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I think it was just her putting basketball before him and her knowing that if it was her he would put her first so it was the disappointment of her not willing to do that same
Well she offered to have him come back with her to her dorm he could’ve did that she was trying to be there for him and if she stayed she wouldn’t have started and she would always resent him for that
I feel compelled to add that: the texture of her hair throughout the film was intentional symbolism. Whenever it was in its natural state she was in her natural state. It wasn't politically correct or socially acceptable (she nor her hair) but she was who and what she was unapologetically. She, however, would change her hair; transform, if you will for the sake of acceptance (by quincy exclusively). The examples of picked women in this film, from their moms, to Shaunie Easton, to Tyra Banks all had their hair pressed which was a contrast from Monica's which would be considered unruly.. just as her spirit was. Seeing Quincy in the days leading up to his marriage to Tyra, Monica finally straightened her hair again and then took it a step further with wearing heels and then even Q had to call her out on her dishonest aesthetic. The final scene was paramount because she had Q, the conquered misogynist and their baby watching her as she finally achieved everything she wished for while not having to sacrifice her true self fully. Notice her hair is no longer straight in that scene
I never understood why he got SO mad. Like yeah, be disappointed, but understand that she wasn't being malicious and she obviously cared about him. Cherie was saying Monica had anger issues but really, Quincy had the most issues with his anger in this movie tbh. He pushed her into the ground and permanently scarred her face, he blows up at her over curfew, he blows up at his father, and then when Monica confessed her love for him and he acted horrible. He didn't have to reciprocate her feelings, he chose to go entertain her. Quincy is the hothead.
I cannot watch this film or baby boy. Sanaa's character here and Taraji's in baby boy are too u relatable to me. They're not strong enough for me. The toxicity and pandering to their dust mites is a 🙅🏿♀️ 👎🏾!
FAKE-N-BAKE. I don’t think Q’s mom trapped his dad. Fun facts: Omar Epps’ name was Q in Juice as well. Him & Sanaa Lathan were also in The Wood, Him & Tyra Banks were also in Higher Learning, Sanaa Lathan & Regina Hall were also in The Best Man, Disappearing Acts & The Best Man Holiday, those two & Monica Calhoun were also in The Best Man & The Best Man Holiday, Sanaa Lathan & Alfre Woodard were also mother & daughter in Something New & The Family That Preys, Regina Hall & Gabrielle Union were also in Think Like A Man & Think Like A Man Too, Omar Epps & Gabrielle Union were also in Almost Christmas & Sanaa Lathan & Boris Kojoe were also in Brown Sugar.
Being just as old as this movie I can say I never watched all of it because I could never get over how Monica just let him do her any kind of way. That “play me for your heart” scene is the reason why I act the way I do when it comes to men 🤣🤣 (I like to be reassured over and over while I act uninterested until I deem it safe)
I think Monica works so much harder because Quincy already has a step up with his dad and his connections to the NBA, allowing Quincy to get the help for his schooling. So it's understandable that she is mad when the scholarship people come. Perhaps Monica knows it with Quincy, but she never wanted to say it or show it because that's her friend.
Boys didn't ask out the female athletes. Most likely because we didn't dress girly, didn't wear make up or lots of jewelry. They couldn't see the beauty back then. Imo. I didn't get asked out, someone else tend to "find" my dates
"I'm gonna be the first girl in the NBA." There was a woman in the NBA. Her name was Lusia Harris and she was drafted in 1977 by the New Orleans Jazz. And she was a Black woman too.
Thanks so much for sharing this! I had to go and read up on her right quick. Just the idea that she's the one and only woman to ever be drafted by the NBA.. Wow!
I hate the fact that he had a whole fiancé and he dropped her like it was nothing. Imagine being engaged to someone thinking they’re the love of your life only for them to tell you they’ve been in love with their childhood friend and the wedding is off…granted the marriage prolly wouldn’t be good anyway since he was in love with someone else but that’s crazy…
Fake n Bake and Quincy's Mama DEFINITELY trapped his Daddy. I got the sense that she thought she was trapping him for "love" and not necessarily for "gold". The high potential of money, a comfortable lifestyle, and a handsome/famous husband was definitely a perk, but she wanted the fairy princess turned queen ending. She thought that she would have a rich lifestyle, a gifted/talented child, and a famous handsome husband who would only have eyes for her. Woman who trap for "gold" really aren't caring about how many meetings her man has or how long he stays away from the house. Their antennas only go up when there is a loss of money or the man isn't showing interest in sharing the money.
@@DioneDion13to marry and/or have a baby w/ someone for main purpose of her hoping that they may solidify the relationship and create commitment. Some ppl marry to GROW in love… others marry because they already fell in love. IMO…. Quincy parents probably once lusted after another n then loved eachother but not the degree that their love could substain the “wandering eyes” , temptation & the fame that comes with being married to a ball player . Quincy’s mom possibly thought their “love” for one another would triumph any temptation he had to cheat w/ another women.. but clearly that wasn’t enough …
(FnB) As a viewer, it's obvious that they ALWAYS loved each other. The best part of the movie is watching the two main characters figure out what the audience already knows.
Fake-n-bake. I’m so glad yall are reviewing this movie. Yall be having me cracking up. This was my favorite movie as a kid. I remember when it came out, I think I was in 3rd grade. I loved the music in this film and others like the wood because it introduced me to what people were listening to back in the day and I loved going down those rabbit holes. I listen to these songs to this day. ❤❤
Gen Xer here. No boy jumping outta my window, but my stepdad stopped a boy from trying to jump IN, uninvited. In a strange turn of events, I ended up in an altercation with that lunatic almost 30 years later.
I said somewhere else that this movie has romance between the characters but that’s not the story of the film, Q and Monica had to learn to discover themselves outside of basketball and they could only do that while apart, their stories are very relatable and realistic on how it is to grow up changing your outlook on something you thought was your everything, both did this at the same time in reverse….I find that VERY interesting as a guy in his 20s, that’s what makes the romance more compelling with them growing up together I’d still change the ending for Q to go after Monica for her heart without the fiancé, I could never buy that Q could settle down with less than Monica, I mean she never could without Q right?
i can definitely relate to her asking her mom if she really thought she was beautiful. i myself am guilty of this because i wasn’t always told by my mom that i was beautiful. it’s the reassurance from your mom that honestly makes a difference especially if you weren’t always told. loved the commentary ❤
😂...🤢🤮 QUINCY WAS HORRIBLE!!! Worse than his father, because HE was THE provider... I hated this movie...he "played" her goofy behind from the beginning till the end. It was not a happy ending...for Quincy, maybe...for ALL of the men in the movie, really. The women looked like IDIOTS the entire time. I could never understand how she could still want to be with a man that doesn't "want her"? ...that didn't make sense to me as a 13 yo...it makes less sense now.
I haven't watched the movie in years so I don't recall if Q”s mom had told his dad that she was on birth control. If she did that would be the only way I would entertain the trapped word. My husband and I have 3 sons we teach them that they alone have the responsibility to wrap it up, and prevent disease and pregnancy. Thanks for taking a new look at this classic.
I don't care, I still have a soft spot for this movie because I grew up watching it. This, Love Jones and Brown Sugar were on frequent repeat growing up. As far as boys climbing out the windows? I'm a young millennial, so that never happened to me. I did get in trouble for having a boy talk to me outside the fence, which my mom still doesn't believe me to this day that he never came inside the fence, let alone the house. But my mom told me (she's Gen X) that she got busted with a boy hiding in her closet 😂 Had to be around '92 or '93 because she graduated HS in '94.
I also got in trouble for some inappropriate texts that were sent to me when I was 14! I was grounded and didn't even have the dang phone, my mom had it, and we were having a slumber party in the living room that night with my big cousin. 😂 I'll never forget how she cussed me out and it wasn't even my fault! My cousin has to really convince my mom that I never had the phone that night, she saved my ass even though I was the recipient and not the sender 😅
I hated this movie. He was mean to her from the beginning to the end. He never apologized. He was even shoving her in the last game playing for his rotten, evil heart.
Oh BTW I do think Quincy's mom trapped him!!! She was about that life and lifestyle trap a baller crap!! Then it back fired on her!! He did to her what many ballers do, cheat and dip out and do what they want because they can!! Smh Thats why the father was like don't worry, we got enough money to keep your fine ass in Gucci and gold because she always loved the money and lifestyle!
Ohh geez yea the average scout only makes like at max $66k a year. I can only imagine how little it was in the 90’s. And it was before the NBA gave finacial literacy lessons.
Im a genx, a lot of people were out back then. More were dL. Guys were pushing up on girls if they were attractive. It didn't matter if they were thought to be gay or straight. I think monica wasn't asked out, because guys thought she would reject them. "What's up, Black" was a saying we used to say back in the day. It had nothing to do with colorism
This was my era....I played basketball and ran track and a tomboy. The guys just looked at me as just a friend. I was never asked to any dances. So, I went by myself.
Fake and Bake. There's so much I always want to say, but there's plenty to speak on and I'll be editing my comment all day. I guess I'll choose to comment on Monica and Q's skills, since I used to hoop for Phillips. Shout out to 'Da P' Boys B-ball team for winning state. Sanaa was absolutely believable as a hooper, but was a hell of a HACK! Then always had that dumb look on her face when they called a foul... You fouled! Omar Epps was absolute trash, but that's okay because their jobs are acting 😂. Monica's dad grinded my gears with how he treated Camille. In regards to Nona, I feel she was projecting onto Quincy, because she saw herself to some degree in the girls she wanted to protect him from. Also also, I LOVE how y'all snuck this review on us! I just thought y'all were making conversation with the regular posts, not even thinking for a second y'all was about to drop this review. But now it's time to release part 2, don't make us suffer 😅!
So yeah i remember that back then boys wanted to talk to the girls who were social and popular. Even i was like monica and i didnt even play ball. I wasnt in the scene! No hanging out with girls after school, or parties for the weekends. Yes boys would try to talk to me, but not ones i wanted 😂 thats crazy how much gets forgotten when you get old. Im 32, sexuality talk amongst us was def not a top reason why boys didnt holla. Tf😂😂😂😂😂
So this does not necessarily apply to your question because i wasn't an athlete but I was a tomboy and i am gender fluid as an adult, (she/he- to the community, it just means i am comfortable being portayed and perceived for both myself and my surrounding as either a man or woman) and i am mostly masc presenting and what i have realized that in real life, men are actually rather olay and most likely will go for tomboys because both genders tend to be homoerotic and havung a tomboy or masc oresenting girlfriend to them means havung the befots of being around women (attraction. Appeal) and men (she is like the homies, she just gets it)... at least on the surface. But the other side is that in highschool and social settings, relationships (well at least as to men), your gf is like an achievement therefore the mem that def date tomboys and masc oresenting or non conforming women today wouldnt have dated them in high-school for the base reason that the homies wouldnt approve. In conservative/ conservative black spaces in this case, that biy woukd be seen as gay or ridiculed for not havung a wimam that perfomes fully to her woman duties and that also means making sure that they look hot and appealing. It exolains why she had not been asked out to the dance. She is only performing one aprt of the fantasy and that is being a homie that understand about sports but not being thee lady to them. P.S,they are not asking her out not out of respect of her possible sexuality. Because like you said. The assumption is that being gay cannot be real. They arent askin her out because they do not want to question their owm sexuality for finding such a masculine boy attractive.
I understand why Q. Got mad he was looking for her to console him as his girlfriend because he was in a vulnerable state - and she was putting her athleticism first because she was a ball player first and that was his resentment and made him think that maybe she couldn’t be the type of GF he wanted
Fake and Bake! I loved this movie as a youth, and I always felt like I looked like Sanaa even though everyone told me I didn’t 🤣🤣🤣…But you are right, there are not many love songs these days, and I think that’s why dating for many has been traumatic 🤣
❤❤ Fake & Bake❤❤❤. I don’t think 🤔 the mom “Nona” got pregnant 🤰🏽 on purpose! She seemed to sincerely love ❤️ his cheating ass!! I never understood why Quincy got mad at Monica because she wasn’t there to console him for the entire night when he found that his father was cheating! Thanks for doing this movie! It’s one of my favorites!
No slow jams!? 😔 Gossiping about who would get to dance with Pretty Ricky, and then who actually got to dance with him when we got back to school on Monday was the height of teenage drama. 😂
I’m 21 years old. As for my understanding from growing up in the 2010s and so forth, I don’t think we used the term tomboy too much at least down here in Louisiana where I’m from. I normally wore gender neutral clothes growing up until middle school (jeans & tshirts) normally if a girl wore masculine clothes then they’d label her as alternative or alt for short… since they are going against the norms. (Baggy clothes baggy pants stuff like that). So I guess they would label Monica as maybe alternative or like a tomboy aesthetic.
@@HeitCheri No problem, but I believe if the movie was made in today's standards, I suppose maybe Monica would appear a little more masculine than in the movie. I guess I just thought she looked like a average teenage girl for the most part lol!
Orchestral hits are dope,Heit..maybe not in 'Just Go Paid'..but you know Teddy was still young when he did that track..Hits might go better for film scores vs a dance song.🤣
Fake and Bake!!! Chiiile Gen Xer here, and the boy that jumped out my window and threw rocks 🪨 rocks 🪨 at it is now my husband!! I knew him since I was 10 and he was 12 he was around the way boy!! I was the good girl who was sheltered and barely went outside!! And I found him fascinating ❤❤He was rough around the edges, but I knew then that I wanted him in my life forever! I would sneak him up the steps to my room we weren't having sex then. Well, at least I wasn't, so he slept on the floor. My room was in the back, so if he had to use the bathroom, it was right next to my room. He would jump out the window in my room to home!! Ahhh memories ❤❤❤❤😅😅
I always had the impression that the mom might have had ulterior motives when she got with Quincey Dad - and perhaps there is that resentment that’s he’s taking about when he mentions ( keeping her in fine clothes) because maybe they grew apart a long time ago - Side note great 2 see y’all back on RUclips I ❤ your commentary on classic films Happy Easter 🐣
It is a dumb movie but a lot of women missing the point; Monica was selfish asf. Quincy had every right to leave, but on his end he was just like his dad, also had a hard time handling his emotions.
and people say I’m wrong when I genuinely say there isn’t a good guy. While some or few may exist their mindsets and beliefs are such examples of films like this and other black films. The best man with lance cheating on Mia and hurting her throughout college and when she did it, he was so hurt as if he wasn’t doing it to her for a long time. This with Quincy wanted Monica to drop everything for him and risk herself when he had an extra help with who his father was to Baby Boy with Jodie and I won’t even get into him like the examples of bad men figures and behavior was constant and everyone now is waking up to see it
Fake N Bake This movie is so freaking toxic but I love it! Omar Epps is definitely all time crush ❤❤❤ me and my bestie tried to sneak some boys in when we were like 15 and got caught by her mom!
Well, saying “what’s up Black!” It’s could have been jab, but I remember seeing dudes both being the same complexion greeting each other like that casually.
I think guys didn’t ask Monica out like that because she was too much of a tomboy. They probably all thought she was a lesbian, like Heit pretty much said
We know there are college rejection letters, but we were specifically talking about recruitment rejection letters. So you're saying that they send you an athletic recruitment rejection letter?
He dog her and finally at he realized he wanted her. I would had kept it pushing if i was her smh. But I guess it ended up how it should be. I attended Crenshaw high school when this movie was being made..m cousin ex wife was one of main cheerleader at the 1st game..and i remember some of the student..but I was only at Crenshaw for 2ys b4 i attended another high school for fashion design.
@@HeitCheri sorry i was typing fast. But yes i went to Crenshaw 9th and 10th. So remember flyers around the school that this movie was going to be made. And some of extra would be use of the students..most of the students i remember them their names idk but faces yes. That main cheerleader my cousin i believe they dated and got married or was thst his 2nd wife lol..but Crenshaw was my high school my whole family on my mom side high school for at least half of my 1st generation cousin. Than i went to a high school for fashion design and they had other major at the school as the school is call downtown businesses high school..
How is she going to say she loved him since she was 11 it won't go away. To me no one really knows what love is at that age. And she did care more about basketball than.until Q goes out with another woman
But when they had sex the 1st night he used protection. With Monica and why the mother didn't respond to Monica or them having sex and she said the girls looking to get you caught
We are in our 40s... far from children. Couldn't it be possible that a musician might not like a particular era in a genre? For instance, I don't like Neo Soul... and there was a point when it was very popular and I couldn't stand it. That's just my personal preference...
We happen to know a little something about music publishing, etc. We also know that there are plenty of times when the person who wrote or contributed to writing a song is not credited. Charlie Wilson discussed in an interview that he was involved in the writing of that song. We specifically said he discussed writing that song in an interview--that's where that reference came from.
Part 2 is coming. However, this part was originally 2 HRS long, but we had issues with RUclips. As a result, the 2-hr version is only available to Patreon and channel members because we had to place it elsewhere. I'm sorry about this...
I don't like some of the end of the movies he said you don't pull this on me about to get married what about the other girl in the end how they ended it like that I felt she had something to say and was 😡 mad
I'm honestly very Warm at the fact that you both cared enough about being progressive. To reply to the use of tomboy, I don't speak for the community as I am just one person but my understanding that gender identity is much personal as much as it is social. So tomboy would still be politically correct because for all we know, She still identifies as a cis woman but just doesn't follow the gender norms. Tomboys would be categorized as gender fluid. Also the masculine traits in this movie is her being assertive, and rather independent which doesn't fall in line in contrast to her highly feminine mother and sister. But the only extra mile with her is the dressing and presentation. But like you've said, black cinema is very conservative so this is the best we can sum up.
I hear you and even though it's not a death sentence today, because I come from an era where death was pretty much guaranteed, that's how I'd see it. The point here is that the younger people today seem quite unconcerned about it as compared with those of us who come from the "strap it up or die" generation.
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I’ll never understand Quincey getting mad at Monica because she couldn’t console him from his daddy cheating. Like grow up I beg😂
And then he proceeded to be exactly his dad😂😂😂
Yeah that was crazy
I think it was just her putting basketball before him and her knowing that if it was her he would put her first so it was the disappointment of her not willing to do that same
Well she offered to have him come back with her to her dorm he could’ve did that she was trying to be there for him and if she stayed she wouldn’t have started and she would always resent him for that
@@ahrenb3393 in reality, men will ruin a woman’s life if she lets him, she did what she needed to do.
I feel compelled to add that: the texture of her hair throughout the film was intentional symbolism. Whenever it was in its natural state she was in her natural state. It wasn't politically correct or socially acceptable (she nor her hair) but she was who and what she was unapologetically.
She, however, would change her hair; transform, if you will for the sake of acceptance (by quincy exclusively).
The examples of picked women in this film, from their moms, to Shaunie Easton, to Tyra Banks all had their hair pressed which was a contrast from Monica's which would be considered unruly.. just as her spirit was.
Seeing Quincy in the days leading up to his marriage to Tyra, Monica finally straightened her hair again and then took it a step further with wearing heels and then even Q had to call her out on her dishonest aesthetic.
The final scene was paramount because she had Q, the conquered misogynist and their baby watching her as she finally achieved everything she wished for while not having to sacrifice her true self fully. Notice her hair is no longer straight in that scene
The hair does tell a story of its own indeed...
Wasn't her hair a longer straight ponytail ? I love your breakdown, explain that part better lol
💯 similar to Brandy's Borderline video, where the hair has its own story
Very, VERY insightful comment.
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Lol. I remembered it wrong 😂
Well the whole movie is not dumb but Quincy getting mad at Monica is so stupid to me
The whole movie is dumb he been getting mad at her since they were young
I never understood why he got SO mad. Like yeah, be disappointed, but understand that she wasn't being malicious and she obviously cared about him.
Cherie was saying Monica had anger issues but really, Quincy had the most issues with his anger in this movie tbh. He pushed her into the ground and permanently scarred her face, he blows up at her over curfew, he blows up at his father, and then when Monica confessed her love for him and he acted horrible. He didn't have to reciprocate her feelings, he chose to go entertain her. Quincy is the hothead.
@MissSimone02 he was a spoiled brat that was use to getting his way an when he didnt he always got mad at her an took it out on her ...
You don't understand men then
I cannot watch this film or baby boy. Sanaa's character here and Taraji's in baby boy are too u relatable to me. They're not strong enough for me. The toxicity and pandering to their dust mites is a 🙅🏿♀️ 👎🏾!
Yes same!!! I used to always tell people and till this day I can’t stand those movies and will not watch that nonsense. It be triggering me lol
FAKE-N-BAKE. I don’t think Q’s mom trapped his dad. Fun facts: Omar Epps’ name was Q in Juice as well. Him & Sanaa Lathan were also in The Wood, Him & Tyra Banks were also in Higher Learning, Sanaa Lathan & Regina Hall were also in The Best Man, Disappearing Acts & The Best Man Holiday, those two & Monica Calhoun were also in The Best Man & The Best Man Holiday, Sanaa Lathan & Alfre Woodard were also mother & daughter in Something New & The Family That Preys, Regina Hall & Gabrielle Union were also in Think Like A Man & Think Like A Man Too, Omar Epps & Gabrielle Union were also in Almost Christmas & Sanaa Lathan & Boris Kojoe were also in Brown Sugar.
Being just as old as this movie I can say I never watched all of it because I could never get over how Monica just let him do her any kind of way. That “play me for your heart” scene is the reason why I act the way I do when it comes to men 🤣🤣 (I like to be reassured over and over while I act uninterested until I deem it safe)
Girl you single?
@@livelyfinnesse4477 lol it’s obvious? 😭😭
@@taquoriadunlap8407me too.
Monica went out like a loser...this movie was a sad warning for women.
It did not have a happy ending
I think Monica works so much harder because Quincy already has a step up with his dad and his connections to the NBA, allowing Quincy to get the help for his schooling.
So it's understandable that she is mad when the scholarship people come. Perhaps Monica knows it with Quincy, but she never wanted to say it or show it because that's her friend.
Boys didn't ask out the female athletes. Most likely because we didn't dress girly, didn't wear make up or lots of jewelry. They couldn't see the beauty back then. Imo. I didn't get asked out, someone else tend to "find" my dates
I'll still call myself a tomboy despite being an adult. But I can say I branched out with liking dresses but with pockets for practicality.😊
Dresses with Pockets are undefeated
"I'm gonna be the first girl in the NBA." There was a woman in the NBA. Her name was Lusia Harris and she was drafted in 1977 by the New Orleans Jazz. And she was a Black woman too.
Thanks so much for sharing this! I had to go and read up on her right quick. Just the idea that she's the one and only woman to ever be drafted by the NBA.. Wow!
Didn't she pass away?
@@TF-gf3fs In 2022
A cliffhanger? Can't wait for Part 2
👏👏👏👏they don't give her enough love, even after she died.
I hate the fact that he had a whole fiancé and he dropped her like it was nothing. Imagine being engaged to someone thinking they’re the love of your life only for them to tell you they’ve been in love with their childhood friend and the wedding is off…granted the marriage prolly wouldn’t be good anyway since he was in love with someone else but that’s crazy…
Monica sister doing her hair wit no lotion no moisture making me ITCH
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Our so called loved ones are our laziest supporters. If only I could change you, others would love you more.
Fake n Bake and Quincy's Mama DEFINITELY trapped his Daddy. I got the sense that she thought she was trapping him for "love" and not necessarily for "gold". The high potential of money, a comfortable lifestyle, and a handsome/famous husband was definitely a perk, but she wanted the fairy princess turned queen ending. She thought that she would have a rich lifestyle, a gifted/talented child, and a famous handsome husband who would only have eyes for her. Woman who trap for "gold" really aren't caring about how many meetings her man has or how long he stays away from the house. Their antennas only go up when there is a loss of money or the man isn't showing interest in sharing the money.
How do you trap someone for love?
@@DioneDion13to marry and/or have a baby w/ someone for main purpose of her hoping that they may solidify the relationship and create commitment. Some ppl marry to GROW in love… others marry because they already fell in love. IMO…. Quincy parents probably once lusted after another n then loved eachother but not the degree that their love could substain the “wandering eyes” , temptation & the fame that comes with being married to a ball player . Quincy’s mom possibly thought their “love” for one another would triumph any temptation he had to cheat w/ another women.. but clearly that wasn’t enough …
@dallisvon Thank you for explaining. I've been trying to figure a way to explain this type of behavior, but couldn't quite find the right way.
(FnB) As a viewer, it's obvious that they ALWAYS loved each other. The best part of the movie is watching the two main characters figure out what the audience already knows.
Facts!!!
The shock on my face when Heit called the baby Monica a munch 😮😂😂😂😂😂😂
😆😂😆
That came from nowhere and I fell out too 😂😂😂!
Fake-n-bake. I’m so glad yall are reviewing this movie. Yall be having me cracking up. This was my favorite movie as a kid. I remember when it came out, I think I was in 3rd grade. I loved the music in this film and others like the wood because it introduced me to what people were listening to back in the day and I loved going down those rabbit holes. I listen to these songs to this day. ❤❤
Gen Xer here. No boy jumping outta my window, but my stepdad stopped a boy from trying to jump IN, uninvited.
In a strange turn of events, I ended up in an altercation with that lunatic almost 30 years later.
OMG, he tried to jump in your window!?!That's crazy!
Oh my goodness
I said somewhere else that this movie has romance between the characters but that’s not the story of the film, Q and Monica had to learn to discover themselves outside of basketball and they could only do that while apart, their stories are very relatable and realistic on how it is to grow up changing your outlook on something you thought was your everything, both did this at the same time in reverse….I find that VERY interesting as a guy in his 20s, that’s what makes the romance more compelling with them growing up together
I’d still change the ending for Q to go after Monica for her heart without the fiancé, I could never buy that Q could settle down with less than Monica, I mean she never could without Q right?
I certainly think this film has many more themes than a lot of people give it credit for.
@@HeitCheri it really does, it’s one of my favorite films for that reason
i can definitely relate to her asking her mom if she really thought she was beautiful. i myself am guilty of this because i wasn’t always told by my mom that i was beautiful. it’s the reassurance from your mom that honestly makes a difference especially if you weren’t always told. loved the commentary ❤
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QUINCY WAS HORRIBLE!!!
Worse than his father, because HE was THE provider...
I hated this movie...he "played" her goofy behind from the beginning till the end.
It was not a happy ending...for Quincy, maybe...for ALL of the men in the movie, really.
The women looked like IDIOTS the entire time.
I could never understand how she could still want to be with a man that doesn't "want her"?
...that didn't make sense to me as a 13 yo...it makes less sense now.
Well there's certainly room for different opinions on this film... 😊
I’m so use to Regina Hall playing Brenda on Scary Movie I barely recognized it was her lol
😂 I know! She really is quite a versatile actress!
@@HeitCheri Sure is she’s super talented
I haven't watched the movie in years so I don't recall if Q”s mom had told his dad that she was on birth control. If she did that would be the only way I would entertain the trapped word. My husband and I have 3 sons we teach them that they alone have the responsibility to wrap it up, and prevent disease and pregnancy. Thanks for taking a new look at this classic.
I don't care, I still have a soft spot for this movie because I grew up watching it. This, Love Jones and Brown Sugar were on frequent repeat growing up.
As far as boys climbing out the windows? I'm a young millennial, so that never happened to me. I did get in trouble for having a boy talk to me outside the fence, which my mom still doesn't believe me to this day that he never came inside the fence, let alone the house. But my mom told me (she's Gen X) that she got busted with a boy hiding in her closet 😂 Had to be around '92 or '93 because she graduated HS in '94.
I also got in trouble for some inappropriate texts that were sent to me when I was 14! I was grounded and didn't even have the dang phone, my mom had it, and we were having a slumber party in the living room that night with my big cousin. 😂 I'll never forget how she cussed me out and it wasn't even my fault! My cousin has to really convince my mom that I never had the phone that night, she saved my ass even though I was the recipient and not the sender 😅
😆 We didn't even have cell phones! 🤦🏿♀️
@HeitCheri 😅 I was 14 in 2008 and had a flip phone. iPhones were for bougie people then.
I think it was the sprinkler thing that pokes out the grass that cut her face
Ohhhh ok!
I hated this movie. He was mean to her from the beginning to the end. He never apologized. He was even shoving her in the last game playing for his rotten, evil heart.
That title got me upset 😭😭😭 love y’all will be watching when I get off ☺️
😆😁 You know we love to mess with y'all with these titles! ❤ I can't wait to hear your thoughts about this one!
Oh BTW I do think Quincy's mom trapped him!!! She was about that life and lifestyle trap a baller crap!! Then it back fired on her!! He did to her what many ballers do, cheat and dip out and do what they want because they can!! Smh Thats why the father was like don't worry, we got enough money to keep your fine ass in Gucci and gold because she always loved the money and lifestyle!
Loved this y'all!!! Can't wait for part 2!!!
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Ohh geez yea the average scout only makes like at max $66k a year. I can only imagine how little it was in the 90’s. And it was before the NBA gave finacial literacy lessons.
Omg!!!! Thank yall, I been waiting for this one, definitely nostalgic ❤
Hope you enjoyed it!
Definitely.... as always
“What up black?” was slang for the time, the predecessor to “what’s up dog?”
Just curious, where are you from?
I've heard that phrase growing up in NC
Im a genx, a lot of people were out back then. More were dL. Guys were pushing up on girls if they were attractive. It didn't matter if they were thought to be gay or straight.
I think monica wasn't asked out, because guys thought she would reject them.
"What's up, Black" was a saying we used to say back in the day. It had nothing to do with colorism
Heit asking abt the legiticmacy of baby Monica's b ball injury..😂😂😂😂
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You know what yall doing with this title. I was ready to tussle, lol
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Over what a trash movie that shows women have to beg a man to be with them lol
Love the channel as always guys ready to dive and see y'all prescriptive on this classic
Appreciate it!
THANK YOU SO MUCH AS A TEEN I THOUGHT THEY WAS GOALS BUT THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE DUMBEST MOVIES I EVER SEEN
5:11 If you see she slid in the grass a lil lol Grass burns are the worst! I’ve had a few playing football with boys.
😂 Anything's possible!
This was my era....I played basketball and ran track and a tomboy. The guys just looked at me as just a friend. I was never asked to any dances. So, I went by myself.
Thanks for weighing in on this!
Hey , where did your other videos go guys -ones like Dead President and Higher Learning those breakdowns were wonderful
They're on our other channel @axiomamnesia 😄 There's a link to subscribe to that channel in the description of this video.
@@HeitCheri thank you
Fake and Bake. There's so much I always want to say, but there's plenty to speak on and I'll be editing my comment all day. I guess I'll choose to comment on Monica and Q's skills, since I used to hoop for Phillips. Shout out to 'Da P' Boys B-ball team for winning state.
Sanaa was absolutely believable as a hooper, but was a hell of a HACK! Then always had that dumb look on her face when they called a foul... You fouled! Omar Epps was absolute trash, but that's okay because their jobs are acting 😂.
Monica's dad grinded my gears with how he treated Camille.
In regards to Nona, I feel she was projecting onto Quincy, because she saw herself to some degree in the girls she wanted to protect him from.
Also also, I LOVE how y'all snuck this review on us! I just thought y'all were making conversation with the regular posts, not even thinking for a second y'all was about to drop this review. But now it's time to release part 2, don't make us suffer 😅!
Whitney's "I Will Always Love You" was a remake 💕
Yep, and so was "I Believe In You And Me"...
So yeah i remember that back then boys wanted to talk to the girls who were social and popular. Even i was like monica and i didnt even play ball. I wasnt in the scene! No hanging out with girls after school, or parties for the weekends. Yes boys would try to talk to me, but not ones i wanted 😂 thats crazy how much gets forgotten when you get old. Im 32, sexuality talk amongst us was def not a top reason why boys didnt holla. Tf😂😂😂😂😂
So this does not necessarily apply to your question because i wasn't an athlete but I was a tomboy and i am gender fluid as an adult, (she/he- to the community, it just means i am comfortable being portayed and perceived for both myself and my surrounding as either a man or woman) and i am mostly masc presenting and what i have realized that in real life, men are actually rather olay and most likely will go for tomboys because both genders tend to be homoerotic and havung a tomboy or masc oresenting girlfriend to them means havung the befots of being around women (attraction. Appeal) and men (she is like the homies, she just gets it)... at least on the surface. But the other side is that in highschool and social settings, relationships (well at least as to men), your gf is like an achievement therefore the mem that def date tomboys and masc oresenting or non conforming women today wouldnt have dated them in high-school for the base reason that the homies wouldnt approve. In conservative/ conservative black spaces in this case, that biy woukd be seen as gay or ridiculed for not havung a wimam that perfomes fully to her woman duties and that also means making sure that they look hot and appealing. It exolains why she had not been asked out to the dance. She is only performing one aprt of the fantasy and that is being a homie that understand about sports but not being thee lady to them.
P.S,they are not asking her out not out of respect of her possible sexuality. Because like you said. The assumption is that being gay cannot be real. They arent askin her out because they do not want to question their owm sexuality for finding such a masculine boy attractive.
Thank you so much for explaining this so clearly. This is such a complex and sensitive issue. I really appreciate you weighing in. ❤️
Your comment is so underrated -I appreciate your perspective.
Im 33 and Im so glad I slow danced in middle school and high school dances lol thank goodness. The youngins should be able to slow dance too lol
Nah they twerking and backing it up😂 ain’t no slow dancing
I used to be a tomboy and it was said at least 1 a week. I probably would call my daughter a tomboy if she were like me
43:20 Tanya Randell got pregnant and decided not to come 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I understand why Q. Got mad he was looking for her to console him as his girlfriend because he was in a vulnerable state - and she was putting her athleticism first because she was a ball player first and that was his resentment and made him think that maybe she couldn’t be the type of GF he wanted
@1:37:20 that was me! Lol 😂I’m throwing a party in may and guess what will be going down? A slow dance! 😂
Fake and Bake! I loved this movie as a youth, and I always felt like I looked like Sanaa even though everyone told me I didn’t 🤣🤣🤣…But you are right, there are not many love songs these days, and I think that’s why dating for many has been traumatic 🤣
We gotta bring back the love songs and the slow dancing and then maybe the love will follow!
@@HeitCheri absolutely! Keep up the great work!
❤❤ Fake & Bake❤❤❤. I don’t think 🤔 the mom “Nona” got pregnant 🤰🏽 on purpose! She seemed to sincerely love ❤️ his cheating ass!! I never understood why Quincy got mad at Monica because she wasn’t there to console him for the entire night when he found that his father was cheating!
Thanks for doing this movie! It’s one of my favorites!
No slow jams!? 😔 Gossiping about who would get to dance with Pretty Ricky, and then who actually got to dance with him when we got back to school on Monday was the height of teenage drama. 😂
I’m 21 years old. As for my understanding from growing up in the 2010s and so forth, I don’t think we used the term tomboy too much at least down here in Louisiana where I’m from. I normally wore gender neutral clothes growing up until middle school (jeans & tshirts) normally if a girl wore masculine clothes then they’d label her as alternative or alt for short… since they are going against the norms. (Baggy clothes baggy pants stuff like that). So I guess they would label Monica as maybe alternative or like a tomboy aesthetic.
Thanks for repping for your generation, because I didn't know this! We appreciate you weighing in on this. 😊
@@HeitCheri No problem, but I believe if the movie was made in today's standards, I suppose maybe Monica would appear a little more masculine than in the movie. I guess I just thought she looked like a average teenage girl for the most part lol!
Why they keep putting Tyra Banks as Q girlfriend they did that in Higher Learning
She was popular back then!
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Orchestral hits are dope,Heit..maybe not in 'Just Go Paid'..but you know Teddy was still young when he did that track..Hits might go better for film scores vs a dance song.🤣
Thatse fake ones and how they were used are just dated 😂
I really like Cheri and your thoughts 💭 are very well expressed ❤
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Fake and Bake!!! Chiiile Gen Xer here, and the boy that jumped out my window and threw rocks 🪨 rocks 🪨 at it is now my husband!! I knew him since I was 10 and he was 12 he was around the way boy!! I was the good girl who was sheltered and barely went outside!! And I found him fascinating ❤❤He was rough around the edges, but I knew then that I wanted him in my life forever! I would sneak him up the steps to my room we weren't having sex then. Well, at least I wasn't, so he slept on the floor. My room was in the back, so if he had to use the bathroom, it was right next to my room. He would jump out the window in my room to home!! Ahhh memories ❤❤❤❤😅😅
😂😂😂 Did y'allever confess to the unauthorized sleepovers?
@HeitCheri Absolutely not!!! You see, I'm still breathing to type this, don't you🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yess my favorite movie; y’all did a great job
Hope you enjoy!
I always had the impression that the mom might have had ulterior motives when she got with Quincey Dad - and perhaps there is that resentment that’s he’s taking about when he mentions ( keeping her in fine clothes) because maybe they grew apart a long time ago -
Side note great 2 see y’all back on RUclips I ❤ your commentary on classic films
Happy Easter 🐣
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4:28 and Mom was dead wrong for that statement !!! Don’t play yourself woman. You don’t have a job nor career to carry this burden of a house.
It is a dumb movie but a lot of women missing the point; Monica was selfish asf. Quincy had every right to leave, but on his end he was just like his dad, also had a hard time handling his emotions.
Quincy was selfish
Wait what happened to the rest? Wasn't this over an hour before?
Yep, RUclips is a trip. We're working on it...
@@HeitCheri Phew, okay I thought I was buggin 😂. Thanks for the response!
Not y’all putting my 1998 self on to all these classics! Greatest love of all remade by Whitney Houston but originally sung by George Benson
and people say I’m wrong when I genuinely say there isn’t a good guy. While some or few may exist their mindsets and beliefs are such examples of films like this and other black films. The best man with lance cheating on Mia and hurting her throughout college and when she did it, he was so hurt as if he wasn’t doing it to her for a long time. This with Quincy wanted Monica to drop everything for him and risk herself when he had an extra help with who his father was to Baby Boy with Jodie and I won’t even get into him like the examples of bad men figures and behavior was constant and everyone now is waking up to see it
Fake N Bake This movie is so freaking toxic but I love it! Omar Epps is definitely all time crush ❤❤❤ me and my bestie tried to sneak some boys in when we were like 15 and got caught by her mom!
The title already got me giving a side eye😂🤣
We love making y'all give us the side eye with these titles! 😆😂😆❤️
Well, saying “what’s up Black!” It’s could have been jab, but I remember seeing dudes both being the same complexion greeting each other like that casually.
Now that she met my minimum standards- Cheri.😂😂😂
I can't wait 😂
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Watching the movie the first time I didn’t think much of her going to prom with a college student. But now I got to wonder 💭
I think guys didn’t ask Monica out like that because she was too much of a tomboy. They probably all thought she was a lesbian, like Heit pretty much said
Fake n Bake! Looking forward to part 2!
What’s fake n bake?
There ARE rejection letters also.
We know there are college rejection letters, but we were specifically talking about recruitment rejection letters. So you're saying that they send you an athletic recruitment rejection letter?
Im 40. 100 percent remember the whole softball lesbian thing 😂
I knew I wasnt the only one who'd remember that!
He dog her and finally at he realized he wanted her. I would had kept it pushing if i was her smh. But I guess it ended up how it should be. I attended Crenshaw high school when this movie was being made..m cousin ex wife was one of main cheerleader at the 1st game..and i remember some of the student..but I was only at Crenshaw for 2ys b4 i attended another high school for fashion design.
Oh wow! That's so interesting!
@@HeitCheri sorry i was typing fast. But yes i went to Crenshaw 9th and 10th. So remember flyers around the school that this movie was going to be made. And some of extra would be use of the students..most of the students i remember them their names idk but faces yes. That main cheerleader my cousin i believe they dated and got married or was thst his 2nd wife lol..but Crenshaw was my high school my whole family on my mom side high school for at least half of my 1st generation cousin. Than i went to a high school for fashion design and they had other major at the school as the school is call downtown businesses high school..
@@MsDisneylandlover I think that is so cool. My sister was an extra in Love Jones when she was in high school!
@@HeitCheri kool. Well i wasn't in movie. I just remember all the student body lol
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How is she going to say she loved him since she was 11 it won't go away. To me no one really knows what love is at that age. And she did care more about basketball than.until Q goes out with another woman
We need A Sanaa Lathan and Regina Hall movie again their chemistry is great
“What’s up black” is not colorist. People used to endearingly greet each other ‘ BLACK’ back then
This seems to be regional. Where are you from or what was the region?
Lgbtq ex basketball player here. Idk monica is a head scratcher, i wouldve assumed she was bisexual.
I felt Monica even when she played in Best Man why she didn't go with him and wait then Nia Long tries to sleep with him before the wedding
Yeah, that was crazy!
But when they had sex the 1st night he used protection. With Monica and why the mother didn't respond to Monica or them having sex and she said the girls looking to get you caught
How when he knew the whole time he loved her
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New Jack Swing is trash!?!? How old are you children?????
We are in our 40s... far from children. Couldn't it be possible that a musician might not like a particular era in a genre? For instance, I don't like Neo Soul... and there was a point when it was very popular and I couldn't stand it. That's just my personal preference...
Wrong again. Roger and Larry Troutman wrote “I want to be your man”.
We happen to know a little something about music publishing, etc. We also know that there are plenty of times when the person who wrote or contributed to writing a song is not credited. Charlie Wilson discussed in an interview that he was involved in the writing of that song. We specifically said he discussed writing that song in an interview--that's where that reference came from.
And Monica mom should have been more supportive that's why she acted like she acted
I think her mother loved her very much, but really didn't understand her AT ALL.
Noooooo not the New Jack Swing era was trash. Noooo, Al B Sure Naturally Mine was my ish.
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Part 2 ?
Part 2 is coming. However, this part was originally 2 HRS long, but we had issues with RUclips. As a result, the 2-hr version is only available to Patreon and channel members because we had to place it elsewhere. I'm sorry about this...
@@HeitCheri understand
I don't like some of the end of the movies he said you don't pull this on me about to get married what about the other girl in the end how they ended it like that I felt she had something to say and was 😡 mad
I'm honestly very Warm at the fact that you both cared enough about being progressive. To reply to the use of tomboy, I don't speak for the community as I am just one person but my understanding that gender identity is much personal as much as it is social. So tomboy would still be politically correct because for all we know, She still identifies as a cis woman but just doesn't follow the gender norms. Tomboys would be categorized as gender fluid. Also the masculine traits in this movie is her being assertive, and rather independent which doesn't fall in line in contrast to her highly feminine mother and sister. But the only extra mile with her is the dressing and presentation.
But like you've said, black cinema is very conservative so this is the best we can sum up.
Thanks so much for weighing in on this! ❤️
Im sorry jdut because theres treatment dont mean it help the blow of having it....id still take it as a death sentece tonfay
I hear you and even though it's not a death sentence today, because I come from an era where death was pretty much guaranteed, that's how I'd see it. The point here is that the younger people today seem quite unconcerned about it as compared with those of us who come from the "strap it up or die" generation.
NO NO NO! “Black” is east coast slang for “black man”. Black, Kid, Son…. All that.
We specifically mentioned that in the video as well... We discussed the idea that it could be the slang--but remember they weren't on the East Coast.
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