Rolex Explorer II vs Rolex Submariner Date (Part 2)

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @DS-fz9tx
    @DS-fz9tx Год назад +23

    Here is your tie-breaker. Your Explorer II can be used as a compass during daylight hours. If the GMT hand corresponds to your local time zone, point the hour hand towards the sun, and the GMT hand will point north if you are in the northern hemisphere. If you are in the southern hemisphere, the GMT hand will point south.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +2

      Very good point, I should have mentioned that. Thanks, Cheers

    • @hsalajr
      @hsalajr Год назад +1

      @@cheynewalls you should have. If you had known 🤔. Or did you? I didn’t I’m still figuring out what he’s saying 🤪

    • @robquiz5150
      @robquiz5150 Год назад

      ​​@@hsalajrHe knows more than you I'm sure lol

    • @BFit25
      @BFit25 11 месяцев назад +1

      So can your diving bezel…

  • @BLR653
    @BLR653 Год назад +7

    I own both as well. My Explorer 2 is the older 16570 and wears much smaller than the new 42mm model. It flys so far below the radar I don’t think I’ve had a single comment on it in 13 years of daily wear. The Sub on the other hand gets a lot of comments. It’s the definitive Rolex. The Sub is more like jewelry - you hit that nail on the head. I like them both for different reasons but if I could only have one it would be my Explorer 1!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      I agree, love my Submariner, but there is something so special about the Explorer II. Cheers

    • @nortonrob_tx
      @nortonrob_tx Год назад

      I've had a 16570 for a couple years now and you're right, very rare someone picks up on it. I love that about it. I've been looking for another daily watch and landed on the sub. How do they battle for wrist time for you?

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      @@nortonrob_tx It is a tough one. I pretty much now just switch off every month. I've been wearing the Submariner all of Oct, so going to wear the Explorer II for Nov. Cheers

    • @BLR653
      @BLR653 Год назад

      @@nortonrob_tx I wear the Sub in the summer and Exp 2 in the winter. I actually put the Exp 2 on a Rubber B strap which made it very sporty and comfortable. I wear my Exp 1 - 36mm to work daily - that's my daily driver!

  • @mkyhou1160
    @mkyhou1160 6 месяцев назад +4

    Fun vid - thanks. I just got the black dial Explorer 2, I think it’s a great choice if you are a one watch guy as it’s a little more dressy than the polar. Not as dressy as a sub, but subs are everywhere. I like the slightly bigger size of the Explorer 2 as well (I’m 6’2) - my brother who is 5’10 seems to rock his sub perfectly. The black dial has a bit more of a 70s vibe, polar feels more modern I think.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for that. I fully agree, the black dial Rolex Explorer II has a bit more elegance to it. I would wear either one, such good watches. Cheers

  • @Mrjj-ue8gc
    @Mrjj-ue8gc Год назад +4

    Watching your videos convinced me to get the explorer II and love it! Keep making this kind of content please it’s fun to watch and informative in ways other watch channels aren’t!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      Great to hear that, thank you. The Explorer II is an amazing watch, Cheers

  • @Anonymouslyme1
    @Anonymouslyme1 Год назад +5

    I own both these watches myself (40mm ceramic sub) and could have told you it was a draw without all that scoring 😉. Both are brilliant watches with different purposes and functionality. Whilst I find the sub somewhat boring it’s always the watch I chose to go on vacation, that glidelock clasp is superb and the watch is more versatile . I also own a DJ41 which I would recommend for smarter occasions and formal settings.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +2

      A 100%, both great watches, Cheers

  • @SpookyConcepts
    @SpookyConcepts 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hey man, the way you talk about watches is really refreshing. Straight and too the point, without opining for hours and hours. Love seeing another photographer who's also into watches! Cheers

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, watches are just amazing little mechanical machines, I can get over what it takes to design and engineer these precision tools. Cheers

  • @KLucero22
    @KLucero22 Год назад +4

    Great video. I’ve been following your series of videos and just wanted to thank you for creating this content. Very few reviewers actually put these two watches through their paces the way you do. It is refreshing and informative to see

  • @user-mp5ww2bt7q
    @user-mp5ww2bt7q Год назад +4

    Keep up the good work! I can’t get enough of you sharing your Rolex watches with us! 👍🏽

  • @adamg393
    @adamg393 Год назад +3

    Both great watches, the Sub is one of the best models thar Rolex does, I've just brought the new Sub and it fits all occasions

  • @torontowatches9709
    @torontowatches9709 Год назад +2

    Love the Explorer 2, I actually got rid of my Sub 41 and purchased the Polar 42, did not like the attention the Sub received especially as my daily wearer. Personally, the Sub doesn’t look great with a suit like the Datejust due to the case style for black tie events. Great video

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Thank you. Yeah the Explorer II is a great watch. You are right, the Submariner or Explorer II aren't the best dress watches, but I think they can pass. When I travel, I just like to take one watch, hate leaving a watch in the car or hotel room. So I make due with the Submariner or Explorer II when I have to travel for both a black tie event as well as want to get out hiking or exploring the area. Cheers

  • @bloodymarvelous4790
    @bloodymarvelous4790 5 месяцев назад +2

    Maximum depth reached by a SCUBA diver is about 330 meters. That's a world record. Recreational SCUBA divers have a maximum depth of 18 meters for Open Water, 30 meters for Advanced, and 40 meters for Deep certified divers. Technical divers may go down to 80 or 90 meters, but exceeding 100 meters is rare. Your gas consumption is insanely high at that depth, so you need to carry a lot of cylinders (with special mixes) in order to dive that deep.
    The depth rating for Rolex watches is mostly down to the case's resistance to buckling. Not so much the gaskets.
    All Rolex watches use the same gaskets (with the exception of twin and triplock crowns).
    The Submariner was tested to 1000 meters, and the seals held up perfectly. Only the case back buckled and destroyed the movement.
    All Rolex watches are tested to 125% of their depth rating and need to remain watertight and fully operational in order to pass. I'm sure they can handle a lot more than 125%. You do need to get the watch checked for water resistance regularly (say once every year or two years) to guarantee it is still watertight. Rubber seals get compressed, dry out, and deteriorate.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much for this information. I dive a lot off the Channel Islands with friends and my Rolex Submariner, but I'm only going down about 10 to 15 meters in the kelp forests. Cheers

  • @frankv7068
    @frankv7068 Год назад +3

    42mm is the smallest I go, I’m big and tall so my Sub is my two Sea Dwellers 43mm, I just don’t like the orange hand on the Explorer II for some reason.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Personal taste, I personally love the orange the GMT hand.

  • @atc_ed600
    @atc_ed600 Год назад +4

    You probably got asked this before but can you share what is that cool brown leather/canvas strap that you have on the Explorer II? Thanks!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Made by Wotancraft, have to customize to fit a Rolex Explorer II, direction on their website. Cheers

    • @atc_ed600
      @atc_ed600 Год назад

      @@cheynewalls Thank you Cheyne!

  • @timemycollection
    @timemycollection Год назад +1

    You gave the Sub a 10 for a bezel for when diving. The gmt hand when travelling is needed. So i think it should be a 9, because you could hack it and reset to local time, but the gmt function means you don’t have to.
    I appeal for the Explorer 2
    Great vid 🙌🏾

  • @philo2197
    @philo2197 Год назад +2

    Both watches are technically tool watches and both as durable as they come but I’d say Explorer II is a bit more sporty. Doesn’t have the bling from the bezel, hands and hour markers like the sub, plus it has the 24hr hand.

  • @Bob-ut
    @Bob-ut Год назад +3

    Enjoying the series and your opinions on the wearing experiences

  • @mgguzmanb
    @mgguzmanb Год назад +1

    Thank you for your great reviews on the Explorer 2. I just bought it myself and I have a question. I like to use straps on my watches but when I installed leather straps on the Explorer 2 the strap gets scratched by the case due to (1) proximity of the lung holes to the case and (2) very sharp edges of the case at the lung space.
    Do you have this problem? Is there a remedy? Perhaps it is possible to smoothen the sharp edges by a watchmaker without affecting the use of the bracelet later on? Any advice would me most welcome.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      Thank you, Yes I have the same problem, but it doesn't bother me to scratch the back of the watch when I'm changing out straps. However if you do want to avoid scratches just put a bit of painters tape (that blue tape) on and around where you sit the strap. Use a razor blade to cut carefully away from the lug space, or before putting the tape on the watch, cut out perfect pieces to fit on the lugs. This works great for me when I'm changing out straps on other peoples watches. Cheers

    • @mgguzmanb
      @mgguzmanb Год назад

      Thank you for the response. I actually meant something different- not about the scratches i could make with the spring bar tool when installing the strap.
      The problem is that after installing the leather strap - because it is very close to the case and the case edges are super sharp - when using the leather strap it gets damaged very rapidly by the friction with the watch. It is an Explorer specific issue that it seems other also have. It happens with many straps (not all, but most) and only with this watch.
      I just have not figure out a way to prevent it besides putting tape at the lugs what is not the most stylist approach.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      @@mgguzmanb Oh Sorry, Yes I have that same problem, but after the after the initial little damage, it seems to be fine, once it clears away the area that hits the sharp edges.

  • @grahamwatts368
    @grahamwatts368 8 месяцев назад +1

    Great, highly informative video, thank you. Please could you share a link to the site where you purchased the strap on the Explorer?

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, It is a custom strap I got when I was in Taiwan. Need to go wotancraft website, there you will find directions on to customize for your watch. Please let them know you saw the strap in my video. Cheers

  • @granthaley867
    @granthaley867 Год назад +1

    These 2 are my dream two watch combination. Both awesome looking watches!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      They are great watches, love them. Cheers

  • @radidoc4832
    @radidoc4832 10 месяцев назад +1

    Cheyene, I think the diving bezel is crucial if you are near Laguna Beach. No, not for diving but saving you from parking tickets. That's the main use for the modern diver, to remind you about the time left in the parking meter. 😂 That is, until they figure out how to allow your phone app to add money like Canada (I doubt city of Laguna Beach do that and lose a chunk of city revenue).

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  10 месяцев назад +1

      LOL, I have, I've used my bezel to time my parking meter in Laguna, haha. Cheers

  • @jshin5991
    @jshin5991 2 месяца назад +1

    Enjoyed your video. Thank you 😊

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  2 месяца назад

      @@jshin5991 thank you, Cheers

  • @RebirthBeyond
    @RebirthBeyond Год назад +1

    Excellent review and thanks for sharing. This was highly detailed and I loved the b-roll of you wearing the watch in day to day life.

  • @quickerthandrawing2822
    @quickerthandrawing2822 Год назад +1

    the only thing that gives the exp ii a slight edge is the fact that you can use it as a compass

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Yeah, I forgot to mention that. Cheers

  • @gebbesen
    @gebbesen Год назад +1

    Great thoughts - thanks 🙌🏻🙌🏻 Really funny it was a tie😅😂

  • @usamakhanniazi1795
    @usamakhanniazi1795 Год назад +1

    Great video again 👏👏👏

  • @K5ingh007
    @K5ingh007 Год назад

    In terms of tool. Explorer 2 was designed for splunking so needed a 24hr hand. So it’s not just a gmt. It’s a required tool. So I think the explorer wins yay 🙌🏽

  • @idonjohnson6999
    @idonjohnson6999 10 дней назад

    Go with the black EXII and you have a great formal watch.

  • @marcocassetta1152
    @marcocassetta1152 Год назад

    I think it would be fair to compare two watched with the same color of the dial. The explorerII being white changes a lot the perception of the watch. A black dial would have been closer to the submariner

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      In a perfect world, yeah, but I liked the polar dial over the black dial for the Explorer II. Both the black & white dial have there advantages and disadvantages. Cheers

  • @ericbird1760
    @ericbird1760 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great analysis.

  • @elmonteslim3711
    @elmonteslim3711 9 месяцев назад

    I own a 42mm Polar Explorer II and a white dial Daytona. The Explorer II is my go to watch because my aging eyes cant read the Daytona without glasses. You may laugh but as I have both you should listen to my opinion.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  9 месяцев назад

      Yes the Rolex Explorer II is very legible, very helpful when I'm out in late nigh in bad weather.

  • @ricflair8863
    @ricflair8863 Год назад

    “Sticky from I hope the saltwater”….that was funny right there. Makes me wonder what else you did with the Polar on???

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      It was from something in the salt water, I was diving on a kelp forest, I'm sure coming in contact with the kelp was what made it sticky. Cheers

  • @emexokezie7796
    @emexokezie7796 6 месяцев назад

    Errrr, no SIR! a rather unjust comparison from especially the same maker: The SUBMARINER is purpose built as you know, for reasoned deep dives...while the explorer II is definitively designed for land roving.....hence the 24 hour register. The comparison could have been between the immediate previous maxi0case SUB and this one...then the defined differences can be more conclusive. IF Rolex want the Explorer to go 300m, they could, but then it becomes more useful than the SUB.....consequently affect desirability....conversely, if Rolex wanted, they could easily stick the sky-dweller 24 hr readout on the SUB....then that too would make obsolete the demand for the Exp II, in exactly the same way Apple do not do imac with touch screens or no one will find the ipad necessary! I love your content, my first day of watching....and it is great because it extracts my passion for the said watches! And oh, this was written even before I saw the scores....bavo to me...LOL.....The exp II is a GMT II equivalent with a fixed bezel....that is travel ultimate!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  6 месяцев назад +1

      It was just a fun exercise, I mostly did because I had gotten hundreds of comments asking me what watch I would get, the Rolex Explorer II or Submariner. Yes, they are designed for two different things, but there is A LOT of overlap for people and which watch should they buy. I had that same dilemma when I was looking to get my fist tool watch. So think of this video as more which watch would suit you better, not a head to head watch match up. As you saw with the final scorning.

  • @Bren64387
    @Bren64387 Год назад

    Great video (as always)! Curious to know your opinion on the Explorer Two Tone?

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Thank you, Not the biggest fan of precious metals on a tool watch, but I love the look of the two tone Explorer. I would however only use it for formal events and/or around town. Cheers

  • @PapriceP
    @PapriceP Год назад

    The Sub has a more adjustable clasp, triplock crown, more water resistance. It wins to me.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      Yeah, It is an impressive watch.

  • @JBlakeS23
    @JBlakeS23 9 месяцев назад

    Sub is outclassed here. Would like to see the ex 2 vs the SD43

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  9 месяцев назад +1

      All great watches, will have the Rolex Explorer II vs the Sea-Dweller in the future.

    • @EwenMacGillivray
      @EwenMacGillivray 3 месяца назад +1

      @@cheynewallsI’m ready to pull the trigger but torn between the EX2 and Seadweller43!

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  3 месяца назад +1

      @@EwenMacGillivray both great watches. Depending on what you’re going to use the watch for. A lot of water activity I would go with SD43. More hiking and wilderness I would go for the Rolex Explorer II. Cheers

    • @EwenMacGillivray
      @EwenMacGillivray 3 месяца назад

      @@cheynewalls thanks for the reply! Outdoors for work and play all the time but not to much in the water! I’m not sure if the EX2 looks a bit more slab like just because it’s thin where the SD43 pulls it off better with its thickness! Just under 7” wrists so both will be on my limit! Love your content 👍🏻

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  3 месяца назад

      @@EwenMacGillivray Cheers

  • @marcod.r.3299
    @marcod.r.3299 11 месяцев назад

    always strange for me to hear that you get questions from strangers about your watch (submariner).....it probably depends on the region you live, ´cause I (in Europe) never ever got approached by a stranger about my watch...not even once.....thus also never when I wear my Sub....

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  11 месяцев назад

      With all the art events I do I'm talking with and meeting new people all the time, that with this channel I think leads to comments on my watches. Cheers

  • @louisacaro1065
    @louisacaro1065 Год назад

    I like both I don’t think 1mm make a big difference

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      Yeah, not a big difference. Cheers

  • @mattlatorra264
    @mattlatorra264 Год назад +1

    6:51 You can with Oris and the calibre 473 or Grand Seiko with the 9R Spring Drive movement. Should have done your research 😂.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      I do my best, but spending the vast majority of my time traveling and being in very remote areas, I might miss a few things. I'm not a watch expert, just a guy who enjoys watches and makes his living exploring.

  • @Eliehbk
    @Eliehbk 10 месяцев назад

    The Submariner surely looks more proportional on your wrist.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah, the Polar dial gives the Explorer II a bigger look on the wrist. Both fit comfortably and are very similar in sizing (Explorer II - 42mm 50mm lug to lug) (Submariner - 41mm 48mm lug to lug).

    • @Eliehbk
      @Eliehbk 10 месяцев назад

      @@cheynewalls White dial always gives it a bigger look, however, the lug to lug, when you factor in the bracelet on the Explorer II is a bit over 53mm. I have the Explorer II and the Sub 114060 which wears even bigger than your Sub, and the Explorer wears much larger on my 6.6 inch wrist. Anyway, your videos are amazing. I am an avid photographer and watch lover, so great fit...

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  10 месяцев назад

      @@Eliehbk Thank you, see you out on the trails. Cheers

  • @BufanMuayThai
    @BufanMuayThai 10 месяцев назад

    Well… one is still a toolwatch, the other is The car-salesman watch😁

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  10 месяцев назад

      I don't know, one is a little flashy, but still a great tool watch.

  • @lemnisgate8809
    @lemnisgate8809 11 месяцев назад

    None of those aspects matter. It’s all about comfort style and cool factor for anyone being honest and the iconic sub is the clear winner hands down.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  11 месяцев назад +1

      Its all about personal options, I can honestly say the accuracy and toughness of a mechanical watch is the most important to me. Cheers

  • @giusepperocchi2979
    @giusepperocchi2979 Год назад

    Hats off for making 300 videos with just three watches !

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад +1

      Like I have mentioned in my videos, these are all my personal watches that I bought. We don't have any watch company sponsorships. If you are tired of these 3 watches, check-in around Feb of next year, I'll have added either an AP Royal Oak, VC Overseas or a Rolex GMT Master II to my collection. Cheers

  • @jonrudd8556
    @jonrudd8556 5 месяцев назад

    The fact that you would put water resistance (which both watches have although at different depths)above a GMT function, when the vast majority of people will not need as much water resistance as a Submariner provides, proves to me you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Most people, at some point in their lives, will be out of the time zone they live in, but probably never 200 meters under water.
    Never mind how rare a true GMT function is compared to water resistance.
    Your scoring is totally ridiculous.
    I will not be watching any more of four videos for watch advice.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  5 месяцев назад

      Well I’m sure as you know, water resistant is a lot different than just a depth rating. Jumping into a pool puts about a rating of a 100 meter depth pressure onto a watch. Like I showed in the chart on this video. Therefore the Rolex Submariner is completely safe for 99% of water activity. I love my GMT function, but everyone today has a cell phone to help with a different time zone. That is why I rated the water resistance a bit higher.

  • @nytnapoli8327
    @nytnapoli8327 Год назад +2

    Oh no wasted your time..hilarious

  • @RocketDog73
    @RocketDog73 Год назад

    When I surf my watch goes under my wetsuit.

    • @cheynewalls
      @cheynewalls  Год назад

      It doesn't cut up your wetsuit wearing it under?

    • @RocketDog73
      @RocketDog73 Год назад

      No not at all. It also gives me peace of mind on its security as it is less likely to be ripped off in a beach break wipeout or on a spring bar failure.