Ruger LCP II .22lr (Good Ammo Vs. Bad Ammo)
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Ruger LCP II .22lr (Good Ammo Vs. Bad Ammo)
I got myself a Ruger LCP II .22lr and took it out to the range to test out the new spring kit I got from Galloway Precision. I was having some ammo problems with Armscor and Winchester ammo. I came to the conclusion that the problem was with the ammo because I was getting multiple strikes on the same round with no fire. Other ammo ran flawlessly.
These are the ammo I tested in this video:
Winchester Super X Powerpoint 40gr Hollow Point
Armscor 36gr Hollow Point
Federal 40gr Lead Round Nose
CCI Blazer 38gr Lead Round Nose
CCI Mini Mag Meateater 36gr Hollow Point
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I have heavily modified my LCP2 22LR. (trigger, springs & guide rod). It now functions flawlessly with ALL quality ammunition. The most reliable brand of 22LR ammunition that I have found is: "CCI", which ALWAYS functions flawlessly in every 22LR that I have tried it in.
What kind of cci are you using? Standard velocity or stingers?
There should be a federal law banning Winchester from making 22lr ammo.
I’m about to go out to the range soon and just shoot out the box. Not sure how many good ones I’ll get out of it but I would imagine not many 😆
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4:14 😂😂😂😂 worst anniversary ever
Winchester sux. Mine likes CCI, Aguila, Federal bulk. No modification is necessary with decent ammo.
I agree, I hate Winchester ammo.
Thanks for the info picking mine up soon 👍
Had the same issues with the Super X. I actually gave the rest of them to my buddy hoping he would have better luck with them. All I use is CCI Mini mags and Velocitor out of my LPC 2 and have never had a issue yet far.
Have you tried Aguila Super Extra ?
My idea is that the winchester are not seating fully in the chamber and as a result the firing pin is pushing the round further in but now there's not enough force to ignite the round. Try polishing the metal to metal surfaces everywhere
You might be right about that. I’m editing a new gun video right now and got very different results with the Winchester. If not up tonight, it will be up by tomorrow.
I have 450 rounds through mine with the only failures being two Federal AutoMatch duds. They wouldn’t even fire in my Glock 44, no matter how many times I turned them. Note, the only change I made was the stronger extractor spring via Galloway. Winchester, absolute crap, especially the anniversary box. My friend, who has the same gun I do, exactly mirrored your experience of not being able to get through a single magazine. My buddy has over 2000 rounds through his and has never had a CCI MiniMag ammo failure. He says for some reason his gun likes rounds nose cartridges, and it’s important to clean it often.
It’s weird how guns and ammo work sometimes. You’d think that ammo in guns would go bang because that’s what it’s suppose to do. Then you buy a box of duds and it’s like dude, just go bang and make a happy day at the range lol.
I love mine, great plinker. The only ammo mine likes is CCI or Fiocchi. My favorite mod is the mag extension from Tandom Cross for added grip and +4 rounds. I also put a little Glo paint on the sights.
CCI mini mag is the only ammo I trust. Had the same experiences as you had. I had the Galloway kit also, but it didn't help any.
The light strikes look pretty solid crushing the rim
Yea after a few more tests with other guns, it’s definitely the ammo.
Aguila worked the best in mine, followed by CCI
Our lcp absolutely choked on the Winchester, we believe the issue is the truncated nose of the bullet doesn't feed well...aguila and federal also were problematic...so far, the best ammo we have found are the mini-mags and thunderbolts, of all things...one note: the dirtier the gun gets the more problems, but for 3 magazines it does pretty good...
_It's a hundred year anniversary...well they're not having a very good anniversary..._
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Mine went back to Ruger two days after I bought it. I experienced ~20% FTF's with a variety of ammunition - Stingers, Yellojackets, Federal bulk, CCI standard velocity, Aguila Super Extra, 3 types of Eley match ammo, and maybe a couple others. I put over a thousand rounds through it, and cleaned it every 150 rounds. Ruger replaced the hammer and hammer spring, and said it functioned 100% with Aguila. The light strike problem is pretty much gone now, but with Aguila Super Extra, the slide lock engages once almost every magazine, so maybe it's the heavier bullet causing that. Stingers often jam the bullet against the top of the chamber, probably due to the slightly longer case.
I'll buy some other brands and experiment some more before I completely write it off.
try cci Velocitors
You ABSOLUTELY nailed it. Another good video!
Thanks again man.
Bought the Ruger LCP II 22lr recently and thus far staying with CCI Mini-Mag, Federal Punch, and may try Aguila SuperMax.
I had the same problems with Winchester and Remington ammo. Too bad. In theold days they were reputable companies.
So farr aguila super extra 38 grain is the maximum you should use in an lcp 2 a 40 grain even the cci wont cycle after the gun is dirty but 38 grain like aguila super extra is just perfect
Just left range w/ the winchesters, 5 thumbs down. the cci mini mags ran great
50 rounds of aguilla ran flawless too
I had to put in a full spring kit AND a custom firing pin AND reshape the slide lock spring just to get this junk to work. EXTREMELY disappointed in Ruger. You shouldn't have to rebuild a new gun!
I do have to blame Winchester and Armscor for bad ammo but for any other ammo, it should run flawlessly. I ended up trading this gun for an LCP Max. I love it. I probably won’t have to change anything on it. It’s my latest video if you’re interested.
Great video brother. I recently did the spring and trigger upgrades to my LCP 2. Looking forward to trying it out at the range soon. At least I’ll know what ammo to try. Thanks.
No problem, thanks for watching.
100 year anniversary for the Winchester ammo? Maybe 100 years ago that ammo was considered pretty good, but by modern day standards it's garbage. Maybe they think that their reputation will carry them indefinitely?
Nice little pistol 👍🏻 Great to see a shooting video
Thanks man. I don’t get much alone time at this range lol.
@@TheOutdoorExperience I believe it 👍🏻….. doesn’t look like a lot of elbow room on the range. I bet it gets crowded quick. Have a good one bro. Look forward to seeing what’s next
(New sub) I have the same gun. All sorts of issues, especially failures to extract spent shells. I think Ruger needs to sit down and take a look at what they did right and what they did wrong with this pistol and maybe start over. They make legendary .22s, just... not this one.
I've heard of others having a lot of issues with this one and then those like me that have just minor issues with certain types of ammo. I did get a few failed extractions before changing the springs. Now the only problems I have is just bad ammo. So far only the Armscor and Winchester. Everything else, failure to feed, failure to extract, that stopped after the springs.
If you were having light strikes, you would have problems with every brand of ammo you tried. I’ve had the same problem with that same ammo in several guns, including that gun. If you can’t have a dud, try CCI mini mag.
Looks like very old Winchester ammo. Try CCI or Aguila they both work great in my LCP2.
its not light strikes its the winchester ammo its junk it does not work in my lcp
I did the spring kit and trigger on mine and unfortunately I didn’t see any difference, but I pretty much only had issues with lite strikes. I had good luck with Aguila and armscor, but horrible luck with Fiocchi which surprised me
Armscor was horrible with this gun but cci mini mag hp segmented worked the best
The stingers aren’t working for me
Well done video thank you.
winchester 22lr just sux and has for many years,i like aguila and cci
Ours likes cci, but aguila not so much...crazily, the gun sings on thunderbolts, of all things...autos in .22 are just weird...
I have had the same problem with Winchester 40 grain 1435 fps Super X in the red plastic case. I think it must be something about how they are primed. I bet they work fine in a bolt action.
I’ll be giving them a try in my rifles soon and also a new 22 gun that I just picked up recently. Gotta get to the range at the break of dawn to be alone lol
We think it is the flat, truncated nose of the super x that is causing the problem...in revolvers and lever actions the ammo runs just fine...
Never had those problems in the old days...
Winchester used to make good 22lr ammo?
@@rob6850 - Yep. Failure was not an option.
Winchester ammo only works in my lever action Henry .22, it's just so dang awful in any semi auto for some reason.
I had the same poor experience with Winchester Super X ammo in my LCP 22.
Seems like a lot of people have in the comments. At least I know it’s not just me or my gun.
Thank you and others for taking one for the team. I won't dare buy that ammo and a few others. I don't have enough range time to waste on ammo very likely to yield bad results.
Mine works with CCI, Aquila, Federal and Remington Viper. Winchester ammo is crap. Shitty prime in their rims.
Cranky Gun Reviews said those 36 grain Armscor rounds ran well in his LCP2... I seen in another thread that you sold this gun... So your verdict, is the gun junk or do you still think it was just bad Armscor and Winchester X ammo ? And if it was just the ammo it seems like all these other brands ran flawlessly for you, so why sell it off ?
Researching to buy...
I appreciate your time spent in responding, thanks
So I replied with another comment then deleted it because I realized that I was talking about a different gun. I thought it was the LCP II .380 video lol. So anyway, I sold the LCP II .22 to a buddy of mine because one, he really wanted one and couldn’t find it and two, I really wanted a .22 revolver more than the LCP II .22 so I got a Smith & Wesson model 43C.
Thanks for responding... After watching your gun video's I think you should make alot more of them. You're actually very good at it...being that you're thorough and detailed oriented in presentation...
Thanks again, good job n' God bless you and yours brother
Thanks a lot. I would love to get out to the range more. The problem is that there is only one nearby and there are always people there. I can’t film a range video unless I’m alone. Also, some of the people that go there are kinda shady. Most of my range videos are early morning just after sunrise but I’m not a morning person either lol. I wish I lived in the country with my own range or at least knew someone who does lol.
What is it with major manufacturers, and having to modify their guns in order to make them work?
Not so much modifying but just replacing certain parts with more reliable parts. Like a stronger mag release spring to prevent mag drops while firing or lighter recoil spring to prevent stovepiping. I've seen videos on this LCP II .22 that didn't need a single thing done to it and others needed replacement parts. I guess not every part is made the same and will be fine in some guns and cause issues in others.
Im with you. Out of the box it shouldn’t need a spring kit with a different rate to function properly. If the aftermarket can figure it out, Ruger should have been able to figure it out. But being they didnt, and the pistol fit all the needs i had for it except the reliability, i took a chance on that same spring kit and that resolved all my firearm reliability problems with it. Still get dud rounds that are prone to cheap bulk 22. But have not had a failure one of any sort with the ammo i carry in it, federal punch. To be honest it has done well with everything ive run through it except stingers, think their just a bit too long for my chamber. Golden bullets ive had a couple duds , aguila has been dang reliable , i ran a brick of Winchester white box bulk through it with no failures tho some were audibly weaker than others. Have done alot of reading on videos like this in the comments, results definitely vary. I hope this lack of consistency isn’t foreshadowing of whats to come of ruger on down the road because i have never had one of their products be anything but flawless until i got my lcp2,strangly tho im not really mad. Just hope they get it together.
Doesn’t look like a light strike to me. Looks like crappy ammunition.
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22 ammunition is made low quality.
Crappy ammo can still help train malfunction clearing to be second nature.
Winchester BAD!!! -Seriously, I love the way it shoots....WHEN it shoots, at least 3 duds per 222 round box. Just for plinking, and only for the patient... lol
Lol they are not having a good anniversary 🤣
I read that on the box and it just came to me after all those bad rounds 😂