Why the Rolex Explorer 2 is Unpopular

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @TradeMarcmultimedia
    @TradeMarcmultimedia Год назад +176

    Just bought this yesterday as my first Rolex.. I had the black bay pro and felt I needed a larger dial/slimmer case.. absolutely in love with it.. what a legendary timepiece! 🚀

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +17

      WHAAAT NOOO WAY!! Biggest congrats EVER!!! Freaking AWESOME choice!!! 💕💕🎉🎉🎉 wear it in good health and make lots of memories with it! 💕👏🏻

    • @scott7841
      @scott7841 Год назад +5

      Congratulations on your new watch! You just can't go wrong with the Explorer II.

    • @ricardocampos3383
      @ricardocampos3383 Год назад +3

      nice! i love the explorer 2 in the polar white dial

    • @tricky92x
      @tricky92x Год назад

      What size is your wrist? I have 6.5 relatively flat wrists, and the Black Bay Pro fits like a glove. I'm worried that the lug to lug length on the Explorer II is too much.

    • @TradeMarcmultimedia
      @TradeMarcmultimedia Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches thank you so much. It feels weirdly like a natural thing because of owning the Tudor black bay, but it’s still exciting for sure! Glad you appreciate the black dial.. like the GMT hand, it’s historically correct.. but it just looks cooler too! Thanks again

  • @Barbecuejag
    @Barbecuejag Год назад +79

    Just picked one up in Las Vegas. White Dial. Stopped in the Rolex boutique in Caesars. With no purchase history. Super nice saleswoman said she would put me on list. On a lark, I said yes. She texted me 3 hours later and said a customer reneged on picking one up and if I wanted it to stip back in. I'm so happy to say I went back, picked it right up, and I'm loving it. 😊

    • @watchpapi
      @watchpapi Год назад +5

      Congratulations!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽

    • @lars-erikullsgard3320
      @lars-erikullsgard3320 9 месяцев назад +22

      Wow you were allowed to spend money with them- What a privilege

    • @hittingreens5646
      @hittingreens5646 7 месяцев назад +20

      she lied, there was no other customer

    • @Barbecuejag
      @Barbecuejag 7 месяцев назад +4

      @@hittingreens5646 Maybe, maybe not. I got what I wanted so I am happy. Its an awesome GADA.

    • @alyw.7491
      @alyw.7491 4 месяца назад +4

      Trust me. You were played!

  • @AnonYmous-hu6jd
    @AnonYmous-hu6jd 11 месяцев назад +17

    My first Rolex. Just got the call yesterday. I waited 10 years for this moment to actually be able to buy a Rolex, and I’m so glad it was this one. I am absolutely in love with this watch. Thank you for covering such a complex, simple, yet elegant watch that I plan to cherish for the rest of my days. It’s great to know someone reveres this watch as much as I do.
    Bravo and thanks again. Happy Holidays.

    • @marcr633
      @marcr633 8 месяцев назад

      Same here bro, you from crypto? :D

    • @BlockChainzz
      @BlockChainzz 6 месяцев назад +3

      10 years on a wait list???

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 3 месяца назад

      @@BlockChainzz he said 10 years from this moment haha, the Explorer II is not that crazy like a Daytona or GMT Pepsi

    • @joonkt3483
      @joonkt3483 2 месяца назад

      10 years??? Omg. You really have a ton of patience.

  • @rpc061963
    @rpc061963 Год назад +9

    Still have my first Rolex, Explorer II 16570 black, a gift from my future wife in '97. Gave her an Explorer I 36 which she adores up to now. Been married 25 years. Love the watch and the memories.

  • @LeeW534
    @LeeW534 Год назад +18

    Swapped in my submariner for a explorer 2. I have no regrets. Having the second time zone and a model that isn’t common are two huge pluses.

    • @southbrit
      @southbrit 9 месяцев назад

      Wow brave move, bravo, and one I would love to do.

    • @AK-jl5xt
      @AK-jl5xt 11 дней назад

      Top man- I did too!! Happy days

  • @SethCohen1
    @SethCohen1 Год назад +32

    I love this watch. The GMT function is really useful. Also the 226570 is the 50th Anniversary, which makes it more special. If you know, you know.

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 Год назад +7

      If we're talking about the black dial, then I 'd say the discontinued 216570 is more special. The "phantom" hands found in the 216570 is a neat throwback to the very first Explorer II, the ref 1655.

    • @Anonymouslyme1
      @Anonymouslyme1 Год назад +2

      @@lettuce1305I agree, plus the 216570 has a movement that is unique to the Explorer 2. I think in time it will be highly collectible.

    • @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon
      @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon Месяц назад

      I got one of the very last 2021 production year, ref 216570 models, just before it was discontinued. Exactly 50 years after the 1655 Freccione was first introduced. Ref 216570 still has the iconic shadow hands and also a matte black dial, just like the original 1655. The latest model now sports a much dressier glossy black dial and it also lost its iconic shadow hands. So one could say that the now discontinued ref 216570 is the closest version to the original Steve McQueen (ref 1655).

  • @WillyLai-f7t
    @WillyLai-f7t Год назад +134

    It's so unpopular I still can't buy one from my AD after 6 months of waiting.

    • @LeftyFox2
      @LeftyFox2 6 месяцев назад +2

      I feel this lol

    • @Hades-in5jy
      @Hades-in5jy 5 месяцев назад +12

      going on 4 years, the scam continues.

    • @BubbalooXRS
      @BubbalooXRS 5 месяцев назад

      Have you tried giving your wife to the AD?

    • @alyw.7491
      @alyw.7491 4 месяца назад +6

      Exactly. It's all a scam! Why do you want to buy a watch from a company that's jerking you around like that!

    • @Hades-in5jy
      @Hades-in5jy 4 месяца назад

      @@alyw.7491 It's not the company it's the AD's. They are all in on the problem. I go into Mayors and they have all the watches I want but only for display. Now they're used watches are ready for sale and marked up 30%.

  • @edwardvong6481
    @edwardvong6481 Год назад +12

    The Explorer II is my favorite Rolex. First time I saw it was when I first got into watches and I walked into my Doctors office and I saw him with it on. Loved it right away.

    • @David-nx2vm
      @David-nx2vm Год назад +2

      Perhaps your doctor is the person who posted the above comment? Wouldn’t that be cool?

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +2

      Ahhh I absolutely love this!

  • @m.e.p.r
    @m.e.p.r Год назад +81

    I'm not sure the EX II is under-rated or over-rated. I think it's appropriately rated. The fact that it trades on or just under retail, I mean who cares 😅 just a sign of the current climate. And....the black dial variant for me all day long. Helps to make the watch appear slightly smaller than it is I think.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +8

      You know! I really can’t disagree with any of this! 💕👏🏻

    • @WxAxNxDxExRxExR
      @WxAxNxDxExRxExR Год назад +5

      The new ones (42mm) trade a grand plus above the RRP, so funnily enough, the odd model out is doing better (and closer to say, Submariners) than the original, smaller ones which should fit more people...

    • @brianmccarthy7768
      @brianmccarthy7768 Год назад +3

      Where is it trading on or under retail? If you mean what a dealer will pay a flipper who was offered one by their AD and wants rid ASAP, then yes, they pay retail. If you mean how much the dealer sells it on for, then no, there is a premium (more fir polar dial). Not as high a premium as for e.g. Sub or GMT. The Explorer 2 is underrated or the Sub is overrated, take your pick.

    • @Ego_Katana
      @Ego_Katana Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches White dial... *chef kiss* it's quirky and not the typical Wolex.

    • @m.e.p.r
      @m.e.p.r Год назад

      @@WxAxNxDxExRxExR I've seen and have been offered the EX II black dial about £200 below retail. The white dial just over retail, but not by much

  • @willbrink
    @willbrink 4 дня назад +2

    See lots of Subs in the wild, never see Explorers out there. That makes me want one more.

  • @RobertCraine-v1i
    @RobertCraine-v1i Год назад +6

    Some time ago I handled a black dial Explorer ll with aged lume. It was one of the most stunning watches I have seen. It oozed sophistication in a way no modern Rolex is able to.

  • @WatchUnwind
    @WatchUnwind Год назад +9

    I actually just picked up one of these a few weeks ago, I am in love with it so far and in my opinion it’s definitely super underrated. I also think it’s funny people say it’s under the radar on wrist when it’s a submariner dial with an extra hand I feel like you can still tell it’s a Rolex from a mile away.

  • @Gilschmidt89
    @Gilschmidt89 Год назад +8

    “Cosplay as sporty people” is the most accurate description I’ve ever heard. 😂 great content!

  • @marck2087
    @marck2087 Год назад +23

    I chose a white dial 40mm version. Last of that line with its most improved movement. It's a more balanced dial and wears beautifully on an average wrist. Additionally, it is
    a white dial watch with a stainless bezel which is uncommon and matches well style wise with lots of clothing choices. We should be honest that among many other things, we enjoy watches for their aesthetics and matching them up with occasions and clothing like jewelry options. I will never ever go spelunking no matter the watch I wear, I'm afraid of caves...

  • @latissimusdomsi
    @latissimusdomsi Год назад +12

    I love my vintage Explorer 2 because of how storied it is. From my navy captain uncle to my manager father to doctor me 😊

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +4

      Oh I love this!!! 💕💕💕 watches are so much more than things to tell the time! I love this!

  • @TheDennisTodd
    @TheDennisTodd 8 дней назад +1

    I just bought my 216570 just days ago. It means a lot to me that others share my compassion for the explorer II. I also prefer the black dial.

  • @mickyd7842
    @mickyd7842 Год назад +3

    I bought a 2021 Sub date and the explorer 2 a couple months apart. I just sold the Sub because I don’t wear it. The Explorer stands out to me. Everyone wants to look like the Sub. The Explorer has its own style. And I have 8 inch wrists. Even the 41 mm Sub looked small
    On me compared to the explorer that looks perfect to me. It’s my daily. Good video Britt. Don’t forget about us big wristers. We get forgot about in the the watch world on the race to make everything 38mm

  • @peterjanich2289
    @peterjanich2289 8 месяцев назад +1

    I own a white dial 2017 E-II which is my every day watch traveling frequently between Europe and the USA. Love that watch.

  • @kraftysk1
    @kraftysk1 Год назад +5

    This is probably the watch I wear most frequently. I inherited it from my partner who had it sitting in a box collecting dust. Early 2000's model. It wears REALLY well. Fairly light and relatively slim for a sports watch. Good overall choice.

  • @addahandle1
    @addahandle1 15 дней назад +1

    As a pilot I use this new (Polar) and previous (Black) Explorer ll models.
    White 42mm dial, Orange hand at GMT for all aviation matters all around the world comes in UTC, readable reliable watches making me happy one daily basis.

    • @impexRQ
      @impexRQ 3 дня назад

      You will be better off with the new Tudor Pelagos FXD GMT

  • @dBsdecibels
    @dBsdecibels Год назад +3

    My favorite, first, and currently only Rolex. My favorite for several of the reasons you described. Primarily, it's the last real tool watch they make; built for a specific purpose, tool first. Most elect for the fancier, more colorful GMT II, but there's something about the simple noble elegance of the last true Rolex tool watch.
    Also, I DO use the day/night aspect of it. I do landscape photography as a serious hobby. Occasionally, I go to Iceland or other Arctic Circle regions at times of the year when the sun is fully above or below the horizon for the full 24 hours. Obviously the sky gives me a clue as to daytime/nighttime, but it's still nice to use it for its intended purpose!

  • @lonewolfemcquade8133
    @lonewolfemcquade8133 Год назад +7

    The 40mm Explorer 2s were perfect 👌 same thing with the pre ceramic Rolex Submariners/GMTs and Sea dwellers. The wearability was perfect and own a Explorer 1 and a Submariner but Anything after the pre ceramics? Rolex can keep. Rolex lost sight of what they used to be all about.Even the older 48h Rolex movement's were indestructible compared to the new Rolex movement's that seem to need services alot more frequently. Every watchmaker I spoke with say the exact same thing. Even the rotors were dead silent on the older Rolex movement's. Now they are too noisy

  • @aslamc9288
    @aslamc9288 Год назад +13

    Back in the time when you could still get a discount on Rolexes, I was offered 30% off an Explorer II white dial (the 42mm version, so it wasn’t that long ago) without even asking for one. I ultimately went a different direction, but I still like them. However, I really think I prefer the older 40mm Polar version because the 42mm model felt like it wore huge for 42mm, and I used to wear watches up to 48mm. I do love the romance of an Explorer II, which feels way more up to exploration than Explorer, since that’s time-only. I shopped extensively for the Polar in 40mm, looking for something with drilled lugs. I was patient-the prices were dropping and dropping; I started to see some in the sub-$4,000 range. And then, out of nowhere, these unwanted Explorer IIs became vintage relics and their prices shot up the way every other Rolex shot up. And now that I have a BB GMT, I don’t really see a place in my collection for another GMT watch (even if this wasn’t meant to be a GMT). Still, the vintage models with the Polar white dial, red GMT hand, and drilled lugs…what a beauty.

    • @howardgregory3888
      @howardgregory3888 Год назад +1

      I like the white face version myself. Like you I have a blue black gmt 11 which I love. Just bought a Tudor Pelagos with blue dial - a bit different as it’s a very bright blue and although Titanium it still feels quite heavy. Enjoy your watches!

  • @lorddenning5056
    @lorddenning5056 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is a British military standard watch. Price William has as well and more importantly the modern version of the Rolex 1655 which is super difficult to find. The distinctive orange hand is extremely eye catching not to mention the functionality when you travel between two continents often with 8 to 12hrs time difference. I love it, it very practical and looks good on suits, usual and almost everything else you wear!

  • @montys8th
    @montys8th Год назад +3

    As someone with an 8.5" wrist I would absolutely love to wear a larger Explorer II. I like it's understated functionality and that it isn't flashy. I like to wear my watches daily regardless of what I'm doing and to me it looks like an Explorer II would keep up with the demands of that. It doesn't hurt that they are a bit cheaper too. I like the black dial to be honest, just love a high visibility high contrast dial.

  • @MyBucketOfScapulas
    @MyBucketOfScapulas Год назад +2

    Amazing timing, I just picked up my black dial 226570 about 2 weeks ago. Absolutely love it, by far my favorite in the current Rolex lineup.

  • @007Chancellor
    @007Chancellor Год назад +3

    I owned and wore the ORIGINAL Explorer II, the 1655, from the late 70s through most of the 80s. When the collectors drove the price into the stratosphere, I sold it. I now own a Steinhart Ocean GMT OLKO Special Edition and LOVE it. When I look at my wrist, it's the 70s again. And with the money from the sale of the 1655, I've taken vacations to Rome and Jamaica and so forth. I just think the prices of Rolex watches have gotten stupid. The Steinharts are amazing watches.

  • @jasonwescott3105
    @jasonwescott3105 Год назад +2

    I own one. I've had several Rolex watches over the years but this one is by far my favorite. I have the same floating hands black dial version as your husband.

  • @derekobeirne4137
    @derekobeirne4137 Год назад +3

    This and the Black Bay Pro are two of my favourites

  • @hod6ie856
    @hod6ie856 Год назад +4

    Excellent video Britt👌I’ve owned the 226570 black for almost a year and I absolutely love it! Prior to this watch, in terms of Rolex, I’d had the ceramic No Date Sub in both 40mm and 41mm, 2 16570’s, and a couple of 36mm Explorers, but the orange hand of the black modern II always pulled me. I’d always discounted the 216570 back in the day as I assumed it’d be too big for my 6.75 wrist, but it just isn’t, I actually think if I’d just got the 216570 over the 114060 I originally purchased then I’d still own it. The black is definitely the way to go, that orange just pops so much better. This watch works so well on straps too and especially on an orange Rubber B🍊- It’s a great watch and I have zero regrets over the purchase, 100% my fav modern Rolex reference.

  • @pammikewilliams3026
    @pammikewilliams3026 Год назад +10

    The Explorer and Explorer 2 in all of the variants will forever epitomized Rolex in my mind. They are the ultimate tool watches, not quite minimalistic but close. They perform the job without much bling. Great video, Britt.

  • @gav_bray
    @gav_bray Год назад +4

    Honestly, I never knew (or even thought about the use of) about the day and night use of the 24 hour hand. I've never needed to keep track of a second time zone which has made me steer away from GMT watches. Now I actually have a use of that extra hand. Thanks Britt ❤️💜

  • @evilmad
    @evilmad Год назад +51

    I love mine almost as much as Adrian Barker loves his 😂

  • @tseringnaktsang6761
    @tseringnaktsang6761 Год назад +1

    It was my first Rolex too. Bought it because I wanted a sub with date and at that time the dealer didn’t have. So I bought explorer with black dial. It’s my go to watch when I just have to wear one without thinking 🤔 love it.

  • @David-nx2vm
    @David-nx2vm Год назад +6

    The 42mm case also lays like a plank. If you have a 7” wrist or larger it’s no problem. Otherwise the lugs are floating out there like Wile E Coyote right before gravity kicks in. I like the Explorer II a lot and if I were going to buy a second Rolex, that would be it, in a black dial to further fly under the radar.

    • @mkyhou1160
      @mkyhou1160 Год назад +2

      Yeah it looks perfect my just over 7 wrist. It’s good Rolex offer this size for guys with bigger wrists, the GMTs are there for those who want something smaller.

    • @Bisley1
      @Bisley1 Год назад

      Get the old 40mm, i love mine (black) so much, that I’m consideri g a second 16750 polar dial.

  • @alvinmick218
    @alvinmick218 Год назад +2

    Yes I have to agree with you. The explorer 2 is the last real tool watch in their catalog. The white dial version is a little more flashy so I’d definitely go with the black dial version as my pick.

  • @cameronbuckner254
    @cameronbuckner254 Год назад +5

    Another fantastic video Britt! You ha e truly become one of those watch RUclipsr I subscribe to, whose videos I look forward to and whose opinion and thoughts I think are wonderfully constructed and I value! This watch though....this watch is my grail watch. I'm not a Rolex fan, never really have been but once I saw the Explorer 2 with a polar dial out in the wild and I've wanted it ever since! I think it's one of those perfect do it all watches you can go adventuring with, or take out on date night or to church! I truly truly love it! Great video as always!

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +2

      Whaaat! OK. FIRST OF ALL! Thank you soooo so much! My head isn’t going to be able to fit through the door! 🤣 I’m so glad you’re enjoying my weird little channel! 💕 I have been trying to make each video a little better than the last!
      Now! The Explorer 2 is a very worthwhile grail! 😍😍 the polar dial just has such a great summer time feel to it, it looks good with everything, I love the orange against the white dial! 😍 just *chef kiss*

  • @chrisdelgado7250
    @chrisdelgado7250 Год назад +1

    As someone who owns a Daytona I got the explorer 2 polar from an AD in 18. The Daytona wears small on me and most larger wrists and the 42 on the Explorer 2 wears really well. It’s also distinctive vs. the Sub or GMT.

  • @brads1545
    @brads1545 Год назад +8

    Completely agree with the sizing being a primary reason the Exp. 2 is “underrated.” In a vaccum, the Explorer 2 is great. But for most people, the GMT line wears much better. The subs wear better, too. That’s subjective, but I think the objective sales data bears that out.

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 Год назад +1

      I completely agree, if the Exp II comes in 40mm it would be a huge seller, however that may take away some of the sales for the GMT even though they're still different.

  • @webvideofan
    @webvideofan Год назад +1

    That version of the Explorer II is my favorite. I love how the orange hand pops on the black dial. I also like the size of the hands and hour markers. Nice video. 👍🏻

  • @tonyr669
    @tonyr669 Год назад +4

    I love the Explorer II especially with the white dial and it is my favorite Rolex after the obvious choice of the Daytona.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +1

      Gaaaah! It’s sooo good! You know, I’m wearing my Daytona right now! I haven’t worn it in forever (the husband has been wearing it for the last year or so!) and I forgot how magical it is. I need the white dial now 😈😈😈

  • @ybk6858
    @ybk6858 Год назад +1

    Are you going to talk about the new Tissot prx 35mm Powermatic that just got released? 😊
    Maybe a hands on review?
    As a fellow member of the small wrist committee Id love to hear your opinion on it!

  • @ivanharlokin
    @ivanharlokin Год назад +17

    For me, it's just too big. If it were available in a 38mm, it would be amazing....as it is...not so much.
    Thanks for the video Britt.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +6

      RIGHT?! I feel exactly the same!!! Who knows! Maybe for watches and wonders 2024 they’ll bring the size back down?! 😱 they’ve been doing a lot of downsizing! But I don’t think that will happen 😅 they’d have to make an entirely new movement!

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 Год назад +2

      yep and that's why I'm on the lookout for the older 5 digit 16570 Explorer II. Tried on the 216570 and 226570, while 42mm might not sound huge, these watches wear large on the wrist.

    • @emc14000
      @emc14000 Год назад +1

      @@lettuce1305 had the 226570 white, they wear big interns of width though. so for 6.5" wrist its just wearable fine.great lume, weight, movement and case finishing. bracelet best in the biz also

  • @koi52970
    @koi52970 Год назад +1

    Just got mine in black dial. I tried on the polar dial. a sub, even a skydweller but didn't like it as much as the black Explorer II .Absolutely love it. It's a keeper

  • @joshuakaplan5726
    @joshuakaplan5726 Год назад +4

    It was underrated maybe 2 years ago. Now it's hyped. The polar is very hyped. The black is slightly underrated but still in demand. I also find that the omega SMP 300M 42mm case and lug width wears better than the explorer with similar dimensions. I think it's the more turned down lyre style lugs that make it a a slightly conforming fit, I feel like the explorer 2 has more lug overhang than the SMP 300M.
    My grail used to be the polar exp2 but i cant afford that 9.5k price so i went with the Black bay pro and absolutely love it. I dont think i settled at all too. As we've said, todays Tudors are rolex of many years ago, being amazing quality proper tool watches!

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      You think?! Idk! I don’t work for Rolex! 😅 but one of my ADs said it was quite low demand! Particularly for a professional model. But maybe it’s just not popular in Bristol! 😅

    • @joshuakaplan5726
      @joshuakaplan5726 Год назад

      I think specifically the black is probably in much lower demand, but the polar is super hot, atleast from what I've seen on social media, youtube,, and talking to ADs.

  • @boombringer4078
    @boombringer4078 Год назад +1

    I want to know why mr gringas wrist is growing, is it calorie intake or something else?........

    • @watchpapi
      @watchpapi Год назад

      😂🤣 something else……. But not what (I think) you’re suggesting 😂😂

  • @Bemjji
    @Bemjji Год назад +4

    I caught myself being a watch snob the other day. I was in Vanderbilt hospital and I saw a doctor with this same black dial explorer II and I thought to myself…Pfft.. lol… why??? Till I realized it was probably just the only steel sports Rolex he could purchase. On the other hand it will probably be a fantastic watch for him.

  • @Crazy_Joe_Davola
    @Crazy_Joe_Davola 9 месяцев назад +1

    My first Rolex was the 16570 with the 3186 movt. I still wear it all the time. (I keep the 24-hr hand set to London.)

  • @Valera_Scotland
    @Valera_Scotland Год назад +5

    Love the look, prefer if they could keep them at 39-40mm and 11mm thick. Too much to ask perhaps

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +1

      I couldn’t agree more! 👏🏻👏🏻 this is exactly how I feel! Who knows?! Maybe they’ll bring this back down to 40mm @ Watches and Wonders 2024?!

  • @drnick40
    @drnick40 3 месяца назад +2

    For any serious Rolex collector the Explorer 2 is an important watch to have. Same as other oddball models like the Sky Dweller, the Air King and the Millgaus. The masses go for the Submariner, the GMT Master, the Daytona and the Dayjust. We the geeks like the quirky ones.

  • @thedriver08
    @thedriver08 Год назад +5

    I think it's safe to say that this is the last true tool watch from Rolex. They don't offer it in precious metal, there're no polished center links and it's far less blingy than many other pieces in the modern Rolex lineup. It would be awesome if they brought the Explorer 2 back in 40mm.

    • @WatchUnwind
      @WatchUnwind Год назад +2

      I just picked one of these up in happy I got this over a gmt master I would have scratched it to pieces

  • @covertguy1575
    @covertguy1575 Год назад +1

    Myself and two of my daughters have Explorer II’s (all black dials) and we have had them for years. With three Explorer’s in the house I can assure you these watches are perfect.

  • @acethis
    @acethis Год назад +6

    My heart still goes out to the Polar 16570. It's a nice pre-owned piece that I have gotten off someone from a watch forum and refurbished by Rolex Service Centre. It's totally toolish and understated at the same time. I have nothing against the Black Dial variant, just that the White Dial flutters my heart much more 😊

    • @munkygrip1977
      @munkygrip1977 Год назад +1

      Agree 100% I was lucky to find a 2009 BNOS 5 digit polar a few years back. It’s the perfect tool watch. Understated, functional and goes with anything.

    • @radidoc4832
      @radidoc4832 Год назад +1

      Yes. I agree that white polar dial is way to go, given that most sports models have black dials, how boring! Why can't they come up with white dialed sub or GMT? I would love to see the black ceramic bezel on a white dial, besides the Daytona!

    • @DeanoTXR53
      @DeanoTXR53 Год назад +1

      The 5 digit cases wear sooooo much better too! Which is part of the whole understated package

  • @Jake-uf4cp
    @Jake-uf4cp 2 месяца назад +2

    I love the black dial explorer II, it's the Rolex I'm going to buy when I buy a Rolex

  • @danielbercovici5202
    @danielbercovici5202 7 месяцев назад +4

    I just got the call for the white dial, should i or shouldn't i 😉

    • @JoeyRozay
      @JoeyRozay Месяц назад

      Did you?

    • @danielbercovici5202
      @danielbercovici5202 Месяц назад +1

      @JoeyRozay I didn't....got the Seanaster 300m instead no regret 😃 white dial ❤️

    • @JoeyRozay
      @JoeyRozay Месяц назад +1

      The omega? Nice choice

    • @danielbercovici5202
      @danielbercovici5202 Месяц назад

      @JoeyRozay no regrets I don't like these Rolex mind games when there's an abundance of available good watches with beautiful dials.

    • @JoeyRozay
      @JoeyRozay Месяц назад

      @danielbercovici5202 I hear you. I ended up getting the polar, but randomly, I met a watch store owner.

  • @wolfbrite8871
    @wolfbrite8871 Год назад +2

    The thing is, the Rolex Explorer II is hailed as one of the most beloved Rolex releases by Rolex enthusiasts. It's widely viewed as the most versatile, one-&-done watch in their entire catalogue. Yes, the Rolex Explorer (1) is considered more versatile because of its smaller size, but all things said and done, hardly any watch gets more positive attention and glowing compliments than the Rolex Exploer II. With its traveller GMT functionality, it's the go-anywhere timepiece, at home on high mountain peaks and in dark subterranean depths.

  • @EQ9962
    @EQ9962 Год назад +4

    I really wanted something i do not see everyday. Submariners are amazing and iconic but are everywhere. I very rarely see the exp 2. I love the exp 2 and specifically asked for the black dial. Just a preference over the white and i think that is what makes this hobby so great. Everyone can wear what speaks to them. The exp 2 gets a lot of compliments and sparks conversation with other watch peeps. It always starts with how rarely if ever people see the watch.

    • @WatchUnwind
      @WatchUnwind Год назад

      Very true in fact the only Rolex I have ever seen out and about on someone’s wrists had been a sub

  • @wannabe_sailor_777smith6
    @wannabe_sailor_777smith6 10 месяцев назад +1

    Britt, I think the E2 needs to be offered in a Oysterflex strap. I know Rolex will need to change the clasp to SS instead of precious metal, but is that really an obstacle for the crown ?

  • @markadams2765
    @markadams2765 Год назад +3

    I had the explorer 2 polar dial (42mm) on my wrist and found it too large as it being a grail watch I was disappointed. Still came out with a Tudor pro though. My wrist size is 7.25 inches.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +2

      Ahhh! The Tudor pro proportions are PERFECT!

    • @markadams2765
      @markadams2765 Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches Was not impressed with Pro online but seeing it in Goldsmiths tried it on fell in love with it.

  • @starsnstripesus1
    @starsnstripesus1 Год назад

    First off Britt, I just want to compliment you on your style and humor in putting together these videos. They stand apart from many of the other very mundane watch videos I see. Secondly, as a Rolex lover, I will never complain about too many Rolex videos on your channel. So, while watching your video, one part particular comment you made stood out to me. When you spoke of watches as "Memory Keepers", resinated with me. I feel that when you've had a watch that has been through life's ups, downs and in betweens, they begin to become something more than the beautifully shined mechanical master pieces they are when you first set your eyes on them at the AD or grey market dealer. These watches actually live your life with you as your "unwavering ally", borrowing that phrase from the Rolex Submariner page. They are indeed memory keepers and I think that is probably one of the big reasons why us watch people love our watches so much. I'm a very different kind of collector than you, since I'm a collector of 1. My dream watch since I was 12 was the Submariner (no date) and I finally got the call in October 2022. I love this watch so much and it will be my everyday watch until the end. Thanks so much for doing these cool videos, and I look forward to seeing you in the next one!

  • @kushing80
    @kushing80 Год назад +11

    Love the content Britt.
    For someone who might already own an Explorer (I), instead of going for an Explorer II, they might try the Grand Seiko SBGN005. GS took a lot of the Explorer II design, finished it well and powered it with a high accuracy quartz. A fraction of the Explorer II price and helps add a little something different to ones collection. But of course, it’s not a Rolex :-). Cheers.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +3

      VERY WELL SAID!!! One of my all time favourite GS watches!!! I neeeeed to get a SBGN005 in to review!! That would be a BANGER!

    • @AnotherDaveInParadise
      @AnotherDaveInParadise Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches The (pricier) GS SBGE283 or 285 are an excellent spring drive alternative. Was tempted to go for the black (283) as a stopgap until my Exp 2 arrives, but went with the BB Pro. If only GS had put the power reserve on the back.

  • @christopherlyddell8741
    @christopherlyddell8741 Год назад +1

    My most recent Rolex is the Explorer 2 white dial. Spends more time on my wrist it sits comfortably, it is the most legible watch I have. The style is unique it is built so well works as a great GMT even with fixed bezel. I love it agree with you on the size but it is a great watch!

  • @salty5402
    @salty5402 Год назад +5

    The flow, transitions, and overall production value were exceptional for this video. Not sure you did anything different, but this one just hit on all cylinders.
    Love the story of your attachment to the watch! Great way you, specifically, differentiate as a content creator.
    On the actual watch, this is IMO perhaps the best Rolex sports model. The black dial, the orange hand, the iconic markers & hands, and a cyclops! Definitely for me this watch far above the more ubiquitous 3/6/9 traditional Explorer.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +1

      Now this comment has completely made my day! 1. SALTY IS IN THE HOUSE!!! 💕👏🏻 2. Thank you sooo so much! I really have been trying to work on my video flow and pacing! I’ve been experimenting with how long I leave different B-rolls up!! And how things transition! I am soo glad it is showing! 💕 I’m still a work in progress. 🙈 but trying to get better with every video!
      And 3. The Explorer 2 is such a unique watch in the Rolex catalogue isn’t it?! Tool watch goodness. Great functionality! It is just *chef kiss*

  • @mehdizerzeri1977
    @mehdizerzeri1977 Год назад +1

    I love the explorer2. I have been wearing my black dial 216570 for almost 10 years daily despite having many other Rolex models (Daytona ceramic black dial in steel, sd43, dssd JC). Lately I added a 226570 in white dial but the black 216570 remains my favorite watch. I find the white dial too empty and orange hand and floating effect is great. Exp2 has all the things I like brushed top case and bezel, fully bushed bracelet (hate polished center link), the date (a must have for me for daily use) and the gmt for tavelling and finally the great size. One last thing it is kind of exclusive because when you wear it you are most likely the only one in a sea of pedestrian sub dj jubilé 😏. I like watches between 42mm and 45mm. Great video you have made👏

  • @KC14109
    @KC14109 Год назад +4

    I love my Explorer ll white dial even with a 6" wrist. Very comfortable and I certainly don't think it's bulky at all. I certainly like the satin look on the bracelet as it hides any marks. I only waited 3 month's for mine which I was quite surprised with.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      The satin look on the bracelet is soooo good! 😍👏🏻 like butter!

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      WOOOW! Only 3 months wait! That is soo good! You’ve got a very good AD 👏🏻💕

    • @KC14109
      @KC14109 Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches It sure is.

    • @KC14109
      @KC14109 Год назад

      @watchgringa Yeah, I couldn't believe it when I got the call. Just waiting on a Batman now. Was told next year, but im happy to wait.

  • @mahmoudghoneim8004
    @mahmoudghoneim8004 Год назад +2

    Already got rhe 16750 polar and love it , if i had to have one Rolex only it would be the explorer 2 , what is stopping me to buy the new references is unfortunately the 42mm size .

  • @themightysquid
    @themightysquid Год назад +5

    I went to my AD a few years ago to see a 2000 Sub/Date, and tried on a 2000 Explorer2/Black (16570). It just melted onto my 6-5/8” wrist. I liked the fact that you didn’t see this one too often in the wild and it had a more slender profile, lighter feel, small crown, gmt hand, and the steel bezel gave it a tool, yet elegant look. I left the AD with the Explorer2.

  • @slashdotism
    @slashdotism Год назад +2

    My dad celebrated my 30th by buying himself a 116610ln and giving me his old daily, the 2007 16570 polar. Still my favorite watch to this day.

  • @AnotherDaveInParadise
    @AnotherDaveInParadise Год назад +4

    I'm 'on the list' for one at my AD. I think the main reason is definitely the size. If they'd gone back to 40mm at the last update there'd be a lot more demand.
    Last time I tried one on I was wearing my Speedy Pro, and this was noticeably larger due to the increased lug-to-lug. The relatively small thickness helps a lot though.
    Black over the polar dial, as it's less like a saucer on your wrist.

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 Год назад

      I'm not sure what it is about the 6 digit ExpII, they do wear larger than other 42mm watches. It looks and wears larger than the Speedy Pro.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      RIGHT?! I completely agree on the 40mm!! I like the fantasise for watches and wonders 2024, they will bring it back down to 40mm 🙈 but I don’t think it’ll happen!

    • @emc14000
      @emc14000 Год назад

      you can get the 16570 which wears like 40mm , more vintage plus a red rather than orange gmt hand, cool

    • @AnotherDaveInParadise
      @AnotherDaveInParadise Год назад

      @@emc14000I do like the 16570, and would definitely go with the polar with this model. However, a 2010/11 (with the text on the rehaut) is the one I’d want, and they’re expensive. Plus I prefer the orange GMT hand.

    • @AnotherDaveInParadise
      @AnotherDaveInParadise Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches Rolex, if you’re reading (of course they are), Explorer in 36 & 40 is done, so how about offering the Exp 2 in 39 and 42? Pretty please.

  • @kevindoesretired7048
    @kevindoesretired7048 Год назад +1

    Hi Britt my first Rolex (20+years ago) was one I didnt relly want. Ex wife talked me into a two tone GMT. Don't get me wrong it was a great watch just not what I went in for. I wanted a Stainless steel tool watch, back then it was the Sub. Then along came the Explorer2 Polar dial, Hot damn I had to have it, It was exactly what I wanted. Now being single I had no one buzzing in my ear telling me what I wanted. So on December 22 2022 I got the call only......wait for it.....4 months after putting my name on the list. 4 months! After being told it would take more than a year. Best Christmas gift to myself ever!
    Thanks for doing you, I enjoy your channel.
    Cheers Kevin

  • @mikelewis2456
    @mikelewis2456 Год назад +2

    I dislike the bezel and I think that’s what part of reason it’s unpopular 🤔Rolex has many more aesthetically attractive choices like GMTs and Subs or even Sea Dwellers

  • @carlotaboada924
    @carlotaboada924 9 месяцев назад

    I own the Polar EXP2, it was my 50th Bday gift to myself….absolutely love it!! I already have a couple black dial watches so the white dial EXP2 fit perfectly in my collection and has of course become my fav….cheers!!🎉

  • @RedwoodAggie
    @RedwoodAggie Год назад +3

    If you think the 1991 vintage hurts, try that being the year of high school graduation. 😩 On an Explorer II note, the 226570 being the 50h anniversary model means it comes from the same era I do, which was one small reason I went with one for my big birthday. It is my celebration only Rolex. Yes, I went with the bog model, though it seems dwarfed by the current Sea Dweller on my 7.25” wrist. I loved the SD, but just don’t think I would find it comfortable as a daily with that heft. Sized for my wrist, my Explorer II is 152 grams, which isn’t terrible. I have a 39.5mm Seiko Alpinist on Strapcode bracelet that is 140g. It definitely doesn’t disappear on the wrist, but I don’t need it to. I own other watches for that. The size definitely isn’t for everyone, but I think it would be silly if almost all Rolexes were around some “ideal” size for everyone. I love that my Rolex is not common and is the last full tool watch Rolex. I see Submariners very frequently, but I have only seen one other Explorer II out in public in over 4 years, which would have been a 216570. I do like the polar dial, but felt the black dial was more versatile and better as my only Rolex. I would own both if I could.
    I don’t know if the Explorer II is quite as unknown as they must have been back in the 1655 days. Look at how much those go for now! Not even in the attainable range for me, and I personally wouldn’t feel comfortable with a vintage watch worth so much on my wrist. One AD I spoke with said they sold maybe 5 in the previous year, and this is in a very large metro area. Definitely not a high volume watch. My AD expected mine to take at least a year to get, but it showed up in 5 months. My AD rep still tells me how cool he thinks it is that I got that over what everyone else gets. Another rep on site when I picked up mine had a black 16570 on and let me try it on and compare the two. I get why people like that size, and the owner wasn’t a big guy. He’s owned it for 22 years and said although it had never been serviced, it still kept great time. That kind of testament is one reason people are willing to pay for these watches. Anyway, thanks for listening to me ramble about this great watch, and thanks for giving it some rare attention in one of your down to earth videos.

  • @montanamckinney1462
    @montanamckinney1462 24 дня назад

    I’ve watched this a dozen times. Fellow Canadian here, but I am picking up my explorer 2 black dial tomorrow. No wait, I’ve bought a ranger and a bb41 in the last year and was offered the explorer the same day I asked for one. Truly the last tool watch.

  • @fahadkhan-db6bh
    @fahadkhan-db6bh Год назад +2

    I love this too, but I’ve never understood weather it is because it’s not so popular or because it’s very good in itsef

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +1

      Right?! It’s actually a lot of watch! It kinda feels un-Rolex and SOOO ROLEX all at the same time!

    • @fahadkhan-db6bh
      @fahadkhan-db6bh Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches Absolutely, very well put. It would however be more compelling in the 40mm case with the latest movement and the latest GMT hand (can’t do this without a gripe or two, sorry 😂)

  • @AntonioDeAngelis-x5n
    @AntonioDeAngelis-x5n Год назад

    Britt,
    I have never watched your videos before but the subject matter just drew me to you video. I am a huge Explorer fan, both in the original and the Explorer II. I have a five digit 2004 Explorer and a 40mm polar dial Explorer II and I love them both. They are both completely different watches but have the same genetic code. I will never trade either of these watches! You are right, the Explorer II is undervalued. It is the perfect example of Rolex' heritage as a tool watch in the whole current lineup. My opinion though is that Rolex made a huge mistake, bumping the Ex.II up to 42 mm. I have a 7 3/4" wrist and the 40 mm is still really the perfect size. Thanks for the great video and I've added you to my subscription list!

  • @engjoo
    @engjoo Год назад +6

    It will be perfect at 40mm.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      RIGHT?! I do agree! You’ll have to look into the neo vintage offerings!

  • @briankenny6883
    @briankenny6883 2 месяца назад

    Britt,…great review. Spot on. Two quick notes: 1) I think the Rolex Explorer II is a future classic. 2) My AD called,…and mine is in! Fortunately, I have an 8”/20cm wrist so the “awkward” sizing is not an issue. All the best!

  • @bobinmo251
    @bobinmo251 Год назад +3

    Can't wait for the next video when your husband magically has an 8-inch wrist! 😂

    • @watchpapi
      @watchpapi Год назад +1

      🤷🏻🤣🤣

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +1

      🤣🤣 RIGHT?!! This time next year “here it is on my husbands 13 inch wrist”

    • @watchpapi
      @watchpapi Год назад

      @@BrittPearceWatches I’m a growing lad!

  • @Watchthekettle
    @Watchthekettle Год назад +1

    Since I got my sub no date 124060 my explorer II black dial has gotten less wrist time….. both struggle to have a place in my collection.

  • @zandergourley6089
    @zandergourley6089 Год назад +3

    I really like the Black Dial over the white, after having the 124270, I plan on purchasing one of these next.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад

      RIGHT?! I’m glad to find a fellow black-dial-lover! You have to let me know when this next purchase comes!

  • @mohamedel-majzoub8946
    @mohamedel-majzoub8946 Год назад +2

    Hey, love the topic and your reasoning behind the selection of the topic. I’ve searched the grey market for weeks to get the white dial one towards September last year(where the grey market was stacked with subs and daytonas) I adore the Rolex story behind the watch and your first reason is exactly why I wanted this particular watch, it goes under the radar and I adore the esthetics of this particular model.

  • @dannyg6592
    @dannyg6592 Год назад +2

    No apologies ever needed for Rolex content, Britt :) I'd like a polar dial 16570, but the current model wears very large (larger than its stated dimensions) and does not interest me. Cheers!

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 Год назад

      I'm also on the hunt for a 16570 Polar, I have tried both the 216570 and 226570 white and black dials, they somehow wear larger than other 42mm watches I've tried.

  • @robertbachmann8141
    @robertbachmann8141 Год назад +1

    The black dial explorer 2 goes for less than retail price now. If your AD doesn’t have one, you can pick up a new one right away from a secondary watch dealer for less than list price.

  • @danielmeier8321
    @danielmeier8321 Год назад +26

    Because they are too bulky. Theres no need for them to be 42mm. They should be at 39 or 40mm max.

    • @BrittPearceWatches
      @BrittPearceWatches  Год назад +6

      I so agree!

    • @luismartinez3016
      @luismartinez3016 Год назад +1

      That's why the bbpro is perfect (maybe a mm or 2 too thick lol) but yeah perfect

    • @seanp7871
      @seanp7871 Год назад +6

      42mm sports watch too bulky 😂

    • @danielmeier8321
      @danielmeier8321 Год назад

      @@luismartinez3016 i tried the black bay pro. Despite what everyones saying, the height kills the watch. Its the case where as soon as tudor produces a slimmer gmt movement, the black bay pro would fly out of my watch box because id ditch it for the "black bay pro mk II" I guess within the next 2 or 3 years, tudor will be able to produce such a movement.

    • @danielmeier8321
      @danielmeier8321 Год назад +1

      @@seanp7871 yeah you know, nobody ever could tell me why its logical that a so called "sports watch" is heavy and bulky as they sometimes are nowadays. Maybe you need compensation for a small wiener though.

  • @cpayne6
    @cpayne6 Год назад +1

    Can’t wait for more updates on the hubby’s wrist growth! 😂😂
    I wanted this watch with a black dial for years. A friend who is all about collecting the “collectibles” convinced me to waitlist for a white dial. A black dial actually popped up at the AD and I didn’t hesitate. No regrets and so happy I went with what I originally wanted. So easy to get sucked in to the “this is the watch you SHOULD get!”

    • @watchpapi
      @watchpapi Год назад +2

      I’m training hard and should blast past 7” pretty quickly.

    • @cpayne6
      @cpayne6 Год назад +1

      @@watchpapi 😂😂👍👍
      Rooting for ya! 🙏🙏

  • @SBDC195
    @SBDC195 Год назад +5

    Too big. 😆

  • @darellhunter2205
    @darellhunter2205 Год назад +1

    I really enjoy my white dial Explorer II. To your point, I love how under stated it is. It's my one Rolex that doesn't look like one and that is perfect.

  • @chesterlott2557
    @chesterlott2557 3 месяца назад +2

    Had one for 6 months now and I love it. Sold my Datejust 41.

  • @ektrolleyboy
    @ektrolleyboy Год назад +1

    Picked one up on 1.1.23 (white dial). Sold it three months later. Regret it a lot now!
    Don’t regret selling my datejusts. Air Kings. Or any of my Sub’s. But I do regret selling my Z-Blue Milgauss and my “Polar” Explorer 2.

  • @willgic3964
    @willgic3964 Год назад +1

    On my 5th explorer 2 in 20 years. Great video. Thanks

  • @mr_watchaddict3146
    @mr_watchaddict3146 Год назад

    Amen BP!!! I love mine for all the reasons you outlined so well. I feel this and the Explorer 36mm are the least 'embarrassing' to wear of their lineup. I hope you're both feeling fabulous! 😘

  • @alecjr
    @alecjr Год назад +1

    I love my Rolex Explorer II Polar and it's my fav of all my watches (have several rolex models) I keep the GMT hand on the local hour and then the watch can be used asa compass, which I have done many times. and Yes, I have also taken it Spelunking and once north of the arctic circle during the summer solstice.

  • @edwintreffers
    @edwintreffers Год назад +1

    I hope I don’t offend anyone but I just don’t like the explorer… 😬
    Last week I bought my first Rolex from an AD. I got the Submariner two tone and that is much more my style.
    But…. I can absolutely understand that the explorer is THE Rolex for someone else. Buy and wear what you like 🤩

  • @chiguyxi8992
    @chiguyxi8992 Год назад +1

    I have the current model of the explorer II (polar) but lusting for the 16570 in black! As you said, vintage size is perfect. Thanks for a great video 😀

  • @ianbrock9430
    @ianbrock9430 Год назад +1

    I bought "White" Explorer 2 in 2016. I loved the watch, and had "lusted" after it for a couple of years. I sold it in 2021 after I gave it to my local (Glasgow, Scotland, UK) AD for a normal service. The AD was not very professional. The watch was with Rolex for over 7 months, The AD could give me no indication of how long I would have to wait. There was no feedback from them!!!!
    I bought another watch ( a Tudor) to try and have a reasonable "timepiece" while I waited!!!
    When my Rolex eventually returned, There was no reaction from the AD, nor any apology for the lack of communication or poor customer service. I certainly was not impressed with the Rolex AD system.
    Further more, the "correct time" had to be regulated every 10 days or so. Not what I expected from a Rolex Watch.
    I sold the watch, and bought another (less expensive) make.
    It (the Explorer " )was a lovely looking watch. But NOT a good time keeper. Who needs that? at that price?

  • @chulkcha
    @chulkcha Год назад +1

    When i went into AR to check the Exp II out, i had my mine set on the white dial however after putting the black on my wrist, the black looked much more nicer then the white. The black glossy dial makes the watch shine so well.
    I have this and have to admit, i was totally wrong about it until you hold it in your hand b

  • @3000waterman
    @3000waterman Год назад

    Great commentary, and some subtle added nipple interest. That's clever.
    Year 2000 40mm Black dial Explorer 2 owner here. It's perfect. Worn pretty-much every day for 23 years. Bought in preference to a Sub because the Sub has spawned SO many copies from China, and just as many wannabe 'homage' versions by other makers. The lug-to-lug of the Expl. 2 is quite modest, too. I'd like it even more in a 38mm size.

  • @MathiasKaiser81
    @MathiasKaiser81 Год назад +1

    I bought the black Explorer II about 3 months ago and i love it.
    I’ll never sell it or trade it.❤

  • @keith6371
    @keith6371 5 месяцев назад +1

    I am an actual scuba diver, do a fair amount of cave and wreck diving, which is why I couldn’t bring myself to buy a sub. First, diving environment is so harsh I have seen a fair amount of omega, Paneria , and Rolex dive watches develop leaks (the depth is brutal on the seal), and once sea water goes into watches at depth, it is a goner. And always, divers who won them were newbies. Second, every one dives with a dive computer except again, newbies, I have never seen anyone experienced dive with a table. So a dive watch is useless in an actual dive environment. To me, sub just tells me someone is faking to be a diver. Now I guess one can make the same argument about other tool watches like GMT or Speedmaster or Daytona, but I have actually seen a fair amount of pilots wear GMT and such.