Awesome stuff, I added the spring kit per your recommendation, and also did their trigger too, absolutely love the thing, it’s a fun little guy to shoot, I bought two extra mags and added the Wingman TK +4 extensions, and have had good luck with em, they feel great in hand too…The main difference I experienced with the spring kit is no light primer strikes anymore, or at least hardly ever….I load it with 11 of those Aquila 40 grain round points, and polish the wax off the bullet, and have found myself carrying the little guy a bunch with one of those kydex BORA11 trigger guard holsters, it weighs nothing, and I trust the setup…
It’s kinda funny seeing someone else that loves that gun as much as I love mine😁 and I also take it with me to the range every time I go. As the matter of fact I’m usually handing it off to others around me to shoot it too just because I get such a kick out of shooting it i figure they will too! I also turn people on to a video I stumbled across, and I encourage everyone who loves 22 to watch it. The channel is called Beyond Seclusion and the video is called .22 lr FOR SELF DEFENSE?? Pretty impressive video, and it’s an lcp2 with CCI segmented rounds
I shot about 500 rounds out of mine last week….Round nose ammo feeds the best through mine including Federal Automatch…..I also shot some CCI stingers with no feed failures…..I did have a few failures to fire with both types of ammo though…….I installed a Armalaser laser on the trigger ring which allows accuracy at any angle but I had to buy a new pocket holster……
Sorry you didnt have the results out of the spring kit i did. I had high hopes. Thanks for taking time to put this out here. I shoot mine a good bit but not quite as much as you. All in all I’ve been extremely happy with this pistol. But out of the box it was a bit of a disappointment for me. I just chocked mine’s failures to ruger trying to do too much in too small of a space. After reading up on other people that have them results seem to vary wildly. I guess they aren’t really consistent with this model. Thank you again.
My LCP .22 is much more reliable since I removed the magazine disconnect. It was running about 90% but since the mod I've put several different boxes through it with zero problems. I did this mod to fix the crunchy trigger & it is much smoother now. It has one crisp break instead of 2-4 mushy breaks. Shooting smaller groups now.
Don't have as many rounds through mine (maybe 1500) but finding similar results. The Eley Club, as you have found, and SK standard work well (which may be due to their tallow/beeswax coating). The more I shoot mine the more I find that previously "bad" ammo now seems to work. Most of the CCI ammo works, and am glad to see that their Target works, since I can get 50 for $4.83 at Walmart (yes, after many months and not much in the way of answers from WM personnel, they have this on the shelf consistently now).
It’s crazy how people say the lcp2 is ammo picky. I’m lucky because mine has ran everything so far. Albeit a couple failures here and there but really it ruins everything.
It could possibly be "crazy" if it was one guy professing something that everyone else objectively didn't experience. However, in this case, the rarity is the claim that the lcp is not ammo sensitive. I personally know more than one other RUclips "gun guy" that has had the standard issues with the lcp that hundreds of others have reported. If yours is different, post us a video showing you successfully firing hundreds of rounds of different brands of ammunition that the rest of us have struggled with. Simple...
I like the 32acp round, and the lcp would be more capable and better handling had it been offered in that caliber. That said, I'm sure Ruger chose 380 and 22lr because they are far more readily available, and 380 is generally better accepted as a self-defense round than the 32. Realistically, I don't think there's a big difference when it comes to real-world effectiveness. I have been toying with the idea of hand-loading sone lighter 380 rounds for use in my LCP Max that would compare in performance and recoil to a semi hot 32acp.
Great video sir! I love my lcp ii and have had no problems at all with 5k rounds through mine other than 10 or 15 duds on cheap ammo not firing..Ive had no failure to feeds so far...👍
Not an owner of this gun but really like it based on all the reviews I read and from what my understanding of the Galloway spring replacement kit. From reading some of the vids regarding these kits it appears to be the case of when from ...new ..some of these guns give issues, the Galloway kits replacement alleviates the problem. If yours worked flawlessly from the start I guess that kit would not really make much difference. That's just from reading multiple reviews on the Ruger LCp II 22LR...and I mean multiple😃
Yep. That's the consensus. But there's a relatively broad spread of functionality with these particular guns, and considering Ruger's ability to make a good firearm very consistently, it's hard to say what it is that's the determinant variable.
I've had the same issues with Federal Punch and CCI Stingers, with my LCP 2 22LR. CCI Mini Mags so far work the best. Will try the Aguila next time to the range. I had been considering that spring kit, will hold off till I test Aguila, thanks for the excellent video.
This has been one of the most reliable 22lr semi autos own. It has tun everything i have put in it. Now i wish they would make a 4 inch threaded upper. That would make a great 4inch subcompact amd with the tandemkross 4 plus one mag extender. I did have to get the extra power recoil spring to get federal punch to work reliably.
I don't know what the actual barrel length is, but Ruger makes a threaded version for this gun that seems to be pretty legit for $160. I was contemplating getting it, but ended up just getting the supressor ready m&p compact because it would kind of defeat the advantages of the lcp's small size to add barrel length and a suppressor.
@@johnnyshootsalot yeah i like the super thin profile of the lcpii. The existing threard barrel option can be found for about 100.00 if you hunt for it. It still a 2 3/4 imch barrel threaded. I don't want to go much bigger in width or height than the kel tec p17 The lcpii profile would lend itself to a great 22lr semi auto. Oh well i man can dream
Mine also will not reliably cycle the federal punch I had been attributing it to the nickel plating on the cases, but I didn't know that the cases were actually longer I get on average 3 to 5 failures to extract per 50-round box It's been happily munching down CCI Mini Mags however I have yet to acquire any velocitor, which seems to be the recommended defense round for this pistol
got the spring kit myself. Plus i gently re shaped the feed lips from the mags. Just rolled the lips on some ar500. Seems to keep em from making the round just stand up and not go in the pipe. After about 2000 rounds mine is darn good.
Appreciate your videos on this gun. I have had very good results with Aguila ammo until I got a 500 round box and found it to be a sticky mess. It was like someone spilled a coke in it then let it dry. It gummed up my 6 mags also. Had to clean each round with mineral spirits. I looked on the internet to see if anyone else had this problem and low and behold yes someone else had the same exact problem. I reported this to Aguila and they wanted a copy of my receipt which I had threw away so no luck there. I think keeping your mags really clean is a good thing to do to keep malfunctions low. I still use Aguila because it runs better than the mini mags with my experience.
I have encountered a box of over waxed Aguila as well. I think it was a 250ct. Like a syrupy mess of oily wax. I basically just sprayed all the rounds down with some brake cleaner in a bowl, wiped them off a little with paper towels, and shot them all in the next day or two afterwards. I didn't have any particularly bad side effects from it. But overall, after running thousands of Aguila 22lr rounds over the past cpl of years, they are still the most consistent across the board in all of my different 22's. With the Mini-Mags being my 2nd choice.
Weirdly I've had Federal Punch run flawlessly through 150 rounds. Stingers I had a few failures before I installed the Galloway kit. Now they ran through 100 rounds with no issues. Velocitors I haven't retried yet. Before the Galloway kit Aguila's Super Extra just straight up refused to run in my gun. Same with Federal Automatch ammo. Those bulk box ammo's just refused. After the kit it minimized those problems. Aguila's problems were all ammo related after the kit just 2 duds out of 500 rounds. Automatch was better but that wax cover is odd and the gun just doesn't like it with the occassional failure to feed. Happened with all 3 of my magazines so I know it isn't a bunk mag. The most reliable for my gun so far is just Standard Velocity CCI's. I've ran 800 rounds of it and I have not had a single failure before or after the kit install. I'm surprised I haven't even had a single dud round. I'm not almost 2200 rounds in. I love the gun. It's fun to shoot and to use as a practice gun for my LCP Max. No I don't get live recoil training for the .380 but it's still fun and is what it is. I've cleaned my gun after every range session except one time. The gun gets gunked up pretty bad and I just don't like leaving my guns like that after shooting them. But I honestly haven't had a failure due to the gun being dirty. It's just speculation at that point. It runs just as good dirty as it does after I clean it. That's just me personally what I've experienced after putting 300 rounds through it one session and 500 the next without cleaning. Though the lead tip CCI Standard's seem to foul up A LOT faster. After 200 consecutive rounds of it I definitely noticed it a lot more dirty than 500 rounds of Aguila.
My Ruger LCP II jam machine required all new springs including reshaping the slide lock spring, new trigger and custom firing pin. VERY upset that I had to REBUILD a brand new gun. I might as well of bought a Taurus!
Mmm, I don't know about much, but I know that Ruger's customer service is outstanding. Your comment gives me the feeling that you may be either exaggerating a fair bit or aren't telling the whole story. The lcps aren't perfect, but I've never encountered anyone, in person, who has had any of those type of issues without warranty covering it completely. And why wouldn't you just send it back to Ruger? They always take care of their customers and they pay shipping.
Thanks for the update...good info. I had a similar experience with some Remington Vipers I got a while back. The LCP II did not like them at all. A bunch of misfeeds and several outright duds. 100% with Aguila and mini-mags so far.
I've had opposite issues. Before I installed the Galloway kit, Aguila Super Extra would have a light strike multiple times each magazine. Mini-Mags would have failure to feed quite often. Haven't tried Vipers. After the kit install I only had Aguila fail twice out of a box of 500. Both of those failures were ammo problems they just straight up were duds. It's funny how we're all getting different outcomes.
@@Ali-7676 Yeah but it is a fun gun to take out in the woods when you wanna just target practice. It weighs practically nothing. Plus it is as reliable as .22lr can get at least with mine. I have around 8k-9k rounds through it since I got it. For the past 4k rounds I have thrown nothing but Aguila Super Extra and CCI Standards. I haven't had any malfunctions that weren't ammo related. It's like any gun that is picky with ammo.
@@tylerangle2269 I bought it for ankle carry but I think I'll go with a tiny .25acp or .32acp. I've put about 350 rounds through mine, CCI Stinger, Blazer, Mini mags, Aguila, Remington Thunderbolt. Everything gave me at least one issue per magazine with all 3 magazines. Thunderbolt was the worst. I've been told I need about 500 rounds to break it in. I've also been told to send it back to Ruger as I might just have a lemon on my hands. It is a fun little gun, I wish it was more reliable.
@@Ali-7676 I'd definitely choose your mentioned calibers before this little gun. I definitely trust mine from my testing. However there are many better options out there to carry. My LCP MAX is .380 is a pretty good choice for ankle carry. 10+1 or 12+1 is convincing for me. However these guns carry well in the pocket if you don't wear extremely tight pants. Mine just looks like a wallet in my front pocket. Whatever works for you!
damn, 7 thousand rounds! sorry to hear about the Federal Punch. i love it, and so far 250 rounds not a problem. i like the Remington Thunderbolt, can't find it in stores, haven't checked with co. yet, but that is impressive 7K total through mine only 1500 or somewhere around there. i just range fire every couple of months, but carry everyday, everywhere.
Yea, I've shot it a LOT! Getting ready to do the 10,000 round final review in the next few weeks. I had good luck with the Remington T-bolts too. Cheap and consistent. That Federal Punch works great in a lot of my .22s, but not the LCP. However, particularly since I play music for a living, the fact that it's loud af is a big drawback. If I lose my hearing, I'd just die of starvation slowly... I genuinely feel that the Mini Mags and both of the Aguila super extras are ALMOST as effective. I've taken quite a few raccoons with the Aguila hollow points, and they can deal a significant amount of damage.
@@johnnyshootsalot i agree, LOUD. and a lot of times the flame, or muzzle blast is evident also. but i also like the fact they remind me of the LONE RANGER, silver bullets.
I've shot probably 3000 rounds through mine...I did have problems with it when I first got it...it was a bad mag...Ruger made good on it...I've tried a lot of different ammo...mine likes the Federal Auto Match...Aguila...mini mags I just recently started having problems with them
@@RandomButtonPusher send me a mailing address to sosebeemusic@gmail.com and I'll throw a copy of that record in the mail for ya if you'll play it on your show.
I bought this gun for my wife to learn on to help prevent her from developing a flinch and I have never seen a less reliable gun in my life. You can’t even rack it with one in the pipe and one in the mag without causing a malfunction. The aguila seems to run ok, but this is nothing more than a range toy and there are much better and reliable .22 pistols out there if you want a cheap plinker. Do not buy this as a self defense pistol if you value your life or a loved ones life.
I have sent my gun back to ruger and it came back kinda fixed it does not like stingers or punch it loves fed auto match and cci mini mags with the red coating so thats what i carry and this is my new cci gun and my sw 43c with the punch ammo im 22 lr fan i have just about every kind of carry guns but this is it for me now at 74 my hands cannot take the punishment any more and lets face it you are only punching holes and they need to be in the right place not a problem with 22lr
I have sent my LCP.22 back to Ruger twice, so I am on my third barrel. I am trying to find some bulk ammo that works. It seems to have settled down and after many brands and types of ammo I do pretty good with Aguila 40 grain lead round nose super extra and Remington golden bullet 36 grain 525 bulk pack. It hates fed auto match. A man should not have to work this hard to get a firearm to work correctly. I guess it is because it is so easy to carry. I have fallen in love with the wrong kind of gun.
@@blackberryflash6893 there are just tradeoffs with smaller and smaller firearms. Can't expect them to function the same as a full sized gun. And after thousands of rounds, and every different type of ammo I could get a hold of, the Aguila 40g super extras have been the most consistently performing. I'd say Mini Mags are top 5 too.
The main thing I notice on the Ruger lcp 2 2lr is the feed ramp. The ramp had a bump just before the chamber, it appears the tooling adjust as it reached the chamber.
Mine didn't like federal punch, hated winchester white box or just about any flat nose ammo. I have found any 1200 fps and up round nose solid or HP seems to work fine in mine- Aguiila., Federal 36 grain, Armscor, Remington Gold bullet, even auto match has been ok... Mine has all factory parts except a mag disconnect delete, and mine runs pretty well. cleaning it every 100 rounds is bs- if thats the case, use better ammo. Only thing that runs that dirty is like thunderbolt.
Probaly by the time you put the galloway spring kit in your springs were probably funtioning about the same. I think had you done the kit eariler on you would have noticed s difference. My lcpii had bern shot ton smd i just put the galloway spring kit in. I did notice the trigger pull a bit lightet snd crisper. Waiting on their trigger. I think it will have a better feel. My lcpii 22lr has been running like a champ. Great stuff
I've had great luck with the stingers. But I had trouble with mine at first. The slide would lock back randomly and I completely ruled out my grip. I ground off much of the slide catch and that seems to have done it. Rounds were engaging the slide lock while cycling. I now have about 2k through it and I don't notice any pickiness other than a few failures to fire and stovepipes with cheap bulk ammo
I have considered buying one of those little Rugers but I have an old Jennings J22 that may or may not shoot depending on her mood ! Maybe I need a little.22 revolver.
sub'd today a left handed shooter. Saving up 4 one 4 longtime. As DAV $$ real tight sadly. on list @ several pawn shops 4 used one now. Was worried abt clicking the safety or mag release? TY 4ur fine intel. W/luck maybe git one b4 Christmas??
Thank you! The LCP is a solid choice. And a lot of fun to shoot, too. I don't know of any aftermarket magazines for the LCP 2. A 2 pack can be had online for $40-$50.
I think that you've worn in your springs enough with all the rounds that the new lighter springs aren't much of an improvement over the worn in originals.
I too installed the spring kit and trigger, and I do like the feel of the trigger but my gun didn’t function any different which was pretty disappointing, mainly because I had bought a 500 round box of Fiocchi that was horrible and I hadn’t tried many other brands at that time. Regardless you just have to try different things and see what works best.
I have several small pocket type pistols but the problem is they are kind of collectable or the value has shot up and that makes me not want to carry them. This pistol seems to fill that area of small, light, easy to shoot and not collectable.
I agree, to some extent. If you price any of the vintage pocket pistols by the asking prices on Gunbroker, then it would appear as if they're worth their weight in gold. But I've found that in most places, their actual selling prices are basically in-line with the higher quality new guns like the Beretta Tomcat and the like. I think you're spot on with the lcp being a cheap shooter that you could beat up and not worry much about.
@@johnnyshootsalot thanks for the info mine runs fine and minimags and even some cheap bulk ammo but I bought that Aquila that you use and I hope to try it out soon thanks for your content was a spring kit pretty hard to put in before I bought the gun I plan to do it but I haven't had any real issues with mine my wife had some trouble the not holding it tight enough and was limp wristing it . I carry it when I don't want to carry and it works out just fine.
@@chrisklein4366 funny enough, the cheaper remington "bucket 'o bullets" stuff ran great in mine. Aguila has been the most consistently reliable, though.
I've shot about 1000 rounds through mine before without really cleaning it. I notice that after 250+ it starts blowing fireballs... and it gets less reliable as it gets dirty.
Agreed. I have put 250-300 or so through mine in a single session without too much of a change in performance. But it certainly runs better when it's clean and lubed properly.
I love your update videos on the LCP 2 -.22. Very well done! I have probably 1000 rounds through mine, like many of my Ruger‘s, the slide is a little loose when I hold it in my hand and rotate it back-and-forth, left and right. I have that on some other Ruger ‘s as well, I think it’s a Ruger thing. Do you have the same thing happening on yours? I think Ruger just likes to have a little bit of play in the slide to where it rattles just a little bit.
Thanks, man! My LCP 2 is a little loose. But the LCP Max is very loose. I spoke to Ruger specifically about that, and they said that it was engineered that way purposefully.
I have had great luck with my LCP .22 since I put the Galloway spring kit in my gun. I wish you the of luck with yours but if it were me I would get rid of that gun.
Asking again, from a practical day and night shooting perspective, to hit targets, does the black lower and silver upper offer any advantage over all black? I am also open to paint some dots on the sights. What colors would you recommend?
I'm installing the springs right now and I'm struggling hard with getting the pin out of the hammer to put in the third spring. Really wanna get it installed to fix the reliability problems I'm having with it. But this pin won't budge. Any suggestions man?
I can't say that any of my pins were particularly stubborn, but I use a roll of duct tape covered in an old t-shirt to give me a stable, but hollow platform for driving out pins. And I would probably just tap tap tap it until I see some movement. If it is really not going anywhere, maybe sit the frame under a warm light to heat it up a little so that the polymer expands and softens JUST a bit.
@@johnnyshootsalot well this is the one in the hammer so there isn't any polymer to loosen. It's the hammer pin to remove that third spring that galloway has you install. But who knows maybe some heat would still help lol I know the video tutorial from Galloway talks about how this pin only goes out one way and it is a TIGHT hole for the 1/16th pin to go through. Almost feels like it isn't really a full opening tbh
@@xTom4Tomx man, I don't remember the specifics of the spring install, to be honest. But I do remember that galloway video being helpful. That said, working on anything can get frustrating at times. You'll get it. 👍
Damn, bro, what're you doing with yours? I have two other friends that have these too, and we all have close to 10k rounds through ours individually. Mine still looks and functions basically like new.
my friend has one and it has eaten everything we fed it from day 1. Even 60gr sniper subsonic and other weird loads. I think you may have gotten a dud. Rugers QC has gone downhill
Awesome stuff, I added the spring kit per your recommendation, and also did their trigger too, absolutely love the thing, it’s a fun little guy to shoot, I bought two extra mags and added the Wingman TK +4 extensions, and have had good luck with em, they feel great in hand too…The main difference I experienced with the spring kit is no light primer strikes anymore, or at least hardly ever….I load it with 11 of those Aquila 40 grain round points, and polish the wax off the bullet, and have found myself carrying the little guy a bunch with one of those kydex BORA11 trigger guard holsters, it weighs nothing, and I trust the setup…
Sounds like a solid setup 👌
@@johnnyshootsalot So far it’s worked every time I’ve practiced with it…
What spring kit did you get?
@@username19237 Galloway
It’s kinda funny seeing someone else that loves that gun as much as I love mine😁 and I also take it with me to the range every time I go. As the matter of fact I’m usually handing it off to others around me to shoot it too just because I get such a kick out of shooting it i figure they will too! I also turn people on to a video I stumbled across, and I encourage everyone who loves 22 to watch it. The channel is called Beyond Seclusion and the video is called .22 lr FOR SELF DEFENSE?? Pretty impressive video, and it’s an lcp2 with CCI segmented rounds
Thanks for the update, Johnny. Much appreciated. My experience with ammo mirrors yours.
I shot about 500 rounds out of mine last week….Round nose ammo feeds the best through mine including Federal Automatch…..I also shot some CCI stingers with no feed failures…..I did have a few failures to fire with both types of ammo though…….I installed a Armalaser laser on the trigger ring which allows accuracy at any angle but I had to buy a new pocket holster……
Good to hear! Keep shooting it and let us know. Thank you.
Sorry you didnt have the results out of the spring kit i did. I had high hopes. Thanks for taking time to put this out here. I shoot mine a good bit but not quite as much as you. All in all I’ve been extremely happy with this pistol. But out of the box it was a bit of a disappointment for me. I just chocked mine’s failures to ruger trying to do too much in too small of a space. After reading up on other people that have them results seem to vary wildly. I guess they aren’t really consistent with this model. Thank you again.
My LCP .22 is much more reliable since I removed the magazine disconnect. It was running about 90% but since the mod I've put several different boxes through it with zero problems. I did this mod to fix the crunchy trigger & it is much smoother now. It has one crisp break instead of 2-4 mushy breaks. Shooting smaller groups now.
Don't have as many rounds through mine (maybe 1500) but finding similar results. The Eley Club, as you have found, and SK standard work well (which may be due to their tallow/beeswax coating). The more I shoot mine the more I find that previously "bad" ammo now seems to work. Most of the CCI ammo works, and am glad to see that their Target works, since I can get 50 for $4.83 at Walmart (yes, after many months and not much in the way of answers from WM personnel, they have this on the shelf consistently now).
It’s crazy how people say the lcp2 is ammo picky. I’m lucky because mine has ran everything so far. Albeit a couple failures here and there but really it ruins everything.
It could possibly be "crazy" if it was one guy professing something that everyone else objectively didn't experience. However, in this case, the rarity is the claim that the lcp is not ammo sensitive. I personally know more than one other RUclips "gun guy" that has had the standard issues with the lcp that hundreds of others have reported. If yours is different, post us a video showing you successfully firing hundreds of rounds of different brands of ammunition that the rest of us have struggled with. Simple...
That Gun is Ruger,s take on the kel-tec p32. Ruger SHOULD have offered this Gun ln .32acp.
I like the 32acp round, and the lcp would be more capable and better handling had it been offered in that caliber. That said, I'm sure Ruger chose 380 and 22lr because they are far more readily available, and 380 is generally better accepted as a self-defense round than the 32. Realistically, I don't think there's a big difference when it comes to real-world effectiveness. I have been toying with the idea of hand-loading sone lighter 380 rounds for use in my LCP Max that would compare in performance and recoil to a semi hot 32acp.
Really like my little Ruger.. I appreciate you answering the durability question for us ..good job..👍👍
My 10,000 round review is coming up soon! Stay tuned.
Great video sir! I love my lcp ii and have had no problems at all with 5k rounds through mine other than 10 or 15 duds on cheap ammo not firing..Ive had no failure to feeds so far...👍
Thanks for watching! I also have some other LCP vids. Including my 10,000 round wrap up.
Not an owner of this gun but really like it based on all the reviews I read and from what my understanding of the Galloway spring replacement kit. From reading some of the vids regarding these kits it appears to be the case of when from ...new ..some of these guns give issues, the Galloway kits replacement alleviates the problem. If yours worked flawlessly from the start I guess that kit would not really make much difference. That's just from reading multiple reviews on the Ruger LCp II 22LR...and I mean multiple😃
Yep. That's the consensus. But there's a relatively broad spread of functionality with these particular guns, and considering Ruger's ability to make a good firearm very consistently, it's hard to say what it is that's the determinant variable.
I've had the same issues with Federal Punch and CCI Stingers, with my LCP 2 22LR. CCI Mini Mags so far work the best. Will try the Aguila next time to the range. I had been considering that spring kit, will hold off till I test Aguila, thanks for the excellent video.
Thanks for watching!
This has been one of the most reliable 22lr semi autos own. It has tun everything i have put in it. Now i wish they would make a 4 inch threaded upper. That would make a great 4inch subcompact amd with the tandemkross 4 plus one mag extender.
I did have to get the extra power recoil spring to get federal punch to work reliably.
I don't know what the actual barrel length is, but Ruger makes a threaded version for this gun that seems to be pretty legit for $160. I was contemplating getting it, but ended up just getting the supressor ready m&p compact because it would kind of defeat the advantages of the lcp's small size to add barrel length and a suppressor.
@@johnnyshootsalot yeah i like the super thin profile of the lcpii. The existing threard barrel option can be found for about 100.00 if you hunt for it. It still a 2 3/4 imch barrel threaded. I don't want to go much bigger in width or height than the kel tec p17
The lcpii profile would lend itself to a great 22lr semi auto. Oh well i man can dream
Mine also will not reliably cycle the federal punch
I had been attributing it to the nickel plating on the cases, but I didn't know that the cases were actually longer
I get on average 3 to 5 failures to extract per 50-round box
It's been happily munching down CCI Mini Mags however
I have yet to acquire any velocitor, which seems to be the recommended defense round for this pistol
got the spring kit myself. Plus i gently re shaped the feed lips from the mags. Just rolled the lips on some ar500. Seems to keep em from making the round just stand up and not go in the pipe. After about 2000 rounds mine is darn good.
Awesome!
I carry mine with Federal punch haven't had a single malfunction
Mine didn't like them or the stingers until I installed the Galloway spring kit. But I have buddies who were able to run them fine.
Appreciate your videos on this gun. I have had very good results with Aguila ammo until I got a 500 round box and found it to be a sticky mess. It was like someone spilled a coke in it then let it dry. It gummed up my 6 mags also. Had to clean each round with mineral spirits. I looked on the internet to see if anyone else had this problem and low and behold yes someone else had the same exact problem. I reported this to Aguila and they wanted a copy of my receipt which I had threw away so no luck there. I think keeping your mags really clean is a good thing to do to keep malfunctions low. I still use Aguila because it runs better than the mini mags with my experience.
I have encountered a box of over waxed Aguila as well. I think it was a 250ct. Like a syrupy mess of oily wax. I basically just sprayed all the rounds down with some brake cleaner in a bowl, wiped them off a little with paper towels, and shot them all in the next day or two afterwards. I didn't have any particularly bad side effects from it. But overall, after running thousands of Aguila 22lr rounds over the past cpl of years, they are still the most consistent across the board in all of my different 22's. With the Mini-Mags being my 2nd choice.
Love the music in your intro and outtro, love the Blues! Great video!
Thank you! That's a tune off of my 3rd record.
@@johnnyshootsalot nice Guns and Blues!
Weirdly I've had Federal Punch run flawlessly through 150 rounds. Stingers I had a few failures before I installed the Galloway kit. Now they ran through 100 rounds with no issues. Velocitors I haven't retried yet. Before the Galloway kit Aguila's Super Extra just straight up refused to run in my gun. Same with Federal Automatch ammo. Those bulk box ammo's just refused. After the kit it minimized those problems. Aguila's problems were all ammo related after the kit just 2 duds out of 500 rounds. Automatch was better but that wax cover is odd and the gun just doesn't like it with the occassional failure to feed. Happened with all 3 of my magazines so I know it isn't a bunk mag. The most reliable for my gun so far is just Standard Velocity CCI's. I've ran 800 rounds of it and I have not had a single failure before or after the kit install. I'm surprised I haven't even had a single dud round. I'm not almost 2200 rounds in. I love the gun. It's fun to shoot and to use as a practice gun for my LCP Max. No I don't get live recoil training for the .380 but it's still fun and is what it is.
I've cleaned my gun after every range session except one time. The gun gets gunked up pretty bad and I just don't like leaving my guns like that after shooting them. But I honestly haven't had a failure due to the gun being dirty. It's just speculation at that point. It runs just as good dirty as it does after I clean it. That's just me personally what I've experienced after putting 300 rounds through it one session and 500 the next without cleaning. Though the lead tip CCI Standard's seem to foul up A LOT faster. After 200 consecutive rounds of it I definitely noticed it a lot more dirty than 500 rounds of Aguila.
Good on ya Johnny for marking mags that helps for sure!
My Ruger LCP II jam machine required all new springs including reshaping the slide lock spring, new trigger and custom firing pin. VERY upset that I had to REBUILD a brand new gun. I might as well of bought a Taurus!
Mmm, I don't know about much, but I know that Ruger's customer service is outstanding. Your comment gives me the feeling that you may be either exaggerating a fair bit or aren't telling the whole story. The lcps aren't perfect, but I've never encountered anyone, in person, who has had any of those type of issues without warranty covering it completely. And why wouldn't you just send it back to Ruger? They always take care of their customers and they pay shipping.
Thanks for the update...good info. I had a similar experience with some Remington Vipers I got a while back. The LCP II did not like them at all. A bunch of misfeeds and several outright duds. 100% with Aguila and mini-mags so far.
I've had opposite issues. Before I installed the Galloway kit, Aguila Super Extra would have a light strike multiple times each magazine. Mini-Mags would have failure to feed quite often. Haven't tried Vipers. After the kit install I only had Aguila fail twice out of a box of 500. Both of those failures were ammo problems they just straight up were duds. It's funny how we're all getting different outcomes.
@@tylerangle2269 do many different outcomes.....that's exactly what I dislike about this pistol.
@@Ali-7676 Yeah but it is a fun gun to take out in the woods when you wanna just target practice. It weighs practically nothing. Plus it is as reliable as .22lr can get at least with mine. I have around 8k-9k rounds through it since I got it. For the past 4k rounds I have thrown nothing but Aguila Super Extra and CCI Standards. I haven't had any malfunctions that weren't ammo related. It's like any gun that is picky with ammo.
@@tylerangle2269 I bought it for ankle carry but I think I'll go with a tiny .25acp or .32acp. I've put about 350 rounds through mine, CCI Stinger, Blazer, Mini mags, Aguila, Remington Thunderbolt. Everything gave me at least one issue per magazine with all 3 magazines. Thunderbolt was the worst. I've been told I need about 500 rounds to break it in. I've also been told to send it back to Ruger as I might just have a lemon on my hands. It is a fun little gun, I wish it was more reliable.
@@Ali-7676 I'd definitely choose your mentioned calibers before this little gun. I definitely trust mine from my testing. However there are many better options out there to carry. My LCP MAX is .380 is a pretty good choice for ankle carry. 10+1 or 12+1 is convincing for me. However these guns carry well in the pocket if you don't wear extremely tight pants. Mine just looks like a wallet in my front pocket. Whatever works for you!
damn, 7 thousand rounds! sorry to hear about the Federal Punch. i love it, and so far 250 rounds not a problem. i like the Remington Thunderbolt, can't find it in stores, haven't checked with co. yet, but that is impressive 7K total through mine only 1500 or somewhere around there. i just range fire every couple of months, but carry everyday, everywhere.
Yea, I've shot it a LOT! Getting ready to do the 10,000 round final review in the next few weeks. I had good luck with the Remington T-bolts too. Cheap and consistent. That Federal Punch works great in a lot of my .22s, but not the LCP. However, particularly since I play music for a living, the fact that it's loud af is a big drawback. If I lose my hearing, I'd just die of starvation slowly... I genuinely feel that the Mini Mags and both of the Aguila super extras are ALMOST as effective. I've taken quite a few raccoons with the Aguila hollow points, and they can deal a significant amount of damage.
@@johnnyshootsalot i agree, LOUD. and a lot of times the flame, or muzzle blast is evident also. but i also like the fact they remind me of the LONE RANGER, silver bullets.
@@davidbreen4727lol hi ho silver
I've shot probably 3000 rounds through mine...I did have problems with it when I first got it...it was a bad mag...Ruger made good on it...I've tried a lot of different ammo...mine likes the Federal Auto Match...Aguila...mini mags I just recently started having problems with them
I didn't have much luck with the Automatch...
Thanks for the report -- and the sweet outro music.
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@@johnnyshootsalot Thanks for the info. I host a public radio blues show, so it caught my ear.
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I bought this gun for my wife to learn on to help prevent her from developing a flinch and I have never seen a less reliable gun in my life. You can’t even rack it with one in the pipe and one in the mag without causing a malfunction. The aguila seems to run ok, but this is nothing more than a range toy and there are much better and reliable .22 pistols out there if you want a cheap plinker. Do not buy this as a self defense pistol if you value your life or a loved ones life.
Once a magazine's feed lips get bent it's extremely difficult to get them unbent.
I have sent my gun back to ruger and it came back kinda fixed it does not like stingers or punch it loves fed auto match and cci mini mags with the red coating so thats what i carry and this is my new cci gun and my sw 43c with the punch ammo im 22 lr fan i have just about every kind of carry guns but this is it for me now at 74 my hands cannot take the punishment any more and lets face it you are only punching holes and they need to be in the right place not a problem with 22lr
As you can see in this very video, the stingers and punch both have longer than normal cases which cause ejection problems with the lcp 2.
I have sent my LCP.22 back to Ruger twice, so I am on my third barrel. I am trying to find some bulk ammo that works. It seems to have settled down and after many brands and types of ammo I do pretty good with Aguila 40 grain lead round nose super extra and Remington golden bullet 36 grain 525 bulk pack. It hates fed auto match. A man should not have to work this hard to get a firearm to work correctly. I guess it is because it is so easy to carry. I have fallen in love with the wrong kind of gun.
@@blackberryflash6893 there are just tradeoffs with smaller and smaller firearms. Can't expect them to function the same as a full sized gun. And after thousands of rounds, and every different type of ammo I could get a hold of, the Aguila 40g super extras have been the most consistently performing. I'd say Mini Mags are top 5 too.
The main thing I notice on the Ruger lcp 2 2lr is the feed ramp. The ramp had a bump just before the chamber, it appears the tooling adjust as it reached the chamber.
That doesn't sound good...
My LCP II likes round nose bullets. Mine like Remington Golden Bullet .22LR 40 grain.
So far, 30 grain Aguila is what functions well with my LCP2
Mine didn't like federal punch, hated winchester white box or just about any flat nose ammo. I have found any 1200 fps and up round nose solid or HP seems to work fine in mine- Aguiila., Federal 36 grain, Armscor, Remington Gold bullet, even auto match has been ok... Mine has all factory parts except a mag disconnect delete, and mine runs pretty well. cleaning it every 100 rounds is bs- if thats the case, use better ammo. Only thing that runs that dirty is like thunderbolt.
Probaly by the time you put the galloway spring kit in your springs were probably funtioning about the same. I think had you done the kit eariler on you would have noticed s difference. My lcpii had bern shot ton smd i just put the galloway spring kit in. I did notice the trigger pull a bit lightet snd crisper. Waiting on their trigger. I think it will have a better feel. My lcpii 22lr has been running like a champ. Great stuff
I’ve read on the forums that the Mcarbo +10% power recoil spring will allow the PCL to fire Federal Punch without issue. Maybe give that a try?
I've had great luck with the stingers. But I had trouble with mine at first. The slide would lock back randomly and I completely ruled out my grip. I ground off much of the slide catch and that seems to have done it. Rounds were engaging the slide lock while cycling. I now have about 2k through it and I don't notice any pickiness other than a few failures to fire and stovepipes with cheap bulk ammo
I have considered buying one of those little Rugers but I have an old Jennings J22 that may or may not shoot depending on her mood ! Maybe I need a little.22 revolver.
The Ruger LCR is a quality piece.
Surprisingly, mine runs Norma ammo the best. It also likes mini mags and federal auto match. Armscor not so much.
sub'd today a left handed shooter. Saving up 4 one 4 longtime. As DAV $$ real tight sadly. on list @ several pawn shops 4 used one now. Was worried abt clicking the safety or mag release? TY 4ur fine intel. W/luck maybe git one b4 Christmas??
4got 2 ask any x/brand mags that work Ruger's are such Hi $$ TY 4 info
Thank you! The LCP is a solid choice. And a lot of fun to shoot, too. I don't know of any aftermarket magazines for the LCP 2. A 2 pack can be had online for $40-$50.
@@johnnyshootsalot Gotta used one finally so far so good. Got box of Rem. viper ammo saving 4 other types TY
I think that you've worn in your springs enough with all the rounds that the new lighter springs aren't much of an improvement over the worn in originals.
I too installed the spring kit and trigger, and I do like the feel of the trigger but my gun didn’t function any different which was pretty disappointing, mainly because I had bought a 500 round box of Fiocchi that was horrible and I hadn’t tried many other brands at that time. Regardless you just have to try different things and see what works best.
I truly truly appreciate your input it has made my life a little easier praise God and God Bless You Amen. EDW.
Mine loves the aquilar and hates Winchester
I have several small pocket type pistols but the problem is they are kind of collectable or the value has shot up and that makes me not want to carry them. This pistol seems to fill that area of small, light, easy to shoot and not collectable.
I agree, to some extent. If you price any of the vintage pocket pistols by the asking prices on Gunbroker, then it would appear as if they're worth their weight in gold. But I've found that in most places, their actual selling prices are basically in-line with the higher quality new guns like the Beretta Tomcat and the like. I think you're spot on with the lcp being a cheap shooter that you could beat up and not worry much about.
@@johnnyshootsalot But then I'll get it and decide it's too new to carry around😆
@alan Rogs fwiw, I've run over 10,000 rounds through mine and carried it a fair amount, and it still looks basically new...
Nice
Thanks for watching
Glad you did the update have you ever tried to CCI velosters
Yes. They ran ok in my lcp. Not great, but generally ok.
@@johnnyshootsalot thanks for the info mine runs fine and minimags and even some cheap bulk ammo but I bought that Aquila that you use and I hope to try it out soon thanks for your content was a spring kit pretty hard to put in before I bought the gun I plan to do it but I haven't had any real issues with mine my wife had some trouble the not holding it tight enough and was limp wristing it . I carry it when I don't want to carry and it works out just fine.
@@chrisklein4366 funny enough, the cheaper remington "bucket 'o bullets" stuff ran great in mine. Aguila has been the most consistently reliable, though.
I've shot about 1000 rounds through mine before without really cleaning it. I notice that after 250+ it starts blowing fireballs... and it gets less reliable as it gets dirty.
Agreed. I have put 250-300 or so through mine in a single session without too much of a change in performance. But it certainly runs better when it's clean and lubed properly.
I love your update videos on the LCP 2 -.22. Very well done! I have probably 1000 rounds through mine, like many of my Ruger‘s, the slide is a little loose when I hold it in my hand and rotate it back-and-forth, left and right. I have that on some other Ruger ‘s as well, I think it’s a Ruger thing. Do you have the same thing happening on yours? I think Ruger just likes to have a little bit of play in the slide to where it rattles just a little bit.
Thanks, man! My LCP 2 is a little loose. But the LCP Max is very loose. I spoke to Ruger specifically about that, and they said that it was engineered that way purposefully.
I have had great luck with my LCP .22 since I put the Galloway spring kit in my gun. I wish you the of luck with yours but if it were me I would get rid of that gun.
That doesn't make any sense....
Asking again, from a practical day and night shooting perspective, to hit targets, does the black lower and silver upper offer any advantage over all black? I am also open to paint some dots on the sights. What colors would you recommend?
I'm installing the springs right now and I'm struggling hard with getting the pin out of the hammer to put in the third spring. Really wanna get it installed to fix the reliability problems I'm having with it. But this pin won't budge. Any suggestions man?
I can't say that any of my pins were particularly stubborn, but I use a roll of duct tape covered in an old t-shirt to give me a stable, but hollow platform for driving out pins. And I would probably just tap tap tap it until I see some movement. If it is really not going anywhere, maybe sit the frame under a warm light to heat it up a little so that the polymer expands and softens JUST a bit.
Or maybe hit it with a hairdryer for a minute or two
@@johnnyshootsalot well this is the one in the hammer so there isn't any polymer to loosen. It's the hammer pin to remove that third spring that galloway has you install. But who knows maybe some heat would still help lol I know the video tutorial from Galloway talks about how this pin only goes out one way and it is a TIGHT hole for the 1/16th pin to go through. Almost feels like it isn't really a full opening tbh
@@xTom4Tomx man, I don't remember the specifics of the spring install, to be honest. But I do remember that galloway video being helpful. That said, working on anything can get frustrating at times. You'll get it. 👍
Vipers shoot thru 22 raffles
What Aguila ammunition are you using.?
I use their bulk 40g round nose and 38g hollow points. About the same reliability with both.
I had to send mine in by the time it got 3000 due to wear and tear. You didn’t? Do you work for Ruger?
Damn, bro, what're you doing with yours? I have two other friends that have these too, and we all have close to 10k rounds through ours individually. Mine still looks and functions basically like new.
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Would you recommend a LCR over the LCP for reliability?
Yes.
@@johnnyshootsalot thanks, love to see you do a 7,000 round review of the LCR!
Can anyone recommend a good iWB kydek holster for this .22lr?
I have one from Pole.Craft that is absolutely awesome. I think I got it from ebay, and I know it was pretty reasonably priced.
@@johnnyshootsalot ok great Thank you for the information. 👍
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Learn to upgrade it.
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my friend has one and it has eaten everything we fed it from day 1. Even 60gr sniper subsonic and other weird loads. I think you may have gotten a dud. Rugers QC has gone downhill