I accept the secret Christian handshake. 😇 Anyway, I am disappointed that the Red didn't do as well as the Arri. I knew which was which from the first shot because the Red didn't get as much detail in the shadows as the Arri and also the Red was cropped in more because of the S35 sensor. Right now I'm choosing between the FX6 and the Canon C400 for my future career in narrative. Edit: Also it looks like you keep a Promist filter on your Red at all times?
@@CringePanda believe it or not, right after making this video, I took it off😂 It become a constant on my rig early last year. It became almost second nature, until I took it off and realized it needs to be used intentionally🙌🏻
Yep i could tell immediately ... Arri just has a softer more natural look to it. So nice. The Red looks great though ... I think only camera geeks will realize the difference. Most people wont realize but they might sense that it just looks nicer (even in their subconscious)..
Yeah, I figured Camera B was the Alexa. The Alexa Cameras are known to have more of a filmic look. Verses the Red which appears more contrasty. All in all, they’re both amazing cameras.
We used my Komodo, because of its global shutter, on a Paramount film with two Arri LF’s. No one could tell we mixed cameras. Footage from the Komodo was in 20% of the film. It’s a great little camera!
proper exposure and then grading is everything. The vast majority of people regardless of who they are would not be able to tell what camera was used where when the people actually know their tools inside out. Only in extreme situations where there are errors and no choice (like the only take of a shot that can be used was the one taken by the dancing squirrel and a potato) do limitations show through.
I guessed it right, alexa mini & xt plus owner 😅 glad i didn’t screw that up! Couldn’t really tell from the “color” per say, as there was a decently heavy look applied and there wasnt much color in the frames/very neutral tones (black,grey,whites) But the biggest give away was the raised shadows in the arri vs the crunchy blacks in the komodo. Usually i have to go out of my way to get that look when colouring my footage
I've shot on both the Komodo and Alexa LF dozens of times. I did liked B more, but wasn't 100% sure which was which. When doing side by sides and uploading to youtube, the differences feel negligible. But in actual practice, ESPECIALLY when shooting in high contrast situations like interiors with natural light out the windows, the difference is huge. Any Alexa is going to provide a better looking image IMO... But, the Komodo is an amazing camera that I love so much. Going from the Komodo to the Alexa isn't going to launch your career forward. If I had a choice of a #1 better/larger crew (to a point), #2 better talent, #3 better location, #4 better lighting and grip package, or #5 jumping to the Alexa, the Alexa would be at the bottom of that list.
The cameras look almost exactly the same in your examples and many others I seen. My advice is to get the Komodo and add the price savings to your production design or an actor with some name recognition. That’s what will matter the most for a low budget film. The audience will never notice the difference between the two cameras.
exactly. I remember many a year ago where I would receive different footage and cgi. We had to match and integrate all together. The tools 20 years later are way better like resolve and nuke. you can match pretty much anything to anything if you know what you are looking at in qualities from grain size, contrast, black points and diffusion/sharpness level. The biggest differences in cameras produced these days has more to do with reliability and form factor really. if someone has the budget to rent the LF or other cams like it then it makes sense to not even own a cam thats toooo expensive unless you can afford that for your passion. Cams like the komodo and even the new pyxy/pocket 6 ka rehouse are fantastic value in the right hands. Lens, lighting and grading makes much more of a difference than anything in any case. The "digital look" can be effected by knowing what to look for and dealing with that in resolve/nuke or what ever you use.
i watched the video and didnt see a big diffrence. then i found out i am watching at 720p 😂🤦♀after setting the video to 2160p i saw it. the alexa has a more pleasing image to me. thanks for this video ☺🙌
Got it wrong - mind you, I’m looking at this on my smartphone. One thing to bear in mind - on Red versus Arri generally - is that it was the Red Company that led the way circa 2009 in the “innovation” of movies capable of being shot digitally - and much of the industry being satisfied that this move away from celluloid was acceptable. So - check out the movies shot on the first Red cameras back then - and ask yourself: In absolute terms - and ignoring the specific issue dealt with in this video - was the Red capable of producing the goods ? Or - to put it another way - did Arri then getting in on the action lead to a quantum leap (with movies shot on their Alexa) over the Red ? The tech specs of most movies shot from 2009/2010 on are available on IMDb - but watch the movie first and then look at tech specs !!!!
i was able to tell the difference because of the ludicrous dynamic range of the Alexa, but they look way too similar... and with the Komodo having a $3000 off price drop?!
Looks like they need to be graded similarly to compare. Straight out of camera isn’t good enough. The Red had way more contrast so it’s hard to see any difference because they look like the same camera with different color grades.
@@gangfortnite6186 hehe 10x? If some one knows their tool and has a purpose in mind, their are many cams out there that could be better than either the sony or the red for them. Just depends on their budget and what they are actually shooting.
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Sigh. I say this to all artists who rely on specific electronic or other gear--musicians, filmmakers, etc... "A poor craftsman blames his tools". Do you think one person in history walked out of a Hitchcock film complaining about the lack of a drone shot or not having whip-pans? The story, the song, the depth of thinking put into anything artistic--is where the value is, not the fact you shot it in 16-bit with 18 stops of whatever.
@@RiverCody well you made a pretty good job there, bc i though you used it. i use it to grade my gemini footage and it looks like your komodo footage 🙌
Just curious, have you ever tried Fujifilm GFX100 ii? I own a Komodo to, but I am thinking selling all my gear incl. XT-4 and buying the medium format instead 😊
The GFX is a great still camera. For motion images, you will love the quality if your camera is static however the rolling shutter on the GFX may frustrate you in instances that you pan or have certain types of motion in your imagery. I was highly disappointed in some footage I was really looking forward to reviewing on a project that I did not have the opportunity to reshoot. On the other hand for the cost of the GFX vs the Komodo may enable you to purchase perhaps a new gfx and a used black magic pocket to shoot video with when you want to shoot motion? hmm......
People need to understand one thing about all these comparisons ARRI is that expensive, because the construction quality is very high, an ARRI is close to indestructible. That's half the price. Then you pay a lot for the service you get from ARRI, which is pretty brutally good, but none of this will affect the picture. Whether blackmagic or red or arri, in the end it doesn't matter. None at all. As long as you're not making a feature film and rely on service and maintenance and indestructibility, there's no reason, by God, to buy an ARRI. Even red has now officially reduced its prices by 30% because blackmagic has become so strong.
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I accept the secret Christian handshake. 😇 Anyway, I am disappointed that the Red didn't do as well as the Arri. I knew which was which from the first shot because the Red didn't get as much detail in the shadows as the Arri and also the Red was cropped in more because of the S35 sensor. Right now I'm choosing between the FX6 and the Canon C400 for my future career in narrative. Edit: Also it looks like you keep a Promist filter on your Red at all times?
@@CringePanda believe it or not, right after making this video, I took it off😂 It become a constant on my rig early last year. It became almost second nature, until I took it off and realized it needs to be used intentionally🙌🏻
As soon as you flipped the light switch in the bathroom, I knew which was which. The ARRI dynamic range is just insane
Yep i could tell immediately ... Arri just has a softer more natural look to it. So nice. The Red looks great though ... I think only camera geeks will realize the difference. Most people wont realize but they might sense that it just looks nicer (even in their subconscious)..
Yeah, I figured Camera B was the Alexa. The Alexa Cameras are known to have more of a filmic look. Verses the Red which appears more contrasty. All in all, they’re both amazing cameras.
We used my Komodo, because of its global shutter, on a Paramount film with two Arri LF’s. No one could tell we mixed cameras. Footage from the Komodo was in 20% of the film. It’s a great little camera!
proper exposure and then grading is everything. The vast majority of people regardless of who they are would not be able to tell what camera was used where when the people actually know their tools inside out. Only in extreme situations where there are errors and no choice (like the only take of a shot that can be used was the one taken by the dancing squirrel and a potato) do limitations show through.
I guessed it right, alexa mini & xt plus owner 😅 glad i didn’t screw that up!
Couldn’t really tell from the “color” per say, as there was a decently heavy look applied and there wasnt much color in the frames/very neutral tones (black,grey,whites)
But the biggest give away was the raised shadows in the arri vs the crunchy blacks in the komodo. Usually i have to go out of my way to get that look when colouring my footage
I've shot on both the Komodo and Alexa LF dozens of times. I did liked B more, but wasn't 100% sure which was which. When doing side by sides and uploading to youtube, the differences feel negligible. But in actual practice, ESPECIALLY when shooting in high contrast situations like interiors with natural light out the windows, the difference is huge. Any Alexa is going to provide a better looking image IMO... But, the Komodo is an amazing camera that I love so much. Going from the Komodo to the Alexa isn't going to launch your career forward.
If I had a choice of a #1 better/larger crew (to a point), #2 better talent, #3 better location, #4 better lighting and grip package, or #5 jumping to the Alexa, the Alexa would be at the bottom of that list.
Yeah I could tell B was the Arri, it just looked "softer" and less digital. Also it saw in those shadows pretty dang well.
Main difference is the highlight rolloff and how the Alexa handles shadows. The ALEV 3 sensor is just… It’s special.
Yeah this was probably the most obvious test answer yet, that Arri DR be wildin. I knew it's better but this test really solidified it.
The cameras look almost exactly the same in your examples and many others I seen. My advice is to get the Komodo and add the price savings to your production design or an actor with some name recognition. That’s what will matter the most for a low budget film. The audience will never notice the difference between the two cameras.
exactly. I remember many a year ago where I would receive different footage and cgi. We had to match and integrate all together. The tools 20 years later are way better like resolve and nuke. you can match pretty much anything to anything if you know what you are looking at in qualities from grain size, contrast, black points and diffusion/sharpness level. The biggest differences in cameras produced these days has more to do with reliability and form factor really. if someone has the budget to rent the LF or other cams like it then it makes sense to not even own a cam thats toooo expensive unless you can afford that for your passion. Cams like the komodo and even the new pyxy/pocket 6 ka rehouse are fantastic value in the right hands. Lens, lighting and grading makes much more of a difference than anything in any case. The "digital look" can be effected by knowing what to look for and dealing with that in resolve/nuke or what ever you use.
I mean the Komodo is a hollywood movie camera lol.
i watched the video and didnt see a big diffrence. then i found out i am watching at 720p 😂🤦♀after setting the video to 2160p i saw it. the alexa has a more pleasing image to me.
thanks for this video
☺🙌
The Arri Alexa had no glare when you turned on the lights.
I knew CAM A was RED, the Alexa i think has better dynamic range, in colors they look similar...nice video and content!
Wow so close, I got it wrong as well, Red seemed a little more smooth and ARRI just a touch quicker or faster in image style.
dope video! subbed
God bless!
The B cam had well saved shadows but that’s what I was looking for…
Got it wrong - mind you, I’m looking at this on my smartphone. One thing to bear in mind - on Red versus Arri generally - is that it was the Red Company that led the way circa 2009 in the “innovation” of movies capable of being shot digitally - and much of the industry being satisfied that this move away from celluloid was acceptable. So - check out the movies shot on the first Red cameras back then - and ask yourself: In absolute terms - and ignoring the specific issue dealt with in this video - was the Red capable of producing the goods ? Or - to put it another way - did Arri then getting in on the action lead to a quantum leap (with movies shot on their Alexa) over the Red ? The tech specs of most movies shot from 2009/2010 on are available on IMDb - but watch the movie first and then look at tech specs !!!!
i was able to tell the difference because of the ludicrous dynamic range of the Alexa, but they look way too similar... and with the Komodo having a $3000 off price drop?!
Same, that's what gave it away to me as well on the first shot. But they both look amazing.
uhhh-- yea, is this even a question? Red's have been used in movies for forever now.
The greatest part of all this is that these two cameras are really super close in IQ, which means we're all winners as camera ops❤❤❤
Definitely got it right.. wasn’t even close to me.. 🤷♂️. Cool video though 👍👍
Looks like they need to be graded similarly to compare. Straight out of camera isn’t good enough.
The Red had way more contrast so it’s hard to see any difference because they look like the same camera with different color grades.
And that A camera is now $4999. Crazy.
bro dont get a red hell naw get a fx6 10x better
@@gangfortnite6186 hehe 10x? If some one knows their tool and has a purpose in mind, their are many cams out there that could be better than either the sony or the red for them. Just depends on their budget and what they are actually shooting.
Curious to see your next test on all the other tilities
Not gonna lie, had to double check "tilities" lol! I'll be sure to make it happen.
I still cannot believe camera A is RED it looks very cinematic
Komodo is in hollywood long ago.
Eike, Tudo ou Nada (2022) Motion Picture | 2D | 6K Project | Color | 2.0:1 | 110 Minutes. ...
The Matrix Resurrections (2021) ...
The Pills (2021) ...
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. ...
Kompas (2024) ...
The Killer (2023) ...
Een Rivier om te Bevriezen (2023) ...
Silverstar (2022)
I got it right, the 1st clip showed the difference
Sigh. I say this to all artists who rely on specific electronic or other gear--musicians, filmmakers, etc... "A poor craftsman blames his tools".
Do you think one person in history walked out of a Hitchcock film complaining about the lack of a drone shot or not having whip-pans? The story, the song, the depth of thinking put into anything artistic--is where the value is, not the fact you shot it in 16-bit with 18 stops of whatever.
Fine. I was right then I was wrong.
Got it right
yep it was the last clip how it handle the the hot spot from the lamp
You can tell the difference in the colors because the arri has better depth and overall color reproduction
You managed to make them both look like Canon 600D footage. Congrats bro 🙏 The color grading is so overused, rookie and atrocious 🙏🙏🙏
did you use the phantom LUT for the komodo?
I did not… I’m about to learn more👀
@@RiverCody well you made a pretty good job there, bc i though you used it. i use it to grade my gemini footage and it looks like your komodo footage 🙌
Digital cameras always have a yellowish tone about it, which real film cameras never had. It's what made the look of Technicolor films so special.
OUT OF FOCUS :D i didnt get it right. I preffered the Red...
When I went into the edit and saw the entire talking head was just out… it hurt💀😂
A (RED) looked more cinematic and lush to me
Define "cinematic"
@@dp_zee subtlety don’t need definition. It’s an artistic feeling and it’s subjective
@@nagual2335facts
A red camera
B arri
Its ezi to me to see the difference
Just curious, have you ever tried Fujifilm GFX100 ii? I own a Komodo to, but I am thinking selling all my gear incl. XT-4 and buying the medium format instead 😊
I have been looking into it... The medium format is very enticing! I've been doing some research on my free time👀
@@RiverCody very curious now ;-)
The GFX is a great still camera. For motion images, you will love the quality if your camera is static however the rolling shutter on the GFX may frustrate you in instances that you pan or have certain types of motion in your imagery. I was highly disappointed in some footage I was really looking forward to reviewing on a project that I did not have the opportunity to reshoot. On the other hand for the cost of the GFX vs the Komodo may enable you to purchase perhaps a new gfx and a used black magic pocket to shoot video with when you want to shoot motion? hmm......
what glass where you using for the test? Great video as always. Cheers
I was using a mix of Meike Cines and Leica R’a🤟🏻
@@RiverCody lets go
RED Komodo is a Hollywood camera.
Are you shooting on the OG LF, or Mini LF?
OG LF🤟🏻
@@RiverCody ARRI has one in their CPO store kitted out for $29k and it’s go me intrigued… Especially seeing how well it performed with practicals only
@@G_Gued what!!?👀🤯
People need to understand one thing about all these comparisons
ARRI is that expensive, because the construction quality is very high, an ARRI is close to indestructible.
That's half the price.
Then you pay a lot for the service you get from ARRI, which is pretty brutally good, but none of this will affect the picture.
Whether blackmagic or red or arri, in the end it doesn't matter. None at all.
As long as you're not making a feature film and rely on service and maintenance and indestructibility, there's no reason, by God, to buy an ARRI.
Even red has now officially reduced its prices by 30% because blackmagic has become so strong.
Bro, you aren't in focus lol
Nikon is not a Hollywood camera!
I was waiting for it💀😂
A red b alaxa
Bmpcc 6k g2 vs komodo
That’s a good idea🙌🏻👀
I hate arri look now, because it's over used.