Sony vs. Canon: The Real Reason I Made the Switch

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @KcKPhotography
    @KcKPhotography 5 месяцев назад +6

    3:02 There is no Micro HDMI in the Canon R5 Mark II, it’s a full one this time.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the correction! Totally got that mixed up 🙏🏻

  • @kenneth6102
    @kenneth6102 3 месяца назад +3

    I don't get your points at all. What is the problem with paying more for more functions and features? There is a problem with Sony not gate-keeping and therefore it's good that Canon is? Most people don't stick to a brand, they stick to a mount since all the lenses they buy are of the same mount, and it's expensive to switch mount.
    Anyways, you switched from Sony because you don't see a clear gear upgrade path, and you switched to Canon because you see how they are gatekeeping and there will be lots of feature upgrades which Sony already has that will come to Canon in the future? I think I have misunderstood since it doesn't make sense.
    I am on the RF-mount for stills and starting to learn filming videos. The R8 is the cheapest full-frame with the best autofocus for the money. Canon also has a more extensive and cheaper budget primes line-up than other mounts. These are the two reasons I'm on the RF mount. If you can't sum it up in a sentence or two, it makes less sense in a 10 minute explanation.

  • @gavinBsussex
    @gavinBsussex День назад

    For me the ergonomics and menus and out of camera images are what keeps me with Canon. Yes RF lenses are expensive, but now i have what i want i can use them for decades and just upgrade my camera as i need to.

  • @krishnayalla676
    @krishnayalla676 5 месяцев назад +5

    Dual C70 owner here. I was losing my love of Canon after the c200. Gate keeping certain features on even a 7k cinema camera was getting too out of hand for me. However the c70 really changed my decision and i am least in a holding pattern for now. The camera has been improved dramatically in last couple of years due to firmware updates, especially the RAW update. I think the biggest thing is canon is trying to really take things more seriously now and the c70/ c400 is now proof of that. Canon is also trying to do some novel things such as DGO.
    The r5mk2 is actually pretty exciting. 8k 60p in a small body with incredible AF. Idk why people are upset, it's a great camera.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your perspective love to hear that you are still rocking with your C70. I‘m very excited for the C70 Mark II. I think this really could be a game changer🔥

    • @ScottGoedkoop-g1o
      @ScottGoedkoop-g1o 4 месяца назад

      videographers are upset because the 4k isn't oversampled beyond 30fps. Because the raw is noisy as hell. I'm not talking grain. I mean digital noise. The codec is a true computer killer. My 14900k with a 4090 struggle hard on the raw files of the r5m2.

  • @walmartpimp2
    @walmartpimp2 5 месяцев назад +4

    For photography I want to switch from Sony to Leica, but I can’t afford the Leica SL3 coupled with the Leica Noctilux 75mm f1.25 prime lens. But for videography I will continue to stick with Sony. Should the Sony A1 mark II or A7S IV not support 8K60FPS, then I may have to defect to the Canon R5 C mark II whenever that comes out.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Don’t forget that the Canon R5 Mark II is not shooting regular 8K but 8K RAW so it’s a lot more data intensive but you also will have a lot more color depth. But I honestly think Sony will focus more on the global shutter technology than Resolution as it will be hard the get that high of a resolution on a 12mp sensor🤙

  • @TJIzzy
    @TJIzzy 5 месяцев назад +4

    RED will be moving away from the RF mount since Nikon bought them

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Well… definitely most likely to happen but I still hope we will get different mounting options🤞

  • @PeacefulMoments1844
    @PeacefulMoments1844 5 месяцев назад +2

    Did you keep the Red?

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely. The RED will be my A-Cam for years to come. The C70 is the perfect B-Cam for my workflow!

  • @ryanwalsh_golf
    @ryanwalsh_golf 5 месяцев назад +1

    1 thing I didn’t agree with is saying the burano and fx3 had no difference in image quality so it wasn’t worth more….you’re not paying for a better image at that point, you’re paying for better features and flexibility..

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +3

      100% agree with you but my problem is that considering the price point it’s hard to believe that the FX6 Mark II will be nearly as good of a camera as the Burano!

  • @baekmedier
    @baekmedier 4 месяца назад +1

    The DGO sensor from C70 and and c300 mark 3 is so nice. But I had to get two of them because my R5C looked to sharp next to the C70 ...

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад

      The DGO Sensor is just amazing I hope Canon will keep devolving a newer version for the mark II🙏🏻

    • @baekmedier
      @baekmedier 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jannis.rothermel I was almost sure they would have made a full frame version in the new C400... but no.. No DGO sensor... Instead they try to mimic sony with low light wins.. instead of looking towards ARRI with the DGO tech.. but yeah..
      It would be great to see someone test the R1 as B cam with the C400 as a A cam both in XF-avc, c-log 2 cinemagammut all - intra 10-bit-4:2:2.. its a 24 MP and a 26 MP sensor.. the sharpness and the colors should match perfect.

  • @scottievee330
    @scottievee330 4 месяца назад +1

    I shoot Canon. I too wanted Clog2 on all the cameras. BUT I see many Sony shooters try to match the same codecs from different cameras and had the same issues truly matching the looks. That was probably the only reason I was thinking of trying Sony. Turns out it's not a thing. I have a C400 coming. It will work great with my C70's. Done for a while!

  • @dsfarag
    @dsfarag 5 месяцев назад +1

    Have you looked that the Nikon Z8 or Z6iii? Pretty impressive.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah like I‘ve mentioned in the end Nikon is really pushing it right now🔥

  • @josiahlee805
    @josiahlee805 4 месяца назад +1

    Sony definitley takes the cake for feature-rich cameras and consistent releases. I agree that the brands are almost opposite though, since Sony is infamously bad at firmware updates whereas Canon does a pretty good job (though their release schedule is dubious at best). As an R5C user, I can definitely see where you are coming from looking for more professional features all in a single body. Thankfully we live in an age where any modern camera body on the market can produce high-quality content, and it's great to see you break down the pros and cons of both brands while also addressing the issues of brand loyalty. Hope your experience with the R5C and C70 is as good as mine has been!

  • @johnny.b.goode1
    @johnny.b.goode1 5 месяцев назад +10

    I switched from my Canon 5Dm (3&4) to Sony's A7r line - back when if you wanted more hybrid (photo/video) platform Sony had clear advantages. Even though I think Sony is still slightly better at hybrid work, I can't honestly say there is a motive to go through the effort to "switch" from one brand to another. They all seem so similar now.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Couldn’t agree more if you are invested into one ecosystem it’s mostly best to stay! Like you said all camera are pretty much great nowadays🔥

  • @this_time_imperfect
    @this_time_imperfect 5 месяцев назад +6

    Sony has always flooded the market with too many cameras. Look up the list of DCR and TRV cameras from the 1990’s and 2000’s, there are literally hundreds of them and they are all basically the same camera just with slightly different features.

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 5 месяцев назад +5

      Sony is a fomo company they release many products but with identical features so that ppl thought they are cool hahaha...unlike canon they give a very mature feature that really works

    • @johnny.b.goode1
      @johnny.b.goode1 5 месяцев назад +1

      I see where that can be annoying - but honestly, where camera tech is now (unlike 10 years ago) the features aren't critical. I follow some youtubers who switched from their "basic" A7iii to the FX3 and I really don't notice any difference in their work product. It might offer some really basic user/side improvements, but in today's world if you are shooting with semi-modern Sony/Canon/Nikon/Panasonic/Fuji/Blackmajic etc etc your camera gear is not holding you back from producing great results.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Definitely feels like that but Canon also loves to withhold certain features that we know they easily could give us through a firmware etc.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Never knew about that! Very interesting.

    • @this_time_imperfect
      @this_time_imperfect 5 месяцев назад

      @@jannis.rothermel I know right? What features are you waiting for?

  • @mehmetalikaplan7386
    @mehmetalikaplan7386 4 месяца назад +2

    A7s3 was amazing but killed by fx3. even a7iv has better features for daily users and videographers.

  • @bamhamer
    @bamhamer Месяц назад

    I'm switching from canon to sony simply because of e-mount.
    The amount of crazy good value lenses is unmatched.
    Canon is zero consumer oriented.
    That said: i think canon camera bodies are pretty much perfect. And they have all the features i need.
    Right now sony offers not a single camera that is a suitable replacement for my r6 mk2.
    I hope the a7v will be fitting

    • @francis2339
      @francis2339 Месяц назад

      whatt.... the a7iv is far more superior then the r6 mark 2. what do you mean?

    • @bamhamer
      @bamhamer Месяц назад

      @@francis2339 lol. in which area is the a7iv superior to the r6 mk2 please? Except for megapixels?

    • @francis2339
      @francis2339 Месяц назад

      @@bamhamer are you for real? 1. Dynamic range is superior on the A7 IV, retaining more detail in highlights and shadows compared to the Canon. 2.Battery life 3.More accurate autofocus 4.Lens ecosystem 5.A7 IV oversamples from 7K = more detailed image. Do i have to keep going...?

    • @francis2339
      @francis2339 Месяц назад

      the a7 iv smoked it if you do any video or portaits/ landscape. Only at sports, or fast moving video the conon wins due to read out speed

  • @iveseenmedia
    @iveseenmedia 4 месяца назад +1

    Interesting thought! I never really knew how to articulate my thoughts on this topic but I agree 100000% I switched from Sony to Canon recently and don't regret it. But also want to emphasize the "Cameras are tools", I didn't switch because I hated Sony, I just loved Canon a lot more and still do. All camera companies are killing it though, so the choice is always tough

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад

      Happy to hear you are loving your new setup and yes I totally agree with you🔥

  • @dominiqueschenck430
    @dominiqueschenck430 5 месяцев назад +2

    Many thanks for your honesty. And good luck with the newly acquired equipment!

  • @Abeisgreat1
    @Abeisgreat1 5 месяцев назад +1

    E mount is very open and has way more lense options. Rf wsy to expensive.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Yeah there are for sure more options with the E Mount and it’s a lot cheaper as well, but in terms of quality you can’t really beat RF glass🤙

  • @prokremelskidezolati1426
    @prokremelskidezolati1426 5 месяцев назад +19

    So, you gonna switch because of the"disappointment"? Wooow 🤣🤣🤣

    • @mbismbismb
      @mbismbismb 5 месяцев назад +8

      the r5ii is a dissapointment? hahahahaha joke of the year

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Don‘t get me wrong it’s a fantastic camera but considering it took them almost 5 years it’s not that much better than the R5C I was really hoping for something big especially considering they waited so long and everyone was leaving Canon for Sony! But it is a fantastic and exciting camera I agree🤞

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Hahaha😂

    • @prokremelskidezolati1426
      @prokremelskidezolati1426 5 месяцев назад

      @@mbismbismb my words

    • @prokremelskidezolati1426
      @prokremelskidezolati1426 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@jannis.rothermel if the video is the thing, than a lot of people is interested in Nikon. Canon is the AF king.

  • @StarLightDotPhotos
    @StarLightDotPhotos 4 месяца назад +2

    The problem is Canon rests on it's laurels and is behind on the technology. People like me who have too much money invested in the system have no choice but to stay.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I feel you! In the end all these companies are in the race to make money. The ones that have the lowest market share for example Nikon have to innovate a lot more and push the boundaries to gain back customers!

  • @Dygo784
    @Dygo784 5 месяцев назад +2

    You can give me the Sony a7s3?

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha😅it’s already gone🪦

    • @Dygo784
      @Dygo784 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jannis.rothermel brother if you have any other camera to get rid off
      I will take it off your hands

  • @mikede2464
    @mikede2464 4 месяца назад +1

    I imagine you will be forgiven by Sony shooters for leaving because you said multiple times "Don't get me wrong, Sony is the better camera." As other commenters on this video have suggested, I also believe you don't need to justify yourself or be apologetic to a group of consumers in your decisions. Regardless, thanks for sharing your reasons!

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад

      Thanks a lot! Happy to hear you liked the video🙏🏻

  • @aron2922
    @aron2922 5 месяцев назад +5

    In what way is the R5 MK II a dissapointment? Lmao

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      Don't get me wrong, it's a great camera and I'm sure it will be a game-changer for many people. However, after waiting five years, I feel they haven't made significant improvements compared to the Canon R5C. They have enhanced the camera in terms of autofocus, 8K at 60FPS, and faster readout speed (which reduces rolling shutter), but is that really enough considering it's much more expensive than the R5C at the moment?

    • @kai__larsen
      @kai__larsen 5 месяцев назад

      @@jannis.rothermel Don't forget full size hdmi, 4 audio channels, audio in 120/240fps. And C-log2. Some good upgrades considering what Canon usually does. But I do see your point after waiting 5 years, I want a little more also.

    • @gavthane
      @gavthane 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jannis.rothermelI don’t get it when some people say it is a disappointment… like, it’s a pretty big upgrade over the R5 in terms of video, and still got a load of amazing features the R5C doesn’t have… Clog2 and amazing autofocus to name a few.

    • @ancogbernard
      @ancogbernard 4 месяца назад

      Its disappointing because they surpass sony in camera sales. 🤣🤣🤣 And sony fanboi cannot accept that. 😅😅😅

  • @LansinngKahmei
    @LansinngKahmei 5 месяцев назад +2

    But I will will stay with canon. RF lenses truly satisfied me

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Definitely some of the best modern stills lenses on the market🔥

  • @triedge6200
    @triedge6200 3 месяца назад +1

    well they just released the c80 hehe sooo if ur in the return window def do the swap.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  3 месяца назад

      I don’t know the C70 is more than enough and even though only being super35mm it has a much better dynamic range✌️

    • @triedge6200
      @triedge6200 3 месяца назад

      @@jannis.rothermel do it for content 🫡🫡🫡🫡

  • @Guillaume9
    @Guillaume9 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ouh man first mistake, there is professionnal audio in the A7S3 the xlr-k3m came a bit after the a7RIV so compatible with the a7s3 and the fx3 / fx30 accessory is just the same with a handle so big lack of knowledge on your part, cultuvate yourself and then switch.
    What's the problem of new cameras ressembling ancient ones... that's a sony thing? Canon R8 is a cheaper canon.
    If you are happy with canon good but don't justify your problems with others, yes the fx3 is that good like the a7s3, it is not because a log is very good on every camera that it is a bad thing, it is greater for workflow, and canon that you seem to take as better potential isn't ( I use canon by the way) sony having come so good at non raw recording that they killed panasonic cameras and made every c camera before the C70 toys, that's not me thay's history.
    So you wanted toswitch thats all, don't put yout ego in the mix please, shure you'll get great images with the c70 still

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад

      Hey man really appreciate you taking your time to write the comment unfortunately I‘m struggling to fully understand what you are trying to say but what I’m understand is that the Sony A7Siii has professional audio thanks to the xlr-k3m adapter because I did use it myself! It just has 2 major flaws which make it very unattractive as a viable option. Number 1 other than on the FX3 the adapter is only mounted to the Hot Shoe and not with 2 additional pins which makes it very hard to rig anything else. Number 2 it’s much shorter than the FX3 top handle, in fact it really isn’t a top handle at all.
      But I agree with you a camera is just a tool and everyone has to know for themselves which camera is the right one for them. Giving my opinion or view on the current camera industry has nothing to do with ego it’s about stirring a conversation that might help at least one person to find the right camera doesn’t mean it needs to be Canon or Sony🙏🏻

    • @Guillaume9
      @Guillaume9 4 месяца назад

      @@jannis.rothermel got a rig which use the câble with the k3m to put it not in the way.
      Non matter what what you Say about no xlr solution is wrong it exist contradictly to what you Say, it is unfortunate that it doesn't work for you but still what you Say is wrong. And Come on as good as the c70 IS it is no replacement for an a7s3. So that just your style that needed canon cameras, would be much honest to Say that you prefer canon not that it is better, which IS wrong.
      You talk about ego, but that video is just that, would be very good without you justifying a thing you shouldn't.
      Your story IS much interesting than "oh think Sony is not evolving anymore" when they almost pushing canon to the edge, today Sony is for canon what canon was for Nikon on the dslr Era, dont Say canon IS bad I preordered the r5ii but here now IS Sony that dictate the futur, canon and Nikon New features are made to mimic/beat sony

  • @hmfilms3506
    @hmfilms3506 5 месяцев назад +1

    Gear metter and it's not just a tool.
    And everything is priced for a reason.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      I agree it does especially at a certain point in your career but unfortunately not everything is price according for it’s performance✌️

  • @BrianHallmond
    @BrianHallmond 4 месяца назад +2

    I prefer Canon
    But
    I
    Do
    Not
    Respect
    Them.

  • @christophercarlimages9003
    @christophercarlimages9003 4 месяца назад +1

    Consider yourself in the minority. Most people are dumping Canon for a myriad of reasons.

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад

      100% that’s one reason I wanted to make this video. Giving people both sides to the story✌️

  • @italianboyseychelles
    @italianboyseychelles 5 месяцев назад +3

    Team Canon💥

  • @KofiYeboah
    @KofiYeboah 5 месяцев назад +3

    Finding the tools that work for you is daunting , but seems like you’re well on your way! 🫡 good luck on this platform man 💯 subbed

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      100% agree! Thanks a lot my guy! Means a lot coming from you🙏🏻

  • @Leo-jd2ny
    @Leo-jd2ny 5 месяцев назад +5

    Why this Video? Nobody has to justify themselves. Or are you sponsored by Canon? All the switching videos are unnecessary for me! I know what I need!

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +3

      That's great! No one should feel pressured to switch systems, as all cameras available today are excellent, as I mentioned earlier. I wanted to share my experience with both systems because there seems to be a growing trend of people leaning towards switching to Sony, which is becoming the new "cool" thing. In my opinion, it doesn't hurt to provide a different perspective and help people figure out what might be the right choice for them.

    • @Casey-lq1vu
      @Casey-lq1vu 5 месяцев назад +1

      then just stay in your mom womb forever and surrounded by your own opinion too

    • @kenikwok973
      @kenikwok973 5 месяцев назад

      @@Casey-lq1vu 你可以不同意別人的觀點,但無需要侮辱別人。留意清楚別人講嘅說話,唔好出嚟柒

    • @Casey-lq1vu
      @Casey-lq1vu 5 месяцев назад

      @@kenikwok973 丟雷老母, he simply suspects if the creator got sponsored by canon also. 港崽

    • @Casey-lq1vu
      @Casey-lq1vu 5 месяцев назад

      @@kenikwok973 dllm

  • @truthseeker6804
    @truthseeker6804 5 месяцев назад +1

    Canon c400 would be good for you

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад

      Honestly it’s a great camera but considering that the dynamic range is worse than on the C70 it wouldn’t really feel like an upgrade!

  • @yannissotiriadis1267
    @yannissotiriadis1267 5 месяцев назад +4

    Canon is great as long you can live with Canons cripplehammer. R5ii is crippled, R5C is crippled, R6 is crippled. They wanna keep their C line intact so they just cut features behind firmwares.

    • @prokremelskidezolati1426
      @prokremelskidezolati1426 5 месяцев назад +4

      the R5 II as well? oh, why?

    • @kai__larsen
      @kai__larsen 5 месяцев назад +4

      What realistic features were you looking for in the R5ii? It's gotten the "Cripple Hammer" the least

    • @yannissotiriadis1267
      @yannissotiriadis1267 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@kai__larsen No oversampling 4k60 is the main reason

    • @JackFN_VR64
      @JackFN_VR64 5 месяцев назад +3

      basically everyone (sony, canon, samsung, lg, apple etc etc) cripple their product lines with the intent to expand their line up to force consumers to have to buy more products with the specific capabilities they need or forcing them to upgrade to more expensive models.
      for some reason canon gets all the attention for this when sony is just bad or even worse: entire a7 line up strategically crippled to force you to buy an a7siii for video and a 2nd camera a7iv or a7rv for photo, or the super expensive a1 if you just want one camera that can do it all.

    • @yannissotiriadis1267
      @yannissotiriadis1267 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@JackFN_VR64 A1 is pixel binning at 4k60

  • @mostfrequencies4981
    @mostfrequencies4981 4 месяца назад

    So what, buddy? It's a consumer product, buy both?? Why does this RUclips algorithm take me to so many dumb channels?

    • @mostfrequencies4981
      @mostfrequencies4981 4 месяца назад

      You're just bragging. I bought a Red Komoto (thanks Dad xxx)

  • @Mr.Deeds.
    @Mr.Deeds. 4 месяца назад +1

    The problem is this crazy misture of photo and video dudes....I don't care about video!!

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  4 месяца назад +1

      I guess there is no one size fits all solution✌️

    • @Mr.Deeds.
      @Mr.Deeds. 4 месяца назад

      ​@@jannis.rothermeltrue

  • @kenduejones
    @kenduejones 5 месяцев назад +2

    Canon Gang 📸🎥

  • @bdvisuals_
    @bdvisuals_ 5 месяцев назад +2

    You already invested in Sony. Just stay with sony 😅

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +1

      I get your point but like I said considering I’m invested in the RED Komodo long term. Financially it made more sense to go the RF route and not having to invest in two different lens systems✌️

  • @iyason6878
    @iyason6878 5 месяцев назад +2

    4.05 is too gay

    • @jannis.rothermel
      @jannis.rothermel  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks for spreading positivity on the internet and appreciating the art of modeling for what it is🙏🏻 every heard of a creative concept? ;)

  • @HGQjazz
    @HGQjazz 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sony takes advantage of people with impulse control issues.
    They're the only camera manufacturer that can sell one person an A7Siii, FX3, FX6, and ZVE1, even though everyone knows they're all the same camera.
    Sony loyalists are in a cult.

  • @juminahserimen7190
    @juminahserimen7190 5 месяцев назад +1

    👎👎👎👎