I own both (black dial Explorer II, and no date sub though) and I prefer the Explorer II over my sub. It’s an awesome looking watch that also flies under the radar and is one heck of a daily tool watch.
Great video! Please keep this channel going, its one of my favorites. I'm thinking of buying some of your artwork, should come by your gallery next time I'm is town?
@@captainmike3557 Yeah, I am very careful with my watches. But sometimes I get a tiny scratch on the watch case and it drives me crazy. If it's on a big surface I can remove it with polishing cloth. But sometimes it's harder to remove when it's next to an area with brushed polishing.
Submariner is fairly easy to get at some stores. Where I’m currently located about six months and like I told you before my dad got three black sub dates within one year between two stores. Got two within six months from the same store… I’ve been on the list for the explorer II polar at a California store for a couple years. Most stores I’ve spoken to said they only receive about 1-2 polars per year.
@@KLucero22 it is true, I was also thinking about it but since the sapphire crystal is unavoidable unless they want plexiglass, then steel bezel is a choice to eliminate 1 possibility.
The waiting list time seems crazy, only 8 months to a year? Everywhere it’s plus 3 years. I’m new to your channel, so I don’t know your collection. How many watches do you have from your AD since your wait is so short? 😅
I like your channel Cheyne. I think the content is good and I like that you have a user point of view as someone who truly uses them professionally out in the field. There are a lot of "experts" out there that do the specs and get into all of that but true daily performance and perspective is important to me. I own both of these as well, in prior model and love them. I also do like your art work, trying to figure out a nice one for above a bed in a guest room. My wife and I really love mountains. Do you have any suggestions? :) Keep up the great work my friend.
Thank you Thomas, I'm doing my best to give that "unique" insight. Both great watches! I just captured this amazing mountain image up in the Eastern Sierras : cheynewalls.com/2023/09/21/natures-fury-and-beauty-lightning-strikes-mammoth-mountain/ Or please feel free to check out my website for other options. cheynewalls.com/ If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Cheers
@@cheynewalls Hi Cheyne. We are currently measuring the space and seeing which mountain options you have that could work. I'll be in touch. I also really like the Explorer II print you have but convincing my wife of that one is much more difficult! :)
@@thomasjaeger2577 Great, Thank you for the update. We normal accompanies a larger art piece with a free copy of my book, but I can switch that with the Explorer II print. Cheers (Just a heads up : me and my team will be out of town till Oct 2nd on a photography shoot and will reply to any questions on our return, have a great weekend)
Thank you! I'm doing my best to convince my staff. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we we're hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort. We'll do our best! Cheers
I own both explorer 2 polar and sub no date both mid 2023 purchases new from AD and love them both immensely, but I just ordered the new Blancpain fifty fathoms 42mm blue in Ti23 and it's awesome.
I like your channel, Cheyne. A lot of content creators review watches; you USE your watches! I must say, I really like having a timing bezel for timing random stuff like burgers on the grill. If that bezel on the Explorer II turned, it would be the perfect watch for me.
100% if the bezel on the Explorer II turned it would be the perfect watch. Thank you! I'm doing my best to convince my staff to keep the channel going. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we we're hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort we put to this channel. We'll do our best! Cheers
Well, since I’ve been on the “list” for over 2 years for both at three ADs, I’d say whichever one I actually ever get a call on is the best tool watch 😂
Thank you, I think you are talking about my leather strap? Its a custom strap I picked up when I was visiting Taiwan. It was so hot and humid I wanted something other that the metal bracelet. Cheers
Regarding durability: I think EXP2 wins out - better shock protection, and no rotating bezel, ceramic insert, or glidelock clasp, which are additional points of failure. I suppose the Submariner is more durable if you are a saturation diver.
All very good points, I can just say that I have dropped and hard hit my Rolex Submariner on rocks, dirt and trees many many times. I can't believe that ceramic bezel still (to this day) shows no signs of its harsh treatment. Yes the Explorer II has handle similar punishment, but it has left deep scratches and dents, which I love, but most people don't. That is why I graded how I did. My Rolex Explorer II looks beat up and used (again I love that), My Submariner almost looks brand new, still. Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Cheers
@@cheynewalls thanks for the reply, Cheyne, and wow, your sub has taken a beating! Glad it still looks like new. I own a pre-ceramic sub and it is incredibly durable, although the aluminum bezel does show some patina (which I don't mind). On a side note: as unbelievable as this sounds, shortly after posting my earlier comment, my AD called me and I am now the proud owner of a white-dial Explorer 2. How crazy is that!
The Polar dial Explorer II is more popular now than its ever been. According to comments on this channel people are waiting 8 to 16 months on a waiting list. Also Rolex doesn't make as many Polar dials as they do black dials. Cheers
The most iconic watch of all time is the jubilee bracelet fluted bezel Datejust. The Submariner is invisible to anyone not into watches. The Datejust on the other hand is recognised around the world by people that have no interest in watches.
in Austria one AD told me 10 years for submariner date, the other AD said not possible at all, ˋwaitlists are full and only for customers with purchase historyˋ…
@@cheynewalls guess demand is really different in each country.. i live in the capital city and wearing a famous rolex model isnt safe in some districts.. im searching for a good daily beater thats not that recognisable as Rolex... or a Rolex model that not very recognisable like the Explorer1 & 2.. but im kinda leaning towards the Omega seamaster diver 300 white dial.. cause of the price /looks/availability /less recognisable.. + my boss has a Submariner anyway, it wont be a good idea to show up as if im the boss (office job) 😂 the other boss has a blue seamaster tho... my current beater/work watch is Unimatic U1. any recommendation of which watch ?
I think they are the type of watches that can be classified as anything, beater, luxury, sport, dress, and field watch. A luxury time piece that is tough, durable and very accurate, that can be worn in the most inhospitable environment all the way to any high-end luxury event.
If you remember 6 or 7 years ago all most all Rolex watches could be found well below retail, I wouldn't say RIP, it was just a crazy market flux. Now we are in a more stable market. Still amazing the Rolex market, what other products can you use for a year or two and then sell that product for nearly what you paid new, not many. Either way not going to sell my beloved Rolex watches, planning on handing them down to the next generation.
I'm doing my best to convince my staff to keep the channel going. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we were hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort we put to this channel. We'll do our best! Cheers
What Rolex watches do you or have you owned? What experience makes you think that? I can say from 20 years of experience using watches in the field that the Rolex Explorer II & Submariner are the best tool watches I have come across. I have owned many watches, including G-shocks, Omegas, Breitling, Panerai and Longines. All great watches, but none are as good of tool watches as the two Rolexs I now own. Cheers
Well I do. Its the only watch I have found that can withstand all the harsh environments I go to photograph and is well designed for constant traveling. I have tried G-shocks and watches with batteries, but they always die on my when I'm out snow camping. Other mechanical watches aren't as accurate as I would like, but with Rolex +2/-2 seconds a day its perfect. A Rolex is very durable, relabel and accurate, both in short term and long term. It is the best ever tool watch.
Which Hamilton watch? I had one of there Khaki Aviation and it keep the worst time. So bad I just got ride of it. I like the design of most their watches. Do they have any certified movements? After about two decades of using watches in the field, I have learned if a watch or it's moment isn't COSC, METAS or ISO 6425 certified it usually doesn't last long. Cheers
@@cheynewalls not true. Have you ever tried a seiko? I have numerous seikos. A few of which are from the 70s and runs well despite it never been certified.
@@joonkt3483 Sorry, what is not true? Yes I have had a few Seiko watch. Good little watches. I had the problem that after wearing them a few years in the filed they started losing a lot of accuracy.
Ffs I bought my first omega at Costco. Wait was about a minute at the window you get the expensive stuff at. My first Rolex was 2 year old sub and price was 40% off of the new one, which the store had several.
I own both (black dial Explorer II, and no date sub though) and I prefer the Explorer II over my sub. It’s an awesome looking watch that also flies under the radar and is one heck of a daily tool watch.
Yeah, I like both the watches, but the Explorer II is a very special watch. Cheers
same...black dial Explorer II and no date Sub, and I find myself wearing the Explorer more.
Great video! Please keep this channel going, its one of my favorites. I'm thinking of buying some of your artwork, should come by your gallery next time I'm is town?
Thank you, Sure feel free to swing by or you can purchase artwork off our Online Shop : cheyne-walls.myshopify.com/
Cheers
I'm the opposite of you. I hate getting scratches on my watches.
Love getting scratches on my watches. Cheers
@@captainmike3557 Yeah, I am very careful with my watches. But sometimes I get a tiny scratch on the watch case and it drives me crazy. If it's on a big surface I can remove it with polishing cloth. But sometimes it's harder to remove when it's next to an area with brushed polishing.
The Explorer II is designed for cavers. Our gear gets beaten up. Worrying about scratches… that’s for surface-dwellers.
Submariner is fairly easy to get at some stores. Where I’m currently located about six months and like I told you before my dad got three black sub dates within one year between two stores. Got two within six months from the same store… I’ve been on the list for the explorer II polar at a California store for a couple years. Most stores I’ve spoken to said they only receive about 1-2 polars per year.
Thanks for the info. Yeah it's wildly different between ADs. Cheers
Please stop splitting your videos. They’re great videos. But it’s so much better watching them in one go!! ❤
On durability, ceramic bezel can cracked if drop or hit on it. Hence Rolex still prefer metal bezel for the Explorer II
Yeah, I'm going to be careful about that. Cheers
Yes but the sapphire crystal can also shatter either way
@@KLucero22 it is true, I was also thinking about it but since the sapphire crystal is unavoidable unless they want plexiglass, then steel bezel is a choice to eliminate 1 possibility.
I like this down to earth content! And I also prefer the aluminum bezels that show scars. Subbed!
Thank you, Indeed, every scratch is a memory. Cheers
The waiting list time seems crazy, only 8 months to a year? Everywhere it’s plus 3 years. I’m new to your channel, so I don’t know your collection. How many watches do you have from your AD since your wait is so short? 😅
I only have the two Rolex, Explorer II & Submariner. Cheers
@@cheynewalls Amazing, you must have been under a lucky star ☺️👏🏻🙌🏻✨
@@gebbesen I got very lucky with a great AD, Cheers
I like your channel Cheyne. I think the content is good and I like that you have a user point of view as someone who truly uses them professionally out in the field. There are a lot of "experts" out there that do the specs and get into all of that but true daily performance and perspective is important to me. I own both of these as well, in prior model and love them. I also do like your art work, trying to figure out a nice one for above a bed in a guest room. My wife and I really love mountains. Do you have any suggestions? :) Keep up the great work my friend.
Thank you Thomas, I'm doing my best to give that "unique" insight. Both great watches!
I just captured this amazing mountain image up in the Eastern Sierras : cheynewalls.com/2023/09/21/natures-fury-and-beauty-lightning-strikes-mammoth-mountain/
Or please feel free to check out my website for other options. cheynewalls.com/
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Cheers
Hi Thomas, Did you and your wife find an art piece that you liked? Cheers
@@cheynewalls Hi Cheyne. We are currently measuring the space and seeing which mountain options you have that could work. I'll be in touch. I also really like the Explorer II print you have but convincing my wife of that one is much more difficult! :)
@@thomasjaeger2577 Great, Thank you for the update. We normal accompanies a larger art piece with a free copy of my book, but I can switch that with the Explorer II print. Cheers (Just a heads up : me and my team will be out of town till Oct 2nd on a photography shoot and will reply to any questions on our return, have a great weekend)
Always enjoy your content. Please keep it going.
Thank you! I'm doing my best to convince my staff. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we we're hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort. We'll do our best! Cheers
Enjoy your content, bought one of your art pieces because of watching your RUclips videos on watches.
Cheers, Thank you Kevin. Which art piece do you have?
Canyon sunrise. We love it, plus it's one of the amazing arches we have been to in Utah! @@cheynewalls
@@Grape_Academic Love Mesa Arch, Thank you again! Cheers
I own both explorer 2 polar and sub no date both mid 2023 purchases new from AD and love them both immensely, but I just ordered the new Blancpain fifty fathoms 42mm blue in Ti23 and it's awesome.
Yeah, let me know how like Blancpain fifty fathoms 42mm, beautiful watch.
Both are great watches, actually it's really hard to choose one, Thanks for your review.
Thanks for watching! Cheers
kermit mk2 came in waaaaaay early late last month. wasn't expecting it until spring next year! cheers man!
Congrats, Cheers
@@cheynewalls thanks man
Brother also tell plzz, which Rolex gets more public attention/under Radar scenerio.
I'll have that follow up video coming out soon.
@@cheynewalls okk
Submariner will be way more attention grabbing
I like your channel, Cheyne. A lot of content creators review watches; you USE your watches!
I must say, I really like having a timing bezel for timing random stuff like burgers on the grill. If that bezel on the Explorer II turned, it would be the perfect watch for me.
100% if the bezel on the Explorer II turned it would be the perfect watch.
Thank you! I'm doing my best to convince my staff to keep the channel going. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we we're hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort we put to this channel. We'll do our best! Cheers
Then you need the GMT Master II. That is actually the sub and expl. Merged😅
@@gebbesen YES! Exactly. I’m showing this to my wife.
@@chriscon8463 Yeah!
Well, since I’ve been on the “list” for over 2 years for both at three ADs, I’d say whichever one I actually ever get a call on is the best tool watch 😂
Yeah your story is crazy, hopefully soon.
Nice comparison video. About to watch the second part. What’s that strap you have on the Explorer II? The combo works extremely well.
Thank you, I think you are talking about my leather strap? Its a custom strap I picked up when I was visiting Taiwan. It was so hot and humid I wanted something other that the metal bracelet. Cheers
Submariner all day long over the Explorer II. The glidelock clasp alone is a huge advantage. But overall, it’s just a more versatile watch.
The glidelock system is nice. We will have to see what the final score say. Cheers. Love both watches
The Explorer is the nicer looking watch
@@nerychristian That is 100% subjective. It’s like saying red is a better looking color than green.
Makes no sense the Explorer doesn't have glidelock too. Well all of Rolex's sports watches TBH.
Regarding durability: I think EXP2 wins out - better shock protection, and no rotating bezel, ceramic insert, or glidelock clasp, which are additional points of failure. I suppose the Submariner is more durable if you are a saturation diver.
All very good points, I can just say that I have dropped and hard hit my Rolex Submariner on rocks, dirt and trees many many times. I can't believe that ceramic bezel still (to this day) shows no signs of its harsh treatment. Yes the Explorer II has handle similar punishment, but it has left deep scratches and dents, which I love, but most people don't. That is why I graded how I did. My Rolex Explorer II looks beat up and used (again I love that), My Submariner almost looks brand new, still.
Thank you for the thoughtful comment, Cheers
@@cheynewalls thanks for the reply, Cheyne, and wow, your sub has taken a beating! Glad it still looks like new. I own a pre-ceramic sub and it is incredibly durable, although the aluminum bezel does show some patina (which I don't mind). On a side note: as unbelievable as this sounds, shortly after posting my earlier comment, my AD called me and I am now the proud owner of a white-dial Explorer 2. How crazy is that!
@@interianesq Hey Congrats, great news, you will love it! I guess watching my video on my Explorer II brought you good luck :). Cheers
@@cheynewalls thanks! And yes, you must be the watch fairy. Please make a video on a daytona or pepsi :)
I'll choose Exp II every time. Only Rolex I'd take over it is my Milgauss 116400GV
Then Explorer II is a great watch. Wish I got a Milguass before they got discontinued.
Is the Polar more rare because it is less popular now?
The Polar dial Explorer II is more popular now than its ever been. According to comments on this channel people are waiting 8 to 16 months on a waiting list. Also Rolex doesn't make as many Polar dials as they do black dials. Cheers
The most iconic watch of all time is the jubilee bracelet fluted bezel Datejust.
The Submariner is invisible to anyone not into watches.
The Datejust on the other hand is recognised around the world by people that have no interest in watches.
Thanks for your input
My only memories of picking up scratches are memories of extreme anger. 😀
LOL, scratches build character.
Great vid. I want a sub now!
Thank you, It is a great watch, loving mine more and more. Cheers
I wish the explorer ii had brushed case sides and a slightly bigger crown.
Yeah the brushed sides would be great, on both watches. Cheers
Explorer II is better tool, Submariner is better for everyday.
I like that, Cheers
in Austria one AD told me 10 years for submariner date, the other AD said not possible at all, ˋwaitlists are full and only for customers with purchase historyˋ…
@@mike15. Wow crazy, thanks for the intel .
@@cheynewalls maybe cause Austria is such a small country hence a small market... weirdly enough, i got my DJ 36 - 126234 in 6 months 😂
@@mike15. that is weird, I have a friend waiting over 6 months for a DJ but got his Submariner in about 2 months.
@@cheynewalls guess demand is really different in each country..
i live in the capital city and wearing a famous rolex model isnt safe in some districts.. im searching for a good daily beater thats not that recognisable as Rolex... or a Rolex model that not very recognisable like the Explorer1 & 2.. but im kinda leaning towards the Omega seamaster diver 300 white dial.. cause of the price /looks/availability /less recognisable.. + my boss has a Submariner anyway, it wont be a good idea to show up as if im the boss (office job) 😂 the other boss has a blue seamaster tho...
my current beater/work watch is Unimatic U1.
any recommendation of which watch ?
The Sub is the real one.
Cheers
Both are decent beater watches.
I think they are the type of watches that can be classified as anything, beater, luxury, sport, dress, and field watch. A luxury time piece that is tough, durable and very accurate, that can be worn in the most inhospitable environment all the way to any high-end luxury event.
The watch is so cool it FIXED ITSELF.
It was pretty cool!
can buy both essentially new and under retail now, RIP the rolex market
If you remember 6 or 7 years ago all most all Rolex watches could be found well below retail, I wouldn't say RIP, it was just a crazy market flux. Now we are in a more stable market. Still amazing the Rolex market, what other products can you use for a year or two and then sell that product for nearly what you paid new, not many. Either way not going to sell my beloved Rolex watches, planning on handing them down to the next generation.
BS. You are not buying a sub date anywhere under retail right now.
@@whereRbearsTeeth sure can, quite available, crazy people surprised by this considering it is the most manufactured watch in the world
keep it goin
I'm doing my best to convince my staff to keep the channel going. Like I said, I enjoy doing these videos, but it is a lot of "extra" work and we aren't see the financial up tick we were hoping for to warrant the extra time, money and effort we put to this channel. We'll do our best! Cheers
Great video. Sub all day.
Cheers
Rolex is not a tool watch.
You are paying for the name, not the watch.
What Rolex watches do you or have you owned? What experience makes you think that? I can say from 20 years of experience using watches in the field that the Rolex Explorer II & Submariner are the best tool watches I have come across. I have owned many watches, including G-shocks, Omegas, Breitling, Panerai and Longines. All great watches, but none are as good of tool watches as the two Rolexs I now own. Cheers
Rolex probably makes about the best tool watch money can buy.
oh and i'm a product of kalifornistan public schools too 😉 no longer there as i joined the military and retired in another state.
Right behind you, well at least moving to another state.
🙌👊🤙@@cheynewalls
wow beautiful ❤❤
Thank you! Cheers!
Tool watch? Really? Who actually uses ANY Rolex as a tool watch?
Well I do. Its the only watch I have found that can withstand all the harsh environments I go to photograph and is well designed for constant traveling. I have tried G-shocks and watches with batteries, but they always die on my when I'm out snow camping. Other mechanical watches aren't as accurate as I would like, but with Rolex +2/-2 seconds a day its perfect. A Rolex is very durable, relabel and accurate, both in short term and long term. It is the best ever tool watch.
no one
@@jcnole77 but they are still sooo nice, aren’t they? lol. I have a case FILLED with tool watches 😆
The sub is not the right choice, unless you are a diver!! Save yourself a ton and get yourself a Hamilton, best field watches.
Which Hamilton watch? I had one of there Khaki Aviation and it keep the worst time. So bad I just got ride of it. I like the design of most their watches. Do they have any certified movements? After about two decades of using watches in the field, I have learned if a watch or it's moment isn't COSC, METAS or ISO 6425 certified it usually doesn't last long. Cheers
@@cheynewalls the new Khaki field Expedition just released 2 days ago is the real deal! Go check it 👌
😂
@@cheynewalls not true. Have you ever tried a seiko? I have numerous seikos. A few of which are from the 70s and runs well despite it never been certified.
@@joonkt3483 Sorry, what is not true? Yes I have had a few Seiko watch. Good little watches. I had the problem that after wearing them a few years in the filed they started losing a lot of accuracy.
Ffs I bought my first omega at Costco. Wait was about a minute at the window you get the expensive stuff at. My first Rolex was 2 year old sub and price was 40% off of the new one, which the store had several.
Yeah 6 or 7 years ago that was the norm. Now There are waiting lists.