Laws Relating To Carrying Knives In Canada
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This video covers a few of the laws relating to carrying knives in Canada, and how people get into trouble with the law when doing so--other than when they use them violently.
0:00 Introduction and definition of a weapon in Canadian law
1:22 Understanding criminal code sections and penalties for carrying a knife
2:52 Concealing a weapon: Legal consequences and offenses
5:27 Case laws and the role of design and intent in knife carrying
10:01 Practical and legal considerations of carrying a knife in different contexts
13:04 The importance of silence when interacting with police and the principle of "innocent until proven guilty"
16:06 Risks, benefits, and design considerations of carrying a knife
17:37 Overview of prohibited knives and accessories
20:14 Legal and illegal knife concealment devices: Avoiding pitfalls
21:20 Closing remarks and Patreon supporter acknowledgements
All comments for information only. Do not take anything as legal advice--if you have a legal issue, contact a lawyer directly so that you can received advice tailored to your situation. All views expressed are solely those of the creator.
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the laws were made in such a fashion that they are so broad and generalized that the crown can easily manipulate every situation for a conviction.
@@animeiphone8510They may have influenced laws, but they definitely didn't create them.
I actually don't mind broad laws when they are used correctly. I think having 1 general law instead of 45,000 specific laws is much easier for the average citizen to understand. But as you said, only when that broadness isn't being manipulated against us.
@@shabadooshabadoo4918 THAT IS HOW WE GET RACIAL BIAS UNFORTUNATELY..
Well said
Ironically carrying a knife for self defense makes me feel more prosecuted than people looking for trouble
Don't be, use it for other purposes, always retreat first, if its not life or death its not worth it. Living is inherently dangerous, one cannot chose the environment, from bad actors to the lord that don't have your best of interest. I wish you trouble free through this difficult time ahead.
You won't be free until you shed that mindset.
Around 10 years ago I lived a block away from my sister. She called me late one night saying she heard noises in her backyard and was scared. I told her it was most likely a racoon or some other critter. So I came by with my Louisville Slugger, as I wasn't about to get bitten by an ornery racoon or a coyote if it happened to be that.
She decided to also call the cops. I checked out the backyard and found a big racoon and scared it off. The cops showed up while I was sitting on her porch telling her it was a racoon. The one officer decided to start questioning me about the baseball bat. I did tell the truth on it that I wasn't about to get bit by an animal so I brought it to keep an animal back.
She then tried to tell me that I brought it to attack a person, her partner ended up telling her to drop it and he apologized for her speaking to me like that.
On that day I learned that even if you are the one who called the cops, you too will be treated like a criminal by overzealous officers.
You probally would have been shot now a days
Bruh, as if there is not crazy people calling cops when they did all the problem in the begining,i saw it happen on multiple occasion, its more normal that you can think
Can't trust the cops man ! You got to avoid them like you avoid the bad guys, but never run from them if they pull you over !
Cops are not your friends 😢
That isn't zeal, but arrogance and fear.
I’ve gotten disillusioned with the laws of my country that I’m starting to to think if I defend myself physically. I need to make sure there are no witnesses, wipe my prints and hope the cops don’t start looking for me.
yes. exactly. and its even worse if you live rural like me were it can take any were of 15 to 45 min for rcmp to show up. if you had to defend your self. oh wait its canada you cant defend your self , ill just let them beat me for 45 min, cause i might go jail if i hit them back. or at lest be charged and have to spead a ton proving i had to hit them to save my self. and its canada so the fact i was charged even if found not guiltily it will still show i was charged on my record.
I'd rather be judged by 12 peers than be carried by 6 friends .
I'm sure they have similar laws in China
@@outdoorsythings2573that's a bunch of made up nonsense. None of that is true
@bradbradford8576 ever deal with rcmp on the rez? ye there not overly nice fellas and can and will charge you over anything. and yes up to 45 min. takes about 30 min to drive from one end of rez to other and we live on the edge of it, there only a few rcmp on at night and if there dealing with a problem at the other end they need finish there then drive this way , oh and if a train going by or stopped on tracks then add even more time.
Meanwhile, I thought I'd be the only one outraged that self defence is a crime.
Just do it with your bare hands, then it's nice and legal.
Kirk W I suppose it matters if you have had training in martial arts and to what extent.
@@dumpbear0 I would hazard the guess that it is already established that knowing martial arts or sports like boxing MMA etc constitute the use of the body knowingly as a dangerous weapon.
you legally cannot defend yourself without being a criminal in Canada.
that's the way they want it.
@@kirkw1740 its not legal if you have a way of running away...
I just spent 2years accused because i had to defend my familly...im the only canadian that got away with pointing a gun at someone s face without being locked up in jail!!
I fought in court and won!
Because i could not run away.i was surrounded by at least 30 people.my back against my front door!
it's democratic philosophy. You having that weapon is a threat to the "public" but a way of protecting yourself.
I always carry a pocket knife, have been doing so for 30+ years. And I will continue to until I’m too old to carry anything
I'm a bit older, so I've been doing it for a couple more decades than you... It's a tool, nothing more... It is pretty generic and takes the place of a lot of specialized tools... Screw loose in your eyeglasses? The tip of a knife blade will work in a pinch... Got a splinter? You can either dig with the point or shave skin with the edge to get the wood out of your hand... Trouble opening a package of snacks? Needing to cut or strip the insulation on a wire? Need something to cut the seat belt during an emergency? A pocket knife works perfectly... Eating at a restaurant and the knife they give you is so dull that it won't cut *butter* (much less the steak you were served)? Just use your pocket knife... Need to open a bottle or a can? Maybe not the preferred tool for these, but it can be used in a pinch if you don't mind having to probably resharpen your blade afterwards... And, of course for cleaning under your fingernails or dealing with an ingrown fingernail in a pinch...
Even though I always carry a handgun on me, I also carry a knife... They're both tools, albeit the knife is a bit more general purpose...
Same I usually have 2 or 3 box cutters on me. When my hands are full I need to reach one there's one that's reachable.
@@jakeblanton6853 USA I assume?
@@asawch4turbo -- Texas...
I think you would be better off carrying a muli-tool instead of a knife...
Then if you use it in a defensive encounter there is plausible deniability that you had it on your person for non-self defense reasons.
It never ceases to amaze me how garbage the laws in this country are.
criminals run it
sometimes I just love Texas
@@animeiphone8510and what are you doing? Jerking off to anime ?
Better than the states at least
@@Js-eq7yd how? In the states u can actually defend yourself and your family from idiotic people
A lawyer once told me "In Canada you're guilty until proven innocent".............
He's fundamentally not wrong
That’s actually French law. English law doesn’t operate on that premise. Trudeau Libs have snuck in a change so we operate under FRECH law so that is true but it is QC law that Libs changed into our legal system.
@@redrose-wb4bw You don't know what you're talking about. Quebec uses Canadian criminal law, and hybrid French civil law. Trudeau never made any change to the presumption of innocence. Is that an intentional lie, or do you get your news from Rebel Media?
Only if you’re not a criminal
Illegal to lie to police, but police can lie to you ie "we've got your DNA/ a witness identified you/ your buddies told us everything" and that's ok, laws for thee, not for me. Suck it peasants
Officer: the defendant was caught with a number of weapons in their possession
Judge: Continue
Officer: Their shoes could be used to beat someone, the laces could be used to strangle someone, the elastic band on their underwear to strangle, their shirt and or hat to blind a victim, and their pants to involuntarily restrain a victim
Judge: okay...that explains why you appeared before me today wearing what appears to be a bath towel
I don't know, a bath towel can leave a pretty good welt.
Hahaha that’s funny
Its all about INTENT! They still have to prove it... And its NOT like in the USA. Judges don't just say and do anything they like here... And YES! A Bic Pen COULD kill someone if used in that intent. What do you expect? That the law would NOT find you guilty, because its "just" a pen that you stuck in someone's brain? Or that its was "JUST" a shoe lace when you used it as a garrotte?
Judge: You could tear that bath towel into strips and use them to hang someone. 10 years in the slammer! Gavel: Bang!
Bath towel? Not a good idea, it can be used for waterboarding. 🤭
If you keep a baseball bat in your bedroom or in the trunk of your vehicle, put a baseball glove and baseball next to it.
Always do lol, learned that trick from dad
Not necessary in your home. Since it’s perfectly fine to have weapons in your home to be used as weapons, against people. In your vehicle out and about, you are right though.
Also a can of wasp spray. Because I hit the ball one time by bees and I'm allergic to their sting. Gives a bit of extra space to ward off "peaceful protesters" like in 2020
@@mouthbreather280 though I agree. It depends on geographic location. In Canada that may not go over well. We are only allowed to defend ourselves with minimum necessary force. E.g. criminal breaks into your house empty handed. And you hit him/her wife a bat. You will go to jail very quick.
@@stefanbukcev2249 not necessarily. So long as there’s an air of self defence in the situation, and you can articulate you felt your family and/or yourself were at risk of imminent grievous bodily harm or death, you are justified to use lethal force, however not an excess thereof. You are right that you would likely be brought in to jail, though that’s 99% likely in any self defence situation in Canada. I rarely see police use discretion in such situations to keep the victim out of custody and free from charges, but it does happen when police are actually on your side. Don’t count on it though. I should also add there is an implied castle doctrine in Canada which judges tend to support. So there’s pretty much never a need to justify not having tried to retreat when your home is invaded by a person. You are free to fight. But if you do use lethal force, just know you will need to articulate why it was necessary (bad guy advanced on me aggressively and with anger, I had dependents in the home, children, wife ect..). You may or may not face a court battle, be prepared to, but odds are you would not get convicted.
I carry a small legal pocket knife and beleive me I would pull it out in a second to defend myself if i had to. I would happily go all the way to the supreme court of Canada to defend my case! Eff the law that protects the bad guys!
Just be ready to lose. There's a man spending the better part of his life in jail here in Canada because someone broke into his house and shot him IN THE HEAD, while he was sleeping, somehow he survived, got the guys gun and shot him. Now he's serving a life sentence. There was absolutely no question of self defense in that case and he lost. But he's still alive.
As someone who did this hope you have at least $25,000 for lawer fees over a 3 year period
@@NeilTheKnifeGuymaybe being TheKnifeGuy hindered your case. Unless you became TheKnifeGuy? In that case totally worth it!
@Ryan-sl8mw nope it helped they were able to go into my video's and see that to me knives are tools not weapons. Never once did I say in 9 years that I would use a knife as a weapon.
Best part is when they.had to hand me back 75folding knives 3 swords , 2 hatchets and 17 fixed blades.
Carry a big "illegal" knife. People are the boss of the government.
My grandfather was from Europe, having a pocket knife was common place and readily used as a tool, from peeling an apple to opening a package. It's not even on their radar. In Canada it seems you're walking on pins and needles regarding what will be interpreted by the law.... it's ridiculous. Anything can be used as a weapon with intent, just because it's sharp tool doesn't make it inherently dangerous. I think this reflects more the paranoia of the government.
The Battle of Athens Tenn. Aug. 1&2 1946. on what a stolen election caused at a police station in 1946 America!!
100%
I love that fact that as a Canadian i am breaking the law every day by having a truck full of tools and a knife on me.
Just taking liberties with HTA is mine. Weapons free.
FBI OPEN UP
Fight the power.
How shocking!
“911 whats your emergency”
Me, as women walking home at night. "Guess I'll just die then"
The law in Canada is fucked. I know a girl who was put in jail for carrying and using mace (which is illegal) to protect herself for the same amount of time another women did for pushing someone on the train tracks while a train was approaching. (Luckily the train stopped in time but they are now paralyzed.) 4 years. 4 years for mace and attempted murder. There is no justice.
@@LOGIBEAR01 what? absurd. Women are more likely to be attacked. They easy to take care off, they weaker and they less likely will carry a weapon, not mentioned it also target for sexual assault. I would say women has more reasons to carry a weapon than men.
You can carry dog spray everywhere, you never know when a wild pitbull might appear
The guy at the store where I bought some said "I'm legally obligated to tell you that this is NOT for use on people.... But I will say there's some nasty fucking dogs in this world" hahaha
Yeah.
There's a lesson to be learned here :
If you have to attack someone in this country, do it but don't tell OR finish the job...
So it's always a good idea to have some bleach and a tarp nearby 😉
Stop making it about men and women. Men are in just as much or more danger, they just do a better job of controlling the prey fear that seems inherent in women. This whole "WAH WOMEN HAVE IT HARDER" narrative just divides us further.
I have historically carried a small swiss army knife in my makeup bag (cyclist, hiker and mariner). Have lost so many at the gate when flying that I had to give up the habit. It was so convenient. We, the law-abiding citizen, are *always* detrimentally affected by laws *meant* for criminals - when we all know that criminals don't follow laws anyway.
As an American I can't imagine living in a country with out basic human rights such as free speech and the right to self defense to mention a few. We have our own battles here to be sure, but my heart goes out to our freedom loving Canadian friends.
- "freedom loving Canadian friends"
Unfortunately there really aren't that many of us.
Trust me, if I had the means I would've moved to the States *DECADES* ago!
Forgot who this quote is from but;
"He who sacrifices his freedom for security deserves neither".
Yeh, this place is rule land.
@@flankerroad7414police state
This is over blown. Everyone carries a pocket knife and has zero issues.
"oh, no, I know It's a bad neighborhood, but this is for opening letters, don't worry, if someone attacks me, I fully intend to die per your wishes."
NO! Do Not Talk To The Police.
@@dragonmaster9360 I was cracking wise, making joke, funny for the laughter. THIS is the real, correct advice.
That’s y I carry one
that there are actually canadians against the right to self defense is insane to me
Exactly! They must be all those hill billy back woods people who can’t drive in a city and only come to “town” for groceries lmao!!!
More like rich liberals
@@tsnydstsnyds3982bro what do you mean? Thats all the people in the east, in toronto Ottawa big cities
@@tsnydstsnyds3982 you got it backwards. Hillbillies are usually conservative as fuck and most of them would have no qualms about blowing your head off and dumping your body in the middle of bum fuck nowhere. It's the liberals who don't think you should have the right to defend yourself
not Canadians just our tyrannical govronement
I have thought about this. I quite often carry a knife in my pocket or on my belt, since I was about seven years old. I can’t count the number of times I’ve used a knife as a tool, but I’ve never even thought about using one as a weapon. Instinctively, that’s how I would explain my knife to the police if they asked; now I think I’ll take the advice of a lawyer and just keep my mouth shut.
I’ve entered police stations, courthouses, and parliament buildings with a pocket knife and multi tool. I give them to security upon entering and get them back leaving. Never been asked why I have them. Actually been complimented on my EDC by cops; it’s usually a benchmade or a s30v buck folder.
Rule number one when confronted by cops - keep your mouth shut.
Rule number two - read rule number one.
Let your lawyer do the talking.
The Good ol' "Better to be Tried by 12 than carried by 6"
Matt Jean I love this
Being carried by SIX is not necessarily bad.
One practices and rehearses for that event constantly.
It's called SLEEP.
and when one's life ends it means one has finally reached their destination.
Sleep is there to teach you not to be afraid of it.
Think of death as permanent sleep.
There is nothing to worry about.
@@andrew_koala2974 no need to expedite eventualities.
@@andrew_koala2974 If you go to sleep and never again wake, did you live at all? Or do you awake into something much more real then this world?
Or, if you live in Canada or some place that does not respect the basic human right of men to bear arms, you dispatch the problem and leave, hopefully not leaving any evidence behind...
"My knife is a tool, I carry it for emergencies, and by their nature, emergencies are unknown until they happen. I also use my knife for eating food, for cutting string, gardening, opening packages and envelopes". Blade Forums about 10 years ago and worth committing to memory.
This was the what I said to an office staff member when they found out that I, the utilities operator, was carrying a small 3" folding knife. She made a huge scene about it and tried to get me fired. I quit not to long after that. I'm not working with people like that.
Nygel Blondin Reminds me of a guy that had a CCW. His boss told him that guns weren’t allowed. A while later someone came into the building and started shooting. Boss came and said Do you still have that gun? He said No, you said I couldn’t have it so it’s at home. His gun and a 12 gauge were in his truck. He said he wasn’t worried as the police were turning up and the shots had stopped.
@@nygelblondin9951All my office staff carry folding knife in the pocket.
www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/6491578/heroic-rescue-attempt-submerged-driver/amp/
Here’s a story from BC. An off duty RCMP saw a car go off the road into a creek, went to help the driver (only occupant) , he couldn’t free the driver until EMS arrived and tossed him scissors. The man later died. The officer showed heroism trying to free the man, but you would think he would know best the usefulness off a knife in car accidents. Seat belts are great and save lives, but in an accident they can trap you. My dad is a truck driver, and told me a story of a driver he knew that had to stand with a woman and watch and listen to her daughter scream being burnt to death in a car accident, he tried to get her out but the seat belt was jammed and couldn’t free her. In my area we had a woman flip her Jeep into the lake only a few feet of water and they couldn’t free her because no one could remove the seatbelt. They even had time to attach rope and tow the Jeep almost out of the water but the rope snapped and it slid back into the lake. My dad always told me, don’t wait for someone to come rescue, they will be there long after you run out of breathe.
@@sahamal_savu Okay, so what do you say when the officer says "why are you carrying that hunting knife on your belt"? Enlighten us.
Interesting fact. I went tot the provincial court house in my town a while back and had to empty my pockets to go through the scanner. I had inadvertently left my pocket knife in my jacket and put it on the tray. RCMP never batted an eye. Gave it back to me along with my other stuff and told me along to carry on
That exact same thing happened to me.
several years ago i was in a courthouse in red deer alberta paying a fine. a young man in front of me has a tiny swiss army knife. it was taken by the officer at the detector. the young man pleaded with them to return it so he could store it in his vehicle, as it was a gift from his deceased father. they refused and called in backup ( already 2 officers there). kid weighed all of 100 pounds and made no threatening remarks or actions. 4 more officers piled in within minutes, 2 of which were obviously excited for a violent encounter. they arrested him and dragged him away.
@KMVS8686 you don't know neither the canadian police nor the gestapo
I've been arrested multiple times with a knife in my pocket and have never been charged with having one. I've stated everytime when questioned about having a knife that I've always carry one because it's a tool, not a weapon. Always have it clipped to your pocket so it's not concelled. IF YOU STATE THE PERPOSE IS A TOOL it takes the premise that is a weapon away.
Officer: Why do you have this knife?
Smart-ass: Fishing. I'll say fishing. You seem to like fishing. Seems like you're fishing right now.
No , he was trolling .
I fish and i carry at least 2 knives with me lol
OK you say it's for fishing which is probably true. Let's say you use the knife to defend your life. Can they call it a weapon then charge you?
@@sisbrawny unfortunately probably lol also depends what kind of animal i am defending myself from
@@sisbrawny yes. As soon as you use something to cause or threaten damage against someone it becomes a weapon. That includes knives, kubatons or bananas in a self defence situation. Good luck proving it wasn't intended to be carried for self defence.
Personally, I believe carrying knives for self defence is absurd, they are not practical, especially folding knives. There is just no way you're going to have the fine motor skills necessary to deploy one in a life or death situation with adrenaline pumping. You can read many accounts of people failing to be able to use a key to unlock a door when they believe they are being followed, it's a common trope in movies as well. Even a fixed blade is absurd, it can't stop an attacker cold (except maybe for fear) and means you need to engage and risk having it taken from you and used against you. There's a saying that says that the winner of a knife fight wins the right to die second.
I've carried a knife for over 50 years. If you should somehow forget to have your knife with you, that's when you realize how important it is to you. I reach for my knife several times a day. How many hundreds of times per year ? There's just no telling.
it hasn't been 50 years for me, but i am the same. i have had a swiss army knife on me for pretty much a couple decades, almost non stop. i use it for work, i use it for fixing my glasses, i use the toothpick in it, i use it to cut the sausages that i go out to the local store to buy for provisions whenever i feel like going for a 3 hour walk. it is a tool... and in the unlikely event of a fight, if i happen to remember that i have it in my pocket, i am not going to think to take it out, spend the time it takes to open the blade, and hope the the blade doesn't fold shut on my fingers in the event that i try to stab someone with it, i mean, not unless the guy is polite enough to sit there and wait for me to unfold the stiff blade on it... it just isn't going to happen.
I carry a Case XX lock-back folder that won't close on your hand while in use. Here in Jacksonville, Florida a man can have a KA -BAR with a 7 inch blade on his belt. I spoke to the legal advisor for the police who told me I could wear a machete if I wanted, but he said he wouldn't walk into a Mc Donald's with one. This was several years ago, so the local laws may have changed.
Then it's a multipurpose tool that you use in emergencies. It's only a knife when you're using it to eat with cut string, garden, open packages, etc... And yes I do use it as a paperweight. It is a fabulous tool.
Garth van here
Swiss army knife?
Never heard of one.
I have a Swiss army multiparous tool that I use in various emergencies.
@@kevinoneill41 Does it make you feel somehow superior because you call your swiss army knife by a different name ?
Here's a little heads up .
You might want to learn how to spell " multipurpose " next time you want to appear superior to others .
for years I was on search n rescue ski patrols father and friends all on Fire departments. I was on the SAR that searched for Trudeaus brother. We all carried lock blades that are capable of opening one hand because more often than not your other hand is busy in some life saving situation. It pees me off that the politicians make laws that put first responders lives in danger because some punk uses a tool in a way it was not meant for to harm others. every day they use these blades to save lives
I was investigated by police on the street on multiple occasions over time, mainly because I often looked different or part of a marginal population, I always carry a pocket knife and I never got in trouble for it, the police would ask me ''Why are you carrying this knife?' I would just say that it's a very useful tool. Once the police asked me ''If we were to confiscate your knife and have some tests ran on it, would we find remnant of blood and other possible biological residues?'' I giggled and said ''No, you can take it if you must.'' . But the thing is, I'm not nervous at all when I'm dealing with the police, I haven't done anything wrong, so I behave in a relaxed way, I also remain polite and not snarky. I think in many cases it depends how you interact with the police.
Lol until the police take your knife and plant it at a crime scene because they need a suspect. Its happened before police planting sh1t
Absolutely. From the time a cop approaches you till they wave you off with “Thanks for your cooperation.” you are being mentally scanned by their “continuum of force” criteria. If you do nothing that moves you down that continuum you should have nothing to worry about.
Agreed
It nauseates me that we need videos like this. But I'm incredibly grateful to you for making it.
I don't think it's needed... just helpful.
Why in earth would knowledge “nauseate” anyone? Knives are in the top ten of items used to commit crimes, especially robberies so it’s good to know your rights. Especially for farm kids. We often have a Jackknife in our pocket and it’s important to remember to leave that at home!
@@judyives1832 Thomas didn't say the knowledge itself caused them nausea... they said the need to distribute it does. The implication being that it shouldn't be necessary. (Either because there shouldn't be problems with knives in scociety because everyone should be responsible with their knives thus making it unnecessary, OR that all who carries a knife should already understand that it's just not like that, thus there is a need for rules/laws about knives, thus they should know to look up the laws thus not needing to be told... if I had to guess I would say it's the former not the latter.
"Keep your mouth shut" is probably advice that can be applied to all interactions with cops. You will never talk your way out if they after you, you will only make it worse for yourself.
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I was falsely accused by ex years ago, cops ambush me in coffee shop, and told me that they want to talk, conversation proceed as follows:
Cop - we want to talk to you.
Me - ok, our talk is over.
Cop - bud, we trying to help you.
Me - I told you that I'm not talking.
Cop - well, then you have to go with us to sign a paper work.
Me - do what you got to do.
6 months later Crown withdraw the case.
I backed into a gas meter once and the cop was fishing for info looking to find out if I was impaired.
He keeps acting like we're buddies and at some point he mumbles about his "plumber buddy" that never leaves home without blazing, so he says- ya smoke weed?
I said- you're the police, and even if I did I would not tell you! lol
If I wasn't weed free I would simply say NO.
Never let your guard down with the cops!
Ah the good old "we are trying to help you" line to gain your trust and make you talk. Be alarmed when you hear an officer say this. I have great respect for the police but when it comes to the interrogation room, get a lawyer.
"We're trying to help" is such a bs line
@@donedeal725 I was asked one young cop a few questions regarding the legal obligations of cyclists, that he had problems answering, after which he asked my address and date of birth to run a history of me on his computer. He found nothing because there was nothing. His attitude does certainly not help police public relations.
Use Mr. Inbetween’s line: “I don’t answer questions.”
Thank you sssooo much for your free and Canadian based advice. I've been slowly teaching my kids to not talk to the police. But I didn't want to freak them out or anything. They heard me listening to this and I was again able to reinforce that.
"don't talk to cops" is something you should know just like looking both ways before crossing the street, or how to tie your shoes.
Thanks for such clear answers. Straightforward advice that’s easy to understand. Well done
Remember when a 4" folder in a pouch on your belt...in high school wasn't an offense. Or the shotgun in back window of truck during goose season, or hunting rifle in whitetail/ moose season In school parking lot? Was 1988 that strange.
@breathingsunshine in the parking lot of high school?
Downtown in front of store?
In Canada?
No, but it was a safer time.
@@geographyinaction7814 No it was not a safer time - but there was less sharing of information about how unsafe it was.
yes i do and there were no poor little triggered liberals in our school either. let 1 trigger and we would open a can of whoop-ass on them.
I'm not Canadian, but I can remember when teachers brought their shotguns to school too. Why, because they were going hunting with some students after school. Us farm boys knew where all the game was and usually had permission to hunt most farms. When I was in school most boys had pocket knives. From talking to different girls many of them had knives in their purses too. Did we get into fist fights, Yes, of course, but that's what they were, fist fights. We didn't get out our knives we didn't go home or get our guns.
When I was in highschool, a random kid had a knife that I thought was cool, but it was broken and pretty much dull. You could run the blade to your hand and it would be like a plastic knife.
As soon as the other dude handed me the "knife" I was surrounded by two to three undercovers. Arrested, suspended and had a 3 year court battle. My poor mother was devastated - our whole family had never had a run in with the law and it scared the living heck out of my entire family. The trauma is still not gone.
When the supreme judge saw my case, she threw it out. She said "why are we wasting time on stupid cases like this"
Keep in mind i was charged with the following:
-Possession of an illegal weapon
-illegal weapon possession on school grounds
-intent of harm (because I was asked if I would ever use it to protect myself FROM the officer. And I was stupid enough to open my mouth without a lawyer)
-concealed weapon charge
Those officers could have ruined my life. I was 15 at the time. Never had any priors, or any run ins with the law or even the school. This ruined my friends, no one wants to hangout with someone who was arrested in front of the whole school. To this day I'm worried of carrying a box cutter even from work.
Lesson learned : "I want my lawyer"
Entrapment.
Thanks for advising on what to say if found carrying a knife. "Say nothing" is what I will do and did not know I should do that. I use and carry a small knife for professional or trade/work purposes and just convenience for daily needs. Just a useful tool as you said but knowing I need to be "mindful" when talking to an officer in Canada helps. Thank you for posting this video!
Great video thanks! I've wanted to carry a small utility pocket knife for a long time but the laws always made me avoid getting one. Now I know where my rights start and end.
Seems the law is determined to make everyone a criminal. At least criminals can do whatever the hell they want. Just don't talk to cops.
10000%
We are all criminals, just a matter of what they will catch us with.
Just don't call them!
The main reason that these laws are on the books are so that police can confiscate weapons without having to go through a court trial. If they pull over someone and do a random search they can take these weapons regardless of whether they have evidence of any crime being committed. It is mainly intended for youth and street gangs so when a weapon like switchblades in the 1950's or Balisong/butterfly knives in the 1980's became popular they were specifically banned.
If you actually get taken to court for nothing but the weapon charge itself someone in the police department or prosecutor's office is essentially trying to harass you but you'll have no way of proving it. This kind of selective enforcement of laws is what makes these laws an issue.
Yeah, and there are other reasons for them. I remember when I was a kid a number of comercial fishermen (speciffically gillnetters) used to carry switchblades incase they got caught in the net, and had to cut themselves loose before being dragged over board.
A balisong is a practice butterfly knife and is legal, it doesn't have a sharp blade. The blade is hardened so it's difficult to sharpen and they usually have holes in the blade so it's not worth trying to sharpen them. Butterfly knives were banned because people were accidentally cutting their fingers off showing off with them.
@@livefreeinspirationalquotes No actually, it's 100% correct. A balisong is not a butterfly knife, you can buy balisongs in Canada,, I have one, I live in Halifax. Try visiting any army navy surplus, you can't buy a butterfly knife in Canada unless you obtain it illegally. Ask them about what you think are "butterfly knives" they have on their counter, which have a sign saying "balisong". They will tell you "we do not sell butterfly knives,, we are not allowed to, by law" And they will proceed to explain the difference between the 2, one which is razor sharp, and the other which can never actually be a knife because it can't be sharpened. A balisong IS a trainer, no less than a foam set of nunchucks is a trainer for the real thing, now shut the f*ck up since you don't know sh*t.
Is there a legal random such that you must allow?
I never have my knife or baton taken from me when dealing with police here in Canada.. When asked why I carry a knife and a baton by the police my reply is " because, legally I can."
I am always worried about this. I generally have a knife stationed near by since I sharpen knives and tools as a hobby. And like you said its a remarkably useful tool, especially when they are regularly maintained.
So technically my Milwaukee utility knife is a " prohibited weapon" lol... police better not go to any job site in Canada ever.
11:00 onwards. Basically says that cops can ask leading questions in order to get you arrested for carrying a knife if you say the wrong things. And I used to wonder why we couldn't just cooperate with cops. Eesh. Our legal system really needs an overhaul.
More importantly, the cops don't care if you actually committed a crime or want to commit a crime. They just want to trick you into saying the wrong thing so they can arrest you. Really speaks to the personal character of the average cop.
@@godsamongmen8003 I think it may be the opposite. The vagueness of the laws encourages the behaviour, so that otherwise upstanding cops become people just looking to put charges on the citizens.
Geldai013 Because average cop does not use a brain but,instead, uses the law . In 1930s it was illegal to shelter Jews from persecution by the state. Law can be evil and often is. And the purpose of the police is not to keep anyone safe but to enact laws created by the politicians. Period.
Police are not our friends. You have the right to remain silent. If you hear “weapon” & the cop is giving you the stink eye, or is trying to be your very best friend-STFU! For every guy convicted by the evidence, there’s dozens convicted by their own words because they failed to shut up & let their lawyers do the talking for them!
Thank you. I love this content but he is so long winded.
Remember it's illegal to defend yourself in this country.
They can have laws that say otherwise, but so long as it's illegal to own certain items or to carry things for the purposes of Defending yourself then it also makes self defense a crime.
What a fucking joke
I have heard a few stories from people I know defending themselves and being charged with assault from the actual criminals
Don’t get caught
Canadian laws are unlawful. They are just an instrument to keep the government control of the people and maintain their powers. This is the first step of every tyrannic rulers and Canadian citizens fell for it.
I don't know why you put up with this. Your country is getting as bad as China.
Always informative. Thank you
I have a pocket knife that I used multiple times per day - every day. The blade is about 2.5 inches long. Last night, while waiting for the bus after buying groceries, I was feeling peckish and used the knife to saw the heel off the loaf of french bread I'd just bought - and munched it while waiting for the bus to show up. When I arrived home, I used the knife to cut the straps off the bundle off the local 'free paper' that was sitting in the lobby, and took a copy upstairs for myself. I use it all the time to trim side leaves off tomato plants at my allotment garden, and also to cut lengths of twine for tying tomato plants to poles. It also gets used to open chip bags and other stubborn packaging, coring tomatoes, or slicing sausage. It lives in my jeans, always clipped to the pocket, and can be opened one handed by pushing it open with my thumb on the little screw sticking out of the blade - this is handy, as the item I'm intending to use it on is generally in the other hand. If I'm dressed, I have my knife - I have never in my 60 plus years of life used it as a weapon. I guess I"m concerned now - is having this 'deadly weapon' clipped into my jeans, illegal?
I like to say that Canadian laws ( not far from British law) is set to keep citizens at the whim of government, and no matter a victim or not ,you are not allowed to take authority from government.
Best advice ever spoken was to ; shut up ,and don’t speak to the pigs. They are legally allowed to lie straight to your face to get an arrest. And arrests are what determines promotion. Hmmmmmmmm
let's not forget that what a cop says and what a cop reports are seldomly ever the same thing. also, the testimony of 30 non-police witnesses are worth less than the word of a single cop that is 90% deaf in an incident report if the police wants it to be
A knife doesnt require authorization and also is not a weapon. It is literally one of mankinds oldest tools. This guys is an idiot.
Lying to get an arrest would be considered entrapment and isn't legal in every province.
Every lawyer i have heard giving advice has said," don't answer police questions." They are trained to question and interview. They do it every week if not every day.
@K Mills: this guy doing the talking is a Canadian defence attorney. A fucking lawyer. You don't think he knows the law!?!
@@alexhulea2735 Like it isn't like that in America. In the US, cops are recorded shooting people who have their hands up and get away with it since that person looked threatening to the officer. Also, give me an exemple where something like that that happened in Canada in the last 20 years.
If you carry an illegal firearm for example, that could result in a serious charge. I have lost count of the number of times I have seen criminals in a court, being charged with serious offences, including having on their person an illegal firearm which was used in the crime. And there is supposed to be a sentence for using a firearm in the commission of a crime. Yet they always drop that charge. But if you are carrying some rinky dink ten dollar knife for cutting string, newspaper articles or opening boxes and your mail, you could be up on charges.
I am a multiple trades guy and I have carried a work knife everyday for many many decades. I have gone through a few but they have been an invaluable tool. I am retired now but I do work around the house, home improvements, everyday. And I am a woodworker, always at the Home Depot, etc. buying lumber and hardware. My knife goes with me in a nylon case, with a velcro flap cover attached to my belt, so I guess that's considered concealed especially when a shirt, jacket or parka is covering it. Along with the knife on my belt is my flashlight and large tape measure and sometimes I also carry my multitool as well. Often I have a set of Channel Lock Multi Position Pliers in my back pocket. If I had to use something to save my life against some violent felon that the law is always letting off. I guess my first choice would be my Channel Lock Pliers. They would likely leave a mark and I would have more reach than my 4 inch bladed folding knife. Over the years, carrying a knife I have had numerous altercations on the street. Never have I ever pulled my knife. I have found it necessary to brandish other items but only used a couple in an actual fight situation because I was facing a weapon. Make no mistake about it though. It comes down to my life or that of my loved ones I would not hesitate to use whatever I have at my disposal. And the law can damn well let me off like all the criminals they routinely let loose on society.
@uncle bobs dead That seems to be the way it works.
Having other tools on you though makes it so its evident you are not carrying it with the intent of it being a weapon
Exactly they always drop the charges so honestly fuck it youll be good
Mm
Prosectors tend to drop some of the charges initially applied as they streamline their case. Police almost always charge with everything they think might stick and work from there.
Thank you for sharing your expert advice sir. This is all good information
This is great, I had no idea we weren't required to speak to the police!
An ordinary hammer is deadlier than most any knife.
Yep. But carrying a hammer around, outside of the proper context, will most likely be considered a weapon because it's intended use comes into question.
I'm guessing when you say most knives, you're likely refering to household knives. They are designed with a drop point instead of a clip point. Drop points are safer for handling in instances of cutting, chopping or whittling, as you can put your thumb or other hand on the spine of the blade more safely. A clip point is designed for piercing flesh in the form of a stab.
@@B-Rad-K That's when you wear a visibility vest
My old jobsite banned pocket knives. Exacto knives ok. Hammer okay. Chainsaw ok. Tower crane ok.
@TehFinalBrick I would imagine butterfly knives are illegal moreso because of the danger they pose to the wielder
"Innocent until proven guilty." Then explain reverse onus charges. Because to me, it sounds like, "guilty until proven innocent."
If you are actually looking for an answer and not being disingenuous, look up the Oakes Test.
If you've ever been arrested for a crime you did not commit you quicky come to realize that due process is a blatant prevarication.
You are guity till proven innocent you are living in the past you can be charged under civil law which means you will lose everything with no hope of getting your money back like dealing with childern aid society they have unlimited funds and time and it legal for them to lie!
@@vaughanerwin7195 the onus of proving innocence doesn't apply to civil law, I don't think you know what you're talking about.
@@legoboy7825 The Oakes test is employed every time the government tries to defend a restriction on the Charter rights of Canadians. Some legislation has passed the test. For example in R v Keegstra,[6] the Supreme Court held that a law against hate speech was a reasonable and justifiable limit on section 2(b) of the Charter, freedom of expression. The test provides a mechanism for the courts to balance, on the one hand, the government’s ability to achieve its goals and, on the other, the protection of individual rights. This balancing test is now considered a cornerstone of Canadian constitutional law.
Thanks for the knowledge you shared with us ☺️
Great advice. Thank you
Thank you for educating me on the multitude of traps carefully set in the criminal code of Canada and for the advice to "Shut Up".
Keep your mouth shut is always wise advice.
It's funny, when he pulled out the duct tape and two pens, I though he was going to show us some legal 'trick' of maybe using hi-visibility tape to fasten the knife to your belt or something and it wouldn't be 'concealed'. Imagine my laugh when the 'trick' was to keep your mouth shut !
Exactly. You don't say a word to the autorities, get a lawyer, and you may walk free.
“A wise man once said nothing”
Talk less, pay less, and probably get off.
That was an eye opener. Thanks.
From Texas: a long time ago, I thought Canada could be a nice place to live. I was young, seeking an orchestra job, y'all have some good orchestras, and I'd met some very nice Canadians in college, seemed like just another few states, nearly the same as the US. Fast forward to now, and I feel the chill (not meaning the air temperature) as I'd expect to feel in California. I say about the US, and it looks similar for y'all, that we have a dichotomy not so much Right vs. Left as Right vs. Wrong. And we can't count on the government not to be Wrong.
"Any thing used" can literally apply to any thing that exists.
Kind of vague for a legal definition.
It actually makes sense in terms of committing assault. If I take a pipe wrench and attack you with it, we want that to be a worse offense than if I throw a punch. So the "anything used as a weapon" covers all the ordinary things that would hurt if you got hit by them.
@@godsamongmen8003 But it allows the police to make assumptions and catch you in a crime, like having a hatchet in your trunk. It is unfortunate when one has to rely on silence so they do not get charged for what ends up being a potential weapon in regards to anything.
I could lose my car keys because I have considered to use them to protect myself even if I haven't actually ever had to which is enough for the police to charge me? that is ridiculous. This part of the law needs to be altered to avoid the possible intent the the police use to trap citizens with.
@@craigtucker1290 Just keep a Phillips or slot screw driver on your car seat, to change your burnt out headlight!
it's really not. Can you use a wet noodle as a weapon? I guess if you used tape on someone's mouth, tied them up, then stuffed the noodles up their nose to try to suffocate them. What matters is context and intent.
@@sinephase The problem with the way this is worded is that it relies on opinion and people, two things that are inconsistent and unreliable.
And yes, you could kill someone with a wet noodle if one was creative. Basically, by trying to believe that some things cannot be used as a weapon is challenging humanity to prove you wrong. Laws need to be defined rather than relying on opinion because opinion is too subjective.
Soooo, I'm dieing after getting beat up or stabbed and the officer bends down and says, to bad you didnt carry a knife to protect yourself. I had a cop here in the states that said they cannot be everywhere and cannot protect you. So why are we not allowed to carry something to protect ourselves ? So in Canada, you are guilty as hell and have to prove yourself innocent. Nope, rather prefer to be able to protect myself.
You nailed it. Our Charter of "rights" and freedoms have all manner of strings attached to them. They are NOT black and white as they are in the US.
@Dom Mck they will now take it away because you admitted that is or can be used as a weapon ! My wheelchair arms can be taken off quickly and be used for self protection. If I was in Canada they would most likely take them off or charge me for a crime because I just admitted that they can be used for self defense. It's pure insanity.
You're allowed to defend yourself in Canada, but with the minimum amount of force required... It is a massive grey area, even as a once-upon-a-time licensed security guard.
It's always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
@@user-uo7wg5br8n unless you get charged and spend $$$$$$$$$$ and spend time in jail. I have asked friends with carry permits how many times in the past years, 5 or 10, etc, that they had to use their gun and they all said not once.
Thanks for sharing. Interesting picture on the wall behind you.
You have the best explanations❤
I think the comment "keep your mouth shut when interacting with the Police" speaks volumes about the present state of "Freedom" in Canada.
The same thing applies to every single country, it's the nature of law enforcement
Same in the U.S. Every question will be used against you, every lie they tell. Shut up, shut up, shut up.
@@whatyouwontseeontv8266 LMFAO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. GOOD ONE!!!!! CHINADA. HOW CLEVER!!!!
It's always a good time to shut up and let your lawyer talk when a policeman comes at you randomly. Sadly
@@got2kittys cops are trained in "lying by omission" but it's actually worse with Federalayes (RCMP) than regular police forces, as the arrest/charge/recommendation is ONE person. With reg. police the cops arrest would go to a detective, who passes on to a superior. Lots of minds on the same problem. No so with "para-military" forces.
Recently Canada Border Services Agency has taken it upon it self to confiscate many folding knives being imported from other countries to Canada. It seems there is a conflict between the criminal code of Canada and CBSA policies. Would you please speak to that in an upcoming video.
I don't know about that, but in the last six months I've brought in three Buck 112's and one 110. Bought direct from the Buck factory. No issues.
@@HornetFlyer Those are not assisted open. A good example is a Benchmade Griptillian or Mini Griptillian. There is a thumb stud on the sides of the blade to allow you to one handed-deploy the blade. There is a spring system that assists with the final opening of the blade.
Because most of these knives have springs that can be overcome by sufficient force and skill with the wrist, they can be flicked open. Most require that the blade screw be loosened to allow for easier rotation but even one that is "properly" tightened, can be flicked open in the hands of someone like me, that likes to fiddle with something.
Because no assisted knife is actually automatic or a centripetal knife by design, there is no actual legal grounds for the CBSA to deny import. Furthermore, the RCMP have not reclassified these knives as prohibited either. But even with that said, I would not travel outside of the country with an assisted knife since the CBSA went weird. You don't need to be "randomly" searched on entry and be found to have what they deem as a prohibited device.
Jason Price the griptilian isn’t spring assist. Now the barrage is spring assist.
Not sure about it..but i know someone who just bought 20swords called -zombie killer- so i guess you are good to go!
CBSA changed their definition as to what constitutes a legal knife in Canada. Essentially all folding knives, whether assisted opening, automatic, or deploys by the use of a thumbstud, flipper or other protrusion from the blade section are now considered to be banned in Canada. According to the CBSA. They did grandfather in ao's and thumbstud deployed knives already in the country. The problem comes when the CBSAs definition and classification drastically differs from the Criminal Code of Canada definition which is enforced by all police departments across the country. If you go into Bass Pro, Canadian Tire or Princess Auto these days and look at their folding knives they all have nail knicks in them for opening them as it requires two hand to deploy and generally can not be opened by centrifugal force (another term that CBSA has included in their definition). Therefore any new folders crossing the boarder, from CBSAs perspective) can not have thumbstuds, be AO, automatic or be able to open via any type of centrifugal force and now requires two hands to deploy. Im not sure when CBSA gained the ability to over-rule the CCC and Crown definitions and laws but they did
Thanks for the advice.
As an Everyday Carry item, I have a multitool in my pocket, and I've often thought about the legal implications. I use it for work and general tasks around the house - like he said, it's useful to have something like this when you have to cut a piece of tape, or tighten down a screw. I had a cousin face charges for carrying a utility knife in his pocket after coming home from his construction job. I was carrying a tiny multitool, and it was seized at Frozen on Ice. Ever since, I've been careful to bring one to sensitive locations ie concerts, or border crossings. So, understanding to not say anything, is a much better option then accidentally admiting to some potentially admissible in court.
I have had a pocket knife from the age of 5, I have used one in so many ways, yet never had to defend myself with one.
If it came to that point, and I say if, then I would.
I carry a hunting knife with me a lot.
I use it for carving, in my kitchen and anywhere I need to use a knife.
I don't think of it as a weapon, I think of it as a useful tool, that's how I treat it as well.
I f you decide that the situation is dire enough to warrant a defense with a knife, be sure to know how to fight with one, or it will be taken and used against you.
Exactly the person behind the tool might be the weapon...
Most people carry folders and don't know how to use them for combat, it's a bad tool for combat because you have to think about the lock release button and in a fight when seconds count deploying it could be your demise with an experienced criminal or animal attack. When in the fight hit that folder with enough force and accidentally disengage the lock and it will fold into your fingers.
Officer: why you carrying a knife?
Me: never know when ya need to cut an orange
I just say i love cheese
A cut apple tastes better than just eating it whole😂
Officer: Sir, are you threatening the president?
@Super Duper I've just said "utility purposes," unless you're in a major city like Toronto where the police are more uptight, you're probably fine if you're calm and confident.
Answer:....*....
When it comes to self defence; it was put succinctly by an OPP officer "It's better to be judged by 12 rather than carried by 6".
I love that quote, would never "say it" but yeah....sounds bout right.
It's stupid advice! There are many ways that living by that motto can go terribly wrong for you. It is not a legal defence for one thing.
Rather be dead than live the rest of my life in prison or be free but the life’s is ruined anyways
“You can refer that question to my lawyer.”
when the word "reasonnable" is used in the criminal code concerning self defense
reasonnable to who ?
That’s a very good question
Guess we’ll never know
The Judge.
This might be covered in another video that I missed... but I believe it's the same situation with when the officer asks "Do you have any weapons?". The good hearted person thinks it's an honest idea to say "I have a pocket knife", unknowingly indicating they have a knife as a weapon.
That's doubly horrifying given that "do you have a weapon on you" is generally (in the states, at least,) one of the few questions you're _required_ to provide answer to cops should they ask it
@@codegeek98 My instinct would be to reply "No" and immediately follow with "I do have a pocket knife as a tool" and explain where it is on you. Then, wait for instruction. I have no idea if that's the correct answer from a legal point of view - but it does feel logical.
@@tbag-2224 If you said "no" without mentioning that you had this tool the police and a prosecutor could interpret that as lying to the police. Imagine that in court, "the defendant said they didn't have a weapon but when searched we found exhibit a, this knife". Whereas if you act like a jerk and not try to be polite and helpful to the police you're allowed to be silent and protected for that.
Hopefully police don't misuse the natural inclinations of innocent people and try and smear innocent people as criminals. Because I think most innocent people could be made to look like a criminal in this instance by a manipulative and deceptive officer.
@@ceomyr The whole answer would disclose that there is, indeed a knife. It would just be phrased in a way to not title it as a weapon. So shouldn't be considered lying. I carry a pocket knife. It's never been a weapon and is not carried for that purpose. Without intention or actual action to make it so - how can they consider it a weapon? Anything could be a weapon if used in that way... is there actual law that defines what is and isn't a weapon just by existence? Genuinely curious, not trying to be a dick.
@@tbag-2224 I'm saying your answer was very smart, because you said you had a pocket knife as a tool. I can imagine police or a prosecutor trying to incriminate you by trickery. If you said you didn't have a weapon, they'd say you lied to the police. If you said you had a knife they'd say you admitted it was a weapon. But you avoided both pitfalls with your clever statement.
It's unfortunate a person dealing with the police may have to be that clever to avoid trouble.
Excellent video, thank you.
Thx , I knew most of the Canadian rules but this was great details.
Every knife is just a tool, full stop.
@Alexander Di Cintio So you feel that your place of residence should dictate what you should own, or have in your possession?, my point is this, point at something on an average desk, a magazine or a paperclip I don't care what it is, I can kill a person with it, my weapon is in my head, It just so happens that I have morals and ethics, so even if a person happen's to be despicable and corrupt I wouldn't just destroy them out of hand, the only thing that keep's anyone safe from me is Me, and my sense of morality and justice, government has zero control over it. The only people that use tool's to commit a crime are the one's that are damaged by either lack of morals or lack of good education and upbringing.
Government has only the power we give it, and I and million's of others say they do not have the power to tell a citizen what they may own, full stop no debate.
@Alexander Di Cintio So you are saying it is the basic function of a government to dictate to you what your personal and moral responsibility is? is this not something we are supposed to learn throughout our childhood via family and community? the responsibility to respect other's and not run around like a heathen assaulting people, if we are doing the right thing as a community and this is factually the case and there is no reason for government to legislate morality, if you feel the need for a government to make "law's" that control your day to day basic behavior you (not to be rude) are a failure as a moral, responsible human being, and that is either a result of your family, or community failing to educate you.
If the community has differing belief's and that is the origin of conflict, then your community is very broken (this would be the fault of government due to something like immigration of non-compatible beliefs).
Now keep in mind that we already have special class in the country that get's exempt from the legal normal that all other's are held too. IE: the Sikh people, they have the right to ride a motorcycle exempted from the normal safety equipment that you must use by law, they have the "right" to carry a small dagger specifically designed and carried at all times to defend themselves and their loved one's from raiding slaver's of another "group" mandated by their religion and exempted by the "government" on the grounds of religious freedom, I don't recall hearing story's of rampant stabbing's in the general community because of this, maybe they understand "personal and moral responsibility. Maybe stop giving away your right to be a man over to the government, I remember being told by my Grandfather "a Gentleman always has a knife in his pocket as a basic tool just as a women has a hair pin or a handbag". Point is there are always "broken dysfunctional" people you can only weed them out as they show themselves, you are proposing that the government has the right to assume everyone in the nation is a broken dysfunctional human, that is a very dangerous place to live, sounds like something the Chinese communist party dose every day. I want no part of it.
All tools can be weapons, it's all about intent. IQ of our elected leaders seems to be in continuous decline, as the laws generated get dumber and dumber. Perhaps by design?
@Alexander Di Cintio no, many people are not good people, that is what prison is for, but it seems society has forgotten that concept of restricting bad people, and just restricting the available objects bad people are wont to use
@Alexander Di Cintio LOL so you agree with my argument entirely, the fact that we as a people try to accommodate "All" the cultures is essentially whats wrong with our culture, if we step back and take a look at what is going on we can see "yes broken people exist" however they can be weeded out if as a group you can recognize the abnormal behavior, largely you know what is normal and what is not, by adding all kinds of unfamiliar and foreign complexity and expecting all to accept and relying on Government to make law's to accommodate said unfamiliar and foreign complexity is wrong. You want everyone to conform to a utopian ideal that humans as a species will never be capable of, we are not machines.
You state " No government should dictate and destroy freedoms, but no on is free to intimidate others, weapons are intimidating when having no legitimate functional purpose. " with this i would agree, however you, the government, and random god's cannot dictate what tool a person carry's and how they use it, whether it is to fix a tangled shoelace or dispatch a bug with a flyswatter It is not your choice nor the choice of a government to legislate any part of it. As far as you trying to protect or educate anyone you have made the right choice, you state that you are not equipped for the task, you are also not equipped to give the power of control over others to any other entity or assume that they can control anyone for you or your safety, your safety is your sole responsibility and you alone must educate yourself as best you can to protect the one thing that counts foremost, which is You, without the knowledge to protect yourself you cannot protect you family or property, as long as you act within the accepted norm's and respect other's as you wish to be respected then you are good. You are not responsible for predicting the abnormality's or the dysfunctional behavior of other's , You are your own first responder, the Only person you can rely on is You, would you sit in the burning house waiting for the fireman to come and carry you out? No I think you would respond appropriately given that you know the personal consequences of in-action. My point is simple, relying on Government to legislate laws to protect you from living is ridiculous, and only a abnormal or dysfunctional human would ask for that kind of control. Do you currently where a mask in your car driving alone? because some authority figure said you should?.
Never talk to cops or answer questions without legal representation present! You do not have to talk to them ever! Most people are intimidated by cops, use your rights, know your rights and protect your rights! Stay silent! Ask to call a lawyer. They will usually shut up and leave or leave you alone!
Even if they don't shut up and keep asking you questions, just don't open your mouth. This is not illegal. Cops are allowed to lie as well, so they might even say if you don't answer their questions you'll be charged with "interfering with a police investigation" or something. It's all bullshit. Only open your mouth to request a lawyer, then let your lawyer handle it in the courts. If they cops ask why you''re not answering questions, blame it on your lawyer. Tell them that he told you not to say anything.
Good to know that
@@xuploads no all you say is I don’t answer questions from tyrants
Just found your channel, LOVE the content. I also loved your sword, never seen one with such a simple handle, much like that of a kitchen knife.
Interesting info for those of us who live in the States and visit family in Canada. I routinely carry a sheathed Leatherman Wave multitool in its belt holster for its utility, so I do not believe that counts as concealed. I guess I will remember the "stay silent" if asked. I have been carrying one at work for decades as an electronics engineer.
As for the automated knives, I still have a novelty from the '70s, a switch COMB. It resembles and operates like a flip-out switchblade, but instead of a blade, it has a comb attachment. Not something I carry, it just sits in a drawer as a novelty item, but I wonder if I did have it on me and was stopped for some reason how Canadian law and police would treat it.
I carry a knife every day, and I’m a full-time knife maker so a few years ago I thought I should look into this. Best I could understand from the criminal code was just as you said, it’s up to the discretion of an officer. This is fine as long as you’re dealing with someone reasonable but that’s definitely not always the case.
I live in a small town in northern BC, this time of year (autumn) it’s not uncommon to watch someone jump out of their truck, covered in blood, and walk into the beer store with an 8” Bowie knife on their hip. Anywhere in the lower mainland that would be the start of a horror film, here the guy has a moose in his truck and probably owes a buddy or two some beer for their help that day. Yeah he should have left the knife in the truck but context is important and why officers should be serving in communities similar to those where they grew up. We get a lot of young, arrogant cops from big cities trying to flex their “authority” on people who don’t deserve it and it’s going to get someone hurt (it definitely already has).
One final point of frustration is how it’s illegal to lie to an officer, but they can be “under cover”... 🤨
My friends and I call it the "don't scare the city folks" rider. Basically, in all of Canada, it is not illegal to walk down the road with a sword in its scabbard and hanging from your belt. It is, however, a REALLY bad idea unless you want a pile of attention.
I took my pocket knife out at work once and got a couple looks to be sure. I never did that again except in familiar company. I would NEVER take my knife out in open public. The handle scales are black so that means it is evil. I do, however, carry more than one item of utility on me so that I have alternatives that don't scare the sheep.
Canadian police lie all the time. During a court case, that I won, the two police officers involved lied about who was in the officer's car, where the officer's car was prior to the offense and where the officer's car was when they started to follow my car. I was told by my lawyer not to talk about the lies or bring them up in court. I was shocked and could not believe what I was being told. Tell the truth but not the whole truth?
In Nova Scotia, it is the law that all hunters must carry a knife (as well as a compass and a fire starter) with them in the woods. You can be charged if you don't have one on you and you are stopped by a conservation officer.
@@brentvalentine We call that "test-a-lying" in court.
@@user-uo7wg5br8n now there's some common sense.
The cattle aren't allowed to defend themselves.
We Canadians have laws that make it less likely for us to start shit. And in a wildly surprising turn of events, we don't start as much shit.
@@keithklassen5320 Has nothing to do with laws. Have everything to do with Culture. Why do certain demographic neighbourhoods in Canada (you know which ones I refer to) always “start shit” in spite of these laws.
This was very informative, thank you!
My question is, if the carry clip is visible outside your pocket, is it still considered concealed?
Good video. I have a question regarding the discharge of a firearm on an acreage in rural Alberta, Canada. Does the law stipulate the size of the land parcel in acres/square footage and the proximity to a nearby residence, that one can legally discharge a weapon. Would be interested in your take on this, thanks.
Laws in Canada regarding self defense are fundamentally unjust, you have no legal right to self defense so if you're going to do so, make sure it is out of the sight of any potential witnesses even if you have to "flee" just far enough to be out of the sight of others and then commence defending yourself, and never let anyone know you're carrying something that can be used to assist in defending yourself.
Do NOT call the police, and do NOT answer questions, and flee the scene as soon as your are finished defending yourself or are safely capable of doing so.
It's not like the offender is likely to call the cops on you... 😂
Nonsense. You are 100% entitled to defend yourself from an attacker. You're just not allowed to carry a weapon specifically for self defense. Think about it. What sorts of activities are you engaging in that make being attacked so likely that your feel compelled to arm yourself? Probably nothing good.
I have a friend who is a BJJ black belt or whatever. One night, someone accosted him at a bus transfer station (tried to mug him I guess?). So my friend defended himself. He broke the guy's arm and shattered his jaw. There happened to be a cop nearby who heard the commotion but didn't actually see what happened. When the cop arrived, my friend looked like the bad guy so he was promptly arrested and charged. There were no witnesses, but luckily there was a security camera that saw the whole thing. As soon as the cops saw the footage, they dropped the charges and he was released. Then they went and arrested the other guy instead.
@@nuynobi Your example is proving mysteriousfleas' point. Your friends was falsely accused and even charged of a crime. He was lucky enough to have access to a security camera. Either way, if he were to flee after defending himself, he would have been safer.
@@ExecPro_Lucas_aka_MUSCLE_GUY Huh? He was protected by the fact that it was self defense. And that's despite the serious damage he inflicted.
I haven't thought about this incident in many years. It's possible I have some details wrong. In particular, it seems unlikely to me that the cop wouldn't simply arrest both of them and worry about blame later. Presumably, each claimed innocence and blamed the other, and there were no witnesses to corroborate either story. Rather than risk setting the real assailant free, it would be prudent to arrest both. That way you're sure you have the wrongdoer. Or perhaps they're both equally culpable. The other guy obviously needed to go to the hospital, but he could have been in custody at the time.
So my friend was arrested simply for being involved in a fight and the fact that it was self defense was irrelevant at the time.
I'm also not sure if he had already been officially charged before the security footage was found, or if they were holding off until they saw what was on the tape.
It's hard to say what would have happened had that security camera not been there. It would have been one's word against the other. Simply being the winner doesn't make you the aggressor, even if that's what the cop initially assumed.
you're comparing average citizens to someone that paid a lot of money and took a lot of time to become proficient in self defense of that manner, sorry but this is a completely biased and honestly stupid way to think. you just described a situation in which your friend was being mugged which is a circumstance that a lot of people that don't have much think about often, so now that you know that can you seriously tout the nonsense belief that everyday people wanting a means to protect themselves from a circumstance such as this are just blatantly up to no good? You should have just came out and said your bullshit opinion that anybody that wants to have the upper hand on criminals, are in fact criminals themselves. You are incredibly obtuse for believing in such a rhetoric and you should be ashamed of yourself for trying to push this agenda; you are either a cop, or have cop friends if you believe this, and go about your life so naively; sorry but most of us don't have that luxury as the police are apathetic to pretty much anything that requires actual police work.
Do not believe a word that this person says, if you protect yourself in any manner you will still be scrutinized by the police, fined, and sometimes jailed for defending yourself. If you must conduct self defense against an assailant, to the police you are both at fault, they don't care about self defense unless there is extraneous evidence proving you were without a shadow of a doubt going to die, or suffer grievous bodily harm from the attacker had action not been taken.
As an indigenous man I'm more versed in how the "law" really works for the average person, you have to be or you can find yourself on a one way trip out of town in sub-zero temperatures, but please I would love to hear your retort Mr. Privilege. @@nuynobi
Other examples of prohibited weapons, due to having a handle perpendicular to the cutting edge of the blade, would appear to include a woodworker's chisel or a standard disposable razor.
Thanks man. Clarified perfectly
Great video! I am a knife collector living in canada and I also use a folding knife everyday at work. What I find ridiculous is that you can purchase a legal knife with an axis lock from almost any knife store in canada and the police are calling it a gravity knife because you can flick it open, and they charge you with possession of a prohibited knife. Why are they allowed to sell these knives if they are saying there prohibited?
Because you pay taxes on it, and then you pay fines on it too. Win-win for them. All about $
I'm assuming legal to own, but not carry. Its society's fault for all these insane regulations, they gave politicians power and now they're mad that these freaks got drunk off it, what were they expecting...kindness from megalomaniacs.
they should not be allowed to sell any item that police could possibly say is illegal. this is so backwards and why politician/law regulators need to have a reasonable educational background in the fields they are elected for.
It’s great to have you covering Canadian legal issues. I keep a knife with my medical kit and basic tools in the trunk. I’ve wondered if that could be an issue. If I go out of town I carry bear spray as well.
But it's not for personal protection if you are attacked by another human right. Right.
@@kevinoneill41 heaven forbid sir!
It's good to take care of your self.
Seeing the criminal (s) have the upper hand.hint a tire thumper is a tool.ha.ha..
@@richardcoates5688 sounds like ha ha until a guys jumps you while you were changing your tire and you use it to protect yourself. Seems like the "Crown" would have you drop the tool and run if you can or drop the tool and beg the bad guy to wait while you call the cops and then wait the 10-20 minutes for them to get there. Tell me I'm wrong would love to be.
Great tips, thanks
I have at least 5 knives within 5’ of me at all times. Bedroom, kitchen, car, pocket, jacket. No interest in hurting anyone but if attacked, I prefer to be judged by 12 lest be carried by 6!
I was once stopped by police for some trivial reason and the conversation became somewhat adversarial. The junior countered with a threat to take me in for carrying a ‘concealed weapon’ (Swiss army knife in leather pouch, on my belt, and half covered by sloppily untucked t-shirt).
Been carrying a knife of one kind or another in Canada ever since I was in Cub Scouts back in the 1950’s. Either a Swiss Army or a sheath hunting knife. Never been in trouble with the law. I’m an old man now and I’ll continue to carry a knife until the day I die. I still believe I’m a free man.
that last part... you are not "free"you never were, and never will be until you pass sir. its just an illusion to keep you docile
keep on believin that, ol timer lol
@@brain4154 Keep laughing out loud, boy.
@@NightWarp As long as I’m free to own small portable general coverage communications receivers with SSB, and listen to the world……as long as I’m free to use my passport to travel…. to get on a nice big Airbus, or a nice Boeing 777-300ER with my 21 litre convertible backpack and 6 litre crossbody sling bag, and little fanny pack, and fly to other countries I wish to fly to, and stay and live there for months on tropical beaches on the other side of the planet, …then I’m free in this world.
You can stay home living in your mother’s basement and not be free.
@@robertwilliamson6121 I guess internet is slow on your tropical beach. Took you 10 months to answer. Or did you just get released from jail? Anyways your comment was cute until the juvenile mom home at the end.
I wish I had this when I was in first year law school, c. 2017. Thanks.
Officer: whats with the knife
me: restaurants that give you a butter knife to cut a steak
Officer - "ahh, I see. You hold a grudge against bad business practices. Seems you brought a weapon to intimidate them into giving you proper utensils".
You failed the main take away here - keep your mouth shut lol
@@jayjayhooksch1 do you mean like how you failed the main take away of humor from me? Or do you just go through comments and look for ways to show off your smug better then thou attitude
@@helkdona226 mine was also humor. Note the 'lol' at the end.
Hi ROTB! I listened to your entire post, and just felt I had to comment. I recently had 3 knives imported from the US, and 2 of them had thumb-studs and 1 had only a nail-nic. Customs seized all 3 knives for having thumb-studs, or as they called them "index flippers". I have had other knives seized, but they were, according to current laws prohibited, and I knew that before I ordered them but thought I'd take a chance they would slip through. Once seized I simply abandoned them, but for these recent knives I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that the knife with the nail-nic could not under any circumstances be "flicked" open, so I decided to appeal the decision. This cost me additional funds to have my letter to Customs printed out, as well as the cost to register the letter just to ensure it got to it's destination, because at this point I wouldn't believe Customs if they told me there are 24 hours in a day, and didn't want them trying to tell me they never got my appeal letter when I eventually would contact them to see why my appeal wasn't moving. After emails from Customs requiring me to submit certain information I sat down and wrote out my appeal letter. About 6 weeks later there was a package in my mailbox that contained ONLY the knife with the nail-nic, and a letter of explanation. They denied my appeal and claimed that the 2 knives with studs could be " flicked" open AFTER gentle manipulation on the stud, which is likely true because they were not true slip-joint knives. The reason I thought I wouldn't have any import problems with all 3 knives was because the CBSA website info claimed that knives with studs were generally not considered "gravity" knives and legal to import, UNLESS the knife could be "flicked" open AFTER gentle manipulation of the stud, nail-nic, or any other non-edged part of the blade, and unfortunately I have to assume my knives fell into that category. I had pre-read this info, but thought the knives I'd ordered wouldn't "flick" open AFTER using the stud to start the blade out of the channel, but I was wrong. The whole point of my story is, Customs are illegally interpreting ALL knife laws however they see fit, and there's not a doubt in my mind that the agents are out-and-out STEALING all these seized knives and taking them home for their own personal collections. The knife industry has become HUGE, and not even the Customs Clowns are oblivious of the fact that there's BIG money in knives right now, and they want their piece of the pie! Thx for lettin' me rant!
thanks , good show.
I've carried pocket knives and occasionally, belt knives, since I was 6 years old when my Dad gave me my first one. I've never had difficulties with police and I have spent a lot of time around police in my profession. All my knives are tools of one sort or another and I have well in excess of 50 of them, mostly related to cooking. I also have a sword which is employed strictly for the marvelous fun of opening bottles of bubbly wine. 😀
"..doing horrible damage to a chicken..." That was funny. I watched this video because I wondered about my right (?) to carry a pocketknife, which I've done since I was a Cub Scout 50 years ago. (I always thought it was normal and legal.) The answer comes at 12:07. Thanks, Runkle!
This is really helpful. I carry a knife and I've read up on the laws but this is very clear and makes me feel a lot more comfortable with it.
and then you'll use it, the crown will then either throw you into jail or throw you into poverty with lawyer fees which in itself is a form of jail. you'll never win, and it has happened to many people. that farmer that shot that guy that was carrying a gun or whatever and got off the hook with no jail time? poverty due to lawyer fees. it'll happen to you too if you dare use it in that way and there's nothing you can do about it. and i really mean nothing you can do :D
I work on a farm and often go to town, forgetting that I have my pocket knife on me. 3 inch blade that looks like a mini-clever, no point, the tip is 1 inch wide, so it's impossible to stab with. But if the cops called my boss, he would tell them the knife is for work, I'm sure of it.
Thanks for this info. The question I have is when someone means to do you harm, what type of force multiplier is allowed here in Canada?
When you start understanding the law in this country, you start understanding that you're a peasant. You don't own the land. You don't have the right to defend yourself. You are not a person. That's the bottom line.
Sadly... Canada is still a constitutional monarchy. Therefore we are serfs
Freedom is a fallacy
99% of people were born, will die a peasant.
Just the way it is.
No shame involved.
Probably why liked being a pirate as a kid.
@@thehouseofronin9209Canadians are not serfs for not being able to use unreasonable force to defend yourself. Canadians are smart for self defense and weapon restrictions. Look at the amount of violent crime in the US because of unrestricted access to many weapons for self defense or for crimes.
@@nogreatreset8506 I disagree
Just carry a fork and spoon too, then it’s just cutlery. Mans got a right to eat
Can still be considered a weapon looking at Canada's pathetic laws
@@jessiequinton9974 maybe but thats up to the judge/court to lay final judgment on, not the cop. So just shut up and go to court.
if the pig is looking to get anyone into trouble, a 1 inch (blade) blunt souvenier folding knife is a conceled weapon designed for war
Mans gotta eat Julian
My knife is usually covered in grease from eating steaks anyways🤣