That's Why Your Photos AREN'T Sharp

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @MarkDenneyPhoto
    @MarkDenneyPhoto  Год назад +91

    💥QUICK QUESTION: Has this ever happened to you?

    • @DaveBerthiaume
      @DaveBerthiaume Год назад +3

      All the time back in the day! Luckily these days I rarely have focus issues. And if I'm uncertain, I'll grab a bunch of shots with different focal planes and stack them in post if necessary.

    • @gregtowns549
      @gregtowns549 Год назад +2

      Same here Dave. Think I've had all these bite me in the past.

    • @bkc1965
      @bkc1965 Год назад +4

      Definitely, it has happened to me many times in the past. Now, I try to slow down and take my time making sure that I have everything set correctly.

    • @careylymanjones
      @careylymanjones Год назад +5

      Using an ISO setting that is too low can result in too slow shutter speed and/or too large an aperture setting. Saw a good picture that could have been a fantastic photo on a Reddit forum, a while back. It was in Japan, a salaryman was walking home after work, down a narrow, somewhat crowded street. It was blue hour, and the main light source was a series of colored lanterns overhead, which made a nice leading line. But the photographer was trying to keep his ISO down, and had to open his lens up too far. He didn't get quite enough depth of field, and details like the subject's tie and company pin were just soft.
      The photographer nailed "the moment" and the composition, but higher ISO could have let him get better depth of field, and made a good shot a great one. You CAN reduce noise in post, and the newest tools do a pretty good of preserving sharpness, assuming the sharpness is there, to begin with.

    • @wolpoffm
      @wolpoffm Год назад +4

      Mark, early on, the biggest issue I had with focus issues was the use of lower quality (amazon etc) UV filter or the like. Removed all extra filters from the lens and voila - crisp and clear!

  • @tachaerus3146
    @tachaerus3146 Год назад +284

    Hey Mark, just wanted to say that I appreciate you leaving your bloopers in your videos and not constantly editing/chopping in and out like most instructors do to edit out their errors. It gives your videos a much more personable and relatable experience, almost like we're in the room chatting with you. Such a subtle little thing, but adds so much!

    • @crimlarksSteve
      @crimlarksSteve Год назад +3

      I agree! Watching videos where it is clear they have been edited that way is soooo annoying...

    • @gamingSlasher
      @gamingSlasher Год назад +7

      Agree. Creators shouldnt waste their time and energy on getting the perfect setup and editing. It doesnt matter. I have enjoyed videos the most when people were just starting out their youtube career. When they start to focus on the gear and quality they start to loose focus on what they talk about.

    • @HelloYesThisIsDog
      @HelloYesThisIsDog Год назад +1

      Totally agree with you
      “Hey guys *jump cut* so *jump cut* today we’re going to be looking at *jump cut* how to get your photos pin *jump cut* sharp”
      Drives me mad!

    • @ThekenShots
      @ThekenShots Год назад

      True. That's when I subscribed. Give me authentic. lol

    • @merchantmariner6132
      @merchantmariner6132 8 месяцев назад

      What he said!

  • @mikeuptonphoto
    @mikeuptonphoto Год назад +20

    Ok I'm 40 seconds in and I just have to say, whatever you have your lights set to in the back, I ADORE that color. So, so soothing.

    • @jamesraykenney
      @jamesraykenney 2 месяца назад

      Teal??? Or what I think used to be called powderpuff blue?

  • @timpullen9202
    @timpullen9202 Год назад +252

    Also for handheld, put on burst. The first shot will detect the the motion from pressing the shutter release, the second or third shot should be more stable, and the last shot will detect the release of the shutter button. I almost always find the middle shots to be sharpest.

    • @catseyes11
      @catseyes11 Год назад +9

      Yes! I do this too and the middle shots are always the best.

    • @ANTHONYFERNANDO
      @ANTHONYFERNANDO Год назад +9

      Good advice!

    • @iandico
      @iandico Год назад +3

      Thanks will try that 👍

    • @richardwestwood1812
      @richardwestwood1812 Год назад +1

      The 2 second timed release is great too, but with burst, it generally gives a person more choice .

    • @garyrowe58
      @garyrowe58 Год назад +2

      Strange thing ... I usually find that the first of a burst is the best!!

  • @jean-philippeperetti8463
    @jean-philippeperetti8463 Год назад +12

    I have been doing the "hand on shoulder" for a few years. I really like it. It's become natural to do that. This is the first time I see a RUclipsr promoting it. Well done.

  • @lphilpot01
    @lphilpot01 Год назад +138

    Another factor that can detract from sharpness -- particularly for long focal-length shots -- is the instability of the air between the camera and subject. In many cases this can't be avoided, but for example if you're shooting a distant scene and have a choice between shooting over grass vs. over sand / rock / concrete / pavement, the air over the grass will have far less thermal movement and therefore be sharper. As an amateur astronomer, this is a major concern for visual observers, but it applies to photography as well.

    • @energieinfo21
      @energieinfo21 Год назад +5

      I was proud with my 5.6 400 but the softness was disgusting: dark ground under strong sunlight at roughly 0 degree centigrade ... exactly what you say!
      My experience is - if you cannot move - to use shorter shutter speeds. You have some distortion by the hot air but the image looks sharper compared to longer exposures where the motion of the hot/colder air makes everything soft.

    • @deborahtroeller6237
      @deborahtroeller6237 Год назад

      Never thought of this, brilliant!

    • @lphilpot01
      @lphilpot01 Год назад

      @@deborahtroeller6237 It's what astronomers refer to as "seeing" and it's usually the final limiting factor in optical resolution, in that context. Telescopes are almost always seeing-limited rather than optics-limited (assuming quality optics).

    • @gregrobertson2726
      @gregrobertson2726 10 месяцев назад

      Brilliant. I’ve dabbled in astro but it never dawned on me. Thanks sooo much.

    • @ElementaryWatson-123
      @ElementaryWatson-123 8 месяцев назад +2

      Not many people know that a lens hood can play a significant role for long telephoto lenses creating hot air disturbance. Unless you have a stray light hitting the lens, take the hood off.

  • @zone5ive
    @zone5ive 8 месяцев назад +2

    I pay attention to handholding technique. Yet I see many photographers composing and shooting while looking at the screen, holding the camera away from their body. And their photos are sharp.

  • @richardteasdale8014
    @richardteasdale8014 Год назад +8

    Excellent suggestions. As a former manager of a pro camera shop i used to help customers with problems like this. One tip I used to give people that you didn't mention although I'd guess you already know it is in low light situations when you don't have a tripod, you can use your face as your tripod. I did this back in film days when people would rarely be shooting even ASA (see? Long ago) 400 film. Usually they were shooting ASA 100. I found I could shoot the interiors of European cathedrals (dark) by leaning back against a column with my head against the column and holding the camera against three points on my head, the cheek, nose, and forehead, and I could shoot as slow as 1/8 or 1/4 second fairly reliably. 1/2 second was iffy but possible sometimes too. Great video!

  • @AlanEvans789
    @AlanEvans789 Год назад +97

    I found a big bonus to becoming a wheelchair user, I now have a nice solid rest for my supporting elbow for every shot. Although I have to be a bit careful about staying slightly slumped down in the seat. Shooting from my powerchair is pretty good, it has a seat lift, so I can be almost as tall as when I could stand and shoot. The seat also tilts right back, so looking at the night sky is quite pleasant when 'Out really early shooting. Oh and even though it's indoors and pavements only, according to the book, I'm pretty good at off roading in it. It's nice that I live in a UK National Park, the Norfolk Broads, nad have a good relationship with the local farmers, so that I can use the farm tracks and field margins during my wanders.

    • @richardwestwood1812
      @richardwestwood1812 Год назад +11

      You have a very good outlook of life. Many could take a page out of your book .

    • @dedclownsRfunny
      @dedclownsRfunny Год назад +2

      I use a manual wheelchair, and can’t do those things you said, so you’ve def got that over me for this haha

    • @hombreg1
      @hombreg1 8 месяцев назад +3

      My fiancé also uses a wheelchair. She loves photography, so I want to take her out on adventures. You inspired me quite a bit. Thanks

    • @sew_gal7340
      @sew_gal7340 8 месяцев назад

      @@richardwestwood1812what choice do they have, they are stuck in a wheelchair, it's literally forced adaptation.

    • @richardwestwood1812
      @richardwestwood1812 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@sew_gal7340 absolutely none , that is exactly my point . It's so easy to dwell on negatives .

  • @petercollins7848
    @petercollins7848 Год назад +77

    It also depends on what you call ‘sharpness’. We are doing too much pixel-peeping instead of looking at the photo as a whole for composition, exposure content etc. We are also ‘zooming’ in too much on our superb monitors which creates an artificial viewing concept - no one looks at a picture on a wall with their nose stuck six inches away from it! We view photos from a couple of feet away usually, and don’t forget in the outdoors we are looking at our compositions tens to hundreds of feet away or even miles! This ‘sharpness’ obsession is completely false and encourages the purchase of ever more ridiculously expensive cameras and lenses, which of course just what the manufacturers want. If you really think about it, digital cameras years ago only had a few mega-pixels, but were able to produce content that was used in all the glossy magazines and displayed in galleries and no one complained about lack of ‘sharpness’! I only ever have purchased used cameras that have cost at most a few hundred pounds, and print to A3 and receive praise from all who sees them. All Mark Denney’s instruction is spot on, but don’t get hung up on impossibly unnecessary sharpness seeking.

    • @andrewtongue7084
      @andrewtongue7084 Год назад +2

      I agree with you, Peter - there's an almost obsessional fixation in regard to digital cameras; my analogue units (invariably) produce better resolution, shaprness, (& when using colour film) saturation; ultimately, I'll use analogue over digital - tho' the result are obviously not so immediate.

    • @rdspam
      @rdspam 9 месяцев назад +1

      Fwiw, there’s no reason these are mutually exclusive. Of course composition, exposure, depth of field, etc. are important. But there’s no reason not to capture as sharp an image as possible once those are set.

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 9 месяцев назад +1

      True. It is why we sometimes see images that are oversharp, because they were blown up 200% on a monitor, they looked soft and were sharpened even more. Unnaturally sharp images are common nowadays.

    • @Answersonapostcard
      @Answersonapostcard 9 месяцев назад +4

      This obsession with sharpness is a disease. Ansel Adams and countless other photography masters weren’t hung up on it.

    • @serenabuffagni8870
      @serenabuffagni8870 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you so much!! I felt so frustrated, I watch all these videos , see all these sharp pictures and ask myself why I can’t level up with them. MAYBE because I have a 400 dollars (old) camera and not the newest, 2000 dollars model …

  • @Chris-NZ
    @Chris-NZ Год назад +66

    Hi Mark, I think its worth mentioning the advantage of using a wall, doorway, tree , fence post etc as a third point of contact to stabilise yourself for hand-helds , so long as it suits where you want to shoot from . I find this most useful for interiors like museums and art gallery’s which are generally much more dimly lit than you might think. Cheers from NZ 😊

    • @zwieseler
      @zwieseler Год назад +1

      I’d make that Fourth point of contact. L hand, R hand, forehead, shoulder….

    • @ScottThomasPhoto
      @ScottThomasPhoto Год назад +3

      I find in tourists areas there are handy quadpods about in the form of trash cans which can create a very stable foundation.

    • @briankemp9857
      @briankemp9857 Год назад +1

      Ive also used my camera bag like a bean bag

  • @priority-1
    @priority-1 Год назад +16

    @ 7:40ish Recommendation: use your camera bag or a heavy bag to hang from the hook of the bottom of your tripod. This definitely helps to stop some shaking. Also keeping the neck of the tripod as low as possible will help too

    • @glasshalffull2930
      @glasshalffull2930 Год назад +1

      Also, if you have some light weight tripod, it will be difficult to avoid vibration.

  • @jcatnip3556
    @jcatnip3556 Год назад +2

    I've been shooting for 45 years - never thought about the camera strap. I learned something today!

  • @earlmccowen5197
    @earlmccowen5197 Год назад +40

    All good tips, however, regarding the 1/focal length practice, if one is using an APS-C or Micro Four Thirds camera, the shutter speed needs to be increased by 1.5 or 2.0 times to account for the longer apparent focal length with these smaller sensor cameras.

    • @victahh281
      @victahh281 Год назад +1

      Agreed. I use an APS-C sensor camera and I've always done 2x focal length at least.

  • @DaveBerthiaume
    @DaveBerthiaume Год назад +66

    The biggest difference maker for me was learning about the apertures for best sharpness. For years I shot on the high/low ends instead of shooting around f/8 or f/11. I hadn't seen that shoulder resting technique before- might have to try that out. Thanks Mark!

    • @dougdunlop6716
      @dougdunlop6716 Год назад +5

      Ansel Adams had a F 64 school, for landscape photography. My camera only goes down to F 16. You can use "Focus Stacking" programs to keep everything in focus depending on the effect you want. Small aperture means longer shutter speed.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  Год назад

      Thanks for checking out the video Dave!

    • @JsorMezn-jy6xp
      @JsorMezn-jy6xp Год назад +2

      I recently did a 4K city video. Decided to put the hood on the lens and dictate F8 in bright sun. Never seen anything so sharp in my life. 18-135 kit lens at 18

    • @sonica1111
      @sonica1111 Год назад

      Aaaa

    • @nzworkhorse
      @nzworkhorse Год назад +3

      Yes. For most lens, f5.6 or f8 are the sharpest aperture. Landscape should only use f8, f11.

  • @davidphoto2368
    @davidphoto2368 Год назад +12

    This is my first visit to your channel. I've been shooting professionally for over thirty years, and never thought of the "elbow as stabilizer" technique you demonstrated, but I'm definitely going to implement it in the future. Your presentation is excellent, and I always appreciate learning new things from other photographers. Thank you for the great content!

    • @wildfire60
      @wildfire60 Год назад

      That was new to me as well. Went out and tried it. I'm going to check the results.

  • @pretenditsok242
    @pretenditsok242 6 месяцев назад +1

    I know that this video was put out almost a year ago but it’s new to me.Ive been a serious hobby photographer for about 8 years now and for some reason, I find a lot of people sending me DM’s on IG asking different questions about photography but the most common questions have to do with motion blur. I actually prefer the “ appearance” of an out of focus subject which can be just as challenging as an in focus tack sharp image! Lol! One thing I was not expecting you to touch on in your video but was very pleased that you did was the self timer or shutter delay option. I use it often and it has made a world of difference! It amazes me how many people don’t think to use it! It definitely comes in handy! Thanks so much for including this often overlooked but extremely useful feature on your camera when shooting!😊

    • @richardholberry4427
      @richardholberry4427 6 месяцев назад

      What you shooting with? Am using Sony, a6400 actually. Advise is great but in video he also use a Sony. When a slow shutter speed is selected the shutter seems to be slower to react to the touch. If I ramp up the shutter speed then the shutter goes of instantly on pressing the shutter button. Is this normal or a feature of Sony do you know?

  • @JsorMezn-jy6xp
    @JsorMezn-jy6xp Год назад +21

    I had always used 1/120 as my safe handheld shot. It took quite a few lost shots to realize 1/160 is the safer point the moment any action starts. Wide open and too slow caught me up for years. I think we shoot too open not realizing ISO noise is infinity better than it used to be. It also sucks shooting a group portrait at 1.4 and only one person's eyelash is in focus 😂

    • @AffinityPhoto
      @AffinityPhoto Год назад +5

      1/160 makes sense if you are shooting a 135mm lens handheld. It’s too slow for a 400mm shot and way overkill for a 14mm. Double or triple those speeds if the subject is moving.

    • @dedclownsRfunny
      @dedclownsRfunny Год назад +2

      I reckon everyone who doesn’t learn through lessons, learns that exact thing the hard way lol

  • @danielx555
    @danielx555 2 месяца назад

    I'm getting back into photography and I can't tell you how much I'm enjoying going over all of these advice and instruction videos. I'm also noticing that there is so much that has to be learned, it attracts a certain personality type to photography. Everyone is always so methodical and yet open-minded.

  • @PhiZeroth
    @PhiZeroth Год назад +9

    Another big tip on tripod stability: the mirror action on a DSLR can cause the camera to noticeably shake. Learn to use mirror lockup or live view for longer exposures!

    • @mckeekev
      @mckeekev Год назад +4

      I like to compose my shots in the viewfinder then go to live mode. The mirror locks up, then fire away with a 2s shutter delay. Learning this trick really improved camera stability..

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn 7 месяцев назад

      Mirror shake? Living in the past, man.

  • @thepanel2935
    @thepanel2935 10 месяцев назад +1

    If your photos aren't as sharp as you think they should be, wideangle edge distortion in the corners of the picture area can't be cured except by using a better lens! Canon still continues to release expensive and _soft_ wideangles in the 16-35mm and 24-70mm zoom range. Prime lenses are better... and zooms get softer at their _longer_ end than their wider end, generally, across the _entire_ picture area, not just the edges!

  • @TimvanderLeeuw
    @TimvanderLeeuw Год назад +56

    Unless I did not pay enough attention and missed it, another reason for lack of sharpness when shooting on tripod can be the camera's image stabilisation.
    Depending on circumstances, it can help to either turn it off, or turn it on.

    • @LaposMovies
      @LaposMovies Год назад +3

      Especially when you use longer exposure times.

    • @TimvanderLeeuw
      @TimvanderLeeuw Год назад +5

      @@LaposMovies Good point. And also when using longer lenses.
      When image stabilisation most clearly ruined a shot for me, was when I was using a long lens at night (so also a longer exposure).
      I turned it off and the image became nice and sharp.
      When it's a bit windy however and you're on softer ground, sometimes it can be better to turn image stabilisation on instead!
      So it pays to try it out and experiment.

    • @arafinutube
      @arafinutube Год назад +2

      Thanks. All my questions answered in this comment 🙏

    • @thomaswentworth6433
      @thomaswentworth6433 Год назад +1

      Best to turn off.

    • @ArtemMelanich
      @ArtemMelanich Год назад +1

      It looks like it also depends on camera+lens. I saw testing of this and there was no difference on their setup.
      They did not test on huge telephoto though.
      Anyway better test on what you have.

  • @jamesmcpherson1590
    @jamesmcpherson1590 7 месяцев назад +1

    I stumbled over all of those problems when I got into night photography. I thought I just had a crappy camera when my night shots came out grainy. I was absolutely giddy when I figured out that trading iso for exposure time gave me gorgeous night photos. If I forgot to set the 2 second timer, I'd delete the photo without even looking at it. One other tip I learned was that wind can have an effect too on long exposure shots that isn't remedied by a timer. What helps in that case is having a weight bag to dangle from the bottom of the tripod. My best tripod actually has a hook, specifically for this use. Anything from a 2 pound jogging weight to 10 pounds or so in a sturdy grocery bag, depending on the strength of the wind and the sturdiness of the tripod. Err on the side of light if you need to do a lot of walking with it.

  • @nedkelly2035
    @nedkelly2035 Год назад +11

    Something I would add is understanding the difference between sharpness in terms of being in/out of focus vs. depth of field. Of course you get into the things you covered here anyway with that, but when I was teaching I had students who did not get why they had to stop down for some subject matter. BTW- when I was doing press photography, I could almost put a 35mm focal length lens on one of my Nikons, set it to f/8, use hyperfocal "focusing", and not focus at all. I would not use this for portrait or closeup, but in grab shooting it worked out fine.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Год назад +1

      I have heard from quite a few guys that work as press/news photographers "f/8 is your friend when things go crazy!"

    • @nedkelly2035
      @nedkelly2035 Год назад +2

      @@jabezhane What we used to say was "f/8 and BE THERE."

  • @scmclane
    @scmclane Год назад +5

    I have been using the 2 sec shutter delay for years. I often shoot handheld indoor under dramatic lighting (imagine car museum) where it's just not practical to use a tripod, nor do they want people accidentally knocking a tripod into an potentially priceless vehicle. It's good to see someone offering up this advice.

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn 7 месяцев назад

      The 2 second delay often means you can't time the waves too well for seascapes. Better to use a remote trigger and no delay.

  • @tomwear4613
    @tomwear4613 Год назад +13

    With a DSLR another benefit to using the delayed shutter release is that in most cameras the mirror goes up right away, even though the shutter opens 2 seconds, 10 seconds, etc. later. This eliminates the vibration from the mirror snapping up. I assume that's irrelevant with mirrorless though...

    • @dilippb7679
      @dilippb7679 Год назад

      Never noticed that before with my DSLR - thanks

    • @insightphoto
      @insightphoto Год назад +3

      good point although on some DSLR's you have to set the 'mirror lock-up' manually

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn 7 месяцев назад

      Mirror slap lol

  • @johnmullinax1
    @johnmullinax1 Год назад +8

    Good tips. Additional thought: a little discussion on focus calibration and back focus vs. front focus might be helpful, as well.

  • @LoudSilences
    @LoudSilences Год назад +13

    Thanks for the video. Here's one that pretty much no one ever talks about, the resolving ability of a lens. A cheaper lens will never be sharp enough with a high megapixel camera. Trust me I know. I've tried every technique you've mentioned and then some for years until I found out that high megapixel cameras are extremely difficult to get sharp unless you have a very high end lens. Even then, it can be quite difficult. Perhaps you can do a video on that? High megapixel cameras and focus issues. Thanks.

    • @sexysilversurfer
      @sexysilversurfer Год назад

      Plus with high density megapixel cameras diffraction occurs.

    • @jean-marcducommun8185
      @jean-marcducommun8185 Год назад

      Very interesting remark that reminds me on my observation of a standard Nikon 50mm (45MP) I then bought a much bigger lense from Sigma 1:1.4 which is about 4 times the size & weight (!) but pictures are way much better now. Happy you gave me substance on this issue!

    • @SamBorgman
      @SamBorgman Год назад

      Yeah this is always my problem, since I use kit lense and vintage lenses. Many reviewers said great things about my Fuji kit lens but surely it's not that great.

  • @brianm.9062
    @brianm.9062 Год назад

    one more piece of advice which I use and I have to force myself to remember, 'wear your glasses for close inspection work on playback', man has that tripped me up on more than one occasion. great vid.

  • @gabluebirdcam2373
    @gabluebirdcam2373 Год назад +13

    Hi Mark. Thanks for the great info on how to capture sharper photos. I have had more than a few photo shoots where the images looked fine on the camera's display, but when I got home and uploaded them in to Lightroom on my PC, I'd notice that some of the photos were not as sharp as I was expecting. Implementing your helpful tips will definitely help me reduce those "oh, ____" moments in the future. On another note, and to second the comment of another poster, I appreciate you leaving your bloopers in the video instead of editing them out. As a 30-year videographer, it drives me crazy when I have to sit through a video that has a bunch of jump cuts where the presenter's head shifts position every few seconds. That seems to be the norm in a lot of YT videos these days - but it still looks very amateurish. Thanks again. I've subscribed and I'll be perusing your other posted videos.

  • @ask775
    @ask775 8 месяцев назад +1

    After years of photography, I now learned the 1/f rule for minimum shutter speed. You learn something everyday. Thank you.

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn 7 месяцев назад

      It's not a good rule because it doesn't account for how fast the subject is moving. Also with high MP cameras, it's pretty outdated now.

  • @Marleydia
    @Marleydia Год назад +8

    Hey Mark, I’m a wildlife photographer that does a little landscape photography. I have to say that I absolutely love your channel. You’re teaching me so much. I’ve put many of your techniques into practice in the field. Your demeanor and teaching style is awesome. You crack me up with your side commentary. Caffeine puts me on highs speed too! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

    • @MarkDenneyPhoto
      @MarkDenneyPhoto  Год назад +2

      Thanks so much for checking out the video! Glad you enjoyed it:)

  • @i.m.5621
    @i.m.5621 Год назад +1

    Great video, as always! There are just two things missing for me:
    --- 1) Turning off IBIS/OS/VS systems when using a tripod, as mentioned in many comments below.
    --- 2) I'm not sure if someone mentioned this below: In case of windy weather and if lighting conditions allow, it's good to remove the lens hood from the lens (when using on a tripod). The lens hood unnecessarily increases the surface area affected by the wind and causes micro-vibrations of the setup. I particularly mean the long lens hoods for telephoto lenses.

  • @b991228
    @b991228 Год назад +14

    You missed one important thing. Setup your camera for back button focus and use it long enough to become accustom to it. This feature will help you in making a conscious effort to nail the focus and will prevent your accidentally refocusing. If you use it long enough back button focus will become second nature. Then going back to the old shutter button focus will feel annoyingly awkward.

    • @danielsvensson2970
      @danielsvensson2970 Год назад +1

      Massive game changer...

    • @deborahtroeller6237
      @deborahtroeller6237 Год назад

      Can someone please explain back button focus for me?

    • @danielsvensson2970
      @danielsvensson2970 Год назад +2

      @@deborahtroeller6237 You map focus to a button, usually by your thumb. This way shutter and focus are now decoupled and you control either or both at will. As opposed to shutter button always forcing refocus AND shutter action. In situations with movement, you just hold the focus button when you want continuous focus to be active. When focus is right and you don't wanna have redo it, take as many pictures you want until you want to refocus. You get more control.

    • @deborahtroeller6237
      @deborahtroeller6237 Год назад

      I do something similar, I try holding the button after I get my image in focus and that usually works unless there's movement of course. What I don't understand is how to "setup for back button focus". Another contributor here used the phrase "map focus to a button" to decouple the shutter and the focus but HOW do you do that???

    • @deborahtroeller6237
      @deborahtroeller6237 Год назад

      Okay thanks, you said "map focus to a button" but HOW do you do that??? I have no idea what that means??? Map focus?

  • @hotflashfoto
    @hotflashfoto Год назад +1

    Very good points! Thank you.
    I use back-button focus with AF-C. This allows me to control whether there is focusing being done or not, and the shutter release is simply that - a shutter release.
    If I'm going to be using my camera on a tripod and taking a lot of shots, I'll use a wireless remote. This allows me to sit on a chair or in the car. Plus, since it's also an intervalometer, I don't even have to babysit it. It will take the shots while I take a nap or engage in a discussion.

  • @mikeaphotogc
    @mikeaphotogc Год назад +4

    Yes, many of these! It may seem obvious, but a mistake I've made (if focusing using back button focus or manual) is 'locking' focus with a zoom lens at full tele then zooming back out for a wider view and shoot. Most, if not all zoom lenses will need re-focusing. Thanks Mark for another great video.

    • @maxx-er3fj
      @maxx-er3fj Год назад

      If you are using canon you have zoom option when using screen live view, so it is easier to focus small objects

  • @qsxdr7
    @qsxdr7 9 месяцев назад +2

    Also: 1.) Work on your breathing technique when hand holding. It should be the same as somebody target shooting on a rifle range. ie Breath in, then breathe out slowly about half way until your torso is relaxed and static. Then shoot. 2.) If you're shooting indoors on a tripod doing a long exposure. Do the 2 or 10 second delay, and then freeze motionless until the shutter has clicked. Otherwise vibrations will go through the floorboards and shake the tripod & camera. 3.) If you're shooting on a DSLR, use the mirror lock-up facility combined with the 2 or 10 second delay. The mirror will flip up as you press the button, thereby giving the camera time to settle down.

  • @Otaku155
    @Otaku155 Год назад +18

    It could be that you use your tee-shirt to wipe your glass...

  • @JoshHarrisPhotography
    @JoshHarrisPhotography Год назад +18

    Using back-button AF, among other benefits, eliminates the need for shooting in AF-S. I have separate user settings for handheld and tripod and I bake the appropriate servo into those settings. Also, for #7 on this list, I don't know if this holds true in today's mirrorless/IBS world, but back in the DSLR days it was best to turn image stabilization OFF when on a tripod, as stabilization depended on some movement in the lens itself. I back that into my user settings as well on my Z7 so not sure if it's still necessary, but as of a few years ago it was.

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 9 месяцев назад +1

      Depends on the lens, but most modern lenses can detect when they are on a tripod. Also, there is a difference between being locked down on a tripod and being loose on a tripod (as using a gimbal).

  • @rpinspiredphotography4641
    @rpinspiredphotography4641 Год назад +7

    One that you didn't mention is turning off image stabilization when using a tripod. It is always looking for movement and can miss calculate what it thinks is movements. Thus correcting for something that isn't needed. Softening the image. For me, it is just a matter of remembering all the little things you mentioned b4 firing of a shot. I'm not 30 anymore and have only been serious about photography for the last 3 years. So, the old mental muscle memory isn't locked in yet. LOL!! Great stuff as always Mark!!

  • @douglashaag1127
    @douglashaag1127 Год назад +2

    AFC vs AFS would not be an issue for missed focus if you use back button focus --- unless, of course, you FAIL to release the button when desired focus is acquired.
    I found one additional factor that you didn't mention that has adversely affected my sharpness. I used to use a 70-300 telephoto lens that cost less than $500, Eventually, I upgraded to a telephoto lens that cost well over $1,000. At all the same settings and shooting techniques, the expensive lens produced sharper results. So lenses do have quality differences that can't be offset by any of your tips.
    That having been said, within the confines of a specific lens and auto focus activated with half press of the shutter release, all your tips are spot on and EXCELLENT..

  • @cre8tivity06
    @cre8tivity06 Год назад +9

    One thing that you didn’t mention that could be an issue for soft images is if the camera’s diopter isn’t dialed in and rock solid sharp. If that is slightly not as sharp as it should be, it could result in images being soft. Also I use an app on my iPhone to control my Sony camera so I don’t have to touch the camera for long exposure shots but using the timer works too.

    • @stephenschmid492
      @stephenschmid492 Год назад +1

      The diopter affects the sharpness of the viewfinder, not of the images you take with the camera.

    • @cre8tivity06
      @cre8tivity06 Год назад +3

      @@stephenschmid492 correct and if the diopter is not dialed in correctly what you think you see in the viewfinder is in focus when in reality your images may be not as sharp. Im basically saying it could throw you off if your viewfinder isn't sharp. Its happened to me once thats why I mentioned it lol.

    • @stephenschmid492
      @stephenschmid492 Год назад

      @@cre8tivity06 Gotcha. When I manually focus, I use the highlighter function on the EVF, which doesn't really depend on the diopter.

  • @BrianBower-x4w
    @BrianBower-x4w Год назад +3

    Hi Mark, one thing should be addressed is that DSLR cameras, not Mirrorless or Canon 5DSR, all have an anti-alias filter that will introduce a blur to every image, sharpening must be applied. Some sharpening might be done automatically when shooting in JPEG, but RAW images will need sharpening in various amounts, depending on size of enlargement.

  • @bkc1965
    @bkc1965 Год назад +6

    Great video and extremely useful tips. Thanks for sharing, Mark. I would like to add two tips that I try to follow as well.
    1. Make sure that image stabilization is turned off if I am using a tripod. Some lenses act a bit "jittery" if stabilzation is turned on while on a tripod. If you are on a tripod, you don't need stabilization...if you do, you need a new tripod.
    2. If I am shooting a scene with plants or leaves on trees etc. and it is windy, then I need to have a higher shutter speed to move any wind induced movement in the scene itself. I learned this tip from a great photographic educator named Mark Denney in a previous video. 😁 Thanks again Mark!

  • @johnshares
    @johnshares 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for these tips Mark, plus another tip you showed. That is, when talking to camera ,lean on a table with your elbow, your posture is consistent, frame after frame. Cheers from Australia.

  • @samanthalefebvre6235
    @samanthalefebvre6235 Год назад +3

    I really enjoyed this video! All such fantastic points, thanks! When I am doing product photography, in addition to what you mentioned I also choose digital shutter release, and once I’ve got my focus, I turn off the touchscreen focus option and use it as my shutter release. It only takes a very light touch to snap the photo and when combined with 2 second delay was little to none for shake compared to the wobble recovery from pressing on the shutter button.

  • @sbm1961
    @sbm1961 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video! Thanks for not including distracting music or sounds in the background.

  • @CAPHOTO1961
    @CAPHOTO1961 Год назад +9

    Using back focus button is definitely the first thing you should do for your camera. Also setting up and doing a focus check on each lens is very important. There is a reason they include an in body focus adjustment on most dslr's. Even though that lens may be brand new from the factory, doesnt mean its focus is dead on. It can be different on every camera body you use. Problems of back focus or front focus issues can be a real thing. I have a nikkor 200-500 f5.6 that was back focusing and once I adjusted it, I stopped getting soft pictures. Also keep in mind that if hand holding, its best not to use a shutter speed slower than the focal length of the lens.

    • @jabezhane
      @jabezhane Год назад +2

      I really like doing focus checks on my lenses. It is surprisng how out they can be and it's nice to know your lens is dialed in to your camera.

    • @davidrothschild3467
      @davidrothschild3467 8 месяцев назад

      Does this also apply to system camera’s. I use Fuji x system. Having problems with proper focusing and sharpness.

    • @CAPHOTO1961
      @CAPHOTO1961 8 месяцев назад

      Look in your camera menu to see if you can find a folder for focus adjustment. Then you can either buy a focus target kit or make one yourself using yardsticks or metric rulers. Its easy to do. You have the camera focus on the target and take a shot. Then look at the scale or yardsticks to see where the camera actually focused. It can either front or back focus. Then you adjust the focus in the settings in the camera. Do a YT check for your camera and see what you can find.

    • @davidrothschild3467
      @davidrothschild3467 8 месяцев назад

      It’s a system camera, so no mirror. I’m not sure if all these testing options are possible. I’ll check. Would this be considered “calibration” or “calibrating”?

  • @alanm.6096
    @alanm.6096 Год назад +1

    Great stuff Mark. I always tell novices that their first investment is not a 2nd lens, but rather a good sturdy tripod. And I fully agree with the self-timer delay idea. 100%. And the other thing I recommend is learning how to use the magnify function for the LCD screen to look at the image before they move on! Nine times out of 10, novices think the image looks great and sharp and then realize it did look nice and sharp on a small screen, but.... It doesn't hurt to go into full manual mode and try your luck at some manual focusing too.

  • @ggarciacota
    @ggarciacota Год назад +9

    Great tips Mark. I would add that hanging your camera bag on the bottom hook of a tripod center shaft provides more stability to the tripod for long exposures if there is not a lot of wind that can move the bag. Thank you for the video!

  • @GenericPast
    @GenericPast Год назад +2

    Tried that technique of one hand on the other shoulder and resting camera on elbow and I love it. My hands are a little shaky but I tried this indoors and I could get at least a 1 second exposure without having much blur

  • @jean-marcducommun8185
    @jean-marcducommun8185 Год назад +4

    Clearly a weakness in my photography I must say - what I sort of missed (and seems to be my particular problem) is respecting the depht of field of your lense as your photo might need a range of sharpness which has a lot to do with the size of your lense, the aperture setting and distance. For DSLR shooters to bring up the mirror ahead of taking the picture is another point that might have been pointed out more clearly. But May be I’m the last one shooting with outdated gear.

    • @alansach8437
      @alansach8437 Год назад

      No such thing as "outdated gear". Your gear is just as good as the day you bought it. If it does what you need it to do, it isn't outdated.

  • @peterpt1
    @peterpt1 Год назад +2

    One technique I use when I'm shooting at the limit of handheld, and don't have a tripod, is to use a wall, a tree, a post, or some solid fixed object to brace myself and the camera against (as long as you can still get your framing.) That works really well to extend the limits of handheld shots.

  • @AxisPointDev
    @AxisPointDev 11 месяцев назад +2

    Should you turn off IBIS and lens stabilization when using a monopol or tripod?

  • @johnvrabec9747
    @johnvrabec9747 Год назад +3

    Great video. Also, if you are taking some night shots of stars or the moon, enable mirror lock up and the delay to prevent shakiness. Also, disable autofocus for that as well so the camera is not "hunting" to focus on something.

  • @deanelliot4127
    @deanelliot4127 Год назад +1

    Wonderful advice, as usual. I suggest another tip to consider - turn off stabilization when using a tripod.

  • @thepanel2935
    @thepanel2935 9 месяцев назад +3

    Canon shooter here. Ironically, I am strongly starting to suspect that f/5.6 is giving me better results than f/8, which is generally the go-to aperture for best optical performance. (The general rule of thumb in the industry is, *_always_* use f/8 _unless_ you have a specific reason not to - such as requiring more - or less - depth of field than f/8 can provide.)

  • @hulsey1667
    @hulsey1667 26 дней назад +1

    For those of us still using a DSLR, utilising mirror lockup can also reduce vibrations even further. That big ol' mirror slapping up can cause detail robbing vibrations

  • @cris_studio_fotografia9523
    @cris_studio_fotografia9523 7 месяцев назад +5

    "I never ever use the strap when the camera is on the tripod" then we have a plot twist at 8:30 😂

  • @josephponce8903
    @josephponce8903 Год назад

    I would like to add on the topic.
    IBIS.
    When you're using a tripod, turn it off.
    I did a little experiment before using a 600mm lens, shot the moon with a 10s delay. While counting down, I noticed the image in the LCD display wobbling. At first I thought it was the tripod being loose. Eventually figured out that it was the IBIS or OS in the lens.
    Great video!!!

  • @steveboys5369
    @steveboys5369 Год назад +3

    Hi Mark, one curious thing i found when using a tripod. If I didn’t turn off VR on my long lens, occasionally the image wouldn’t be sharp. So I concluded that the VR feature must have been trying to compensate for movement that actually wasn’t there.

    • @uhoh7541
      @uhoh7541 Год назад

      I've heard yes and no to this question and both sides had arguments why or why not. Are you using a DSLR or mirrorless?

    • @sgpork
      @sgpork Год назад

      As long its on a tripod. (Shooting long exposure especially) Turn it off. The tripod is there to stablize already you dont need lens or camera in body stablize anymore. If you had it on. There will be chance your shot will become blurry because the camera will get confused

  • @jenniferkichinko9125
    @jenniferkichinko9125 Год назад +1

    That sunset Timelapse towards the end was incredible!! Would love to see a video on that technique one of these days. Really awesome!

  • @DrJWR1
    @DrJWR1 Год назад +1

    In my humble opinion, you are a professional and I am not, failing to use a remote shutter release is missing the boat. Mine is a cable release, but, the electronic remote shutter release devices don’t even come in contact with the camera and induce the least shake. Just like it’s important to remove the strap from the camera when it’s on the tripod, it’s important to secure the shutter release cable, as it, too, can swing and induce shake if it’s allowed to dangle. Thanks for another great video!

  • @AndreaMittel
    @AndreaMittel Месяц назад

    Seriously thank you for explaining everything in a simple way and keeping it dumbed down for some of us beginners

  • @Mostlyphotography83
    @Mostlyphotography83 3 месяца назад

    Hi Mark! Everything you said it's true. One important detail, at least for Nikon shooters will be to check the lens "AF fine tune" option on the menu. I noticed my 50mm was "front focusing" like 6 inches. Anything 6 inches closer than the main subject was sharper. Not always the communication between the camera and the lens is 100% accurate, that's why the AF fine tune tool is for. Happy shooting!

  • @lsaideOK
    @lsaideOK Год назад

    One of the most significant adjustments I have made was disengaging the shutter button from focus using back button focus. Now, I always use AF-C. If I want to lock focus, then I just take my finger off the back button. Some beginners don't even know they can choose the focus point! Nice video!

  • @dorisdoesderbyshire9353
    @dorisdoesderbyshire9353 Год назад

    One that used to trip me up was leaving image stabilisation on when my camera was mounted on a tripod. Fell for that one a few times. All the best Russ

  • @lescobrandon3047
    @lescobrandon3047 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve used 3D Focus Tracking for most subjects. It holds focus on the eye no matter if the subject is moving in any direction.

  • @Fender1031
    @Fender1031 Год назад

    Using the 2,5 or 10 second delay is so nice when you are hand holding a shot. It more or less surprises you and can really get into a tight hold if you have to.

  • @scarcesense6449
    @scarcesense6449 Год назад +2

    I used to tie my lens cap to my camera and that had the same problem as the strap. It's incredible how much vibration can be sent through your entire setup just from a tiny piece of plastic tapping the leg of your tripod. If I was zoomed in far enough my subject could leave the frame entirely, let alone add motion blur to the image.

  • @stefanhensel8611
    @stefanhensel8611 Год назад +1

    It looked like clickbaiting at first, but these are really useful tips. Thanks a lot!

  • @bryant928
    @bryant928 Год назад

    I really appreciate the reenactments, especially the shoulder strap swinging in the wind.

  • @linkedinfred
    @linkedinfred Год назад

    Great video! One to add is if your camera is on a tripod turn OFF image Stabilisation

  • @briandonaldson612stringgui8
    @briandonaldson612stringgui8 9 месяцев назад

    Best tip was to range your aperture to find the sharpest. Never thought of doing that. Everything else you mentioned I already do. But the test... brilliant. Thanks

  • @savinggracechurch4112
    @savinggracechurch4112 Год назад

    Great video.
    There is also the fact that we are super critical on our images when, in actual fact, if we had our images in an excerbition, people would view them from a certain distance away.

  • @jensruckert4763
    @jensruckert4763 Год назад

    … for my Leica M landscape & night shooting I use a tripod and a cable release. And you’re definitely right about those camera straps! And yes, the sharpest aperture for many of my lenses is around 2 or 3 times the greatest one, like f 2 this would mean around f4 to f5.6…
    Another thing… about tripods - either use sturdy stable ones, or don’t put them to their whole length or just use a wall or sth else, as those tripods can slightly kind of vibrate because of wind e.g. which goes to the camera as well …
    And for autofocus: don’t underestimate the back focus button 😊
    also use the mirror pre-release if you work with a dslr …
    Always good light!

  • @cliffcastle9808
    @cliffcastle9808 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the tip about the timer. Makes total sense and works. Sometimes the simplest solutions are the most difficult to come by!

  • @richvandervecken3954
    @richvandervecken3954 22 дня назад

    It was suggested to me long ago, to take multiple shots of the same scene but using alternate F stops or ISO settings even changing the shutter speed for some different effects if a stream or waterfall is in view. Experience is the best teacher and you will soon learn the best setting for you camera under certain conditions which makes it faster to try the different settings for different effects when lighting conditions are changing fast like at sunrise or sunset.

  • @frtzkng
    @frtzkng Год назад +1

    If you're doing landscape on a tripod, long exposure, or really anything that doesn't require fast setup, turn off AF all together and manually focus using live view, and enlarge the image using that magnifying glass button. It's slow but you can pin-point for maximum sharpness exactly. It's easier using lenses whose focus ring turns a very wide angle, which often also are the ones with slow AF.

  • @LeviFiction
    @LeviFiction Год назад +1

    I use a wire release twice per year: 1) For Fireworks (can't be waiting 2 seconds per photo there) and 2) for milkyway photos because my camera does not have an advanced built-in intervalometer. But yeah, I almost never use it any other time. For me from this list of possible options, my biggest is I'm almost always going hand-held and I have weak arms. That new holding the shoulder to make a platform trick might come in handy. Will look forward to trying that, at least it seems a lot more stable than tucking in my elbows sitting here on the couch. Thanks for that.

  • @zfreek98
    @zfreek98 Год назад +1

    There's one other for when it comes to capturing action or moving subjects. Make sure you're not in a vibration reduction/compensation mode intended for still subjects if your target is moving.

  • @brainfreeze1925
    @brainfreeze1925 Год назад

    Those peak design clips are fantastic! I received some for Christmas a couple of years ago and I've attached them to various items. (BTW, I have an inexpensive remote I picked up on Amazon and have used it for 7 years on my Sony cameras. It also includes a two second delay if I want to jump into the frame. I almost always use this instead of a delayed shutter release. One huge advantage of the remote is that it allows you to shoot bracketed images with long exposures. Press it once and that's it.)

  • @GangGr33nanarchist
    @GangGr33nanarchist Год назад

    Love the shutter delay suggestion. This is the first time I have heard someone mention that.

  • @clean.parker
    @clean.parker Год назад

    Your explanations were exceedingly easy to understand. I've watched quite a few videos on these issues, only to feel confused, and frustrated. No reaching for two Advil this time. Thank you!

  • @paulcooper9187
    @paulcooper9187 Год назад +2

    One that has caught me several times is the OIS on Fuji. I switch it off to use the tripod, and thats fine for me, BUT I forget to switch it back on when I take it off the tripod , and then shoot thinking its on, and you can get very soft images, in low light conditions .

  • @butchkenney8123
    @butchkenney8123 Год назад

    OMG hand over shoulder trick just blew my mind. Never heard of that stability trick before. Thanks!

  • @metchac
    @metchac Месяц назад

    Mark, you’re the Bob Ross of photography. Thank you for all your videos 🙌

  • @olafzijnbuis
    @olafzijnbuis Год назад +1

    With stationary subjects and on a tripod I use Life View. Then zoom in 10x on the part that matters and manual focus.
    Nice video!

  • @CharlesR-x6d
    @CharlesR-x6d Год назад

    Absolutely some very vital info for a rookie like me who just wants to take pics as a hobby and nothing..more but of course the sharper the image the better...

  • @rasmuswi
    @rasmuswi 11 месяцев назад +1

    If your camera has a touch screen, and it can be set up as a shutter button (as opposed to a focus, then shoot button), that tends to be another way to reduce camera shake. Especially if used together with the delay, but I often find that I get sharp images even without delay when using the touch screen as my shutter button.
    Another method I occasionally use is to use the mobile app as a remote control.

  • @josealeman8082
    @josealeman8082 6 месяцев назад

    I really enjoy the drama you put in when making a particular point. Keep the good work!

  • @madiko
    @madiko Год назад

    Thank you Mark. I'd like to add one more, that is likely my most common mistake: on a Canon Mark III you'll find near the peeker a little wheel to sharpen the preview. Before I take pictures I use the auto-focus to make sure, that this suites my needs. Putting the camera in and out of the pocket makes it necessary to adjust the wheel regularly. Thanks for sharing your insights and enjoy your day 👋🏼

  • @Gogreenoo3
    @Gogreenoo3 27 дней назад

    For DSLR users that still have a mirror, you can also use the mirror lock up function. Like the delayed shutter, the mirror can lock up seconds before the shot to eliminate that source of vibration. For a long exposure it can impact your image.

  • @peterdenyer3002
    @peterdenyer3002 8 месяцев назад

    Great vid, also worth pointing out here that if you are shooting on a tripod, turn of any image stabilization. It can get confused and jitter causing the very issue it is designed to combat.

  • @alanalanh4260
    @alanalanh4260 Год назад +1

    Simple tips but they got me last week on a photo trip to Newfoundland. Very cold and windy hand held. Changing focus to single shot and increasing shutter speed would have helped a lot. Thanks to Topaz AI I have some good shots but keeping ones head in the game when uncomfortable is key to good results.

  • @jablosounds
    @jablosounds Год назад +2

    i love that photographer videos are always of the best displays of video quality in the youtube community. that’s what helps me immediately tell if they know what they’re talking about.

    • @alastairleith8612
      @alastairleith8612 7 месяцев назад

      Madison Avenue has news for you… production values are no guaranty of truth or knowledgeability. in fact in some countries outside the USA (such as India) high quality (read costly) production techniques arouse suspicion and to many, imply inherent dishonesty.

  • @doctajonz2828
    @doctajonz2828 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great tips! The hand on shoulder stabilization I’ve never heard of…brilliant! Liked and subscribed. 😉

  • @hw7504
    @hw7504 9 месяцев назад +1

    #2 is misleading. It should be light starvation OR inappropriate aperture/shutter settings. You're not going to spontaneously recover detail/sharpness by dialing down to ISO 100 for that scene with the same aperture/shutter. You're just going to get a bunch of downstream noise once you adjust for exposure in post which of course will detract from sharpness. It's the combination of the scene/subject brightness and your aperture/shutter that necessitate whatever ISO you're ultimately stuck with to achieve the correct exposure that is the real reason of detail loss.
    There's an aperture priority mode and a shutter priority mode but no ISO priority mode; ISO is not typically an artistic decision or intention when pursuing conventional image quality. If you've decided on a depth of field and the slowest shutter possible to achieve the intended level of motion (or lack thereof), the ISO that the camera says gives you your correct exposure is what you are stuck with. If you are ultimately lacking light and cannot supply external source (flash or otherwise), you will lose sharpness/detail and lowering ISO will not recover that sharpness for you.
    Using your own example, the ISO being at 12800 isn't the core cause of detail loss; it's the use of a 1/640 shutter for a scene that can be captured at 1/10 shutter---an inappropriate shutter setting. You're artificially creating a light starved situation that necessitates an ISO 12800 amount of amplification just to achieve the correct exposure level.

  • @hrushikeshvasista4605
    @hrushikeshvasista4605 Год назад +1

    Mark, truly appreciate the video content... as always crisp delivery of the content without much ado! The AFC vs AFS and the lens' sharpness are the things that hadn't crossed my mind, thanks for this wonderful video!

  • @boblyons1785
    @boblyons1785 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for sharing Mark! "sharpest Aperture Range"! ! ... how I've missed this all these years? i don't know. But this tip is super helpful for me. I've been struggling with a particular lens of mine (wildlife) and i am thrilled to try this technique.