How to Store Non-Restricted Firearms in Canada
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2023
- One of the things you need to know when preparing for the #CFSC (Canadian Firearms Safety Course) and generally for being a law abiding #firearms owner, is how to safely and LEGALLY store your firearms.
In this video we'll discuss the 3 methods you can use to safely and legally store your #firearm in Canada.
#ammunition can be stored separately or locked up in the same container as the firearm, but the firearm must remain unloaded.
Options for storing a firearm:
- Remove the bolt (easiest in a bolt-action rifle, but is fine for other actions too, though likely more difficult).
- Use a secure locking device. A trigger lock or (more ideally) a cable lock through the action of the firearm.
- Store the firearm in a locked container that cannot be easily broken open or into (can be a bag, case, closet, room, safe or cabinet, for example.)
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Whenever I say "trigger guard" I probably mean "trigger lock" ;) I'm getting old lol.
😂
This answered concerns I had on storage. Thank you.
My pleasure. Glad it was helpful.
Very insightful video 😎 🔥
Cable locks, imo as well, are definitely the way to go ~
Thank you so much!! 🙏
Yes I love cable locks. They’re great.
my first gun was an sks and i got a cable lock to feed through the drop box.
this felt unsafe to me and replaced with a trigger lock my next trip into town.
they can be cut, i don't like that.
@@alaricbarber3680 I think it's also case by case.
Although, I prefer cable locks, something I noticed with my Bullpup FD-12 is that the whole bolt mechanism can still slide 99% if not 100% forward when the cable lock is routed through the action and out the magazine well - making it ineffective.
I've opted for a trigger lock on this specific SG as well.
Well done video. Good information.
Thank you brother much appreciated. :-)
Great video well said on this issue!!!
Thank you! 🙏
Awesome video super direct! I was just under the impression that you always had to store your ammo sperate and locked, so 2 safes essentially in the same room, one with ammo and one with firearms. good to know.
Thank you brother :) Yeah perfectly fine to store your ammo with your gun, in a locked container, just that the gun of course has to be unloaded. Makes things more convenient for sure ;))
Thank you for this very informative video.
My pleasure :) Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
Hey there, just wanted to say thank you for the content. I lived in Ontario for 30+ years but now live in the USA. Just got my firearms certificate and will soon buy my first. Love your advocacy in the motherland and please keep it up.
My pleasure! Thanks so much for being a subscriber, it really helps a lot! I'm happy to hear you enjoy the content. Congratulations on the new certificate! What's the first gun going to be? :) I'll keep plugging away here, thanks again kindly for your support. It never goes unnoticed.
@@canadianoperator I'm look at a Ruger 10/22 for my first.
@@DawdlingDuff That is a FANTASTIC option! If you're looking for better ergonomics and a more comfortable feel (though slightly heavier) I would highly recommend Archangel's precision stocks for the 10/22. They are great, and offer a lot more functionality than the stock "stocks" from Ruger. :)
@@canadianoperator Thank you! I will definitely check those out.
Just bought a 308.
I just sent the link to this video to some folks that completed the Canadian Firearms Safety Course this weekend. Your video is an excellent training tool on safe storage. Lots of information is presented efficiently.
Thank you so much! I’m grateful for this and so glad it can be helpful to more people. Thank you sincerely for doing this.
Good info. Thanks.
No worries.
If the police show up to your home without a warrant and want to see how you are storing your firearms you have every right to tell them No and to leave your property immediately. Unless you have made threats to someone and they are doing a follow up investigation. No warrant signed by judge, go pound sand officer. Best tell your family members as well to say the same if you are not home.
100% right brother.
Excellent Information
Thank you brother, glad you enjoyed it :)
Thank you for the info
My pleasure. Thank you for watching my videos :)
Well said
Thank you :)
Great video young fella. Responsibly is the key word on safety it's not just protecting your firearms but also protecting inquisitive grandchildren visiting too. 74+🍁 hunter Yorkshire expat
Thank you very much and indeed you’re 💯% right. Thanks for taking the time to watch my videos. I really do appreciate it very much.
Dude you're such a life saver! There's so little on RUclips when it comes to firearms in Canada. Quick question: can i keep shells in my shotgun while transporting it in a locked gun case in my car? The official government website site doesn't say anything about keeping the shells separated. Please enlighten me bro and save me from any possible legal troubles 🙏
Thanks for the kind words brother :)
So, officially, to transport a non restricted firearm, it must be unloaded. That’s actually the only requirement.
However, if you want to transport ammunition with your firearm, you can - however, the ammo must not be in the firearm. But it can be in the same locked container, and I do this all the time when going to the range :)
If you leave it in your car, you can (like if you’re stepping away from it), but it must be in a locked trunk, or if in the car but not the trunk, out of view, and the car must be locked.
Hope this helps :)
www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/storing-transporting-and-displaying-firearms
@@canadianoperator bro you cleared so many misconceptions. Can't thank you enough!
@@canadianoperator though the official site doesn't say anything about keeping the bullets out of the NR gun, so is it just an extra precaution you're suggesting on taking to avoid trouble, or is it actually the law?
Also I don't see anything regarding locked cases too, the only rule mentioned for transporting is the firearm being unloaded. Are they just not stating the obvious or is really the ONLY rule and the rear are just precautions?
And just wanna thank you bro, you're doing law abiding gun owners a HUGE favour 🙏
@@Drunkfistkid Not a problem :) No need for thanks, just binge watch my videos 😂🤪🙏
@@Drunkfistkid it’s complex. There’s a mix of legislation and regulation, that’s why it’s such a pain to understand it.
Mostly it’s to do with the firearms act, 1995. So whatever you need with respect to firearm “rules”- it’s there. But RCMP does have a decent explanation of it if you go on the Canadian firearm program website. Which I believe I might have linked you earlier :) btw feel free to join our discord, it’s a lot easier having a conversation there ;)
Another great video. It highlights the extent in which firearms owners have to store their guns.
Thank you Anthony! Glad to see you again ;) I hope you’ve been well. Come by the Discord sometime. (Link in the description) we’d love to have you!
@@canadianoperator Didn’t realize there is a Discord server. Will definitely join.
@@canadianoperator I'm having trouble using the link. I get a response that the link expired or is invalid.
@@TheTimeweaver So sorry brother, here's a new one: discord.gg/RptujAypX3 I didn't know that Discord arbitrarily limits the links to 7 days before they expire. This one should never expire. I will update all my videos.
@Chris I believe you left a comment but it may have either been deleted or removed... Nevertheless I wanted to answer the question you had in that comment, asking whether it's okay to have cartridges in a magazine, and then have that magazine locked in together with your firearm so long as it's not loaded.
And yes, technically that's okay, as long as the firearm isn't able to discharge anything, it's fine.
That means in a locked bag, case, closet or safe for example, you can store the firearm, and the ammunition, even if it's in a magazine, in the same compartment. The same way that it would be technically legal to store a loaded magazine in the butt stock of a Ruger PC carbine (because it cannot be discharged from there) or even shot shells in the side saddle of a shotgun.
The reason I am against this practice, despite the fact that it's not necessarily illegal, is that it puts ammunition directly in close proximity of the firearm.
If someone was able to get a hold of that firearm some how, the loaded magazine was in the same compartment, if that person knew how to load and cock the firearm, they could discharge it. That would mean a very bad day for whoever owned the firearm.
I always like to go above and beyond what the law says. I always store and lock my ammunition away separately from the firearms. And yes, when I am planning to go to the range, I do preload my magazines with cartridges, but I leave those magazines in the compartment where my ammunition is, AWAY from my firearms. The day of the range day I take those mags out and throw them in the case alongside my firearm and other ammo, then lock the case, and I'm on my way.
Hope that answers your question :)
Ooh, that's freaky; I just checked and can, indeed, confirm that my comment had disappeared o.o
Thanks for the clarification, friend!~
P.S. I do enjoy myself a good Runkle watch every now and then too; that one concerning house/room-mates definitely came-up as well!~
I think it may either have been "moderated"-out of the comments section OR that it was auto-removed because I included a link - that being the actual Canadian gov website (which is weird)
@@x_jaydn I got you :)
Yeah Ian is a solid dude :) Definitely made me think and talk to my wife about licensing.
She enjoyed coming out with me and doing some shooting here and there so I’m really trying to get her to get a license as well :)
@@x_jaydn actually I think that’s exactly what happened. In order to keep the comments clean I do remember setting up something that modded comments with links.
The weird thing is though it should have held it for approval instead of just outright removed it. Because i definitely would have approved it :)
If you’d post the link in a DM or any of our public channels on Discord I can definitely make a pinned comment out of it here :)
If I have a break down/folding shotgun. Is it considered inoperable it I store it in that fashion?
That depends on whether it is physically able to chamber a round (a shell in this case) and fire it. If it still can, then it wouldn't be considered inop.
So to be safe, you can do one of the following:
Store it in a safe, and then it doesn't matter because it's in a locked container.
Store it anywhere in your home (even under your pillow) but put a locking device like a trigger or cable lock through the trigged guard or action, respectively.
Store it the same way as before, but this time remove the bolt.
I'm not sure of the context behind the question, but I hope this helps.
Great video.... I got my licence last year and going to buy my first rifle. Will get the cable lock for the rifle and put on my personal lock for the case. I have never kept my keys close to me. They have always hung up for easy access by the kitchen. Maybe I am better off with the combination lock. Anyway thanks for the refresher. Glad you put this on.. I am going to pick up a Savage XP 30 06. From the reviews it appears to be a great gun for newbies...
Thanks very much for watching and sharing your thoughts :)
If one were using a hard case several clamp locks, storing a shotgun/ ammo/ cleaning kit, would the case’s latches be enough, or pad lock needed?
For non restricted that would be fine, yeah :)
I have a side saddle on mine and often put a few rounds there and the others in a box or ammo bag that sits inside the locked case with the shotgun.
The important thing is ensuring your shotgun is unloaded and the case is locked. If you achieve that you can absolutely toss your ammo in with
Your gun.
Of course you could go above and beyond and put your ammo in a separate locked ammo container if you feel like being a little more cautious, but you don’t have to.
Cool. Wanted to make sure using the hard case’s latch locks were enough for gun & ammo storage.
@@mdarks4117 yeah any lock will do. Locked is locked when it comes to the law :P Though that would of course change with restricted where you’d also need a trigger lock in addition to being in a locked container.
TIP - You dry-fired several times and that is hard on the firing pin, Now I do not like to leave the tension on the spring when the bolt is close so what I do is slide the bolt forward and while hanging on to the bolt handle, I pull the trigger and lower the handle slowly to the bolt closed position and that takes off the spring tension without dry-firing.
I'm aware. Thanks.
Just wanted to know, if you have a safe, and you have ammunition and firearms in the safe, and some of your firearms have magazines which aren’t attached to the firearm but on a shelf loaded is that legal? So for example if I have the S&W FPC and the back rack can hold two magazines and those two magazines are loaded but not connected to the chamber or action is that legally ok?
Ammo in magazines is perfectly fine in a safe, even if the firearms are in the safe too. But they cannot be loaded into the firearm from where they can be discharged, or be in a part of the gun where they can be loaded into the chamber.
It’s unfortunate that Canada has such a tyrannical government. I store my firearms all over. In safes…in nightstands drawer, in vehicles. Where I might need them I could easily get to them. (No children in the house). But an unloaded firearm is like a soft rock. Fortunately for us we can use firearms for personal protection and prevent things like home invasions.
@@x3dominator28Indeed our government needs to change. And while I’m absolutely for self defence as a use for firearms, I don’t think they should be stored loaded or outside of a safe.
Not sure about you, but for me I can get to my shotgun within seconds and load it in a few more. But I know that nobody can use that firearm against me because it’s properly stored.
There’s a lot of potential for negligent discharge or other things to go wrong.
Hi, my concern is, what are the factors to store in the cabinet. 1. does the locker is to be bolted to wall or ground?
2. Can i store in wooden cabinet if yes what are the things I should take care of?
For that I'd recommend contacting the Canadian Firearms Program directly. You can do so via their website or phone number (found on their website.)
If I can generalize, the regulation states that the cabinet "must not be easily broken open or into". Beyond that if you have specific questions like "does it have to be bolted to the floor" - I would say no, but then again, I didn't write the regulation and you should probably be asking those very specific questions of the authority that regulates firearms.
Sorry, what trigger lock do you use again for your Tavor X95?
I actually prefer cable locks these days and I use the usual ones available at most gun shops. Forgot the name now but they’re available for about $10-$15.
Cable lock. No real option with an X 95.
@@lib556 Not with the stock grip at least ;)
i live in a 14" cargo trailer with all my firearms, i pretty much live in a safe LOL
Now that's thinking outside the box! Or I guess... INSIDE the box? :P
@12:10 the key importance of key carry is to live with them as we do.
You just never wanna be caught with your pants down leaving your keys behind and having someone else being able to access your stuff. If you can always avoid that, that would be ideal.
my question is that for bolt actions,
can i just remove the bolt but store it with the gun in the same gun case?
You can do that, but it wouldn’t really make any sense as a pertains to the law, because anybody who had access to the gun would also have access to the bolt. This only works, in a legal capacity, if you store the bolt elsewhere in a locked container or store the firearm in a locked container, so that the two cannot be combined.
@@canadianoperator appreciate the answer.
i forgot to say the bolt removed and placed in the gun case with the gun, while the case is locked with a locking device.
if it's legal to do so
@@FBI-ht4wy no problem. The minimum for a non-restricted firearm is that if you have ammunition in the case, the case needs to be locked. If you don’t have ammunition in the case, then the case can be locked or instead, you can put a locking device on the firearm itself. Removing the bolt is extra and not necessary. I only remove the bolt in my bolt guns because I don’t want to put too much pressure on the top half of the case when closed.
How about a Semi Auto Shotgun ? Can I have the magazine tube loaded with a trigger lock on the gun and stored in a safe ?? The Gun needs to be unloaded at all times ??
It MUST be unloaded. Just because the tubular magazine on a shotgun is not detachable, it doesn’t make it any different than having a loaded detachable magazine in a rifle.
If it’s a non restricted shotgun, it’s fine without a trigger lock if it’s inside a safe, vault, cabinet or locker as long as that storage is not easily broken open or into.
You may be able to get away with a side saddle, because part of the definition of “loaded” is that a cartridge can be chambered. They cannot be chambered from a side saddle, but I’d still advise against storing ammunition and firearms in the same place (even though it’s technically legal).
I understand why you asked the question, and I empathize with you with respect to self defence. But this is the way our laws are.
Hopefully we get rid of this Trudeau guy and the Conservatives can make life easier on us gun owners !! He needs to go !! @@canadianoperator
@@MrLew1965 I couldn’t agree more with you. We are the most law abiding demographic in this country. And he treats us worse than criminals.
Remember brother, we have the power to make changes. We need to keep fighting for our rights in the interim, and when the election comes, we must make our voices heard. This is the only way we can make changes.
Thanks very much for watching :)
@@MrLew1965 conservatives had the same safe storage laws
Can the magazine be loaded in the same locked case but not in the gun?
Yep. I do this often when getting ready for a range day. As long as the firearm is unloaded, ammunition can be stored in the same locked container/cabinet and there is no specificity about it having to be outside of a magazine. This is the same for both storage and transport. Though for storage usually I store them separately.
@@canadianoperator Thank you. Someone told me the amo must not be "easily accessable " which means it can't be in rhe same case and magazine not loaded...
@@dsmtsi easily accessible meaning not locked up.
For example, on a shelf, in a closet, etc.
If it’s locked up separately, or locked in a room, cabinet or receptacle that cannot be easily broken open or into, or a room, vault or safe adapter or designed specifically for the safe storage of firearms, it can be in the same place as the firearm provided the firearm is not loaded.
I'm going thru the process of getting my PAL now, booking the course, etc.
I'm interested in the Tikka brand, thinking a 6.5 PRC or a 270 Winchester. I live alone in an apt & security building. My intention is that none of my neighbors will know I have a firearm (I'm always going back & forth with guitars), so no great risk of theft. The fewer people who know I have a rifle, the better. It's not something I'm embarrassed about, it's the addicts who live in my city, who looted my car & fenced my new radar detector, dashcam, etc. My own fault for leaving that stuff in the car, I know...
....That said...
Couple of things:
1. How tough is it to remove the barrel from the rifle? I assume brand & bolt action type are important, but my point is, when transporting my rifle, I want it to fit into a guitar case. (Soft cases, a tweed Strat case, etc). I have many neighbors who are senior citizens, they all know me to have guitars (no, I'm not loud!), and I'd like to keep my ownership as discrete as possible. Do rifles break down easily so they can be transported, then re-assembled at the destination, without putting undue wear on the rifle's components? (and bonus question, does this affect a dialed-in scope? removing/reinstalling it, etc).
2. I have a security camera that's motion detecting in my apartment, since I've got I'd say $15k worth of guitars. I'm buying an AirTag (or similar) to put in my best guitar. Have any of you gun owners used Air Tags or other tracking tech to hide inside your rifles somehow? Is there space for one? If someone took my rifle, I want to be alerted immediately. It's not just to protect myself, obviously, and unlike stolen cars, police & the border authority act very quickly to recover/track stolen firearms. Any of you use tech/tracking to protect your guns? I don't want a gun safe, I just want my gun 'safe'.
Thanks, all!
There are some rifles that break down easily. Like for example, the Ruger PCC. They are made for the barrel to come off easily, and sometimes even attach to the stock to fit comfortably in whatever transportation solution you’ve got.
That said, for a rifle that doesn’t have that option, I would never recommend removing the barrel every time you want to transport it.
For one it’s way too much work and you’ll have to carry additional tools with you to do so. Secondly, the only time I’d want to change a barrel is if I’m upgrading. Otherwise I don’t touch the barrel whatsoever. You don’t want to cause any unnecessary wear to your firearm. And lastly this will ABSOLUTELY affect your accuracy. Less so if your scope is mounted forward of the breaking point between barrel and receiver. However, it will definitely affect accuracy and you very well may have to dial in your optic again.
While it’s probably not going to cause issues putting a firearm in a guitar case for transport, you still need to ensure that you are following all federal laws when doing so.
As for AirTags, yes I use them all the time. I own two drone systems and about 20k worth of camera equipment that I keep in a case. That case and each of my other bags (including my drones) each have an air tag. It’s useful in case they are stolen. But for me also useful when I’ve forgotten where in the house they are :)
Hope that helps answer your questions.
@@canadianoperator Hey thanks a lot, appreciate your enduring that detailed list. I have options of course, I can carry a proper, locking gun case with a handle & most people wouldn't question that. I'm not talking about concealment per se, just taking it to my car & back inside type of thing. I'm still learning the laws - some of them are strange regarding where ammo can be stored if the gun is locked, where it can't go when the gun is operational & unlocked, what can go into a locked case, where it goes when you take it OUT of the case, etc.
I do have a couple of questions about transport, but don't worry about it if you're short on time. Every answer I get inspires another question, so don't encourage the boy, lol!
1. If I wanted to drive from Nova Scotia to Ontario for a hunting course or just to go shooting with friends, as I understand it, it's legal to have a properly stored firearm (non-restricted, PAL license only) in my car trunk, and since the PAL is federal, I can transport my rifle between provinces with no issues. What about motels/hotels? If there's a secure parking lot or my car's just outside my motel room, is it lawful to leave my firearm in the car, or do I have to keep the firearm in the room? What if I only took the rifle in, but left the bolt & ammo in the car?
2. Are these scenarios legal? Always PROVE'ing he rifle before transport, of course. I understand "out of site & can't be loaded or fired" is the idea?
a) Rifle bolt & ammo in a small, locked case made for storing ammo, inside a zipped backback, stored in my car out of sight or in the trunk. Rifle with bolt removed & breech-cable-locked, fully concealed in an unlocked case (like a guitar case, maybe padded nylon?), in the same trunk.
b) Same scenario as above but the rifle's bolt is intact. Still breech cable-locked in a similar case.
I'm not too cheap to get a proper hard-shell case, I'm just wondering how casual I can keep it. I'd rather people think it's a guitar, unless a LEO asks.
Appreciate the help, thank you!
@@NunchucksHabit to get the answers to your questions, in short, I would consult the RCMP firearm program website as it details in summary how to store and transport non restricted firearms.
If you need further clarification on specific laws, I’d highly recommend consulting a legal professional with experience in the firearms act.
I believe I did link to some of those resources in the video description.
Thanks :)
I’m turning 18 soon and I want to get my license how long does the process take?
That's GREAT to hear! It varies, but it can be as little as 4-6 months, or more. It also depends on what you count as "the process" whether that's everything, or just from the time you apply. You'll need to get your course done (CFSC) and pass with 80% or above in both practical and written, then wait a few weeks for your course materials to come proving you passed it. You then mail that and your completed app to RCMP (or you can now do it online) and there's a mandatory month long waiting period for your first license. Beyond that it depends how busy they are. And that can take anywhere from a couple months to several. I hope this helps :)
@@canadianoperator great thank you any advice for what would be a good first gun
@@daddysage4145 oooof that is a loaded question haha. Any gun is just as good as the other but it depends on a lot. Join our Discord and we’ll talk about it. Might be a very long answer here otherwise. :)
@@daddysage4145hey, I just got my PAL, and it didn't take more than 6 weeks. If it's your first time applying for your PAL, it's all done online now as opposed to the old paper way. Impossible to screw it up. It's easy. I applied for my PAL on 9/11 and received it in the mail around Halloween. Go get it!
As for first gun....I ended up buying 4 guns on my first trip to.the store lol but I would suggest a .22lr caliber to get you started/familiar with guns in general, then when you inevitably get the itch, buy one of each category. Pump shotgun, semi auto rifle, bolt action rifle, etc.
I applied for my PAL right after I turned 18 one year ago, it took 8 months for me to finally receive the license.
I’m in the middle of building a locked vault room in my locked garage that I’ll be able to hang some of my rifles on the wall, because the room will be “locked, secured and not easily broken into”. Nothing is impossible to get into given enough time and equipment, so it’s going to meet the safe storage requirements of our illustrious government…..😉👍🏻👍🏻
Very nice! Share some photos with us on Discord!
guns scare me.
naturally i decided to educate myself on the subject.
my rifles have trigger locks, pulled bolts and kept in a safe.
ammo is in another safe.
i don't go to such extremes because it's the law but what i feel needs to be done to be comfortable owning such scary things.
before you jump down my throat for calling guns "scary" i also don't like heights yet find roller-coaster fun.
there is no shame in having fear, just not being able to control it.
One needs not fear firearms, but respect them. What is worth fearing is those who have firearms, but neither the knowledge nor discipline to use them safely.
@@canadianoperator please hear me on this.
as i said "naturally i decided to educate myself" please don't disregard people fear in firearms. the "fear the bad man not the gun" is not working to save our rights,
just be accepting of the fact people have fear. fear can be irrational but it's no less real.
if you can do this more will do as i did and educate themselves.
i enjoy your channel and please keep up the good work.
@@alaricbarber3680 I think you’re taking what I’m saying a bit too literally. I’m not invalidating your fear.
But at the same time, I don’t believe there’s much merit in being afraid of an inanimate object.
The object can’t do any good or harm without being acted on.
This in fact is WHY firearms are stigmatized in our country. Because they are depicted as horrible killing machines in wars, movies and the news, and people assume things about them based on that information, without any lived experience.
Thanks for watching, and you do you. Don’t worry about how other people feel or what they tell you. :)
"Safe storage" is whatever the senior policeman on the scene happens to feel it is.
Not anymore. And most lawful gun owners in Canada know exactly what the legislation is. It’s part of our training.
Be that as it may, still doesn’t stop the police from laying a charge and letting the court straighten it out…
@@jamesready5No. it doesn’t work like that. Laying a charge involves so much more. They aren’t going to waste their time on Mickey Mouse bs like this unless it’s part of a much bigger and much more serious event that would constitute a search, arrest, or both.
I’ve worked in our criminal justice system for several years and I have never seen a stand-alone charge alleging someone didn’t store a firearm properly. It just doesn’t happen unless its something discovered as part of a much bigger issue.
Cops don’t have time for that here. You can order a pizza from the other side of the city that would get to you faster than a police officer. The only likely exception is a serious violent crime. Besides that, they can’t be bothered.
Understand your gun rights and you'll be fine !! Why the police would end up at your door would not be for a PAL Safe Storage Check !! @@jamesready5
Storing a percussion sidelock muzzle loader is similar in that you can remove the nipple from the lock. Also removing the flint in the case of a flintlock. In either case both firearms are rendered inoperable.
Great to know, thanks!
I don’t treat non restricted storage like I do with reatricted. I don’t add layers of safety that is adding unnecessery time to access my firearm.
And according to the law, you don’t have to. But many firearms owners do.
How do you lock a lever-action rifle with a tube magazine?
Trigger locks are useless, and cable locks aren't long enough.
Inside of a locked case. Or get an extra long cable lock.
@@canadianoperator it ok to use / lock it inside a soft padded case?
@@herphermits the regulation states it must be locked in a container that’s not easily broken into, so as long as you have a way of locking it that meets the regulation, you should be fine.
I’ve done this with my Tavor when I still used the soft case that came with it for transport and storage (before I had my safe).
The zippers had metal loops for a lock, and that’s what I used. Perfectly fine.
I find safe storage laws ridiculous and don't go above what's required by law.
I do find many of our laws kinda silly, and a bit redundant at times.
However, I personally like to try to go a little above and beyond. Not because I feel like I'm expected to, but to have just one extra layer of safety, and also to be a good example to those who visit my home and may have apprehensions about firearm safety.
Not to say I am trying to impress them, per se :P But, to show them the kind of things they won't see watching liberal media, and hopefully educate them a little regardless of their stance on firearms. :)
@@canadianoperator I get that, problem is that it becomes the norm and people like cops who should know better end up charging because they think it's law. I can't tell you how many times I've talked to even PAL instructors who think it's LAW. I show them Rod's videos on the subject and they're dumbfounded.
@@georgepsofimis1834 I feel you brother. I’ve had similar frustrations with people.
That’s why I think it’s important to try to educate folks as much as possible. The more people know the less likely they are to fuck up ;) And at the very least, even if it’s not your jam, it doesn’t hurt to understand more about a subject. Especially if it’s a point of contention and the government is trying to lie to you about it. :)
@@georgepsofimis1834sources? plz
I don’t give two shits about “going above and beyond,” either. My house, my property.
This is frustrating. Canadian laws are waaaaaaay too safe. Then you go 'above and beyond' and it blurs the laws that are already too strict. This is pure silliness.
It really is pretty crazy. I feel that the law makers don’t really understand how things currently are. And the only reason they want to make things more strict is to invoke a public perception that they’re doing something about “public safety”. Except, we are not the safety risk here.
@@canadianoperator well said brother! Great Channel btw. I'm subscribed. I'd love to see a 2024 collection video! 🇨🇦
@@landrecce thank you brother! That’s a great idea btw :)
Only restricted weapons need to be hepl in a safe, bullets nedd to be in a seperate safe,
First of all, they're firearms, not weapons. Secondly, read the RCMP website.
You can keep a restricted firearm in a container, case or cabinet as long as it has a secure locking device. If it's in a vault, safe or locked room adapted for the purpose of storing firearms, it doesn't need a secure locking device.
In both cases it's fine to store ammunition in the same locked environment as the firearm without having to lock it up separately, especially not in its own safe.
Why are you dry firing your weapon?.
First of all, it's not a weapon. It's a firearm. And to answer your question, everything I do is to educate, illustrate or show a point that I am making.
Are there /do they do checkups for storage at your home, ect? And if so how is that process?
was thinking of it for restricted but also have dog with ptsd frm past owners, break ins ect and don’t want to personally risk them being allowed to just walk in unannounced or going around if makes sense as alot of shooting peoples dogs in their own homes ect, only reason I haven’t tried to get one but not sure how even works to be 💯 don’t like the thought of the extra stress if it’s unannounced visits /no warrant searches ect, thanks!
No, they'd need a warrant for that. However I have heard stories of there being checks on people who own many guns (I mean, THOUSANDS of guns) where they'd come and just ask you for permission to have a look. Again, you could say no, and they could get a warrant. But the majority of people probably wouldn't have issue especially when they're not breaking the law.
There is also the matter of our red and yellow flag laws. In that case they would not need a warrant, and they could come and check at their discretion to alleviate any suspicion of wrong doing based on a complaint received.
I hope this helps, but for a much better explanation I'd recommend a criminal law lawyer :)
@@canadianoperator okay makes sense, will look more into/ thanks again! Blessings
@@Flakkawrld No worries! If you have any other questions feel free to ask!
Actually they do not need a warrant but they do need to make the visit at an agreeable time.
…. It’s all about ENTRAPMENT & CONFISCATION not public safety
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If yo have ever watched the lock picking lawyer rip through any trigger lock that you believe works. Then I have some Florida land to sell you.
lol honestly I don’t care if they can be picked. Most of them are made of cheap metals and plastics and have locks that even an amateur lock picker can probably defeat.
But that’s not the point.
The point is the law says they need to be on a gun when storing (and for restricted guns, transporting) them, and that’s what we do.
We don’t stop before buying a trigger lock and ask the shop owner “bro how lock proof is this?” 😂
And yeah. I’ve seen that dude. He destroys everything he touches and he can probably do it blindfolded. Pretty entertaining.
Those cable locks are such low quality I would not use it to lock up a steak at a vegan convention.
Why would you need to lock up a steak at a vegan convention? :P They wouldn’t want it… they’re vegan :o 🤔
Technically right, sounds like legally right to me….just saying…
"Technically" is the BEST kind of correct ;)
@@canadianoperator Finally, somebody said it.. :P
@@Strato50😂👍🏻
One thing you need to learn is to STOP waving your hands and arms all over the place;
Another thing you need to learn is to PREPARE for your sermon ;
For example: SHOW a trigger lock and how ot works, on and off.
Finally, Is it NECESSARY for you to be wearing sunglasses?
I’m always happy to take constructive criticism. But not from butthurt keyboard warriors throwing a tantrum like a child. Thanks though.
You watched this whole video and went to the comments to say that?
How about instead of displaying how childish you are, you skip the video or block @canadianoperator all together.
The man took his time to explain IN DETAILS safe ways to store unrestricted firearms and you throwing a tantrum about his hands and shades??? FFS get tf off the channel.
Thanks for the video Canadianoperator
So what if your house gets broken into while you and your family are home ? You gonna tell them to wait for 5 mins while you find your keys , unlock everything , then load up . No because you and your family are dead !
I understand the point you are trying to make.
However this video is not to try to convince Americans to keep their guns unloaded in a safe. Rather, it’s to educate Canadians (and others) about storage legislation that must be followed in Canada.
Everyone has a certain risk they’d be willing to take, and consequences to accept. This isn’t to say what each person’s level of risk and consequences should be, either. That ultimately is up to you.
But as an educator, I can’t go around saying that everyone should be sleeping with a loaded shotgun under their pillow - because that’s against the law.
It’s kind of how you learn to drive, and you are taught to stop at a stop sign. If you don’t fully stop, you won’t get your license. You also know that you SHOULD stop at stop signs, because that’s the law and that’s what you’ve been taught. Yet, many people, given the situation, may not always come to a full stop. That is something that happens regularly.
As a human, you asses risk, reward and consequence many times a day. It’s not my job to tell you what that should be, specifically for you. My job is to teach you about a standard. Adhering to that standard is up to you. :)
Canadian law doesnt allow you to use guns in self defense. The government expects you to roll over and let the criminal have his way with you like a good serf.
@@devinhallsworth5531 it’s not that it’s not allowed. It’s that it’s extremely against the favour of the person defending themselves with a firearm because they have to prove that it was appropriate and not excessive use of force.
This is almost impossible though, so if you choose to do so and you can’t justify or articulate your use of force, and it’s found to be excessive by a jury, it’s very likely you’re going to jail, or most likely, prison.
@@devinhallsworth5531 That needs to be fixed ASAP .
dude thinks he's dale gribble
Who’s that? 👀
Yeah just like you did just unlock the fucking thing and your old can do refresher course
That made absolutely no sense but thanks for commenting!