Roy said back in 2019: "These are the same players that threw Mourinho under the bus and they will exactly the same to Ole". Roy knew all along what would happen.
@@rafsimons9359 Rashford, De Gea, Shaw, Lindelof, Mctominay, Fred, squad: Lingard, Martial, Mata, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Pogba, that almost the whole squad, from Mourinho's era to Solskjaer's era, so pretty much, the bulk of the squad is the same
Jose mourinho explaining the difference between united and Liverpool a day before getting sacked "Robertson is fantastic. I'm still tired from watching him run. Then . Mane. Salah. Keita They are physical players. On the top of that they are good players technically I also have good players technically in my team but we don't have many players with that level of intensity so when the game is high level of intensity for us it becomes difficult. Then united has a massive problem with football identity since 5 years. For example You can compare my porto team with Liverpool. It's basically the same identity. It was my best team in defensive transition we lose the ball we BITE like mad dogs and we recover the ball after 2 seconds. In inter milan I had my best team in a defensive low block. In real madrid I had my best team in direct counter attack with young ozil. Young di maria. Young Ronaldo and young benzema we killed everybody in offensive transition so players make team play in different ways but at united it's very difficult to get any specific system through to some people and that's a mentality problem "
Part of that was Jose's fault. He never implemented or tried a style that was intense and full of running. We were at the bottom in terms of distance covered and Ole changed that right away which caused injuries because the players were not prepared for that kind of pressing or running.
Absolute rubbish ..... one good performance in the year and we are all supposed to be happy with that. What about Easter, Birthdays, baby showers .... I could go on and on. These reindeer have zero work ethic are gonna end up throwing Santa under the bus.
@@LynkJDL1 yep and Rooney (who wouldnt be his best mate and didnt play that long with him) say he was the best passer of a ball hes played with in around the box. Rooney has played with some decent passers too including scholes, lampard n gerrard. I was surprised he admitted that but i always thought Keane was very underrated on the ball. Always played the right pass and if he lost it, he got it back!
United have a brilliant squad on paper. But football isn’t played on paper. Keane is correct, United lack characters, hunger, leadership, mental strength when it’s going against you. Without the ball they are awful. With the ball they can’t keep it, dominate or dictate play from midfield. They have relied on an individual like Ronaldo to dig them out. No pattern of play. No collective with or without the ball.
Yeah Cavani , Varane , Sancho , Ronaldo all a bunch of bums that don’t work right ? Can’t win anything with those guys . Fact is just like when Mourinho Chelsea quit player don’t want to play shite football and players give up running around when the system is set up to fail. There’s teams in the championship with great work rate , Ireland has incredible work rate do you fancy them against Germany ? This is professional football and if you ask Keane to study Klopp, Tuchel and Pep and ask him if they are good managers or tactical geniuses and Pep is a technical genius and do they know exactly what they want to see and are choosing in players even when it doesn’t work out
@@Mr.A.. exactly on the whole it comes down to incompetent coaching, I hate this chat of, "not a great group of lads" we have CR7, varane, bruno all leaders even david de gea and non of these are even the captain
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 There may be a change with Woodward leaving soon. Woodward was the single biggest reason why United have failed so much in the last decade (although you could argue it's the Glazers, as they appointed Woodward in the first place..).
@@lukescovell8294 United demands better football than basically any other club thats the problem for people coming in. Part of the reason Ole fell to bits more was demanded of him after finishing 2nd.
Had to stop himself saying the top 3 a "brilliantly coached" first of all.... blaming players work ethic is lazy. Top coaches will drill their players to work hard, and if they don't those players don't make it. Roy and Gary will never say it how it was regarding Ole and his coaches. Scholes is the only one speaking truth!
Exactly. If this was Mourinho, Roy and Gary would’ve called for his head to be sacked. So easy to see that Ole got sacked because he was not good/ experienced enough to be a United manager. And the coaching staff were even worse. I’m just genuinely surprised so many people agree with Keane here lol
The players didn’t work hard under Lampard, the same players worked hard under Tuchel… it’s not the players, it’s the manager who gets his team to work hard.
Most of those Chelsea players played under conte or sarri, both had similar disciplined styles of play where as ole didn’t, tuchel hit the ground running where as united will struggle to begin with as did Liverpool
One of the main problems with united is we don't ever get rid of anyone deemed surplus to requirements, so the players that aren't performing know they can probably outlast the manager and just carry on doing what they want.
That's a glazer issue not a manager issue. We had Valencia for way too long yet no other rb. Owners don't think of long term development. We still play Wan Bisaka every game yet he's actually very young, and needs a more experienced rb taking over.
@@SardonischerDean I think the issue with awb is he's a defensive right back and all anyone talks about is how he needs to be better at attacking. How about we let him be the defensive beast that he used to look like, and have have another right back that is an attacking option. Trying to get him to be an attacker has ruined his game imo.
Jimmy is correct. We've got to stick with it. It's most likely going to be painful in the beginning but we've got to stick with it because it's a clear plan, an ethos. These things generally aren't implemented overnight.
Exactly. Look how long it took Klopp and Pep to get Pool and City where they are. It may be a little quicker for us because of our squad but we have to be patient because our club is finally going to be run by a guy who knows what he’s doing.
@@vandal_dk tbf, Frank laid a lot of key foundations in his first season. Tuchel himself has admitted as much. Frank laid the puzzle pieces, Tuchel put them together
@@edderwright9042 But Pep was given everything he needed really quickly. United managers don’t get that luxury. I know United spend money but they have spent it poorly because they don’t have competent people running the club until Rangnick moves into that role but Ole and the board have left the club a mess so it could take some time.
Problem is Keane and Neville looked at the Ole situation through rose tinted glasses. He was their mate first and Manchester United manager second. If it was anyone else they would have thrown him under the bus a long time ago.
I love how rangnick thinks very highly on situations and how they react to them. Those “situations” are the little battles you have to win in these games to ultimately come out on top.
Compare Ralph speaks to ole it’s Laughable. He’s a real genius; Those stats are extremely impressive for someone who is more known as a Sporting Director. These players should be in for a rude awakening and they deserve it 👏👏👏👏
Overhyped, got to be a reason why no top team have gone in for him before. No manager has been able to get a shift out of these players and mourinho is known as a manager who expects allot
He talks well but delivery of his plans have always been mixed - very few trophies won when he was the coach & the Utd squad is riddled with players who simply don't want to press / don't want to play in the kind of system he prefers. I still say he's been brought in more for his director of football credentials - his record of setting up a youth system / talent pipeline is better than his record as a coach. His job this season is to steady the ship & his real job starts in the summer when he starts his advisory role.
@@daylebacchus5395 The video literally explains why he hasn't been poached for a top club..? watch the video pal, stop being so bias and negative just because you don't like united.
He said he hates square/back passes, Man utd defence is highly known for that, especially Maguire who often ends up messing it up by making the situation tight. Definitely we will get to see a change!
During SAF’s time the back passes were already there. Carrick was the inventor of this and I never been a fan of that. Redundant back passes and yet receives praise for supposedly one of the best holding midfielders of his generation lol
If it’s always the players fault and never the managers fault like these clowns are claiming then why are clubs even hiring managers and coaches in the first place?
You know they never said it was only the player's fault. But the fact remains that Man U players are quite lazy in recovering and defending the ball. Only maybe Scott and Wan Bissaka show some impetus in winning back the ball
@A I agree that the majority of the blame here lies with the coach. No doubt. But as I said the players must take some blame here. The defensive errors for example from Shaw and Maguire and the inability to just run and try win a ball has to an intrinsic thing. Put Kante in that team with the same level of coaching and he is still Kante trying to win the ball. That's what I'm trying to say. At some point you have to take responsibility as a player too.
That isn’t what they said lol they said they just said it in regards to United and it’s true really, if the United players had committed more to their past managers and worked harder, they may be in a better position. Very white collar culture in the club, that’s the problem.
Putting it down to not working hard enough as opposed to the CLEAR coaching deficiencies is awful analysis imo and another side of the defending the manager thing that Gary Neville does.
Keane has always had bad takes. And this is one of them. He just assumes way too much with an a lot of anger. When you’re angry and start assuming.. that’s a bad combination.
He did point out both aspects. Players don't stop working for no reason. Ole being too nice was mentioned. United having no shape was mentioned. It's no one thing. Keane is far better at making points about United than Neville is.
@@AJ-xv7oh That is literally part of the coaching, you think teams press more effectively and efficiently because they're just so passionate about the club, the coach instills that in the players on a daily basis, you think Bruno isnt passionate about United? Ronaldo just not passionate too I'm assuming
Absolutely spot on from Keane. No manager on earth is going to help united until certain players are gone. Very rarely more than 3 players at a time actually working in a game.
@@adrianboulter1906 What Pogba did during the Liverpool game probably damaged morale considerably. He should have apologised. I think Keane was pointing out his lack of work ethic for Man United back in 2019!
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 you specified that Keane was “pointing out his lack of work ethic for Man United back in 2019” - which is why I asked if you were suggesting his work ethic has improved at all, as im sure you can understand your point is a bit vague. If anything I’d say he’s gotten worse since 2019.
@@adrianboulter1906 He’s gonna leave for free to a place of his choosing in the summer, what do you mean get rid? Funny you mugs never say anything about Maguire. You criticize Pogba for his hair, not the guy (captain) getting drunk and arrested on vacation. Foden does his hair all fancy and everyone supports it, when it’s Pogba he gets hate.
Keane doesn't throw managers under the bus. Before Ole was sacked many were trolling Keane and Gary for sticking with Ole even when everyone else wanted him gone. Bet you were one of those who trolled them for sticking up for their mate
It's true that some of the players are not UTD level but they would have performed much better if the coaches had some clue as organize the team. Ole did a good job as a mentor and spokesperson but as a coach/manager he was a flop. I don't think any top team would ever hire Ole as their manager.
Of course not, and this is why I have little sympathy for Ole. I cannot think of any other manager who benefitted from as much nostalgic nepotism as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, and I really do not believe that any other manager would have been allowed to stay in their job after the Liverpool disaster.
He said the same thing when Jose was sacked. Shows it’s not the managers fault. Cos he said it here about Ole and now they have done the same with Ten Hag
Refuses to "tell it like it is" when it comes to his boy Ole. I can agree that this united team is not good enough in particular a class cdm but I mostly blame Ole for much of their struggles. Ole just isn't good enough and had lost most of the locker room for some time now. United doesnt have an identity so how can you expect the players to execute well?
Keane said last year that Lampard gets away with a lot because he's English yet Ole outlasted him by a year. Ole had a higher gross and net spend than Frank at the time the latter was sacked while he'd also had to deal with losing Hazard amidst a 1 year transfer ban. Despite this, sacking him was the right thing to do as evidenced by Chelsea's performances since. Sancho's goal yesterday was the 5th Leagues goal they conceded all season, for context, United conceded that many at home to Liverpool
Jamie points out an important factor. Several United players will struggle with this high tempo game! Injuries might increase in the short term (and results may suffer). Some players are not going to be successful. If the interim and long term manager have similar philosophies then you can implement the plan properly. And Jimmy said.... you have to stick with it !
Carra right when Klopp took over we suffered a lot of Injuries and also a few players can't adapt. Its a lot to ask a club to change to a new style in 6 months
Its one thing been able to run, but most of these players cant give a simple pass! Shocking really. I keep hearing about the quality of the squad. Not sure people actually watch these players. They cant keep the ball playing at a slow tempo so no chance if thats increased. They need a player that can control a game too. Im hoping VDB is given that role and Bruno dropped.
Disagree with Roy to an extent . Ole has a big squad ,but he played the same players week in week out.. If the players weren't doing their job, he could have replaced them ,but never did .
Roy is right tbh and you are because Ole was too nice to those players. If I was the manager I would driven out Lindelof and Pogba out of the team two years ago. Also would apply extra discipline on Maguire, Rashford, Martial, McTominay and Shaw. Sold Mata and Matic
Exactly. Mourinho who won 2 trophies with United with a far weaker squad, was thrown under the bus I’ll admit but not Ole. Man Utd was a step too far for him. This is a guy who couldn’t even manage at Cardiff City. How was he then going to be a success at one of the greatest clubs in the world. He should try get a job managing Sheffield United, Birmingham or some random other Championship team and try gain more experience.
@@accountuser5588 spot on. I always liked mourinho but the fan channels and the pundits hated him. I’ll never understand why these rich owners don’t listen to the experts like jose. Ole was treated like a god while he was at United and he didn’t win anything. Unbelievable 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Manchester United players are over paid beyond their abilities. Their high pay also makes them too comfortable to work their socks off as there is no further reward for them to perform more. The only way out is really to revamp the squad with new and younger, hungrier players who do not command a high wage. The rest will have to leave as they will not take a hit to stay on.
Spot on. Said it for two years, the failings of the players' commitment & efforts have been enabled by the very top at this club for far too long & the fans don't help matters either always making excuses for certain players who just aren't delivering to a standard their talent should dictate. Mediocrity has not only been accepted at United, it's been rewarded.
@@NoirFan84 Rashford has spent more time doing charities than actually challenging himself on the pitch because Ole made all these players comfortable.
They turned from a club of champions to a welfare club that feeds the subpar and the useless of the footballing world. For Heaven's sake, Phil Jones is still there. PHIL JONES.
They surely did, he is always going to be a legend of the club while being respect. Apart from Ronaldo and De Gea , I don’t rate any current united players. They pathetic using social media to hide their lack of sportsmanship. They make me sick
The current top managers are brilliant tacticians and driven people, Tuchel is obsessive about his training concepts. The days when an ex player with a bit of 'know how' steps into the role of manager are long gone. It's a lot more than just 'running'.
I really like the fact that Carrick was brave enough to bench CR7, no player has the right to feel that he must play in any club, OGS lacked this courage.
Listening to Roy Keane’s opinion, I suddenly remembered how he threw the national team and coach Mick McCarthy under the bus just before the 2002 World Cup.
Listening to roy Keane exclusively berating the players for lack of effort when they have clearly been terribly coached as well particularly tactically is getting tiring. Admit that the tactics have been dire as well.
Utd fan here, love keanu but i'd disagree with him here. It became more and more apparent that there was a lack of a game plan. Bruno running around like a headless chicken by himself trying to press was a HUGE testament of lack of a playing style. You can have world class players but without a game plan they will struggle regardless. ROY has to stop comparing his time at United to the present.
never understood why whenever a manager gets sacked the media accuse the players for 'throwing the manager under bus' as if players actually step out onto the pitch and don't want to win, they are pro ballers and anyone who knows what it takes to make it pro in ball knows that's not in their dna, players will almost always try to win and give a good account of themselves, ogs wasn't getting the best out of the squad and that's that
This is what Keane does berates people all the time and people say Keane is the greatest commentator of all time, but in reality all he does is ranting without suggesting how to improve players. Keane can never be a good manager period
🤣🤣🤣 Bring the youth in and the ones who really want to win will be ok, the rest can jog on, because that's exactly what they've been doing anyway 'jogging'.
@@skidan4real exactly. There's so much unmoulded youth who he can drill this into because they don't have ego's and just want a chance. He can grow them instead of the clowns.
Nonsense. I would hazard a guess that he influenced both their team selection and tactics today and guess what - it got them a point at the Bridge. If Rangnick starts getting more results, the dressing room will very much swing in his favour
Roy is right, what’s the point of kissing Ole’s backside when it’s because of your lack of effort and work rate that played a huge part (Ole Obviously has to take blame as well) for the reason he was sacked. Save it for someone who cares PRashford
It’s hard to direct effort when you are getting outplayed by better systems. They can try as hard as they want but if it’s not organised against a well run premier league side then it won’t end well
@@DownloadARevolt20 don't think there was any player power involved cuz the players were pretty happy with ole as manager..if there was, such things get leaked usually, y'know
Players have to take some blame. You can have any manager in charge if the players dont work hard enough it won't work. Guadiola, Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, all their teams work hard and do the defensive side too.
Let's face it..Ole was practically doing his job for 20 percent of his time at Utd...and saving his job for 80% of it.. McFred became his go to...his identity...but that wasnt his plan..else why sell Herrera who was better at the job then others.. He had a vision of a fast fluid front 3 but it never came together due to Rashford's injuries and Martial's lazyness..else why would he have sold Lukaku.. I hope he finds a small club with lesser expectations and actually builds on his career!
Not even a United fan but this is actually getting out of order. Actual LEGENDS of the club still publicly sticking all the blame on players and not their mate who was really really poor must leave a proper sour taste in mouths over there. It's no wonder everyone's mocking you all. Glory glory man yanited, aye?
United never needed a goal-machine upfront. They had scored 73 Premier League goals last season 5 more than Liverpool and 15 more than Chelsea on their way to a second placed finish. The forwards were doing a good job. Jadon Sancho’s arrival for £73 million in the summer addressed the right-wing issue and Solskjaer’s rebuild looked only a midfielder away. Someone of Declan Rice’s skill-set to reach the next level. Enter Ronaldo, and it created a tactical conundrum. Stats put out by United’s official app show that in 14 matches, Ronaldo went for a tackle only once and has won just 26 out of 54 duels. In the autumn of his career, the Portuguese star became United’s focal point at the expense of the team’s high-press. It also shifted Mason Greenwood to the right flank from a central position and sent Sancho to the bench. Without high-press, a sub-par United midfield became even more exposed and the defence wilted under pressure as a trickle-down effect. As per stats, United conceded 0.6 goal per game from open play during the 2019-20 season. Last term it was 0.7. Post-Ronaldo, it has already risen to two goals per game. As much as Ronaldo's lack of defensive contribution, it was also down to Solskjaer's coaching staff, who failed to find a system that fitted the five-time Ballon d'Or winner.
Roy Keane's assessment of the problems at Man Utd "they're not good enough lads". Amazing Roy, shocked that they haven't offered you an 8 year contract to take it on.
So the Manchester sporting directors wanted high work rate and high pressure when off the ball football, yet they spend a massive amount on Ronaldo. They are literally making it up as they're going.
If the players fall out with the manager/coach they just play like a Sunday league pub team and the club owner's get a new manager/coach. It happens all the time but no one sees the writing on the wall.
Always a pleasure when someone of his calibre is cutting through all the bullshit. He always does it and one must not always agree but really rather often.
Interesting how Keane makes the point that Ronaldo (amongst others) needs to start running and closing down yet made the exact opposite point in the heated discussion with Carragher after the Chelsea game.
He is just scapegoating the players. Players don't have an infinite career. They can't afford to keep a man who is clearly not good enough in a job just because the owners are too stubborn to accept it. They already kept him in a job he couldn't do and didn't deserve for 3 YEARS and yet its still their fault they don't throw away more precious years of their career? Honestly ole must have something on his former teammates.
still can't admit that Ole wasn't a good enough manager and that the coaches were also out of their depth. These people employed by the club have spent 400 Million on players the last 3 seasons. Why has Gary Neville and Roy Keane still got a job/platform as pundits
The players played individually for two seasons, they hit a bad spell of form this season and needed the managers tactics and coaching staff to help them defend leads, breakdown teams etc. but nah all Roy sees is players throwing a manager under the same bus they have been driving for two seasons whilst Ole collected money at the door. Spoken like a failed management Roy!
I've got a feeling that this Ragnick fella is gonna end up getting the permanent job. He might not have won a lot up to now, but as you can see with his 2 students, the style of football he's taught them to play, that style is what's winning things in England right now. One thing that's for certain, by the end of the season, we'll find out why he's not won trophies
his 2 students according to an interview , where he said it himself and he flattered himself a lot in that interview. hope he does well to steer the ship but he is being over hyped lol
Rangnicks CV is rubbish.. and when did he take a small village of 3 thousand from the third tier to the Bundesliga? This expert on German football seems to have made that up
reminds me of a story on a Belgian footballer who became coach of the team he played the year before, and on the first training his former teammate, roommate even called him by his first name and he responded with "it's coach now"
It wasn't supposed to be like this. When Ole first took over from Mourinho he was shocked at how unfit the players were. Van Gaal had set up systems to monitor player fitness and Mourinho basically got rid of it and largely relied on older experienced players to get results. So Ole in the first few months as interim manager basically put the players through intense preseason-style training. He tried to get them fitter, he tried to get them running more. He wanted a high pressing, quick team. If you remember, at the end of that season, after going on a great winning run, they started losing again and this was because the players were essentially burned out. Ole pushed them far beyond what they'd done under Jose and it was too much for them. Ole wanted to play fast paced attacking football with high pressing. In his first full season though United had a huge problem with creativity. Pogba has been injured for large parts of Ole's reign and in his first full season he had to play Pereira as a 10 until Bruno came in the following January. United at the time were also strongest on the counter attack. Ole was trying to transition the team towards a more possession based side, rather than relying on quick counter attacks. Again, he wanted to hold possession and build with the ball and press high without the ball. In his second full season, he started trying to fully implement the possession football but then Spurs slapped United with 6 goals on the same day Liverpool shipped 7 to Villa (such a weird day) and I think that spooked Ole. Pogba was injured AGAIN and so he resorted to sticking with Fred and McTominay, fearful of being exposed at the back because United's defence was slow and ponderous. Then you get to this season. United needed a defender, a midfielder and a winger. They got two of the three. Ole also wanted an attacking right back but that didn't happen. He did get Ronaldo though which, while not part of this season's plan, did fill a future quota of getting a striker (he wanted Haaland next year but Ronaldo gave him the opportunity to have two world class goalscorers and hopefully develop Greenwood). But not getting that midfielder was a huge mistake. Couple that with Varane's injuries, Maguire and Shaw's fall off in form and Sancho taking time to integrate and suddenly Ole's initial plan, his vision for a quick, pressing, attacking side was out the window and it all fell apart from there. Ole started at United wanting a team that pressed hard and out ran and out worked everybody. He ended with a team that did none of that and you have to wonder, how much of it was circumstances beyond his control, how much of it was poor coaching and how much of it was the players not being able, or worse, willing to work hard?
Blame the players but they have not been getting coached...and its more so that the board threw Ole under the bus... because he has said countless times he doesn't do the coaching but the coaching staff are still here since Ole's sacking. The manager, the staff all not good enough. But yes the players will have to work hard now under Rangnick and hopefully his own coaching staff.
Still comes back to the manager though if the squad don't work hard enough or have the right character. This was very much Ole's squad in his third year. The Glazers and board are still to blame ultimately for Utd's failings but the performances came back to Ole and his staff. Rangnick will come in and clear out the deadwood, get the right players in either in January or have them lined up for the summer, regardless of whether he stays as manager or goes upstairs. You can't underestimate what having a clear idea does for a top team. Utd used to have it with Fergie and Gill and City, Liverpool and Chelsea currently have it with their setups. There's no reason why Utd shouldn't return to the level those three clubs are currently at if they allow this guy to take control of the sporting side. Everything else about the club is in place to succeed on the commercial side, it's the footballing side that's been neglected for years and years with the Glazers banker mates pretending they know how to run a football club.
Maybe, just maybe, Ole didn't know what the hell he was doing! Sick and tired of hearing Roy regurgitating the same diatribe about players throwing managers under the bus when it was painfully obvious from the beginning that Ole was way out of his depth. Everyone can identify once having a manager or supervisor at work whose naivety and incompetence causes chaos and instability, that was Ole.
All comes down to coaching. Blaming players is too easy. If theres no ideas or structure on the pitch and from the manager then no player will buy into that. Keane just needs to relaxx
Keane is spot on. These players don't sprint back to defend. I thought I was the only person who realized this. The same can be said about PSG. That is why city always win they sprint back.
Ole wasn't good enough, simple as, you can call the players lazy etc but the management had alot to be desired. United were never ever gonna win anything under Ole. This is just Roy Keane sticking up for his mate instead kf saying Ole was useless.
Rangnick is a good manager if he has a young team. He plays high pressing football and expects his players to play with pace and intensity. Can your really see the like of Ronaldo, Bruno or Cavani really doing that?
They will not play under Ralph. He will get younger players in and keep Sancho, Beek and a few others. Haaland should be a perfect fit for his style. United could become a young exciting team to watch in 2022/23.
So Ole buys his own players, changes the team, and it still the players fault? The team he started against Liverpool and man City had all HIS PLAYERS. From maguire, to Bruno to AWB. All of them let him down too! He's simply not a good enough coach and his philosophy is outdated. Keane is a terrible football manager and I'm not sure why this passion merchant is valued as a pundit. Everything is passion with him, the German managers are running the show with INTELECT and PHILOSOPHY while these guys continue with their passion talk.
what i think paints the perfect image of United is when a player is dispossessed or loses the ball, said player often will seem like he's having a strop, throwing arms up or huffing a puffing. Not anger and hunger to get that ball back immediately. Its crazy seeing these players at top top level doing EXACTLY what i was told NOT to do when i was 8! It's definitely not lack of talent lets be honest
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Roy said back in 2019: "These are the same players that threw Mourinho under the bus and they will exactly the same to Ole". Roy knew all along what would happen.
Ole and his staff were also to blame though.
Half of the starting 11 weren't there when Mourinho was sacked, the blame must be placed on the coaching.
@@rafsimons9359 Rashford, De Gea, Shaw, Lindelof, Mctominay, Fred, squad: Lingard, Martial, Mata, Jones, Bailly, Matic, Pogba, that almost the whole squad, from Mourinho's era to Solskjaer's era, so pretty much, the bulk of the squad is the same
@@monzy- Nope.
@@AJ-xv7oh you cant just type nope. Give a valid reason why not
Jose mourinho explaining the difference between united and Liverpool a day before getting sacked
"Robertson is fantastic. I'm still tired from watching him run. Then . Mane. Salah. Keita They are physical players. On the top of that they are good players technically I also have good players technically in my team but we don't have many players with that level of intensity so when the game is high level of intensity for us it becomes difficult.
Then united has a massive problem with football identity since 5 years. For example You can compare my porto team with Liverpool. It's basically the same identity. It was my best team in defensive transition we lose the ball we BITE like mad dogs and we recover the ball after 2 seconds.
In inter milan I had my best team in a defensive low block.
In real madrid I had my best team in direct counter attack with young ozil. Young di maria. Young Ronaldo and young benzema we killed everybody in offensive transition so players make team play in different ways but at united it's very difficult to get any specific system through to some people and that's a mentality problem "
Part of that was Jose's fault. He never implemented or tried a style that was intense and full of running.
We were at the bottom in terms of distance covered and Ole changed that right away which caused injuries because the players were not prepared for that kind of pressing or running.
Inconvenient truth
@@D3_XT3R imao pressing is not the only way. Ole can't even suck Jose's feet he's so worse
But Jose was given money to make singing tho.
Jose always has excuses everywhere he goes, I wont take him seriously.
Santa: _delivers gifts to all the children in the world_
Keane: ‘That’s his job!’
"Santa Claus? Christmas? Do me a favor!!"
--Roy Keane
What's he supposed to do? That's like praising the postman!
Absolute rubbish ..... one good performance in the year and we are all supposed to be happy with that. What about Easter, Birthdays, baby showers .... I could go on and on. These reindeer have zero work ethic are gonna end up throwing Santa under the bus.
@@stephenkane1074 😂maybe 'throwing Santa under the sleigh'
@@davd1986 "Do me a favor" 🤣🤣
Roy: "if it was all about possession I'd still be playing"
One of his traits people never talk about. He rarely lost a ball and almost always passed forward. Brilliant player.
Something we miss nowadays
I would take Roy now over Scott/ Fred
Agreed.
@@LynkJDL1 yep and Rooney (who wouldnt be his best mate and didnt play that long with him) say he was the best passer of a ball hes played with in around the box. Rooney has played with some decent passers too including scholes, lampard n gerrard. I was surprised he admitted that but i always thought Keane was very underrated on the ball. Always played the right pass and if he lost it, he got it back!
‘Leopards don’t change their spots.’ Keano said this a couple years ago and it still carries true today
True. Keane always was an overrated thug.
@@MorrisseyMuse that’s why he has 7 premier leagues
@@shad0w275 what does that mean? I dont agree with that jealous little guy but would Keane have won 7 league titles no matter what team he was in?
@@dickslaughter2 He was a elite player and would only play at elite teams. So yes he would.
It ends with R.R
United have a brilliant squad on paper. But football isn’t played on paper. Keane is correct, United lack characters, hunger, leadership, mental strength when it’s going against you. Without the ball they are awful. With the ball they can’t keep it, dominate or dictate play from midfield. They have relied on an individual like Ronaldo to dig them out. No pattern of play. No collective with or without the ball.
Paper means f all unless your playing a computer game
The Lacking characters and leadership thing holds absolutely no truth when you sign CR7 tbh, they lacked an even half competent football coach
Yeah Cavani , Varane , Sancho , Ronaldo all a bunch of bums that don’t work right ? Can’t win anything with those guys . Fact is just like when Mourinho Chelsea quit player don’t want to play shite football and players give up running around when the system is set up to fail.
There’s teams in the championship with great work rate , Ireland has incredible work rate do you fancy them against Germany ? This is professional football and if you ask Keane to study Klopp, Tuchel and Pep and ask him if they are good managers or tactical geniuses and Pep is a technical genius and do they know exactly what they want to see and are choosing in players even when it doesn’t work out
@@Mr.A.. exactly on the whole it comes down to incompetent coaching, I hate this chat of, "not a great group of lads" we have CR7, varane, bruno all leaders even david de gea and non of these are even the captain
@@franchizetheartist Agree but only Ronaldo has been on the pitch, and while he’s an awesome player he does very little off the ball
martial injured his hammy when he heard the word gegenpressing
One thing Rangnick will definitely do is get them working extremely hard to increase their fitness levels which were shocking under Ole.
Its not gonna make a difference unless u change the hierarchy
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 what does the hierarchy have to do with the players lacking the will to run?
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 He's gonna be basically the consultant/DOF at the end of the season, that's literally a change to hierarchy
Jose already tried that and they threw him under the bus....
@@thetruthistheanswer9668 There may be a change with Woodward leaving soon. Woodward was the single biggest reason why United have failed so much in the last decade (although you could argue it's the Glazers, as they appointed Woodward in the first place..).
Finally a manager who has a clear game plan & vision, please give him a chance. Those statistics are very very impressive.
Who you gonna press with, Pogba, Ronaldo and Cavani. Lol
It’s all well having a manager with a clear plan.. it’s the Man Utd players who have to adapt but they won’t.
@@zo2779 why do u need to press? My team doesn’t press at all and we’re doing better than utd with a worse team
@@lukescovell8294 United demands better football than basically any other club thats the problem for people coming in. Part of the reason Ole fell to bits more was demanded of him after finishing 2nd.
@@lukescovell8294 because that’s what their new manager wants, press, win, attack, repeat
Had to stop himself saying the top 3 a "brilliantly coached" first of all.... blaming players work ethic is lazy. Top coaches will drill their players to work hard, and if they don't those players don't make it. Roy and Gary will never say it how it was regarding Ole and his coaches. Scholes is the only one speaking truth!
They threw him under the bus apparently, not the fact that’s Hes pound for pound one of the worst coaches in the league they just don’t care enough 🙄
@@mohammedyahya5838 if the players are the ones on the pitch then might aswell have no manager at all
Exactly. If this was Mourinho, Roy and Gary would’ve called for his head to be sacked. So easy to see that Ole got sacked because he was not good/ experienced enough to be a United manager. And the coaching staff were even worse.
I’m just genuinely surprised so many people agree with Keane here lol
Ole the reason the team unfit and no tactics a team always reflect the manager the reason United became a laughingstock, Roy and gary make me sick🤢
Was Mourinho not drilling them?
Ole was at fault for the most part, but I'm genuinely curious about Mourinho's United
I feel like Keane holds back a lot of what he wants to really say.
Of course
@@lankystreakofpiss4765 'Sly Sports' Was that a typo or intended? Can't stop laughing either way!
he wanted to say ronaldo a lazy bitch and always has beeen
I agree, he goes further than the rest tho, .
lol, youre joking? he goes as far as criticizing players by their name directly...how much is he holding back you think lol
Keane and Jamie speaking facts.
I bet you regret not going with Roy. Would of been easier for you to spell then Keane 😂😂🤦♂️
@@daddyleogamingchannel5356 would have*
@@jamieh5222 😂
Fr
@@rufusrupo Players haven't been coached well since Carrick, McKenna and Phelan have arrived. Bad coaching and lazy players led us to this.
I speak for everybody when i say " I m here for Roy Keane "
The team reflects the manager
I'm a united fan and love Jamie's views. He's always been spot on with where united are going wrong.
Ahh u again .. speaking for everyone
If you want to hear a bitter irishman moan, then go to a pub.
And Denis Irwin
The players didn’t work hard under Lampard, the same players worked hard under Tuchel… it’s not the players, it’s the manager who gets his team to work hard.
True. The players have to believe in the philosophy in order to implement it with fight and desire.
@@AJ-xv7oh All those managers were past their best. No big club would take them now.
Most of those Chelsea players played under conte or sarri, both had similar disciplined styles of play where as ole didn’t, tuchel hit the ground running where as united will struggle to begin with as did Liverpool
If that’s the case the players are lazy bastards
And they shouldn’t be playing.
Stop talking nonsense.
A lot of United players will be in trouble with Rangnick. Looking forward to it honestly.
One of the main problems with united is we don't ever get rid of anyone deemed surplus to requirements, so the players that aren't performing know they can probably outlast the manager and just carry on doing what they want.
That's one thing about Fergie, you weren't performing you were dropped and if you weren't good enough to help bring in the trophies you were gone.
That's a glazer issue not a manager issue. We had Valencia for way too long yet no other rb. Owners don't think of long term development. We still play Wan Bisaka every game yet he's actually very young, and needs a more experienced rb taking over.
@@SardonischerDean he's 24.
@@neilg6675 still we should invest in other rbs apart from him.
@@SardonischerDean I think the issue with awb is he's a defensive right back and all anyone talks about is how he needs to be better at attacking. How about we let him be the defensive beast that he used to look like, and have have another right back that is an attacking option. Trying to get him to be an attacker has ruined his game imo.
Jimmy is correct. We've got to stick with it. It's most likely going to be painful in the beginning but we've got to stick with it because it's a clear plan, an ethos. These things generally aren't implemented overnight.
Exactly. Look how long it took Klopp and Pep to get Pool and City where they are. It may be a little quicker for us because of our squad but we have to be patient because our club is finally going to be run by a guy who knows what he’s doing.
@@timeless4369 Pep won the league in his second season with record breaking 100 points.
@@vandal_dk tbf, Frank laid a lot of key foundations in his first season. Tuchel himself has admitted as much. Frank laid the puzzle pieces, Tuchel put them together
@@edderwright9042 But Pep was given everything he needed really quickly. United managers don’t get that luxury. I know United spend money but they have spent it poorly because they don’t have competent people running the club until Rangnick moves into that role but Ole and the board have left the club a mess so it could take some time.
He needs players to implement his style.
Problem is Keane and Neville looked at the Ole situation through rose tinted glasses. He was their mate first and Manchester United manager second. If it was anyone else they would have thrown him under the bus a long time ago.
Agree !
I agree...if he was as critical to Ole as he is to the players, I'm gonna be honest Ole wouldn't have been in the job after losing a final.
Erm , thats True
Those stats per game are shocking, it proves that Ole was just too nice, and last guys finish last, that's why he got relegated with Cardiff.
I knew they were bad, but I didn’t think they were THAT bad
Last guys finish last.. I mean you aren't wrong.
"Last guys finish last" Thanks Michael Owen
@@ivorydeluxe1672 Lol, oh dear 🤣🤣🤣
being nice has nothing to do with this. he was incompetent
I love how rangnick thinks very highly on situations and how they react to them. Those “situations” are the little battles you have to win in these games to ultimately come out on top.
Compare Ralph speaks to ole it’s Laughable. He’s a real genius; Those stats are extremely impressive for someone who is more known as a Sporting Director. These players should be in for a rude awakening and they deserve it 👏👏👏👏
Overhyped, got to be a reason why no top team have gone in for him before. No manager has been able to get a shift out of these players and mourinho is known as a manager who expects allot
@@yaneyd93 replying to the comment not the video 👍🏻
He talks well but delivery of his plans have always been mixed - very few trophies won when he was the coach & the Utd squad is riddled with players who simply don't want to press / don't want to play in the kind of system he prefers.
I still say he's been brought in more for his director of football credentials - his record of setting up a youth system / talent pipeline is better than his record as a coach.
His job this season is to steady the ship & his real job starts in the summer when he starts his advisory role.
@@daylebacchus5395 The video literally explains why he hasn't been poached for a top club..? watch the video pal, stop being so bias and negative just because you don't like united.
@@daylebacchus5395 who said it's going to instantly change?
He said he hates square/back passes, Man utd defence is highly known for that, especially Maguire who often ends up messing it up by making the situation tight. Definitely we will get to see a change!
Maguire ain't gonna be playing as often. His ball control cost Ole his job.
My heart drops whenever I see Maguire tries to run with the ball
During SAF’s time the back passes were already there. Carrick was the inventor of this and I never been a fan of that. Redundant back passes and yet receives praise for supposedly one of the best holding midfielders of his generation lol
Hit the nail on the head..this has been our main problem shocked that not many pple see it..we do a alot of back passes
@@yuhhhhhhhhhh3623 That's because Keane was never replaced so United lost the drive in midfield.
If it’s always the players fault and never the managers fault like these clowns are claiming then why are clubs even hiring managers and coaches in the first place?
It is the players fault
You know they never said it was only the player's fault. But the fact remains that Man U players are quite lazy in recovering and defending the ball. Only maybe Scott and Wan Bissaka show some impetus in winning back the ball
@@jcl644 Stop making fake youtube accounts Gary Neville, you’re not going to repair your credibility as a pundit like that mate
@A I agree that the majority of the blame here lies with the coach. No doubt. But as I said the players must take some blame here. The defensive errors for example from Shaw and Maguire and the inability to just run and try win a ball has to an intrinsic thing. Put Kante in that team with the same level of coaching and he is still Kante trying to win the ball. That's what I'm trying to say. At some point you have to take responsibility as a player too.
That isn’t what they said lol they said they just said it in regards to United and it’s true really, if the United players had committed more to their past managers and worked harder, they may be in a better position. Very white collar culture in the club, that’s the problem.
Putting it down to not working hard enough as opposed to the CLEAR coaching deficiencies is awful analysis imo and another side of the defending the manager thing that Gary Neville does.
Keane has always had bad takes. And this is one of them. He just assumes way too much with an a lot of anger. When you’re angry and start assuming.. that’s a bad combination.
He did point out both aspects. Players don't stop working for no reason. Ole being too nice was mentioned. United having no shape was mentioned. It's no one thing. Keane is far better at making points about United than Neville is.
And you denying the extreme lack of effort and passion from these players is even worse.
@@AJ-xv7oh That is literally part of the coaching, you think teams press more effectively and efficiently because they're just so passionate about the club, the coach instills that in the players on a daily basis, you think Bruno isnt passionate about United? Ronaldo just not passionate too I'm assuming
@@binboy4034 I wonder how much more 'passionate' the players will become when they have a manager who can coach an effective press
Scholes is the only one who says it how it is, yes players were bad but y is he never criticising ole??
its called being gentleman for your old pal
Absolutely spot on from Keane. No manager on earth is going to help united until certain players are gone. Very rarely more than 3 players at a time actually working in a game.
first one i'd get rid of is pogba, puts more effort into doing his hair than on the pitch
@@adrianboulter1906 What Pogba did during the Liverpool game probably damaged morale considerably. He should have apologised. I think Keane was pointing out his lack of work ethic for Man United back in 2019!
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 you specified that Keane was “pointing out his lack of work ethic for Man United back in 2019” - which is why I asked if you were suggesting his work ethic has improved at all, as im sure you can understand your point is a bit vague. If anything I’d say he’s gotten worse since 2019.
@@debbiedowner4327 Agreed, and his getting a red card during a crucial game is a core example of this.
@@adrianboulter1906 He’s gonna leave for free to a place of his choosing in the summer, what do you mean get rid? Funny you mugs never say anything about Maguire. You criticize Pogba for his hair, not the guy (captain) getting drunk and arrested on vacation. Foden does his hair all fancy and everyone supports it, when it’s Pogba he gets hate.
The graphic at 2:12 tells you everything you need to know about why Ole got sacked. Shocking
Be interesting to see how quickly Keane and Neville throw Rangnick under the bus when he doesn't win a few games
Keane doesn't throw managers under the bus. He was very public about the fact both moyes n Jose should have been given more time.
Keane doesn't throw managers under the bus. Before Ole was sacked many were trolling Keane and Gary for sticking with Ole even when everyone else wanted him gone. Bet you were one of those who trolled them for sticking up for their mate
@@banihin pundits have to remain impartial and unbiased or they lose all credibility
It's true that some of the players are not UTD level but they would have performed much better if the coaches had some clue as organize the team. Ole did a good job as a mentor and spokesperson but as a coach/manager he was a flop. I don't think any top team would ever hire Ole as their manager.
Salford would hire him, he's Gary Neville's bestie after all.
ole did well . i am sure this guy will also flop
He was always an assistant coach acting as manager.
Of course not, and this is why I have little sympathy for Ole. I cannot think of any other manager who benefitted from as much nostalgic nepotism as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, and I really do not believe that any other manager would have been allowed to stay in their job after the Liverpool disaster.
He said the same thing when Jose was sacked. Shows it’s not the managers fault. Cos he said it here about Ole and now they have done the same with Ten Hag
Refuses to "tell it like it is" when it comes to his boy Ole. I can agree that this united team is not good enough in particular a class cdm but I mostly blame Ole for much of their struggles. Ole just isn't good enough and had lost most of the locker room for some time now. United doesnt have an identity so how can you expect the players to execute well?
Keane said last year that Lampard gets away with a lot because he's English yet Ole outlasted him by a year. Ole had a higher gross and net spend than Frank at the time the latter was sacked while he'd also had to deal with losing Hazard amidst a 1 year transfer ban.
Despite this, sacking him was the right thing to do as evidenced by Chelsea's performances since. Sancho's goal yesterday was the 5th Leagues goal they conceded all season, for context, United conceded that many at home to Liverpool
Roy’s loyal love of Ole’s hilarious. Especially as the man who’s supposed to love no-one.
Jamie points out an important factor. Several United players will struggle with this high tempo game! Injuries might increase in the short term (and results may suffer). Some players are not going to be successful. If the interim and long term manager have similar philosophies then you can implement the plan properly. And Jimmy said.... you have to stick with it !
Carra right when Klopp took over we suffered a lot of Injuries and also a few players can't adapt. Its a lot to ask a club to change to a new style in 6 months
I honestly don't see many players who will struggle with Rangnick's style individually. Getting them organised is the part that will take time.
Its one thing been able to run, but most of these players cant give a simple pass! Shocking really. I keep hearing about the quality of the squad. Not sure people actually watch these players. They cant keep the ball playing at a slow tempo so no chance if thats increased. They need a player that can control a game too. Im hoping VDB is given that role and Bruno dropped.
The problem with united is they stumbled on a good plan, but I’m not sure if they will stick to it
I’m actually excited to see Rangnick’s influences on Utd.
Disagree with Roy to an extent . Ole has a big squad ,but he played the same players week in week out.. If the players weren't doing their job, he could have replaced them ,but never did .
Totally agree 👍
Roy is right tbh and you are because Ole was too nice to those players. If I was the manager I would driven out Lindelof and Pogba out of the team two years ago. Also would apply extra discipline on Maguire, Rashford, Martial, McTominay and Shaw. Sold Mata and Matic
@@michaelt9511 don't get why Matic and Mata were given new contracts . And don't get me started with Jones also getting a new deal .
I dont think Ole was even aware of the 5 areas Ralph was referring to. Neither was I to be fair.
He's only aware of fine margins and starting off strong. That's all he know.
Love how Roy just says it as it is.
That's his job
Except that he didn’t when he was defending his buddy ole
Ole didn't even have a strategy for his players to throw him under the bus.
Ole blew it.
Exactly. Mourinho who won 2 trophies with United with a far weaker squad, was thrown under the bus I’ll admit but not Ole. Man Utd was a step too far for him. This is a guy who couldn’t even manage at Cardiff City. How was he then going to be a success at one of the greatest clubs in the world. He should try get a job managing Sheffield United, Birmingham or some random other Championship team and try gain more experience.
@@accountuser5588 spot on. I always liked mourinho but the fan channels and the pundits hated him. I’ll never understand why these rich owners don’t listen to the experts like jose.
Ole was treated like a god while he was at United and he didn’t win anything. Unbelievable 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Must've missed that time Schalke got to the CL final, Raph.
semi-final. he misspoke.
Came that for this lol
Manchester United players are over paid beyond their abilities. Their high pay also makes them too comfortable to work their socks off as there is no further reward for them to perform more.
The only way out is really to revamp the squad with new and younger, hungrier players who do not command a high wage. The rest will have to leave as they will not take a hit to stay on.
Spot on. Said it for two years, the failings of the players' commitment & efforts have been enabled by the very top at this club for far too long & the fans don't help matters either always making excuses for certain players who just aren't delivering to a standard their talent should dictate. Mediocrity has not only been accepted at United, it's been rewarded.
@@NoirFan84 Rashford has spent more time doing charities than actually challenging himself on the pitch because Ole made all these players comfortable.
They turned from a club of champions to a welfare club that feeds the subpar and the useless of the footballing world. For Heaven's sake, Phil Jones is still there. PHIL JONES.
or just get a competent manager. how come city, chelsea and liverpool dont have these problems
Yh a player like martial has gotten to comfortable at utd...same as rashy and lingz
They surely did, he is always going to be a legend of the club while being respect. Apart from Ronaldo and De Gea , I don’t rate any current united players. They pathetic using social media to hide their lack of sportsmanship. They make me sick
The current top managers are brilliant tacticians and driven people, Tuchel is obsessive about his training concepts. The days when an ex player with a bit of 'know how' steps into the role of manager are long gone. It's a lot more than just 'running'.
I really like the fact that Carrick was brave enough to bench CR7, no player has the right to feel that he must play in any club, OGS lacked this courage.
Listening to Roy Keane’s opinion, I suddenly remembered how he threw the national team and coach Mick McCarthy under the bus just before the 2002 World Cup.
Listening to roy Keane exclusively berating the players for lack of effort when they have clearly been terribly coached as well particularly tactically is getting tiring. Admit that the tactics have been dire as well.
Utd fan here, love keanu but i'd disagree with him here. It became more and more apparent that there was a lack of a game plan. Bruno running around like a headless chicken by himself trying to press was a HUGE testament of lack of a playing style. You can have world class players but without a game plan they will struggle regardless. ROY has to stop comparing his time at United to the present.
Bruno is headless anyway. Needs to calm down n try to control a game rather than try to win it with every pass. Why he cant get in the portugal team.
This aged well.
never understood why whenever a manager gets sacked the media accuse the players for 'throwing the manager under bus' as if players actually step out onto the pitch and don't want to win, they are pro ballers and anyone who knows what it takes to make it pro in ball knows that's not in their dna, players will almost always try to win and give a good account of themselves, ogs wasn't getting the best out of the squad and that's that
Well said!
What did the players do finished 6th just about finished in Europe league thanks to Brighton
This is what Keane does berates people all the time and people say Keane is the greatest commentator of all time, but in reality all he does is ranting without suggesting how to improve players. Keane can never be a good manager period
He's already lost the dressing room without even being the manager
🤣🤣🤣 Bring the youth in and the ones who really want to win will be ok, the rest can jog on, because that's exactly what they've been doing anyway 'jogging'.
Hear say
@@skidan4real exactly. There's so much unmoulded youth who he can drill this into because they don't have ego's and just want a chance. He can grow them instead of the clowns.
@@sechabatheletsane9784 Definitely.
Nonsense. I would hazard a guess that he influenced both their team selection and tactics today and guess what - it got them a point at the Bridge. If Rangnick starts getting more results, the dressing room will very much swing in his favour
Some of our Utd players won’t know what’s hit them when Ralf comes to town lol
100% I agree everything that roy is saying
Roy is right, what’s the point of kissing Ole’s backside when it’s because of your lack of effort and work rate that played a huge part (Ole
Obviously has to take blame as well) for the reason he was sacked.
Save it for someone who cares PRashford
It’s hard to direct effort when you are getting outplayed by better systems. They can try as hard as they want but if it’s not organised against a well run premier league side then it won’t end well
No. The players are why ole stayed so long
@@DownloadARevolt20 don't think there was any player power involved cuz the players were pretty happy with ole as manager..if there was, such things get leaked usually, y'know
that's why Roy Keane is the greatest Pundit, lay into the Lazy Players!!!!!
What about the PE teacher?
Scholes is better. Keane blames de gea for no reason
Lol he’s not the greatest, he’s just entertaining
it’s lazy analysis. a guy at your local pub spews such
Me as a pure United fan: I don't really care whose fault it is , I just can't watch United like this.
stop blaming the players and say it how it is, his friend ole was not good enough
Players have to take some blame. You can have any manager in charge if the players dont work hard enough it won't work.
Guadiola, Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, all their teams work hard and do the defensive side too.
@@MH-vp7lf i can almost guarantee you that rangnick will get a better tune of the current squad than ole did
@@aaront9778 he should sell half of the squad
Guy at the end don’t know his stuff, said Mané played in Bundesliga n that Ralf took Schalke to CL final
Said he went to the Red bull organisation
The look on Keane's face after the 5 point philosophy, he be like that's the basics of football'!
Why did keane fail as a manager then if its so easy. ?
@@harrycolon5301 Would love to know why, started very well but then seemed to fall out with everyone.
Sometimes the hard man role really gets old with Keane but you can’t say he doesn’t know his football, he’s not afraid to tell it how it is
Let's face it..Ole was practically doing his job for 20 percent of his time at Utd...and saving his job for 80% of it..
McFred became his go to...his identity...but that wasnt his plan..else why sell Herrera who was better at the job then others..
He had a vision of a fast fluid front 3 but it never came together due to Rashford's injuries and Martial's lazyness..else why would he have sold Lukaku..
I hope he finds a small club with lesser expectations and actually builds on his career!
Like Cardiff lol?
agree with hasselbank stick to it
Not even a United fan but this is actually getting out of order. Actual LEGENDS of the club still publicly sticking all the blame on players and not their mate who was really really poor must leave a proper sour taste in mouths over there. It's no wonder everyone's mocking you all. Glory glory man yanited, aye?
The players ARE ALSO to blame! So yes Roy is right to blame the players!
United never needed a goal-machine upfront. They had scored 73 Premier League goals last season 5 more than Liverpool and 15 more than Chelsea on their way to a second placed finish. The forwards were doing a good job. Jadon Sancho’s arrival for £73 million in the summer addressed the right-wing issue and Solskjaer’s rebuild looked only a midfielder away. Someone of Declan Rice’s skill-set to reach the next level.
Enter Ronaldo, and it created a tactical conundrum. Stats put out by United’s official app show that in 14 matches, Ronaldo went for a tackle only once and has won just 26 out of 54 duels. In the autumn of his career, the Portuguese star became United’s focal point at the expense of the team’s high-press. It also shifted Mason Greenwood to the right flank from a central position and sent Sancho to the bench.
Without high-press, a sub-par United midfield became even more exposed and the defence wilted under pressure as a trickle-down effect.
As per stats, United conceded 0.6 goal per game from open play during the 2019-20 season. Last term it was 0.7. Post-Ronaldo, it has already risen to two goals per game. As much as Ronaldo's lack of defensive contribution, it was also down to Solskjaer's coaching staff, who failed to find a system that fitted the five-time Ballon d'Or winner.
Roy Keane's assessment of the problems at Man Utd "they're not good enough lads". Amazing Roy, shocked that they haven't offered you an 8 year contract to take it on.
😅😅😅I'm so surprised it took me this long to scroll down to a comment that can see Keanes toxicity and player agenda
So the Manchester sporting directors wanted high work rate and high pressure when off the ball football, yet they spend a massive amount on Ronaldo. They are literally making it up as they're going.
Props to the german dude. Really good insights, well-spoken, and to the point. The latter of which is a rare quality in today's punditry.
I agree. To the point and very pertinent insights.
These lads have done what I predicted
If the players fall out with the manager/coach they just play like a Sunday league pub team and the club owner's get a new manager/coach.
It happens all the time but no one sees the writing on the wall.
Ole was too patient... And Pogba is Balotelli
Always a pleasure when someone of his calibre is cutting through all the bullshit. He always does it and one must not always agree but really rather often.
Klopp's first game, even though we didn't win, I saw something different. A new level of expectation.
Roy got emotional trying to defend his incompetent friend.. Jamie made great points
Jimmy
Interesting how Keane makes the point that Ronaldo (amongst others) needs to start running and closing down yet made the exact opposite point in the heated discussion with Carragher after the Chelsea game.
He was a great player but hopeless as a manager. Based on his record, Man U are never going to ask him to do it.
Jimmy “gotta stay with it” hasselbank:)
He is just scapegoating the players. Players don't have an infinite career. They can't afford to keep a man who is clearly not good enough in a job just because the owners are too stubborn to accept it. They already kept him in a job he couldn't do and didn't deserve for 3 YEARS and yet its still their fault they don't throw away more precious years of their career? Honestly ole must have something on his former teammates.
still can't admit that Ole wasn't a good enough manager and that the coaches were also out of their depth. These people employed by the club have spent 400 Million on players the last 3 seasons. Why has Gary Neville and Roy Keane still got a job/platform as pundits
The players played individually for two seasons, they hit a bad spell of form this season and needed the managers tactics and coaching staff to help them defend leads, breakdown teams etc. but nah all Roy sees is players throwing a manager under the same bus they have been driving for two seasons whilst Ole collected money at the door. Spoken like a failed management Roy!
Ole threw himself under the bus... Players had no direction, poor coaching.
I've got a feeling that this Ragnick fella is gonna end up getting the permanent job. He might not have won a lot up to now, but as you can see with his 2 students, the style of football he's taught them to play, that style is what's winning things in England right now.
One thing that's for certain, by the end of the season, we'll find out why he's not won trophies
his 2 students according to an interview , where he said it himself and he flattered himself a lot in that interview. hope he does well to steer the ship but he is being over hyped lol
Rangnicks CV is rubbish.. and when did he take a small village of 3 thousand from the third tier to the Bundesliga? This expert on German football seems to have made that up
The players kept Ole in a job for about 6 months by making up for his completely non-existent tactics and planning
reminds me of a story on a Belgian footballer who became coach of the team he played the year before, and on the first training his former teammate, roommate even called him by his first name and he responded with "it's coach now"
It wasn't supposed to be like this. When Ole first took over from Mourinho he was shocked at how unfit the players were. Van Gaal had set up systems to monitor player fitness and Mourinho basically got rid of it and largely relied on older experienced players to get results.
So Ole in the first few months as interim manager basically put the players through intense preseason-style training. He tried to get them fitter, he tried to get them running more. He wanted a high pressing, quick team. If you remember, at the end of that season, after going on a great winning run, they started losing again and this was because the players were essentially burned out. Ole pushed them far beyond what they'd done under Jose and it was too much for them.
Ole wanted to play fast paced attacking football with high pressing. In his first full season though United had a huge problem with creativity. Pogba has been injured for large parts of Ole's reign and in his first full season he had to play Pereira as a 10 until Bruno came in the following January. United at the time were also strongest on the counter attack. Ole was trying to transition the team towards a more possession based side, rather than relying on quick counter attacks. Again, he wanted to hold possession and build with the ball and press high without the ball.
In his second full season, he started trying to fully implement the possession football but then Spurs slapped United with 6 goals on the same day Liverpool shipped 7 to Villa (such a weird day) and I think that spooked Ole. Pogba was injured AGAIN and so he resorted to sticking with Fred and McTominay, fearful of being exposed at the back because United's defence was slow and ponderous.
Then you get to this season. United needed a defender, a midfielder and a winger. They got two of the three. Ole also wanted an attacking right back but that didn't happen. He did get Ronaldo though which, while not part of this season's plan, did fill a future quota of getting a striker (he wanted Haaland next year but Ronaldo gave him the opportunity to have two world class goalscorers and hopefully develop Greenwood).
But not getting that midfielder was a huge mistake. Couple that with Varane's injuries, Maguire and Shaw's fall off in form and Sancho taking time to integrate and suddenly Ole's initial plan, his vision for a quick, pressing, attacking side was out the window and it all fell apart from there.
Ole started at United wanting a team that pressed hard and out ran and out worked everybody. He ended with a team that did none of that and you have to wonder, how much of it was circumstances beyond his control, how much of it was poor coaching and how much of it was the players not being able, or worse, willing to work hard?
Ole didn't deserve it. The lads were too lazy. Ole was the right man for the job. No question about it. Roy keane is 100% right
hes the worst manager ever
But why were they lazy? The manager has something to do with it. Maybe they believed they were above him.
Blame the players but they have not been getting coached...and its more so that the board threw Ole under the bus... because he has said countless times he doesn't do the coaching but the coaching staff are still here since Ole's sacking. The manager, the staff all not good enough. But yes the players will have to work hard now under Rangnick and hopefully his own coaching staff.
But did the players no
"Taken schalke to a champions League final".. dream on Rafa
Roy Keane predicted this what a guy 💥🥶
Anyone else really enjoy listening to that guy at the end lol. Man knew his stuff.
Still comes back to the manager though if the squad don't work hard enough or have the right character. This was very much Ole's squad in his third year. The Glazers and board are still to blame ultimately for Utd's failings but the performances came back to Ole and his staff. Rangnick will come in and clear out the deadwood, get the right players in either in January or have them lined up for the summer, regardless of whether he stays as manager or goes upstairs. You can't underestimate what having a clear idea does for a top team. Utd used to have it with Fergie and Gill and City, Liverpool and Chelsea currently have it with their setups. There's no reason why Utd shouldn't return to the level those three clubs are currently at if they allow this guy to take control of the sporting side. Everything else about the club is in place to succeed on the commercial side, it's the footballing side that's been neglected for years and years with the Glazers banker mates pretending they know how to run a football club.
Maybe, just maybe, Ole didn't know what the hell he was doing! Sick and tired of hearing Roy regurgitating the same diatribe about players throwing managers under the bus when it was painfully obvious from the beginning that Ole was way out of his depth. Everyone can identify once having a manager or supervisor at work whose naivety and incompetence causes chaos and instability, that was Ole.
Carra is the best pundit on sky at the moment, Roy is up there for entertainment
Keane is by far the best pundit. Hense why every football channel wants him
All comes down to coaching. Blaming players is too easy. If theres no ideas or structure on the pitch and from the manager then no player will buy into that. Keane just needs to relaxx
Nonsense Roy got Sunderland promoted to premier league as there coach
Keane is spot on.
These players don't sprint back to defend.
I thought I was the only person who realized this. The same can be said about PSG.
That is why city always win they sprint back.
ROY KEANE SHOULD BE THE NEXT MANAGER OF MAN UTD
I know Keane personally, Ferguson has put a block to that
First video I've ever seen with no thumbs down
Ole wasn't good enough, simple as, you can call the players lazy etc but the management had alot to be desired. United were never ever gonna win anything under Ole. This is just Roy Keane sticking up for his mate instead kf saying Ole was useless.
Ignore the players in Europe league just about
Rangnick is a good manager if he has a young team. He plays high pressing football and expects his players to play with pace and intensity. Can your really see the like of Ronaldo, Bruno or Cavani really doing that?
They will not play under Ralph. He will get younger players in and keep Sancho, Beek and a few others. Haaland should be a perfect fit for his style. United could become a young exciting team to watch in 2022/23.
So Ole buys his own players, changes the team, and it still the players fault? The team he started against Liverpool and man City had all HIS PLAYERS. From maguire, to Bruno to AWB. All of them let him down too! He's simply not a good enough coach and his philosophy is outdated. Keane is a terrible football manager and I'm not sure why this passion merchant is valued as a pundit. Everything is passion with him, the German managers are running the show with INTELECT and PHILOSOPHY while these guys continue with their passion talk.
what i think paints the perfect image of United is when a player is dispossessed or loses the ball, said player often will seem like he's having a strop, throwing arms up or huffing a puffing.
Not anger and hunger to get that ball back immediately. Its crazy seeing these players at top top level doing EXACTLY what i was told NOT to do when i was 8! It's definitely not lack of talent lets be honest