with any 22lr pistol no matter what ammo is used the results will be limited so I would stick with whatever is the most reliable for the pistol. Now its a different ball game with a rifle, hyper velocity bullets coming out of a rifle are smoking hot and do wayyyy more damage and are pretty reliable as well. Im a 22lr guy and for my pistol I shoot cci super segmented hyper velocity only, the bullet breaks into 3 pieces on impact. It might not penetrate deep but if you say shoot somebody in the stomach it will blow a big hole in their guts
I shot Interceptor for the first time from my LCP a few days ago. I was surprised at how little recoil it produced compared to Aguila’s Super Extra HV. I put a mix of the two ammos in the mag and I could not tell the difference without looking at the cartridges. One thing that you said that many others say accidentally as well is that you referred to the bullets as copper jacketed. They are actually copper plated, not jacketed. I have to say that I am really impressed with that Interceptor penetration! Thanks for the video on this!
@@GeographyCzar From a 16" both meet FBI penetration depth and expand nicely. A .22 semi rifle loaded with these suckers would just absolutely ruin anyone's day.
For hunting small game I'd take the velocitor just for the energy dump. But with two legged critters penetration first then worry about energy dump. I thought the interceptor was going to be a good round for defense if you had to with a 22. Seems like a far better choice than federals lightweight defense loading. A 40 grain pill isn't very big and going smaller than that just seems like a bad idea.
The winner was the velocitor...10 inches of penetration + expansion will be significantly more devistating...through and through is more frequently non lethal
... also I have had a couple of hang ups with both Velocitor and Punch, and had a Stinger fail to fire, but it fired on the next try. All of those were surprises when they happened. To me of all people! Starting to suspect a mag problem, maybe.
They're eley primed so they should be every bit as reliable as CCI if not better. Though always check with rimfire pistols as they can be fussy with some ammo and fine with others.
LCP2 my CCW pistol as a DAV works well w/my disabilities. As a DAV w/low $$ finally got some CCI varmint rounds. Do they function well don't wanna use them up doing field test. Most misc ole 22round I have fed good cept 4 CCI. TY 4 info
I know you can feel the difference when following up a mini-mag with either the Velocitor or Interceptor in a Beretta 21A. The barrel is a bit shorter though. Ruger also makes the LCR in 22LR with either 2" or 3" barrels. Eight shot cylinders. Obviously no where near as tiny as the LCP II 22LR though. But no feeding issues! I still haven't been able to convince myself that a 22LR is a viable carry round. It's certainly a good practice round for your LCPs. I'm fairly sure 22LR is still cheaper than 380 ACP.
wait did you use the hollow point interceptor? The inteceptor does come in hollow point, it makes more sense to compare the hollow point intercepor to the hollow point velocitor.
It is not surprising to see the full metal jacket go farther the hollow point should slow it down but cause more internal damage. You could see that better with 9mm a 22 lr is do small but the hollow point is designed to go slower when it makes contact and to create more damage
Short barrel pistols in 22LR (1''-2 3/4'') cannot achieve the high velocity of a rifle barrel. In an LCPII most (Not all) any 40 gr bullet will achieve 850-950 fps regardless of what velocity is listed on the box. Lighter weight bullets like the Stinger and Punch go a little faster but again can't come close to their box listed velocities. My LCPII 22 was very reliable and accurate but the trigger was so terrible and heavy I just recently sold it. A long gritty 8lb trigger made worse by such a short distance between the palm and trigger make the perceived trigger pull even heavier. I would constantly check to see if the safety was on. I had a Sigurd trigger installed in it and even with the improved geometry of the trigger shoe, the pull was still 8lbs, and though less take up, still very long. My LCPII 380 has a decent 3 3/4lb pull that is both shorted in pull length and has no grit to it. As a test I went to our local Fleet Farm and checked the pull on another LCPII 22 and it was just as bad as mine. I tried to like the LCPII 22 for a couple years but if you don't shoot it why keep it.
I actually ran the Federal Punch 22LR in my LCP II 22LR Lite Rack and clocked it with my chronograph. It actually exceeded the velocity listed on the box. I gained some respect for that ammo in the LCP II 22LR. It functions as it is supposed to in my personal LCP II. Too bad you could not enjoy yours, though. Good choice to sell it if you never shoot it.
@@radomguy9678 Yeah, I sure wish it had worked out. I loved the fact of having a 22LR LCPII version of my 380 LCPII. It was accurate and 100% reliable too. But that trigger was so bad that it just wasn't something I ever shot. Even on a defensive pistol, there simply isn't any reason for a trigger pull to be more than 4 or 5 lbs . 8lbs is just ridiculous. Might as well go to somebody that will use it and enjoy it.
I use nothing but Interceptor flat nose in my LCP2/22Lr I want as much penetration as I can get don't care much about accuracy. I feel if I ever need to use it for SD it will be up close so for me pen is my main priority. As far as the jamming problem put a spring kit in your LCP worked for me.
When standard velocity 22 is going for $6 and Norma cheap stuff is going for $10 a box of 50 that's not a bad price. Anything but bulk pack 22lr is getting expensive!
You do get a little extra performance...but we ourselves try hard not to get too caught up in numbers, a couple extra feet per second or an extra .002 in expansion don't make that big a difference...we own a couple boxes of Velocitors, used for carry in our NAA...
Carry the interceptor HPs in my little NAA w/ 1 5/8” barrel. I shot aguila Int., mini mags HP, and the stingers. The Anguilla is noticbley hotter in my little pocket 🚀. YMMV
Yea, I'd like to, but what ends up happening too often is that something goes wrong with either the gel or the chrono. It's trickier to make that work than it should be. The worst is setting up gel and chrono for BB calibration of the blocks... holy cow that's hard to make work right! lol
lcp 22lr is not a reliable gun IMHO ..and I own one , with or without Galloway sprngs it is not reliable enough to consider for EDC , Even as a back-up . worst pistol Ruger ehas ever put into production
The federal punch out performs both of these loads by quit a bit,the federal 22lr punch is the way to go for self defense in 22lr,I've never seen a 22lr perform like they do
@@ohheybigbabysweetsIt's because the case is slightly longer than a standard 22. My Kel-Tec P17 and Beretta 21A don't like it either. I think the nickel plating on the case has something to do with it too.
with any 22lr pistol no matter what ammo is used the results will be limited so I would stick with whatever is the most reliable for the pistol. Now its a different ball game with a rifle, hyper velocity bullets coming out of a rifle are smoking hot and do wayyyy more damage and are pretty reliable as well. Im a 22lr guy and for my pistol I shoot cci super segmented hyper velocity only, the bullet breaks into 3 pieces on impact. It might not penetrate deep but if you say shoot somebody in the stomach it will blow a big hole in their guts
Let alone their balls!
I also have a LCP2- I really enjoy these videos.
I shot Interceptor for the first time from my LCP a few days ago. I was surprised at how little recoil it produced compared to Aguila’s Super Extra HV. I put a mix of the two ammos in the mag and I could not tell the difference without looking at the cartridges.
One thing that you said that many others say accidentally as well is that you referred to the bullets as copper jacketed. They are actually copper plated, not jacketed.
I have to say that I am really impressed with that Interceptor penetration! Thanks for the video on this!
True! Copper "washed" or plated. Not jacketed. Thanks for the correction!
@@GeographyCzar u bet! Keep the great videos coming!
These are for my money the two best cartridges in 22LR for defense. Especially in a rifle. Just about interchangeable IMO.
No question, these are violent from a rifle length barrel. You would absolutely spoil a perp's day.
@@GeographyCzar From a 16" both meet FBI penetration depth and expand nicely. A .22 semi rifle loaded with these suckers would just absolutely ruin anyone's day.
@@GeographyCzar Thanks for another great gel test btw.
Would be good to see this test, to include the Interceptors hollow points. I’m curious if, like the velocitors, they would expand and penetrate less?
Love the info you share. Thanks!
It makes sense the solid Interceptors would penetrate better than the hollow point Velocitors. Interesting to see how much of a difference there is.
For hunting small game I'd take the velocitor just for the energy dump. But with two legged critters penetration first then worry about energy dump. I thought the interceptor was going to be a good round for defense if you had to with a 22. Seems like a far better choice than federals lightweight defense loading. A 40 grain pill isn't very big and going smaller than that just seems like a bad idea.
2 x .22 = .44
The federal punch penatrates way better than the velocitor
Get a new magazine spring?
The winner was the velocitor...10 inches of penetration + expansion will be significantly more devistating...through and through is more frequently non lethal
The CCI Velocitor all day 👍
It seems you used solid points on the Interceptors vs hollows for the Velocitors? I imagine not really fair. Can you get some hollows?
That is pretty impressive for a small barrel
Just judging from the wound damage, the CCI would be my preference for self defense.
I saw a test of the Interceptor HP (I think it was gun sam) and it seemed to do very well in the handgun. It expanded too much from a rifle.
Awesome! Now to find some Interceptors. How is their accuracy and reliability? I have been finding Mini Mag HPs to be the most accurate in my LCP2
... also I have had a couple of hang ups with both Velocitor and Punch, and had a Stinger fail to fire, but it fired on the next try. All of those were surprises when they happened. To me of all people! Starting to suspect a mag problem, maybe.
They're eley primed so they should be every bit as reliable as CCI if not better. Though always check with rimfire pistols as they can be fussy with some ammo and fine with others.
Not reliable in my testing to put in a defensive weapon where you need to count on it. Too many random issues come up. A shame really.
Tools& Targets tested all the 22lr ammo in that gun an the Federal punch beat everything hands down.
LCP2 my CCW pistol as a DAV works well w/my disabilities. As a DAV w/low $$ finally got some CCI varmint rounds. Do they function well don't wanna use them up doing field test. Most misc ole 22round I have fed good cept 4 CCI. TY 4 info
As a XGI pass on the aguilia ammo due to chance of overpenetration ! TRust CCI alot 2 git R done wellTY
I know you can feel the difference when following up a mini-mag with either the Velocitor or Interceptor in a Beretta 21A. The barrel is a bit shorter though. Ruger also makes the LCR in 22LR with either 2" or 3" barrels. Eight shot cylinders. Obviously no where near as tiny as the LCP II 22LR though. But no feeding issues!
I still haven't been able to convince myself that a 22LR is a viable carry round. It's certainly a good practice round for your LCPs. I'm fairly sure 22LR is still cheaper than 380 ACP.
It is many times cheaper, yes!
It’s like 1/3rd the cost!!
wait did you use the hollow point interceptor? The inteceptor does come in hollow point, it makes more sense to compare the hollow point intercepor to the hollow point velocitor.
No, these are the flat nose.
thank you
It is not surprising to see the full metal jacket go farther the hollow point should slow it down but cause more internal damage. You could see that better with 9mm a 22 lr is do small but the hollow point is designed to go slower when it makes contact and to create more damage
Short barrel pistols in 22LR (1''-2 3/4'') cannot achieve the high velocity of a rifle barrel. In an LCPII most (Not all) any 40 gr bullet will achieve 850-950 fps regardless of what velocity is listed on the box. Lighter weight bullets like the Stinger and Punch go a little faster but again can't come close to their box listed velocities. My LCPII 22 was very reliable and accurate but the trigger was so terrible and heavy I just recently sold it. A long gritty 8lb trigger made worse by such a short distance between the palm and trigger make the perceived trigger pull even heavier. I would constantly check to see if the safety was on. I had a Sigurd trigger installed in it and even with the improved geometry of the trigger shoe, the pull was still 8lbs, and though less take up, still very long. My LCPII 380 has a decent 3 3/4lb pull that is both shorted in pull length and has no grit to it. As a test I went to our local Fleet Farm and checked the pull on another LCPII 22 and it was just as bad as mine. I tried to like the LCPII 22 for a couple years but if you don't shoot it why keep it.
I actually ran the Federal Punch 22LR in my LCP II 22LR Lite Rack and clocked it with my chronograph. It actually exceeded the velocity listed on the box. I gained some respect for that ammo in the LCP II 22LR. It functions as it is supposed to in my personal LCP II.
Too bad you could not enjoy yours, though. Good choice to sell it if you never shoot it.
@@radomguy9678 Yeah, I sure wish it had worked out. I loved the fact of having a 22LR LCPII version of my 380 LCPII. It was accurate and 100% reliable too. But that trigger was so bad that it just wasn't something I ever shot. Even on a defensive pistol, there simply isn't any reason for a trigger pull to be more than 4 or 5 lbs . 8lbs is just ridiculous. Might as well go to somebody that will use it and enjoy it.
Wound channel on velocitor was larger... lacked penetration clearly due to expansion
It was massive for a .22 out of a 2.75" barrel - and 10.5" of penetration with expansion? That's 380 performance...
@@GeographyCzar love your 22 content w lcp2!!! Please consider getting am lcr22 snub or lcrx22 3"
They have expanding Interceptor loads as well. I have some and they work well from a rifle at least
I use nothing but Interceptor flat nose in my LCP2/22Lr I want as much penetration as I can get don't care much about accuracy. I feel if I ever need to use it for SD it will be up close so for me pen is my main priority. As far as the jamming problem put a spring kit in your LCP worked for me.
Nice test
I'm just beginning to watch, but I'll have to pick the Aguila as the probable winner - even though I have been impressed by the CCi Velocitor.
Hmmm, almost identical velocities. Velocitor won the average but lost for the fastest round.
The veloctiers are deforming some delivering more energy.
Yes, LRN will penetrate deeper than HP.
If your shooting against the wind add 50 fps!
Last time I checked Velocitor was going for about $8 a box, I threw up in my mouth a little.
More like $9.99 a box on CCI's website...
When standard velocity 22 is going for $6 and Norma cheap stuff is going for $10 a box of 50 that's not a bad price. Anything but bulk pack 22lr is getting expensive!
You do get a little extra performance...but we ourselves try hard not to get too caught up in numbers, a couple extra feet per second or an extra .002 in expansion don't make that big a difference...we own a couple boxes of Velocitors, used for carry in our NAA...
Carry the interceptor HPs in my little NAA w/ 1 5/8” barrel. I shot aguila Int., mini mags HP, and the stingers. The Anguilla is noticbley hotter in my little pocket 🚀. YMMV
The Aguila is just copper plated, it is not 🚫 a solid copper jacket
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You should still have the chrono set up before the target. Then you’ll see if the speed of each was close.
Yea, I'd like to, but what ends up happening too often is that something goes wrong with either the gel or the chrono. It's trickier to make that work than it should be. The worst is setting up gel and chrono for BB calibration of the blocks... holy cow that's hard to make work right! lol
@@GeographyCzar it’s great I was curious about the ammo and your using the same gun I have.
Get a 22 pistol with a full length barrel, like a Taurus p22 or Keltec p17
😂 no
lcp 22lr is not a reliable gun IMHO ..and I own one , with or without Galloway sprngs it is not reliable enough to consider for EDC , Even as a back-up . worst pistol Ruger ehas ever put into production
The federal punch out performs both of these loads by quit a bit,the federal 22lr punch is the way to go for self defense in 22lr,I've never seen a 22lr perform like they do
My lcp2 hates for some reason the punch ammo. Shoots Cci with ease and never a failure
@@ohheybigbabysweetsIt's because the case is slightly longer than a standard 22. My Kel-Tec P17 and Beretta 21A don't like it either. I think the nickel plating on the case has something to do with it too.
I have 2,000 rounds of 40 grain solid interceptors and all my boxes say 1,470FPS!