.0s, 3 6.4s, & 2 6.7s. Those 6.4s were crap all around & for dual turbo motor no power & one of them needed turbos at under 20k miles. The 6.7s were great, the 6.0s honestly from my experience weren't that bad. Not the most powerful thing for it's time but still get the job done.
I have a 2014 Silverado LT (155,000 miles) also BLUE and I haven't really had any issues with it (Besides replacing the AC condenser ) and have had it since 22k miles (One owner). I run it on E85 all the time and I've cheeked inside the cylinders with a camera and there is no carbon buildup at all (E85?). As for the transmission I always swap the trans fluid every 50k miles and Tow maybe twice a month. SO far so GOOD ✅🏁
You will soon experience the torque converter failure. I have the same truck and 140,000 miles the torque converter starting making some noise. Unfortunately once you have that, it's too late and the torque converter sends aluminum shavings into the transmission and it wrecks them. It's a big problem and once I looked into it, all of them eventually experience this. Look into it, you might be able to save your transmission if you take action before it happens.
Are you suggesting I should swap out the original torque converter while it is still good for now with a new one?@@boydsnepaguidingservice
@@boydsnepaguidingservice That very thing happened to my 2016 Silverado at 121,000 miles. It has the 6 speed transmission.
I must have been one of the lucky one's. My 14 been worry free besides general Maintenance. I even gave it to my Daughter and she been trouble free as well. Now im worried it my fail on her. But she knows regular maintenance is key.
As a 15 ram single cab, only had the exhaust manifold leak . Dealer fix it for free. After a year or so got ARH headers catless tuned and trans tune as well. No issues . No hemi tick yet but personally I will get a cam and delete mds and a few more goodies once I get 100k miles.
29 year automotive technician here. Also worked 14 years at Chrysler. I have owned 2 dodge ram 1500s . A 2015 and 2018. Neither was in the shop for anything except maintenance. My 2018 did have an intermittent lifter tick in cold weather that was fixed by changing from 5w20 to 5w30 synthetic. The one in the video is obviously an exhaust manifold leak which is common and an easy fix. To be polite , you guys dont seem to be very knowledgeable, and I would advise people dont take your advice. Cheers.
Agreed. They chose 2 of the best engine choices in trucks to nit pick. The 5.7 pushrod hemi and the 5.3 pushrod vortec. The only major flaw with those engines is say to watch out for is the eco shut off mode which most smart people delete. I see those engines with regular oil changes go well past 200k. Yeah you can’t expect everything to work on a 20 year old truck by that time so who cares about the heated seats and other stuff.
I once owned a 2014 Chevrolet Silverado, same engine with 6 speed automatic and four wheel drive. Mine was a LT, black, extended cab with standard 6 1/2 foot bed.
Bought it used in May 2017 for $23,000 with over 32,000 miles. Traded it in for a 2020 Silverado in December 2020 and got $10,000 on the trade in, with over 184,000 miles on the 2014.
After all those miles, it never gave me any problems with regular routine maintenance from my local Chevrolet dealership. Even with the high mileage, I was still getting over 20 mpg and the active fuel management system (V8/V4) didn’t give me any issues.
This truck is definitely a buy, a definite not on the Dodge Ram. Great video, TFL crew.
currently i got a 2014 as a work truck since new, other than a tranny issue at around 115k miles its been reliable. almost 200k mileage on it now.
Same here, had a 2014 Silverado crew cab that I purchased new. Had it for 7 years and not one issue. Replaced the battery and pads at year 4 and that’s it. Highly reliable truck.
Interesting video. Can’t disagree with your conclusions based on my knowledge and exposure. Rule of thumb on AFM, etc., is keep the oil clean per my trusted mechanic. I am a GM (Chevys, Buicks, and Cadillacs) guy. Mostly Chevy. More recently three 5.3 liter and three 6.2 liter motors. Generally bulletproof and long lived. I kept that Mobil One Synthetic clean in all and it paid off with great service. No tranny issues either. My 2001 Suburban was traded by my son-in-law at 315k on the original 4 speed automatic. Thanks for the insights.
I’m on my third used RAM (6 months on third).
2011 RAM - Got it at 40k ram till 250k, no major problems.
2017 RAM - 5.7L Hemisphere, got it at 30k, ran till 270k no major problems
2019 RAM - 5.7L Hemi, got at 40k, at 55k with no problems.
I do not consider seat wear a “problem”.
I just bought a 2014 4x4 Silverado with the 5.3 with 220k miles. It’s a work truck trim and was used as a fleet vehicle with required maintenance completed at every interval at gm dealers and independent shops. No lifter noise and transmission shifts like butter. Hoping it lasts as long as possible before needing major work.
The 6.4 was the last diesel engine produced by navistar for Ford. The 6.7 was ford’s first self designed diesel engine. Ford did not “redesign” the 6.4 Andre.
Ford nailed it with the 6.7. It's a beast
@kylebutler7142 I agree, Ford got the 6.7 right. It says a lot to me that Dodge (Ram) had to go to Cummins & Chevrolet had to go to Isuzu for the Duramax but Ford does their own thing & in my opinion does it better.
I wouldn’t say it’s better but it’s certainly up to par
@@scottyellis3442Ford tech here. Actually GM and Isuzu's Duramax was the first mass produced medium consumer duty diesel with Common rail injection. They paved the way for Cummins and Ford to change to common rail injection.
Which is a huge upgrade when you consider what ford and Cummins were trying to sell at the time
@@scottyellis3442GM owns Isuzu, just like they owned Detroit Diesel. They’re essentially the same entity.
I own a 2011 gmc 1500 Sierra 5.3 extended cab it has 286k and towed 40% of the time . I had changed twi lower ball joints brakes rotors and tires batterys and two serpentine belts and wipers. It still runs great .
Your '11 is a decade into building LS engines. The '14 is the start of the LT engines and new trans controllers. That's the cause of many of the reliability issues.
I used to own a 2019 silverado 5.3 with a 8 speed automatic . Boy let me
Tell you !!! The DFM feeling is like a cold 1950 car . Shaking and vibrating 24/7 . The transmission shifts worst than my 2004 grandma car . It was shifting so hard you will think just got rear ended . Dealer said it was a normal functional new model high standard engineering from GM . Whit 42k miles before all this crazy prices I did trade it for a old trusted Tacoma . ( lesson learned ). No more chevy will be park in my driveway !
Great job guys. Very informative and helpful.
Thank you for watching
My last truck was that King Ranch. Each to their own. I loved the truck. Although I put a lot of money into it, replacing everything. The only part I hated to most was the seats. To me. It was like sitting on plastic chairs. The most uncomfortable vehicle seats I have ever had. Then. Try to clean them. All of the leather in the cab. Never again. The very last thing that I had fixed was the main radiator. A common problem.
I have had my 1998 ram 1500 with a 318cc V8 for 25 years and 150 miles. It has been used as a work truck and vacations in the Georgia mountains. I have kept up with the maint. and repairs. Replaced the transmission at 106 miles with a reman. Also had it repainted 9 years ago. I will keep this truck as long as I can since I don't like all the sensors and new tech on the new ones. The price of the new trucks is absurd.
I like those trucks. Does it still have a dash?
I see lots of trucks filthy like that at the auctions here. I have bought quite a few of them too and they are normally well maintained just dirty. Lot of them come from oil and gas companies. They need those trucks every day and normally have their own mechanic. They keep all the fluids and all changed just they don't keep them that clean. I bought one a few years ago that was a really nice truck. Just it had like 95k miles it was a Silverado like 7 years old I got at the auction for $14k. Crew cab LT with the 5.4, 4x4. Had a brand new set of BFGs on it one of the more aggressive tread patterns. It also had a propane cylinder in the bed so I could run on either gas or natural gas. It was a lot cleaner then this Ram but it wasn't spotless. There was a half dozen or so more that were really dirty. This one had carpet and all though the others all had the rubber mat floors so maybe the one I got was the boss truck.
I agree, the newer the vehicles becomes, the more plastic and sensors they have. My all time favorite is the early ninety's jeep Cherokee. Man those things will just go on for ever if maintained. I remember the trans finally went out at 272k miles and that thing had some hard miles on it, especially as I took it off road and sling lots of mud with it as well as out in the snow. The only thing that I had to replace twice was the water pump and tires. Had it when it had 155k miles and I drove it from MI to OH to NE and back to MI. I hate all the plastic they use now not to mention the rediculous sensors that often need to be replaced which the sensor itself is no big deal, but some cases, it's getting to the damn things that's the real pita.
I had a 150 Power Wagon with a 440. I loved that truck and the fuel mileage wasn't any worse than my Ford station wagon. Unfortunately , both rusted out far sooner than they should have.
I've got a 2002 Chevy Silverado 2500hd 4X4 with 6l and tow haul with 300,000 miles on it as a daily driver and no problems
My neighbor and my friend have the ford with the TT V8 diesel. The most problematic problem on those is the coolant mixing with the oil. They both had the same problem with their trucks. The black stain on under the hood is from the coolant reservoir pouring hot oil out.
I’m surprised the f150 3 valve Triton didn’t make this list.
Maybe all the 3 valve trucks are dead so they couldn’t find one to pick on (feature)
They actually made a video recommending that era f150 😅
@@XDM10 I have one with 234k miles works solid
I had one. It was actually pretty good. 220k miles and I had to have exhaust manifolds replaced but that was it.
@@seattleprowash5464 hit or miss. Mainly miss. Come out to the rust belt, most of those era f150s turned to dust if the drivetrain survived
I'm about 200% sure that tick was the manifold leak. Most hemi ticks go away after at operating temps. Mine goes away in about 20 seconds (for now), usually the tick coming from those trucks is the exhaust manifolds, not the lifters.
I have a 2014 5.7 Ram 2500HD with 149K miles and 66RFE 6 speed. I have a tick, but it doesn't occur on initial cold startup at all, is not discernible under normal driving rpm ranges either, but after driving 30 miles or so when stopped in idle the tick is quite noticeable. This engine is the VVT, NG compatible version not the later MDS version. I have never seen any metal in the oil or filter and is usually still clean to the eye when changed. Always have to use premium Mobile1 or OEM oil filters to maintain oil pressure with this VVT system or my truck will shut down the VVT and throw codes. Usually by 5K the oil viscosity itself tells me it is time to change. I use Rotella Gas Truck Blended 10W30 or 5W20 whichever I can get my hands on.
I have not yet looked at my manifolds bolts but with a rear exiting exhaust design I don't doubt I have broken rear studs given how the heat would naturally fluctuate across the manifold getting hotter and hotter at the rear exit. Just weird that I experience a different tick scenario.
Great video! Keep up the good work!
I have a 16 ram 1500 with 5.7 hemi. truck has 310,000 on it no lifter problems. it does tick on start-up but goes away after truck warms up. This is caused by exhaust manifold studs breaking.
I've had a 2014 Silverado...5.3 V8 and while I had it the truck didn't give me any problems..I took care of it and took care of recalls as they came...
Same here. I am an original owner of my 14 Silverado and I’ve only had to do general maintenance thus far. I run Mobil 1 synthetic, changed my trans fluid to a higher end synthetic, K&N intake, Borla exhaust, tuned with LED upgrades. The underbody coating sucks but I brushed and sprayed it. The rear diff seems to clunk into gear every once in a blue moon when in between awkward shift and speed combinations. I tow 7,000 lbs with it and it is happy above 2k rpm’s. Of course I wish it had more low end torque but it’s paid for!
Pre 2019 5.3s you can take to the bank 💪💪
I am in the market to upgrade my truck and appreciate the info you have provided here. It narrows the trucks and years to search through. For the record I currently have a 2014 F150 STX 6 cylinder 6 speed transmission flex fuel and I love it, no problems with it at all. I am looking for a F250SD 2016-2017 8cyl gas engine to tow my RV. Any suggestions? Thank you
I have a 2016 Ram 1500 and the tick is the exhaust leak on startup. Other than that it's fine. No issues. Had a few recalls done when I got it and it performs great. Gas mileage is good too.
I gotta tell ya, I’ve had several 5.3’s from GMC and couldn’t have been happier. I did however, have the sensor problem on the steering column on my 2011 but, I changed it out myself. Had 175,000 and it was still running great. Good video but give the off shore’s a good look too.
The 5.4L 3v gets a bad rap. Once you update the phasers and oil pump they'll go forever. I just rebuilt a 3v with 275k original miles(timing system was updated at 171k) and it had only minimal wear on the cylinders. All specs were within tolerance for a freshening up.
Yea but the cost of doing that work is almost as much as buying a new engine. Most DIYers dont have the knowledge or ability to do that. At the same time the phaser issues isn’t usually catastrophic and the engine is fine for as long as you can deal with the “tick tick”.
@@Overlandjon A reman is close to the cost of a rebuild, but they are all updated also. Fraser and Powertrain are both using DA phasers and Melling HV340 Melling oil pumps. The tick sound is mostly associated with the passenger side timing chain tensioner seal blowing on the newer style composite tensioner. It all boils down to maintaining the vehicle properly.
@@brianhunt5635 yea I had one and fixed it but I bought it with the timing chain issue not knowing it had an issue until after I bought it. (I learned alot about it which I never knew before). It never had any issues while I owned it (about 4 years) but Took alot of learning to figure it out how to fix all the issues which I doubt most buyers wouldn’t do. The Dealer wanted upwards of $5000 to fix the issue. Your right its a bad rap as the engine still outlasted me but again its a risk and not many people want to put that kind of energy/money into something thats worth less than the repair.
@@Overlandjon For sure. If you can get them cheap enough and have a mechanic you can trust, you can have a pretty nice ride for a decent price though. I'm still surprised at how many are still out there with these issues. Seems like most of them should have been updated by now, but they're still running around knocking and clanging. Ford did more right with the Modular engines than they did wrong, but engines don't often get remembered for what they did right.
I just recently had my 08 5.4 in for the phasers. I was lucky to have had a warranty to fall back on. I was told that it would have easily been a 4K repair and I still paid 1K out of pocket to do the "no brainer" repairs while it was tore apart. Now I have trans issue that when it sets all night ,when you first start it and put in gear it will not move. It's like the pump is weak , but the dealer is stumped... so they say!
I had a 2014 Silverado and in 2020 my mechanic told me to ditch it due to oil pump issues that were beginning to pop up. And the location of the oil pump made it an expensive fix. So I traded it in for a 2021 Silverado and I love it.
My Ram 2500 2015 4X4 no lifter tick, no seat issue and I have 140,000 miles and going. Before you blast a Ram make sure you look at all of them
I've never seen a Ford without a "check engine" light on.
I own 3 none with a check engine light. 🤷♂️ in fact the only one I've ever owned that had a check engine light on was a 2010 Escape with the stupid capless fuel filler neck evap code. Just saying
Mine finally burt out. Lol
I've had 2 Dodge Dakotas. One with a 318, the other with a 3.9 liter. Best trucks I ever had. My son has had 2 Ram 1500s. 1st truck had over 225K miles with no problems. He's driving another one right now. Great truck.
WHAT YEARS ARE THEY BECAUSE NEW VEHICLES I WOULD NOT BUY ANY OF THEM
My ‘03 Dakota had the 3.9L V6 with the 5 spd manual and 2WD, it just wouldn’t die, loved that little truck!
Very informative!
I have a 2018 Chevy Silverado. I didn’t know about most of the issues until like 2 years of ownership. I did my research and found a couple things to add to the negatives. Radiator is prone to leak coolant from the side plastic tanks, lifters dropping or “failure”, A/C condenser is prone to cracking, the biggest issue is the transmission thermostat and it opens at 198 degrees which is too hot for the torque converter. The torque converter starts coming apart and the metal pieces gets thrown into the transmission which equal, done! The good thing is there are fixes and modifications to remedy or prolong life of the components.
My 2016 f150 king ranch has 200k miles on it and the interior is flawless.
The Super-Duty with a V10 is the best option for that truck. Sure, gas mileage is atrocious but the motors are built solid and good power. That truck had the last iteration of the 6.8L Triton V10 so it is the best version with the good benefits of reliability from the 3v 5.4 without the camphaser issue because the V10 isn’t VVT. The rest of the truck is great because that is when Ford really started to make the Super-Duty a nice truck. Love mine.
"good benefits of reliability from the 3v 5.4" errr, the 5.4 triton is easily the worst modern engine ford has ever made... especially the 3 valve lol. Wonder why you never see a 90's ford anywhere, but you see 90's dodges and chevies literally everywhere? And ford outsold dodge like 10 to 1 back then lol.
@@thehavok4258 Good benefits being the fixed head so spark plugs didn’t break as easy. Also, the 3v didn’t debut until 2004.
@@willcultra3268 Was saying 5.4 in general. You wanna talk about a good Ford engine talk about the 300.
@@thehavok4258 I would agree on that for reliability but they are gutless. I guess if you wanted a good for engine with both, a Coyote is the best option.
@@thehavok4258owned 2 5.4s and neither had any major issues. A 2004 that made it to 170k miles until I sold it for a newer 2010 also with a 5.4 and also no major issues with 120k miles.
I have had 2RAM trucks in recent years. The first, a 2013 single cab with 8 foot bed and 3.6L V-6 4WD. It climbed s great without a load, but when i put a pop- up camper on it, it slowed dowe and mpg went to 15 from 25mpg. I bought it with 50K and when it was destroyed it had 105K. It only had one recall and ran great. It was totaled by a live- bottom gravel truck enjoyed parked.
I then boight a 2009 RAM Laramie that is loaded. 5.7L Hemi, Brown leather interior, 4door and 6.5 f 22:12 t bed. In town it gets 16. On the road 21. 4WD could climb straight up if it got traction. It had 134K when i bought it. S 185K now and is getting a new AC. $5000 for parts and labor. The dash has to be removed. That has been the only really expensive issue. Other things are normal wear and tear to me. 1 minor recall. No oil Comstock. No exhaust leaks. Probably because the previous owner put new manifolds and exhaust system on. I am going to have to replace front hubs rotors and brakes.
The silver Ram truck they began with had an exhaust leak not a lifter tick. The bolts break on exhaust manifold. I had to have both exhaust manifold fixed on mine luckily I had the warranty to get it fixed.
That sounds more like the exhaust manifold leak. ( hemi tick ) Manifold bolts break and separate from the gasket causing an exhaust leak right from the block.
No its a lifter tick.
Ram’s Hemi tick is a bit overblown. There was a bad run of lifters but in 2017 they changed suppliers and beefed up the roller bearings. Typically the worn down lifters and lobe happens on the non-MDS cylinders. Plus it’s most common on vehicles that idle for long periods of time when oil pressure is lowest and operating temps are highest. Also it’s best to do full synthetic oil changes 5-7,000 miles not 10k. It can run on 87 but best to use 89 octane to prevent engine knock.
Have a 2014 Ram Hemi with 120k miles no tick
I had a 2018 hemi with this problem. Had to take it back to the dealership for repairs. Was like pulling teeth to get them to fix it.
displacement on demand is a bit overblown- it's bullshit tech complexity and weak lifters for a 1-2 mpg gain highway that no one gives a rats ass about but marketing
Happens way too often and it's a huge repair. Many GM or FCA V8s with DOD/AFM/DFM system will have issues at some point in its operating life. It's a crap design and will absolutely negate any fuel savings.
@@TPowell12 It does not happen that often. Issues can be due to bad maintenance/abuse on either the Ram or the Silverado.
Thanks for the Info!
I have a 2016 Ram Big Horn and it's been great. I always turn the MDS off manually and get oil changes at 3000 instead of 7500 or 10000. The interior is still in good shape because I don't thrash on it. A lot of stuff comes down to owner behavior.
In the ram it sounds more like broken manifold bolts than lifter tick.
Your obviously deaf
I personally owned both a 2016 ram with the 3.0 ecodiesel and a 2008 6.4 powerstroke. I loved both trucks and never had one single issue. The eco diesel I bought brand new and left stock. The 6.4 I took all the emissions off and it was an entire different truck. Although how you treat them will depend on how reliable they are. Just sayin.
The 6.4's main downfall was all the emissions.
Agree on the 6.4. The DPF and the EGR destroyed the engines. Without them the 6.4 works just fine.
Also anyone that did tunes to up the HP destroyed their 6.4.
Thanks for the great content! I’d love to know where the CO dealer auction is and if it’s open to the public?
It is not open to the public. Unfortunetely.
I've got a 2011 4.7 v8, it is a work truck (home remodel), and I bought it new from the dealership. It tows my work trailer, my car hauler , and it currently has 160k+ miles. The only problem i had was that the water pump went out on me around 100k miles. I've only had to do regular maintenance.
The Diesel issue from 2005 through 2015 is the government mandated emissions controls with little to no lead time to develop the systems and the consumer became the test subject. The diesels of the last 5 or so years are far and away better because they've figured out the systems that typically take 5 to 7 years to develop a reliable solution. But the gov gave less than 2 year notice, and then again with less than 2 year notice. And it was across the board for on road diesels.
Now the fuel system on all of the trucks are a problem.
1st-I like those Ram trucks when compared to other manufacturers. I do hate that every time I drive one and adjust the radio the transmission neutrals out and lights start flashing until cycling the ign. 🤣🤣
2nd-People that buy King Ranches don't care about the engine, they are buying the seats.
3rd-I gave up on GM trucks after the 07 Classic.
I gave up on GM back in the 90s due to horrible paint quality and them not standing behind their products. So that's about 30 years of me giving the finger 🤔
In 2017, after watching your comparison reviews, we bought a 2015 Ford F150 with the 5 liter V8 and just 11,000 miles on it. Found it at CarMax. Because we were buying it primarily to tow our 25 ft. Airstream travel trailer, what impressed us was the engine braking on downhills. It now has 145,000 miles and, aside from replacing a water pump, we've done nothing but oil changes and the usual check ups. We love this truck and hope to get another 100,000 miles out of it.
One other Hemi issue is that they like to break off exhaust manifold studs. It produces a kinda soft clicking that often goes away when the engine warms up. Mine broke off two. I could never countenance the idea of paying maybe $30K for a 7 year old beat down pickup with 110K miles on it.
Love that my 2010 Nissan titan is at 170k miles with all factory parts with the exception of serpentine belt and spark plugs. Wouldn’t hesitate to drive it cross country either
glad the Titan no longer exist
Titans was the best kept secret in the truck world for at least 12 years. 04-15 the first gens. I should have sold my 2014 pro 4x.
My 2017 Ram 1500 Hemi runs smooth with no tick, however I use only 5W30 Syn with a quality filter. Mine only had 2 recalls, the tailgate and cruise control. I never had any failures but took it in for those two recalls anyway since it’s free. I guess maybe I’ve been lucky but my truck has never been to the dealership or mechanic for any issue, it’s been one of the best trucks I’ve ever owned.
synthetic oil waste of money conventional oil is fine.
Just admit your a ram guy that makes excuses and cover ups for Dodge and Ram.
I don't consider myself a "Ram guy" but I bought a new 2016 ram 1500 5.7l , now has 137k trouble free miles except the exhaust manifold leak and two simple recalls.
( most reliable truck I've owned ) @@erickanuho4996
Hey at least I never had to disconnect my battery to reset the screen in my new Colorado, err sorry my Ram.
@@kc0lif Same as running premium fuel is a waste, however i have had some issues running E85.
I have a Sierra 2014 with 5.3 and no problems yet! It's been an excellent truck!
Love this concept. Great video.
I had good luck with my 2014 Silverado 5.3L. I just traded it in a couple of months ago and I had no issues with the engine or transmission. The only major issue I had was with the AC condenser in which it cracked at the fitting. I never disabled the AFM and it worked perfectly. I did install a catch can to keep the intake cleaner as long as possible.
how many miles?
@@mujjuman It had just over 93000 miles.
@@kellyherald1390 wow nice
Just sold my 2014 Chevy Silverado today it had 336,800 miles on it
My 2014 Silverado had both the rear diff and transfer case problem. Costed me over $2,300 at 98k miles.
I agree on all 3 plus 5.4lt 3 valve they come with their problems. In King ranch behind front seats are saddle bags, I remember when this came out as I use to read Truck Trend. Old F250, F350 that build in Brazil for Australian market had not best build quality but you still see 7.3lt V8 diesel around today, high mileage but above average price as new are over $100,000. I hope all these RAM buyers don’t have these old RAM 16 problems in future especially running of 5.7lt V8.
I miss my 07 king ranch. New king ranch’s don’t have the same feel for some reason
I have a 2014 GMC Sierra 1500 bought it 4 years ago now has 91,000 miles on it I must tell you I had absolutely no problems, maybe I got lucky, but it has been a great truck for me. I did install a oil catch can and change oil sooner than 3000 miles and also changed trans and dif oil already, will drive it anywhere no worries, I think preventative maintenance is key for any vehicle.
Im looking at a 1997 F250 HD XLT 4x4 automatic with some minor bed rust, 137k one owner. Never smoked in and garage kept. $3,800 I'm taking the cash with me and I hope to pick it up tonight
I'll stick with my Tundra. 170k and all Ive done is replace a lower leaf spring and 1 wheel bearing.
My ‘17 big horn Ram 5.7 was solid . I’d get another one easily
Fiat big horn wanna copy ford king ranch pick up trucks
That's what I'm driving now. Glad to hear it served you well. It only has 60k miles on it, but I hope to have it for years to come.
@@jasonagenda3638 it’s a great truck . Very reliable . Best transmission in a 1/2ton truck
@@jasonagenda3638 I put 131k on mine . It didn’t miss a beat
@@victorvillafranco8772 _It's called a long horn buddy... The big horn you're talking about is one step from a tradesman It's almost the bare bones minimum trim._
Excellent information
I owned a 2014 Silverado... can confirm, all within a year I had to have the transmission rebuilt, the radiator replaced and then the infamous lifter tick began. I got out of it as soon as I could and went back to ram. I know they all have their issues, but I never looked back.
@00:48 That's as far as most people get when they decide to buy
would also like to see one showing some of the best trucks to buy over 100k miles
Bought a new 2016 1500 5.7 8sp Hemi with no problems at all ,traded it off for a 2500 in 2022. My 16 was a awesome truck.
Great video. We have had ton of theses trucks in our fleet. Ram's is very bad for front diff's going out, F-250 6.4L is POS and Chev 2014 up loses transmission's.
Top 3 used trucks you should never buy: Ford, Ram and Chevy.
I'm not a Ford guy, but I love that dash and gauge set up. One of the best
If that's all ford offers I'd rather save my money lol
I agree, it's so good looking
The GM Chevy truck does have some transmission issues. My friend currently owns two trucks, a 1998 Dodge Ram Cummins and a 2014 Chevrolet Silverado 1500. Back in 2021, he had to replace the transmission about 2-3 times due it going bad after towing his speedboat down the high out of state from New Jersey.
Just bought my first new(to me) truck- a 2022 Ram 1500 Classic. My biggest worries were the Hemi tick, so I kept my mileage range low, but also since it was my first new buy I didn’t want a massive car payment, so my criteria was under $37k and 36k miles. Long story short, 11,590 miles crew cab 4wd with 3.92 limited slip (only two option I wanted) with the upgraded cluster and radio in a Tradesman. Only one I could find and all set and done it was just over $40k
The HEMI lifter tick is really something that correlates with idle time, not driving time. The HEMI lifter issues also have no correlation with MDS and is really an oiling issue. The camshaft and lifters do not get enough oil at idle, so the main prevention is to avoid excessive idling and avoid excessive cycling. That being said, my 2015 5.7 has 206k miles and I let that truck idle if I need to. The actual fix is to get the high volume hellcat oil pump, though if you change your oil every 5k miles with 5w30 and avoid excessive idling or cycling, you will be fine and won't have to deal with lifter issues.
Hopefully you can sell it soon and make a profit before it has major issues.
Heard lots of bad things in the 14 Silverado. I had one new off the lot. 240,000 miles other than multiple ac issues that were fixed after replacing with after market parts, I had zero issues maybe I just got lucky🤷♂️
I'm going to say you take care of your stuff, new off the lot means you know what maintenance was done and no one abused it like you did, I worked at a dealership and boy about 70% of the silverados 14-18 that would come in would get sent to auction.
I have a '15 Silverado HD with 134000 miles and only problem I have had is mice filled the ventilation ducts with dog food and burned out the blower motor.
This is why i recommend the 08+ tundra to anyone looking for a half ton. Cant be beat
Those years do have some issues. 2013 and up is better though.
I can’t speak for the 2014 but I have a 2015 Silverado 5.3 and have kept up with Service to the T and never had an issue with it. I have a custom tune, intake and exhaust, and oil catch can.
My 14' 5.7 has had the exhaust tick and the lifter tick, kinda sounds like exhaust on that one.
The lifter tick fix is a bit expensive, but mine is good to go for a long time now.
Issue causing the lifter tick is a few things, the cylinder deactivation is one, you can eliminate that by tapping the manual gear selection and setting at 8th gear once you are in drive and it will not engage cylinder deactivation.
The other is going past 5k miles on oil changes, these engines are sensitive to oil degradation.
Take care to do those 2 things and you'll be good.
Most of the lifters that fail are non mds lifters it’s just bad part quality control.
The DEF and DPF are major issue with diesel trucks.
Requires alot of maintenance that most ppl don't stay on top till its too late
Which extra maintenance is with the diesel ?
@@watchmanexpert There is no extra maintenance. If your DEF is not deleted yet, you just have to add it in once in like 6-8K miles. If you change engine oil yourself it cost just like $60. Intervals are actually longer then gas engines.
@@marcelo403polo2That’s the problem. HO Diesel option on the new super duty is $12,500 plus tax and interest, then you have to spend $5000 more to delete it and void your factory warranty. I just got a new 7.3 Godzilla because I didn’t want to deal with the cost, weight, and complexity of a diesel. Just looking under the hood of a modern diesel will give you a headache.
@@cliffordmontana4562 Yes. But those newer gas motors are also very problematic and gas thirsty. So IMO still is better to have diesel. Im very happy so far with my LML
@@marcelo403polo2If you’re referencing the camshaft delamination, it affects 1-2% of engines from 2020 and 2021. It’s a simple, old school engine with few parts and no turbos. There hasn’t been an engine this simple in a heavy duty truck in decades. I have a crew cab long bed f250 4x4 with 4.30 gears, 35x12.50 mud tires and a 48 gallon gas tank. I average 14mpg. Towing my enclosed trailer with toys in it I get 10mpg. That’s pretty good for a 7,500 pound truck. Good luck with your lml. I just personally have no need for a diesel and don’t want to deal with all the emissions stuff.
I'm glad I couldn't afford the '14 Silverado and ended up with the '12. The transmission kick at low speed or stopping is a bit much, but 9 years of ownership I have gotten use to it and use M mode when needed.
Thanks for the Video my 09 Silverado that I bought new in 09 has 196K on her and still running good with the 5.3 but at some point I might have to replace her thanks .
I have a 2014 chevy with the 6.2 liter and at 200K miles I had to rebuild the engine because of the AFM or DOD. I was going to buy a new truck but the prices are crazy so I may just keep mine running for now. I did a delete on the AFM