IS FULL FRAME BETTER THAN CROP SENSOR? The truth people often don’t believe
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My name is Simon d'Entremont and I'm a professional wildlife and nature photographer from Eastern Canada. Are you befuddled by the differences in sensor sizes and what it means for your photography? Noise, image quality, bokeh, resolution, size? I'll cover all of these and more.
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What sized sensor are you using and why? I'd love to know! Always looking to know my viewers habits and gear to make better videos!
I went with the Sony a1 (full frame) mostly for fast auto focus and high frame rate. I'm not sure the 50 megapixels are doing me that much good based on last weeks video about affective megapixels. I also have a Sony a6600 for travel. Believe it or not, I absolutely love my small Sony RX 100 VI with a one inch sensor! It's not only very small and can literally fit in a pocket, it takes amazing photos! It does a fantastic job in respect to auto focus and depth of field, even at night. I took photos of Red Square (yes in Moscow, before Russia lost it's mind!) at night using it and they came out like I was a professional. I cropped the images to make them look like they were panorama shots. I then used an AI upscaler program (last weeks video subject) to give them enough detail to print to 8" x 24". I also use it in an underwater housing for scuba diving photos and videos. Once again, it does an amazing job with auto focus and wide depth of field, especially for small subjects and fast subjects. I know it can't match a full frame camera in the hands of a professional, but it makes me look good!!! 😁
I currently own four Canon dslr's. All are crop sensor. I found that crop sensor work fine for my needs and the cost difference between full frame and crop is ridiculous. I've had prints made into 24x36 posters with no loss of detail( to the average person viewing the poster). If I am concerned about sharpness then I'll have the file printed on canvas.
Also I am not limited on which type of lens I can use.
I switched to Fuji APSC a few years ago. On the one hand because of the price/performance ratio. On the other hand because of the weight. Whether at events or on hikes, etc., every gram counts for me. I also like the Fuji sensors and their image quality/look and how they are built. Regards
Full Frame and APS-C. I have a Sony A7 FF CSC and a Sony A77 APS-C DSLR. I love the flexibility of having access to better but more expensive E-mount glass and cheap second hand A-mount glass. The A77 is considerably bigger, but still performs really well and I can pick up excellent used A-mount glass for a fifth the price of equivalent E-mount lenses!
I'm on M43 sensor, because it is cheaper^^
My photography mentor took me to Kenya (saved up for a year for that trip!) and demonstrated why he only shot crop sensor Nikon bodies. Instead of putting all his money into the newest full-frame gizmos, he put his money into the lenses. He used a Nikkor 400mm 2.8 lens on his crop sensor body and got reach and depth of field the rest of us could only dream of. Using the effective 600mm body/lens combo he grabbed a close-up portrait of a lion mid-roar. That photo was sold to CC Africa for one of their catalogs and paid for his entire trip. The body? A several years-old D200 that he shot until the camera wore out and then he got a D7100. I learned to stop reading internet reviews and megapixel comparisons. The proof was in the images.
RUclips job is too sell you shit. Period.
The obsession with “gear” is a highly American phenomenon…no different from playing with firearms, invading countries, toppling govts and warmongering.
Its part of the Anglo American culture.
Created by the sneaky American EDWARD BERNAYS who shaped American consumers’ minds.
Great. For landscape it's the opposite: you normally need wide angle lenses to be wide.
Literally wildlife and sports are possibly the only types of photography that crop bodies excel vs full frame
Apart from wildlife & sports - covert & macro photography also prefers crop sensors.
While astro, landscape, real estate, and portrait/social/events photography prefer bigger wider sensors.
I like this guy. Straight to the point, no obnoxious yelling/loud talking, just simple, concise explanations. Great video!
The thing that separates Simon from others… He gets to the point. Clear, concise, and thorough.
I don't know. His explanation and examples seem almost word for word the same as a video from four years ago from Hyun Ralph Jeong explaining the difference, in both sensors. ruclips.net/video/cg3DfoYqQzY/видео.html&ab_channel=HyunRalphJeong
@@fartpooboxohyeah8611 I mean, they are keeping their explanations VERY simple and rather short, so there isn't much leeway on how to explain it. I wouldn't be surprised if they both took their scripts from similar online resources (maybe WIkipedia).
Regarding the bokeh part, it’s the first time I see someone not only understanding but also demystify the concept of « point of confusion » without even mentioning it…
Thumbs up!!!
No kidding, captain obvious!
Usually takes him 1:15 seconds to do so.
Gotta give you props. As a m4/3 user I have to say that this is the most even-handed comparison of full frame vs crop/.small sensored cameras I've yet to hear/read. Well done.
Thanks very much!
Excellent instructor. Well done!
m4/3 is crap!!!!
@@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Better than a cell phone camera and is great for travel.
@@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatwith the Olympus 300 f4 and the 12-100 pro you can get some very nice, extremely sharp photos. And neither costs ridiculous money either.
I doubt you could tell the difference between full frame and photos from those lenses paired with an om1.
If you shoot in a coal mine and are obsessed with toneh then yeah maybe m43 is crap.
Another ‘no nonsense’, practical and easy to understand video, full of common sense! Keep up the excellent work Simon. Alun
thanks!
😅 this person is here always to copy paste his previous comment.....
"Use what you have and go out there and take some amazing photos." That is the best photography advice I have heard in some time. The best way to hone your hobby/craft is best accomplished by doing. Thank you Simon!
Glad it was helpful!
That's ultimately the thing, the best camera will always be the camera that you have with you, even if there is a "better" camera in existence, if it's not in your hands, then it's not better.
This was very true in old times, when photography was something special. Now being an photoamateur is more about gadgets, less about taken photographs. Now every camera is good enough, so sure you can take an old one OM-D or a top one EOS R and take the same, good photo. Or maybe even with a smartphone... But where is the fun? Where is the satisfaction of riding a fiery horse? Nice looking photo? In 2024 when in one day we see more images than our grandparents in one year?
so true. use what you have or what you want/love. it doesnt matter if its a expensive camera or a cheap. just make the right art and have fun. thats it. no bullshit.
I use an a6000 as a hobbyist. I have a different profession that I enjoy, so this is just a hobby for me. Even though the a6000 is older,it is very very usable. I was going to spend over 1000 dollars to upgrade my body. But instead I bought better glass and bought topaz de-noise. I’m very glad I went this route as now I get amazing looking photos. Most of my issues I had were do to my knowledge and not my gear. Thanks to Simon. I am enjoying photography far more than I ever have before.
The fact that you provide these videos for free is amazing, So much information packed in such a short time and delivered so clearly. Thank you so much!
Glad you like them!
This is one if not the best photography channel in my opinion. No bullshit, pure knowledge👍
Too kind!
@@simon_dentremont I second that comment.....The best !
@@simon_dentremont I third it!
@@laninico Thanks very much!
@@rickkwitkoski1976 Thanks!
This has to be one of the best explanations of the differences between crop and full size sensors. They need to have this video playing on a big screen in the lens section of every camera store.
Simon is the best photography teacher on RUclips.
Dang straight .
9:58 I’ve been arguing this with photographers for years. The people I’m arguing with always compare a 50mm full frame lens to a 50mm equivalent APS-C lens, using the same aperture value at the same distance, or just like your example, try to frame the exact same with the same lens using both sensor sizes to try and prove their point. Your video proved literally what I’ve been saying for a long time. Great video as always. I’ll send people to this video anytime that conversation gets brought up.
another benefit of crop sensors : sice you need a smaller focal length to emulate the same angle of view compared to full frame cameras, you can run into situation where the focal lenght is small enough that you could get a very small focus distance, as close focusing capabilities degrade when the focal length increases.
Also there is something I wanna add about the size and weight : Brands are not taking the same approach when it comes to APS-C, and recently it has gotten a bit worse.
Before, in the DSLR days, we had APS-C cameras that could be entry level, with entry level lenses. But we also had pro level cameras that were made specifically to take advantage of a crop sensor (like the 7D line from Canon, D300/D500 cameras from Nikon) as well as prosumer cameras that were the mid/high end of consumer cameras (80D, 90D or the whole D7000 line). What made these cameras such good platforms is that you could use the APS-C glass that was purpose built for them(DX lenses from Nikon, EF-S lenses from Canon), but you could also use the full frame glass on there if you needed more reach or better image quality.
But these times are kinda over. Nowadays, the crop sensor market is a lot more dull compared to what it was 5 years ago. The best contender in the APS-C space by far is Fujifilm, with very high quality APS-C cameras, and purpose-built APS-C glass that is very good whithout breaking the bank like a Sony GM lens would. The problem with that system, is that you're basically locking yourself in APS-C as Fujifilm doesn't have any full frame cameras. In firm second place comes Sony, with a good range of lenses, but aging camera bodies that will limit the potential of the whole system and are just here to be a kickstarter to the E mount ecosystem, ultimately pushing people towards full frame if they want basic prosumer features like dual card slots.
Canon and Nikon have taken the exact same approach witht their mirrorless APS-C cameras as you have pretty decent cameras (especially on Canon's side with the R7 and R10) but you don't have any glass for it except kit lenses, so if you want good quality glass you'll have to get a full frame lens, and at this point you'd give up the advantage in size and weight that those camera systems would offer.
Anyway, this was an outstanding video, with no nonsense and no further confusion added on top of that very controversial subject ! I've been trying to get this right at my level for the last few months and realised that most of the confusion came from youtubers that tried to explain something they didn't fully understand in the first place. You sir, know what you're talking about and it shows!
Great additions!
You could add Pentax, they still have great new APS-C bodies and glass. But of course, it's DSLR only and the speed of development is close to a standstill. Nowadays.
Agree 100% on Fuji...they've taken a really unique approach. The best crop sensor platform, high quality lenses for days, and then skipping right over full frame and going straight to medium format ($$$!) I love the cameras so much that I want to stay with their system but with the kind of photography I do, I'm always going to have one eye on the full frame Nikon Z and Canon R stuff...
The good thing about Canon is that their older EF-S lenses work great on their RF-S cameras. There's great entry level glass available, such as the 24mm 2.8 STM and the 55-250 IS STM. Sure, you need an adapter and they typically aren't as compact as native lenses, but for now, they are a great alternative. I recently switched to an R7, and I only own two R lenses currently (16mm and 18-150mm). For the rest, I am still using adapter EF lenses (24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 10-18mm, 55-250).
One thing to keep in mind with using full frame lenses on APS-C is that a decent FF lens may look terrible on APS-C, due to the much smaller pixel size. Only the sharpest full frame lenses will look good on a high resolution crop camera - the R7 has the same pixel density as a 80+MP full frame camera...
Agreed.that’s why I’m invested in Olympus. Just one sensor size so no crappy lenses for step kid like crop sensor bodies
Dear Simon. Your explanations are like someone asks you and you give the answers to the point without any extra telling and without missing a thing. Thank you very much.
You're the clearest, most objective photography teacher I've ever watched. Great video.
This video is gold .my man explains and simplifies what you want only .no filler talks no ads and no nonsense
I love how knowledgeable you are, it's incredibly evident in your ability to simply, and efficiently, explain what, at first brush for me, a complicated topic. Thank you for sharing your expertise!
I just like to say I REALLY appreciate your patience in explaining full-frame and crop sensor dynamics. Never understood it THIS CLEARLY until now. Thank you, Sir!
This is by far the best explanation I've seen about crop sensor and full frame. Clear, simple and to the point information.
I needed to listen to this video again.
Everyone else just talk about their own kind of photography.
It is hard finding someone like you who understand that different kinds of photography work different and some characterisrics of the gear are more or less important than in other generes.
I watched many explanations/debates on the same subject. Your presentation is by far the best, easiest to understand, and best delivery style. Cheers!
Why this channel doesn't have over 500k subscribers is one of youtubes great mystery.great accurate description of sensor size differences
I’ve only been at it 10 months! Give me a few more months! haha. thanks.
Simon’s explanations are much clearer than everyone else’s and correct where many others are wrong or confusing
I sold my Sony A7III and bought FujiFilm X-T3 and couldn't be happier. I shoot mostly landscapes and shooting with the camera is so much fun. The only difference real difference I perceive between FF and APS-C is that every time I change lenses I have to calculate the focal length equivalents so that I know what fov the lens has.
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For me it is the other way around... I used APSC for about 5 years and got used to it. Now that I upgraded to full frame I have to calculate the focal length equivalents 😅
Same here I sold all my Full Frame Nikon gear and bought a Fuji X-T3 and Fuji EX2. I don't miss FF at all. I also own a print shop and the difference is so small in printing large images nobody can tell what was shot on FF vs Fuji APSC.
Why not X-T5 or X-T4? better battery and ibis, and the AF on the X-T5 is far superior not to mention 40mp.
@@stevenbamford5245 I got the X-T3 before X-T5 came out so that wasn't an option. I don't like the tilt screen and the slightly bigger size of the X-T4 although the ibis is quite a significant upgrade. Battery is really not a problem with X-T3, at least not for me, it usually lasts me a few days. 26 Mpx is plenty and the autofocus is quite good already.
What a great video. No fluff, just pure honesty and knowledge. I like that you used examples for why even some professionals would choose crop over full frame!
The effort you put in the videos shows up in your professional style. Nobody does it better and if you ever are doing a wildlife photo tour anywhere I'll book in a heartbeat!! Thanks Simon!!!
I love your videos because they're to the point with no BS and you cover all the aspects of a topic and with authority
Your objective assessment is one of the things that keeps bringing me back. Just the facts please. Simplicity and accuracy in presentation are a great skill not often seen. Thank you. You make it seem so easy, but so well thought out. I'm an APS-C user which I chose for reasons of cost, size and weight. I'm 70 years old and one-handed. Size and weight are critical issues. I bought the gear a couple of years ago new and have no regrets. Well... weather sealing would have been nice. I cope.
I'm a MFT guy and never regretted it. The majority of trips I do are on foot and the small size is a plus. But what really counts is the weight, or the lack of. Glass is heavy and after a 10Km trip to a location you will be happy about every gramm you don't have to carry back.
Thank you so much for this video. The way you broke things down and explained it finally made it make sense for me better than all the other videos/things I’ve read about it.
Another excellent video! Clear and concise. Your comment about taking pics with the camera you have resonated with me. When someone (in person) comments on my gear, I always say, "Having any camera, even one on a cellphone, is better than having no camera at all."
Excellent presentation and very non-biased. As a long time amateur photographer using Olympus micro four thirds gear, I prefer it for size and cost considerations. But I know the system has both pros and cons as any camera system. At this stage, I'm more concerned about developing my "eye" and post processing skills rather than spending lots of money chasing sensor size and megapixel count. This video is one of the best, if not the best at presenting an overview of the various sensor sizes. Thanks!
Your teaching style, demeanor, and delivery are exceptional. Smart. Concise. Correct. Subbed!
Your explanation about depth of field was simple and just perfect, a lot of others videos tried to explain more technically, but you just showed how it works in a few seconds!
There is one thing I simple love about the APS-C sensor, it's the camera size. I have the Canon M200 with grip adapter and a 50mm f1.8. The camera is small and I can carry all day in a trip without getting uncomfortable with a big bag. Now it is my best friend haha.
Only discovered your channel the other day, but loving the clarity you bring to your explanations - thank you!
Welcome!
Sometimes, I check if this is a Masterclass channel I'm watching. Thank you sir for giving us high quality photography episodes!
Wow, thanks!
Sometimes
Jason, I’m working on a video course for wildlife photography. Can I use your comment in promotional material, with attribution? Thanks
@@simon_dentremont I'd be honoured if you do sir!
Simon! I love, love, love the photography content you're making on this channel and your teaching style is so calm and informative. I look forward to every video so please keep up the good work my friend. Sending you best wishes from here in the UK :)
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge.
This is the best explanation ive of crop vs fullframe ive ever watched on YT, awesome!
Thank you for the very informative video. There is a push from youtubers to convince everyone that real photographer has to use full frame and the crop cameras are inferior. However after switching from MFT to APS-C, I realized that what matters is to have a good camera that you have with you. Just because of bigger and heavier camera and lenses, I missed tons of shots. Just because of that, I switched back to MFT. Now I can carry my camera everywhere and also I can buy many high quality lenses that deliver fantastic results. I have seen many people buying aps-s or full frame camera to just pair it with one single low quality kit lens.
Again, thank you very much for fantastic videos.
When I went from DSLR to Mirrorless I moved up from a crop sensor to a 46MP Full-Frame. I feel like with this combo I get the best of both worlds! When I need to crop in to a standard APS-C size, I still get a nice sharp 20 MP image.
That is why I got a Sony A7R4....26mp aps-c mode photos
THIS
I found your channel recently. I am enjoying your videos. I greatly appreciate the relevant, realistic and unbiased approach you give to subjects and how you communicate your thoughts. Stay the route! Cheers.
i love the fact you are unbiased on whatever you comment on. thanks, keep it up, im never going to be a great photoghrapher but am interested in getting better. my first experience in SLR was i was a tattooist (this is in the days of film) i bought the most expensive compact camera you could get at the time with the biggest zoom lens but could not get go pics of my tatts so i went into jessops (when they were still on the highstreet) and explained to the assistant my problem. he gave me a knowing look and gave me an SLR and said borrow this for your photos. what an eye opener, it was like night and day obviously i bought the camera (a canon D10) i quickly realised how much more you could do with an SLR. my camera now is a 2000d, yes i still use my phone for photos but it still cant compete with a DSLR
I definitely needed this advice, and the rest of your channel has been equally helpful.
As an amateur photographer, my greatest worry has been that my 15-year old crop sensor camera is holding me back from progressing to a professional level.
I've come to realize that gear-wise, the lens is more important than the camera, and technique, practice, and passion will get us far.
As you said, the best camera for you is the one you have in your hand and you use.
Great advice in these videos, thanks for sharing!
I’m an old retired guy who take pictures as a hobby. I use an OM 1 Micro 4/3 camera. I was first attracted to the system for its size, weight, and quality for price. Also, the image stabilization is amazing. For wildlife I have the Olympus 100-400. It’s amazingly compact for its focal length range. I, of course, have a couple bags of other lenses.
We live in good times with all the great camera technology out there, and RUclips has made learning so much easier. Thank you for all the great content you’ve given us.
Old retired guy here too, and I agree with you about the great technology and the benefits of RUclips. This morning I learned a bit more about sensor sizes and some of the settings on my camera while watching videos and priming my pump with coffee. And I learned from one guy up in Canada and another down in Australia. Amazing times.
Small, old lady, loving my OM-1 paired with the 40-150 pro, sometimes with the 2x extender.
It reaches far, is weather sealed, small, light. It's the right choice for me. We live in an amazing time where these choices exist and we can all take advantage of it!
I am in the same boat Ed. 64, some shoulder issues and hands not as steady as they used to be. I went the same road but with the Lumix but we are on the same page including the 100-400 handheld.
I am with you
I truly wish that I could join you on the trip next year. Love your photos, videos and the way you explain, and share, your knowledge! Thank you Simon!
extremely helpful and clear. Thank you as i venture back into my journey into photography after a 40year hiatus !
Finally someone said it correctly. I love the fact you do understand both the physics aspects and art of taking photos. I would maybe mention that to simulate same crop you have to have "shorter" lens on your crop sensor - therefore the distortion introduced will be different.
I do family photos, some landscapes and a bit of street. Now with 80D and 18-135 lens. But know internally that my go-to these days would be R5 and RF 24-240 just to have all-in-one package ready to do everything anytime
I am using a couple of Lumix GX8s (micro 4/3) for hobbyist wildlife and landscape photography, the light weight makes it practical to carry 2 of them with different lenses. An undocumented "feature" is that no-one takes much notice of a "toy" camera.
9:58 is the example & explanation I've been trying to find for years. Thank you!
Found your channel and love it for clear reasons: 1. You are smart, know the tech and are not afraid to talk about it on a high level. Astro stuff included. 2. The pacing of your videos are up-tempo and information packed. Keep it fast and dense. Love the channel.
Really good video; very clear and understandable...thank you! I am a MFT user. I used to use APSC, but even that was too big and heavy for me now. I love the small form factor and the crop factor. I'm less concerned about the low light performance and though lovely FF blurry backgrounds are incredibly beautiful, I am willing to sacrifice it for those other features.
I started in photography with a sony a7r3 and a 16/35gm in which I exclusively do landscape photography. I do mountaineering and I go to places difficult to reach and high, and the sony in a snow storm suddenly turned off. Since then I sold my sony a6600 and bought the OM1 with the 12/40proII 2.8 and with its 50 megapixel handheld photography it does not detract at all in landscape photography, I also use it in macro with the 60mm and the new 90mm macro, and with the price of a 600 mm in ff buy the 40/150 pro and the 100/400 from Olympus. Nobody disputes the quality of FF but my om1 has been with me in very hostile places, snow storms, rain, at Montblanc, at the Gran Paradiso, etc... and it has never failed me. I barely use my Sony camera anymore. With the weight of this and two objectives I carry a camera and four Olympus objectives.
Excellent topic Simon, thank you. I have a Canon SL3 with the APS-C, 24 MP sensor. An entry level DSLR camera, that provides everything I need to enjoy photographing just about anything I choose. I've also resurrected my Canon A1, and rediscovered my joy with B & W film photography (from 40 yrs. ago). It's all about the fun we create for ourselves, that is important. I appreciate your videos as they help to explore & develop one's personal creativity, regardless of skill level or equipment.
I've just recently gotten into photography and your videos have helped me LOADS. I really appreciate the time and effort put into each video and the spectacular editing that you do on them. Keep up the great work.
This is probably the best - and most concise video I've seen on this subject! I like to shoot full frame and crop sensor - it just depends on circumstances! Thanks for another great video.
Another great video. I went M 4/3 (Lumix G9) when I got back into photography 2 years ago. I did spend the $ to go with a few of the higher-quality Leica lenses. I like the lower weight factor due to some rotator cuff issues. I do miss the nighttime shots but with sports, street and wildlife photography as my main hobby, I'm very happy with my choice. I appreciate the fact you presented this in a non-judgemental way of comparing the variety of types of cameras. It is fun to shoot with the smaller, shorter M4/3 lens and have others look at you and wonder what you're shooting with when it is so much smaller than the full frame lens.
Thank you. One of the best videos on this topic.
I too have a Canon 7Dmkii and Canon M50 and absolutely love them. Travelled the world with them and shot everything from wildlife to cityscapes, landscapes, concerts and weddings.
The issue is not the sensor, it is people not understanding the different sensor types and how to get the best out of them, and not being prepared with the correct equipment for what they are doing
I am a professional multimedia guy at a local university and this was a nice refresher, details escape me over time. Appreciate your education!
Absolutely wonderful explanation, thank you ! So nice that you cleary understand the technology as well as its application. The organization and delivery of knowledge is perfectly paced. Its clear you put considerable thought and work into this. Thank you !
Finally, a video that delivers the information I need without hype and glitz. Thank you!
Love the information. One thing that is great about new features for post processing is you can adjust and manipulate different factors of an image that takes away the need for some of the hardware we would need for those purposes. I bought a crop sensor camera in 2018 and have shot everything and made a business with that one camera. All the new updates to lightroom and photoshop have expanded how easily and quickly I can get very creative. And have my work stand out without buying expensive equipment. All I have is 3 lenses, 2 powerful strobes and 3 modifiers. And a 6 year old camera. And my customers are always blown away by my work. All thanks to post processing. I never feel bad standing next to someone with a full frame camera and 20k worth of lenses.
Thank you for all your hard work the benefits we are getting from all of your videos are highly appreciated.
Your 10:28 - 10:40 explanation is what really made me retained both of my ff and C years ago.
Be blessed and be a blessing!
I wish I found your channel 13 years ago when I started photography. Everything is explained so clearly with no fuss and complicated theory, exactly what a beginner needs (needed in my case). Keep up the great work. Merci Simon!
I’ve only been at it 10 months! haha
You're a natural teacher. Thanks so much. I've been using a crop sensor for years (portability) but have been thinking about full frame. I have a trip to Alaska next year and would love to have a crop sensor on one hip and a full frame / travel tripod on the other. I guess you always want what you don't have.
Glad it was helpful!
You made a brutal clarification, loved it! A hug from Portugal
This is the best video I seen that explains the differences and how everything works in a great way. Especially correctly explaining why there is DOF difference - especially with all the misconceptions that people tend to say.
It's always nice to see someone explaining this in an honest manner and cutting through the bad info that has been spread for years. I think the DOF issue is such a big one that lingers out there.
The DoF arguments may be the best illustration of people's failure to understand the whole process. Any given lens produces the exact same image regardless of what's behind it. It's the choices of where to shoot from, what settings to use, and how to crop the image that determine the things so many people claim are caused by the sensor.
I use M4/3. After having used it as an amature for 10 years I don't think I would change. The small form factor, low cost and features that exceed my skill level make it a really good fit for me.
Would it be good for nature/landscape photography?
While not something I do I have heard it is good for wild life photography. I enjoy hiking/biking/kayaking and the weight and size difference has grown in importance to me over the years. Most lens will fit one to a coat or cargo pants pocket and the body is small enough that with a 20mm (40mm equivalent) prime lens it is very compact and portable (It almost fits in my coat pocket). All this means that I can carry a couple of lenses and the camera on my person without an extra bag or with a small bag at worst. As for quality I have printed my photos as large as 16x20(inches) and they look really good. I could go bigger also but never have needed to. If you are new to photography I would probably recommend you go with a m4/3 over a more expensive platform until you know what you features are most important to you but your mileage may vary.
What a great video! I love the precision, clarity and comprehensibility of all your videos, Simon, not to mention the way you encourage and give novices (like me) confidence. You simplify complicated phenomena without sacrificing accuracy - this one in particular sorted out several misconceptions for me. Thank you!
Hi, such great clarity in your help videos. Has inspired me to get out shooting again here in Devon UK. Thank you.
Many presenters on RUclips offer information and opinions with a clear bias. Yours do not, which is something I appreciate. Your presentation on sensor size is a perfect example of your objective approach. You did not, for instance, immediately inform us that bigger is better as some presenters do. Instead, you provided the viewers with relevant information, contextualized it and then left it us to us to decide. Bravo!
Appreciate that
I use full frame that allows me to switch to crop sensor mode so I get the ability to use both in one body.
This is brilliantly explained, thanks so much!
Love your channel! Quality content presented with clarity and reason. It is clear that you care about photography much more than about sponsorships or things like that.
Awesome video ! As an amateur enthusiast, I went the M4/3 route for size so traveling was much easier. I also got a M4/3 with weather sealing and a fair bit of pro features like focus stacking. This is the best photography channel, keep up the great content !!
Thanks for sharing!
I have a Lumix GX8 (micro 4/3) that I use for bird photography with a Panasonic/Leica 100-400 lens. With the crop factor the effective focal length is 200-800, and it’s MUCH smaller than the 500 mm lens that Simon showed (much cheaper too, probably). The nicest part is that the OIS on the lens works with the OIS on the camera to practically eliminate camera shake, so I can shoot with a shoulder stock.
@@timmotz2827 I have the same lens I use on my Olympus/OM System bodies and it's jaw-dropping to see that incredibly large 500mm lens Simon uses. I can't imagine lugging that around on a hike for nature photography.
@@gregfeeler6910 Well, he's younger than me and probably in much better shape. 🙂
I once knew a sports photographer who worked carrying two large Nikon bodies with very large telephotos on them draped around his neck. he would shoot handheld and always got awesome images. He was actually a fairly small guy, but again, probably in much better shape.
Would it be good for landscape photography in nature?
Awesome take on the topic! I like you don't choose one sensor in the end of the video as most people do. I personally switched from Canon Fullframe to Lumix M43. For example, I have an optically perfect Leica 200/2.8 paired with 1.4x TC, reaching almost 600 mm with the crop factor. Paired with the Lumix G9, the whole setup is weather sealed. It's an extremely good build quality, and all for a fracture of a FF lens + body price. Another great portrait / product lens is Leica 42,5/1.2 which is an absolute treasure for me. There might be quite a noise issue on the higher ISO, but there are many brands as Topaz Labs so I can easily crop it, denoise it, then enlarge it. Or I can also use the 80Mpx mode on the Lumix G9 which really allows me to crop deep in the picture. I'm currently saving up for the new OM 90/3.5 macro which gets up to 2:1 magnification (not 4:1 as often wrongly mentioned), weather sealed, with AF so I can do bracketing right in the camera... I'm happy with this system and that's the most important thing. :-)
All necessary information, succinctly put as always. Thank you keep up the great work.
Thanks for that! I started out with a Nikon D7200 but bought lenses for a full frame camera. When I finally moved up to a full frame D780 I was surprised and mildly disappointed that my reach was diminished with my lenses. To regain that reach I sometimes set the D780 to the smaller DX crop size. Now I know why the images were not as sharp as I had hoped. I'm glad I didn't sell the D7200. It still has a purpose.
I have the Canon 90D. Crop-sensor with 32 MP. Sometimes I see people mentioning that so many megapixels on a smaller sensor can make it harder for some lenses to resolve enough resolution for that sensor. I mostly shot with EF-S 10-18 (got the 10-22 as well, but a bit bigger) and EF 24-105 f4 IS II. Daily photos when walking is shot with my iphone 14 pro. I like playing around with it in different settings to find situations where it’s useful and when less so.
Very well done as usual Sir!!👏
This is the holy grail of Full frame vs Crop sensor videos. Very clear, no guesswork, on point with reasoning.
RUclips should save the whole channel at all costs.
Keep it coming. You're much needed here!!
I myself was confused and thought that full frame is the best for everything. I thought the crops are so inferior and as a newbie I thought I must buy a full frame to start with for my casual travel pics to look good. But, today I learnt that I was wrong big time.
That said the Full frame cameras are coming down in price now. So they are both quite accessible now.
Content is KING: Your dialog is for learning, your presentation is A++ teacher....a winning combination. I love to learn from you, just like others have said. Me, I am a situational photographer. I see it, I take it, I make sure to sell it. My camera of choice: Fuji X T-5 with 35mm 1.4; 70-300 with 1.4 teleconverter; 16-80mm ; 30mm 2.8 macro. I often go back and relisten so I can absorb more...thank you.
Great video, it reminds me that back in the 90's, when I was working on machine vision systems for robotics applications, I got chatting to a Photographer who was disappointed with his Digital Cameras. After years of only using 35mm kit, and getting pretty comfortable with it, he didn't like having to rethink almost everything he did, when using his digital cameras. He couldn't re-use the lenses for his film cameras on his digital camera bodies and expect the same results, every combination had to be thought about.
He asked when the industry would start producing digital cameras with sensors the same size as 35mm film, and I couldn't answer. At the time, the largest sensors I'd worked with were 3/4", but I had researched a 1" square sensor (which used a pair of piezo cells to physically nudge the die, to quadruple the effective resolution) and explained how much more expensive that was. I could explain how silicon lithography processes worked though, and how expensive, relatively speaking, such a large 'chip' would be, and how the likelihood of a single defect ruining a whole sensor die would push up the price even more, but I had no idea that it would take a decade before these problems were solved well enough that full frame cameras would hit the mainstream.
Hello and thank you for an informative compilation of "pros" and "cons" for sensor sized cameras. I have two crop sensor cameras: a Canon APS-C 80D and an Olympus OMD-E1 MkIII. I don't use a full frame camera, not because of it's features, but because of it's weight. I am losing my arm strength due to a very old war injury, so carrying a heavy lens+camera is not possible. I would love to be able to carry and use the larger sized sensor cameras just as you do. I am both a nature and astrophotographer as you. Your work and your RUclips tutorials and information is excellent.
I love learning about my gear an you information helps so much to better understand. Thank you for your great videos and explanations. Your very good at this. Keep it up.
Brilliant, thank you. I have just discovered your channel and was so impressed with your clear, concise explanation of all aspects of the differences. Having migrated from full frame Nikons to APS-C Fuji and also MFT with Panasonic bodies, this video clarified a few doubts for me. I have subscribed and will be catching up on all of your previous videos. Keep up the great work.👍
Full frame is definitely better, I used to think that I'd never own a FF camera because of how good the cropped sensors were, but I was wrong. Granted, I probably couldn't have afforded a full frame sensor anyways, but you get a tremendous amount of flexibility when you have a FF sensor to work with. You can downsize things a bit for noise reduction, or you can crop it at amounts between 1.x and the typical 1.6x that cropped sensors tend to be. And you generally just have more pixels to work with.
This is true. I was m4/3 for 10 years. I upgraded to FF a few months ago and the differences are astounding. Sad thing is that my old 4/3 gear went straight to the garbage. Nobody is going to want to spend more than a few dollars for used m4/3 gear - used market is weak.
Brilliant lecture about Pros and Cons of different sensor sizes! Agree with every point you make Simon! I changed several times from mFT to full frame and back again. Three years ago I settled for Nikon's Z full frame system, and I am happy in every respect. Image quality is definetely better, which is important in landscape photography. I also can transform the full frame camera into an APS-C camera by cropping the files (DX- mode), which stretches the reach of my lenses.
Excellent
That is an excellent explanation of all the facets of sensor size. Thank you.
Wow! This was amazingly informative Simon, yet easy to follow and quickly understand the differences between a full-frame and a crop sensor camera. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video!
Simon, not sure you'll see this but its worth the effort. Of all the channels I scour to master the craft, you have some of the most illusory videos here, so thank you for your efforts.
I'm a Director and DP in LA, and have been committed to the craft for over 15 years now, and I'm still learning.
My mom is an amatuer wildlife photographer, and in the last 10 years, has progressed far enough that her photos outshine anything I could hope to capture. Im going to show her your channel tomorrow so that she has you a resource, as well as myself. You give us the information we need.
Very welcome!
I so much look forward to seeing your videos each week! Please keep them coming. And thank you.
Thank you! Will do!
Wow, finally I found someone who explains things in a simple but professional way. Thank you, I have become a big fan of yours after only two videos! Keep up the good work.
Wow, thanks!
I've been watching your videos for about a month now. You have upped my game already with all your tips. I'm about to move up to a new camera from my Nikon B500, which has served me well and given me some great pictures. I just never knew which way to go. I love doing wildlife and historic sites and want to get into night sky photography. Thanks for all the info on sensors and lenses.
APS-C works fine for me for all the reasons you mentioned - size, weight, cost, and what I use my photography for as an amateur hobbyist. I always enjoy the combination of your narrative and illustration that results in those AHA! moments, even for subjects we have read about and listened to others talk about many times! Great teaching! Thanks!
if you have great light all the time or use flash theyre fine but in low light and high iso theyre garbage.. also i have a newer one and it wont use full frame lenses.. it adds a ring around the picture digitally so it doesnt work.. a crop sensor should be able to use a full frame lens but this one seriously adds a black ring.. thats only supposed to happen if you use a crop sensor lens on a full frame.. and it also wont let me dial in 1/3 stop isos.. wtf..
Lol haha. Not all apsc sensors all garbage. Also panasonic lumix gh6 M4/3 has really good low light performance..
hello lady, i dont know alot about camera technics, but maybe you can help me out, i have an old Sony 1200mm zoom camera but i want to replace it with a Canon APS-C sensor, which is bigger than the small Sony sensor, the Sony can zoom out quit far, but can i also zoom out far with the Canon fixed lens because of the bigger lens, wider depth?
@@commendatore2516 I'm actually not that knowledgeable on cameras and lenses so I would suggest you ask Simon!
Nice video Simon!
The same way in which crop is better for wildlife photography, fullframe is better for almost all other everyday genres including landscapes where we need wide to normal focus ranges. I mean a lot of people after playing with telephoto for some time understand that most of everyday pictures are located within wide and normal ranges. On the other hand for landscapes with crop it's usually enough to set f=8-11 in most situation, but in FF you need to choose between not enough DOF (8) and difraction losses (16-22), if I remember correctly (not an active photographer last few years), so it's always a hard choice.
Anyway I think for some people (including me) FF is just need-to-reach achievement just to experience how it feels to use 35mm, as for many years before the digital era comes :)
So glad to have found your channel! No nonsense and practical advice. Thank you Simon!
Thank you, this video is the best I have seen yet at explaining the differences, I shoot with both full-frame and micro 4/3
Amazing explanation!!
Just a couple more points I would like to add. The reading speed of the small sensors can be faster, so the fps in photography can be faster (up to 60fps with exposure and focus and 120 fps fixed in the OMSystem flagship) AND how much easier it is to stabilize the smaller sensor just because the lower inertia moment and smaller dimensions
I would mention the Olympus (OM) is still capabable of 80MP with tripod and 50MP handheld in a compact lightweight package with class leading stabilization, all good stuff.