Did you go mirrorless recently? What did you get and why? Or maybe why you haven’t switched? I'm always looking for insight into my viewers to make better videos! Also, Pentax has IBIS in DSLRs!
I'm waiting on my EOS R6 Mark II to arrive. I'm sad to lose the extra range of the APS-C sensor on my EOS 80D but also excited to have the extra light gathering of a full frame sensor for my astrophotography. I'm really hoping that a 6-year and step up upgrade in camera bodies will help with all the basics in image quality. Not to mention the massive upgrade in autofocus capabilities.
I bought a Canon EOS R5 for the 46 megapixels & auto focus, eye tracking for wildlife images. I don't mind buying DSLR lenses which are cheaper than RF lenses.
I had been using a Nikon D500. I used it for both underwater photography and above water wildlife. My results were good, but not great. Almost certainly due to my lack of my personal skill rather than the camera being deficient. My underwater housing flooded and my D500 went to camera heaven way too early! I had to wait to save up enough money to get a new camera. This was the time period that mirrorless cameras were beginning to emerge as being a better alternative to DSLR cameras for the reasons you stated in this video. I was convinced by a RUclips channel on underwater camera equipment that despite the bad reviews, the Nikon Z7 was a great camera for underwater photography. It also helped that I already had lenses for the Nikon DSLR that could be adapted to the Z7. I ended up buying a used one and a new underwater housing; unfortunately, due to Covid-19 I haven't had a chance to use it underwater. Then the Canon R5 came out and suddenly I became extremely distraught because it was obviously a much better camera than my Nikon Z7 for underwater and wildlife photography. Oh well, live an learn I guess. I planned on buying the Canon R5; however, most of the reviews on RUclips for wildlife cameras were spouting the virtues of the Sony a1. I was also turned off by the fact that Canon does not allow third party lenses to be made for their R mount cameras. I had been using a point and shoot Sony RX 100 VI one inch sensor mirrorless camera both underwater and above water. I was getting awesome results, at least for me, with it and I saved up enough money to buy a used Sony a1 and a new Sony 200-600mm lens (for wildlife) and a Sigma 14-24mm art lens (for landscape). I'm planning on adding the Tamron 35-150mm lens as soon as I've saved up enough money. I have not yet had a chance to get out and use them, but hoping I will get my chance this summer. I have no immediate plans to get an underwater housing for the Sony a1, because I just can't afford to replace it in case the housing floods. I hope this wasn't too long and boring. Thank you again for all of your videos; I learn a lot from them!!! 😁
I have only used mirrorless since I started real estate photography/videography over 5 years ago. I’ve never had battery-life problems. On rare occasions (such as shooting 5 houses in a day) I may need to switch batteries. I also shoot birds and nature. Autofocus is incredible! I LOVE the mirrorless experience, but maybe I don’t know what I’m missing.
Your content is great, BUT I really came here to say your delivery style is superb! Very clear, well-paced, just the right amount of energy, inclusive of all the little necessary details...very professional!
I moved to micro four thirds in 2020. Getting older, I was getting tired carrying a full frame DSLR around all day. When I went on holiday, I tended to take a high-end compact rather than my DSLR because of this. And I was getting equally good results with my compact in camera club competitions, partly because of the e.v.f. showing the exposure before I took the photos. So I switched to Olympus, and I have not regretted the decision. There is a very good range of lenses available.
@@ShaunYCheng It really depends on what I’m doing. I’ve accumulated a collection of lenses, and I pick the lens or lenses that I think I will need for a particular outing. For general versatility without the need to swap lenses then I use the Olympus 14-150. This is not too large and bulky to carry around all day. If I want better image quality (and actually a nicer tactile experience), I use the Olympus 12-45 f/4, possibly supplemented by the Olympus 40-150 f/4. (It’s amazing how useful the 12 mm at the wide end is compared with the 14 mm of the other lens. In fact, when I’m using the 14-150 lens I often carry a wider lens as well, which until recently was the Olympus 12 mm f/2.) I have recently acquired the Olympus 8-25 f/4, which is a very nice lens if I think that I will need its very wide angle capability. If buildings are included in the scene and I’m using this at its wide end, then I’ve found that I need to make sure that I’m not tilting it either upwards or downwards, otherwise the very wide angle perspective looks weird. Activating the level indicators in the EVF is very important when using this lens. For wildlife I have the Olympus 300 mm f/4. I also have various other Olympus prime lenses, too, which I sometimes use. But I am selective about which lenses I carry on a particular day, to minimise the size of the kit I’m carrying.
I cannot imagine the time you put into these videos. Even with a production crew I could not imagine these videos being any better. Inserting example videos and photos from previous shoots and/or staging an example shoot to fill in, is just seamless. Your tone, clarity, cadence and depth of instruction is great. You videos are a go to for myself and my son as we enjoy shooting for fun. Thanks
As someone who has transitioned from using a 5d Mk4 to an R6 in the last year I heartily agree with the statement:”It won’t make you a better photographer but you will get more keepers, have better exposures, won’t disturb people in a silent theatre and deliver sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds with IBIS” All very true, honestly I think these advantages might be getting undersold here but overall once again Simon presents a nuanced and thorough perspective.
I had 7d and 70d, was considering to finally get a full frame but now I see that I should go for a mirrorless camera. Would it be too much to ask, since I assume you did a lot of research and haven't yet forgot all that you found out, which camera would you recommend as a slightly cheaper alternative to R6? Doesn't even have to be full frame, but great AF and cool EVF are a must.
“It won’t make you a better photographer but you will get more keepers, have better exposures, won’t disturb people in a silent theatre and deliver sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds with IBIS.” 🤔 More keepers, better exposures, won’t disturb people and sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds sounds like a better photographer.
@@glacialimpala If I may offer my opinion, if you can't afford the R6Mk2 or R6, then you have a choice of two wonderful cameras, the R8 and R7, both for about $1500. The R8 is full-frame, has great autofocus and shoots quite competent video. It's downsides are the lack of IBIS and a small battery. The R7, which essentially replaced the 7D and 90D, is an APS-C crop sensor, weather sealed, has IBIS, and also has a good autofocusing system. I have the R7, I used to shoot with the 7DMk2, and I love the lighter weight and smaller size of the R7. The R7 also uses Canon's standard LP-E6NH battery, so you'll get plenty of shots with it. I got mine with the 18-150 kit lens, this makes a very nice walk-around camera.
Simon - your videos are consistently excellent. You are so knwoledgable and present on the subject with incredible clarity. Thank you! One bit of feedback....you don't need to offer the "stay to the end..." during your introduction becuase anyone with any sense will almost certainly want to watch the whole video!
The main benefit of mirrorless cameras to me is, there are a lot of DSLR's on the second hand markets for those of us who don't have deep pockets. I just got back into photography and picked up a 1D X with 13k actuation's for less than $1200. And to me this is a belter of a camera. I'm sure I will have a mirrorless in the future, but I'm firmly in the DSLR camp. Great video by the way. 👍
Same here, I recently came back to photography, I upgraded from D90 to D500 because of the second hand market and used my old D90 for over 10 years. So the D500 will last as long if not ever more than the D90. So when the transitition will happen, the mirrorless will be less expensive ! 😀
Really good mirrorless cameras are still out of my budget. Still have many more important things to part my hard earned cash on like mortgage, car payments, student loans, food, retirement savings etc. Thousands on a hobby just doesn't make sense for me. With costs being prohibitive, I will have to relegate my free cash to continuing to add equipment in the used DSLR market. I can't afford to buy the flavor of the day, but its the images not the camera that is much more important to me now and a good DSLR is still more than capable in that department. For now I am content with just trying to make the best images I possibly can because I still have a long way to go. For now the D7200 for landscapes and the D500 for sports, and hopefully counting on myself for the creation of good images. If I hit the lottery, then maybe a Z8 or Z9 will become a reality.
One of the biggest advantages for mirrorless for me is not having to use the light meter and instead just having zebbra stripes for everexposed pixels. I shoot skiers and snowboaders. As the subject fills more of the frame the light meter will show things getting darker but the light is the same. I simply dial down until the zebras disappear and I have optimum exposure until the light changes.
Oh, I didn’t realize this so you don’t have to use a light meter with mirrorless? That makes it even more attractive because light meters are expensive and I don’t have one.
@@evelynvongizycki1017 I'm probably didn't understand your text correctly but, in that case, what do you mean light meters are expensive? It's literally in every DSLR already. That bar down the screen or OVF that say -2__-1__0__+1__+2. Anyway, in MRL you didn't need it at all because it's like your phone (phone camera is MRL). What you see it's what you get. How bright or dark you want your photo to look like you just adjust the exposure setting and see the result in real time.
Mirrorless all the way now, I can do so many different things or styles of photography now. Yes there is always tradeoffs but going mirrorless has opened up a ton of options for me personally. Don't get me wrong I used a crop sensor dslr for 12 years with a lot of success. Now I using a lot of vintage lenses on my mirrorless camera and I have found my love affair that first had with film.
While I am still using dslr and no plans to switch anytime in the near future I really enjoyed the comparison of the two styles of cameras. One thing I believe is noteworthy is that on a couple of brands of mirrorless cameras third party dslr lenses with a adapter will not function as you may be accustomed to.
@@btnhstillfire That's a cross-platform adapter. Those aren't always perfect but do come in handy. But at least Nikon F lenses will work really good on the Nikon Z mount.
I use EF lenses on my R5, and they work perfectly. If you're going across systems, you'll have less functionality. That's orthogonal to mirrorless vs DSLR
Well balanced and accurate video. Have both a D850 (D800, D500, D7200) and Z9. The Z9 has some very impressive features not in the D850. I use the Z9 for things in motion, like BIF or sports. For things not in motion, I prefer the D850, even the D7200. There is just something comforting about hearing the slap of the mirror. I will never part with my D850 or my D7200.
Ex D7000 shooter who now have a Z5. I really miss the D7000, and the ability to use classic lenses like the 50mm AF-D which like all AF-D lenses, does not autofocus on mirrorless. I also miss not having to worry about the battery as I have to with the Z5.
about battery life, some cameras can also be charged "on the fly" with an USB powerbank. If you are scared to be out of battery during the day, just carry a small powerbak in your backpack and plug the camera ! Great video, thanks ! (I'm looking to go mirrorless this year)
Literally the feeling and sound of a shutter is the reason why I prefer slr over mirrorless. I'm pretty simple lol. Other benefits are absolutely real but since the job can be done properly either way it comes down to stuff like personal preferences
This man is a wonderful communicator! Within the first 10 seconds of the video, I found myself fully drawn in and engaged with what he was saying. not often does that happen! thanks!!
Simon I've owned film SLR's then compact digital and finally a Sony mirrorless since 2019 and taken 157,000 photos in 50 years. Your videos are always professional and helpful. You put on a very good show. Thank you.
Why doesnt this channel get millions of subscribers? Such simplicity of language and understanding I think very few people might have. and Simon thanks for everything.
I love this channel but that intro music drives me crazy! I can't skip it either because I put his videos on while driving. I don't sub because I dread hearing that song randomly playing
I got into serious cameras about 7 years ago and as such I have never had a DSLR only mirrorless. I am so glad I didn't listen to everyone telling me to get a Canon or Nikon. I went with the innovativeness of Sony and really really happy with that decision.
Same thing. And I went with the "budget" non full frame too. The Sony A6300. For an amateur like me, it is the perfect everyday and learning platform. I would never have utilised the full power of the top end range. Still have it and use it today.
I still find it odd that so many will only consider Canon or Nikon when Sony has by far the largest line up of lenses, including a full complement of third-party lenses, and produce some of the best mirrorless cameras on the market. I suppose Sony doesn't have the legacy of Canon or Nikon, but it still surprises me that so many people don't consider Sony's offerings as 'proper' cameras (or even seem downright hostile to the brand) despite them being in the business for 20+ years.
Canon 70D owner here. First DSLR. Using it as a tool to learn the art and science of photography. Don't mind that it's old tech. Investing in quality glass which I can later adapt on my mirrorless body. Won't transition until I feel I've sufficiently honed my skills and at the same time, pinpointed the exact limitations of my gear, so that it's money well spent, in other words, not paying for extra bells and whistles that I won't actually use in the field.
I watched this video for the second time. what I admire you for, as well, is your generosity to transmit your knowledge and experience to your viewers. Besides, your style of speaking is great. Let me admit that I also learn English from your nice speaking. Thank you very much.
This is one of the best, straightforward and understandable explanation of the difference between mirrorless and DSLRs I've ever seen. I've been a photographer for years and have not quite made the leap to a full-frame mirrorless camera. However, I've often had to explain the difference to non-technical people. I, too, have experienced the struggle in moving an electronic viewfinder after using DSLRs and SLRs in film days for so long. But I think as more folks in a similar situation use cellphones cameras, they will become less averse to using the rear screen as they do with cellphones, or the electronic viewfinder.
As someone that enjoys taking sports photos of relatives and friends my first goal is to watch the game, second to hopefully get some great shots for the athletes to have forever. With an optical viewfinder I feel that I am still watching the game with my own eyes, but with an electronic viewfinder I am watching a live recording on a 1" display. Metaphorically speaking it's the difference between going to an NFL game and watching with binoculars versus watching the TV broadcast while standing in line for a hot dog.
made the jump to mirrorless from a Nikon D7200 and 200-500 to an OM-1 last month and the difference is night and day. Much faster AF, high fps is wonderful. I honestly love having an electronic viewfinder! No more accidently getting my ISO wrong and taking really dark shots. Might be a simple thing but having a flip-out back LCD is awesome too. And its SO LIGHT! I can handhold for hours without ruining my shoulders now. So glad I made the change finally. I still love my old DSLR but I'm never looking back.
@@relicthominoid There may even be an even better successor to the OM-1 by the time you upgrade! Your back will definitely thank you for it, it shaved off around 800-900g of weight for me and it's made a huge difference. I definitely recommend getting the 300mm f4 over the 100-400 lens though if you can stretch your budget. It's sharper and faster, and with a 1.4x TC it's an absolute beast. I initially got both but will be selling my 100-400 as I don't miss the zoom at all.
@@relicthominoid I have the oly combo , before I shot also 200-500 on d500 for a bit. While the semi-pro DSLR is the nicest thing to hold and operate, om1 is the more modern piece of tech. Faster, bird tracking helps, video is light years better, silent shutter, pro capture is a big deal, stabilisation, computational functions.in a still pretty customizable and comfortable body. Noise performance is imho not really worse , hard to compare, but I'm not disappointed. What u will notice sometimes imho is the difference in depth of field of the smaller sensor and slower lens combo, or the 12bit colors when pushing sliders in editor. But so will you feel the lighter weight. I haven't had a chance to shoot 300f4 but imho even if it's mildly better with 1.4tc, it's almost the same image (more difference will come from technique, post process flow) with prob the biggest benefit being better IS (depends what u shoot, if it moves a lot u don't care ) and quicker AF with om1(50fps) . However 100-400 can be paired with 1.4x too , with good results, while attempting to achieve the same with 300+2x is pushing all the limits, including ones ability to even locate the subject. At half the price and ability to zoom out occasionally. *Disclaimer I d still happily shoot DSLR, I just prefer Olympus for size and quiet shooting. DSLR reached the top and were abandoned for newer tech development. As a result we know exactly what performance to expect from them and they deliver 100%>. Tried and true. When I shot d500, the only out focus images were those where I failed. Mirrorless is lot more of a black box system doing its magic and us working with / around it. And hoping for it to improve in the future. The raw image quality hasn't improved either over the past decade.
I have been looking at getting a mirrorless camera for some time after watching your videos actually. I really enjoy your videos, whether it be watching them through the day, or listening to them while driving. Your videos are so clear that one can understand the full concept without having to see the video, and going back later to see the examples if needed. You are one of my main go to photography youtubers and have learned so much. Keep up with the phenomenal work!
I must say, I greatly appreciate your delivery. Sound like you're actually conversating instead of simply lecturing. Great examples honestly! (edit) This video needs to be what shows up when people ask Mirrorless vs. DSLR
I just moved from DSLR to mirrorless so this was a good review of the research I had done and what the salesperson was telling me as well. By the way, it was worth driving a few miles to a reliable camera store rather than ordering online. The salesperson was intuitive as to what would meet my needs and budget as an amateur hobbyist! Always love that you add illustrations that make sense.
I totally love my Canon. R7 and R6 while using both EF and RF lenses with and without adapters which literally doubles my lens inventory (full frame and crop frame). Thank you for the best mirrorless presentation I’ve seen yet. 10/10 Rating.
Hi Simon. You perfectly explained all the key points, this video should the #1 reference for people wondering if they would switch. For me, the R6/5 were game changing (Once I could afford one after my trusty 70D nearly drowned in the rain) and they definitely cured my initial fears for EVF, focus, battery life, .. Your bonus tip is pretty modest: while my 70D could go slightly above images 1000 per battery, on a day in a hide shooting mostly electronic, without image review and disabling "Continuous AF" I was able to get 12800 images on my R5 using only 2 batteries 😀
I am very patient and I can wait for the right moment or moments for a very long time, almost non-stop. I am delighted with dslr photo cameras. What a mirror does with a dslr camera, a mirrorless one can never do. Mirrorless has its advantages, but it's always good to have a dslr as well. At least for me dslr life is not over yet.
Are you claiming that if you use your dslr camera but use live view, the lack of the mirror would make a difference? Still never heard a genuine reason to use dslr over mirrorles other than just being contrarian for the sake of it.
@@jimbojumbo-os1np Yes. Live View uses Dual Pixel CMOS AF to analyze the differences in read-outs from the A and B sides of groups of pixels to detect focus
One of the best things I have found with mirrorless cameras is focus peaking using manual focus. I’ve used this with landscape, night, even bird photography (perched birds). In difficult spaces auto focus searches and finds the background or a small twig in the line of sight etc., thus setting focus manually I see exactly what plane I am focused at and has allowed me to get shots before my subject has moved on as I have happen frequently when shooting autofocus. I’ve gotten pretty quick at doing this but of course fast moving subjects require autofocus and subject tracking, and I love the eye tracking feature.
You bring up some very good points with using a mirror less camera. As a professional working photographer who’s already invested in digital equipment from analog I not going to be reinvesting in Mirror less where my clients won’t even know the difference! It’s about the photographer not the equipment!
An excellent comparison. Thanks. I am a landscape photographer and switched to a mirrorless system as my back could no longer deal with the weight of my DSLR backpack. Currently I'm on my third generation of mirrorless cameras and still prefer the DSLR optical viewfinder over the EVF. My main complaint is that I have a very hard time seeing the effect of a polarizer when using the EVF. When used with an optical viewfinder the effect is immediate and obvious but when used with an EVF I usually struggle to see what the filter is doing. I'm hoping the manufacturers will solve this issue soon as I use a polarizer frequently.
I just got my first mirrorless camera last week. I bought a Canon R10 body with no lenses, but I bought an adapter so that I could use all of the lenses I'd bought for my T3i. It's given me a new lease on life. The autofocus is insane on this body. I always kept autofocus off because I could move faster with my hands than the autofocus, but this new body's focus is accurate and constant. Like you said, it's not making me a better photographer, but I come away with more photos that I'm happy with than ever before.
Fantastic explanation Simon! My name is Partha and I watch your videos often from India. Your speech shows your experience of handling camera gears and makes viewers enjoy the content easily and happily. Awaiting many more such videos from you to be with all the technological advancements of the imaging equipment. Thank you.
This is a terrific introduction to mirrorless cameras. Thank you. BTW, I learned about your channel by watching Gavin Hardcastle's videos. : ) Love your chemistry with him and Amanda.
Coolest thing about mirrorless camera is the easy ability to use all kinds of lenses. You can get a whole lot of older lenses on the cheap and get some really good deals out there on some quality glass.
Great video. I love how balanced your advice is between mirrorless and DSLR instead of being biased towards one or the other. You also explain things with very clear and precise language and I notice how you try to use language that is more accessible to people rather than using big words that can make things harder to understand for some people.
He was definitely biased, lol. Literally the only downside he gave to mirrorless is the battery life, but then made sure to immediately follow up with how it's not really an issue. And how he points out how CIPA is inaccurate for mirrorless but doesn't mention that if you go by his recommendation to only compare CIPA ratings to other CIPA ratings, the CIPA rating for a DSLR like a 5D Mark IV is like twice that of the mirrorless, not just 5%. If it only looks at the worst case scenario for a mirrorless, it's also only looking at the worst case scenario for the DSLR. Also some advantages he mentions for mirrorless like the eye focus is available on DSLRs as well if you use live view. Same with the increased shutter speed. And there are other instances where he's clearly biased in his evaluations. But it's fine, everyone is free to have their opinions. I'm just pointing out that he wasn't at all unbiased in the video. There are plenty of real advantages to mirrorless, I'm not trying to put it down or anything. I totally get why a lot of people are switching to it. But just like to call a spade a spade...
@@TalkingHands308 Yeah fair, same. I prefer honesty too. I don't know what CIPA ratings are and have never seen effective autofocus on live view but then I've been shooting with Nikon SLRs for my whole photography journey rather than Canon. Thanks for the info.
I'm a relative newcomer to these mirrorless cameras. I started clicking a Canon AE1 back in the 90s. Now I'm feeling my way around a Sony Alpha 7mk2. I'm grateful for the information you provide as the instruction manual is in Chinese and Arabic. I'm super impressed with the clarity although I could only afford an APS-C Artisan 10mm manual lense. I look forward to better results with an FE lense so I can switch to full frame.
Simon ~ The timing of this presentation is impeccable. I had one foot on the boat, the other on the dock. I'm extremely grateful that you shared your views on Mirrorless and DSLR. That's exactly what I needed to hear to make an educated decision and add the mirrorless to my arsenal. Many thanks and keep them coming ~ the info you share is always really interesting.!.
I like the analog experience my DSLR gives me. Reminds me of the film days. If I want more "modern" experience, I use Live View. Even on my entry level Canon SL3, I get eye detection and dual pixel AF in Live View! Works great for portraits! My next camera will be either a 5D Mk4 or an R5 Mk2!
switched from canon 2000d to M100 to have a small form camera, and set the focus to manual with auto when on manual setting, no more problems with getting the subject properly focus as when you half press for composure you can also turn the ring to manual focus and get a zoom picture on touch screen to fine tune, also auto focus on the m100 is so much better than the 2000d, love the videos and picking up great tips
I've just started working some overtime on my job to save up for a newer camera. The first thing I thought about was "Should I invest in a mirrorless camera?" so when I saw your RUclips, Simon, I knew I had to get your input on mirrorless. Thank you for explaining so expertly all the differences and what to expect or what to look for. Price, of course, is the main factor (especially since I'm not a professional photographer) but at least now I'm much more well-informed about mirrorless vs DSLR. And it took you less than 15 minutes to explain it all! Loving your videos, sir!
And what Camera did you get? Im in the same Situation and dont know if i should buy a Canon R5/ R6 II or a Sony A9 (used). Im shooting 70% Wildlife and 30% Family and Kids. I also thought about the Nikon D850.
Thanks for this excellent summary. It is not hard to see that just as digital photography replaced film, mirrorless will take over from the venerable DSLR. You will know when this has happened when they are no longer referred to as mirrorless
I really appreciate your measured approach to everything in your videos. Too often, you see photographers claiming that what works best for them is "the rules" of photography while you look at how things work for a large variety of photographers and styles
Your photography content is the best I have found. Content rich, excellent pace, interesting subject matter, and clearly you invest a lot of time and effort both pre and post. Thank you !
I was given a Kodak z950 point and shoot as a gift; the lack of mirror clacking was an eye opener. Chose the DMC G7 just last year. No regrets. That camera came out in 2012 I think and it's amazing even today.
Great informative video as usual Simon. One thing I consider in this debate is that R&D is going 100% into mirrorless, and that DSLRs are dying out not being able to the tech that mirrorless is coming out with….
I transitioned to mirrorleds in 2020 and will not go back. The reason I was holding back was the optical vs electronic VF. With the last DSLR I had, I had to use reading glasses always to preview my images on the back LCD. It was such a pain. Then one day I was watching a RUclips video by Hudson Henry and he mentioned with mirrorless EVF you can preview before and after shooting. I went to a camera store and checked out and the EVF really blew me off. Now since I gotten used to it, I can't use the OVF. I like the fact that I can see the photo I am going to take right in the EVF and I always shoot manual. I don't need to take my reading glasses to preview or view photos on LCD screen, I can view and preview then on the EVF without my reading glasses. (There was a time I thought I had to give up photography because my eyesight was getting bad).
I have both, one full frame DSLR (for landscape) and a crop sensor camera of each( for wildlife.) While I like the mirrorless camera I tend to prefer having an optical viewfinder. This is pretty much a personal tastes though and I could get by just fine with EVFs. Still I wish companies weren't totally abandoning DSLRs because I feel the consumer should have the choice.
there are some mirrorless cameras with the OVF, for example Fujifilm, XPRO1, XPRO2 , XPRO3 . Obviously The OVF does not show anything through the lens. It functions as one on a rangefinder like Leica and is simply an optical window with frame lines and much better parallax correction.
If I remember correctly, lenses on Fujis partly obstruct the view through the OVF. Other mirrorless cameras have simulated OVFs, which are not identical to true OVFs but are still sometimes helpful on bright days with deep shadows.
Switched to Canon's R5 two years ago and sold my MK III when it became obvious I would not be going back. Adapter on my EF 11-24 produces superb images better than the MK III, and I'm slowly adding RF lenses because I'm continually impressed than Canon has decided to provide near-L--or L--level quality in a much smaller, lighter, less expensive package than they ever have before, without lessening the real value of the L Series. I still own my film cameras and sometimes--sometimes--use them. But digital is finally getting to the point I might have to admit film--and all the chemicals and enviro-waste that comes with the genre--is truly being replaced. Cameras like the R5 prove it. Excellent video, thank you.
Yes, I converted to Mirrorless back in 2015 with Sony's a7ii and 2016 with the a7S-ii. It was a risky move back then as Mirrorless was still new and behind DSLR. But today, its light years ahead of DSLR now and is still improving. There are so much more benefits to using Mirrorless over DSLR and it actually does make me a better photographer. I can correct exposure better without needing to depend on the meter alone. I use Eye-AF for portraits so I don't have always change focus points like i do with a DSLR. I use E-shutter for weddings so that I can walk around like a ninja staying silent. And so much more that I can't list them all. I'm glad Sony didn't abandoned the Mirrorless system and invested in it heavily thus revolutionizing the camera industry today. Had they not done it, I would have been out thousands of dollars and Canon and Nikon would still be making DSLR to this day. Heck, it was Sony that forced them to wake up and start researching Mirrorless after Sony took the #1 spot. Today, i recommend everyone to go Mirrorless because it offers you so much more for your buck. And just by removing that mirror, it unlocked so much more potential to cameras today.
At the end of the day, mirrorless is just another marketing blockbuster... if mirrorless is light years ahead, then why top brands keep DSLR only for their high-end lineups?.. Just like it happens in other areas, like CD's or Analog Synths, won't be too long before people start looking for those good old DSLR's again... Film Photography is making a comeback... does that rings any bells?..
@@Mud_AleX Is this all you got? And which top brands keeping DSLR only for their high-end lineups? Canon move onto their R3 and future R1. Nikon produced their Z8 and Z9. Sony with their A9-iii and A1. Oh yea, all 3 are flagship mirrorless cameras. And film photography hasn't made any comeback at all. Just you spitting out nonsense. Just another DSLR user trying to justify their reasons to holding onto their DSLR because they can't handle the truth about Mirrorless.
You have provided an engaging and informative overview of the differences between the two technologies. Mirrorless is starting to look like the future of photography. I recently upgraded from my trusty Canon 60D which is an APS-C camera to a near mint 5D Mark III which is full frame. This is going to be a wonderful journey of exploration for me as I get to grips with my newish camera but I can see me falling for the charms of mirrorless cameras once the price of these cameras comes down a bit and there is a more varied and affordable selection of lenses for this format. You produce very watchable content, I have to say.
I also use a 60D and have considered moving to to a 5d Mark III or IV. As an amature cost is big issue for me and while I would love to move to mirrorless, a 5d is already more camera than I can utilize.
This was the singularly most informative video on the differences between DSLR and mirrorless I have seen. I have been planning on switching to mirrorless without this much clarity in my decision. The switch is going to be expensive, but I am more confident in moving forward. Thanks.
Thanks for providing such excellent videos. I've been an amateur photographer for roughly 50 years, and have learned more from you in a week than I have during that time.
This channel is incredible! Simply love the patience and dedication to explain when providing facts and specs. Also, the way you talk, articulate, and accent helps a lot for understanding.
I switched to Sony after being a Nikon user for over 30 years. I can say the the EVF looks is my biggest pet peeve ; other than that I love the mirrorless system and that I don't have to do lens calibration like with my Nikon D850
Excellent Simon. I learned the hard way to not be an early adopter when transitioning to the new technology. Despite one's emotions, getting 2nd or 3rd generation gear that the initial limitations of that new tech are fixed is a much better way to advance to that next step. I may be showing my age but starting out with film equipment, then digital SLR's, and now mirrorless forces one to really work on their photography skills as they learn about the new cameras and I truly believe that journey made me a better hobbyist photographer.
Simon, I am a professional wedding photographer, and one major problem with the mirrorless cameras is almost never mentioned; flash photography. In all of the comments to this video I only found only one that mentioned issues with flash photography, but the problem is far worse than that comment indicated. In addition, I believe this problem is common across all brands of mirrorless cameras. My choice of Brands is Nikon, and I use a D810 for my main wedding camera. However, I purchased a Nikon Z6ii mirrorless to add as a second camera, and it gave me very poor results at a couple of weddings. People who have not photographed weddings may not even realize that there is a lot of very very low light action during weddings, especially the typical reception. They turn the lights way down for key moments like the father/daughter dance, and dancing in dark in general, and the bouquet toss. With a DSLR, the flash emits a strong deep red focusing light briefly before the shutter is released that allows the camera to instantly focus in complete darkness followed by the shutter release. I normally set the the shutter speed at around 1/100 and the aperture at f/5.6 to prevent ambient light from adding much to the exposure which will smear the image. The TTL flash automatically sets the exact amount of light needed for a perfect exposure, and the duration of the flash is 1/1000 or more which stops all action, and every image is crystal sharp. Of course you can lower the shutter speed to whatever you want to bring the ambient in the background up a little if you want to. You just don't want the ambient light to affect the exposure of the subject. I also never use the lens wide open, because the depth of field is too shallow. So, I tried my new Nikon Z6ii mirrorless camera at several low ambient events using flash, and immediately found that the red focusing lamp will not come on in the flash. This caused none of my flash shots to be in focus. I've talked with other wedding pros who do use the new mirrorless cameras, and they mention shooting with the lens at f/2.8 and ISO 12000 or higher using continuous focus and shutter release priority to get a few flash shots to come out sharp, but the keeper rate is extremely low. The quality of those images is also very poor. The Z6ii will focus in pretty low light, but not fast enough, even at ISO 12,000, and f/2.8, to get in focus before the flash fires. So, for now, I use my Z6ii for birds in flight, wildlife, and all daylight subjects, but it stays at home for weddings or other events with very low level ambient.
To be fair you pretty much got the worst big-brand mirrorless out there. My sony has no problem focusing in ambient since it can will turn off "live preview effect" and will focus just fine.
Yes. My friend has z6ii and has the same issue. He uses the sb series flash and it does nit fire sometimes. Also the colors are bit strange like too digital. His d750 gives good results. Only advantage is the focus is bit better and stabilization helps in low light.
i was just debating on buying a newer camera coming from a DSLR and this explains about all i needed to know ! probably will be getting a newer mirrorless camera!
thank you for the video, my biggest issue when I first transitioned to mirrorless was viewfinder lag (in electronic viewfinder's) when shooting fast-moving nature or sports. This is no longer a problem with the newer cameras. I switched from the 5D mark 3 to the Sony a7R3 and did not notice any issues with battery life, in fact I would get more shots with the mirrorless. Also I am unaware of new DSLR lenses being developed, by the top manufacturers.
One thing to note. If you want to take advantage of the camera's best settings, RAW or log curves are the most commonly used with mirrorless (some rare DSLRs do have it). However, this is way harder to use vs a DSLR's natural color profile. And having those good colors out of the gate is why DSLRs are very easy and great to work with. It is not bad to want simplicity when it comes to this, given the learning curve for RAW and Log are much higher. You can process far more images from a DSLR than working with Log/RAW files. And if you want to get a bunch of photos out where you are taking advantage of each camera's best features, I wouldn't recommend ever doing mirrorless, especially if you are photography oriented. However, if you like to be a bit more picky with all your shots and a level of creative control that almost feels illegal, mirrorless absolutely is worth considering for your workflow, especially if you like color management. Since so many have moved to mirrorless, there are many amazing DSLRs you can pick up for hardly anything that used to cost thousands. You can find a Canon 5D Mark III for under $700, which is a beast at photos. There's even one at KEH for a bargain deal that's $400. There aren't many contenders to DSLRs on the used market, especially if you want full frame. Sony's discontinued full frame cameras are starting to be at that reasonable price point, so if you aren't needing the color management, pick up a used DSLR
I just discovered Simon d'Entremont's videos. I'm so glad you get right to the point, stay on topic, and your information is spot-on and useful. Subscribed immediately!
You kind of touched on it but weight is a massive advantage to mirrorless. Even with a larger mirrorless (eg Fuji XT series) it so much better on your back/arms when using it for any length of time. For me it was a key point in switching earlier. I am glad to see the technology constantly improving and just have to manage GAS 🙂
Probably the best unbiased comparison between the two types of cameras that I have seen on RUclips. Very helpful and insightful for people like me who are still trying to decide to switch to mirrorless!! Thank you!
One thing to consider. Age. Starting from 40 your sight may start to degrade. For years and years I preferred the real world look through the optical viewfinder. I switched to mirrorless more than a decade ago because I was bored of the size of DSLR. But one thing lately convinced me I was right: on my Fuji X-Pro 3 I can use the hybrid viewfinder either optical (OVF) or electronic (EVF), and boy I've been using the EVF 90% of the time, it a real blast, it's clear, I can see everything at high definition, my exposure is live and I don't struggle focusing manually like I do with OVF, my sight isn't what it was and wearing glasses is easier with EVF even if it's not perfect + I don't have to chimp on the rear screen as the images I take get displayed for ½ second which is enough to know if everything went right.
I think that constant look in the viewfinder damaged my left eye and i also get dizzy when i look away, i'm not using viewfinder almost at all for years now
Once again, an awesome video! Your blending in of subject, illustrated video of the inside of a camera, and other things makes your videos easy to follow and understand. Your attention to detail and the flow of your presentation makes your videos a must see. Thank you!
Get recommended this video. I open it and the first things I notice is how damn good this video itself looks and Simon has crazy good delivery. Respect!
I agree... I upgraded to a r10 from a rebel t100. I went back to practice with my rebel this past weekend, and the pictures were much better than i thought they would have turned out. I dont think it was the camera, it was the fact that I've been practicing more, and now that i have a camera that can take high-speed photos, I'm more motivated to practice.
A point not mentioned here about the EVF: I've met people who don't like the feel of them specifically because they always move at a slight delay, so it can feel off. This is probably less prevalent on more modern and high-end options, but worth looking for in reviews.
EVF have been fixed greatly and is now better than OVF. 60 hz to 120 hz refresh rate is crazy. Then add a 9 million dot OLED display, you got yourself an EVF that no OVF in the world can do better anymore
As a wildlife photographer I am still shooting with 2 D500 DSLR's, I do not like the lag in the EVF on the Z9/Z8 and until the overall image improves and the lag is no longer noticeable I can't see myself moving in a hurry. Informative video however with many relevant points.
@@harryvuemedia5106never shot Sony so it's not an option, I also have thousands of pounds invested in Nikon F glass and my work is constantly published by the British trust for Ornithology so there's nothing wrong with my images or equipment!
@@harryvuemedia5106 I don't agree with the notion that EVFs have surpassed OVFs. There is still some lag and the ones I've used occasionally stuttered, e.g., when the camera was focusing. It is possible that this has been ironed out recently but an EVF will always show you some white balance choice. Some will argue this is a plus (WYSIWYG) but I say it is a distraction because at the time of composing the image, I'm not thinking about final presentation choices (like the best white balance, for instance). N.B., higher frame rates are very power hungry and deplete a camera's battery even quicker than a mirrorless camera already does per default. Also, many EVFs slow down the frame rate when the camera gets busy.
I've been mirrorless for several years now with my Olympus OM bodies but... I still love my Canon 5d Mk 2 and the 'L' lenses. That said, the Olympus 'Pro' lenses are superb. Tack sharp and never need any sharpening in 'post'. (BTW... with the weight consideration in mind, I just turned 76 - and I'm no 'health freak'!! 😉 )
The Olympus S510 was my very first DSLR and I loved the four-thirds experience. I switched to Nikon and let my daughters learn on the Olympus. 14 years later, it’s still going.
Budget dictates that I must wait a while longer before making the switch from DSLR to Mirrorless - I am having a great time with my 5D Mark IV and (still) with my 7D. The benefits you've described are appealing - but too costly (for me) at present. Just recently getting more into Landscape and Wildlife photography/videography. I think I'm better off to further develop my skills in these arenas before purchasing more expensive equipment. Comforting to know that I can adapt my DSLR lenses when I can go mirrorless. I'll continue watching for product reviews to narrow down the list of "candidates" from which to make my selection. Also, expecting prices to normalize (lower?) as competition expands. In the meantime, I'll continue to thoroughly enjoy your videos, Simon. My favorite channel. With love from Atlanta.
You are right to develop skills in those areas. That is something that many, especially new photographers, do not want to take the time to do. They immediately go buy the latest Sony mirrorless, so they don't have to learn the basics...but they can click a button and slap on editing presets with the best of them.😅 Tada!
One issue I’ve been alerted to by lighting operator at night club, be extra careful if you are photographing when lasers are operating . They have had photographers ruin two mirrorkess cameras due to sensor damage. I don’t know the brand or models unfortunately, but I presume that the lack of mirror leaves the sensor physically exposed , and even if inactive a high power laser can damage pixels. Of course DSLRs can also be damaged when shooting, but it seems to be a greater risk with mirrorless. For now I’m happy with my DSLR , I was considering changing at next upgrade, but will need to consider this issue as well.
I switched from a bulky Nikon D700 to a handy Sony A7 almost ten years ago and I never looked back. Sure the battery life was quite a bit worse, but apart from that the smaller mirrorless camera is better for me in every single way. Now I'm rocking a A7iii and is even more happy :)
As a long long time DSLR camera user (Pentax film / Canon Rebel). So I really appreciate your videos, especially helping me figure out which direction to go next.
Excellent video - really good information and points, really well delivered. I’m a convert to mirror less and enjoy the form factor over DSLRs. Mirrorless lenses don’t have to worry about the additional issues of back focusing inherent with SLRs, meaning less compromises - or additional complexity/weight/size with your DSLR. However, when I go out shooting for fun these days, I typically use my 84 year old film rangefinder!
Yeah, I would have kept my Leica M7 if I could ever find a decent local processing lab -- but those days are gone forever. I do regret selling all my Leica lenses because I've learned that Fujifilm offers a M-lens adapter. Oh well . . .
As you stated in the video, the only problem I’ve found with having a mirrorless as my first camera is that the lenses are really expensive and that there are not as many options on the used market
I can only speak for Canon, but the adopted EF lenses work better on RF cameras than they did on EF cameras. I would only use a cannon adapter, but you really only need one $100 adapter. And that applies to Sigma EF lenses as well. I have not tried any other brands but I expect it would be the same.
You do know Rokinon, Sigma and Tamron makes great 3rd party lenses for Nikon and Sony right? It's only Canon that doesn't allow 3rd party RF lenses right now
From the videos I've seen on this subject so far, this is the most informative and to the point explanation of how the two types of cameras compare to each other, along with their strengths and weaknesses.
I got my Canon 750D stolen in 2022 so at the start of 2023 I got the Canon R50 just as it came out and I am extremely happy with it. It is better lighter and I still use 18-400 previous gen lens with an Adapter. And if I want to have an extremely light indoors camera I just put that little new gen lens on and I got a tiny cam on me that has the Abilities of a full on DSLR. The focusing features are amazing on the R50 really happy with it.
That last bit about battery life was satisfying to hear. I’ve been shooting Fuji cameras since 2015 and since the beginning I’ve heard people complain about the battery life of Fuji cameras, but I’ve never had any issues myself. I almost never had to switch batteries while out shooting. I think it helps that Fuji cameras have the on/off button around the shutter and I turn it off when I’m done shooting a subject. Its such a quick and easy thing to do, so why not right? I might be wrong, but I get the feeling that a lot of people just keep their cameras turned on al the time while outside, maybe relying on the sleep mode, but still they have it turned on for more minutes than they need.
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Did you go mirrorless recently? What did you get and why? Or maybe why you haven’t switched? I'm always looking for insight into my viewers to make better videos! Also, Pentax has IBIS in DSLRs!
I'm waiting on my EOS R6 Mark II to arrive. I'm sad to lose the extra range of the APS-C sensor on my EOS 80D but also excited to have the extra light gathering of a full frame sensor for my astrophotography. I'm really hoping that a 6-year and step up upgrade in camera bodies will help with all the basics in image quality. Not to mention the massive upgrade in autofocus capabilities.
I bought a Canon EOS R5 for the 46 megapixels & auto focus, eye tracking for wildlife images. I don't mind buying DSLR lenses which are cheaper than RF lenses.
Not yet - waiting for Nikon to get their thumb out... :) D4s and D800 is still being used here.
I’m on mirrorless for 10 years, starting with the Panasonic G3, then the G70 and now the G9.
I had been using a Nikon D500. I used it for both underwater photography and above water wildlife. My results were good, but not great. Almost certainly due to my lack of my personal skill rather than the camera being deficient. My underwater housing flooded and my D500 went to camera heaven way too early! I had to wait to save up enough money to get a new camera. This was the time period that mirrorless cameras were beginning to emerge as being a better alternative to DSLR cameras for the reasons you stated in this video. I was convinced by a RUclips channel on underwater camera equipment that despite the bad reviews, the Nikon Z7 was a great camera for underwater photography. It also helped that I already had lenses for the Nikon DSLR that could be adapted to the Z7. I ended up buying a used one and a new underwater housing; unfortunately, due to Covid-19 I haven't had a chance to use it underwater. Then the Canon R5 came out and suddenly I became extremely distraught because it was obviously a much better camera than my Nikon Z7 for underwater and wildlife photography. Oh well, live an learn I guess. I planned on buying the Canon R5; however, most of the reviews on RUclips for wildlife cameras were spouting the virtues of the Sony a1. I was also turned off by the fact that Canon does not allow third party lenses to be made for their R mount cameras. I had been using a point and shoot Sony RX 100 VI one inch sensor mirrorless camera both underwater and above water. I was getting awesome results, at least for me, with it and I saved up enough money to buy a used Sony a1 and a new Sony 200-600mm lens (for wildlife) and a Sigma 14-24mm art lens (for landscape). I'm planning on adding the Tamron 35-150mm lens as soon as I've saved up enough money. I have not yet had a chance to get out and use them, but hoping I will get my chance this summer. I have no immediate plans to get an underwater housing for the Sony a1, because I just can't afford to replace it in case the housing floods. I hope this wasn't too long and boring. Thank you again for all of your videos; I learn a lot from them!!! 😁
The duck photo is absolutely breathtaking
I love that you can see daylight peeping through the other side of the duck's nostril
Yeah , looks pretty good😅😅,mother nature have great models😅
Everything we DSLR users needed to know about mirrorless. All in less than 15 minutes. Straight to point and no bias, as usual. Thanks Simon!
Yes, but likely to cost me some serious cash as now I really want to get a mirrorless system. 😉
@@DonBernhardyou won’t regret it!! I switched and it’s bloody marvellous! 😎
@@DonBernhard Depending on which system you are transferring from, you could get an adapter to use your old lenses.
@@DonBernhardsame. A little over $2000 for a z6ii with the lens.
A huge jump up from my little $400 beginners Nikon DSLR.
I have only used mirrorless since I started real estate photography/videography over 5 years ago. I’ve never had battery-life problems. On rare occasions (such as shooting 5 houses in a day) I may need to switch batteries. I also shoot birds and nature. Autofocus is incredible! I LOVE the mirrorless experience, but maybe I don’t know what I’m missing.
Your content is great, BUT I really came here to say your delivery style is superb! Very clear, well-paced, just the right amount of energy, inclusive of all the little necessary details...very professional!
Simon, you could be a great TV newscaster in Nova Scotia.
I moved to micro four thirds in 2020.
Getting older, I was getting tired carrying a full frame DSLR around all day. When I went on holiday, I tended to take a high-end compact rather than my DSLR because of this. And I was getting equally good results with my compact in camera club competitions, partly because of the e.v.f. showing the exposure before I took the photos.
So I switched to Olympus, and I have not regretted the decision. There is a very good range of lenses available.
What lenses do you use for Olympus?
@@ShaunYCheng It really depends on what I’m doing. I’ve accumulated a collection of lenses, and I pick the lens or lenses that I think I will need for a particular outing.
For general versatility without the need to swap lenses then I use the Olympus 14-150. This is not too large and bulky to carry around all day.
If I want better image quality (and actually a nicer tactile experience), I use the Olympus 12-45 f/4, possibly supplemented by the Olympus 40-150 f/4. (It’s amazing how useful the 12 mm at the wide end is compared with the 14 mm of the other lens. In fact, when I’m using the 14-150 lens I often carry a wider lens as well, which until recently was the Olympus 12 mm f/2.)
I have recently acquired the Olympus 8-25 f/4, which is a very nice lens if I think that I will need its very wide angle capability. If buildings are included in the scene and I’m using this at its wide end, then I’ve found that I need to make sure that I’m not tilting it either upwards or downwards, otherwise the very wide angle perspective looks weird. Activating the level indicators in the EVF is very important when using this lens.
For wildlife I have the Olympus 300 mm f/4.
I also have various other Olympus prime lenses, too, which I sometimes use.
But I am selective about which lenses I carry on a particular day, to minimise the size of the kit I’m carrying.
Cool. I have heard 300 f4 is legendary level. But it’s a little unaffordable for me.
I wish OM system will release some new lenses. It’s been a while.
I cannot imagine the time you put into these videos. Even with a production crew I could not imagine these videos being any better. Inserting example videos and photos from previous shoots and/or staging an example shoot to fill in, is just seamless. Your tone, clarity, cadence and depth of instruction is great. You videos are a go to for myself and my son as we enjoy shooting for fun. Thanks
As someone who has transitioned from using a 5d Mk4 to an R6 in the last year I heartily agree with the statement:”It won’t make you a better photographer but you will get more keepers, have better exposures, won’t disturb people in a silent theatre and deliver sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds with IBIS”
All very true, honestly I think these advantages might be getting undersold here but overall once again Simon presents a nuanced and thorough perspective.
I had 7d and 70d, was considering to finally get a full frame but now I see that I should go for a mirrorless camera. Would it be too much to ask, since I assume you did a lot of research and haven't yet forgot all that you found out, which camera would you recommend as a slightly cheaper alternative to R6? Doesn't even have to be full frame, but great AF and cool EVF are a must.
“It won’t make you a better photographer but you will get more keepers, have better exposures, won’t disturb people in a silent theatre and deliver sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds with IBIS.”
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More keepers, better exposures, won’t disturb people and sharper pictures at lower shutter speeds sounds like a better photographer.
Can you remember the menu? Bet you can't. Its like flying a plane without the survival book.
@@glacialimpala If I may offer my opinion, if you can't afford the R6Mk2 or R6, then you have a choice of two wonderful cameras, the R8 and R7, both for about $1500. The R8 is full-frame, has great autofocus and shoots quite competent video. It's downsides are the lack of IBIS and a small battery. The R7, which essentially replaced the 7D and 90D, is an APS-C crop sensor, weather sealed, has IBIS, and also has a good autofocusing system. I have the R7, I used to shoot with the 7DMk2, and I love the lighter weight and smaller size of the R7. The R7 also uses Canon's standard LP-E6NH battery, so you'll get plenty of shots with it. I got mine with the 18-150 kit lens, this makes a very nice walk-around camera.
@@glacialimpala The Canon R7 has a very good AF but the EVF is not that high definition from what I have read
Simon - your videos are consistently excellent. You are so knwoledgable and present on the subject with incredible clarity. Thank you! One bit of feedback....you don't need to offer the "stay to the end..." during your introduction becuase anyone with any sense will almost certainly want to watch the whole video!
Wow, thank you!
Simon, what he said 100% :)
Agree!
This are easy subjects, almost universal knowledge by now, not even sure why i watched
@@cristibaluta an expert at craft, and a good communicator are two different things. Simon has both.
I love the DSLR kachunk shutter, satisfying!!
I know, right?😊
@@elizabethnelson321if i ever become a motorsport photography ,
The best camera is the one in your hand that you use. Excellent point.
Same with a firearm.
This is the cleanest highest quality smoothest video I have ever watched on RUclips ❤
Wow, thanks!
The main benefit of mirrorless cameras to me is, there are a lot of DSLR's on the second hand markets for those of us who don't have deep pockets. I just got back into photography and picked up a 1D X with 13k actuation's for less than $1200. And to me this is a belter of a camera. I'm sure I will have a mirrorless in the future, but I'm firmly in the DSLR camp. Great video by the way. 👍
Same here, I recently came back to photography, I upgraded from D90 to D500 because of the second hand market and used my old D90 for over 10 years. So the D500 will last as long if not ever more than the D90. So when the transitition will happen, the mirrorless will be less expensive ! 😀
@@KooriMoonrise D500 is a great camera - probably the best crop sensor DSLR made
Those old sensors are junk compared to modern sensors.
Those full frame lenses are dropping in price too.
Really good mirrorless cameras are still out of my budget. Still have many more important things to part my hard earned cash on like mortgage, car payments, student loans, food, retirement savings etc. Thousands on a hobby just doesn't make sense for me. With costs being prohibitive, I will have to relegate my free cash to continuing to add equipment in the used DSLR market. I can't afford to buy the flavor of the day, but its the images not the camera that is much more important to me now and a good DSLR is still more than capable in that department. For now I am content with just trying to make the best images I possibly can because I still have a long way to go. For now the D7200 for landscapes and the D500 for sports, and hopefully counting on myself for the creation of good images. If I hit the lottery, then maybe a Z8 or Z9 will become a reality.
“The odds of seeing a bald eagle cruising through your living room is very, very low.” :). Too true!
lol
But never 0%
So, you're saying there is a chance!
In Seattle, it's possible to see a bald eagle fly by our windows!
@@peterw903 yes, I'm down in the Salem area & we see them from time to time on the Willamette.
As a pro photographer who uses both types, it is a refreshing change to see a clear presentation that isn't pushing a particular biased viewpoint.
One of the biggest advantages for mirrorless for me is not having to use the light meter and instead just having zebbra stripes for everexposed pixels. I shoot skiers and snowboaders. As the subject fills more of the frame the light meter will show things getting darker but the light is the same. I simply dial down until the zebras disappear and I have optimum exposure until the light changes.
Oh, I didn’t realize this so you don’t have to use a light meter with mirrorless? That makes it even more attractive because light meters are expensive and I don’t have one.
@@evelynvongizycki1017 I'm probably didn't understand your text correctly but, in that case, what do you mean light meters are expensive? It's literally in every DSLR already. That bar down the screen or OVF that say -2__-1__0__+1__+2.
Anyway, in MRL you didn't need it at all because it's like your phone (phone camera is MRL). What you see it's what you get. How bright or dark you want your photo to look like you just adjust the exposure setting and see the result in real time.
My 2008 XS Canon shows the histogram in real time with the live view mode on. What kind of cameras have you been using??????🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@eliazar98188mirrorless
@@eliazar98188 I have only been using my phone for years now and I finally just got a mirrorless camera last week
Mirrorless all the way now, I can do so many different things or styles of photography now. Yes there is always tradeoffs but going mirrorless has opened up a ton of options for me personally. Don't get me wrong I used a crop sensor dslr for 12 years with a lot of success. Now I using a lot of vintage lenses on my mirrorless camera and I have found my love affair that first had with film.
@@chadparsons1972😂
@@chadparsons1972why limit yourself like that
The active histogram in the EVF tipped the scales for me. No more poorly exposed pictures. A real game changer!
Agree!
I set up the EV control on the wheel on the back of my R5. I watch the histograms in the EVF and spin the wheel with my thumb accordingly.
While I am still using dslr and no plans to switch anytime in the near future I really enjoyed the comparison of the two styles of cameras. One thing I believe is noteworthy is that on a couple of brands of mirrorless cameras third party dslr lenses with a adapter will not function as you may be accustomed to.
Ya you lose aperture control. I use a canon 300mm lens on my Lumix. I cant change apt but I can still get ranged shots in good lighting.
@@btnhstillfire That's a cross-platform adapter. Those aren't always perfect but do come in handy. But at least Nikon F lenses will work really good on the Nikon Z mount.
I use EF lenses on my R5, and they work perfectly. If you're going across systems, you'll have less functionality. That's orthogonal to mirrorless vs DSLR
Well balanced and accurate video. Have both a D850 (D800, D500, D7200) and Z9. The Z9 has some very impressive features not in the D850. I use the Z9 for things in motion, like BIF or sports. For things not in motion, I prefer the D850, even the D7200. There is just something comforting about hearing the slap of the mirror. I will never part with my D850 or my D7200.
D7200 here too and it still works perfectly for me. Stopped buying new bodies every 4-5 years and concentrate more on lenses.
Ex D7000 shooter who now have a Z5. I really miss the D7000, and the ability to use classic lenses like the 50mm AF-D which like all AF-D lenses, does not autofocus on mirrorless. I also miss not having to worry about the battery as I have to with the Z5.
Man you reply to so many comments, even new ones even though the video is months and months old, huge respect
Welcome! Gotta treat people right who take the time to engage!
about battery life, some cameras can also be charged "on the fly" with an USB powerbank. If you are scared to be out of battery during the day, just carry a small powerbak in your backpack and plug the camera !
Great video, thanks ! (I'm looking to go mirrorless this year)
Literally the feeling and sound of a shutter is the reason why I prefer slr over mirrorless. I'm pretty simple lol.
Other benefits are absolutely real but since the job can be done properly either way it comes down to stuff like personal preferences
Mirrorless cameras have shutters
@@everope it's not physical though that's my point.
The actual flipping of the mirror is what makes it feel/sound like a DSLR
This man is a wonderful communicator! Within the first 10 seconds of the video, I found myself fully drawn in and engaged with what he was saying. not often does that happen! thanks!!
Simon I've owned film SLR's then compact digital and finally a Sony mirrorless since 2019 and taken 157,000 photos in 50 years. Your videos are always professional and helpful. You put on a very good show. Thank you.
Why doesnt this channel get millions of subscribers? Such simplicity of language and understanding I think very few people might have. and Simon thanks for everything.
I’m in in less that a year…we may get there some day!
I love this channel but that intro music drives me crazy! I can't skip it either because I put his videos on while driving. I don't sub because I dread hearing that song randomly playing
I got into serious cameras about 7 years ago and as such I have never had a DSLR only mirrorless. I am so glad I didn't listen to everyone telling me to get a Canon or Nikon. I went with the innovativeness of Sony and really really happy with that decision.
Same thing. And I went with the "budget" non full frame too. The Sony A6300. For an amateur like me, it is the perfect everyday and learning platform. I would never have utilised the full power of the top end range. Still have it and use it today.
I still find it odd that so many will only consider Canon or Nikon when Sony has by far the largest line up of lenses, including a full complement of third-party lenses, and produce some of the best mirrorless cameras on the market. I suppose Sony doesn't have the legacy of Canon or Nikon, but it still surprises me that so many people don't consider Sony's offerings as 'proper' cameras (or even seem downright hostile to the brand) despite them being in the business for 20+ years.
Canon 70D owner here. First DSLR. Using it as a tool to learn the art and science of photography. Don't mind that it's old tech. Investing in quality glass which I can later adapt on my mirrorless body. Won't transition until I feel I've sufficiently honed my skills and at the same time, pinpointed the exact limitations of my gear, so that it's money well spent, in other words, not paying for extra bells and whistles that I won't actually use in the field.
Same but 200D 😊
I watched this video for the second time. what I admire you for, as well, is your generosity to transmit your knowledge and experience to your viewers. Besides, your style of speaking is great. Let me admit that I also learn English from your nice speaking. Thank you very much.
I've googled the difference between the two types of cameras and this has BY FAR been the most informative! Thank you for your time and video!
This is one of the best, straightforward and understandable explanation of the difference between mirrorless and DSLRs I've ever seen. I've been a photographer for years and have not quite made the leap to a full-frame mirrorless camera. However, I've often had to explain the difference to non-technical people. I, too, have experienced the struggle in moving an electronic viewfinder after using DSLRs and SLRs in film days for so long. But I think as more folks in a similar situation use cellphones cameras, they will become less averse to using the rear screen as they do with cellphones, or the electronic viewfinder.
As someone that enjoys taking sports photos of relatives and friends my first goal is to watch the game, second to hopefully get some great shots for the athletes to have forever. With an optical viewfinder I feel that I am still watching the game with my own eyes, but with an electronic viewfinder I am watching a live recording on a 1" display.
Metaphorically speaking it's the difference between going to an NFL game and watching with binoculars versus watching the TV broadcast while standing in line for a hot dog.
made the jump to mirrorless from a Nikon D7200 and 200-500 to an OM-1 last month and the difference is night and day. Much faster AF, high fps is wonderful. I honestly love having an electronic viewfinder! No more accidently getting my ISO wrong and taking really dark shots. Might be a simple thing but having a flip-out back LCD is awesome too. And its SO LIGHT! I can handhold for hours without ruining my shoulders now. So glad I made the change finally. I still love my old DSLR but I'm never looking back.
@@relicthominoid There may even be an even better successor to the OM-1 by the time you upgrade! Your back will definitely thank you for it, it shaved off around 800-900g of weight for me and it's made a huge difference. I definitely recommend getting the 300mm f4 over the 100-400 lens though if you can stretch your budget. It's sharper and faster, and with a 1.4x TC it's an absolute beast. I initially got both but will be selling my 100-400 as I don't miss the zoom at all.
@@The-Secret-Dragon /// I am happy with Nikon D500 and the PF 300mm with 1.4 t TC for wildlife.
I`ve had the same experience. The OM1 is an amazing camera!
@@relicthominoid I have the oly combo , before I shot also 200-500 on d500 for a bit. While the semi-pro DSLR is the nicest thing to hold and operate, om1 is the more modern piece of tech. Faster, bird tracking helps, video is light years better, silent shutter, pro capture is a big deal, stabilisation, computational functions.in a still pretty customizable and comfortable body. Noise performance is imho not really worse , hard to compare, but I'm not disappointed. What u will notice sometimes imho is the difference in depth of field of the smaller sensor and slower lens combo, or the 12bit colors when pushing sliders in editor. But so will you feel the lighter weight. I haven't had a chance to shoot 300f4 but imho even if it's mildly better with 1.4tc, it's almost the same image (more difference will come from technique, post process flow) with prob the biggest benefit being better IS (depends what u shoot, if it moves a lot u don't care ) and quicker AF with om1(50fps) . However 100-400 can be paired with 1.4x too , with good results, while attempting to achieve the same with 300+2x is pushing all the limits, including ones ability to even locate the subject. At half the price and ability to zoom out occasionally.
*Disclaimer I d still happily shoot DSLR, I just prefer Olympus for size and quiet shooting. DSLR reached the top and were abandoned for newer tech development. As a result we know exactly what performance to expect from them and they deliver 100%>. Tried and true. When I shot d500, the only out focus images were those where I failed. Mirrorless is lot more of a black box system doing its magic and us working with / around it. And hoping for it to improve in the future. The raw image quality hasn't improved either over the past decade.
I have been looking at getting a mirrorless camera for some time after watching your videos actually. I really enjoy your videos, whether it be watching them through the day, or listening to them while driving. Your videos are so clear that one can understand the full concept without having to see the video, and going back later to see the examples if needed. You are one of my main go to photography youtubers and have learned so much. Keep up with the phenomenal work!
Glad you like them!
I must say, I greatly appreciate your delivery. Sound like you're actually conversating instead of simply lecturing. Great examples honestly!
(edit) This video needs to be what shows up when people ask Mirrorless vs. DSLR
I just moved from DSLR to mirrorless so this was a good review of the research I had done and what the salesperson was telling me as well. By the way, it was worth driving a few miles to a reliable camera store rather than ordering online. The salesperson was intuitive as to what would meet my needs and budget as an amateur hobbyist! Always love that you add illustrations that make sense.
Which one did you buy?
@@ajithr1255 I'm just at the entry level with the older model Nikon Z50, but am enjoying it so far.
I totally love my Canon. R7 and R6 while using both EF and RF lenses with and without adapters which literally doubles my lens inventory (full frame and crop frame). Thank you for the best mirrorless presentation I’ve seen yet. 10/10 Rating.
Hi Simon. You perfectly explained all the key points, this video should the #1 reference for people wondering if they would switch.
For me, the R6/5 were game changing (Once I could afford one after my trusty 70D nearly drowned in the rain) and they definitely cured my initial fears for EVF, focus, battery life, ..
Your bonus tip is pretty modest: while my 70D could go slightly above images 1000 per battery, on a day in a hide shooting mostly electronic, without image review and disabling "Continuous AF" I was able to get 12800 images on my R5 using only 2 batteries 😀
I am very patient and I can wait for the right moment or moments for a very long time, almost non-stop. I am delighted with dslr photo cameras. What a mirror does with a dslr camera, a mirrorless one can never do. Mirrorless has its advantages, but it's always good to have a dslr as well. At least for me dslr life is not over yet.
How does the mirror make it better?
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Guess you've never been stranded on Gilligan's Island :)
@@michaelbailey4164 The weather started getting rough, an Uber's worth the cost.
Are you claiming that if you use your dslr camera but use live view, the lack of the mirror would make a difference? Still never heard a genuine reason to use dslr over mirrorles other than just being contrarian for the sake of it.
@@jimbojumbo-os1np Yes. Live View uses Dual Pixel CMOS AF to analyze the differences in read-outs from the A and B sides of groups of pixels to detect focus
One of the best things I have found with mirrorless cameras is focus peaking using manual focus. I’ve used this with landscape, night, even bird photography (perched birds). In difficult spaces auto focus searches and finds the background or a small twig in the line of sight etc., thus setting focus manually I see exactly what plane I am focused at and has allowed me to get shots before my subject has moved on as I have happen frequently when shooting autofocus. I’ve gotten pretty quick at doing this but of course fast moving subjects require autofocus and subject tracking, and I love the eye tracking feature.
Great video, I would add that Pentax DSLRs have had IBIS for the last 15years. And the water proof and dust proof is much better on dslrs.
Thanks for sharing. I heard !
You bring up some very good points with using a mirror less camera. As a professional working photographer who’s already invested in digital equipment from analog I not going to be reinvesting in Mirror less where my clients won’t even know the difference! It’s about the photographer not the equipment!
That's very true and wise thought ..
An excellent comparison. Thanks. I am a landscape photographer and switched to a mirrorless system as my back could no longer deal with the weight of my DSLR backpack. Currently I'm on my third generation of mirrorless cameras and still prefer the DSLR optical viewfinder over the EVF. My main complaint is that I have a very hard time seeing the effect of a polarizer when using the EVF. When used with an optical viewfinder the effect is immediate and obvious but when used with an EVF I usually struggle to see what the filter is doing. I'm hoping the manufacturers will solve this issue soon as I use a polarizer frequently.
Oh - I thought it’s just me or my polarizer. I hardly see any effects
I just got my first mirrorless camera last week. I bought a Canon R10 body with no lenses, but I bought an adapter so that I could use all of the lenses I'd bought for my T3i. It's given me a new lease on life. The autofocus is insane on this body. I always kept autofocus off because I could move faster with my hands than the autofocus, but this new body's focus is accurate and constant. Like you said, it's not making me a better photographer, but I come away with more photos that I'm happy with than ever before.
Fantastic explanation Simon! My name is Partha and I watch your videos often from India. Your speech shows your experience of handling camera gears and makes viewers enjoy the content easily and happily. Awaiting many more such videos from you to be with all the technological advancements of the imaging equipment. Thank you.
Simon, A great personality, teaching style, and not even a hint of being a paid “influencer” or brand huckster. Always appreciated and enjoyable.
This is a terrific introduction to mirrorless cameras. Thank you. BTW, I learned about your channel by watching Gavin Hardcastle's videos. : ) Love your chemistry with him and Amanda.
Coolest thing about mirrorless camera is the easy ability to use all kinds of lenses. You can get a whole lot of older lenses on the cheap and get some really good deals out there on some quality glass.
Great video. I love how balanced your advice is between mirrorless and DSLR instead of being biased towards one or the other. You also explain things with very clear and precise language and I notice how you try to use language that is more accessible to people rather than using big words that can make things harder to understand for some people.
He was definitely biased, lol. Literally the only downside he gave to mirrorless is the battery life, but then made sure to immediately follow up with how it's not really an issue. And how he points out how CIPA is inaccurate for mirrorless but doesn't mention that if you go by his recommendation to only compare CIPA ratings to other CIPA ratings, the CIPA rating for a DSLR like a 5D Mark IV is like twice that of the mirrorless, not just 5%. If it only looks at the worst case scenario for a mirrorless, it's also only looking at the worst case scenario for the DSLR. Also some advantages he mentions for mirrorless like the eye focus is available on DSLRs as well if you use live view. Same with the increased shutter speed. And there are other instances where he's clearly biased in his evaluations. But it's fine, everyone is free to have their opinions. I'm just pointing out that he wasn't at all unbiased in the video. There are plenty of real advantages to mirrorless, I'm not trying to put it down or anything. I totally get why a lot of people are switching to it. But just like to call a spade a spade...
@@TalkingHands308 Yeah fair, same. I prefer honesty too. I don't know what CIPA ratings are and have never seen effective autofocus on live view but then I've been shooting with Nikon SLRs for my whole photography journey rather than Canon. Thanks for the info.
I'm a relative newcomer to these mirrorless cameras. I started clicking a Canon AE1 back in the 90s. Now I'm feeling my way around a Sony Alpha 7mk2. I'm grateful for the information you provide as the instruction manual is in Chinese and Arabic. I'm super impressed with the clarity although I could only afford an APS-C Artisan 10mm manual lense. I look forward to better results with an FE lense so I can switch to full frame.
Simon ~ The timing of this presentation is impeccable. I had one foot on the boat, the other on the dock. I'm extremely grateful that you shared your views on Mirrorless and DSLR. That's exactly what I needed to hear to make an educated decision and add the mirrorless to my arsenal. Many thanks and keep them coming ~ the info you share is always really interesting.!.
I like the analog experience my DSLR gives me. Reminds me of the film days. If I want more "modern" experience, I use Live View. Even on my entry level Canon SL3, I get eye detection and dual pixel AF in Live View! Works great for portraits! My next camera will be either a 5D Mk4 or an R5 Mk2!
Excellent video, as always! I made the switch to mirrorless a few years ago and my autofocus experience has been a game changer.
Great to hear!
switched from canon 2000d to M100 to have a small form camera, and set the focus to manual with auto when on manual setting, no more problems with getting the subject properly focus as when you half press for composure you can also turn the ring to manual focus and get a zoom picture on touch screen to fine tune, also auto focus on the m100 is so much better than the 2000d, love the videos and picking up great tips
I've just started working some overtime on my job to save up for a newer camera. The first thing I thought about was "Should I invest in a mirrorless camera?" so when I saw your RUclips, Simon, I knew I had to get your input on mirrorless. Thank you for explaining so expertly all the differences and what to expect or what to look for. Price, of course, is the main factor (especially since I'm not a professional photographer) but at least now I'm much more well-informed about mirrorless vs DSLR. And it took you less than 15 minutes to explain it all! Loving your videos, sir!
And what Camera did you get? Im in the same Situation and dont know if i should buy a Canon R5/ R6 II or a Sony A9 (used). Im shooting 70% Wildlife and 30% Family and Kids. I also thought about the Nikon D850.
Thanks for this excellent summary. It is not hard to see that just as digital photography replaced film, mirrorless will take over from the venerable DSLR. You will know when this has happened when they are no longer referred to as mirrorless
I really appreciate your measured approach to everything in your videos. Too often, you see photographers claiming that what works best for them is "the rules" of photography while you look at how things work for a large variety of photographers and styles
My pleasure!
Your photography content is the best I have found. Content rich, excellent pace, interesting subject matter, and clearly you invest a lot of time and effort both pre and post. Thank you !
I was given a Kodak z950 point and shoot as a gift; the lack of mirror clacking was an eye opener. Chose the DMC G7 just last year. No regrets. That camera came out in 2012 I think and it's amazing even today.
Great informative video as usual Simon. One thing I consider in this debate is that R&D is going 100% into mirrorless, and that DSLRs are dying out not being able to the tech that mirrorless is coming out with….
yess, mirrorless is where all the new innovations will be.
I transitioned to mirrorleds in 2020 and will not go back. The reason I was holding back was the optical vs electronic VF. With the last DSLR I had, I had to use reading glasses always to preview my images on the back LCD. It was such a pain. Then one day I was watching a RUclips video by Hudson Henry and he mentioned with mirrorless EVF you can preview before and after shooting. I went to a camera store and checked out and the EVF really blew me off. Now since I gotten used to it, I can't use the OVF. I like the fact that I can see the photo I am going to take right in the EVF and I always shoot manual. I don't need to take my reading glasses to preview or view photos on LCD screen, I can view and preview then on the EVF without my reading glasses. (There was a time I thought I had to give up photography because my eyesight was getting bad).
I have both, one full frame DSLR (for landscape) and a crop sensor camera of each( for wildlife.) While I like the mirrorless camera I tend to prefer having an optical viewfinder. This is pretty much a personal tastes though and I could get by just fine with EVFs. Still I wish companies weren't totally abandoning DSLRs because I feel the consumer should have the choice.
there are some mirrorless cameras with the OVF, for example Fujifilm, XPRO1, XPRO2 , XPRO3 . Obviously The OVF does not show anything through the lens. It functions as one on a rangefinder like Leica and is simply an optical window with frame lines and much better parallax correction.
If I remember correctly, lenses on Fujis partly obstruct the view through the OVF. Other mirrorless cameras have simulated OVFs, which are not identical to true OVFs but are still sometimes helpful on bright days with deep shadows.
@@leemarkowitz4709 I don't know about this "problem" with Fuji camera but probably still other options from other brands around 👍
This was a great explanation, thanks Simon. I'm glad the algorithm noticed your channel, your videos deserve a lot of views.
Much appreciated!
Switched to Canon's R5 two years ago and sold my MK III when it became obvious I would not be going back. Adapter on my EF 11-24 produces superb images better than the MK III, and I'm slowly adding RF lenses because I'm continually impressed than Canon has decided to provide near-L--or L--level quality in a much smaller, lighter, less expensive package than they ever have before, without lessening the real value of the L Series. I still own my film cameras and sometimes--sometimes--use them. But digital is finally getting to the point I might have to admit film--and all the chemicals and enviro-waste that comes with the genre--is truly being replaced. Cameras like the R5 prove it. Excellent video, thank you.
Yes, I converted to Mirrorless back in 2015 with Sony's a7ii and 2016 with the a7S-ii. It was a risky move back then as Mirrorless was still new and behind DSLR. But today, its light years ahead of DSLR now and is still improving. There are so much more benefits to using Mirrorless over DSLR and it actually does make me a better photographer. I can correct exposure better without needing to depend on the meter alone. I use Eye-AF for portraits so I don't have always change focus points like i do with a DSLR. I use E-shutter for weddings so that I can walk around like a ninja staying silent. And so much more that I can't list them all. I'm glad Sony didn't abandoned the Mirrorless system and invested in it heavily thus revolutionizing the camera industry today. Had they not done it, I would have been out thousands of dollars and Canon and Nikon would still be making DSLR to this day. Heck, it was Sony that forced them to wake up and start researching Mirrorless after Sony took the #1 spot. Today, i recommend everyone to go Mirrorless because it offers you so much more for your buck. And just by removing that mirror, it unlocked so much more potential to cameras today.
At the end of the day, mirrorless is just another marketing blockbuster... if mirrorless is light years ahead, then why top brands keep DSLR only for their high-end lineups?.. Just like it happens in other areas, like CD's or Analog Synths, won't be too long before people start looking for those good old DSLR's again... Film Photography is making a comeback... does that rings any bells?..
@@Mud_AleX Is this all you got? And which top brands keeping DSLR only for their high-end lineups? Canon move onto their R3 and future R1. Nikon produced their Z8 and Z9. Sony with their A9-iii and A1. Oh yea, all 3 are flagship mirrorless cameras. And film photography hasn't made any comeback at all. Just you spitting out nonsense. Just another DSLR user trying to justify their reasons to holding onto their DSLR because they can't handle the truth about Mirrorless.
@@harryvuemedia5106bias BS
Hey Simon , thank you very much showing us this very beautyful pictures and your interesting comments of course , wish you all the best !
You have provided an engaging and informative overview of the differences between the two technologies. Mirrorless is starting to look like the future of photography. I recently upgraded from my trusty Canon 60D which is an APS-C camera to a near mint 5D Mark III which is full frame. This is going to be a wonderful journey of exploration for me as I get to grips with my newish camera but I can see me falling for the charms of mirrorless cameras once the price of these cameras comes down a bit and there is a more varied and affordable selection of lenses for this format. You produce very watchable content, I have to say.
I also use a 60D and have considered moving to to a 5d Mark III or IV. As an amature cost is big issue for me and while I would love to move to mirrorless, a 5d is already more camera than I can utilize.
This was the singularly most informative video on the differences between DSLR and mirrorless I have seen. I have been planning on switching to mirrorless without this much clarity in my decision. The switch is going to be expensive, but I am more confident in moving forward. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for providing such excellent videos. I've been an amateur photographer for roughly 50 years, and have learned more from you in a week than I have during that time.
Glad you like them!
This channel is incredible! Simply love the patience and dedication to explain when providing facts and specs. Also, the way you talk, articulate, and accent helps a lot for understanding.
Thank you very much!
I switched to Sony after being a Nikon user for over 30 years. I can say the the EVF looks is my biggest pet peeve ; other than that I love the mirrorless system and that I don't have to do lens calibration like with my Nikon D850
Excellent Simon. I learned the hard way to not be an early adopter when transitioning to the new technology. Despite one's emotions, getting 2nd or 3rd generation gear that the initial limitations of that new tech are fixed is a much better way to advance to that next step. I may be showing my age but starting out with film equipment, then digital SLR's, and now mirrorless forces one to really work on their photography skills as they learn about the new cameras and I truly believe that journey made me a better hobbyist photographer.
Sony is on to 4th Gen, at least, already. 10 years ago you would have been an early adopter but that ship sailed long ago.
Simon, I am a professional wedding photographer, and one major problem with the mirrorless cameras is almost never mentioned; flash photography.
In all of the comments to this video I only found only one that mentioned issues with flash photography, but the problem is far worse than that comment indicated. In addition, I believe this problem is common across all brands of mirrorless cameras. My choice of Brands is Nikon, and I use a D810 for my main wedding camera. However, I purchased a Nikon Z6ii mirrorless to add as a second camera, and it gave me very poor results at a couple of weddings.
People who have not photographed weddings may not even realize that there is a lot of very very low light action during weddings, especially the typical reception. They turn the lights way down for key moments like the father/daughter dance, and dancing in dark in general, and the bouquet toss. With a DSLR, the flash emits a strong deep red focusing light briefly before the shutter is released that allows the camera to instantly focus in complete darkness followed by the shutter release. I normally set the the shutter speed at around 1/100 and the aperture at f/5.6 to prevent ambient light from adding much to the exposure which will smear the image. The TTL flash automatically sets the exact amount of light needed for a perfect exposure, and the duration of the flash is 1/1000 or more which stops all action, and every image is crystal sharp. Of course you can lower the shutter speed to whatever you want to bring the ambient in the background up a little if you want to. You just don't want the ambient light to affect the exposure of the subject. I also never use the lens wide open, because the depth of field is too shallow.
So, I tried my new Nikon Z6ii mirrorless camera at several low ambient events using flash, and immediately found that the red focusing lamp will not come on in the flash. This caused none of my flash shots to be in focus. I've talked with other wedding pros who do use the new mirrorless cameras, and they mention shooting with the lens at f/2.8 and ISO 12000 or higher using continuous focus and shutter release priority to get a few flash shots to come out sharp, but the keeper rate is extremely low. The quality of those images is also very poor. The Z6ii will focus in pretty low light, but not fast enough, even at ISO 12,000, and f/2.8, to get in focus before the flash fires.
So, for now, I use my Z6ii for birds in flight, wildlife, and all daylight subjects, but it stays at home for weddings or other events with very low level ambient.
have you gotten to try out a Sony S3?
To be fair you pretty much got the worst big-brand mirrorless out there. My sony has no problem focusing in ambient since it can will turn off "live preview effect" and will focus just fine.
Did you happen to buy a quality flash for the z6ii? Or do you just use the stock one on the body? If so, that’s your issue, look into Godox flashes
Yes. My friend has z6ii and has the same issue. He uses the sb series flash and it does nit fire sometimes. Also the colors are bit strange like too digital. His d750 gives good results. Only advantage is the focus is bit better and stabilization helps in low light.
i was just debating on buying a newer camera coming from a DSLR and this explains about all i needed to know ! probably will be getting a newer mirrorless camera!
thank you for the video, my biggest issue when I first transitioned to mirrorless was viewfinder lag (in electronic viewfinder's) when shooting fast-moving nature or sports. This is no longer a problem with the newer cameras. I switched from the 5D mark 3 to the Sony a7R3 and did not notice any issues with battery life, in fact I would get more shots with the mirrorless.
Also I am unaware of new DSLR lenses being developed, by the top manufacturers.
One thing to note. If you want to take advantage of the camera's best settings, RAW or log curves are the most commonly used with mirrorless (some rare DSLRs do have it). However, this is way harder to use vs a DSLR's natural color profile. And having those good colors out of the gate is why DSLRs are very easy and great to work with. It is not bad to want simplicity when it comes to this, given the learning curve for RAW and Log are much higher. You can process far more images from a DSLR than working with Log/RAW files. And if you want to get a bunch of photos out where you are taking advantage of each camera's best features, I wouldn't recommend ever doing mirrorless, especially if you are photography oriented. However, if you like to be a bit more picky with all your shots and a level of creative control that almost feels illegal, mirrorless absolutely is worth considering for your workflow, especially if you like color management.
Since so many have moved to mirrorless, there are many amazing DSLRs you can pick up for hardly anything that used to cost thousands. You can find a Canon 5D Mark III for under $700, which is a beast at photos. There's even one at KEH for a bargain deal that's $400.
There aren't many contenders to DSLRs on the used market, especially if you want full frame. Sony's discontinued full frame cameras are starting to be at that reasonable price point, so if you aren't needing the color management, pick up a used DSLR
I just discovered Simon d'Entremont's videos. I'm so glad you get right to the point, stay on topic, and your information is spot-on and useful. Subscribed immediately!
Welcome aboard!
You kind of touched on it but weight is a massive advantage to mirrorless. Even with a larger mirrorless (eg Fuji XT series) it so much better on your back/arms when using it for any length of time. For me it was a key point in switching earlier. I am glad to see the technology constantly improving and just have to manage GAS 🙂
I just watched 10 videos cover this topic. 9 were a waste of time . Yours was spectacular. So informative and easy to understand. Thanks so much!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Probably the best unbiased comparison between the two types of cameras that I have seen on RUclips. Very helpful and insightful for people like me who are still trying to decide to switch to mirrorless!! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
One thing to consider. Age. Starting from 40 your sight may start to degrade. For years and years I preferred the real world look through the optical viewfinder. I switched to mirrorless more than a decade ago because I was bored of the size of DSLR. But one thing lately convinced me I was right: on my Fuji X-Pro 3 I can use the hybrid viewfinder either optical (OVF) or electronic (EVF), and boy I've been using the EVF 90% of the time, it a real blast, it's clear, I can see everything at high definition, my exposure is live and I don't struggle focusing manually like I do with OVF, my sight isn't what it was and wearing glasses is easier with EVF even if it's not perfect + I don't have to chimp on the rear screen as the images I take get displayed for ½ second which is enough to know if everything went right.
Agree!
I think that constant look in the viewfinder damaged my left eye and i also get dizzy when i look away, i'm not using viewfinder almost at all for years now
@@cristibaluta Did you try to consult an optometrist?
In terms of Age and eyesight, I agree, however, I'm currently happy with my 5D for hobby use.
This is a very helpful comment.
Once again, an awesome video! Your blending in of subject, illustrated video of the inside of a camera, and other things makes your videos easy to follow and understand. Your attention to detail and the flow of your presentation makes your videos a must see. Thank you!
I bought an R5 because you mention it so much. It really is an amazing do it all.
Haha thanks
Get recommended this video. I open it and the first things I notice is how damn good this video itself looks and Simon has crazy good delivery. Respect!
I agree... I upgraded to a r10 from a rebel t100. I went back to practice with my rebel this past weekend, and the pictures were much better than i thought they would have turned out. I dont think it was the camera, it was the fact that I've been practicing more, and now that i have a camera that can take high-speed photos, I'm more motivated to practice.
Beau travail Simon, a 78 je garde mes DSLR pour le moment. Merci.
Great info. At my current level of photography, my current gear is more than adequate. Thanks for putting it into perspective.
A point not mentioned here about the EVF: I've met people who don't like the feel of them specifically because they always move at a slight delay, so it can feel off. This is probably less prevalent on more modern and high-end options, but worth looking for in reviews.
EVF have been fixed greatly and is now better than OVF. 60 hz to 120 hz refresh rate is crazy. Then add a 9 million dot OLED display, you got yourself an EVF that no OVF in the world can do better anymore
As a wildlife photographer I am still shooting with 2 D500 DSLR's, I do not like the lag in the EVF on the Z9/Z8 and until the overall image improves and the lag is no longer noticeable I can't see myself moving in a hurry. Informative video however with many relevant points.
@@wildlifesnapper1 Shoot with an a9-iii, a1 and a9ii. Different story and you should know Nikon came late to the mirrorless game.
@@harryvuemedia5106never shot Sony so it's not an option, I also have thousands of pounds invested in Nikon F glass and my work is constantly published by the British trust for Ornithology so there's nothing wrong with my images or equipment!
@@harryvuemedia5106 I don't agree with the notion that EVFs have surpassed OVFs. There is still some lag and the ones I've used occasionally stuttered, e.g., when the camera was focusing. It is possible that this has been ironed out recently but an EVF will always show you some white balance choice. Some will argue this is a plus (WYSIWYG) but I say it is a distraction because at the time of composing the image, I'm not thinking about final presentation choices (like the best white balance, for instance). N.B., higher frame rates are very power hungry and deplete a camera's battery even quicker than a mirrorless camera already does per default. Also, many EVFs slow down the frame rate when the camera gets busy.
Excellent, at last someone who puts it in “everyday speak”, instead of techno geek speak. Thank you
You Tube usually has the worst suggestions. Today they suggested your channel. Im so glad, you’re wonderful and very great information. Thank you.
Wow, thank you!
I've been mirrorless for several years now with my Olympus OM bodies but... I still love my Canon 5d Mk 2 and the 'L' lenses. That said, the Olympus 'Pro' lenses are superb. Tack sharp and never need any sharpening in 'post'. (BTW... with the weight consideration in mind, I just turned 76 - and I'm no 'health freak'!! 😉 )
The Olympus S510 was my very first DSLR and I loved the four-thirds experience. I switched to Nikon and let my daughters learn on the Olympus. 14 years later, it’s still going.
Budget dictates that I must wait a while longer before making the switch from DSLR to Mirrorless - I am having a great time with my 5D Mark IV and (still) with my 7D. The benefits you've described are appealing - but too costly (for me) at present. Just recently getting more into Landscape and Wildlife photography/videography. I think I'm better off to further develop my skills in these arenas before purchasing more expensive equipment. Comforting to know that I can adapt my DSLR lenses when I can go mirrorless. I'll continue watching for product reviews to narrow down the list of "candidates" from which to make my selection. Also, expecting prices to normalize (lower?) as competition expands. In the meantime, I'll continue to thoroughly enjoy your videos, Simon. My favorite channel. With love from Atlanta.
You are right to develop skills in those areas. That is something that many, especially new photographers, do not want to take the time to do. They immediately go buy the latest Sony mirrorless, so they don't have to learn the basics...but they can click a button and slap on editing presets with the best of them.😅 Tada!
One issue I’ve been alerted to by lighting operator at night club, be extra careful if you are photographing when lasers are operating . They have had photographers ruin two mirrorkess cameras due to sensor damage. I don’t know the brand or models unfortunately, but I presume that the lack of mirror leaves the sensor physically exposed , and even if inactive a high power laser can damage pixels. Of course DSLRs can also be damaged when shooting, but it seems to be a greater risk with mirrorless. For now I’m happy with my DSLR , I was considering changing at next upgrade, but will need to consider this issue as well.
That’s a good point. The sensor is constantly being exposed with mirrorless, so it might not last as long.
I switched from a bulky Nikon D700 to a handy Sony A7 almost ten years ago and I never looked back. Sure the battery life was quite a bit worse, but apart from that the smaller mirrorless camera is better for me in every single way. Now I'm rocking a A7iii and is even more happy :)
As a long long time DSLR camera user (Pentax film / Canon Rebel). So I really appreciate your videos, especially helping me figure out which direction to go next.
Glad to help!
Your style is the best, never boring. Thanx.
Excellent video - really good information and points, really well delivered.
I’m a convert to mirror less and enjoy the form factor over DSLRs.
Mirrorless lenses don’t have to worry about the additional issues of back focusing inherent with SLRs, meaning less compromises - or additional complexity/weight/size with your DSLR.
However, when I go out shooting for fun these days, I typically use my 84 year old film rangefinder!
Yeah, I would have kept my Leica M7 if I could ever find a decent local processing lab -- but those days are gone forever. I do regret selling all my Leica lenses because I've learned that Fujifilm offers a M-lens adapter. Oh well . . .
As you stated in the video, the only problem I’ve found with having a mirrorless as my first camera is that the lenses are really expensive and that there are not as many options on the used market
I can only speak for Canon, but the adopted EF lenses work better on RF cameras than they did on EF cameras. I would only use a cannon adapter, but you really only need one $100 adapter. And that applies to Sigma EF lenses as well. I have not tried any other brands but I expect it would be the same.
You do know Rokinon, Sigma and Tamron makes great 3rd party lenses for Nikon and Sony right? It's only Canon that doesn't allow 3rd party RF lenses right now
From the videos I've seen on this subject so far, this is the most informative and to the point explanation of how the two types of cameras compare to each other, along with their strengths and weaknesses.
I got my Canon 750D stolen in 2022 so at the start of 2023 I got the Canon R50 just as it came out and I am extremely happy with it. It is better lighter and I still use 18-400 previous gen lens with an Adapter. And if I want to have an extremely light indoors camera I just put that little new gen lens on and I got a tiny cam on me that has the Abilities of a full on DSLR. The focusing features are amazing on the R50 really happy with it.
That last bit about battery life was satisfying to hear. I’ve been shooting Fuji cameras since 2015 and since the beginning I’ve heard people complain about the battery life of Fuji cameras, but I’ve never had any issues myself. I almost never had to switch batteries while out shooting. I think it helps that Fuji cameras have the on/off button around the shutter and I turn it off when I’m done shooting a subject. Its such a quick and easy thing to do, so why not right? I might be wrong, but I get the feeling that a lot of people just keep their cameras turned on al the time while outside, maybe relying on the sleep mode, but still they have it turned on for more minutes than they need.