DIY- Crankshaft Position Sensor Code Diagnosis
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2016
- I'M BACK!!!!! (temporarily).
I get my chops back into the game with a challenging pair of CKPS codes on a 2000 Olds Intrigue with P0385 and P1372.
Basics of Cam and Crank Sensors (Understanding Hall Effect and Inductive Design Basics) video is here:
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matt your a true legend and helped me pass my lvl3 light vehicle repair qualification thank bro keep up your amazing videos
Congrats on the promotion!Nice to see you back.
Just found this channel..., am amazed by the way you explain. You know how it works, don't you...
Thanks for the vids..!
I'm very intrigued, pun intended. Also, congratulations on the promotion!! You're one smart dude. Love the scientific approach to everything. Thank you!
Happy that you at least didn't quit the channel. Congrats on the promotion.
Welcome back and congratulations on your promotion! I am sure it was well deserved!
+Monte Hyler It was... but I'm not sure what I did to deserve this much punishment lol.
Welcome back Matt!!!! Can't wait for more videos!
Glad you're back! congrats on the promotion!
+Andrew Parry Missed ya brah!!!
congrats on the position man! hope you had a kick ass celebration
+Dr. DietLemonT Hardly lol. Pretty much 80 to as much as 120 hour weeks since February. It's been hell honestly. Man it was great to take a breather and finally focus on something else. sure missed you guys!!
Matt, I like to see you again miss you and as always a fantastic video.
Greetings from Spain = P
+Pablo A Thanks Pablo. I missed you to my friend!!
Welcome back, glad to hear about the promotion! When are you going to do a tool review on that wrench and 13mm socket? Thank you for zooming in on that bolt....
When he said are you using a hex or 12-point and said I really didn't notice man that was the best laugh I had in 2 years.
Congratulations on the promotion. I think I can live with fewer videos - but not forever! :)
Thank you for the video and good luck with the new position.
Easiest way to check for short to ground without fancy tools is to unplug the PCM then run a wire from the relevant terminal through a 12v21w bulb to battery positive. If the bulb lights bright you have a short to ground.
Leave the ign off.
You can leave this hooked up while you are moving wires around to see if it flashes on and off.
Because the sensor normally runs from 12v this will not harm it.
If the light is on and goes off when you disconnect the sensor the fault is in the sensor.
Hope this helps.
I like your methodical approach rather than just replacing the part indicated by the code. :)
yep good to see you back and congratulations on your promotion
+Eddie Martinez Thanks brah!
Love your channel and the knowledge you share. To do a visual inspection only takes a few seconds, often times you can accomplish this faster than you can boot up a scanner or oscilloscope. In fact almost every service manual will tell you to start with a visual inspection. You may just find a wire rubbing against a crank pulley. I have fixed MANY vehicles with a visual inspection that took less than 10 seconds. Simpleton? No, I like to call it efficient. If my flashlight and eyes don't see anything during a 10 second visual inspection, that's when diagnosis begins.
Anyhow keep up the good work and spreading the knowledge. Congrats on the promotion.
+Auto Fix Pal It is more a matter of logic and reason than practicality. Doing a visual inspection that requires removing splash shields, lifting car, And really having no idea what you're targeting seems ridiculous to me. At least now I know what to look for exactly.
Also you have no baseline. On ANY car you will find SOMETHING. But there is no scientific baseline to determine what you found was the cause and had effect as an independent variable.
Any way you look at it, starting a visual without foundation is always unscientific by definition. This channel is about scientific approach and procedure.
+Schrodingers Box AFP is right. We had a car that wouldn't start and it come up with crank sensor fault. After visual inspection we found out that crank sensor securing bolt was loose. 5min diagnosis.
+Schrodingers Box not suggesting that you start removing covers or parts. But i quick look under the hood with a flash light can often lead you in the correct direction. You stated Not all vehicles will show cranking RPM on the tachometer, YES this is true. But yet it was worth the time to check because it took no effort and can lead you in the correct direction.
You can't always trust scan data either, it's slow and its processed. The best way to really see what's going on is with an oscilloscope scope. Scan data is especially slow when your monitoring more than one PID at a time.
+Auto Fix Pal You're missing the point though- when you find an anamoly on a visual without defining baselines, how do you know it was the independent variable? That's my point. It's unscientific, you do agree, right? This channel shows scientific approach only.
+Gregory May Yea I understand but what I am saying is it is UNSCIENTIFIC. I am not debating Practicality. It is simply that it is an unscientific approach by definition is all.
Congratulations on the promotion. You have that Snap-On scope and it has wire location for testing the 24 CKPS and the 7 CKPS.
congratrs on your promotion, it was obviously due to your skill with the rachet counter clock movement,. very impressive.
:P you just made a lot of people very happy, including me!!!! welcome back bro!!!
Glad to see you back :-)) ....and great work like ever.
Welcome back….great per promo !
Welcome back Matt and thumbs up on the promo! You might get a guided tour of Rosedale College if you're lucky....Cheers
+tecnaman Scanner Danner in Pittsburgh? Cool. I wasn't putting that together myself, thanks. :)
congrats on the promo! glad your back too
congratulations, I guess. Good to see you back.
omg ... finally u came beck ,,,, thnx my best teacher ever
glad to see you go
You had me at what kind of ratchet is that!! Glad your back!!
+bigdaddymak1439 Okay, I KNOW I'm playing into your humor in all the wrong way, but I thnik it's a dewalt, lol.
Welcome back and congratulations.
+John Fountaine Thanks man. good to be back!
welcome back again,good video
Im new to your channel and I absolutely find your humour hilarious
You're back!
Dude!! I was gonna drop you a PM tonight to see how things were going! Glad to see you're still with us! Congrats on the promotion; that sounds like it's gonna keep you super-busy! If you're wondering what to do with the gobs of money you're making now, I'm open for donations! ;D
Man, talk about coming back with a bang! I'm not sure I'd be ready to call a PCM just yet, but it's certainly heading in that direction! Enjoy your next three weeks of travel in the mean time! :)
+rhkips Yeah you know me Kips- I won't call the PCM unless I can confirm there is no possibility a short to ground on the power is causing this. We have seen before where PCM shuts off a sensor circuit in such an event until the DTC is cleared.
+Schrodingers Box Yes, my cooling fan did not come on and the fuse in the fuse box had no power. It turned out to be the cooling fan relay and connector was burned. New relay and connector wire by the radiator solved that problem.
freakin love the humor in this video!
Wow... I thought the mechanic's gig was your job... You do more work in your "spare" time than I have ever done in my life. Good for you.
yeah this is just my hobby. Always get a hobby you love that also generates income, I say!!
Well, I would've said maybe get a girlfriend but I really can't pinpoint what gender you are. You can't assume anything these days...
As far as "generating income" that wouldn't be a great idea with respect to a girlfriend.
@@TheWicklunds25lol
Congratulations on your promotion.
Indeed.
Congrats on your new promotion. The priorities in your life are about to change and car repair might have to take a backseat.At the same time it's all good news and a man has to do , what a man has to do.
woot glad to see you bro
+Chad Cohoon Woot woot brah!!
I'm glad for you Matt,justremember the words of a great philosopher: "with great power comes great responsibility". - Uncle Ben.
+Moving Up Diy True dat, homie. That is why I use my talents for good, never for evil.
+Schrodingers Box don't leave us, I just subscribed.
I'll add my "Congratulations on your promotion" to all the others. I can tell you are a no joking around, hard charging the job type guy. I can see why you got the advancement and not another person (the ones that are still wondering why). Would like to talk with you about this new job and the work you are doing there. I have been studying cancer for many years just like you have been with cars. Hope someday we can get together talk about it. My best to you and good luck, JC
+John Carter Thanks man. I'll be happy to PM but you're right- not health to discuss it here as any other candidates who watch my channel might not exactly be too thrilled.
glad 2 know u work for a $20 bil. co. now I really am impressed!
welcome back.
missed you
+steveoktay First lol!! Missed you too brah!!! Hope you enjoy this one.
thanks! i recently put in a NEW (but bad) CKP sensor and its apparently shorted internally- screwing up my fuel level gauge, ignition coil/ignitor(?) and setting off a host of other selonoids- et al! I cleaned all grounds, rebuilt my fuse box, new ECU, cleaned everything........no changes UNTIL i just now decided to swap back in the old CKP sensor. All the electrical clicking, etc went away immediately and Im not going thru the KEY RELEARN process for the new ECU
You are awesome! 👏
To rule out a quick short to ground from the power feed without unplugging the CKP 'B', cut that wire and see if you have 12v from the PCM. You could also run a 12v source to that circuit from another as a temporary fix if the cost of the PCM is not within the customers budget.
Love your video's and keep them coming.
+dreamer2355 Cut the wire?? Why not just unplug the connector at PCM and do continuity test?
+Schrodingers Box that will depend on the PCM and the location. How will a PCM feed a circuit if its main power and grounds for the PCM are removed?
dreamer2355 EXACTLY. Therefore continuity with the frame confirms short to ground.
+Schrodingers Box i need to learn how to read. I never read your comment fully mentioning a continuity test. But yes, you can also run that test. Sorry about that.
+dreamer2355 No problem- your way would do same but I don't like to cut wires and introduce new variables in the repair.
yessss i missed ya ya goof!!!...lol..congratts.
welcome back ...i did miss you :)
+deepsquat600 Me too man. That sucked not making videos but there was just no possible way. Still challenged with availability but working on it.
Congrats
+Beau Michna Thanks brah!
Matt who are you visiting in Pittsburgh? Grats on the promotion.
Hey Shrodinger,
What do you like best - hall, variable reluctance, or optical? What do you see in the real world, in terms of reliability?
I am truly inspire by you!! You taught me a lot in only 1 month!! Just fully rebuild my engine thanks to you!!
Glad to hear it. Maybe you'll be doing repairs for others before long!
The old super common GM CKP sensor lol. Excellent diagnosis and explanation. I have not done this through the PCM before.
MATT, hello hello I was worried what happen to you now I know thanks for the video and congratulation on ur promotion
I just had a similar problem with a crank sensor on an Astro Van. It had intermittent power at the sensor. It turned out to be a bad ignition switch.
quick test cut the wire and see if the 12 volts returns cheers sandy or alternatively disconnect multiplug at pcm and do continuity check
thank you!
Welcome back; I thought you had abandoned your free channel in favor for your pay channel.
And if so that’d be okay everyone has to act in their own interest
Please pardon off topic question. If possible which budget scan tool would you recommend? Thank you.
Welcome back Schro!!! Wtg buddy.. congrats! BTW nice :)
+gbowne1 Thanks man its good to get my fingernails dirty again lol
Pleasure bro!! yeah I know what you mean I feel ya. I just had a similar situation with a pre-1995/1996 Regal. And because I run and own a machine shop well.. you know.
congrat's on your promotion. That is a good way to fund more expen$ive tools.
+Ozzstar .... that I won't have time to use lol.
Schrodingers Box thats the truth haha
Congratulations on your promotion
We missed you..Was wondering what was happening with you. Come to find out you got promoted. Congrats!!!!
+Freddy Soto Thanks man. It's sucked not doing cars though!!
congratulations in your promotion well deserved, how do I know if the ckp is a ground signal or power signal? thank you, keep up the good work Mateo, cheers from ontario ca
Could it be that the resistor in the pcm that feeds power to the crank circuit has burned out and needs to be replaced?
nice to see you making videos again also they put the pcm in the air filter to air cool it go figure gm
Thumbs up for awesome ratchet action ;)
+Adrian Kingsley-Hughes Oh man I could watched that for hours!!! I hope it gets me an additional 300K viewers since everyone seems to love that!!!
Gonna meet Paul Danner in the burgh? Sweet. I lived in Pittsburgh all my life until 10 yrs ago. Of course, I did not discover ScannerDanner until I moved down to VA Beach. I even lived 5 min from Rosedale!
+Scott Amoroso Yes I remember you saying this a while back. I'm Looking forward to a Primanti Bros sandwich lol!!!
lol yes good video when are you gowing to have part 2
Hey nice to see ya buddy , was wondering where you went. 👍👍
+STEVE ROB Hi Steve!!! Sure missed ya man!! Guess what man- Corynne just bought a new Camaro lol.
Schrodingers Box Wow, fantastic and I could have saved her $5K LOL Buddy I did tell you about this . I wouldn't mention it to Corynne. LMAO
Checking amperage on the power feed would be a good way to check if it was a short to ground with resistance, pulling the 12v to ground. If no amperage, I would check continuity to ground with a test light hooked to 12v, and if not found, one "Fix" for this old gal would be to run an external 12v regulator or piggyback off the sensor A feed. Would be a bit of a hack fix, but on a 16 year old GM that's puking antifreeze and oil, not the worst thing.
+James Barcellano You got some great thinking. Too bad the issue is on the positive side.
I suppose one could use a resistant way to check with a DVOM to see if the power would be found if the PCM was unpinned and you went to a different ground.
Yes, I think that's a way to confirm if it's the PCM or a short. Wow. You got my thinking bro. and I think I thought of the next test to see where this is going. Awesome! :)
+James Barcellano I was thinking the same thing of ether checking for a ground w/ a test light or ohms meter. amp meter would have worked great too.
been watching a lot of your videos recently - nice job
whilst i respect your methods and knowledge i do wonder if really modern cars with "non standard" OBD communications systems would prevent you doing a lot of what you do....??
by modern you could consider the BMW F10 chassis .........
keep up the good work !!
"what kind of rachet you using" lmao !! too funny man.
Damn it I hate to wait three weeks for an answer !! Lol. Will be watching same bat time on the same bat channel!👍 so where is part 2 ?
You're visiting Pittsburgh? That can only mean one thing, you're doing a video with Scotty!
buen. diagnostic. amigo. cual. fue El. probremas esaxto
Anyway congrats on your promo.
I was dying to see the result of a test light between 12v and that pin with the missing power. I think/hope it lights brightly.
Congrats on your promotion! Would love to join the pay channel but would like to see other payment options other then wallet. Any possibilities? Thanks!
Going to see Scanner Danner?
I have a 12 honda insight hybrid i just replaced the engine and now i have no rpm signal, spark or injector pulse. Swaped out crank and cam sensor. Still no change. I checked grounds and connections the crank and cam run off the same wire. How do i test this with my dmm does it create its own voltage?
WHy did you change the cam AND crank sensors? What was your data indicated both were faulty? That is really unlikely. I would start there.
pcm? love your channel. Always learning.
hello sir,i am watching your videos and far since i have seen, you are very good in what are you doing,and thats a good thing.Now,i send you this message because i have a problem whit emissions in my car and its a little bit strange for me to understand,maybe you could advice me.So i have a vw passat 2001 1.6liter engine(alz code) and on the emissions test its fail because of the high carbon monoxyde(CO),but the hydrocarbons are below limit,both oxygen sensors are working properly,except the fact that the downstream sensor its not stable,ok this tell me that i have a bad cat but then why on idle all emissions are good and when the engine rev up to2400 rpm the CO became higher ?if it is a bad cat then even on idle this value of CO should be high?lambda coeficient its 1.01 the car acting normal,no bad mileage no strange noises from engine,all good except the emissions...
Would it be possible to run a test light from battery ground to the 12V pin on the pcm you suspect is bad? If there's light, than it's good would be my suspicion. (Assuming the circuit carries current...)
+Justin “JeepnJG” Gooding You could certainly do that.
Just wondering, as to Open Loop status, ehy did u almost know it was an electrical wiring problem?
Life long shade tree who just discovered your channel. Vids are greatly appreciated as the prices charged (parts & labor) @ many places is nothing short of criminal! Have an 05 Altima 2.5L that cranks but no start, tach doesn't move while cranking. How do I determine if it's crank or cam sensor? Can this be done with only multi meter & test light? Scientific/ True Diagnosis approach is awesome.👍 on promotion.
Normally I just do a CKPS or CPS bypass and the one that works validates the bad component. Simple as pie!!
What site will provide me with the 'exact' make and model of my automobile? 2015 Regal 2.4L FWD? Thank you or if you can respond with the exact engine HELP! I am trying to locate the crankshaft position sensor. Thanks, Willie.
I use Alldata DIY
could i ask where you are getting your wiring diagrams from ,this is one of the hardest thing in the uk is to find good wiring diagrams
I use BBB Industries
Can you jump power from crank A to B ??
Yes, that would be valid bypass if you suspected lack of feed to a sensor.
I been looking for 2wks can't find my location of my crankshaft sensors dealerships won't tell me where to look they suck but how do I figure this out?
Just think - they either have to be along the flywheel or along a synchronizer. Just look there
So there's no part 2?
I just subscribed to your premium channel this weekend but none of the videos will play, what format are they?! Any fix for this that you know of?
Todd
Annapolis, MD
It has to be an issue with your browser. As you can see the videos all have comments and play fine.
Try using Chrome, its what I use
Congratulations Matt on your promotion!! Nice plug to all trolls, Ha, Ha.
Good to see you again Jake!
Lol how did you survive for 3 months without being able to make fun of the 98% and the wrench-turners?
Matt, we missed you bro! Congrats on the promo! Looks like you forgot about your best friend the testlight to check powers and grounds to those CKP sensors...might have to subscribe to your premium channel for the in-depth analysis on this one :)
+motoYam82 HAhaha! If I only had 4 bucks...
+South Main Auto Repair Hahaha man I barely remembered how to use my DVOM after that break from the action. Good to see you guys and I hope your channels are doing great!
what about unplugging the PCM and do a continuity test between sensor B and engine ground?
+Qiong Jia Yes that's coming in next video for sure.
Yes, just did a crankshaft sensor in my Ford 5 Speed!
Crank, no start! Much information on web is misleading. Many sensors in my Ford, but the crank sensor was located in the bell housing in the clutch/ Transmission. Unscrewed mine and the old one was half melted. Replaced it and engine restarted!
before I took my sensor out I tested the wires by probing them to see if I got a signal.
+prosperandbehealthy And what did it show?
+Schrodingers Box It showed no signal.
+Schrodingers Box I used a multimeter set to AC Volts and probed the 2 wires. While cranking the engine I should have got .5 to 1 Volts, but nothing showed. I then unscrewed the nut, pryed the sensor out and it was half melted.
+Schrodingers Box After much frustration because I am not an expert on cars I learned that when a car cranks and does not start it has to be either; not getting fuel, or not getting spark. I was getting fuel, but not any spark. I then tested the coil pack wires. The center wire is power and the left wire handles 2 cylinders & the right handles 2 cylinders. I probed the the center power wire with a multimeter to see if the coil pack was getting power. Yes it had power! Then I tested if the left & right coil pack wires was getting a signal and I used a small led test bulb that I got from R. S. No signal and that led me to test the crankshaft sensor wires. No signal.
hi i have a 2001 olsmobile intrigue 3.5l , but the water light comes on an off sometimes, even if the engine is full of antifreeze ,can u helpme with that
check for low water level and then check for intermittent failure of the coolant level sensor.
Pittsburgh? You stopping by Paul's shop/tech school?
I hope you show this. My father's '98 has the same problem. I read that removing the starter was necessary. Interesting video.
+Shawn P Yeah there is no way to even probe the sensor without removing the starter. But remember this is a hall effect sensor. The sensor must be backprobed and then starter reinstalled to crank vehicle to test it.
AIn't nobody got time fo dat!
Good one for u or Anyone who knows there shit.. 2000 Ford focus see zetec engine
egr tube, into the cat.. how do I get it off, no space for tools to break the bolt free. I seen two bolts hold as one on a guy's car and he couldn't do anything but break it, I need it as I'm doing the cat not the egr.. help
Anyone ??
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